That's why so many CHH artists who are known for their knowledge of the scripture have been falling away from the faith; they have the head knowledge but haven't developed a relationship with God
This is the fall of man wanting the tree of the knowledge of good and evil rather than depending on relationship with The God that walked with them. God bless you brothers Eduardo and Avery and Ruslan
Haha that is so on point that sometimes we tend to want a new word and new revelation. And what happens to me personally when i don’t know what to read and just open the Bible randomly, i often open the same spot, and it’s the same with paper and app versions. So i figured, God probably wants to drill the Word in me so that i would finally start applying it in my life. And what is interesting that the Word is as if written personally to me, because it talks about things that i am struggling with. So even though i have read the same passage many times, if i open it again i read it again and i try to apply it again. Repetition is very important when forming habits, thats what God is teaching me at least.
I took A college level course on Gnosticism, When we speak of the secret knowledge we should be very specific for two reasons on which kind of knowledge and what the knowledge was. Because Gnosticism was not one thing , it was a broad term And second each gnostic sect had an idea about a certain knowledge about something. Because when we don’t specify, anyone can just claim whatever knowledge you have which can be legit, is gnostics. One strand that pervades it is that gnostics rebelled against the church structure and what they taught saying a certain apostle had given them this knowledge. The most significant being the antisemitic idea that the God of Israel was the evil creator God who trapped is in bodies , so flesh is wicked while spiritual thought is good . Theres a whole story behind it and complex systems but thats it in a nutshell
I became a believer with zero Biblical knowledge. But for me, the greatest proof that Jesus is God is within the micro and macro codes within the Biblical text. The most specific one is in Genesis 5. These codes verify that what is in the Bible is outside the dimensions of time and space. Prophecies also play a big role in establishing the Bible as God's Word. Because that leaves only two options. Option #1 is that the Bible is from God and option #2 is that someone, with a Delorean and a flux capacitor in ancient times went to the future, watched events happen, then went back in time to have someone write about it. I'm betting on option #1.
Scholars do not call the Bible God's Word. Who would call the Bible that when it has so many mistakes? Dr. W Graham Scroggie of the Moody Bible institute, Chicago, one of the most prestigious Christian evangelical missions in the world says on page 17 of his book “It is human, yet divine”: “...Yes, the Bible is human, although some out of zeal which is not according to knowledge, have denied this. Those books have passed through the minds of men, are written in the language of men, were penned by the hands of men and bear in their style the characteristics of men....” Another erudite Christian scholar, Kenneth Cragg, the Anglican Bishop of Jerusalem, says on page 277 of his book, “The call of the minaret”: “.....Not so the New testament....... There is condensation and editing; there is choice reproduction and witness. The Gospels have come through the mind of the church behind the authors. They represent experience and history.....”
Nowhere not once in the Synoptic Gospels of Matthew, Mark, and Luke does Jesus say he is God. He does talk about himself as the Son of Man; he says he must be killed and raised from the dead, and he admits he is the messiah. Only in the gospel of John(written decades later) does Jesus claim to be God. To think that our 3 earliest gospel writers(and their sources) would fail to mention that fact is truly incredible.
@@thomasjoat2396 We could argue on good evidence that the author of Mark depicts Jesus as divine, but nowhere does it explicitly state that he is Yahweh. My claim is that Jesus never calls himself God until our last gospel of John, written about 70 years after the events it describes. Why would the other writers leave that out? Seems like a pretty important thing to leave out…
What? 😅 Jesus says it all over the gospels that he is the son of Man, Son of God, and gives many parables and scriptures that Jesus fulfills as the LORD God said he would do in the Torah. Just to name a few. Matthew 3:17, Matthew 9:2-7, Matthew 10:32-33, Matthew 11:27-30, Matthew 14:33, Matthew 16:13-17, Matthew 28:19, Mark 1:3 (compare this to Isaiah 40:3-5 which John the Baptist did) Mark 2:10, Mark 2:27 etc. I didn’t even get into Luke. Isaiah 9:6-7
There is one true God, the Father. He is our God and the God of Jesus. “About eating food sacrificed to idols, then, we know that “an idol is nothing in the world,” and that “there is no God but one.” For even if there are so-called gods, whether in heaven or on earth - as there are many “gods” and many “Lords” - yet for us there is one God, the Father. All things are from him, and we exist for him. And there is one Lord, Jesus Christ. All things are through him, and we exist through him.” 1 Corinthians 8:4-6
If you're using this verse to exclude Jesus from being God then you have to use this verse to Exclude the Father from being Lord. Jesus cannot be our Savior and not Be God. That would be blasphemy. God makes it very clear thier is no Savior besides him. In the book of Isaiah 43:11 and Hosea 13:4 . If Jesus is not God then we're all in danger. We're all dead in sin. Jesus is our Savior because he is both Man and God. He cannot be anything less. But I don't think Unitarians understand that.
@@matthewtheron2505 God sent a savior to save the remnant of Israel, and all those who believe in him. And in the same way, God sent a savior to Israel, to save them for the Syrians. “Then the Lord gave Israel a savior, so that they escaped from under the hand of the Syrians; and the children of Israel dwelt in their tents as before.” II Kings 13:5 “And the Lord did not say that He would blot out the name of Israel from under heaven; but He saved them by the hand of Jeroboam the son of Joash.” II Kings 14:27 And yet Hosea is still correct to say: “Yet I am the Lord your God Ever since the land of Egypt, And you shall know no God but Me; For there is no savior besides Me.” Hosea 13:4 In every case, including Jesus, it’s called agency. There is no verse to suggest that the messiah has to be also God not that we must believe him to be God.
@@crem004 1 Corinthians 8:6 doesn't work for a multitude of reasons. As the person above pointed out, to use this in order to exclude Jesus from the category of God is to simultaneously exclude the Father from the category of Lord. It's an inconsistent argument. Secondly, Paul's usage of "one Lord (heis kyrios)" correlates to Jesus' usage of Deuteronomy 6:4 in Mark 12:29 where he says "kyrios heis estin". Saying "kyrios heis" / "heis kyrios" is the Jewish way of saying Yahweh is one. And in 1 Corinthians 8:6, that's applied to Jesus, showing that Jesus is that one Yahweh, alongside the Father. So your argument back-fires and proves Jesus is God Almighty.
@@crem004 Jesus himself says if you don't believe that he is The " I Am He" you will die in your sins. That's not my words but his. Thiers no way around that. Imagine David or Moses used terms only applicable to God. That would be absolute blasphemy for mere men to say things only God can say. They would be killed immediately. And that's just one of the things he said. And if God says their is no savior besides him...theirs no savior besides him. Only he can save his people. Sure his used mere men to save his people. I get that. But when it comes to the souls of all mankind. Their no savior besides him. He himself came down and saved his people. All of us! Not just his people but all man kind. Because its not just Israel that's at stake. It's the soul of all man kind at stake. And even away from those verses. If those verses don't suggest Jesus having to be God...Fine. It still becomes nearly impossible to deny the deity of Christ. The agent himself is God manifested in the Flesh. I mean when Jesus is called God by his own disciples and by the Father himself. I don't get how much clearer you want it. The evidence is overwhelming. Even his enemies acknowledged his deity. They wanted him dead because of it! I've now looked at more than enough arguments and verses from Unitarians trying to be open to the idea that hey maybe Jesus is not God. Because if I'm wrong I want to cling to what's true. But the more I look the more difficult it get's to deny his Deity and to deny the Triunity of God. In fact you're walking on dangerous ground when doing so. If you deny the Son and his deity you deny the Father. And I don't want to do that. Nor do I want my brother and sister in Christ to do that either. We can argue about this and that. This doctrine or that doctrine. But when it comes to the Deity of Christ it's a non-negotiable.
Personally I just use Bible verses to prove Jesus's divinity like Hebrews 1:3 and the entire first chapter lol of Hebrews, Colossians 2:9, Philippians 2:5-6, John 10:30, John 1:1 and the most solid one for me which being John 8:58 which all affirm that Jesus is God Almighty. Good Video and Praise the Lord.
only God can forgive sins but Jesus forgives them too. either Jesus is a lunatic that has managed to be the greatest deceiver of all time or is one with God
@@crem004 nope inaccurate all proof texts are not taken out of contexts and are actually supported by the context and are clear and supported with scholarly evidence so pls stop being dishonest
@@nickcalma222scholars are a dime a dozen whom all are blinded by their own presuppositions and bias towards their own perspective. You can find scholars in every corner of beliefs.
And the magistrate ask’d him, Good Rebbe what must I do to be worthy of the Life [to come] ? And ‘ho Iesous’ answer’d him saying ‘Don’t you EVER call me ‘good’ !!! That is an epithet reserv’d for the Holy One of Yisro’el alone !! But if you really wish to be worthy of the Life [to come] obey ev’ry precept of Torah - don’t murder, don’t steal, don’t lie in court, don’t defraud your clients etc.’ see Mark 10:18ff It seems that R. Yehoshua bar Yosef the Galilean (BCE 13/12 to 35/36 CE) identified himself with the barEnasha (‘son of man’ see Aramaic Daniel 7:13-26) in many places in the (4) canonical Greek gospels …
That's what everyone has but it has to be based on evidence; otherwise, everyone has proof for what they believe despite those beliefs being different. We worship God the way HE says to worship Him and He sent us prophets and messengers to tell us exactly who He was and how to worship Him. It is not on us to just believe whatever we want. We do so upon proofs.
“They said to one another, “Were not our hearts burning within us while He was speaking to us on the road, while He was explaining the Scriptures to us?”” Luke 24:32
I love the way this was laid out. Honestly, I'm relatively critical of godlogic - mostly as I consider his content to be more divisive then uniting. Him and Radar were on point to the point where I am reconsidering my own non trinitarian ways - to a degree.
I think you should have Sean Griffin from Kingdom In Context on your show Ruslan, to give a coherent and well researched voice to the other side of the trinity debate.
Flexxing on that Hebrew logic lol. I'm a Jew who believes in Christ and follows Christianity, and I applaud any Christian who takes the time to learn the Hebrew, 'cause the Hebrew confirms Yeshua as the Christ and as God!
He's right about people going to Rabbinic Judaism. I know plenty of people who are in this ideology. One of them wanted my mom (she crochets) to make a tsetse even. He wore a shirt that had a Hebrew word and then a translation. My pastor, who was going through Hebrew at the time, said, you know, it's actually this. He hasn't been to my church since. They have weird thoughts on scripture.
Hebrews 1 is also referencing psalm 110 1The LORD says to my Lord: “Sit at my right hand, until I make your enemies your footstool.” 2The LORD sends forth from Zion your mighty scepter. Rule in the midst of your enemies! 3Your people will offer themselves freely on the day of your power,a in holy garments;b from the womb of the morning, the dew of your youth will be yours.c 4The LORD has sworn and will not change his mind, “You are a priest forever after the order of Melchizedek.” 5The Lord is at your right hand; he will shatter kings on the day of his wrath. 6He will execute judgment among the nations, filling them with corpses; he will shatter chiefsd over the wide earth. 7He will drink from the brook by the way; therefore he will lift up his head.
