Activision ceast & desist order coming soon! Lolol I believe it 100%. I’ve lost gunfights that are zero explanation of how they could have happened besides this
Do not stop covering this, the more this is brought to light the more this will eventually snow ball into mass exposure! hopefully this will make people wake up!
After seeing this and experiencing it for myself just like all of you, does anyone honestly still think that Big Tech would never rig electronic election voting and tabulation machines especially when most are designed to be able to externally manipulate as stated in the machines instruction manuals?? Just a thought......
You can literally go find the patent on google, there is no exposure needed. People are just dumb as bricks and suck, so they don't realize it BECAUSE THEY'RE GETTING BOOSTED "iTs NoOOt reAl" yeah right you fucking clowns ** Not directed at the OP!!!!! Just my two cents on the topic **
as a cod veteran I can 100 say it don't feel the same anymore. the game plays us now and that's why I feel pure frustration and zero enjoyment from playing cod these days
been playing first person shooters for over 20 years and I can say without a doubt that Warzone has been the most trivial shooter I've ever played...now I know why
In the Online Multiplayer Justice System, Skill-Based offenses are considered especially heinous. The dedicated UA-camrs who investigate these vicious felonies are known as the "Detectives Of Online Retention-Biased Infection and Negligence (DOORBIN). These are their stories: -Law and Order: DOORBIN intro
I'm starting to think that the game isn't "buggy" as much as it's intentionally screwy in order to maintain plausible deniability about all this match rigging stuff
I definitely think it is more intentionally rigged than just being buggy too. The amount of point blank with shotguns I had encountered or hit markers with snipers especially on shoulders meanwhile I started shredding later really does convince me that skill base damage also comes in effect along with skill base matchmaking.
@@0QualityOverQuantity I mean rigging sports has been a thing since the dawn of time. They were rigging baseball games back in the 20s and now they’re rigging tournaments 😂
@@0QualityOverQuantity it doesn’t matter entertainment can be rigged unless it’s classified as a sport (for example ufc is now changed from sport to entertainment so now it could be legally rigged)
The plausible deniability comes from the fact that everyone is having an experience relative to skill level and people who regularly hover within or below avg KD range have no complaints. Because skill-based is real
I’ve definitely experienced these issues where center mass shots at close range don’t even register. The weird one is when aim assist goes wonky and makes your aim seemingly go away from the target.
I've had quite a few times on shipment where I was dead center mast on someone, I was using a shotgun and would shoot and nothing, no hitmarker or anything and then I'd suddenly drop dead. Watch the replay and it would show that I didn't even shoot when I clearly shot them.
@@Ariez___ all the time. There's been times where I've watched the kill cam and the other player was nowhere near where I was firing at and it made me look stupid, even though at the time when I was shooting it was dead on and should have killed them.
Don’t you love shooting some level 30 player 3 times first and they turn and instantly kill you. Keep in mind you shot them 3 times before they even started engaging with you
Activision is applying same strategy on Call of Duty as EA Games for FIFA. Balancing the gameplay for the side that they want by using all the statistics available. It is clear that looks like we just win gunfights if the game allows you. Activision should take accountability for the frustration that they are creating on the player base.
@@GrabbaBeer the arcade strategy is different I must say. The players were playing against hard AI's and the game cycle was made to be short for high turnaround of players/users. This is different. We pay for a full game which the skilled players are clearly penalised because of their statistics. The game shouldn't interfere with the skills for fair play. At the end of the day we just ask Activision to remove the SBMM and the SBD for a fair play. Im not a great player, but if even with that Im being penalised, why should I continue to play the game?
These patents were implemented into most games with a skill gap, is rife on ''War Thunder'' a game i played to escape the unfairness in COD.. Too bad, it's on that as well.
This is kinda my theory behind us not having hard numbers on weapon stats. If they provided those hard numbers, it would be a really easy to compile tons of evidence that this exists. For example, someone testing uses a weapon that does 50 base damage. They land x amt of shots resulting in y amount of damage.
I've also had the thought that maybe it's not completely damage, but perhaps they nerf your multipliers instead. For example they kill off any body shot dmg multiplier or make those hit zones smaller for the one being nerfed. This game is very sus
Also why the cod.tracker is still not released, they dont want us checking the stats of those bad players that constantly get “lucky” kills on us.. have you wondering how lil timmy first time touching cod is able to keep up with you stat wise, they are trying to hide a lot from us lmao
Sbmm is the worst thing that has happened to cod I mean who wants to sweat every match, also sbmm has alot of workaround so people can destroy noobs so if anything it makes the problem worst
Im gonna go on a hugeee stretch here but this is seriously pissing me off. I have a hunch that im experiencing some sort of skill based crashing? It sounds ridiculous and quite frankly it is, but right after a 110 kill game in shipment, i get on track to doing it again and crash the minute it starts speeding up. There are no signs of stutters or any performance bluffs that could lead to a crash. And after that, the next game my M4 is doing FAR less damage and im getting instakilled by smgs left right and center. I could just be mad but I feel like there’s something else.
