A lot of people at release: "Ew, why is the homing attack on a separate button from the jump? I'm too used to double-tapping jump!" Almost everyone else: "Hey, they're finally using the other buttons; that's neat." DPadGamer: "My time has come."
@@veronicabermudez4802 I'm 90% certain that the only 3D Sonic games that don't have the homing attack on jump are Unleashed and Frontiers, meaning that 3D Blast was technically the one to bind it to the jump button (or Sonic Adventure if you only count the truly 3D games).
Ever since you joined the speedrunning discord for tips on beating it without jumping, I’ve been waiting ever so patiently for this video to come out. It was nice talking to you in the conversations in the server and I’m really enjoying this video
Just a little thing for y’all who need help with this: the monster hunter DLC has a free minigame in the fishing spots, that gives you fishing tokens. If you’re patient, you can skip the whole island with fishing. also I’m mad that you called wyvern boring how dare you
I tried an entire no-jump run after I saw your shield skip video, and I gotta say, it was tough, but fun! I wanted to make a video on it, but I gave myself a bit more leeway by allowing jumps with the trick bars and the raptor on Chaos Island. I will say that I did things differently on Rhea island. For the first tower, if you're precise enough, you can boost-launch off the platform, stop yourself with parry, and then air-boost back to hit the boost ring! It is interesting to see how they changed the platforming on easy mode though.
This videos so cool, I loved seeing how you figured out new skips and routing to pull this off! Also when the giganto boss fight came on I lost my goddsdamn mind (positive)
Since "Break Through It All" is my favorite of the boss themes, I was sad Wyvern didn't get an montage. However, boring is fair for the actual boss fight. I would say it's tedious how long it takes to actually hit it.
@@crispy930 back in my first playthrough I was so flabbergasted during the giganto fight , was so hyped against wyvern but disappointed when Knight came because I defeated him in a minute 🥲
While I havent spent much time (like 20 minutes) with the spindash, definitely. Its fast, doesnt require the jump button, and can easily give Sonic height / airtime and you still have the an air boost at the ready.
We're probably due a followup when update 3 hits, because some *interesting* files have popped up after update 2 that seem to suggest that we're getting full movesets - complete with learnable skills - for the other three when they become playable in that update. No distinct skill icons, but colour-coded placeholder skill slots, 15 each for 45 new skill slots in total.
It was so weird to see this video because I straight up forgot this game existed. I wasn't terribly interested in it so I haven't followed it much, sure, but I heard basically NOTHING when this game came out or since then. I have absolutely no idea what's going on here besides a lack of jumping lol, what in the world... In any case, great vid, always fun to see these sorts of vids from you. Also it's hilarious that you ended up discovering an awesome speedrunning trick for this, I love that.
12:58 I have no memory of this place. I think I remember going into the canyon, but I have no memory of this hidden area. Ironically I 100%ed this game. So you expect me to remember it. I guess it was just that bland, or I blanked out. But it did feel funny how everyone had a problem getting to the red emerald. And yet I didn’t. (Maybe I used a Elder Coco warp?)
Would probably be pretty easy since (from my knowledge) it is never mandatory, for 100% yes (because of some map puzzles) but just beating the story should be pretty easy
Part of me think you should retry this challenge one more time after update 3 since it will be more characters and probably more ways you can tackle this that's just me though
If you get above Eagle, you CAN defeat them by stomping, which causes the same homing effect as against the Spring enemies back in Ares island. That being said, you still can't ride on them that way.
Unpopular opinion that I haven't heard anyone else say: I like the first half of break through it all more than the second Sometimes when I listen to the song and it gets to the second half, I pause it and replay the first half I know... WIERD
I thought mans put this video up because of spindash and just spent an afternoon making this and it turns out that's not why, but even so I know he does it for passion because seeing what you can do in games that turn out to be somewhat hard to come back to because of a lack of content following the end of the game (at launch, not considering the dlc) is cool if the movement options are versatile enough
Would it be possible to beat the game without attacking (using the homing attack, combos and special moves, except for Cyloop)? So the only way you can damage enemies is with the jump, drop dash, slide, parrying and the Cyloop.
Without testing I wanna say no, only because I don't *think* Cyloop damages bosses by itself, and for Wyvern especially, you cant start the chasing-across-red-path sequence until you homing attack onto him from the top of the tower.
While Wyvern MIGHT be boring, it is the most cinematic of the fights since: Giganto is in a large valley You fight Knight in a pit But you fight Wyvern WHILE FLYING AROUND THE WHOLE ISLAND.
