To be honest, I liked the spinner belts not because it was great design, but because it fit John Cena's Doctor of Thuganomics gimmick. When Cena transitioned out of the Doctor of Thuganomics gimmick, that is when the spinner belt just didn't make sense anymore, and they should have reverted back to the original design, as well as they should have reverted back to the original design when someone else won the belt kept the spinner belt exclusively for the Doctor of Thuganomics gimmick.
Agreed. The spinner belt became less synonymous with the “Dr. of Thuganomics” and more synonymous with John Cena himself. Changing the belt or keeping the spinner design close to him probably would’ve helped
This has always been my argument and part of the reason I think resentment grew for Cena. Even when he wasn't champ, it was still 'his' belt. Imagine if while Austin was hurt in 2000, Rock and HHH would have fought over the Smoking Skull belt.
The heat for that Magnum-Nikita feud in 1986 was incredible. Both came out of their best-of-7 series that summer looking like stars. And, of course, Dusty used that to his advantage after Magnum's accident when he turned Nikita face. One of my core wrestling memories as a kid.
In early 1986 I saw Magnum T.A. vs Tully Blanchard at a house show at my high school. Tully pulled down Magnum's shorts and every woman there....had a moment. And maybe got the seats wet. Good times.
Will be making a thread for all the champion timestamps just ‘cause ❤ (also Wrestletalk, I love y’all’s content so much) 0:20 AJ Styles 1:34 Alberto del Rio 1:51 Andrade 2:18 (Antonio) Cesaro 2:39 Apollo Crews 3:19 Austin Theory 3:34 Baron Corbin 3:40 Barry Windham 3:57 Big Show 4:08 (Big Van) Vader 4:50 Blackjack Mulligan 5:11 Bobby Lashley 5:30 Bobby Roode 5:37 Bobo Brazil 5:40 Booker T 5:46 Bret Hart 6:26 Carlito 6:32 Chris Benoit 6:59 Chris Jericho 7:07 Chris Kanyon 7:15
Fun fact: The person above me actually did NOT make the mistake of putting the word "really" in place of "real" but rather has a form of dyslexia that swaps whole words in place of one another.. So.. fun fact: Oli's real name is Oliver Davis Malenko. ❌ *fun fact: Oli's name really is Oliver Davis Malenko. ✅ Thank you this has been my Ted Talk feel free to toss your change in my empty 7/11 "BIG CHUG" cup there in front of my shopping cart. Please do not touch my priceless collection of pigeon feed that I keep in loose plastic Dollar Tree bags. Xenu bless you...
So fun fact about One Man Gang taking the belt of Sasaki. The reason they had to do it that way, is because Sasaki was a New Japan guy they put the belt on during their working relationship, but Sasaki wouldn't drop the belt. So they did a screwy finish that they would air on TV where OMG beat him but reastart the match so Sasaki believed he retained but then they took the title off him. Only in WCW 😂
I think R Truths US title in 2019 was won via a botched finish. I think Nakamura didn't kick out properly during a roll-up and the ref just counted three
@@codyssmith73 I think Nakamura might be a genuine shout for the worst IC champion of all time for exactly this reason. He held it forever and didn't do a single thing with it for well over 100 days and then lost it on Smackdown to Braun Strowman.
I’m just shy of 60 and I remember . My first ever favorite wrestlers were Bobo and Ivan Putski and first most hated heel was probably Baron Mikel Sicluna lol
Fun fact, the house show where AJ beat Owen’s for the title was my first live event 😅 I was surprised cuz I assumed nothing notable ever happened off TV
You guys really need to rewatch Lugers 87-91 run in WCW. Guy was in so many awesome matches. Luger/Pillman feud over the us title is awesome. As was his steamboat feud
6:51 hold on, did Benoit and Booker T do a best-of-7 in WWE for the US title?? Because they did a best of 7 in WCW for the Television title as well and that's what I remember.
Well, Booker got injured during Match 4, and the rest of the series was finished by Randy Orton. Orton won the title for the injured Booker, and then Booker lost it at the next PPV to Benoit anyways.
