Funny how iconic film images could be grainy, gritty and soft in focus. Now, everything has to he pristine and ridiculously clean including the retouching.
I think back then no one noticed, because that was the standard. Just as video game standards have changed. Back then you werent saying n64 & ps1 games looked like trash, or like early UA-cam videos. They didn't look bad, but now they do. What we're used to changes.
great story, and nice to take part in the suspense of trying to recreate such an iconic shot. actually a really wonderful model - still: should have shot it with the original model. she instantly got the mood, it instantly clicked with her. always put passion over technicality, and also feeling over youth.
Stellar tribute to the photographer and a sheer pleasure to see the work that goes into making an artistic photoshoot. Impressive all around! Comment on the remake of the photos: 1) a major and noticeable difference in the stand alone photo is the posture of the model. In the original, the hip is thrusted forward and her back is at an about 75° angle, which gives the model a look of power and cool confidence. In the remake, the model has her hips almost straight up and her back completely straight and facing the camera. Both of these changes, make the model in the remake look as if she is posing for a photo (in the original, the model looks so natural that it almost looks like she just went outside to smoke and wait on someone). Also, the arm in the original photo is casually relaxed close to the pocket of the pants. In the remake, the model's arm is tense and on her hip. So all of these differences make for a completely different effect: cool confidence in the original vs. a posed and slightly tense look in the remake. 2) In the nude photo, the dressed model is looking down as if thinking and casually reflecting on power. The nude model's head is almost resting on the other model and that proximity makes the two of them look intimate (as a couple). The expression on the nude's face is humble, almost innocent to the viewer. In contrast, the remake is lacking much of the nuance and complexity of the original. The remake has the dressed model looking directly at the camera (again, this makes the photo look posed. It doesnt tell us a story open to interpretation as in the original), and the head of the nude model isn't touching the head of the dressed model (this makes the two of them look like two models who are posing for a photo and who aren't close to each other). There is no trust and intimacy in the remake photo and the fact that they are shooting quickly to avoid issues with the police, makes a big difference since the nude's expression is slightly tense and alert. I've looked at both sets of photos to compare and contrast and this is what I have seen so far. All of this goes on to show that a legendary photographer isn't just capturing shots through a lens. He/she is curating a work of art, and the composition as well as mood of the photographs tells a timeless story, much like a painting or a poem ❤️
Well done. The only issue is that the perspective is very different. Newton used a medium format camera, 6x6 with appropriate optics and would not have used a 35mm camera. To recreate the photo correctly, it should have been some on a Hasselblad film camera and probably using Kodak Tri-x
Thanks for sharing this series with us, but especially for this episode in honor of Helmut Newton, a real pathbreaking photographer. And without any doubt, these re-enacted photos are brilliant as well.
oh boy. someone hitting the web implying they "get art" while someone else doesnt. Its easy to find flaws in anything and everything, but really the flaws are what make it beautiful in the first place. Finding beauty is hard, and that really is the point of it all. The decision making process is unique to the individual and its ignorant to knock someones genuine attempt at making something they care about. "good v. bad" isnt the point. all art shits good my dude. get into it.
When shooting at night or before sunset in a small street with homes around and peoples living in. Always had trouble, because we talk to loud and to much. We have to whisper, once a person throw eggs from his window, but mostly police come by, because they got call for noises.
... he had been a genius without completely realizing what kind of medium he served. => "Female attraction as part of the evolution & their potential power within." (Simply expressed.) Please spare me with "pseudo-religious" errancies/absurdity of the human conditions.
To me, it's like an insult to not collaborate with Vibeke recreating the image. You were at the same location.... You had the same model.... Reading the comments, glad I'm not the only one who feels the same.
Umm.. no. In Newton's version, she appears to be almost falling back, or leaning - so, shot is somewhere between 2d and 3d, framed by the rectangular alley. It is a commentary about perspective - ignoring the more obvious theme of woman in a state of well-dressed leisure contrasted with the stone imagery of invisible labourers. And the shot of the two women, one appears to be using the other as a shield, her head almost nuzzling the other's, like that scene from the new Tarzan movie, with him nuzzling the lioness. Yet, she wears a hat, suggesting command. So, there is this paradox of strength and weakness. The one wearing the hat is the woman, and the other is playing the part of .. husband? Boyfriend? You may see a lesbian couple, or a female actress being asked to play the part of Romeo.. which is what was usually done when Shakespeare staged his plays, I suspect, male actors being rare, or frowned upon, then.
A woman may put on a man's garment, but she is not to wear that which pertains to a man, such as the role of husband, father, or one who teaches (Torah and Talmud). Yentl (Barbra Streissand) crossed a line which she should not have crossed.
