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  • @CynicalHistorian
    @CynicalHistorian  4 роки тому +40

    Thanks for watching, and please consider supporting the channel by buying merch: teespring.com/stores/the-cynical-historian
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    See following replies for corrections and additional info, but first, here are some related videos to check the previous lecture:
    ua-cam.com/video/hQZSAbiK2Cs/v-deo.html

    • @CynicalHistorian
      @CynicalHistorian  4 роки тому +3

      *[reserved for errata]*

    • @CynicalHistorian
      @CynicalHistorian  4 роки тому +4

      *References*
      This is a lecture, so there aren't references. But here is the textbook I assign: www.americanyawp.com/text/25-the-cold-war/
      Though if students attend class, they don't need to read the textbook. What I require them to read are primary sources, which are as follows:
      Harry S Truman, Speech to Congress on the Truman Doctrine, 12 March 1947, www.americanyawp.com/reader/25-the-cold-war/the-truman-doctrine-1947/
      Joseph McCarthy on Communism (1950), www.americanyawp.com/reader/25-the-cold-war/joseph-mccarthy-on-communism-1950/
      And here are some further readings, if you'd like some secondary sources:
      Donald Davis and Eugene Trany, _The First Cold War: The Legacy of Woodrow Wilson in U.S.-Soviet Relations_ (Columbia: University of Missouri Press, 2002). amzn.to/2OpXxwg
      Kathryn Olmsted, _Real Enemies: Conspiracy Theories and American Democracy, World War I to 9/11_ (Oxford, UK: Oxford University Press, 2009). amzn.to/2unDgjI
      Alexei Yurchak, _Everything Was Forever, Until It Was No More: The Last Soviet Generation_ (Princeton, N.Jer.: Princeton University Press, 2006). amzn.to/2J2h96T

    • @washikaafrozi1469
      @washikaafrozi1469 4 роки тому

      What 2 days ago?!?!?!?! This video was made an hour ago not 2 days.

    • @andreaslaroi8956
      @andreaslaroi8956 4 роки тому +1

      ​@@washikaafrozi1469 Good Historians are obviously able to time travel. How else do you think he knows all this stuff?

    • @drew3021
      @drew3021 4 роки тому +1

      You might be the only UA-camr I know who actually puts his references and links in the comments lol. What do you think would of happened if you're relative General Patton would of invaded Russia ?

  • @RetroRoundupUK
    @RetroRoundupUK 4 роки тому +249

    These sort of lectures would be great as a podcast.

  • @Elsenoromniano
    @Elsenoromniano 4 роки тому +136

    The part about the Broken arrows reminded me of the Palomares incident, where a b52 crash on the Southern Spanish coast near Gibraltar and detonated (gladly as a dirty bomb, so no horrible fiery death) creating a radioactive plutonium wave. That story is well known by me, because the, by then ministry of turismo in Franco Regime, Manuel Fraga, swam a little as to demonstrate there was no danger. He then lived to 89 years and was in politics almost to the end (he was the founder of the main right wing party in Spain and the President of my region for a very long time). My father always joked that the only things that could survive radiation are cockroaches, rats and Fraga, because he was worse than the two combined.

    • @concept5631
      @concept5631 4 роки тому +3

      What a madlad.

    • @StoutProper
      @StoutProper 3 роки тому

      Wonder what the cancer rates have been round there in the last 50 years? Probably covered up by Franco and successive Spanish and US governments in the name of national security. Like how catalonia's recent democratically held referendum for autonomy was overturned by the military and military police

    • @Elsenoromniano
      @Elsenoromniano 3 роки тому +7

      @@StoutProper It is been declassified recently and at least US government knew the health risk but decided no to tell any officials that were dedicated to the cleaning, Same for Spain, with the aggravating that Guardia Civil (Spanish military police) that were sent there didn't even get any protective device (no that the US soldiers got anything useful, just a cotton over shirt). Last year there was a court case that compensated American soldiers, as for Spanish people that were affected. Today will be to late to compensate the people by Spanish legislation because the statue of limitations has passed and the civil responsables are all dead, but yes there are evidence that people in the region have higher incidences of cancer.
      I also have to add that Fraga, when he was president of my region also presided over two of the worst ecological disasters in Spain, the oil spills of the Aegean Sea and The prestige. Both of which were grossly mishandled and minimized and which the compensation was too low or never reached the people it had to reach, if you ever wondered if he learned something from Palomares.

    • @rbrookeb
      @rbrookeb Рік тому

      @@Elsenoromnianodidnt US military clean it up? I remember learning a little bit about it a few years ago when a headline caught my attention. Had to do with veterans still fighting for special disability benefits 50+ years later due to exposure/cleanup. Which is just crazy. Especially considering like $200 billion of the military budget is for benefit programs /pay.

    • @rbrookeb
      @rbrookeb Рік тому

      @@Elsenoromnianojust realized how old these comments are lol

  • @Argacyan
    @Argacyan 4 роки тому +79

    19:10 One thing to keep in mind for this part imo would be that modern day South Korea is actually the "6th republic" as they went through multiple revisions & fascistic dictatorial periods endorsed by the US. The country still today can be classified as an authoritarian democracy in it's handling of political opposition & especially alleged North Koreans (both self ascribed refugees and also accused).

    • @nicholasleclerc1583
      @nicholasleclerc1583 4 роки тому +11

      "fascistic dictatorial periods endorsed by the US"
      Me : * gaaaasp * !!!!

    • @euminkong84
      @euminkong84 3 роки тому +7

      They jailed Jehovah's Witness until recently. You are right. Korea is a military state.