One reason the US title got stripped and vacated so many times in the NWA/WCW days was that the US Champ was (in kayfabe) considered the number one contender for the World Title. They often used it to either propel someone into the main event, or to give a main eventer something to do while they weren't world champion. That being the case, they often didn't want to beat the US Champ, to keep him strong for his eventual shot at the World Title. So they would be stripped of the title due to shenanigans, or vacate it when they won the bigger belt. Or, in some cases, got head-hunted by McMahon. And yet, the title somehow maintained its prestige because they always treated it like a prize worth having.
*I was always confused why when you get a sample of paint to check our the color do they give you so much? I always said you can just use the sample instead of buying some. People would ask what could you paint with that tiny amount? Now I can reply, the missing blue piece of the stripe behind oli davis*
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Major ptsd from Wrestlemainia 35 lol my kid had me buy a Mysterio mask for him. He wore it the whole weekend... and then Joe lmao.. then we were stuck in a tunnel in a cold downpour for hours after the final 1 day Mania. 11 f@#*ing hours
This was really good the United States championship was always one of WWE top championship to win it before moving on to the WWE or world heavyweight championship title picture, it’s just to bad with Logan Paul holding it at the moment the championship isn’t being looked at significantly or being defended.
When it was just oil on the channel I didn’t notice he was yelling in his early videos but when Laurie came on i remember thinking “why is this guy whispering half his jokes?”
I'm going to die on this hill... Kevin Owens was supposed to win that match. The evidence of my theory is KOs music hits and a gfx comes up immediately after the match.
While funny, I disagree with Luke on the term @grand slam champion. At least in modern terms, in WWE you have to win a world title, both mid-card title’s, and the tag titles on either Raw/Smackdown, or NXT. Pretty impressive to me!
It may not have had anything to do with his reign…but when using three words to describe anything about Kalisto it really should just be “good lucha thing.”
I was there when Bret beat Miz in Toronto. I know it's a dumb booking decision, but I'd be a liar if i told you it wasn't awesome seeing Bret win a belt in Canada.
Spinner WWE Championship is definitely not the WORST DESIGN of a championship belt. I mean I think that honor goes to the belt that is literally shaped like America. Now THAT is an awful design.
Best way to finish a 12 hour shift at work is watching a 3count
Best way to kill half hour on a 12 hours shift is watching a 3 count
Boss makes a quarter I make a dime so I watch wrestletalk on company time
Facts! This is also me!
Bro im literally watching this on my Sunday shift 😭 granted it’s only 6 hours but granted it’s still Sunday 😭 😭
Wtf I’ve just finished a 12hr nightshift 😂
The best part is Oli counting “Grand Slam Champ” on his fingers to make sure it was three words.
To be honest, I liked the spinner belts not because it was great design, but because it fit John Cena's Doctor of Thuganomics gimmick. When Cena transitioned out of the Doctor of Thuganomics gimmick, that is when the spinner belt just didn't make sense anymore, and they should have reverted back to the original design, as well as they should have reverted back to the original design when someone else won the belt kept the spinner belt exclusively for the Doctor of Thuganomics gimmick.
Agreed. The spinner belt became less synonymous with the “Dr. of Thuganomics” and more synonymous with John Cena himself. Changing the belt or keeping the spinner design close to him probably would’ve helped
This has always been my argument and part of the reason I think resentment grew for Cena. Even when he wasn't champ, it was still 'his' belt. Imagine if while Austin was hurt in 2000, Rock and HHH would have fought over the Smoking Skull belt.
0:47
You can already tell, that's the LAST THING Oli expected 😂
Luke pulling out the phone 📱🤣
Man came with receipts 🤣
That Mr Wrestling story is genuinely insane.
Rvy
The heat for that Magnum-Nikita feud in 1986 was incredible. Both came out of their best-of-7 series that summer looking like stars. And, of course, Dusty used that to his advantage after Magnum's accident when he turned Nikita face. One of my core wrestling memories as a kid.