>skips Wyvern because "it's boring" >does a montage for Supreme bruh But really, this was fun and I appreciate that you mentioned redoing the script to keep it concise and not needlessly long. Especially with so many UA-camrs making their videos over an hour long for no good reason. I think it was pretty well paced! I think this challenge kinda shows how despite its limitations, it's one of the Sonic games with the most free control options in a while and that's a good part of what made it so refreshing for the franchise!
You should name these "without using the jump button" because you are technically jumping, but if you say without using the jump button then it'd make a lot more sense
@@DPadGamer making it restart the cycle just means its teaching you that you need to party and stay on guard also you're flying over the whole entire island while fighting a dragon I don't see how that's boring
is this technically a reupload but with updated info? like the original video is gone and replaced with this new one? or was there never a first video and I'm just having a bad memory moment lol. Either way I've added it to the ever increasing DPadGamer Challenge videos playlist I've been compiling
Just a bad memory moment :p, though I understand the confusion as I originally recorded, scripted, and hyped this video up via community posts back in December but only now got it done and out.
@@DPadGamer yaaa I was leaning towards that there wasn't a video before but idk something was there. so ya maybe it was some clip/community post stuff. And maybe your shield skip video as part of the hype *shrug* glad to see you got the video done though good job as always love your content (especially the challenge video stuff)
if i remember chronologically, 1st it was mag dash, which is a name for a similar trick in spark the electric jester 3, which is also a tribute to SA1 2nd it became the griddy because speedrunners love funny names 3rd the sonic frontiers tips and tricks video came out with the homing boost...
the fight with THE END was really disappointing like we get a fantastic build to it that makes you expect it to be like the other titans fight and nope its the boring mini game like whyyyyy
I love seeing sonic glitch to jump so high, reminds me of the superbounce from sa2, so nostalgic
not jump. jumps are the enemy. sonic launches.
@@iceberglettuce1050
He yeets
@@enderguyx2081 he ASCENDS
@@emmycedeno he *GOES*
A lot of people at release: "Ew, why is the homing attack on a separate button from the jump? I'm too used to double-tapping jump!"
Almost everyone else: "Hey, they're finally using the other buttons; that's neat."
DPadGamer: "My time has come."
Can You Beat Sonic Frontiers Without Jumping? - DPadGamer
Double tapping was introduced in colors right?
@@veronicabermudez4802 I'm 90% certain that the only 3D Sonic games that don't have the homing attack on jump are Unleashed and Frontiers, meaning that 3D Blast was technically the one to bind it to the jump button (or Sonic Adventure if you only count the truly 3D games).
the whole point of the homing attack was to make it easier to jump on enemies in 3D.
@@veronicabermudez4802Adventure Series I think
Ever since you joined the speedrunning discord for tips on beating it without jumping, I’ve been waiting ever so patiently for this video to come out. It was nice talking to you in the conversations in the server and I’m really enjoying this video
You've been waiting far too long, so sorry for that, but I'm glad its out and thank you for watching :)
Just a little thing for y’all who need help with this: the monster hunter DLC has a free minigame in the fishing spots, that gives you fishing tokens. If you’re patient, you can skip the whole island with fishing.
also I’m mad that you called wyvern boring how dare you
Wyvern just happens to be the most YEET-able guardian, is all.
I love that instead of removing the super sonic boss fight you just made a super cool edit out of it
The disrespect for Wyvern is UNFORGIVEABLE!
This is why they say Sonics best strength is running, not jumping
I tried an entire no-jump run after I saw your shield skip video, and I gotta say, it was tough, but fun! I wanted to make a video on it, but I gave myself a bit more leeway by allowing jumps with the trick bars and the raptor on Chaos Island. I will say that I did things differently on Rhea island. For the first tower, if you're precise enough, you can boost-launch off the platform, stop yourself with parry, and then air-boost back to hit the boost ring! It is interesting to see how they changed the platforming on easy mode though.
Short answer: it's a sonic game where you get to control him again. Sonic Team really hit a home run with this game
I always think it's cool when you have to create your own new techniques to beat a challenge run. Well done and great video!
This videos so cool, I loved seeing how you figured out new skips and routing to pull this off!
Also when the giganto boss fight came on I lost my goddsdamn mind (positive)
Since "Break Through It All" is my favorite of the boss themes, I was sad Wyvern didn't get an montage. However, boring is fair for the actual boss fight. I would say it's tedious how long it takes to actually hit it.
Understandable, the song itself is pretty dang good.
I think Wyvern is the best boss because of that he is the only one to offer some challenge and doesn’t go down in 30 seconds
@@clasherinotheone5249 At least it makes it so I can listen to the song longer. I try to time parts of the fight to the song.