    • @StoutProper
      @StoutProper 3 роки тому +9

      @@euminkong84 funny that the anti Christian post of the South Korean regime is never publicised in the US

  • @highjumpstudios2384
    @highjumpstudios2384 2 роки тому +17

    I remember talking to my friend about the red scare and how much it fucked up a lot of innocent Americans lives. And how if he had been alive then, or adopted these polices today, he would be slandered and jailed for his support of unions.

  • @sergeantpanther678
    @sergeantpanther678 4 роки тому +132

    “Fiction was created to imagine what such a nuclear apocalypse would look like.”
    Me, a Fallout Fan: I see you’re a man of culture as well

    • @jeffreydudgeon4579
      @jeffreydudgeon4579 3 роки тому +6

      War.........war never changes.

    • @StoutProper
      @StoutProper 3 роки тому +6

      @@jeffreydudgeon4579 war isn't about who's right, it's about who's left

    • @StoutProper
      @StoutProper 3 роки тому +4

      Ever read the road, or seen the film? Perhaps more accurate, although nowhere near as much fun

    • @sergeantpanther678
      @sergeantpanther678 3 роки тому

      @@StoutProper I've heard good things about it both, are they worth watching?

    • @FINNSTIGAT0R
      @FINNSTIGAT0R 3 роки тому

      @@StoutProper
      The Road never specifies the nature of the catastrophe. Might be nuclear, might be an asteroid, might be the Yellowstone volcano etc. But yeah, a really good movie. Haven't read the book though, as I'm lazy 😑

  • @pawartur
    @pawartur 4 роки тому +18

    Hey, I'm not a historian, but AFAIK, it's still not clear what exactly the Russian atomic spies gave to the Soviet Union and if/how much it was used for the construction of Russian Atomic bomb. Also, it's quite clear that the Soviet Union had some world-class nuclear physicists.

  • @AncientAccounts
    @AncientAccounts 4 роки тому +152

    "Wanna turn this into a full episode later on"
    Its already 52 mins lol

    • @CynicalHistorian
      @CynicalHistorian  4 роки тому +41

      I'm more referring to the visuals. Like these slides just aren't entertaining

    • @AncientAccounts
      @AncientAccounts 4 роки тому +11

      @@CynicalHistorian Ah, fair point this does work though at least for me, its like a podcast

    • @markyocum8249
      @markyocum8249 4 роки тому +8

      Tbh, he could've spent 50 minutes just on Reagan's two terms...

    • @501ststormtrooper9
      @501ststormtrooper9 3 роки тому

      @@markyocum8249 I mean, Minnesota could’ve been nice for Christmas..

    • @lavrentivs9891
      @lavrentivs9891 3 роки тому

      Could expand on the uprisings in Eastern Europe during the 40's, 50's, 60's etc. To examplify how diverse the views of communism and socialism was, for example Dubchek's communist reforms in '68 and how even that was seen as a threat by hardliners like Brechnev. Though I can see how that would be a side track from the american focus of the lecture.

  • @patsfreak
    @patsfreak 4 роки тому +65

    This is probably more knowledgeable and cheaper then the history classes I got in college.

  • @allendean9807
    @allendean9807 3 роки тому +14

    I think it’d be really cool to take your course. So few Americans have a clear grasp on the history of our world, and our nation.

  • @MrGamerofmusic
    @MrGamerofmusic Рік тому +3

    Kinda ironic that the red scare never really left. It just was the wrong red we were made to worry about. The red that likes to oppress anything that supports blue or anything adjacent to it

  • @AmBotanischenGarten
    @AmBotanischenGarten 3 роки тому +7

    This should be a popular college course from the Civil War to the continuing Civil Rights conflict.

  • @wu-ren
    @wu-ren 4 роки тому +18

    Very interesting and informative video as always. However, I think your underplayed McArthur's intentions to use nuclear weapons against China. This would bring about yet another bloody World War but even more devastating, since Russia was allied to China and had access to nukes as well. Nuclear conflict must be avoided at all costs, so I agree with McArthur's dismissal, for he seemed like a dedicated warmonger.

  • @rangergxi
    @rangergxi 4 роки тому +34

    Just in time for the re-release of Command and Conquer: Red Alert 1. Nice.

    • @obelic71
      @obelic71 4 роки тому +2

      Wo doesn't love tesla coils

    • @klarstrup
      @klarstrup 3 роки тому

      I always thought it was funny that in the Hitler-less timeline Germany somehow became a US ally

    • @2007Shockwave
      @2007Shockwave 3 роки тому

      I'll just get ready to headbang to "Hell March" XD

  • @nemrody7828
    @nemrody7828 3 роки тому +5

    5:25 Turkey wasn't in a communist civil war in the late 40s. Turkey never had a full blown civil war (unless you count the kurd conflict, i'm not getting into that). The worst Turkey had to deal with in the 20th century was communist protests in the 70s which were crushed by far right militias or the police

  • @Gordozinho
    @Gordozinho 4 роки тому +22

    Never really understood the idea of separating Berlin in two, i mean what was it's purpose? The Soviets argued in favor of a neutral and united Germany just like Austria but the allies didn't like the idea which is, again, completly pointless.

    • @alanshadastrokeanddiedinho2897
      @alanshadastrokeanddiedinho2897 4 роки тому +4

      All natural resources and materials ,in Germany, were located in the western part of Germany. Far away from Berlin. The United States wanted to keep the Soviets from that area. Stalin didn't like this plan so he blockade Berlin.
      More on the cold war from a Soviet perspective see Vicki 1999 on UA-cam.