Matthew 3:17 And a voice from heaven said, “This is my Son, whom I love; with him I am well pleased.” Matthew 17:5 5 While he was still speaking, a bright cloud covered them, and a voice from the cloud said, “This is my Son, whom I love; with him I am well pleased. Listen to him!” That voice is God/Yahweh, informing us as to who Jesus is. And he doesn't introduce Jesus to us as God, but as his son. God say's Jesus is his son, not God. I would think what God say's should be sufficient, and trump any misinterpretation being pushed by well meaning pastors and teachers. Corinthians1 3 Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, the Father of mercies and God of all comfort, The author of this book, under the influence of the Holy Spirit conveyed the hierarchy of authority in Heaven by stating that God is the Father of our Lord Jesus Christ. 1John 18 No one has seen God at any time. The only begotten Son, who is in the bosom of the Father, He has declared Him. A clear distinction is made here as to who Jesus is in relation to God. 1Corinthians 8:6 Yet for us there is one God, the Father, from whom are all things and for whom we exist, and one Lord, Jesus Christ, through whom are all things and through whom we exist. 1Timothy 2:5 For there is one God and one mediator between God and mankind, the man Christ Jesus, Matthew 28:18 And Jesus came and said to them, “All authority in heaven and on earth has been given to me. Matthew 11:27. All things have been handed over to me by my Father, and no one knows the Son except the Father, and no one knows the Father except the Son and anyone to whom the Son chooses to reveal him. John 3:35. The Father loves the Son and has given all things into his hand. What's being communicated in these verses is that Jesus has no authority other than that which has been given him by our Father. If he were God, he would not need to have any authority bestowed upon him.
Who rescued the Israelites out of Egypt? God. For certain people have crept in unnoticed who long ago were designated for this condemnation, ungodly people, who pervert the grace of our God into sensuality and deny our only Master and Lord, Jesus Christ. Now I want to remind you, although you once fully knew it, that Jesus, who saved a people out of the land of Egypt, afterward destroyed those who did not believe. And the angels who did not stay within their own position of authority, but left their proper dwelling, he has kept in eternal chains under gloomy darkness until the judgment of the great day- Jude 1:4-6 ESV “Then I will pour out a spirit of grace and prayer on the house of David and the residents of Jerusalem, and they will look at me whom they pierced. They will mourn for him as one mourns for an only child and weep bitterly for him as one weeps for a firstborn. Zechariah 12:10 CSB Then they cried out to the Lord in their trouble, and he brought them out of their distress. He stilled the storm to a whisper, and the waves of the sea were hushed. They rejoiced when the waves grew quiet. Then he guided them to the harbor they longed for. Psalms 107:28-30 CSB He got up, rebuked the wind, and said to the sea, “Silence! Be still!” The wind ceased, and there was a great calm. Mark 4:39 CSB For a child will be born for us, a son will be given to us, and the government will be on his shoulders. He will be named Wonderful Counselor, Mighty God, Eternal Father, Prince of Peace. Isaiah 9:6 CSB In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. He was with God in the beginning. All things were created through him, and apart from him not one thing was created that has been created. John 1:1-3 For everything was created by him, in heaven and on earth, the visible and the invisible, whether thrones or dominions or rulers or authorities - all things have been created through him and for him. Colossians 1:16 CSB
@@DuzzinsSama Why didn't you address any of the scriptures I posted? If I were attempting to rebut a post from you, I'd start with addressing whatever it is you posted specifically. Then I would make my counter argument afterward. I ask you to do the same. I will rebut only two of your assertions for now, until you do as I've asked. NIV Jude 1:5 Though you already know all this, I want to remind you that the Lord at one time delivered his people out of Egypt, but later destroyed those who did not believe. The correct translation is Lord, not Jesus. You'll see this reflected in the KJV, NIV, and NKJV. Regarding Isaiah 9:6 The correct translation is “everlasting father”.. “Father” was being used in the cultural understanding of either one who was the first to do something or someone who was important in some way. Because the Messiah will be the one to establish the age to come, raise the dead into it, and rule over it, he is called “the father of the coming age.” “Mighty God”.. is better translated “Mighty Hero”.. The exact same word for God in this verse was also used for the Babylonian king in Ezekiel. We both know he isn't God, nor is he a god.
@devinnichols1514 perhaps I could have done that but the Trinity is non negotiable. The Jude passage, earliest manuscript contains Jesus. Also who is the Lord mentioned right before mentioning the Lord? Paul makes the same assertion that it was Jesus. Jesus himself says Moses wrote of him.
@@DuzzinsSama Our conversation is done.. You don't get to dictate the terms of this exchange. Especially when you're unwilling to have an actual exchange. In the future, if you attempt to rebut a point of view that you don't agree with, do it respectfully. Address what's communicated, then present your references with your perspective.
@devinnichols1514 well I pray you read those scriptures for yourself, my friend. There is only one Lord. Not two Lords in heaven. There is only the Lord Jesus Christ.
Psalms ch.83:18KJV"That men may know that thou, whose name alone is JEHOVAH, art the most high over all the earth." So according to The scriptures there is but one person called JEHOVAH and this one person exhaust the category of most high God. According to the trinity doctrine there are three other subjects that are at least equal to Jesus therefore the Trinitarian Jesus is not the JEHOVAH of the bible.
This was great! 🙂… The quest for knowledge isn’t the spirit of Gnosticism though. The Holy Spirit is the spirit of knowledge, wisdom & council. The Bible is big on getting understanding & growing in knowledge & wisdom. That’s why Jesus was studying at 12. Gnostics believe the earth is fundamentally evil, that there’s 2 gods & one is the god of the material, and that Jesus couldn’t be a man because the material is is innately evil. In doing so, they error they miss that all things made by God are good & that Go dwells with us. Yes, the material is a little less important just because it’s temporal & doesn’t satisfy. But it is not evil. It’s the creation & artwork of God. Gnostics took that to a whole other level. That’s important to differentiate because in demonizing gaining understanding or wisdom of your own beliefs, you give Christianity cult values. And Christianity is not a cult. There is freedom here. You are encouraged by God to seek, understanding & get both wisdom and conviction. That’s an important differentiator because most people who leave the faith… leave because they were never taught to talk to God about the hard things.
I am who I am is the English version of this and absolutely confirms current personal and eternal existence I will be what I will be, is not current personal or eternal, only futuristic Please be careful when translating these words Scripture confirms Yahweh is personal and eternal, past present future, to translate it the way you speak of it into English removes the personal and eternal aspect of the phrase Your overthinking it I am who I am
John ch.8:50NIV"I am not seeking glory for myself; but there is one who seeks it, and he is the judge. " I Can't even conceive of Almighty God JEHOVAH Saying something like this.
“I am the Alpha and the Omega-the beginning and the end,” says the Lord God. “I am the one who is, who always was, and who is still to come-the Almighty One.” Revelation 1:8 NLT
And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: God was manifest in the flesh, justified in the Spirit, seen of angels, preached unto the Gentiles, believed on in the world, received up into glory. 1 Timothy 3:16 KJV
@@nirvashneenaidu8570 1Timothy ch.3:16NIV"Beyond all question, the mystery from which true godliness springs is great: He appeared in the flesh, was vindicated by the Spirit, d was seen by angels, was preached among the nations, was believed on in the world, was taken up in glory.Beyond all question, the mystery from which true godliness springs is great: He appeared in the flesh, was vindicated by the Spirit, d was seen by angels, was preached among the nations, was believed on in the world, was taken up in glory." Hermeneutics 101 we never use a disputed text as a prooftext.
Is it safe to say the fallen Angels and Satan who knew God’s knowledge for being in his presence; twisted this knowledge to fool the masses and be in bondage to the things of the world & the schemes of the enemy?
No, he’s right. The Trinity is false, it’s not stated explicitly in the Bible that Jesus is God. Jesus is the son of God, even he prayed to God. Also it’s not possible for Jesus to be 100% human and 100% God, Jesus himself prayed to the Father, the one and only God.
Not true. Jesus even after his resurrection Jesus said “I am ascending to MY GOD AND YOUR GOD.” Jesus was no longer in the form of a servant. Therefore, the whole argument fell apart. The Tetragrammaton doesn’t get used at Psalm 102 when being quoted at Hebrews 1:10-12. Paul is quoting the Septuagint. Also, we have to realize that just because the passage in the Old Testament is apply to Jesus doesn’t mean that that is talking about him. For example, in Psalm 45. God is talking about David but then it’s apply to Jesus. Is Jesus David? No
The Trinity is false, it’s not stated explicitly in the Bible that Jesus is God. Jesus is the son of God, even he prayed to God. Also it’s not possible for Jesus to be 100% human and 100% God, Jesus himself prayed to the Father, the one and only God.
@@Chasing-Truth I don't see how people can't understand what you said. It's clearly written for us. Have you ever read "The ascension of Isaiah" brother? Chapter 4 explains why the trinity doctrine is being preached. Non canonical but anyone that has the Holy Spirit will have no problem seeing if it's legit or not.
@@Bouncer83 I skimmed through the book and read Chapter 4 after reading your reply, I had no idea this book existed but it seems to be accurate. Chapter 4 confirms the prophecies in Revelation.
@@Bouncer83 Are trinitarians and Christendom preaching in over 100s of languages that JWs are doing? And how the heck can u preach something that so confusing even theologians dont understand it and they have a degree
Christians say that God is "immutable", i.e. unchanging. How then can it be said that He passed through the state of death? How could He grow in knowledge? (Luke 2:52). When we forgive a debt it means that we expect no payment. "The Lord's Prayer" asks God to forgive our debts the way we forgive our debtors. Why then does Jesus' have to pay a price for our sins?
Because Jesus is God. God pays for the debt. He explained in great detail how he made a body which could be the sacrifice. Jesus is the image of the invisible God. When you see him you’ve seen the father. Read Philippians 2:7-10
@@GraceAbove223 God set a price and then paid it himself? What's the point of us being here then? God looks like a Palestinian Jew? Wasn't it said no one see God and live? How did all the people see Jesus then and not die and if they saw Jesus and Jesus is God, then God wasn't invisible.
@@nunya54 The Spirit of God is invisible. The image of God is Jesus who is visible. God is Holy and a Spirit so he’s a Holy Spirit. Jesus is the Way Truth and Life so until he came as a man lived as a man we couldn’t not connect to him. The sacrifice was what bridged us to him in his death. The whole point of the New covenant is to tear down the barriers between us in spirit. As to why God did it this way? I guess because he is God and can. I don’t question his motives I just learn from what he’s told us. You have to look at this with both physical and spiritual eyes. We are made of Body(Soma)Soul(Pseuke)mind will and emotions, and Spitit(pneuma). God is a Body(Jesus )Soul(God, Mind, will and emotions)and spirit(omnipresence, omnipotent, and omniscient) the Bible is showing you God trough different modes in which he operates. Son means he’s from God( eternally Jesus is God) temporarily with a human body he was a man who had blood that was shed for you and I. He made himself of no reputation so he could be in obedience to death. God would not have been just to not suffer as we do and feel our burdens. He had to take on sin to conquer sin for everyone.Colossians 1:15, John14:9Colossians 2:9.