In early 1986 I saw Magnum T.A. vs Tully Blanchard at a house show at my high school. Tully pulled down Magnum's shorts and every woman there....had a moment. And maybe got the seats wet. Good times.
Will be making a thread for all the champion timestamps just ‘cause ❤ (also Wrestletalk, I love y’all’s content so much)
0:20 AJ Styles
1:34 Alberto del Rio
1:51 Andrade
2:18 (Antonio) Cesaro
2:39 Apollo Crews
3:19 Austin Theory
3:34 Baron Corbin
3:40 Barry Windham
3:57 Big Show
4:08 (Big Van) Vader
4:50 Blackjack Mulligan
5:11 Bobby Lashley
5:30 Bobby Roode
5:37 Bobo Brazil
5:40 Booker T
5:46 Bret Hart
6:26 Carlito
6:32 Chris Benoit
6:59 Chris Jericho
7:07 Chris Kanyon
7:15
You Rock. Thank you!
Except she didnt finish it.@TCMYSTIKAL2010
fun fact: Oli's real name is Oliver Davis Malenko
Fun fact: The person above me actually did NOT make the mistake of putting the word "really" in place of "real" but rather has a form of dyslexia that swaps whole words in place of one another..
So..
fun fact: Oli's real name is Oliver Davis Malenko. ❌
*fun fact: Oli's name really is Oliver Davis Malenko. ✅
Thank you this has been my Ted Talk feel free to toss your change in my empty 7/11 "BIG CHUG" cup there in front of my shopping cart. Please do not touch my priceless collection of pigeon feed that I keep in loose plastic Dollar Tree bags. Xenu bless you...
@@cody1390amigo what
So fun fact about One Man Gang taking the belt of Sasaki. The reason they had to do it that way, is because Sasaki was a New Japan guy they put the belt on during their working relationship, but Sasaki wouldn't drop the belt. So they did a screwy finish that they would air on TV where OMG beat him but reastart the match so Sasaki believed he retained but then they took the title off him. Only in WCW 😂
11:43 Thank you for bringing up the parking lot brawl. That was the match that really got me into wrestling.
I think R Truths US title in 2019 was won via a botched finish. I think Nakamura didn't kick out properly during a roll-up and the ref just counted three
Honestly Truth winning it actually gave it meaning for a little while. Shinsuke had this odd thing where any time he won a belt he hardly defended it.
@@codyssmith73 I think Nakamura might be a genuine shout for the worst IC champion of all time for exactly this reason. He held it forever and didn't do a single thing with it for well over 100 days and then lost it on Smackdown to Braun Strowman.
I was waiting for Mr. Vacated to get his 3 words "Most title reigns"
You know you are old if you remember watching Bobo Brazil on the Saturday morning UHF-TV wrestling shows (I'm 71).
I’m just shy of 60 and I remember . My first ever favorite wrestlers were Bobo and Ivan Putski and first most hated heel was probably Baron Mikel Sicluna lol
The fact there was so many title strips that oli could undo all his buttons is hilarious
29:41 Fun fact about Dave Sullivan, he was the athletic director and football coach at my college before it closed in 2010.
Fun fact, the house show where AJ beat Owen’s for the title was my first live event 😅 I was surprised cuz I assumed nothing notable ever happened off TV
1:02 yall better put in the description for that video
AJ Styles vs Kevin Owens Botched Finish
Y'all forgot Cena was also stripped of the title back in '04
Drop a button this instant Ollie !
Stipped....in winnipeg
Cena ass
You guys really need to rewatch Lugers 87-91 run in WCW. Guy was in so many awesome matches. Luger/Pillman feud over the us title is awesome. As was his steamboat feud
If i remember correctly, R-Truth accidently won it from Nakamura. Nakamura was suppose to kick out and didnt for some reason
When we talk about Us title reigns,John Cena is always a top and the very best holding that title.
6:51 hold on, did Benoit and Booker T do a best-of-7 in WWE for the US title?? Because they did a best of 7 in WCW for the Television title as well and that's what I remember.