    • @StoutProper
      @StoutProper 3 роки тому +4

      Pretty sure it was spilt into 4 zones originally, US, British, French and Russian

    • @StoutProper
      @StoutProper 3 роки тому +5

      @@alanshadastrokeanddiedinho2897 the Russians were nice enough to wait in Berlin for the US when they won the race to get there rather than push further east

    • @franciscomap75
      @franciscomap75 2 роки тому

      @@StoutProper but the Americans bound by treaty to not enter Berlin as it was supposed to be taken by the Soviets.
      The western allies waited 45 kilometers from Berlin and were not allowed to help.

    • @StoutProper
      @StoutProper 2 роки тому

      @@franciscomap75 the Russians were there weeks before the allies, they were kicking back relaxing by the time they showed up

  • @mishapurser7542
    @mishapurser7542 3 роки тому +10

    I'm supposed to be taking a break from studies today. Now I'm watching a lecture on YT instead XD

  • @crazeelazee7524
    @crazeelazee7524 3 роки тому +7

    The video keeps bringing up the Molotov Ribbentrop pact as simply a non aggression agreement. However it was much more than that. Just like the Yalta conference, it was secretly an agreement on how to divide the conquered territories (most famously how Poland was to be split) and not mentioning that part is a massive oversight. People don't bring up the non aggression part as proof that the Soviets weren't that different from the nazis, they also had a non aggression pact with Japan but I've never heard anyone claim that Japan and the USSR were similar. It's those secret plans that are, rightfully, brought up when mentioning the Molotov Ribbentrop pact.

  • @vellinghem2187
    @vellinghem2187 3 роки тому +2

    “when the button is pushed, there’s no running away” - Eves of Destruction.
    Nice to hear those lyrics referenced man.

  • @Preedx2
    @Preedx2 4 роки тому +9

    7:45 Ribbentrop-Molotov pact was about more than just non-aggression. It was direct reaction to earlier talks where GB and France tried to convince USSR to guarantee independence of Poland and the Baltic States. Soviets instead started talks with Germans.
    In the secret portion of the pact USSR and Reich divided eastern Europe into spheres of influences and opened up possibilities to later talks, with plans on joined war on Poland.
    Pact was supplemented in late September 1939 with German-Soviet border treaty, which decided on borders between those two countries after polish defeat and opened up later cooperation between those countries, like Gestapo-NKVD conferences and tightening economic ties between those two powers
    I really enjoy those longer, lecture videos, and hope that you'll put out more of them in the future (if they take less time to make than regular content, wouldn't want to miss out on your regular videos :) )

    • @alexandrub8786
      @alexandrub8786 4 роки тому +1

      I don't know about other countries but the soviets broke their part of the deal on the Romanian border(they have taken more territory than it was accepted).

    • @warlordofbritannia
      @warlordofbritannia 4 роки тому +6

      Actually, it was France and GB freezing USSR out of international issues and conferences (re: Munich) that caused the rapprochement between the Third Reich and Soviets. If anything, France and GB *disregarding* Eastern Europe led the Soviets to initiate talks with Hitler, if only for their own protection and interests.
      Otherwise, spot on

  • @AustinCDennis
    @AustinCDennis Рік тому +1

    My gosh, that graphic during the McCarthyism section shares a lot with the fear mongering today, especially the Polio Serum section.

  • @greg_mca
    @greg_mca 4 роки тому +18

    Wasn't the Tehran conference in 1943, where they celebrated Churchill's 69th birthday? It also sounds kinda abrupt to me to jump into the Berlin airlift without the backdrop of west Germany, or the moon landings without the space race. I guess the constraints have to be drawn somewhere though. Good lecture btw

    • @visassess8607
      @visassess8607 3 роки тому +1

      Yeah he doesn't have unlimited time so he covered the main events of the Cold War.

  • @murmanpoet
    @murmanpoet 2 роки тому +2

    Great video. Just one minor point. The area in Korea that was not over run by the north was called the Busan/Pusan Perimeter, named for the city of the same name. I wouldn't say the US intervened after the Busan Perimeter, the US was already there. I forget the name of the book but there's a 700-800 page book about the Korean War that has US soldier accounts of fighting at the perimeter and how they just barely held on. Thanks for making this video.

  • @dachuxing
    @dachuxing 4 роки тому +1

    A concise synopsis and well articulated report on the Cold War.

  • @timwood2607
    @timwood2607 4 роки тому +3

    A nice overview of the Cold War years.

  • @clayfoster8234
    @clayfoster8234 3 роки тому +3

    Technical quibble on how a hydrogen bomb works: the fusion stage actually contributes very little as a percentage to the bombs overall yield. Owing to the fact that fission reactions release much much more energy than a fusion reaction. What it does do though is created an enormous amount of free neutrons that can then kick off a second, substantially larger, fission reaction. TL;DR Thermonuclear weapons are a three stage fission/fusion/fission device.

  • @bkstudio1990
    @bkstudio1990 4 роки тому +3

    Love your lectures! I used to teach U.S History and I always find something new in these!

  • @Vampwatch1462
    @Vampwatch1462 4 роки тому +4

    I think you would be a great history professor!

  • @Aderask
    @Aderask 4 роки тому +5

    You should do a historical review on the film "Men Behind the Sun". It's a very graphic film about the events that took place at Unit 731 and I've been trying to fact check the film's accuracy and most of it seems spot on with a few minor inaccuracies, but I'd rather see a more experienced historian review it.

    • @StoutProper
      @StoutProper 3 роки тому

      What's unit 731? Manhatton project nuclear testing site?