@@nunya54 The point of us being here is to Follow the example. To show people love whether they love you or not. To be kind to be giving to show people Gods qualities trough our actions.
Is Jesus Almighty God? Common answers: ▪ “Yes, Jesus is God Almighty.” ▪ “Jesus was the manifestation of God in the flesh.” What did Jesus say? ▪ “If you loved me, you would rejoice that I am going my way to the Father, because the Father is greater than I am.” (John 14:28) Jesus acknowledged that he and his Father are not equals. ▪ “I am ascending to my Father and your Father and to my God and your God.” (John 20:17) Jesus did not speak of himself as God but spoke of God as a separate Person. “I have not spoken out of my own impulse, but the Father himself who sent me has given me a commandment as to what to tell and what to speak.” (John 12:49) Jesus’ teachings did not come from him; they came from the Father. JESUS claimed to be the Son of God, not Almighty God. If Jesus were God, to whom was he praying while here on earth? (Matthew 14:23; 26:26-29) Surely Jesus was not just pretending to talk to someone else! When two of Jesus’ disciples asked him for special positions in his Kingdom, he answered: “This sitting down at my right hand and at my left is not mine to give, but it belongs to those for whom it has been prepared by my Father.” (Matthew 20:23) Was Jesus telling them a lie when he stated that he did not have the authority to grant their request? Hardly! Rather, he humbly acknowledged that only God has the authority to make such decisions. Jesus even explained that there were some things that neither he nor the angels knew but that were known only by his Father.-Mark 13:32. Was Jesus lower than God only while he was a man here on earth? No. Even after his death and resurrection, Jesus is described in the Bible as being subordinate to God. The apostle Paul reminds us that “God is supreme over Christ.” (1 Corinthians 11:3, Today’s English Version) The Bible says that in the future “when all things have been placed under Christ’s rule, then he himself, the Son, will place himself under God, who placed all things under him; and God will rule completely over all.”-1 Corinthians 15:28, TEV. Clearly, Jesus is not God Almighty. That is why he spoke of his Father as “my God.”-Revelation 3:2, 12; 2 Corinthians 1:3, 4.
Numbers ch.23:19NIV"God is not human, that he should lie, not a human being, that he should change his mind. Does he speak and then not act? Does he promise and not fulfill?" So if your God is or ever was human he is not THE JEHOVAH Of scripture.
Jesus was sinless so these verses don't apply to him because this verse talks about God never changing his mind. If you read Hebrews 13:8 that verse says that Jesus is the same yesterday, today and forever. Jesus is God and God never changes.
@@nirvashneenaidu8570 Jesus was a man and God is not /never a man Acts ch.2:22NIV"“Fellow Israelites, listen to this: Jesus of Nazareth was a MAN accredited by God to you by miracles, wonders and signs, which God did among you through him, as you yourselves know." The verse has nothing to do with sin but with the limits that all men are subject to. A man might sincerely pledge to do a thing but because of his limitations as a creature he might end up unable to fulfill his pledge ,this is never the case with the creator. Hebrews ch.13:9NIV"Do not be carried away by all kinds of strange teachings.." The doctrine about Christ cannot be altered by men ,yesterday does not mean the eternal past. Hosea ch.11:9NIV"I will not carry out my fierce anger, nor will I devastate Ephraim again. For I am God, and not a MAN...." It is impossible for JEHOVAH to ever be/become a man.
@@nirvashneenaidu8570 acts ch.3:13NIV"The God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob, the God of our fathers, has glorified his servant Jesus. You handed him over to be killed, and you disowned him before Pilate, though he had decided to let him go. " According to scripture JEHOVAH is the God, Lord and Father of Jesus Christ.
I think this Hebrews argument might be a case of special pleading. There are lots of Old Testament references applied to Jesus in the book of Hebrews, and most of the original subjects are people other than Yahweh. For example, in the first 2 Chapters there are 10 Old Testament references applied to Jesus. Three of those were originally about Yahweh, yeah. But the rest were originally about Israelite Kings, David himself, Solomon, and one of them is about mankind in general (Psalm 8). Why should we think the author of Hebrews is trying to tell us that Jesus is Yahweh when he quotes Psalm 102, but that he's NOT trying to tell us Jesus is Solomon when he quotes 2 Samuel 7. In Heb 2:13-15, the author quotes several passages as if they are Jesus speaking, but those things were originally spoken by David, and by Isaiah, respectively. Is he trying to tell us that Jesus is actually Isaiah? No, we understand that the author is using familiar old testament language to describe true things about Jesus. I don't think we should assume the author is trying to identify Jesus as any one of these characters (whether it's David, Solomon, Isaiah, or Yahweh). Rather, he's trying to tell us something important about Jesus, using familiar old testament language. I think a careful reading of the book of Hebrews will reveal that Jesus and the One True God are considered two different characters in this book.
Is jesus almighty God ? The Bible’s answer Jesus’ opposers accused him of making himself equal to God. (John 5:18; 10:30-33) However, Jesus never claimed to be on the same level as Almighty God. He said: “The Father is greater than I am.”-John 14:28. Jesus’ early followers did not view him as being equal to Almighty God. For example, the apostle Paul wrote that after Jesus was resurrected, God “exalted him [Jesus] to a superior position.” Obviously, Paul did not believe that Jesus was Almighty God. Otherwise, how could God exalt Jesus to a superior position? -Philippians 2:9.
The three pairs each consist of a conjunctive clause "for/and" followed by an adversative clause "but", as follows: First pair - V5 ("for" to which of the angels) V6 ("yet/but" when He brings His firstborn) Second pair - V7 ("and" of the angels He[it] says) V8 ("but" of the son) Third pair - V10 ("and" you, Lord laid the foundations) V13 ("but" to which of the angels) Looking at the conjunctions then, we see: V5 - "γὰρ"... V6 - "δὲ" V7 -" Καὶ"... V8 -" δὲ" V10 - "Καὶ"... V13 - "δὲ" Why is this important? Because it shows clearly that the author of Hebrews is NOT appropriating Psalm 102:25-27 to be a reference to Jesus. V10 doesn't say "and He also says of the son". Verses 10-12 are the declaration that YHWH's throne remains forever. Verse 13 then adds, "BUT to which of the angels has He ever said 'Sit at my right hand.’” In other words, God's throne remains (even when this present age passes away) and He has never made an angel to be "heir of all things" over the age to come. Only to "the Son,” the man Jesus, has He ever made this promise. It makes no sense for the author to make such an elaborate attempt at defending that the man Jesus the Messiah is YHWH himself. Rather, the author has proven that Jesus has become far superior to the angels-not as YWHW himself but as the Messiah and high priest YHWH promised long ago.
“But to the Son He says: “Your throne, O God, is forever and ever; A scepter of righteousness is the scepter of Your kingdom. You have loved righteousness and hated lawlessness; Therefore God, Your God, has anointed You With the oil of gladness more than Your companions.” And: “You, Lord, in the beginning laid the foundation of the earth, And the heavens are the work of Your hands. They will perish, but You remain; And they will all grow old like a garment; Like a cloak You will fold them up, And they will be changed. But You are the same, And Your years will not fail.”” Hebrews 1:8-12 NKJV
Isn’t YAHWEH a pagan god? You guys just searched the translation of O Lord and it clearly shows Jehová or YAHOVA, so why are you guys continuing to pronounce it as Yahweh?
Maybe do a video called:How to prove the bible is true.For atheists, trying to prove things by quoting the Bible doesn't answer any questions.Just think y'all.
Using Hebrews Chapter 1 to try to prove the claim that Jesus is God is a bad chapter to prove it. There’s plenty of other places in the Bible you’ll have better luck supporting such belief.
Nice but the Hebrew word is Adonai. Nobody speaks Gods real name because it is too holy so I suggest keeping it holy and not saying it 'les man turn to corrupt his name as we have already corrupted the word "God"
It's sad the book of John is about Jesus being God and showing his diety how people don't see that is sad and you don't need to know Greek or Hebrew to see that
By this logic, Moses and judge Gideon must be almighty God. Isaiah ch.10:26NIV"26The LORD Almighty will lash them with a whip, as when he struck down Midian at the rock of Oreb; and he will raise his staff over the waters, as he did in Egypt." We all know who it was who lifted his rod over sea at the time of Israel's escape from Egypt. Exodus ch.14:15,16NIV"Then the LORD said to Moses, “Why are you crying out to me? Tell the Israelites to move on. 16Raise your staff and stretch out your hand over the sea to divide the water so that the Israelites can go through the sea on dry ground. " So ironclad trinitarian style proof that Moses IS JEHOVAH. Need more : James Ch.4:12NIV,"There is only one Lawgiver and Judge, the one who is able to save and destroy. But you-who are you to judge your neighbor?" Likely we all agree that this one lawgiver is the Lord JEHOVAH. Well according to our Lord and saviour Moses is also lawgiver And thus per Trinitarian logic JEHOVAH as well John ch.7:19NIV"Has not Moses given you the law?..." It's called the fulfillment fallacy fellas. Also there is what is called the law of agency. In verse two of chapter one you notice that the God(not the Father) Created the world "Dia" ,from which we get the word diameter, his firstborn. Thus the firstborn is not the source of the energy and information in the creation but the instrument of that source further Just as the the giving of the law can be ascribed to both Moses and JEHOVAH with no implication that the two are identical so to the ordering of the universe can be ascribed to both JEHOVAH And his principle instrument with no implication that the two are identical
The verse mentions the LORD's rod, which is a symbol of his power and authority. This verse talks about the LORD's power and his rod as a symbol of authority, it was Moses rod, but when LORD said it was his he meant that the power from rod came from him and not moses being lord.
@@nirvashneenaidu8570we both know that if the name Jesus was in the place of the name Moses this would have been a Trinitarian prooftext. Your eisegesis is interesting but the scripture clearly shows that it was Moses rod i.e the symbol of Moses authority which was lifted up over the sea. Let's look at the text again. Exodus ch.14:15,16NIV"Then the LORD said to Moses, “Why are you crying out to me? Tell the Israelites to move on. 16Raise YOUR staff and stretch out YOUR hand over the sea to divide the water so that the Israelites can go through the sea on dry ground. " The verse also mentions JEHOVAH as the one who whipped the elders of Sukkoth in the time of Gideon's defeat of Midian see judges ch.8:15,16, so as per Trinitarian logic Gideon must be JEHOVAH as well. Again if the name in the text was Jesus this would be another trinitarian prooftext.
It's pretentious quoting the Bible to placate people who don't necessarily believe the bible.Thats the point.If someone doesn't believe in dinosaurs,you don't pick up a dinosaur book and say;Well here's the proof,this dino book says dinos existed.Your not convincing anyone but christians.
I've been a Christian for over 30 years, and I have never met anyone that became a Christian from people quoting the Bible. You are correct that for unbelievers, this is "casting pearls before swine." In most cases it is a waste of time. I would say that most Christians, me included, got saved without knowing anything about the Bible. I grew up in a home that never went to church. To the unsaved, the Word of God means nothing. In these 30-plus years, this is what I have found out. The only parts of the Bible that are spiritually available for non-believers are the four Gospels. The remainder of the Old and New Testament are coded for believers only. A non-believer can read it, but without the Holy Spirit, much of the contents is hidden. There are both micro codes and macro codes within the text that only true believers can see. I have friends who are not believers, and I never quote or use the Bible as a reference point with them.