I finally feel vindicated being called a conspiracy theorist…this is some gross stuff and I feel like this is grounds for a lawsuit against the company for deceptive and discriminatory practices. Does this mean ExclusiveAce’s damage testing is useless?!?! There’s no true set damage so we really can’t get real data even if we tried…
Indeed it is 100% consumer fraud and I don't care one bit if those pieces of shit think they reserve the right, everyone should get opportunity for 100% refund no questions asked
well they do have a patent you can literally go find it for yourself, it's disgusting. I'd also like to be part of the class action lawsuit once it's live to get my $70 beta test fee reimbursed
I noticed after I do really well for afew games I’ll get into a lobby where I’m literally being spawned infront of people who are already aiming down their sites and approaching that area or my bullets will become weaker. I also noticed when I surpass the games expectations of me for that lobby, it’ll literally start holding me back from scoring, spawning me far away from the action until the leader gets to 28 kills. Once he gets to 28 kills I noticed a glitch in my movement and suddenly I’m playing like a pro again but it doesn’t matter cause the game literally held me down at second to last place
I encountered a massive glitch last night. I started rage quitting these kind of lobbies that are meant to be punishment lobbies for playing well. I would restart the entire game, sometimes my entire pc. Matchmake. Get a Great lobby. Balanced. Did this multiple times. Every time I did I'd get my chopper gunner and start getting some kills in it, only to be immediately disconnected from the server right in the middle of using the chopper. This happened to me multiple times last night, and I had NO other server connection issues otherwise all day yesterday or today.
@@Bigmanoncampus888 I saw somebody comment this same thing the other night. They were running an experiment and everytime they got their copper it would disconnect them 😂
Yeah and THAT'S what keeps you coming back!! I haven't been able to STOP playing this game since I bought it and I'm NOT a real gamer lol ..... there's a difference between competition and brain hacking or whatever you want to call it. This is really no different than Video Poker in a casino rather than a regular random slot machine. Video Poker requires a little skill but the game is still calculating how you play, I can tell because although I'm not a math genius I've played enough long hours that I without even really knowing my brain is doing this, I must be calculating some type of pattern similar to counting cards if you will, because when certain cards come out in a certain order, I just instinctively know this machine isn't ready to give back anything and it's the same thing on any one I play anywhere so much that I've noticed that most times jackpots I've hit come without holding ANY CARDS. The SAME experience is happening in THIS GAME. I can't explain it but after playing for only a little over two months, I can tell when a player or game just doesn't feel right, things are off, certain ways I move are manipulated, certain players are moving faster than others etc., It's very weird to explain but I KNOW that's the reason that keeps me coming back!! This "Skill Based Damage" I've discovered thanks to all the people out there whether a mathematician or not., intuitively you know that something is just off and you're right because IT IS and it's BECAUSE it's PROGRAMMED TO DO THAT!!!
I just started thinking about all my FFA games I've played and what you're describing here is exactly what happens to me. I'll have 20 something kills and just shredding, 10 kills above everyone else, and all of a sudden im spawning near no one, getting spawn killed, bullets aren't doing jack shit, then all of a sudden im tied with 3 other people at 28 kills struggling to find people to kill.
@@run4fun143 no sbmm was a thing since black ops 1 and it was actually used how it was supposed to Skill based damage is a new thing they started using in 2019 along with the new unfair sbmm algorithm they cooked up
@deediedededoe love the input however you don't know what you don't know. I played cod for money, I went to massive lans with top players back in cod 2 cod 4, OG mw2 days etc... It's obvious now more then ever, a restard could see it now without looking. They didn't have patents on it back in the day as it took Manu law suits, and it was more subtle back then, more subliminal but still obvious for people who competed. I was in the trenches trying to wake people up back then, it's guys like you that wait for some authority or patentz to point out the obvious 😆 Yall are the legging indicators, the whole world is controlled by elite who pull strings in all sectors of society. Gaming was just the last industry in entertainment before manipulating augmented reality. Your in a matrix you clearly cannot see already without augmented reality. But it's ignorance from people like you that will accept everything cause of your social amd authority bias blinding your independent experience.
@@run4fun143 my God dude it's just a fact lmao no need to write a novel sorry but I'm not reading all of that and I'm sorry to tell you it's a newly customized algorithm my friend had a pvp centered game with a system like this I even made it myself so please don't tell my how skill based algorithms work
Skill based damage is 100% in this game. When I started playing I consistently 2 shot people with the M14 to the body at medium range. After doing pretty well for most of the day I started to notice, along with getting placed in games with nonstop campers (telltale sign of SBMM at work), the M14 suddenly needed 3 and sometimes 4 shots to the body even with the same attachments.
I notice that the kill spots seem to shrink I have shot people in the head Like taking off their ear and it’ll miss when I’m doing good I use the single shot sb and if I do too good I find hitting them is impossible and it needs two shots
@@shuneughu4244I noticed aswll I was using a 1 tap headshot tap fire weapon for camo grind. I needed headshot so my headshot percentage was really high. Out of nowhere it became a 2 tap headshot and a 2 tap to the body. I lost all headshot multiplier which was obvious damage drop off. Then when I came back to the weapon after completing other it was a 1 tap headshot again😭
I got every mastery camo so I only play when I’m drunk so I can definitely tell if skill based damage and aim exist exists and I’ve came to the conclusion it does
I stopped playing 3 days before the dxp went off went on earlier first 2 games my guns did damage after I started playing for an hour or 2 I instantly noticed the lobby differences.... fuck cod onwards from 2023 legit
Their patent literally says it can change damage mid game. The only way you can get a patent is by showing it can work. Activision can say they don't use it but the fact they HAVE it is enough. How would we know truthfully?