    • @Aderask
      @Aderask 3 роки тому +1

      @@StoutProper Japanese weapons testing team. They tested weapons on Chinese inmates

    • @arthas640
      @arthas640 2 роки тому

      Since the japanese destroyed so much evidence and the rest was manipulated by the soviets and CCP theres depressingly little about Unit 731 in western media or documentaries, especially since the US government made use of what little information there was so even that is rather murky and fragmented. There needs to be more about it in media like this

  • @leileijoker8465
    @leileijoker8465 4 роки тому +7

    Establishing relationship with China might helped defeating the Soviets, but it planted seeds for the second cold war. And it's starting now.

    • @christianweibrecht6555
      @christianweibrecht6555 4 роки тому +4

      to me its funny how china a communist country is now very powerful by becoming in some way more capitalistic than us

    • @leileijoker8465
      @leileijoker8465 4 роки тому +5

      @@christianweibrecht6555 no it's not more capitalist in any way. Private companies over certain size in China must have a party committee. All successful business people in China have deep party connections. They're not communist anymore for sure. But the Chinese state has more control over it's economy than any free market country.

    • @adamtrott78
      @adamtrott78 4 роки тому +8

      Luther Dai
      Capitalism ≠ free markets, they have authoritarian capitalism, closer to a type of corporatism, similar, but not the exact same as the fascist economic system.
      I’d say it’s about as capitalist as the US, but it is also a command economy, which makes it more efficient capitalism than the US

    • @leileijoker8465
      @leileijoker8465 4 роки тому +6

      @@adamtrott78 you wouldn't say Chinese economy is more efficient if you ever lived there lol. With the exception of a few coastal cities that host majority of the world's manufacturing, the rest of the Chinese economy is pretty much a lie. Local government build useless infrastructure and empty apartment blocks to claim GDP growth. And the central government in Beijing would fluctuate that number by another 10-30%. It's not more efficient, it's just the government can fake all the numbers.

    • @StoutProper
      @StoutProper 3 роки тому

      @@leileijoker8465 wait, so you mean that's no connections whatsoever between us government, Wall Street and big corporates? I never knew

  • @Psyclone542
    @Psyclone542 2 роки тому +2

    Love your channel, makes brushing up on my world history quick, easy and digestible while im working or otherwise occupied

  • @dstinnettmusic
    @dstinnettmusic 4 роки тому +36

    I just love the idea that the US literally was almost a union controlled syndicalist state but then the wealthy landowners staged a political counter revolution and literally nobody talks about it this way.
    The United States didn’t have concentration camps because they didn’t need them. We just genocided peoples’ reputations and careers. The United States made the tactics of organizing that almost led to the syndicalist revolution possible illegal too.
    (Also the US had concentration camps for leftists. It was one of the things that gave Roosevelt’s administration the idea in WW2, they just didn’t have death camps.)
    And again. Nobody talks about it that way. They act like capital wasn’t running afraid of the fact that workers were gaining power. They act like it was just a nationalism that drove people to attack communists in Hollywood and the media and not a coordinated attack on the left.
    And we wonder why we live in the oligarchy we have today, it’s because the United States sold itself out because it was afraid of that old Spector.

    • @dstinnettmusic
      @dstinnettmusic 4 роки тому +2

      Scott B I mean, those are all negative things but they aren’t concentration camps in the sense that people actually use that term.

    • @maxwelljarowey2612
      @maxwelljarowey2612 4 роки тому +2

      Anti union political did not happen until the late 70s as an result of deregulation to help the flattening economy it was still a bad idea but it was not like you think it was

  • @Lexicommonzero
    @Lexicommonzero 4 роки тому +3

    Anyone else not having this show up in notifications and subscriptions?

  • @RichardKoenigsberg
    @RichardKoenigsberg 2 роки тому +2

    Amazing analysis!

  • @BradyPostma
    @BradyPostma 4 роки тому +4

    What do you think about the idea of history UA-camrs organizing a peer review process? What would that need to entail in order to garner the respect of the scholarly community?

    • @CynicalHistorian
      @CynicalHistorian  4 роки тому +12

      We simply don't have the time to have peer review on UA-cam. Also with so few qualified historians on the platform would make it anonymizing the process next to impossible

    • @BradyPostma
      @BradyPostma 2 роки тому +2

      @Je suis Achmed The point of peer review is to distinguish the crap that is mainstream on UA-cam from a select class of valuable, verified information. The fact that valuable, verified information is treated as equal with obvious lies is the problem in search of a solution. The fact that the problem exists is not an argument against any particular solution.

    • @arthas640
      @arthas640 2 роки тому +1

      UA-cam isnt a source of information so much as a dissemination platform. They dont really need to peer review it since reputable channels source their info from peer reviewed sources and usually share their sources.
      I DO wish UA-cam would do more to investigate and take down disinformation though. There are too many pseudoscience channels and psuedohistory channels.
      Not worth removing so long as they're factually correct but there are also WAY too many channels on UA-cam have blatant biases and slant their videos to align with those biases. Even in history channels you'll see people carefully cherry picking stories and omitting important facts if it may hurt those they're biased in favor of rather then telling whole stories. Biases are bad but not always worth removing videos over so long as they're not peddling outright lies, but they should show up lower in the algorithms.

  • @Flow86767
    @Flow86767 4 роки тому +1

    If possible we should’ve a playlist of all your U.S. history lectures.