This video is intended for those who believe the narrative of the Bible says that Jesus isn't God. This isn't about the validity of the gospels, but moreso about what the Bible is trying to say. But I understand the confusion. I hope this clears things up! ♪⁵
The bible isnt just a book its a historical document. If you wanna study dinosaurs books are a good source. The proof is archeology. The archeology of the bible is a thing as well. Ancient historical times are learned in archeology and documentation.
It’s because Jesus is God manifested in flesh. He is the image of the invisible God. For in Him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily (Colossians 2:9).
@@nataliuselyanto210 ok a book says that but a book made of man. And the other question which god because they are alot of gods if you read the Bible correctly.
Isn't it a circular argument to prove the Bible is the "Word of God" because the Bible says so, and at the same time prove that God truly exists because the Bible, says so? This sound very circular. Bible Christians have no sound basis for their belief. So where does one find reasonable proof for the inspiration of Scripture? Can someone please tell me how your soul authority (a book) is justified?
There is this thing called the internet and youtube, if you are genuine seeker, you can type evidences for the bible being the word of God and you start there and do a thorough ananlysis You can read Case for Christ by Lee Stroble and Evidences for Christianity by A T Pierson among so many others
@@gabepettinicchio7454 Ah Because Jesus is still active in Human history and hearts today Delivering from the power of sin and unclean spirits But that's subjective The bible is accurate In its diagnosis and prognosis and remedy for all human problems ESPECIALLY DEATH....because Jesus is risen indeed and you can test that for yourself.... Archeology Prophetic predictions found no where else with 100% Historical accuracy Eye witness testimony all attest to the fact Israelite history In light of the scriptures and their unique place in history bear witness to the fact the God of the bible is the True God
Are you still here? Shouldn't every Christian know the history of the Bible, incl. its year (382AD) of canonization. The name of the assembly (The Council of Rome) is credited for it. The men that should be honored, thanked, and *fully trusted* (Pope Damascus I and the 400+ bishops that were invited and played a necessary roll
@@gabepettinicchio7454 so a Christian must know all these 🙄 before they experience the power of the truth Smh And your history is super wrong....thr scriptures were already in circulation...the OT was already completed and the New was being read during the time of the apostles But you have and seem to me to not know the God of the bible personally Do you not know that to to touch God is to the touch the source of Truth itself and then you can go and study church history in that light and not the other way round That's why you come up with these dead theory of Damascus 1 etc Your source is trusting the Catholic Church not God himself in scripture Sorry for you
This is only a possible interpretation. If you see Jesus you see the Father who we all call Yahweh. Jesus is his representative and Hebrews 1 says Jesus has inherited these things. Nobone can look at another object and say it is Yahweh. They must look to Jesus. This has not been demonstrated to be salvific knowledge btw, which i think is the main issue. It seems like the first half of the video is leaning this way since the "plain things are the main things."
If you represent someone's husband, can you then perform the signature acts of the husband? (Example, marriage, sleeping in the same bed together, being the father of their children). You can't. Those are acts specific to the actual husband / Father. Likewise, Jesus is doing the signature acts that Yahweh alone does, which is why in Hebrews 1, the Father directly applies Psalm 102:25-27 (a text about Yahweh) to Jesus and says that this is about Jesus, showing that Jesus is that Yahweh who created the heavens & the earth.
@@100_1OO________1 Jesus represents AND inherits from the Father as opposed to just represent as your example demonstrates. When a Son inherits from a Father he also gets his name. All authority Jesus has was GIVEN to him by the Father. This is not debatable, the scripture is clear on that matter.
@@Marvin-zv6md This shows you didn’t read my comment and decided to repeat your original comment. You’re referring to Jesus receiving the name after his resurrection, which DOES NOT account for him performing the signature acts of Yahweh alone PRIOR to the resurrection such as creating the heavens and the earth, sustaining life, being that source of all life, being the source of light, and the list goes on. You’re not getting it and you’re conflating his post resurrection exhalation with his divine actions prior to the incarnation. So this time, actually address my points and don’t just repeat yourself.
@@100_1OO________1 The bible makes it clear that these things were created THROUGH Jesus BY the Father. I don't understand why Trinitarians ignore this distinction.
@@100_1OO________1 Some argue that ot was Jesus at the burning bush. I have no problem with that because it says "the angel of the Lord" which many believe refers to Jesus in the Old Testament. But this in no way means that Jesus did not receive his authority.
There is a difference between the Chruch, born again believers in Christ, and the Jews. The Jews will be here during The time of Jacobs trouble. They are chosen for a different destiny than the church. It's why there is a differential between the judaizers (Jews). They wanted to keep Gentiles under the law and be circumcised and do good works to be saved.. Paul came back to Israel to put a stop to that. It is why Jews/Israel was blinded spiritually to bring about the salvation of the Gentiles by Grace. While Jews can come to Christ, and trust in HIs Gospel most still in Judaism do not believe Jesus is the Messiah. But, in Zechariah. they will know whom they have pierced and morn for HIm. Why? Because like Thomas, they won't believe untl they have seen Him with His wounds. Gentiles believe before we have seen, or for a sign. It's why all born again believers should pray for the peace of Israel, and bless them, because through them, we have received Jesus the Christ for our redemption.
You keep wanting to have the Trinitarian argument and fight with other Christians... then anyone who disagrees with you isn't "saved". I see evidence on both sides on this matter... but your focus is trying to bash other Christians who don't see it your way.
Your translation of Hebrews 1 isn’t good. It’s misleading and that’s why you interpret it incorrectly. It is better rendered as: 7And of the angels it says, who makes his angels as winds, and his ministers as a flaming fire, 8but of the Son it says, Your throne is God forever and ever, and the scepter of uprightness is the scepter of your kingdom. 9You have loved righteousness and hated lawlessness. Therefore God, your God, has anointed you with the oil of gladness rather than your companions. 10And, You, Lord, in the beginning laid the foundation of the earth, and the heavens are the works of your hands. God isn’t speaking in verses 7ff. It’s the author referencing to what the scripture says. In verses 8-9, the author is quoting from Psalm 45 which if we read the psalm in its entirety we will notice the distinction made between the king Messiah and God. God blesses and anoints this king messiah, a “son of men” (verse 2). Verse 4 says, “And in Your majesty ride prosperously because of truth, humility, and righteousness; And Your right hand shall teach You awesome things.” Therefore, the psalmist addresses God (not the king) in verses 6-7 giving the reason why God anoints this king. God loves righteousness and hates wickedness and thus anoints the king because he too loves righteousness. Thus, the creation account given in the next verses (10-11) are also about the Father, and the NEW CREATION is established by the Son. There’s much more to say but that should do for now.
You're talking nonsense, Doesn't the same verses say of the SON that He is Creator, Sustainer and Will Change All Things, who created All things according to the OT, is it not YAHWEH, didnt you read Verses 1 - 4, smh Repent of this antichrist attitude towards the Eternal Son of God, who is Himself in Nature God
@@chibuezeughanze1121everything was created THROUGH the Son not BY the Son. Jesus INHERITED a name above all names. Don't make these issues salvific knowledge when the scripture does not.
@@Marvin-zv6md is this not just insane wicked eisegesis Colossians said he is the active agent Through is even a stronger than word than by For The Son did it It came through him What else other than God can be a channel to hold and channel Infinite Power Stop this your wickedness and antichrist spirit against Jesus christ anf repent Ask him to reveal himself to you lest you perish because you denied him his rightful Place as Lord of All Creator of the Heavens and the Earth
It is a salvific issue Who so ever doesn't obey worship or submit to the Son will perish What you believe about Jesus is everything He is the Chief One and center of the entire New Creation Be warned
@@chibuezeughanze1121I did read verses 1-4. Verse 3b-4 says: “sat down at the right hand of the Majesty on high, having become so much better than the angels, as He has by inheritance obtained a more excellent name than they.” Hebrews 1:3b-4 Here’s the bottom line picture that you COMPLETELY lose sight of when insist that this passage is about Jesus being YHWH. This passage about HOW Jesus “had BECOME so much better than the angels.” If the authors intent was to say that Jesus is YHWH he has gone completely the wrong way about it and makes no sense to premise every argument with how he sat down at the right hand of the “Majesty on High” BECOMING greater than the angels thus “by inheritance obtained a more excellent name than they.” I mean, if he was YHWH then he ALREADY had a greater name then them. If you’re God there’s nothing more to inherit.
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That's why so many CHH artists who are known for their knowledge of the scripture have been falling away from the faith; they have the head knowledge but haven't developed a relationship with God
CHH and CCM artists alike.
CHH?
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Love that God Logic was on! More convos with him please. :)
yeah he was on point with this one.
Please keep going in on the nature of God topic, this is good stuff!
He Is He Was He Will be Amen!🙏🏿💗✝️🕊
This is the fall of man wanting the tree of the knowledge of good and evil rather than depending on relationship with The God that walked with them. God bless you brothers Eduardo and Avery and Ruslan
Amen! That’s what i see too.
Praise God for the wisdom he gives
Haha that is so on point that sometimes we tend to want a new word and new revelation. And what happens to me personally when i don’t know what to read and just open the Bible randomly, i often open the same spot, and it’s the same with paper and app versions. So i figured, God probably wants to drill the Word in me so that i would finally start applying it in my life. And what is interesting that the Word is as if written personally to me, because it talks about things that i am struggling with. So even though i have read the same passage many times, if i open it again i read it again and i try to apply it again. Repetition is very important when forming habits, thats what God is teaching me at least.
Blessing from Québec Canada amen.
God bless you there man. I’m in Ontario. How is it living out the faith in Quebec?
This is golden! Praise God!
I took A college level course on Gnosticism, When we speak of the secret knowledge we should be very specific for two reasons on which kind of knowledge and what the knowledge was. Because Gnosticism was not one thing , it was a broad term
And second each gnostic sect had an idea about a certain knowledge about something. Because when we don’t specify, anyone can just claim whatever knowledge you have which can be legit, is gnostics.
One strand that pervades it is that gnostics rebelled against the church structure and what they taught saying a certain apostle had given them this knowledge. The most significant being the antisemitic idea that the God of Israel was the evil creator God who trapped is in bodies , so flesh is wicked while spiritual thought is good . Theres a whole story behind it and complex systems but thats it in a nutshell
Jesus is LORD
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I became a believer with zero Biblical knowledge. But for me, the greatest proof that Jesus is God is within the micro and macro codes within the Biblical text. The most specific one is in Genesis 5. These codes verify that what is in the Bible is outside the dimensions of time and space. Prophecies also play a big role in establishing the Bible as God's Word. Because that leaves only two options. Option #1 is that the Bible is from God and option #2 is that someone, with a Delorean and a flux capacitor in ancient times went to the future, watched events happen, then went back in time to have someone write about it. I'm betting on option #1.