@@crispy930 back in my first playthrough I was so flabbergasted during the giganto fight , was so hyped against wyvern but disappointed when Knight came because I defeated him in a minute 🥲
This challenge might be even easier with the new spindash
While I havent spent much time (like 20 minutes) with the spindash, definitely. Its fast, doesnt require the jump button, and can easily give Sonic height / airtime and you still have the an air boost at the ready.
How do you get spindash?
You need to get an s-rank in all of the action chain challenges which are newer challenges found on the four Islands
We're probably due a followup when update 3 hits, because some *interesting* files have popped up after update 2 that seem to suggest that we're getting full movesets - complete with learnable skills - for the other three when they become playable in that update. No distinct skill icons, but colour-coded placeholder skill slots, 15 each for 45 new skill slots in total.
3:50 damn, no matter how many times i see this cutscene and hear this song it always gives me chills
It was so weird to see this video because I straight up forgot this game existed. I wasn't terribly interested in it so I haven't followed it much, sure, but I heard basically NOTHING when this game came out or since then. I have absolutely no idea what's going on here besides a lack of jumping lol, what in the world... In any case, great vid, always fun to see these sorts of vids from you. Also it's hilarious that you ended up discovering an awesome speedrunning trick for this, I love that.
12:58
I have no memory of this place. I think I remember going into the canyon, but I have no memory of this hidden area. Ironically I 100%ed this game. So you expect me to remember it.
I guess it was just that bland, or I blanked out. But it did feel funny how everyone had a problem getting to the red emerald. And yet I didn’t.
(Maybe I used a Elder Coco warp?)
I wasthinking of a video about beating frontiers without boosting, since spindashing got added
Would probably be pretty easy since (from my knowledge) it is never mandatory, for 100% yes (because of some map puzzles) but just beating the story should be pretty easy
ayyyyyyyyyyy it came out. I remember talking to you in the speedrun vc. Awesome video.
4:22 if you rotate the movement analog stick, it speeds up the meter. Credit to @CSTH1 for teaching me that
the 'IM HERE' at 24:19 was so clean tho
Yes! This a video I've been waiting for, ever since you found that skip in Chaos Island.
You can beat the Eagles (the bird enemies) if you're somehow in the air, then stomp them.
Homing Attack on a different button sweep.
Part of me think you should retry this challenge one more time after update 3 since it will be more characters and probably more ways you can tackle this that's just me though
I'M HERE
DPadGamer deflects missile shot by Supreme.
12:59 HAHA! You need to use the jump button to shoot the little ship guy! Your plan has been foiled!
As stated at the start of the video the confirm button is different than the jump button. Shooting required pressing confirm. 🤓
If you get above Eagle, you CAN defeat them by stomping, which causes the same homing effect as against the Spring enemies back in Ares island. That being said, you still can't ride on them that way.
wait you found the shield escape skip? wow thats awesome!
also yes I skipped the final island with big too
Yeah :D
The sheer disrespect not letting the second half of break through it all play.
Unpopular opinion that I haven't heard anyone else say:
I like the first half of break through it all more than the second
Sometimes when I listen to the song and it gets to the second half, I pause it and replay the first half
I know... WIERD
The issues with this game are what makes it so great and memorable for challenges like this. Lol, Sonic can probably make it to the moon. 😂
I think this would be interesting on ng+.
Good vid by the way
I thought mans put this video up because of spindash and just spent an afternoon making this and it turns out that's not why, but even so I know he does it for passion because seeing what you can do in games that turn out to be somewhat hard to come back to because of a lack of content following the end of the game (at launch, not considering the dlc) is cool if the movement options are versatile enough
I started giggling after hearing that metal pipe ahh sound at 16:47 😭😂
Or 16:48 lol
3:24 it's a cannon event, hedgehog
24:53 "I don't even know who you are" 😂 😂 😂 😂 1:32a.m. 6/29/2023
I will not stand for the Wyvern slander
Nice metroid prime music (also congrats om finding a new skip just to skip a jump)
jumpless cyberspace sounds neat, go for it
Man I love how the final boss is Touhou
Would it be possible to beat the game without attacking (using the homing attack, combos and special moves, except for Cyloop)?
So the only way you can damage enemies is with the jump, drop dash, slide, parrying and the Cyloop.
Without testing I wanna say no, only because I don't *think* Cyloop damages bosses by itself, and for Wyvern especially, you cant start the chasing-across-red-path sequence until you homing attack onto him from the top of the tower.
Yeah no, this game requires you to attack to actually get far. Maybe no boosting?