    • @CynicalHistorian
      @CynicalHistorian  4 роки тому +2

      there's only 2 I recorded like this

    • @Flow86767
      @Flow86767 4 роки тому +1

      The Cynical Historian Thx for these btw

  • @mylesmwalkerjr
    @mylesmwalkerjr 4 роки тому +2

    Thanks now I have something to put me to sleep. Love your vids by the way

  • @racewiththefalcons1
    @racewiththefalcons1 3 роки тому +2

    McCarthy may not have had a real list...but across the pond, George Orwell did (look up Orwell's List). Yes, _that_ George Orwell.

  • @Anglo_Saxon1
    @Anglo_Saxon1 Рік тому +1

    The U.S. AND the RAF were doing the airlifts over to Berlin.Not just US.

  • @AmBotanischenGarten
    @AmBotanischenGarten 3 роки тому +2

    You are a good lecturer!!

  • @grantbonar4182
    @grantbonar4182 4 роки тому +4

    Is it possible for you to do a review of “The Last Full Measure”

  • @samstuff8554
    @samstuff8554 4 роки тому +3

    " young senator named Richard Nixon " defiantly wants expecting that

  • @SuperSupper2
    @SuperSupper2 10 місяців тому +2

    While America claimed to be fighting for "democracy", there are democratic ways of using communism. What America was actually fighting for was *capitalism*

  • @redcapetimetraveler7688
    @redcapetimetraveler7688 4 роки тому +7

    2:00 "origins" what about the old anglo-russian rivalry: crimean war ( ukraine as the stake till the 2010's and now) and great game ( Afghan wars from 19th century to 2020) those areas have been contested zones of influence for 200 years for now...
    i see also there an old english pattern against revolutions in Europe and beyond. the USA also has the same defiance toward revolutions despite being born from one, interventions of US troops against rebelions , exhaustive list impossible after silver core's invasion of venezuela in 2020).

    • @alexandrub8786
      @alexandrub8786 4 роки тому

      They didn't interven in the italian referendum to get the king out? I think they are only extremists,not anti-monarchist but pro-republicanists.

    • @redcapetimetraveler7688
      @redcapetimetraveler7688 4 роки тому

      @@alexandrub8786 , it works for the Americans not the Brits..but i agree the Americans are proud of their republicanism and excert all their might to impose it.

    • @redcapetimetraveler7688
      @redcapetimetraveler7688 4 роки тому +1

      @@tiggergolah , that makes sens and explains the american civil war too...it's only when compromises failed that the south rebelled to build its own government instead of changing the common one , American are deeply conserative...that echoes with the comparisons of political spectrums with other westerners' nations :look at the next presidentials Biden versus Trump : you need an acrobate like walking on a string to reach the differences between them.

    • @StoutProper
      @StoutProper 3 роки тому

      @@tiggergolah this comment seems suddenly particularly poignant

    • @cjclark2002
      @cjclark2002 2 роки тому

      @@StoutProper what did his comment say? it’s been removed by the censor natzis

  • @tthompson9244
    @tthompson9244 Рік тому

    There's one pretty solid example of the CPUSA killing a member, in this case she was one of the founders, Juliet Stuart Poyntz. The story is that she traveled to the Soviet Union and became disillusioned with Stalin and was prepared to write about it. Perhaps even worse, she was associating with domestic Trotskyists. She disappeared.

  • @JML6988
    @JML6988 2 роки тому

    I appreciate this documentary as its narrator is objective. I've seen other history series done by the likes of Gore Vidal or Oliver Stone and those fellows are profoundly anti-American. Nice job on this video!

  • @CuttinBlade
    @CuttinBlade 2 роки тому +1

    Outstanding!

  • @Rattrap007
    @Rattrap007 4 роки тому +4

    Would love to see your Based on a True Story on Ed Wood. Can the Cynical Historian handle the shocking tale of Edward D. Wood Jr?

  • @Zen-rw2fz
    @Zen-rw2fz 3 роки тому +27

    got to sympathize with the gays, the americans called them communists and the soveits called them bourgeoisie...

    • @Xpwnxage
      @Xpwnxage 2 роки тому

      It's like Jews getting kicked out of the Soviet Union for being Capitalists and simultaneously kicked out of Nazi Germany for being called communists.

    • @cjclark2002
      @cjclark2002 2 роки тому +2

      Makes no damn sense 😂

    • @timothytietz9194
      @timothytietz9194 Рік тому +1

      Except Roy Cohn.

    • @gooran100
      @gooran100 7 місяців тому

      Well.. the gays were the only people left behind in the concentration camps, when the US & USSR freed the rest

  • @concept5631
    @concept5631 4 роки тому +2

    I just noticed that you put the UA-cam logo on the USSR flag rather than the actual communist symbol.
    This greatly amuses me.

  • @TheyTalkOnline
    @TheyTalkOnline 4 роки тому +7

    In "Molotov/Rippentrop pact" Soviet Union and The Third Reich agreed how to divide Eastern Europe + Finland amongst these two nations. Poland suffered first with Nazi and Soviet occupation. This pact launched WWII in Europe. Thanks Stalin and Hitler.

  • @sad-qy7jz
    @sad-qy7jz 3 роки тому +1

    Do you teach high school or college? I know in high school (despite going to a very well funded, one of the best in my state, high schools) my education about the Cold War, communism and the Red Scare was absolute garbage. Like my definition of Communism for APUSH was literally something to the extent of “where everyone gets paid the same, and does a job the government needs and they divy up the money and give it to everyone, but a doctor would be paid the same as a farmer”, while making the mistake of throwing a bunch of Karl clip art on the presentation with “classless moneyless society” quote being somewhere and creating a lot of confusion. Yikes. Either way it’s good to see an accurate retelling of history and understanding look of what happened without pushing a malfactual agenda . Very good video !

