My initial reaction was the same as this is a different approach to what I would use & teach through my brigade policy and procedure. However, on re watching I believe that the crew have correctly risk assessed the conditions Inside the compartment and this is a safe door assessment. Both team members are safety behind the door when they make the call to initially crack open the door. Having assessed the conditions and observing there being no high velocity fire gases exiting at a low level. The BA crew have made the call that it is safe to open the door fully to make a more in-depth assessment of conditions inside the compartment. I can only assume that I f the initial assessment upon opening initial opening of the door found dense fire gases exiting at a low level then the approach would be different utilising the door for protection whilst applying gas cooling until the compartment was safe to enter.
Very different to how we do it. The personal search wass entertaining though! I always do a gage check before every door, just to keep in the habit and be sure we have enough air before committing to opening the door to a new compartment. In low visibility No.1 describes if the hinges are left, or right and whether the door opens away or towards. No.2 positions themself accordingly and prepares to control the door. No.1, when he's ready, will call "crack." No.2 cracks the door about 10-12 inches. No.1 will send a 30 degree pulse up into any gas layer, then listens and gets low to hear if it comes back or is instantly evaporated as an indicator of what conditions are like. If conditions are relatively cool, the team then make entry immediately firing a wide pulse above just to make sure gasses are cooled and continues the search OR if conditions are hot, they may elect to fight the fire from the doorway. Any snags and No.1 wil call "close," No.2 closes the door, and they reset or rethink. Everyone has their personal preferences, tweaks, special situations etc. but that's how I was taught.
i hope these guys are recruits,even so that is real flame and yeah they opend door way to wide,number one is in completly the wrong spot...very clumsy thank god i was trained by NZFS
Positioning all wrong. Number 1 should be gas cooling (short sharp pluses) under number 2s arm. No ticker thermostatic used. You could be opening the door to a flashover or backdraft. We get trained to a high standard
Think about the money that is spent by a town fighting fires. The time it takes to get doors open to rescue victims and get interior fires extinguished. The increased costs to insurance companies for all the extra damage that wasted time can cause. The cost of fixing the front door when it is only needed for entry when the fire could be in the garage or other remote location. All commercial buildings have Knox Box by the entry doors. The fire department has a key to that box and the building entry key is inside it. Put a Knox Box at the front door of every residential structure. The town, the insurance companies and the homeowner could all chip in, and entry could take just seconds and with no damage.
@Tony Each Brigade adopt their own door procedure. I've been on several courses, BAI included, and everyone on the course adopted their own procedure when opening the door. Doesn't mean it's poor, just best practice for that Brigade. We can pick holes in every one, but as long as the crew comes back at the end of the job, who cares.
asking for a backdraft in the face. shouldn't you use door as cover, open slightly, use quick fire spray to cool room first?
Maud Wagner Couldn't agree any more
My initial reaction was the same as this is a different approach to what I would use & teach through my brigade policy and procedure.
However, on re watching I believe that the crew have correctly risk assessed the conditions Inside the compartment and this is a safe door assessment.
Both team members are safety behind the door when they make the call to initially crack open the door.
Having assessed the conditions and observing there being no high velocity fire gases exiting at a low level. The BA crew have made the call that it is safe to open the door fully to make a more in-depth assessment of conditions inside the compartment.
I can only assume that I f the initial assessment upon opening initial opening of the door found dense fire gases exiting at a low level then the approach would be different utilising the door for protection whilst applying gas cooling until the compartment was safe to enter.
No 2 in control of the door. No 1 in charge of the branch. Open, short pulse into the ceiling, close door
Very different to how we do it.
The personal search wass entertaining though!
I always do a gage check before every door, just to keep in the habit and be sure we have enough air before committing to opening the door to a new compartment.
In low visibility No.1 describes if the hinges are left, or right and whether the door opens away or towards.
No.2 positions themself accordingly and prepares to control the door.
No.1, when he's ready, will call "crack."
No.2 cracks the door about 10-12 inches.
No.1 will send a 30 degree pulse up into any gas layer, then listens and gets low to hear if it comes back or is instantly evaporated as an indicator of what conditions are like.
If conditions are relatively cool, the team then make entry immediately firing a wide pulse above just to make sure gasses are cooled and continues the search OR if conditions are hot, they may elect to fight the fire from the doorway.
Any snags and No.1 wil call "close," No.2 closes the door, and they reset or rethink.
Everyone has their personal preferences, tweaks, special situations etc. but that's how I was taught.
Why are you using a booster line
That door was open for way to long at first and they should’ve used the back of their hands to check how hot it is.
Surely the water turning into steam is a good indication of the door temp?
Steve Dineley it isn’t. It shows it’s still way too hot
Doubt the heat would be detected through PPE. Visual paint of door far more effective along with use of thermal camera
Why they are using the hose reel😅???
Dangerous moves there, that was suicidal move
what's with doing the twist and shout approaching the door.
Its a training video and they were simulating moving in complete darkness for the video.
What is that oompa loompa dence they did before entry?
i hope these guys are recruits,even so that is real flame and yeah they opend door way to wide,number one is in completly the wrong spot...very clumsy thank god i was trained by NZFS
No they are instructors. Each Brigade adopt their own procedures. Your NZ procedures may look clumsy and raise a few eyebrows too matey.
Positioning all wrong.
Number 1 should be gas cooling (short sharp pluses) under number 2s arm.
No ticker thermostatic used. You could be opening the door to a flashover or backdraft.
We get trained to a high standard
Think about the money that is spent by a town fighting fires. The time it takes to get doors open to rescue victims and get interior fires extinguished. The increased costs to insurance companies for all the extra damage that wasted time can cause. The cost of fixing the front door when it is only needed for entry when the fire could be in the garage or other remote location.
All commercial buildings have Knox Box by the entry doors. The fire department has a key to that box and the building entry key is inside it. Put a Knox Box at the front door of every residential structure. The town, the insurance companies and the homeowner could all chip in, and entry could take just seconds and with no damage.
they've not used the door as cover at all
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Back draft
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I agree also..poor door procedure
@Tony
Each Brigade adopt their own door procedure. I've been on several courses, BAI included, and everyone on the course adopted their own procedure when opening the door. Doesn't mean it's poor, just best practice for that Brigade. We can pick holes in every one, but as long as the crew comes back at the end of the job, who cares.
wirk
No no no!!
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