Bout time you're all catching on! CoD is taking you all for a ride. No wonder they left out so many classic core features on launch... those 3000 devs were busy rigging the game the whole time!!!
I've noticed a lot of players that seem to have a "bullet sponge" or skill-based damage effect tend to be on players with skins that were purchased. Could just be a coincidence.
i didnt buy shit and it affected me hardcore, the very first game i make 7-20Kills Warzone and die Placed maybe top 10 Right after that it was like 7-12Games in a Row where i just did 0Kills died Instantly while my Meeles or Shots were judt gone from the game.
Skill based health too, I watched a killcam where this guy shot my teammate 6-7 times in the lower torso and I came around the corner right after but I died in 3 shots (right after spawning, so full health) and he was aiming in the same lower torso area on me as well. You cant make this shit up, the game is either 100% rigged, or 100% broken.
@@peterhauk1914 woke devs? these are the same devs that made a mission where you hop over the us Mexico border and immediately start committing war crimes
Actually, I have clear proof of this since warzone 1. I have a clip of me shooting someone in the head with a sniper twice at 30m and only breaking all his plates, I didn't even get the down. But this does still happen frequently on the new game.
Damage issue us definitely felt, the amount of times I flick someone with the bryson 800 and it magically hit markers from point blank is infuriating, multiple games close to nuke with shotgun only and then shots suddenly stop killing
@@Vipox92 yeah I get that too, recordings I need to slice up at some point where I've point blank 180'd slowdown to watch when shot is fired directly over and nothing, really annoying when I tune a gun for the tightest spread and highest damage (no damage boost from the attachment that gives higher damage with wider pellet spread cuz inconsistency is already a major problem) and still can't kill right over a body
THE PING SPIKE AT 5:53. After I got my K/D above average, I lost every other gunfight due to a lag spike which would occur as soon as my cursor crossed another player’s hit box. INSANE!!!!
I always chalked it up to the hit detection in these games just getting worse and worse but this is getting so ridiculous it has to be some kind of SBMM.
It's one thing if it were to be consistent, but it's not. I accept there are players with better aim, hardware, experience. But it's not, one minute you are slaughtering the whole lobby, even with a couple of sweats (250), every shot hits were it should, at least you get the kills. a 65 mag seem to hold forever. Two or three matches in, one fkking guy takes the whole 65 mag point blank and still manages to run away. This game is so fkked up i do not even know where to start. How about getting sniped in Groundwar when loading in?, that's impossible but has happened. Mortars that hit you wherever you are, but when you do the same it hits ZERO. Magic bullets?
I'm so glad to know I'm not crazy. I've been complaining about this kinda thing for along time. The only consistent thing in this game is the inconsistency.
3 hits to the head still in the maximum damage range and no kill? Insane even the fact that a 2nd burst got a least one hit maker after that and no kill still. he had to get more hitmakers from a third burst all in the maximum damage range. Make it make sense, COD 4 had better hit detection or didn’t have the malicious code in it.
@@spaceowl5957 a bug that hasn’t existed for 15 years that just happens to be coinciding with the patents that Activision has filled that describes this exact scenario? Sure Jan, hit detection has never been perfect but the hits are registering because he’s getting hitmarkers. These hitmarkers are just doing less damage for some reason. After 15 years of making the same game it just can’t happen. Maliciousness makes more sense although if it was a bug/bad coding, that’s pathetic too and this game shouldn’t be played either way.
Then you should try 65 bullets from a minibak pointblank on a guy in Shipment, happened to me today. Emptied the whole thing and still the guy ran away. and i got fried reloading.
@@blackeastertheguy I am still yet to see any evidence of "skill based damage". I've experienced the discrepancies in damage done by my bullets in both warzone and multiplayer but this alone is not direct evidence of "skill based damage". We need something more than just random video clips. We need repeatable experiments which show the same thing taking place over and over again. The way to prove skill based damage would be to get a group of low skill/kdr/ppm profiles and a group of high skill/kdr/ppm profiles and test the theory out by having them inflict damage on each other in a controlled environment then analyse if there are any discrepancies in damage and if so by what degree. This information could then be plotted onto a graph and we could see if there is any correlation between skill level and damage. We all know this game is a pool of boiling excrement, what we need to know is if this has been done on purpose or whether its down to incompetence. Hopefully someone with the time and know-how can thoroughly test this theory out so we have some definitive proof.
A patent was filed a month before mw2 was released which goes into detail on how a players damage,health,hit reg,audio and visuals will be manipulated depending on the players storyline (how well a player is preforming online). This patent was released for activision fps online multiplayer.
Absolutely, this past few weeks ive been getting hitmarkers from headshots, even using the best guns and still wont kill people. it feels like i paid $70 just to lose.
100% happening, dropped back in after a couple weeks after I dropped an 80 kill game next game it felt like none of my shots were registering and it was every other shot. Was thinking of saving the game play for you! Will do next time!
I've been reverse boosting and I can tell you there are some games where the enemy gets the kill on me despite loading bullets into them. Sometimes I load a full clip into them, or even get aim resist at times. It's super evident in reverse boosted lobbies to show how protected the bad players are.