Babe wake up, new no-jump video just dropped
DPadBozo has the audacity to skip over Wyvern but then keeps the Giganto reskin??? /j
I love how the brokenness of sonic frontiers makes it a better game
Botw moment
reminds me of fnaf sb
at least it was funny to break on purpose
not if youre markiplier tho
Sonic 06 be like
Fun fact if you move the analog srick in a circle slamming buttons is not needed
On 2hich console are u playing
Pc
plz do a jumpless cyberspace video, that'd be sick!
the thing that annoyed me in sonic frontiers is that I never got 'the end' minigame bossfight and it looks so coooooool
I would love to see all Cyberspace jumpless
Man if you’d have done this now you could have minimized jump deceleration..
..wait..
While Wyvern MIGHT be boring, it is the most cinematic of the fights since:
Giganto is in a large valley
You fight Knight in a pit
But you fight Wyvern WHILE FLYING AROUND THE WHOLE ISLAND.
Also it has the best song imo
Jumpless cyber space please
You earned a sub 😉
Loll this challenge seems more easier because of how broken the spindash is
I wonder if this can be done one the update too
>skips Wyvern because "it's boring"
>does a montage for Supreme
bruh
But really, this was fun and I appreciate that you mentioned redoing the script to keep it concise and not needlessly long. Especially with so many UA-camrs making their videos over an hour long for no good reason. I think it was pretty well paced!
I think this challenge kinda shows how despite its limitations, it's one of the Sonic games with the most free control options in a while and that's a good part of what made it so refreshing for the franchise!
is it just me whos hearing "ban kai" at 16:56
Since I edited it in; no u arent.
You should name these "without using the jump button" because you are technically jumping, but if you say without using the jump button then it'd make a lot more sense
Sonic isn't jumping when he launches, just running and falling upwards in a really cool way
@@DPadGamer I'm just mainly talking about the bounce but I can agree he is falling upwards in a really cool way
He's just falling with style!
Why didn’t you do a montage for wyvern? I mean sure it’s the 2nd worst Titan but come on! You did one for supreme!
Spin dash might help with new game plus
Calling wyvern boring is insane
It is though! Its on rails, no timing is required for the parry, messing up means waiting for the next cycle
@@DPadGamer making it restart the cycle just means its teaching you that you need to party and stay on guard also you're flying over the whole entire island while fighting a dragon I don't see how that's boring
Ur waiting for more than half the time
@@KalizWasTak3n no not at all you can just parry the rockets
Maybe the gameplay is less free but it feels very cinematic and I love that
Which console did you do this no-jump run on?
Pc
How dare you call wyvern boring Hey google find this guys house
I actually myself did a jumpless run!
and actually 100% the game without jumping once!
is this technically a reupload but with updated info? like the original video is gone and replaced with this new one? or was there never a first video and I'm just having a bad memory moment lol. Either way I've added it to the ever increasing DPadGamer Challenge videos playlist I've been compiling
Just a bad memory moment :p, though I understand the confusion as I originally recorded, scripted, and hyped this video up via community posts back in December but only now got it done and out.
@@DPadGamer yaaa I was leaning towards that there wasn't a video before but idk something was there. so ya maybe it was some clip/community post stuff. And maybe your shield skip video as part of the hype *shrug* glad to see you got the video done though good job as always love your content (especially the challenge video stuff)
This game should have brought Hyper Sonic back.
I wonder how it would've been if you used new game+ with spindash
Bro disrespected wyvern :(
Jumping is overrated
16:57 sonic become ichigo
9:28 never heard it called the mag dash until now… always heard it as homing boost/homing shot
Well for the first month or two, a lot of people in the speed run discord we're calling it magdashing, idk
some refer it as the griddy
if i remember chronologically,
1st it was mag dash, which is a name for a similar trick in spark the electric jester 3, which is also a tribute to SA1
2nd it became the griddy because speedrunners love funny names
3rd the sonic frontiers tips and tricks video came out with the homing boost...
@@middyjohn yeah, that’s where I first heard the name for it. As well as hsp (hedgehog space program) in another video
Are you gonna do a revisit now that the spindash exists?
Well, I covered spindash in a later section. Spoilers; it doesnt change things up toooo much.
@@DPadGameraw, sucks
Now do it on New Game + with the Spin Dash
the fight with THE END was really disappointing like we get a fantastic build to it that makes you expect it to be like the other titans fight and nope its the boring mini game like whyyyyy
He jumped!!! >:(
13:01 ...?
22:28-22:40 😂😂😂😂 1:28a.m. 6/29/2023
6:58a.m. 6/28/2023
Can You Beat Sonic Frontiers Without Jumping? - DPadGamer
i hate shield escape skip.
Sorry
🎀24:53
FOUL. that was FOUL hdfjksl
The answer, spoiler warning for those who have not watched.
Yes, is it easy? No.
Yo for some reason UA-cam unsubscribed me
Woah
Hedgehog space program has been initiated. Buy now 30$ per ticket.
Mom said it's my turn to be pinned by you
Aye
*promosm* 🤣