  • @graemelamont1617
    @graemelamont1617 4 роки тому +1

    31:35 - I think you mean "Dead Man's Hand" versus "Dead Hand" there Cipher. Plus I thought it was RFK (Bobby) that helped out McCarthy, not JFK (Jack)?

    • @slippulter8053
      @slippulter8053 3 роки тому +2

      That type of system is called a dead mans switch, however this one in particular is named Dead Hand by the west, and Perimetr by the Russians.

  • @Tansea
    @Tansea 3 роки тому

    Did Truman have the Intel/background to make the split moment decisions necessary to control the situation, his focus seemed to be the race for oil in the middle east?

  • @andersonandrighi4539
    @andersonandrighi4539 4 роки тому +3

    The Cuban Revolution is a great example of how the Cold War operated in Third World countries. It started as a nationalist revolution, but the conditions forces its leaders to chose a side. US had more to lose with its demands so they went with the Soviet Union. The really sad turn out of that Revolution was that Castro wanted to bolster democracy and became a dictator just like Fulgencio Batista

    • @HipFire1
      @HipFire1 3 роки тому

      not really there were a lot of pro democracy forces on the revolutionary side but they were killed or forced to exile to the us, castro and their pals were never going to make Cuba a democracy.

    • @karaluv_ravenovich
      @karaluv_ravenovich 2 роки тому +2

      @@HipFire1 but was it possible to stay communist democracy, when your neighbor was literally trying to place their leader?

  • @chelebelle2223
    @chelebelle2223 3 роки тому +1

    I really enjoyed the documentary! Thanks Cynical Historian! 👍

  • @shadowguy321
    @shadowguy321 2 роки тому +1

    You know, you're saying that the Cold War could be argued to have started in 1918, and it's difficult to say with certainty when the Cold War started. I'd also argue it might be difficult to say when it truly ended based on modern day events. One could say that it temporarily paused. Yes there are no Soviets anymore, officially, nevertheless the Russian Federation is arguably carrying some old Soviet-era thinking into the current political climate

  • @neddyladdy
    @neddyladdy 4 роки тому +2

    Was there a corresponding scare to the red scare in the East of The US/NATO?

    • @StoutProper
      @StoutProper 3 роки тому

      Russian top brass were convinced and terrified that the US was about to attack and invade. Not surprising considering their recent history, the fact that Churchill planned to and that the US wanted them to think that

    • @neddyladdy
      @neddyladdy 3 роки тому

      @@StoutProper Thanks Guinness. I assumed there had been but all your media is so ridiculously biased that we would never hear of anything like that.

  • @Tansea
    @Tansea 3 роки тому +1

    What's your opinion on whether Kissinger should be charged as a criminal?

  • @bothejack5929
    @bothejack5929 8 місяців тому

    5:30 What civil was there in Turkey after WW2?

  • @NotoriousLightning
    @NotoriousLightning 2 роки тому +2

    Say what you will about The Soviet Union, but they had the best national anthem in the world.

  • @MortalWombat1988
    @MortalWombat1988 4 роки тому +3

    The overview over the red scare is fantastic! But the persistent myth that the Chinese just threw masses of troops against the UN is just that, a myth. This has been extensively researched and documented. It mostly stems from the PVAs heavy use of night time infiltration- and breakthrough tactics that left UN troops regularly surrounded, giving the impression of large amounts of Chinese troops everywhere in the vicinity.
    The other half of it of course is patriotic propaganda. This was a tried and true method of interrelating lack of success that was learned from the memoirs and statements of US captured Nazi generals: "Our valiant and steadfast troops fought heroically and would have prevailed, were it not for the unceasing onslaught of the Soviet / Chinese human waves!" is just something a defeated general will admit rather than "Yeah we kind of messed up there, so this didn't go as well as it could have.."

  • @byzantineboi8345
    @byzantineboi8345 4 роки тому +1

    Hey cypher what do you think about Gavin Menzies
    Cypher : *Annoyed noises*

  • @SolarFlareAmerica
    @SolarFlareAmerica 2 роки тому +11

    "A communist dictatorship in the north, and an anti-communist Republic in the south"
    No, it was a pretty fascist dictatorship in the south Korea at the time. Look it up. It's horrible.

    • @LAHFaust
      @LAHFaust 2 роки тому +2

      Rhee wasn't a fascist. A totalitarian and fervent anti-communist? Most definitely. A fascist? No. Just because someone is on the right and a totalitarian does not make them a fascist, just like being a totalitarian on the left doesn't make on a communist.

  • @GD30.06
    @GD30.06 4 роки тому

    Still true today ,we can see it

  • @AgoraphobicNews
    @AgoraphobicNews 3 роки тому

    Epic staring contest hahahaha. Made my day

  • @tigerstyle4505
    @tigerstyle4505 4 роки тому +6

    This is the much shorter version of one part of my response to people who ask me "why haven't anarchist (or socialist/whatever) ideas taken hold more given that it was so big and is so logical, natural and intuitive?". The rest are long-form essays on settler colonialism, propaganda and indoctrination, the school system, media, and how so many words are eventually "evacuated of any and all content" here in the so-called USofA 😂