This is how my game plays every single day. When you have to commit 20+ bullets on each player they’ve virtually guaranteed you can’t wipe a full squad by yourself.
All I want for Christmas is Activision to go bankrupt. I hope BT's next video covers Skill Based Movement. No NOT sweaty YY spamming tiktok nerds, just regular good old pushing the left stick forward to try to move then constantly lagging and stumbling every single time you respawn. Yeah, they actually nerfed SPRINTING. Merry Xmas friends!
The last time I played this game (which was probably 3 weeks ago at this point) I got a hitmarker with a sniper to the head. Instantly quit and haven't played since.
idk how they can just blatantly ignore this shit and do nothing about it I am 100% convinced Activision blizzard are trying to ruin their game why else would they actively keep doing shit like this it makes no sense otherwise
As someone who heavily uses the expedite 12 shotgun, i can very much confirm this wack ass hit reg. There has been so MANY times ill point blank someone dead center in the chest and all the pellets just "miss". Then other times I'll one shot someone from 100ft. Like wtf
You're 100% right - the worst thing is just the inconsistency that we experience every day. That's purely the reason for all of this, and for all of the assumptions, doubts, confusions.
Funny how even the network status gadget (ping + packet loss) hides when you're dead. (Was it always like this ?) Its kinda useless if we can't see these metrics while we're dead, like they are hiding the nerfing...
I 100% believe that both got detection and damage get adjusted in-match. And I think it is applied strongest when you begin the game and go on a long streak without dying. When you return from the first death it will be VERY DIFFICULT to get more quick kills and go on another steak. Totally believe that hit detection tanks for me so that it’s 1 death-1 kill ratio until the end of the game.
Had one of the best matches in shipment..both teams running and gunning for each other no rocket launchers no bloody camping no grenades..then after that it went to shit so £80 well spent on the fkn game .
I didn't believe it at first purely because it's insane but after playing more (I play in the top bracket lobbies) I can definitely feel myself get nerfed. I'll drop 80 kills four games in a row then allnof a sudden my guns get no hit reg or shoot marshmallows and I can barely crack 50 kills even tho nothing changed
I’ll be getting a pretty good amount of kills and my gun will be an actual gun then next round everybody laser beams the shit out of me and my gun shoots pillows it just makes me so pissed I turn the game off
Dude never ever thought about that before in any COD but I noticed something really really weird is going on in MW2 and wz2 like fully plated shooting somebody from behind and I mean a full mag barley missed anything dude is turning around in slow mo and litterly 2 shots me to the legs split second dead fully plated like WTF! I mean he wasn't even plated up no 3 shield and a total bot from his cam aim all over the place and then 2 bullets hit im dead! 👀 And I feel like it's always in the botlobbys like I'm shooting plastic BBs! The same multiplayer 3-4 games in a row I'm frying destroying everybody in the lobby and suddenly I'm in a lobby and can't kill barley somebody even in a total botlobby with clueless players! Like boom Im dead 2 shot 1 shot felt like Im getting snipped every single time but actually get shot with a smg again players who missing nearly every shot then hit one and I'm gone! The weirdest experience I ever had in any cod before! The same with aimassist it's crazy inconsistent like one lobby it feels like I'm having aimbot barley have to aim my self it just sticks to people another game I have to try my hardest to tracks somebody!
@@jingelegjingelek4040word!!! happene to me a loooooottttttt!! have a theory, what if the hit multiplier is broken? like in xclusive ace videos about the riot shield?! what i mean, if he was already fighting with someone (what they did in my cases) hit multipliers will apply on a new target (me in that case) ? could this be the issue ? so my enemy is fighting someone else, i shot and hit first, broke plates first , he turns and fire 2-3 shots and i’m dead 😂
5:23 Two headshot hitmarkers, two upper bodies. Homie hit him four times outside of the penetration hits, with two hits being headshots. Absolutely no way in any other CoD this man would still need to shoot. Edit: 12:25 Watching back at literally .25 speed and the dude is just barely off to the right of his target. With a shotgun, unless hes rocking slugs, that's an easy hit. Even with slugs it feels like a limb shot.
im just sick of the few times when im playing where someone can kill me through a concrete wall or a car but i cant kill someone through a wooden door.... not to mention theres always the guarantee of someone running around with a riot shield and pistol and with a scope on it so that when you turn to run(bc i dont have a semtex with every loadout) they switch to their pistol and shoot you in the back
Just glad to know that I'm not freaking insane... After about 10 matches it kicks in and all of a sudden it takes 5 extra shots to kill with whatever weapon you wanna use
I thought i was the only one. When SBMM activates the damage definetly goes down. I hit a guy twice in the chest point blank with FTAC Recon and dont kill him while he kills me in 2 bullets with the Bizon, for example. When SBMM hits its literally unplayable and it feels insanly rigged. When it comes to the shield, Ace made a video about it, its just buggy af. I dont think this phenomenon applies to the shield. Its more about getting 10 hitmarkers on the head and then getting deleted in 10ms.
I believe there is skill based damage hell last night I had about 5-10 games where everything was fine and for a handful games after that it felt like I was firing BB's at the enemy.
I don't need the proof I've been playing cod all my life and I know for a fact just by playing there's skill based damage or some form of damage mitigation/buff going on. In every other game a guns ttk is the guns ttk 99.9% of the time. But in cod your ttk is completely inconsistent from enemy to enemy, the kill cams reveal this if you can see their plates and health.