Yup
Correct
Well, Booker got injured during Match 4, and the rest of the series was finished by Randy Orton. Orton won the title for the injured Booker, and then Booker lost it at the next PPV to Benoit anyways.
I don't know if anyone has mentioned it, but the picture used for Mr. Wrestling is actually Mr. Wrestling II. Mr. Wrestling I had an all white mask.
(Looks at calendar) alright where is my Survival Series?!
I like the show. I fear they are going to run out of belts and ppv's to list.
Oli seems too eager to take his shirt off 😂😂😂😂
This is my favorite series you guys have now!
Who knew Logan Paul would literally be an absolute natural.... I am beyond shocked how quickly he became good. It takes others years and years.
Good way to start my birthday morning 🎉🥳
Happy birthday fellow wrestling fan
Happy birthday dude 🎂🤝🏽🥳
Happy birthday my guy
Happy birthday, my fellow wrestling fan and Gemini ♊️ !
Happy birthday mate
Lex Luger: Oww, ooh, arr!
24:49 And it wasn’t just any PPV, it was at the end of Starrcade 95!
The spinner is not the worst design title
The first time I ever had someone hear „WCW 2000 had something of an upswing“ 🤔
I mean...... It was different, sorta. The tv ratings were still good. Just no one went to the shows.
@@robcressey7228 tf are you smoking?
Sure, Logan proved everyone wrong with his in-ring ability. But 2 title defences in 210 days is disgusting 😅
One reason the US title got stripped and vacated so many times in the NWA/WCW days was that the US Champ was (in kayfabe) considered the number one contender for the World Title. They often used it to either propel someone into the main event, or to give a main eventer something to do while they weren't world champion. That being the case, they often didn't want to beat the US Champ, to keep him strong for his eventual shot at the World Title. So they would be stripped of the title due to shenanigans, or vacate it when they won the bigger belt. Or, in some cases, got head-hunted by McMahon. And yet, the title somehow maintained its prestige because they always treated it like a prize worth having.
*I was always confused why when you get a sample of paint to check our the color do they give you so much? I always said you can just use the sample instead of buying some. People would ask what could you paint with that tiny amount? Now I can reply, the missing blue piece of the stripe behind oli davis*
17:58
I was a kid at the time,
And I loved John Cena.
I’m 21 now
Apollo was actually the first champ with the new design. He had it for like 2 month with that design actually
Dang, that Ye Olden Wrestletalk bit. I was here for that.
Agreed Oli about "JBL's actual level"
Luke channeling his Barry Burton with that One Man Gang reaction.
When you guys do these amazing lists I know it’s more editing but it would be really helpful when u have the year at minimum that they won it if u can
24:04 isn't that because Sasaki refused to drop the belt, so they did that to get the belt off him without him realising it?
"we all hated Cena"
I still do.
Am I going insane or is Logan Paul not talked about in the video?
Always love these list 😅
I never get bored of hearing old ollie presenting the news 😂😂
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27:13 Wrong Cena is a 5 time U.S. Champ. Cena was only recognized as the winning the most U.S. titles in WWE. Flair has the overall record.
Hey Luke, regarding the Chris Benoit/Booker T best of 7 you referenced, that was actually for the WCW Television Title, not the US Heavyweight Title
They had another best of seven in WWE In 2005 for the vacant US title.
@@LubbockBabesFan ahhh, thx, I didn’t know that, wasn’t following wrestling as much at that time.
27:19 there is no way that this was not intentional for Rick Rude
Thank you for including Chris Benoit. What he did was terrible and unforgivable but it will never change his impact on wrestling.
Major ptsd from Wrestlemainia 35 lol my kid had me buy a Mysterio mask for him. He wore it the whole weekend... and then Joe lmao.. then we were stuck in a tunnel in a cold downpour for hours after the final 1 day Mania. 11 f@#*ing hours
1:36 this isnt true? Right or am i misremembering things? Seth is the one who ended cenas us open title reign?
