all due respect, but Vienna did horrendous in this performance, so many mistakes I can point out, just one of them being that "the persons are 'relatively' distinct" While the actual belief of Thomists was that They're really distinct. I can't watch the whole thing without cringing, hope you'll change.
Unsure if this is a troll comment but relatively distinct is what they believe verbatim. It’s distinction in what they relate to, i.e. their esse-ad. It’s a real relative distinction, you have no idea what you’re talking about, and you’re the one that made the blunder here.
@@fivii5790 this is what I hate with youtube comment theologians, they're clueless yet opinionated more than they should have Give me an example where St Thomas Aquinas said the relations of the persons in the Trinity are relatively distinct. You can't, he made entire chapters about relation of the persons yet all of them are "really distinct, real distinction" Real relative distinction (if by that distinct in relation but is really distinct in reality) isn't akin to relatively distinct
@@berserk189 Firstly, there’s no such thing as “Muslim Philosophy”…it’s ISLAMIC philosophy you donut. Secondly, if it wasn’t for our philosophers, your religion would still be in the dark ages. Aquinas & co. are just Temu versions of Ibn Sina, Ibn Rushd, Al Ghazali etc.
Just equivocating on reality lol, one is reality simpliciter the other is secundum quid so it’s not in the same respect thus not contradiction (per metaphysicæ 1005b19)
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all due respect, but Vienna did horrendous in this performance, so many mistakes I can point out, just one of them being that "the persons are 'relatively' distinct"
While the actual belief of Thomists was that They're really distinct.
I can't watch the whole thing without cringing, hope you'll change.
Didn't the guy say he didn't hold to the Thomast model of the Trinity? Actual question...
@@Najmo-dd7jl Scotists also hold to a real distinction between the formal realities of the essence.
Unsure if this is a troll comment but relatively distinct is what they believe verbatim. It’s distinction in what they relate to, i.e. their esse-ad. It’s a real relative distinction, you have no idea what you’re talking about, and you’re the one that made the blunder here.
@@fivii5790 this is what I hate with youtube comment theologians, they're clueless yet opinionated more than they should have
Give me an example where St Thomas Aquinas said the relations of the persons in the Trinity are relatively distinct. You can't, he made entire chapters about relation of the persons yet all of them are "really distinct, real distinction"
Real relative distinction (if by that distinct in relation but is really distinct in reality) isn't akin to relatively distinct
There is a reason why muslim philosophy is dead
@@berserk189 Firstly, there’s no such thing as “Muslim Philosophy”…it’s ISLAMIC philosophy you donut. Secondly, if it wasn’t for our philosophers, your religion would still be in the dark ages. Aquinas & co. are just Temu versions of Ibn Sina, Ibn Rushd, Al Ghazali etc.
@@TheChristianCope The muslim cope
@@TheChristianCopeIbn Sina is a kaffir according to salafis, rushd and ghazali are asharis.
An interesting debate. But this will never end no one will agree but that’s the nature of apologetics
muhammadan lost so much that he started taking about IQ
Crosslicker, your boy lost.
He lost.
Get over it.
@@TheChristianCopepedo follower, doesn’t know what a non sequitur it 🤣🫵🏼
@@TheChristianCope Stonekisser u lost U LOST now go kiss the stone and pray for the greatest PDFile to ever exist allhamdulalalalalalallalalalalala
@@TheChristianCope stone kisser, has the black stone erased your sins yet? maybe it forgot to because it doesn't have a brain to remember anything.
@@TheChristianCopeWhy do you say that?
Bro already craping at 2:55
MashaAllah I found a gem.
is vienna a muslim living in the vatican??
@@Zack_berret Muslim, Yes. Living in the Vatican, no lol (not that I know of anyway).
@ thanks for your input brother 🌹
how did you record this? Its different
On my 📱.
Oh. never seen tiktok horizontal like that. Its not an android emulator right?
@ Recorded it portrait, cut the chat and main panel in half, put the main screen on the left & chat on the right. W CapCut.
@@TheChristianCope jazakAllahu khayr❤️
@@akum4501 wa iyyak 🖤🤍
whats this about
R u muslim
Argument vs the trinity (specifically a Thomistic/ADS model). Vienna lays out his argument at 02:35
Just equivocating on reality lol, one is reality simpliciter the other is secundum quid so it’s not in the same respect thus not contradiction (per metaphysicæ 1005b19)