    • @arthas640
      @arthas640 2 роки тому

      Anarchism and socialism have some overlap, but are almost always 2 very differing groups and have 2 divergent goals and incompatible policies. Equating the 2 groups because they can have a tiny overlap is a bit like equating the US democratic party and the Soviets t because "they're both kinda left and both are kinda socialist".
      The US has little pluralism in politics for a few simple reasons. 1: the us has had 2 major parties and 2 major groups since colonial days with the north vs the south having such divergent goals and policies. 2: since the days of the founding fathers there were always 2 major groups who eventually turned into 2 major parties that evolved over time. And 3: the 2 party system has become so entrenched that its encoded into our polticial system and makes it impossible to form a 3rd party or get far as an independent.
      Having a 2 party system had resulted in both parties desperately trying to be very similar over all and committing similar big picture actions despite taking polar opposite stances in many issues and having such different rhetoric. Even today both parties have adopted "red baiting" with the GOP accusing much of the democratic party of being Chinese sympathizers and socialists who they consider Marxist, while the democrats accuse much of the GOP of being Russian puppets and even using nicknames like "Moscow Mitch" for Mitch McConnell or accusing Trump of being a secret ally of Putin. Both parties try to point out connections to thei opposites of being connected to the CCP through business deals. They do this because they both have such narrow margins in elections that if they can swing a few percentage points of moderates to their party they can win and this results in both parties being shockingly similar if you look at the big picture and ignore rhetoric and minor domestic policies.
      This also all results in disparate factions forming in each party that may have radical ideas. Each party is so terrified of splitting the vote because even a small fraction (like say 3-5%) can be enough to lose an election. That's why the laisse fair capitalists in the GOP rubbing shoulders with people who are borderline fascist and want the party to seize control of certain industries or take a somewhat command economy stance all to artificially expand certain industries (such as building lithium mines in the US that are economically unviable just so we dont have to import lithium), and people in the Democratic party rub shoulders with anarchists. Both parties also actively try to deny racism within their party while still tacitly endorsing racism through creative vocabulary and dog whistles.

  • @jasonc0065
    @jasonc0065 3 роки тому +1

    The CIA did the same thing in the Congo. That was a step back for the civil rights movement.

  • @Reagan1984
    @Reagan1984 4 роки тому +1

    The Latin American dictatorships are very interesting, considering that besides pledging themselves anti-communists, they often were left to their own devices.
    Argentina's Videla and Chile's Pinochet had a fairly major dispute called the Beagle Conflict, which led to Chile supporting Britain during the Falklands.

    • @HipFire1
      @HipFire1 3 роки тому +1

      Videla even had agreements with cuba regarding not denouncing each other on the UN and had some trade relationships with the USSR (in exchange both countries dropped the support for the communist terrorists groups in the country)

  • @cheeto8544
    @cheeto8544 4 роки тому

    Off topic but just a question from something you said in a video I seen earlier. What part of Vegas did you grow up in

  • @daveharrison4697
    @daveharrison4697 4 роки тому

    Missed this last week. Not like me. A point I will make about nuclear detonations... There is only one nation on the planet that has nuked TWO allied countries and got away with it. That would be the UK (we detonated bombs in Australia and the USA for reference).

  • @Travilss
    @Travilss 3 роки тому +1

    I wonder what McCarthy would think of AOC or sanders

  • @Daysofthenew86
    @Daysofthenew86 4 роки тому

    Ty, subbed

  • @TheHoagie13
    @TheHoagie13 4 роки тому +1

    SPC Hall-Patton!!! Review: *HBO's Generation KILL!!!*
    ..........pretty-please!??

    • @CynicalHistorian
      @CynicalHistorian  4 роки тому +1

      It's not exactly a historical piece, nor do I really have anything to say on it. I like it though

    • @StoutProper
      @StoutProper 3 роки тому

      @@CynicalHistorian how about the wire?

  • @Tansea
    @Tansea 3 роки тому

    I'm kinda hammered

  • @sigmascrub
    @sigmascrub 3 роки тому +4

    Huh. Turns out CPUSA was a tankie hellhole from the start

  • @patricklynch9574
    @patricklynch9574 4 роки тому

    The chocolate bomber is a cool story from the Berlin blockade.

  • @madcat789
    @madcat789 4 роки тому

    32:51 Did you audio suddenly get better?

  • @madcat789
    @madcat789 4 роки тому +3

    19:39 Ha, Poor-ea.

  • @washikaafrozi1469
    @washikaafrozi1469 4 роки тому +2

    Your videos are good. I feel like the west thinks about Cold War in Europe and East Asia (along with some other regions). But communism stretched all over the globe in Africa, Latin America, along with some other states. I like your slide shows too! Make more of these slide show videos please

    • @washikaafrozi1469
      @washikaafrozi1469 4 роки тому

      I would also say that Uncle Joe is a good name for some reason.

  • @carolineadams7283
    @carolineadams7283 4 роки тому +1

    Where do I sign up for your course ?

  • @Tansea
    @Tansea 3 роки тому +2

    Do you really, based on primary source material, think the USSR collapsed in on it self?

  • @JuddKramer
    @JuddKramer 2 роки тому

    31:27 - do I detect a Barry McGuire reference?

  • @Tansea
    @Tansea 3 роки тому

    Italy? Operation Gladio?

  • @Tansea
    @Tansea 3 роки тому

    I want to study under you.

  • @deusvultpictures6550
    @deusvultpictures6550 4 роки тому

    Its cool but let me call in a buddy of mine who is an expert on the Red Scare and he can come take a look at it.

  • @IJ72
    @IJ72 3 роки тому

    Where is "Paperclip"?

  • @Tansea
    @Tansea 3 роки тому

    B-52's on the tree line...

  • @NyJoanzy
    @NyJoanzy 4 роки тому +6

    The problem with Communism is that no country had a specific definition.
    USSR: social authoritarianism
    China: State Capitalism
    USA: anything anyone with Authority didn't like.
    Karl Marx: a librarian-anarchist democratic system to function with as little capitalist influence as possible.