Nope. Del Rio did at the ppv where Taker and Brock fought again.
This was really good the United States championship was always one of WWE top championship to win it before moving on to the WWE or world heavyweight championship title picture, it’s just to bad with Logan Paul holding it at the moment the championship isn’t being looked at significantly or being defended.
Oli was really andy datson back in the day i never realized 🤣🤣🤣
Fun fact: Around the time Bret Hart won the US title and came back to WWE, he was wrestling in some house shows.
I could have sworn the title design changed when Apollo was champ, I'm pretty sure it did
When it was just oil on the channel I didn’t notice he was yelling in his early videos but when Laurie came on i remember thinking “why is this guy whispering half his jokes?”
I think we’ve seen Oli’s villain origin story.
Review every tag team champion (as a tag team/example: usos, hardy boyz) in three words or less
I'm going to die on this hill... Kevin Owens was supposed to win that match.
The evidence of my theory is KOs music hits and a gfx comes up immediately after the match.
While funny, I disagree with Luke on the term @grand slam champion. At least in modern terms, in WWE you have to win a world title, both mid-card title’s, and the tag titles on either Raw/Smackdown, or NXT. Pretty impressive to me!
I feel like Oli and Luke have two entirely different ideas on how you use the three words
Math>Pipe bomb
Konnan: Viva La Raza! He was my favorite wrestler when I first got into wrestling as a kid. Wolfpac 4 life!
Imagine defining John Cena as US Champion as "Ruined everything forever"😐
Literally the Greatest US Champion of all time
Lex Luger disagree
Baron Corbin also won the NXT Tag Team Championship. The US Championship is not his only title reign.
I love when you do these type of videos. But I wish you would do them in chronological order instead of alphabetical order.
Rusev gave the keys to the tank to Damian priest now
It may not have had anything to do with his reign…but when using three words to describe anything about Kalisto it really should just be “good lucha thing.”
I remember more people holding that title from the 2000’s
Math>Pipebomb
Lol I remember those days. Ollie being so frustratingly loud.
I was around 10 when the spinner belt came out so I loved it but when I got older I started hating it.
I’ll always pop for OG Ollie hairline!
Should’ve been on 4 of July
I think it's fair to say that Logan's US title reign is SO much better than any of us has expected and so much better than it has any right to be.
im surprised the Jericho one wasnt, "catalyst to AEW" AEW is 1 word, Pete, we confirm this is 1 word, yes? Cool.
Ollie is completely right with Danielson yes movement
new three count video about a title usually means a title change is incoming (or just happened)….YEAH
I think Sgt. Slaughter claimed to be in the Marines.
Raven is the man that got me watching ECW.
Jeff Hardy might be the one TRUE WWF grand slam champ cuz he also had the Light Heavyweight title.
I was there when Bret beat Miz in Toronto. I know it's a dumb booking decision, but I'd be a liar if i told you it wasn't awesome seeing Bret win a belt in Canada.
This guys wont give cena his flowers lol
31:41 No, the correct answer is "HERE COMES MONGO!!!"
Let’s hear it for the Saskatchewan Hardcore International Title
I refuse to count the 2003 WWE US title lineage with the WCW lineage when WWWF had a US championship
3:03 *Brendan Vink
Cena only has 5 US title reigns. Flair has the aforementioned 6.
Mentioned Benoit and you didn’t talk about the Orlando Jordon matches??
John Cena defended the US CHAMPIONSHIP a lot
The lineal U.S. Championship 10 hour youtube video forthcoming?
Oli sounds Like Turbo Jack. Wait…!!!! Are they …?
I don't know what it was with AJ and KO but they couldn't have great matches together. I blame Vince.
Reviewing every Ladder Match?
30:11 ???
What about Hacksaw?
Keith lee got ill before elimination chamber 2021 not injured
Spinner WWE Championship is definitely not the WORST DESIGN of a championship belt. I mean I think that honor goes to the belt that is literally shaped like America. Now THAT is an awful design.