Scholars do not call the Bible God's Word. Who would call the Bible that when it has so many mistakes?
Dr. W Graham Scroggie of the Moody Bible institute, Chicago, one of the most prestigious Christian evangelical missions in the world says on page 17 of his book “It is human, yet divine”: “...Yes, the Bible is human, although some out of zeal which is not according to knowledge, have denied this. Those books have passed through the minds of men, are
written in the language of men, were penned by the hands of men and bear in their style the characteristics of men....”
Another erudite Christian scholar, Kenneth Cragg, the Anglican Bishop of Jerusalem, says on page 277 of his book, “The call of the minaret”: “.....Not so the New testament....... There is condensation and editing; there is choice reproduction and witness. The Gospels have come through the mind of the church behind the authors. They represent experience and history.....”
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This is a good crew. Love these break downs.
The best way to know, is to go see for oneself. Pray to the unseen Father to know him, and it will be done.
I'm just glad we got some really smart Christians.
GodLogic one of the best Apologetic out there!!!✝️
Thanks for sharing 🙏🏾
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Nowhere not once in the Synoptic Gospels of Matthew, Mark, and Luke does Jesus say he is God. He does talk about himself as the Son of Man; he says he must be killed and raised from the dead, and he admits he is the messiah. Only in the gospel of John(written decades later) does Jesus claim to be God. To think that our 3 earliest gospel writers(and their sources) would fail to mention that fact is truly incredible.
I will beg to differ....literally the author Mark in the first chapter let's us know Jesus is God
@@thomasjoat2396 We could argue on good evidence that the author of Mark depicts Jesus as divine, but nowhere does it explicitly state that he is Yahweh. My claim is that Jesus never calls himself God until our last gospel of John, written about 70 years after the events it describes. Why would the other writers leave that out? Seems like a pretty important thing to leave out…
What? 😅 Jesus says it all over the gospels that he is the son of Man, Son of God, and gives many parables and scriptures that Jesus fulfills as the LORD God said he would do in the Torah. Just to name a few.
Matthew 3:17, Matthew 9:2-7, Matthew 10:32-33, Matthew 11:27-30, Matthew 14:33, Matthew 16:13-17, Matthew 28:19,
Mark 1:3 (compare this to Isaiah 40:3-5 which John the Baptist did) Mark 2:10, Mark 2:27 etc. I didn’t even get into Luke.
Isaiah 9:6-7
Jesus is the one true God !!
Jesus the the Father is the only true God at John 17:3
@@Sirach144Have you read John 17:6 and John 17:26? Still within the same chapter
There is one true God, the Father. He is our God and the God of Jesus.
“About eating food sacrificed to idols, then, we know that “an idol is nothing in the world,” and that “there is no God but one.” For even if there are so-called gods, whether in heaven or on earth - as there are many “gods” and many “Lords” - yet for us there is one God, the Father. All things are from him, and we exist for him. And there is one Lord, Jesus Christ. All things are through him, and we exist through him.”
1 Corinthians 8:4-6
If you're using this verse to exclude Jesus from being God then you have to use this verse to Exclude the Father from being Lord. Jesus cannot be our Savior and not Be God. That would be blasphemy. God makes it very clear thier is no Savior besides him. In the book of Isaiah 43:11 and Hosea 13:4 . If Jesus is not God then we're all in danger. We're all dead in sin. Jesus is our Savior because he is both Man and God. He cannot be anything less. But I don't think Unitarians understand that.
@@matthewtheron2505hallelujah!
@@matthewtheron2505
God sent a savior to save the remnant of Israel, and all those who believe in him. And in the same way, God sent a savior to Israel, to save them for the Syrians.
“Then the Lord gave Israel a savior, so that they escaped from under the hand of the Syrians; and the children of Israel dwelt in their tents as before.”
II Kings 13:5
“And the Lord did not say that He would blot out the name of Israel from under heaven; but He saved them by the hand of Jeroboam the son of Joash.”
II Kings 14:27
And yet Hosea is still correct to say:
“Yet I am the Lord your God Ever since the land of Egypt, And you shall know no God but Me; For there is no savior besides Me.”
Hosea 13:4
In every case, including Jesus, it’s called agency.
There is no verse to suggest that the messiah has to be also God not that we must believe him to be God.
@@crem004 1 Corinthians 8:6 doesn't work for a multitude of reasons. As the person above pointed out, to use this in order to exclude Jesus from the category of God is to simultaneously exclude the Father from the category of Lord. It's an inconsistent argument. Secondly, Paul's usage of "one Lord (heis kyrios)" correlates to Jesus' usage of Deuteronomy 6:4 in Mark 12:29 where he says "kyrios heis estin". Saying "kyrios heis" / "heis kyrios" is the Jewish way of saying Yahweh is one. And in 1 Corinthians 8:6, that's applied to Jesus, showing that Jesus is that one Yahweh, alongside the Father. So your argument back-fires and proves Jesus is God Almighty.
@@crem004 Jesus himself says if you don't believe that he is The " I Am He" you will die in your sins. That's not my words but his. Thiers no way around that. Imagine David or Moses used terms only applicable to God. That would be absolute blasphemy for mere men to say things only God can say. They would be killed immediately. And that's just one of the things he said. And if God says their is no savior besides him...theirs no savior besides him. Only he can save his people. Sure his used mere men to save his people. I get that. But when it comes to the souls of all mankind. Their no savior besides him. He himself came down and saved his people. All of us! Not just his people but all man kind. Because its not just Israel that's at stake. It's the soul of all man kind at stake. And even away from those verses. If those verses don't suggest Jesus having to be God...Fine. It still becomes nearly impossible to deny the deity of Christ. The agent himself is God manifested in the Flesh.
I mean when Jesus is called God by his own disciples and by the Father himself. I don't get how much clearer you want it. The evidence is overwhelming. Even his enemies acknowledged his deity. They wanted him dead because of it!
I've now looked at more than enough arguments and verses from Unitarians trying to be open to the idea that hey maybe Jesus is not God. Because if I'm wrong I want to cling to what's true. But the more I look the more difficult it get's to deny his Deity and to deny the Triunity of God.
In fact you're walking on dangerous ground when doing so. If you deny the Son and his deity you deny the Father.
And I don't want to do that. Nor do I want my brother and sister in Christ to do that either. We can argue about this and that. This doctrine or that doctrine. But when it comes to the Deity of Christ it's a non-negotiable.
Personally I just use Bible verses to prove Jesus's divinity like Hebrews 1:3 and the entire first chapter lol of Hebrews, Colossians 2:9, Philippians 2:5-6, John 10:30, John 1:1 and the most solid one for me which being John 8:58 which all affirm that Jesus is God Almighty. Good Video and Praise the Lord.
only God can forgive sins but Jesus forgives them too. either Jesus is a lunatic that has managed to be the greatest deceiver of all time or is one with God
All proof texts taken out of context to fit an erroneous narrative.
One with God obv
@@crem004 nope inaccurate all proof texts are not taken out of contexts and are actually supported by the context and are clear and supported with scholarly evidence so pls stop being dishonest
@@nickcalma222scholars are a dime a dozen whom all are blinded by their own presuppositions and bias towards their own perspective. You can find scholars in every corner of beliefs.
Pray that Young Don be convicted and convinced of the non-Trinitarian errors he has made 🙏🏼
Sheesh...Radar was cookin!
This was sooo good! Thank you!
And the magistrate ask’d him, Good Rebbe what must I do to be worthy of the Life [to come] ? And ‘ho Iesous’ answer’d him saying ‘Don’t you EVER call me ‘good’ !!! That is an epithet reserv’d for the Holy One of Yisro’el alone !! But if you really wish to be worthy of the Life [to come] obey ev’ry precept of Torah - don’t murder, don’t steal, don’t lie in court, don’t defraud your clients etc.’ see Mark 10:18ff
It seems that R. Yehoshua bar Yosef the Galilean (BCE 13/12 to 35/36 CE) identified himself with the barEnasha (‘son of man’ see Aramaic Daniel 7:13-26) in many places in the (4) canonical Greek gospels …
I have something stronger than proof its called Faith.
That's what everyone has but it has to be based on evidence; otherwise, everyone has proof for what they believe despite those beliefs being different. We worship God the way HE says to worship Him and He sent us prophets and messengers to tell us exactly who He was and how to worship Him. It is not on us to just believe whatever we want. We do so upon proofs.
That’s dope ! Thank you for having these two on! Fighting the good fight
“They said to one another, “Were not our hearts burning within us while He was speaking to us on the road, while He was explaining the Scriptures to us?””
Luke 24:32
God bless you gentlemen , and peace be with you . Onwards Christian soldiers . Jesus Christ is the way , the truth , and life !
Great conversation but can we acknowledge how amazing this camera is producing 👏🏾
I love the way this was laid out.
Honestly, I'm relatively critical of godlogic - mostly as I consider his content to be more divisive then uniting.
Him and Radar were on point to the point where I am reconsidering my own non trinitarian ways - to a degree.
I think you should have Sean Griffin from Kingdom In Context on your show Ruslan, to give a coherent and well researched voice to the other side of the trinity debate.
Love this type of content. Diving deeep, educating. Gby all
This was amazing! I NEED MORE!
Flexxing on that Hebrew logic lol. I'm a Jew who believes in Christ and follows Christianity, and I applaud any Christian who takes the time to learn the Hebrew, 'cause the Hebrew confirms Yeshua as the Christ and as God!
Psalms 119:53
Horror hath taken hold upon me because of the wicked that forsake thy law.
He's right about people going to Rabbinic Judaism. I know plenty of people who are in this ideology. One of them wanted my mom (she crochets) to make a tsetse even. He wore a shirt that had a Hebrew word and then a translation. My pastor, who was going through Hebrew at the time, said, you know, it's actually this. He hasn't been to my church since. They have weird thoughts on scripture.
more of this type of information ❤ God bless you all 🙏😊
Ah Godlogic, great to see you on here!
Hebrews 1 is also referencing psalm 110 1The LORD says to my Lord:
“Sit at my right hand,
until I make your enemies your footstool.”
2The LORD sends forth from Zion
your mighty scepter.
Rule in the midst of your enemies!
3Your people will offer themselves freely
on the day of your power,a
in holy garments;b
from the womb of the morning,
the dew of your youth will be yours.c
4The LORD has sworn
and will not change his mind,
“You are a priest forever
after the order of Melchizedek.”
5The Lord is at your right hand;
he will shatter kings on the day of his wrath.
6He will execute judgment among the nations,
filling them with corpses;
he will shatter chiefsd
over the wide earth.
7He will drink from the brook by the way;
therefore he will lift up his head.
Amazing video. Someone needs to show young Don this
Matthew 3:17 And a voice from heaven said, “This is my Son, whom I love; with him I am well pleased.”
Matthew 17:5 5 While he was still speaking, a bright cloud covered them, and a voice from the cloud said, “This is my Son, whom I love; with him I am well pleased. Listen to him!”
That voice is God/Yahweh, informing us as to who Jesus is. And he doesn't introduce Jesus to us as God, but as his son. God say's Jesus is his son, not God. I would think what God say's should be sufficient, and trump any misinterpretation being pushed by well meaning pastors and teachers.