It still same shit after 5 months. Guy one-two taps me with vaznev while I needed to land 4-5 shots. Same builds, close quarter shipment map that doesnt really affect damage range drop or something
Considering how many visible, experienced bugs there are, just imagine how many bugs there are that we CANNOT see. It seems like most of the bugs I’ve seen in this new cod are due to what we call “race conditions” in the software engineering/dev field. Essentially it’s when two different ‘actions’ or ‘events’ are fired at the same time, and because most tasks are executed synchronously, the computer has to decide which ‘ event’ to fire first, in which the second ‘event’ then has to wait, stall, or finish executing depending on the language. Sometimes this results in some bugs that cause both of these events to collide so you’ll see bugs that allow users to exploit the game by firing two different actions at the same exact time, etc. I feel that these insane damage nerfs are due to race conditions in the game deciding to nerf you, and analyzing how much to nerf you at the same time, which results in damage buggy town.
@@SixxWolfZx I don't think you read the rest of my comment. I mention at the end that the game trying to nerf you may cause another set of issues that cause our games to bug out.
omg this makes so much sense because when i first started playing this game i noticed my bullet damage was so high but now im higher rank i just see and hear hit markers and mag dumps should be kills this is why i stopped playing, i get more fun playing apex and fortnite....i hate that i spent for vault edition and i never buy cod games anymore since 2010 lol
I just had an incident on Warzone 2. I was shooting a guy pointing blank while aiming down sight. He had no idea I was there then turned and killed me. Kill cam showed him taking absolutely no damage. It’s either skill based damage or shitty servers
No clips from me but; An FSS hurricane should not be out-gunned by a pistol. Everything is rigged, in this case even if I get a 3 hit jumpstart on someone, I will still lose.
I think there’s skill based dead silence too. I run dead silence pretty often as well as ghost and after watching kill cams where enemies spin around as I walk up on them, they can hear my foot steps clear as day even though I should be silent
The MWII reddit is quite depressing these days, the amount of people that flat out get defensive when you talk about any rigging is weird, especially after all the clips and charts showing it most definitely does exist. its almost like Activision plated AI bots there to defend it. its so strange
I have experienced everything in this video on MP and Warzone. It’s disgusting how bad it is at times. I experience it every game. Early match or late match. I get insta deleted fully plated
I’ve noticed when I’m doing really well all of a sudden my aim starts getting violently thrown to the left or right when I’m in gunfights causing me to lose.
I love this live reaction kind of video BT! We can laugh together lol And yes, skill-based damage is real. It has become more apparent especially on Shipment
I have the aim assist issue all the time where I’m doing all the criteria to activate it and it either doesn’t do anything or it disengages partially through. I also have encountered daily where I’m hammering someone form 5 feet away (close enough you aren’t missing a shot) and get a 2-3 shot advantage on them to just be dropped by them I have sooo many videos of that
@@UnknownSource08 just because they have patents for it doesn’t mean they can’t make a separate playlist if enough people make noise. Stop crying like a little bihhh and help us make some noise. Plus everyone knows they have patents for it
Wether it's a hit registration bug or if it's truly SBD, it's still really odd that infinity ward hasn't addressed this at all, especially since the game has been out for two months.
I've had many matches similar to the knife video on shipment but were my bullets Pulp Fiction around guys when I'm ADS center mass at mid range. Even semi auto
I uninstalled MW2 a few days ago. I had gotten a win and then just assumed I was getting worse, because I had such a hard time killing anybody after that. I had such a bad expeiernce I didn't see the point in playing anymore ... I didn't even consider something like this was going on lol.
Merry Xmas from Australia Brother. Just know you've been a great outlet throughout the year when times are shitty and boring . Onwards and upwards for the upcoming year you bloody beauty.
Skill based hit reg is definitely real, skill based ping too, my ping sometimes spikes the very moment I enter a gunfight. Skill based spawns too...there's no end to the fuckery
Yes yes yes. This. Even when my brother walked pass and and stopped to watch me play. He even commented how I always start lagging whenever I get into a gun fight. It's bullshit.
I had to stop playing even after only getting 4 Gold guns. I was going absolutely insane from the number of fights I was starting and losing, or just not having my shots register. Or starting the fight and having them whip around and absolutely melt me with an M4 in like a single frame after eating 2 shots already. The worst times where when they were using the SAME GUN AS I WAS. It's like how is my AK losing to your AK even though I shot first and didn't miss?
I’ve never had moments like these before but I have had moments where I hit 2 headshots and 2 body shots with an ar and the people don’t die whereas when I first get on I’ll melt people instantly. It’s definitely sbmm or skill based damage
on the flipside of this, I've definitely had some really bad streaks before going .65 k/d in multiple games on shipment while grinding, and then I'll get a couple kills that I absolutely should not have gotten
I’m almost certain there is skill based damage in the game. Had a few bad games (unfortunately am past the refund window) where my gun wasn’t doing anything. Then next match, I was getting kills like nobody’s business and barely dying. I’m also glad BT included clips of reg guns as well as melee (so it has less of a chance of being a melee only glitch).