    • @zyanego3170
      @zyanego3170 3 роки тому

      When did the USSR or China claim to be a "Communist State"?

    • @NyJoanzy
      @NyJoanzy 3 роки тому +4

      @@zyanego3170 they were run by single parties that called themselves communist.
      It's indirect but i'd still consider sufficient for the purposes of my claim.

    • @zyanego3170
      @zyanego3170 3 роки тому +1

      @@NyJoanzy You see, they thought that they would need an Authoritarian state to "protect the Revolution" until Capitalism is defeated and only then they could implement true Communism.

  • @madis_l9578
    @madis_l9578 4 роки тому +16

    As person born and lived USSR occupied Estonia (then real USSR in any practical sense) I find this video Quite weird. Maybe You need to be far from real stuff to have idea, that Communism is somehow better than other totalitarian ideologies. CIA sure wasn't perfect, but idea fighting communism was IMHO mostly noble.

    • @differentialequation9471
      @differentialequation9471 4 роки тому +3

      Are you certain it is not Russian Imperialism you are talking there?

    • @madis_l9578
      @madis_l9578 4 роки тому +3

      ​@@differentialequation9471 Sure, at some part of it. USSR was indeed just another name Russian Empire, but communist regime didn't make it anyhow better, only worse.

    • @differentialequation9471
      @differentialequation9471 4 роки тому +2

      @@madis_l9578 Well, Vietnam and China do not have much of a problem and their communism is more of a form of nationalism.

    • @madis_l9578
      @madis_l9578 4 роки тому +3

      @@differentialequation9471 As we all know from XX century left wing ideology (socialism) + nationalism is dangerous mix, if applied to large enough population. I don't know about Vietnam, but China sure has its concentration camps...

    • @robertbailey4243
      @robertbailey4243 4 роки тому +4

      Im a socialist living in the United states, but I can say though, strong sense of nationalism incorporated into any ideology leads to disaster and authoritarianism

  • @RobKandell
    @RobKandell 3 роки тому

    Another name for “brinksmanship” is called “playing chicken”.
    “Suicide may be a good hobby, but I wouldn’t do it for a living.”

  • @CaptainDugog
    @CaptainDugog 3 роки тому

    violently takes note.

  • @Tansea
    @Tansea 3 роки тому

    I want to study under you

  • @collinhenry9996
    @collinhenry9996 3 роки тому

    So are you really a teacher or just love history?

    • @TheDanielLivingston
      @TheDanielLivingston 3 роки тому +1

      He’s a PhD student (in history, I think?) at the University of New Mexico

  • @CosmoShidan
    @CosmoShidan 4 роки тому +1

    Hey Cypher, would you consider John Stuart Mill's Considerations on Representative Government to be proto-Wilsonian? Especially when he defends the British colonization of India?

    • @CosmoShidan
      @CosmoShidan 4 роки тому

      I'm aware that J.S. Mill supported the Union and was opposed to slavery, but I find it ironic how he was okay with "civilizing" India.

    • @cv4809
      @cv4809 4 роки тому

      @@CosmoShidan there's nothing ironic about it

    • @CosmoShidan
      @CosmoShidan 4 роки тому +1

      @@cv4809 I confess, I was trying to sound edgy. I guess funny would be more precise.

    • @williamfrancis5367
      @williamfrancis5367 4 роки тому +4

      @@CosmoShidan Ideological blind spots are fairly common. The charists in the UK were for manhood suffrage but not womanhood suffrage.
      Thatcher opposed the big state even as she introduced the national curriculum and censored what local authorities could say about gay people ( which meant they say nothing fearing for being punished for promoting homosexuality).
      William Wilberforce was a fierce opponent of slavery, but opposed workers rights, trade unionism and opposed an enquiry into the 1819 Peterloo Massacre.

    • @MauroEnfermoDeLepra
      @MauroEnfermoDeLepra 4 роки тому +3

      @@williamfrancis5367 she also hated socialism but urged the USSR to fight german unification under western influence out of fear of German economic might

  • @LordJaric
    @LordJaric 3 роки тому

    Able Archer 83 was another near miss. The Soviets were so scared (due to a number of things) that NATO would use a communication exercise as a cover for an actual attack that they had their finger's on the button ready to press it at a moments notice.

  • @MoonlightAcid1
    @MoonlightAcid1 3 роки тому +3

    the funniest thing about democracy vs communism is that democracy is a political ideology and communism is an economic ideology so they literally aren't comparable and can coexist in the same country lmao

    • @zyanego3170
      @zyanego3170 3 роки тому +3

      Well Communism is more than that, it is a stateless moneyless and classless society where the workers own the means of production.

  • @GeekHazu
    @GeekHazu 3 роки тому

    Too bad there were no Power Armor back then.

  • @andreaslaroi8956
    @andreaslaroi8956 4 роки тому +3

    I love how you describe private run nuclear power as a security risk just after talking about the US Army's constant nuclear accidents and their inability to keep track of all their nuclear weapons. The picture of nuclear tests as a spectator sport isn't helping your case either 😉

    • @BradyPostma
      @BradyPostma 4 роки тому +8

      Public or private, military or civilian, one thing is always true: people screw up.

    • @StoutProper
      @StoutProper 3 роки тому

      @@BradyPostma when you've got management who surround themselves with yes men, absolutely

  • @TheJsmitty85
    @TheJsmitty85 3 роки тому

    Umm... What civil war in Turkey? Are you talking about the PKK? That's the only thing that comes to mind.