Corinthians1 3 Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, the Father of mercies and God of all comfort,
The author of this book, under the influence of the Holy Spirit conveyed the hierarchy of authority in Heaven by stating that God is the Father of our Lord Jesus Christ.
1John 18 No one has seen God at any time. The only begotten Son, who is in the bosom of the Father, He has declared Him.
A clear distinction is made here as to who Jesus is in relation to God.
1Corinthians 8:6 Yet for us there is one God, the Father, from whom are all things and for whom we exist, and one Lord, Jesus Christ, through whom are all things and through whom we exist.
1Timothy 2:5 For there is one God and one mediator between God and mankind, the man Christ Jesus, Matthew 28:18 And Jesus came and said to them, “All authority in heaven and on earth has been given to me.
Matthew 11:27. All things have been handed over to me by my Father, and no one knows the Son except the Father, and no one knows the Father except the Son and anyone to whom the Son chooses to reveal him.
John 3:35. The Father loves the Son and has given all things into his hand.
What's being communicated in these verses is that Jesus has no authority other than that which has been given him by our Father. If he were God, he would not need to have any authority bestowed upon him.
Who rescued the Israelites out of Egypt? God.
For certain people have crept in unnoticed who long ago were designated for this condemnation, ungodly people, who pervert the grace of our God into sensuality and deny our only Master and Lord, Jesus Christ. Now I want to remind you, although you once fully knew it, that Jesus, who saved a people out of the land of Egypt, afterward destroyed those who did not believe. And the angels who did not stay within their own position of authority, but left their proper dwelling, he has kept in eternal chains under gloomy darkness until the judgment of the great day-
Jude 1:4-6 ESV
“Then I will pour out a spirit of grace and prayer on the house of David and the residents of Jerusalem, and they will look at me whom they pierced. They will mourn for him as one mourns for an only child and weep bitterly for him as one weeps for a firstborn.
Zechariah 12:10 CSB
Then they cried out to the Lord in their trouble, and he brought them out of their distress. He stilled the storm to a whisper, and the waves of the sea were hushed. They rejoiced when the waves grew quiet. Then he guided them to the harbor they longed for.
Psalms 107:28-30 CSB
He got up, rebuked the wind, and said to the sea, “Silence! Be still!” The wind ceased, and there was a great calm.
Mark 4:39 CSB
For a child will be born for us, a son will be given to us, and the government will be on his shoulders. He will be named Wonderful Counselor, Mighty God, Eternal Father, Prince of Peace.
Isaiah 9:6 CSB
In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. He was with God in the beginning. All things were created through him, and apart from him not one thing was created that has been created.
John 1:1-3
For everything was created by him, in heaven and on earth, the visible and the invisible, whether thrones or dominions or rulers or authorities - all things have been created through him and for him.
Colossians 1:16 CSB
@@DuzzinsSama Why didn't you address any of the scriptures I posted? If I were attempting to rebut a post from you, I'd start with addressing whatever it is you posted specifically. Then I would make my counter argument afterward. I ask you to do the same.
I will rebut only two of your assertions for now, until you do as I've asked.
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Jude 1:5 Though you already know all this, I want to remind you that the Lord at one time delivered his people out of Egypt, but later destroyed those who did not believe.
The correct translation is Lord, not Jesus. You'll see this reflected in the KJV, NIV, and NKJV.
Regarding Isaiah 9:6
The correct translation is “everlasting father”.. “Father” was being used in the cultural understanding of either one who was the first to do something or someone who was important in some way. Because the Messiah will be the one to establish the age to come, raise the dead into it, and rule over it, he is called “the father of the coming age.”
“Mighty God”.. is better translated “Mighty Hero”.. The exact same word for God in this verse was also used for the Babylonian king in Ezekiel. We both know he isn't God, nor is he a god.
@devinnichols1514 perhaps I could have done that but the Trinity is non negotiable. The Jude passage, earliest manuscript contains Jesus. Also who is the Lord mentioned right before mentioning the Lord? Paul makes the same assertion that it was Jesus. Jesus himself says Moses wrote of him.
@@DuzzinsSama Our conversation is done.. You don't get to dictate the terms of this exchange. Especially when you're unwilling to have an actual exchange. In the future, if you attempt to rebut a point of view that you don't agree with, do it respectfully. Address what's communicated, then present your references with your perspective.
@devinnichols1514 well I pray you read those scriptures for yourself, my friend. There is only one Lord. Not two Lords in heaven. There is only the Lord Jesus Christ.
That was an awesome breakdown of scripture!❤
Calling JC God is blasphemous.
He is the son, the only one to truly be created in his image
jesus is Son of god , and god the father dwells within him like all of us. Jesus made it clear his goodness comes from his father
Yud He Vav He My Elohim.(BFA)🙏🏿💗✝️🌺🕊
Psalms ch.83:18KJV"That men may know that thou, whose name alone is JEHOVAH, art the most high over all the earth."
So according to The scriptures there is but one person called JEHOVAH and this one person exhaust the category of most high God.
According to the trinity doctrine there are three other subjects that are at least equal to Jesus therefore the Trinitarian Jesus is not the JEHOVAH of the bible.
God Almighty, the One true God, the Most High God
BEAUTIFUL!
This was great! 🙂… The quest for knowledge isn’t the spirit of Gnosticism though. The Holy Spirit is the spirit of knowledge, wisdom & council. The Bible is big on getting understanding & growing in knowledge & wisdom. That’s why Jesus was studying at 12. Gnostics believe the earth is fundamentally evil, that there’s 2 gods & one is the god of the material, and that Jesus couldn’t be a man because the material is is innately evil. In doing so, they error they miss that all things made by God are good & that Go dwells with us. Yes, the material is a little less important just because it’s temporal & doesn’t satisfy. But it is not evil. It’s the creation & artwork of God. Gnostics took that to a whole other level. That’s important to differentiate because in demonizing gaining understanding or wisdom of your own beliefs, you give Christianity cult values. And Christianity is not a cult. There is freedom here. You are encouraged by God to seek, understanding & get both wisdom and conviction. That’s an important differentiator because most people who leave the faith… leave because they were never taught to talk to God about the hard things.
This is awesome!
You should invite Rabbi Tovia Singer as a guest on your show
I am who I am
is the English version of this and absolutely confirms current personal and eternal existence
I will be what I will be, is not current personal or eternal, only futuristic
Please be careful when translating these words
Scripture confirms Yahweh is personal and eternal, past present future, to translate it the way you speak of it into English removes the personal and eternal aspect of the phrase
Your overthinking it
I am who I am
People in heaven have seen Jesus but not God yet
John ch.8:50NIV"I am not seeking glory for myself; but there is one who seeks it, and he is the judge. "
I Can't even conceive of Almighty God JEHOVAH Saying something like this.
“I am the Alpha and the Omega-the beginning and the end,” says the Lord God. “I am the one who is, who always was, and who is still to come-the Almighty One.”
Revelation 1:8 NLT
And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: God was manifest in the flesh, justified in the Spirit, seen of angels, preached unto the Gentiles, believed on in the world, received up into glory.
1 Timothy 3:16 KJV
@@nirvashneenaidu8570 referring to the God and Father of Jesus.
@@nirvashneenaidu8570 1Timothy ch.3:16NIV"Beyond all question, the mystery from which true godliness springs is great:
He appeared in the flesh,
was vindicated by the Spirit, d
was seen by angels,
was preached among the nations,
was believed on in the world,
was taken up in glory.Beyond all question, the mystery from which true godliness springs is great:
He appeared in the flesh,
was vindicated by the Spirit, d
was seen by angels,
was preached among the nations,
was believed on in the world,
was taken up in glory."
Hermeneutics 101 we never use a disputed text as a prooftext.
Do you believe the LORD of the Old Testament is only referring to the Father ?
So are yall saying unitarians don’t have the Holy Spirit?
Greetings, May I ask based upon what do you believe verse 10 is in reference to Jesus?
Is it safe to say the fallen Angels and Satan who knew God’s knowledge for being in his presence; twisted this knowledge to fool the masses and be in bondage to the things of the world & the schemes of the enemy?
Young don reborn need to see this
No, he’s right. The Trinity is false, it’s not stated explicitly in the Bible that Jesus is God. Jesus is the son of God, even he prayed to God. Also it’s not possible for Jesus to be 100% human and 100% God, Jesus himself prayed to the Father, the one and only God.
I must have missed the part where y’all explained God was talking about Jesus because it seems y’all just said that and than slid pass the explanation
Not true. Jesus even after his resurrection Jesus said “I am ascending to MY GOD AND YOUR GOD.” Jesus was no longer in the form of a servant. Therefore, the whole argument fell apart.
The Tetragrammaton doesn’t get used at Psalm 102 when being quoted at Hebrews 1:10-12. Paul is quoting the Septuagint. Also, we have to realize that just because the passage in the Old Testament is apply to Jesus doesn’t mean that that is talking about him. For example, in Psalm 45. God is talking about David but then it’s apply to Jesus. Is Jesus David? No
That was good
Yahuah (god) says Yahusha is his son. Yahusha says Yahuah is his father and his god. Christianity says they are liars.
The Trinity is false, it’s not stated explicitly in the Bible that Jesus is God. Jesus is the son of God, even he prayed to God. Also it’s not possible for Jesus to be 100% human and 100% God, Jesus himself prayed to the Father, the one and only God.
@@Chasing-Truth I don't see how people can't understand what you said. It's clearly written for us. Have you ever read "The ascension of Isaiah" brother? Chapter 4 explains why the trinity doctrine is being preached. Non canonical but anyone that has the Holy Spirit will have no problem seeing if it's legit or not.
@@Bouncer83 I skimmed through the book and read Chapter 4 after reading your reply, I had no idea this book existed but it seems to be accurate. Chapter 4 confirms the prophecies in Revelation.
@@Bouncer83
Are trinitarians and Christendom preaching in over 100s of languages that JWs are doing?
And how the heck can u preach something that so confusing even theologians dont understand it and they have a degree
Gbu all
Christians say that God is "immutable", i.e. unchanging. How then can it be said that He passed through the state of death? How could He grow in knowledge? (Luke 2:52). When we forgive a debt it means that we expect no payment. "The Lord's Prayer" asks God to forgive our debts the way we forgive our debtors. Why then does Jesus' have to pay a price for our sins?
Because Jesus is God. God pays for the debt. He explained in great detail how he made a body which could be the sacrifice. Jesus is the image of the invisible God. When you see him you’ve seen the father. Read Philippians 2:7-10
@@GraceAbove223 God set a price and then paid it himself? What's the point of us being here then?
God looks like a Palestinian Jew? Wasn't it said no one see God and live? How did all the people see Jesus then and not die and if they saw Jesus and Jesus is God, then God wasn't invisible.