I’ve been having this issue for about 5 days. I don’t even have the KD for it. Not the skill for it. Sometimes i have great games and sometimes ok games. But lately. My aim assist just turns off. I tried switching aim assist types and nothing. My guns will deal way less damage than they usually do. One instance i recall very well was from last night where i had a close encounter with someone, i have a kastov 762 he had a Glock or whatever it’s called in game, i put 4 shots on chest and neck area, i get insta melted. Kill cam showed him shooting me in the knee, that one hit marker was red and i was down. I wasn’t even damaged before hand. I don’t get it man 🤦🏻♂️
My personal experience was on SND when i hit a guy 3 times with the shield and he hit me once with his shield and instantly killed me while I had full health. Yeah I believe in SBD
Warzone 2 SBMM is pure garbage. I have a .9 KD and got killed by Joe Wo a few weeks ago. I'm bottom 200,000 players in the world and he's top 15. Literally reeeetarded
I was thinking of buying Modern Warfare II, but I decided to buy both of the remastered Spider Man games on PC instead. Thanks for the heads up and saving me money BT, and Merry Christmas everyone!
The only people that will be playing the next cod most likely will be all 9 year Olds screeching at eachother. I don't see anyone competive playing cod in the future.
Played the free trial and used the Fennec and the PDSW until I had unlocked the Fennec. Sometimes it felt like I had insane aim-resist and other times it just took my entire mag to kill someone. Trust me, my aim is dead on and it has been that way for more than a decade. This game is even worse than Cold War when it comes to hit registration and aim resist, which takes some doing, lol.
Went 25/0 on Santa Sena, then on next map (Taraq), went 0.06. Only effectively a -4 K/D bit I was getting spawn sniped on hills at the back of the map by AI sitting on the clock tower with a x4 scope (when it gave me the Killcam - i've noticed killcams often don't get shown when the games really pissed at you). Even the XMR would only give me hit markers on this Bot. It's not a skill based system. It's a player nerf and punishment system. It appears to be the AI who get buffed not Noob players - so how does that help new players. System is absolutely stupid.
After getting Orion i can say the biggest proof is the spawns. If you're frying and going crazy the enemy will spawn right behind you. If they manipulate the spawns, why would they not manipulate dmg / hit reg / ping / etc.. I truly believe something is going on in this game especially if you go to a game like Overwatch, league, fortnite right after you'll notice a consistent hit reg compared to COD. It's actually crazy, and at this point, if true, i hope Activision gets sued into the abys.
I have noticed netcode and hit detection issues. I tend to play with the same people e every day. Sometimes it feels like I can spray in someone’s general direction and they just sit instantly. Other times I’m having to pull out every stop, flash bang, riot shield on back and ak 47 with a canted laser just to compete. I’ve never noticed an issue with dmg itself. Just difficulty to hit targets. It feels like hit zones vary in size wildly from match to match.
I’m so unsure about what’s happening here. I have a 1.65 K/D and a 1.15 W/L. Not really sure where that puts me exactly on the skill curve but I never see stuff like this in matches unless there are blatant connection issues. And the worst I typically get is the instant death effect in games with roughly 60 ping where it feels like you die in one shot to everything but kill cams still show you taking normal damage.
How about, how many times they start spawning the last person you killed right behind you? I know they do it because they’ve even done it FOR me lol, Ive spawned with the person who killed me already in my cross hairs.
Yeah there's definitely some type of hit reg bug going on in the game for sure. But other than that f*** Call of Duty and Merry Christmas to you BT and Buddy 🤘❤️✌️
Bro as soon as I’ve started mastering the game. I’m dying to fucking starting pistols while I’ve got a full auto m13 47 and a bunch and the vaznev. It’s ridiculous. This is proof they’re hindering our experience in order to make it easier for these shit players
I’ve had the same thing with the riot shield way before the riot shield nerf. It happened within the first month the game was out and I’m surprised I didn’t think much of it before.
This game WILL kill you. Notice how when you're camping, trying not to die, everyone you kill WILL come back and try to kill you, and no matter what you do, one of them WILL succeed. It's kind of like they're bots... Or notice how you can't have a positive kdr because half of the time you can only get 1 kill before you die, and the other half you'll die without getting a kill. Sure the game will throw you a good game after force feeding you enough defeat, but when the game decides you need to die, it will find a way. Everyone dies, there are no exceptions. You can try to hide, you can camp, your team can even try to protect you, but the game will find you and create an unavoidable death for you. Whether it's random explosions, getting wall banged, players becoming invincible so they can wade through your team to kill you, or just spawning someone behind you. You literally can't not die. Please tell me I'm not crazy!
I have multiple clips with the shield (I have completed the 1000 kill challenge) I have had to hit people 8 times and still not kill them, I have one where the teammate of the guy I was hitting mag dumped me, reloaded, and mag dumped me again all while I am on my 5th, 6th, 7th hitmarker with the shield. Skill Based has gone too far, the game senses you are doing well in a game and will actively lower your health and damage. Until they prove us all wrong with actual game data (they wont) the theories will keep spiraling.
I think it has to do with scores, usually near the end of matches when the game wants it closer. You can see weird thing happen as if the game is trying to artificially make it "even" and closer.