No. Poner a dos modelos "casi" en la misma posición que las originales no logra ser una buena copia. Le falta la atmósfera, la elegancia, el aplomo y la sumisión de una y otra modelos.
Apparently, Newton retired, or quit, because he got sick of the fan mail, and compliments. Oh well .. the sun is a he, the moon is a she (see, Book of Isaiah, kjv), yet the sun appears smaller does it not? Paradox, is a way of understanding gender and sexuality.
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First photo Original better : women confident, authoritative, don't give a shit, contemptuous. second photo original better : Naked girl more subdue, it is a sado-maso relation, the position of the 2 heads are more subtle. Helmut knew what he wanted, Rankin make a pseudo-copy. Helmut direct the poses following his fantasme, Rankin direct a copy-cat. Not the same.
Sorry but this operation let me feel just in the 'FEaK" mode. I wouldn't watch this video again, because it makes me feel sad about the times we are living in, Completely aware it was made 15 years ago, in better creative times. Nowadays it is much-much worse...
VIBEKE is even more gorgeous now. She should have made the new photo 😎
I agree.
Funny how iconic film images could be grainy, gritty and soft in focus. Now, everything has to he pristine and ridiculously clean including the retouching.
Joe Peffer I couldn’t agree more. I think too many people try to learn from reading specs than looking at the work of the greats.
I think back then no one noticed, because that was the standard. Just as video game standards have changed. Back then you werent saying n64 & ps1 games looked like trash, or like early UA-cam videos. They didn't look bad, but now they do. What we're used to changes.
Totally should've recreated w original model. She's gorgeous.
Another example of why John Waddell can't hold a candle anyone that's a good photographer and especially to a truly great photographer like Newton.
great story, and nice to take part in the suspense of trying to recreate such an iconic shot.
actually a really wonderful model - still: should have shot it with the original model. she instantly got the mood, it instantly clicked with her.
always put passion over technicality, and also feeling over youth.
I"m addicted to these videos when will i ever sleep again, :) great stuff !
Stellar tribute to the photographer and a sheer pleasure to see the work that goes into making an artistic photoshoot. Impressive all around!
Comment on the remake of the photos: 1) a major and noticeable difference in the stand alone photo is the posture of the model. In the original, the hip is thrusted forward and her back is at an about 75° angle, which gives the model a look of power and cool confidence. In the remake, the model has her hips almost straight up and her back completely straight and facing the camera. Both of these changes, make the model in the remake look as if she is posing for a photo (in the original, the model looks so natural that it almost looks like she just went outside to smoke and wait on someone). Also, the arm in the original photo is casually relaxed close to the pocket of the pants. In the remake, the model's arm is tense and on her hip. So all of these differences make for a completely different effect: cool confidence in the original vs. a posed and slightly tense look in the remake.
2) In the nude photo, the dressed model is looking down as if thinking and casually reflecting on power. The nude model's head is almost resting on the other model and that proximity makes the two of them look intimate (as a couple). The expression on the nude's face is humble, almost innocent to the viewer. In contrast, the remake is lacking much of the nuance and complexity of the original. The remake has the dressed model looking directly at the camera (again, this makes the photo look posed. It doesnt tell us a story open to interpretation as in the original), and the head of the nude model isn't touching the head of the dressed model (this makes the two of them look like two models who are posing for a photo and who aren't close to each other). There is no trust and intimacy in the remake photo and the fact that they are shooting quickly to avoid issues with the police, makes a big difference since the nude's expression is slightly tense and alert.
I've looked at both sets of photos to compare and contrast and this is what I have seen so far.
All of this goes on to show that a legendary photographer isn't just capturing shots through a lens. He/she is curating a work of art, and the composition as well as mood of the photographs tells a timeless story, much like a painting or a poem ❤️
THANK GOD FOR PHOTOGRAPHERS
RIP Helmut !!! A true visionary and one of the very greatest of all time.
Well done. The only issue is that the perspective is very different. Newton used a medium format camera, 6x6 with appropriate optics and would not have used a 35mm camera. To recreate the photo correctly, it should have been some on a Hasselblad film camera and probably using Kodak Tri-x
Incredible shoot and thanks for recreating it. But damn there is a certain magic that the modern images are missing. Not sure what it is…
One can never recreate GREATNESS!
Thanks for sharing this series with us, but especially for this episode in honor of Helmut Newton, a real pathbreaking photographer. And without any doubt, these re-enacted photos are brilliant as well.
These are so compelling and inspiring. Absolutely lovely Rankin
Elegance
His secrets
Incredible
Magic moment
A source of
Curiosity, inspiration
Sweet & irresistible
Succeeds, to conquer our heart
Feminine Serenity
A Rare Master
"Helmut Newton"
©...Aronne
I find an artistic symbiosis between Newton's images and Bryan Ferry's music.