@@nunya54 The Spirit of God is invisible. The image of God is Jesus who is visible. God is Holy and a Spirit so he’s a Holy Spirit. Jesus is the Way Truth and Life so until he came as a man lived as a man we couldn’t not connect to him. The sacrifice was what bridged us to him in his death. The whole point of the New covenant is to tear down the barriers between us in spirit. As to why God did it this way? I guess because he is God and can. I don’t question his motives I just learn from what he’s told us. You have to look at this with both physical and spiritual eyes. We are made of Body(Soma)Soul(Pseuke)mind will and emotions, and Spitit(pneuma). God is a Body(Jesus )Soul(God, Mind, will and emotions)and spirit(omnipresence, omnipotent, and omniscient) the Bible is showing you God trough different modes in which he operates. Son means he’s from God( eternally Jesus is God) temporarily with a human body he was a man who had blood that was shed for you and I. He made himself of no reputation so he could be in obedience to death. God would not have been just to not suffer as we do and feel our burdens. He had to take on sin to conquer sin for everyone.Colossians 1:15, John14:9Colossians 2:9.
@@nunya54 The point of us being here is to Follow the example. To show people love whether they love you or not. To be kind to be giving to show people Gods qualities trough our actions.
@@GraceAbove223 That's all unfounded. That is not from God or Jesus.
C'mon God Logic! 🔥🔥🔥
Is Jesus Almighty God?
Common answers:
▪ “Yes, Jesus is God Almighty.”
▪ “Jesus was the manifestation of God in the flesh.”
What did Jesus say?
▪ “If you loved me, you would rejoice that I am going my way to the Father, because the Father is greater than I am.” (John 14:28) Jesus acknowledged that he and his Father are not equals.
▪ “I am ascending to my Father and your Father and to my God and your God.” (John 20:17) Jesus did not speak of himself as God but spoke of God as a separate Person.
“I have not spoken out of my own impulse, but the Father himself who sent me has given me a commandment as to what to tell and what to speak.” (John 12:49) Jesus’ teachings did not come from him; they came from the Father.
JESUS claimed to be the Son of God, not Almighty God. If Jesus were God, to whom was he praying while here on earth? (Matthew 14:23; 26:26-29) Surely Jesus was not just pretending to talk to someone else!
When two of Jesus’ disciples asked him for special positions in his Kingdom, he answered: “This sitting down at my right hand and at my left is not mine to give, but it belongs to those for whom it has been prepared by my Father.” (Matthew 20:23) Was Jesus telling them a lie when he stated that he did not have the authority to grant their request? Hardly! Rather, he humbly acknowledged that only God has the authority to make such decisions. Jesus even explained that there were some things that neither he nor the angels knew but that were known only by his Father.-Mark 13:32.
Was Jesus lower than God only while he was a man here on earth? No. Even after his death and resurrection, Jesus is described in the Bible as being subordinate to God. The apostle Paul reminds us that “God is supreme over Christ.” (1 Corinthians 11:3, Today’s English Version) The Bible says that in the future “when all things have been placed under Christ’s rule, then he himself, the Son, will place himself under God, who placed all things under him; and God will rule completely over all.”-1 Corinthians 15:28, TEV.
Clearly, Jesus is not God Almighty. That is why he spoke of his Father as “my God.”-Revelation 3:2, 12; 2 Corinthians 1:3, 4.
Numbers ch.23:19NIV"God is not human, that he should lie,
not a human being, that he should change his mind.
Does he speak and then not act?
Does he promise and not fulfill?"
So if your God is or ever was human he is not THE JEHOVAH Of scripture.
Jesus was sinless so these verses don't apply to him because this verse talks about God never changing his mind. If you read Hebrews 13:8 that verse says that Jesus is the same yesterday, today and forever. Jesus is God and God never changes.
@@nirvashneenaidu8570 Jesus was a man and God is not /never a man
Acts ch.2:22NIV"“Fellow Israelites, listen to this: Jesus of Nazareth was a MAN accredited by God to you by miracles, wonders and signs, which God did among you through him, as you yourselves know."
The verse has nothing to do with sin but with the limits that all men are subject to. A man might sincerely pledge to do a thing but because of his limitations as a creature he might end up unable to fulfill his pledge ,this is never the case with the creator.
Hebrews ch.13:9NIV"Do not be carried away by all kinds of strange teachings.." The doctrine about Christ cannot be altered by men ,yesterday does not mean the eternal past.
Hosea ch.11:9NIV"I will not carry out my fierce anger,
nor will I devastate Ephraim again.
For I am God, and not a MAN...."
It is impossible for JEHOVAH to ever be/become a man.
Is the LORD of Hosts the Father or Christ ?
@@nirvashneenaidu8570 acts ch.3:13NIV"The God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob, the God of our fathers, has glorified his servant Jesus. You handed him over to be killed, and you disowned him before Pilate, though he had decided to let him go. "
According to scripture JEHOVAH is the God, Lord and Father of Jesus Christ.
I think this Hebrews argument might be a case of special pleading. There are lots of Old Testament references applied to Jesus in the book of Hebrews, and most of the original subjects are people other than Yahweh. For example, in the first 2 Chapters there are 10 Old Testament references applied to Jesus. Three of those were originally about Yahweh, yeah. But the rest were originally about Israelite Kings, David himself, Solomon, and one of them is about mankind in general (Psalm 8). Why should we think the author of Hebrews is trying to tell us that Jesus is Yahweh when he quotes Psalm 102, but that he's NOT trying to tell us Jesus is Solomon when he quotes 2 Samuel 7. In Heb 2:13-15, the author quotes several passages as if they are Jesus speaking, but those things were originally spoken by David, and by Isaiah, respectively. Is he trying to tell us that Jesus is actually Isaiah? No, we understand that the author is using familiar old testament language to describe true things about Jesus. I don't think we should assume the author is trying to identify Jesus as any one of these characters (whether it's David, Solomon, Isaiah, or Yahweh). Rather, he's trying to tell us something important about Jesus, using familiar old testament language. I think a careful reading of the book of Hebrews will reveal that Jesus and the One True God are considered two different characters in this book.
He is him.
Show some respect!
Is jesus almighty God ?
The Bible’s answer
Jesus’ opposers accused him of making himself equal to God. (John 5:18; 10:30-33) However, Jesus never claimed to be on the same level as Almighty God. He said: “The Father is greater than I am.”-John 14:28.
Jesus’ early followers did not view him as being equal to Almighty God. For example, the apostle Paul wrote that after Jesus was resurrected, God “exalted him [Jesus] to a superior position.” Obviously, Paul did not believe that Jesus was Almighty God. Otherwise, how could God exalt Jesus to a superior position? -Philippians 2:9.
Man this is good
The three pairs each consist of a conjunctive clause "for/and" followed by an adversative clause "but", as follows:
First pair - V5 ("for" to which of the angels)
V6 ("yet/but" when He brings His firstborn)
Second pair - V7 ("and" of the angels He[it] says)
V8 ("but" of the son)
Third pair - V10 ("and" you, Lord laid the foundations)
V13 ("but" to which of the angels)
Looking at the conjunctions then, we see:
V5 - "γὰρ"... V6 - "δὲ"
V7 -" Καὶ"... V8 -" δὲ"
V10 - "Καὶ"... V13 - "δὲ"
Why is this important? Because it shows clearly that the author of Hebrews is NOT appropriating Psalm 102:25-27 to be a reference to Jesus. V10 doesn't say "and He also says of the son". Verses 10-12 are the declaration that YHWH's throne remains forever. Verse 13 then adds, "BUT to which of the angels has He ever said 'Sit at my right hand.’” In other words, God's throne remains (even when this present age passes away) and He has never made an angel to be "heir of all things" over the age to come. Only to "the Son,” the man Jesus, has He ever made this promise.
It makes no sense for the author to make such an elaborate attempt at defending that the man Jesus the Messiah is YHWH himself. Rather, the author has proven that Jesus has become far superior to the angels-not as YWHW himself but as the Messiah and high priest YHWH promised long ago.
Amen bro..
“But to the Son He says: “Your throne, O God, is forever and ever; A scepter of righteousness is the scepter of Your kingdom. You have loved righteousness and hated lawlessness; Therefore God, Your God, has anointed You With the oil of gladness more than Your companions.” And: “You, Lord, in the beginning laid the foundation of the earth, And the heavens are the work of Your hands. They will perish, but You remain; And they will all grow old like a garment; Like a cloak You will fold them up, And they will be changed. But You are the same, And Your years will not fail.””
Hebrews 1:8-12 NKJV
The Scripture is clear, Jesus is YHWH Himself
Also if Jesus is not God, how is He perfect? Simple, He is the God Man and that is why He is perfect
Why is it that this passage always get's left out. I've seen this being done on alot of unitarian websites.
Love these guys! These are soldiers for Christ for sure! My man over there @BlessGodStudios UA-cam is getting better and better in my opinion
Where is the full video
Radar is a Jew is a messianic he is a rabbi who know Yeshua so well
Isn’t YAHWEH a pagan god? You guys just searched the translation of O Lord and it clearly shows Jehová or YAHOVA, so why are you guys continuing to pronounce it as Yahweh?
But not Stephen Furtick*
I see what you did there 😂
Maybe do a video called:How to prove the bible is true.For atheists, trying to prove things by quoting the Bible doesn't answer any questions.Just think y'all.
Using Hebrews Chapter 1 to try to prove the claim that Jesus is God is a bad chapter to prove it. There’s plenty of other places in the Bible you’ll have better luck supporting such belief.
If Jesus is GOD....,Literally, than just WHO and WHAT is, GOD the FATHER?
The father is Jehovah God
Hes the almighty God
Jesus is Gods son
Gaaaadlaaaagik!
Mormonism is Gnosticism
Nice but the Hebrew word is Adonai. Nobody speaks Gods real name because it is too holy so I suggest keeping it holy and not saying it 'les man turn to corrupt his name as we have already corrupted the word "God"
It's sad the book of John is about Jesus being God and showing his diety how people don't see that is sad and you don't need to know Greek or Hebrew to see that
By this logic, Moses and judge Gideon must be almighty God.
Isaiah ch.10:26NIV"26The LORD Almighty will lash them with a whip,
as when he struck down Midian at the rock of Oreb;
and he will raise his staff over the waters,
as he did in Egypt."
We all know who it was who lifted his rod over sea at the time of Israel's escape from Egypt.
Exodus ch.14:15,16NIV"Then the LORD said to Moses, “Why are you crying out to me? Tell the Israelites to move on. 16Raise your staff and stretch out your hand over the sea to divide the water so that the Israelites can go through the sea on dry ground. "
So ironclad trinitarian style proof that Moses IS JEHOVAH.
Need more : James Ch.4:12NIV,"There is only one Lawgiver and Judge, the one who is able to save and destroy. But you-who are you to judge your neighbor?" Likely we all agree that this one lawgiver is the Lord JEHOVAH.
Well according to our Lord and saviour Moses is also lawgiver
And thus per Trinitarian logic JEHOVAH as well
John ch.7:19NIV"Has not Moses given you the law?..."
It's called the fulfillment fallacy fellas. Also there is what is called the law of agency.
In verse two of chapter one you notice that the God(not the Father) Created the world "Dia" ,from which we get the word diameter, his firstborn. Thus the firstborn is not the source of the energy and information in the creation but the instrument of that source further Just as the the giving of the law can be ascribed to both Moses and JEHOVAH with no implication that the two are identical so to the ordering of the universe can be ascribed to both JEHOVAH And his principle instrument with no implication that the two are identical
The verse mentions the LORD's rod, which is a symbol of his power and authority. This verse talks about the LORD's power and his rod as a symbol of authority, it was Moses rod, but when LORD said it was his he meant that the power from rod came from him and not moses being lord.