My S.A.E. kill streak freezes sometimes mid match, preventing me from actually launching the sae or moving after picking up the tablet. I was thinking they tried nerfing me mid match
Melee is very obviously bugged especially with the riot shield after its nerf. I also think people tend to forget how many bugs there are in this game. I personally have never had a situation like these until I started using melee weapons for camos. Shotguns are inconsistent as hell and Quick Fix starts health regen if you are on an objective point so most clips have an explanation.
honestly think having dmz and warzone all going through one server / app is a part of the reason for the bad connection and bad hit detection. i swear as soon they started crossing the games into warzone whatever it is that's when all these bugs just drastically surfaced i think they need to go back to just content that's in the game "campaign, multiplayer, spec ops," then have dmz and warzone run completely seperate
Don't know if there is skill based damage but there are genuinely tons of bugs and problems with hit/damage registration. And those problems seem to depend on lobbies too. Probably something to do with ping maybe idk...
After watching this: is there skill based damage yes or no?
Yea 100% this game is BS
Activision ceast & desist order coming soon! Lolol I believe it 100%. I’ve lost gunfights that are zero explanation of how they could have happened besides this
Yessir
@@mcgarner1992 I really hope they get sued
Yes %100,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000!
Do not stop covering this, the more this is brought to light the more this will eventually snow ball into mass exposure! hopefully this will make people wake up!
Been 3 years nothings changed
After seeing this and experiencing it for myself just like all of you, does anyone honestly still think that Big Tech would never rig electronic election voting and tabulation machines especially when most are designed to be able to externally manipulate as stated in the machines instruction manuals?? Just a thought......
could be staged with a modded lobby. you dont know.
Its not going to stop nothing. Buying stuff give you easier lobbies. Nothing surprises me no more.
You can literally go find the patent on google, there is no exposure needed. People are just dumb as bricks and suck, so they don't realize it BECAUSE THEY'RE GETTING BOOSTED
"iTs NoOOt reAl" yeah right you fucking clowns
** Not directed at the OP!!!!! Just my two cents on the topic **
as a cod veteran I can 100 say it don't feel the same anymore. the game plays us now and that's why I feel pure frustration and zero enjoyment from playing cod these days
been playing first person shooters for over 20 years and I can say without a doubt that Warzone has been the most trivial shooter I've ever played...now I know why
Trueeee,i met tones of frustrated&raging players in this cod comparing with other cod's.
In the Online Multiplayer Justice System, Skill-Based offenses are considered especially heinous. The dedicated UA-camrs who investigate these vicious felonies are known as the "Detectives Of Online Retention-Biased Infection and Negligence (DOORBIN). These are their stories:
-Law and Order: DOORBIN intro
😂😂😂😂😂😂
This deserves an award
Ahahaha! This needs to be pinned.
This shit has me rolling
I been bingein' SVU 😂
I'm starting to think that the game isn't "buggy" as much as it's intentionally screwy in order to maintain plausible deniability about all this match rigging stuff
Even with all the intentional rigging its still also buggy as F
I definitely think it is more intentionally rigged than just being buggy too. The amount of point blank with shotguns I had encountered or hit markers with snipers especially on shoulders meanwhile I started shredding later really does convince me that skill base damage also comes in effect along with skill base matchmaking.
@@0QualityOverQuantity I mean rigging sports has been a thing since the dawn of time. They were rigging baseball games back in the 20s and now they’re rigging tournaments 😂
@@0QualityOverQuantity it doesn’t matter entertainment can be rigged unless it’s classified as a sport (for example ufc is now changed from sport to entertainment so now it could be legally rigged)
The plausible deniability comes from the fact that everyone is having an experience relative to skill level and people who regularly hover within or below avg KD range have no complaints. Because skill-based is real
This is why Activision calls this the most advanced Call of Duty
most advanced algorithm to rig your game live
Fucking facts...
Advance meaning the AI crap they integrated xD
I’ve definitely experienced these issues where center mass shots at close range don’t even register. The weird one is when aim assist goes wonky and makes your aim seemingly go away from the target.
Literally pushes your aim away even on mouse and key
Every time that happens I have to tel myself “there’s no way I just did that”
I've had quite a few times on shipment where I was dead center mast on someone, I was using a shotgun and would shoot and nothing, no hitmarker or anything and then I'd suddenly drop dead. Watch the replay and it would show that I didn't even shoot when I clearly shot them.
@@tygerman2038 does it give you like a split second delay? And then you watch the killcam and it doesn’t even show you shoot?
@@Ariez___ all the time. There's been times where I've watched the kill cam and the other player was nowhere near where I was firing at and it made me look stupid, even though at the time when I was shooting it was dead on and should have killed them.
First couple of games on, perfect. Game 4 and 5 onwards, walking in sludge and movement as well as Damage is nerfed. It's real.
I bet it is lol.
I notice that too after a couple of games
Yup and then when you’re getting owned at the end of the game , suddenly the nerds go away and you can move and play fine. It’s wild.
I’m a regular hood dude that does food reviews on my UA-cam channel
@@SevenHunnid who asked?
Don’t you love shooting some level 30 player 3 times first and they turn and instantly kill you. Keep in mind you shot them 3 times before they even started engaging with you
@@Skateandcreate9 real
Activision is applying same strategy on Call of Duty as EA Games for FIFA. Balancing the gameplay for the side that they want by using all the statistics available. It is clear that looks like we just win gunfights if the game allows you.
Activision should take accountability for the frustration that they are creating on the player base.