I had a photography lesson with Rankin once. He said 'you look through here and press that, congratulations, your'e a photographer'
You mean he's not a hack? I think he's a hack. He does not seem to get art.
oh boy. someone hitting the web implying they "get art" while someone else doesnt. Its easy to find flaws in anything and everything, but really the flaws are what make it beautiful in the first place. Finding beauty is hard, and that really is the point of it all. The decision making process is unique to the individual and its ignorant to knock someones genuine attempt at making something they care about. "good v. bad" isnt the point. all art shits good my dude. get into it.
Wonderful work RANKIN ... I'm sure Helmut would have approved..
When shooting at night or before sunset in a small street with homes around and peoples living in. Always had trouble, because we talk to loud and to much. We have to whisper, once a person throw eggs from his window, but mostly police come by, because they got call for noises.
Didn’t get the exposure right. The original had a longer exposure which created a softer dreamier look
One of the best to ever create monochrome sexy images .
... he had been a genius without completely realizing what kind of medium he served.
=> "Female attraction as part of the evolution & their potential power within." (Simply expressed.)
Please spare me with "pseudo-religious" errancies/absurdity of the human conditions.
the windows above Vibeke's head says camera was Higher and tilted down and the back ground is pulled in more. Good EYE V
Missing street reflection backlight- the most important element!
pretty nice idea to carry out shots in those places. kind of vintage
Beautiful women and not a single tattoo!!
Close, but it doesn’t have the feel of the original. That’s why I love photography ones work can not be repeated.
thx for the series
top
cheers
frank
it's so amazing
These photos would go great with a Christmas card.
The original is streets ahead in artistic vision and quality by comparison to the document-over’ but decent effort by Rankin
Excellent... Excellent...
No disresepect to Jade, but he should've used Vibeke. 6:20 - 6:25... THAT PART.
❤ im gonna do a Newton 😂
Wow lots of people to take the second rate shot
I love him
Been looking for Rue for so many years. completely forgot and the video original got taken down some 10yrs ago, was a documentary
6:50 sry-.... but there is a difference. anyway both have "something"
To me, it's like an insult to not collaborate with Vibeke recreating the image.
You were at the same location....
You had the same model....
Reading the comments, glad I'm not the only one who feels the same.
wow, great stuff
Love Rankin.
Models don't like 'hands on' photographers. Who can blame them?
Umm.. no. In Newton's version, she appears to be almost falling back, or leaning - so, shot is somewhere between 2d and 3d, framed by the rectangular alley. It is a commentary about perspective - ignoring the more obvious theme of woman in a state of well-dressed leisure contrasted with the stone imagery of invisible labourers. And the shot of the two women, one appears to be using the other as a shield, her head almost nuzzling the other's, like that scene from the new Tarzan movie, with him nuzzling the lioness. Yet, she wears a hat, suggesting command.
So, there is this paradox of strength and weakness. The one wearing the hat is the woman, and the other is playing the part of .. husband? Boyfriend? You may see a lesbian couple, or a female actress being asked to play the part of Romeo.. which is what was usually done when Shakespeare staged his plays, I suspect, male actors being rare, or frowned upon, then.
A woman may put on a man's garment, but she is not to wear that which pertains to a man, such as the role of husband, father, or one who teaches (Torah and Talmud). Yentl (Barbra Streissand) crossed a line which she should not have crossed.
You’re reading way to deep into the picture 😂
No. Poner a dos modelos "casi" en la misma posición que las originales no logra ser una buena copia. Le falta la atmósfera, la elegancia, el aplomo y la sumisión de una y otra modelos.
inspired
they street was wet in the original
I Know This Place 😉
Please somebody take the camera away from this guy.
Apparently, Newton retired, or quit, because he got sick of the fan mail, and compliments. Oh well .. the sun is a he, the moon is a she (see, Book of Isaiah, kjv), yet the sun appears smaller does it not? Paradox, is a way of understanding gender and sexuality.
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First photo Original better : women confident, authoritative, don't give a shit, contemptuous.
second photo original better : Naked girl more subdue, it is a sado-maso relation, the position of the 2 heads are more subtle.
Helmut knew what he wanted, Rankin make a pseudo-copy. Helmut direct the poses following his fantasme, Rankin direct a copy-cat. Not the same.
I dont like this photo and this photographer. For me it looks like snapshot.
Sorry but this operation let me feel just in the 'FEaK" mode. I wouldn't watch this video again, because it makes me feel sad about the times we are living in, Completely aware it was made 15 years ago, in better creative times. Nowadays it is much-much worse...