@@nirvashneenaidu8570we both know that if the name Jesus was in the place of the name Moses this would have been a Trinitarian prooftext. Your eisegesis is interesting but the scripture clearly shows that it was Moses rod i.e the symbol of Moses authority which was lifted up over the sea.
Let's look at the text again.
Exodus ch.14:15,16NIV"Then the LORD said to Moses, “Why are you crying out to me? Tell the Israelites to move on. 16Raise YOUR staff and stretch out YOUR hand over the sea to divide the water so that the Israelites can go through the sea on dry ground. "
The verse also mentions JEHOVAH as the one who whipped the elders of Sukkoth in the time of Gideon's defeat of Midian see judges ch.8:15,16, so as per Trinitarian logic Gideon must be JEHOVAH as well.
Again if the name in the text was Jesus this would be another trinitarian prooftext.
It's pretentious quoting the Bible to placate people who don't necessarily believe the bible.Thats the point.If someone doesn't believe in dinosaurs,you don't pick up a dinosaur book and say;Well here's the proof,this dino book says dinos existed.Your not convincing anyone but christians.
I've been a Christian for over 30 years, and I have never met anyone that became a Christian from people quoting the Bible. You are correct that for unbelievers, this is "casting pearls before swine." In most cases it is a waste of time. I would say that most Christians, me included, got saved without knowing anything about the Bible. I grew up in a home that never went to church. To the unsaved, the Word of God means nothing.
In these 30-plus years, this is what I have found out. The only parts of the Bible that are spiritually available for non-believers are the four Gospels. The remainder of the Old and New Testament are coded for believers only. A non-believer can read it, but without the Holy Spirit, much of the contents is hidden. There are both micro codes and macro codes within the text that only true believers can see. I have friends who are not believers, and I never quote or use the Bible as a reference point with them.
This video is intended for those who believe the narrative of the Bible says that Jesus isn't God. This isn't about the validity of the gospels, but moreso about what the Bible is trying to say.
But I understand the confusion. I hope this clears things up!
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The bible isnt just a book its a historical document. If you wanna study dinosaurs books are a good source. The proof is archeology. The archeology of the bible is a thing as well. Ancient historical times are learned in archeology and documentation.
A man can never be a god the creator of everything that exist.
It’s because Jesus is God manifested in flesh. He is the image of the invisible God. For in Him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily (Colossians 2:9).
@@nataliuselyanto210 ok a book says that but a book made of man. And the other question which god because they are alot of gods if you read the Bible correctly.
@@Salv5031 True. It was written by men who were inspired by God. And to answer your question, there is only one true God and His name is Jesus.
Isn't it a circular argument to prove the Bible is the "Word of God" because the Bible says so, and at the same time prove that God truly exists because the Bible, says so?
This sound very circular. Bible Christians have no sound basis for their belief. So where does one find reasonable proof for the inspiration of Scripture?
Can someone please tell me how your soul authority (a book) is justified?
There is this thing called the internet and youtube, if you are genuine seeker, you can type evidences for the bible being the word of God and you start there and do a thorough ananlysis
You can read Case for Christ by Lee Stroble and Evidences for Christianity by A T Pierson among so many others
@@chibuezeughanze1121 No, I'd like to know what your *specific* source or reason is for believing the Bible is God-inspired & why.
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Because Jesus is still active in Human history and hearts today
Delivering from the power of sin and unclean spirits
But that's subjective
The bible is accurate In its diagnosis and prognosis and remedy for all human problems ESPECIALLY DEATH....because Jesus is risen indeed and you can test that for yourself....
Archeology
Prophetic predictions found no where else with 100%
Historical accuracy
Eye witness testimony all attest to the fact
Israelite history In light of the scriptures and their unique place in history bear witness to the fact the God of the bible is the True God
Are you still here? Shouldn't every Christian know the history of the Bible, incl. its year (382AD) of canonization. The name of the assembly (The Council of Rome) is credited for it. The men that should be honored, thanked, and *fully trusted* (Pope Damascus I and the 400+ bishops that were invited and played a necessary roll
@@gabepettinicchio7454 so a Christian must know all these 🙄 before they experience the power of the truth
Smh
And your history is super wrong....thr scriptures were already in circulation...the OT was already completed and the New was being read during the time of the apostles
But you have and seem to me to not know the God of the bible personally
Do you not know that to to touch God is to the touch the source of Truth itself and then you can go and study church history in that light and not the other way round
That's why you come up with these dead theory of Damascus 1 etc
Your source is trusting the Catholic Church not God himself in scripture
Sorry for you
This is only a possible interpretation. If you see Jesus you see the Father who we all call Yahweh. Jesus is his representative and Hebrews 1 says Jesus has inherited these things. Nobone can look at another object and say it is Yahweh. They must look to Jesus. This has not been demonstrated to be salvific knowledge btw, which i think is the main issue. It seems like the first half of the video is leaning this way since the "plain things are the main things."
If you represent someone's husband, can you then perform the signature acts of the husband? (Example, marriage, sleeping in the same bed together, being the father of their children). You can't. Those are acts specific to the actual husband / Father. Likewise, Jesus is doing the signature acts that Yahweh alone does, which is why in Hebrews 1, the Father directly applies Psalm 102:25-27 (a text about Yahweh) to Jesus and says that this is about Jesus, showing that Jesus is that Yahweh who created the heavens & the earth.
@@100_1OO________1 Jesus represents AND inherits from the Father as opposed to just represent as your example demonstrates. When a Son inherits from a Father he also gets his name. All authority Jesus has was GIVEN to him by the Father. This is not debatable, the scripture is clear on that matter.
@@Marvin-zv6md This shows you didn’t read my comment and decided to repeat your original comment. You’re referring to Jesus receiving the name after his resurrection, which DOES NOT account for him performing the signature acts of Yahweh alone PRIOR to the resurrection such as creating the heavens and the earth, sustaining life, being that source of all life, being the source of light, and the list goes on. You’re not getting it and you’re conflating his post resurrection exhalation with his divine actions prior to the incarnation. So this time, actually address my points and don’t just repeat yourself.
@@100_1OO________1 The bible makes it clear that these things were created THROUGH Jesus BY the Father. I don't understand why Trinitarians ignore this distinction.
@@100_1OO________1 Some argue that ot was Jesus at the burning bush. I have no problem with that because it says "the angel of the Lord" which many believe refers to Jesus in the Old Testament. But this in no way means that Jesus did not receive his authority.
Yahweh is Gods Name it’s Jehovah and then it’s Jesus … I just did a hard study on it … God know who u talking bout … but that’s not his
Except those who have the Holy Spirit can say YAHUSHA is YAH.
There is a difference between the Chruch, born again believers in Christ, and the Jews. The Jews will be here during The time of Jacobs trouble. They are chosen for a different destiny than the church. It's why there is a differential between the judaizers (Jews). They wanted to keep Gentiles under the law and be circumcised and do good works to be saved.. Paul came back to Israel to put a stop to that. It is why Jews/Israel was blinded spiritually to bring about the salvation of the Gentiles by Grace. While Jews can come to Christ, and trust in HIs Gospel most still in Judaism do not believe Jesus is the Messiah. But, in Zechariah. they will know whom they have pierced and morn for HIm. Why? Because like Thomas, they won't believe untl they have seen Him with His wounds. Gentiles believe before we have seen, or for a sign. It's why all born again believers should pray for the peace of Israel, and bless them, because through them, we have received Jesus the Christ for our redemption.
You keep wanting to have the Trinitarian argument and fight with other Christians... then anyone who disagrees with you isn't "saved". I see evidence on both sides on this matter... but your focus is trying to bash other Christians who don't see it your way.
Por favor Help
Your translation of Hebrews 1 isn’t good. It’s misleading and that’s why you interpret it incorrectly. It is better rendered as:
7And of the angels it says, who makes his angels as winds, and his ministers as a flaming fire,
8but of the Son it says, Your throne is God forever and ever, and the scepter of uprightness is the scepter of your kingdom.
9You have loved righteousness and hated lawlessness. Therefore God, your God, has anointed you with the oil of gladness rather than your companions.
10And, You, Lord, in the beginning laid the foundation of the earth, and the heavens are the works of your hands.
God isn’t speaking in verses 7ff. It’s the author referencing to what the scripture says.
In verses 8-9, the author is quoting from Psalm 45 which if we read the psalm in its entirety we will notice the distinction made between the king Messiah and God. God blesses and anoints this king messiah, a “son of men” (verse 2). Verse 4 says, “And in Your majesty ride prosperously because of truth, humility, and righteousness; And Your right hand shall teach You awesome things.” Therefore, the psalmist addresses God (not the king) in verses 6-7 giving the reason why God anoints this king. God loves righteousness and hates wickedness and thus anoints the king because he too loves righteousness. Thus, the creation account given in the next verses (10-11) are also about the Father, and the NEW CREATION is established by the Son. There’s much more to say but that should do for now.
You're talking nonsense, Doesn't the same verses say of the SON that He is Creator, Sustainer and Will Change All Things, who created All things according to the OT, is it not YAHWEH, didnt you read Verses 1 - 4, smh
Repent of this antichrist attitude towards the Eternal Son of God, who is Himself in Nature God
@@chibuezeughanze1121everything was created THROUGH the Son not BY the Son. Jesus INHERITED a name above all names. Don't make these issues salvific knowledge when the scripture does not.
@@Marvin-zv6md is this not just insane wicked eisegesis
Colossians said he is the active agent
Through is even a stronger than word than by
For The Son did it
It came through him
What else other than God can be a channel to hold and channel Infinite Power
Stop this your wickedness and antichrist spirit against Jesus christ anf repent
Ask him to reveal himself to you lest you perish because you denied him his rightful Place as Lord of All
Creator of the Heavens and the Earth
It is a salvific issue
Who so ever doesn't obey worship or submit to the Son will perish
What you believe about Jesus is everything
He is the Chief One and center of the entire New Creation
Be warned
@@chibuezeughanze1121I did read verses 1-4. Verse 3b-4 says:
“sat down at the right hand of the Majesty on high, having become so much better than the angels, as He has by inheritance obtained a more excellent name than they.”
Hebrews 1:3b-4
Here’s the bottom line picture that you COMPLETELY lose sight of when insist that this passage is about Jesus being YHWH. This passage about HOW Jesus “had BECOME so much better than the angels.” If the authors intent was to say that Jesus is YHWH he has gone completely the wrong way about it and makes no sense to premise every argument with how he sat down at the right hand of the “Majesty on High” BECOMING greater than the angels thus “by inheritance obtained a more excellent name than they.” I mean, if he was YHWH then he ALREADY had a greater name then them. If you’re God there’s nothing more to inherit.
Why doesn’t religion make people better people?
Holy Spirit does
@@chicokayyoo9823 I guess my question is why aren’t a lot of people that say they are religious good people?