Also same strategy as movie theater arcade games from when you were a kid lmao
@@GrabbaBeer the arcade strategy is different I must say. The players were playing against hard AI's and the game cycle was made to be short for high turnaround of players/users.
This is different. We pay for a full game which the skilled players are clearly penalised because of their statistics. The game shouldn't interfere with the skills for fair play.
At the end of the day we just ask Activision to remove the SBMM and the SBD for a fair play.
Im not a great player, but if even with that Im being penalised, why should I continue to play the game?
This is funny because all these kids who came out crying how fast you died and how the game has zero skill. Now has to deal with this.
@@luisfreitas886 I know it’s different im saying it’s a similar system with the same goal. To increase playing and revenue
These patents were implemented into most games with a skill gap, is rife on ''War Thunder'' a game i played to escape the unfairness in COD.. Too bad, it's on that as well.
This is kinda my theory behind us not having hard numbers on weapon stats. If they provided those hard numbers, it would be a really easy to compile tons of evidence that this exists. For example, someone testing uses a weapon that does 50 base damage. They land x amt of shots resulting in y amount of damage.
I've also had the thought that maybe it's not completely damage, but perhaps they nerf your multipliers instead. For example they kill off any body shot dmg multiplier or make those hit zones smaller for the one being nerfed. This game is very sus
This is funny because all these kids who came out crying how fast you died and how the game has zero skill. Now has to deal with this.
@@Brain_Food- Fock ur mom
EXACTLY. It's so sad.
Also why the cod.tracker is still not released, they dont want us checking the stats of those bad players that constantly get “lucky” kills on us.. have you wondering how lil timmy first time touching cod is able to keep up with you stat wise, they are trying to hide a lot from us lmao
Sbmm is the worst thing that has happened to cod I mean who wants to sweat every match, also sbmm has alot of workaround so people can destroy noobs so if anything it makes the problem worst
I’m glad i stopped playing COD for a while, and touch some grass unlike these nerds out here.
It's Engagement based matchmaking
Is activision faut btw.
@@Zoomer_Boi You're still a nerd, look at your account name - dad jokes aside THIS COD AND MW19 ARE FRAUD AND WE SHOULD TAG TEAM SUPLEX JOE CECOT
This is funny because all these kids who came out crying how fast you died and how the game had zero skill. Now has to deal with this.
Im gonna go on a hugeee stretch here but this is seriously pissing me off. I have a hunch that im experiencing some sort of skill based crashing? It sounds ridiculous and quite frankly it is, but right after a 110 kill game in shipment, i get on track to doing it again and crash the minute it starts speeding up. There are no signs of stutters or any performance bluffs that could lead to a crash. And after that, the next game my M4 is doing FAR less damage and im getting instakilled by smgs left right and center. I could just be mad but I feel like there’s something else.
I finally feel vindicated being called a conspiracy theorist…this is some gross stuff and I feel like this is grounds for a lawsuit against the company for deceptive and discriminatory practices.
Does this mean ExclusiveAce’s damage testing is useless?!?! There’s no true set damage so we really can’t get real data even if we tried…
Ace is shillish
Indeed it is 100% consumer fraud and I don't care one bit if those pieces of shit think they reserve the right, everyone should get opportunity for 100% refund no questions asked
@@AmericaIsADeathCult really? How
well they do have a patent you can literally go find it for yourself, it's disgusting.
I'd also like to be part of the class action lawsuit once it's live to get my $70 beta test fee reimbursed
@@AmericaIsADeathCulthe rides the cod cock
I noticed after I do really well for afew games I’ll get into a lobby where I’m literally being spawned infront of people who are already aiming down their sites and approaching that area or my bullets will become weaker. I also noticed when I surpass the games expectations of me for that lobby, it’ll literally start holding me back from scoring, spawning me far away from the action until the leader gets to 28 kills. Once he gets to 28 kills I noticed a glitch in my movement and suddenly I’m playing like a pro again but it doesn’t matter cause the game literally held me down at second to last place
I see that same glitxh when the algorithm changes..almost like an FOV change but barely i dunno but deffo noticed this too
I encountered a massive glitch last night. I started rage quitting these kind of lobbies that are meant to be punishment lobbies for playing well. I would restart the entire game, sometimes my entire pc. Matchmake. Get a Great lobby. Balanced. Did this multiple times. Every time I did I'd get my chopper gunner and start getting some kills in it, only to be immediately disconnected from the server right in the middle of using the chopper. This happened to me multiple times last night, and I had NO other server connection issues otherwise all day yesterday or today.
@@Bigmanoncampus888 I saw somebody comment this same thing the other night. They were running an experiment and everytime they got their copper it would disconnect them 😂
Yeah and THAT'S what keeps you coming back!! I haven't been able to STOP playing this game since I bought it and I'm NOT a real gamer lol ..... there's a difference between competition and brain hacking or whatever you want to call it. This is really no different than Video Poker in a casino rather than a regular random slot machine. Video Poker requires a little skill but the game is still calculating how you play, I can tell because although I'm not a math genius I've played enough long hours that I without even really knowing my brain is doing this, I must be calculating some type of pattern similar to counting cards if you will, because when certain cards come out in a certain order, I just instinctively know this machine isn't ready to give back anything and it's the same thing on any one I play anywhere so much that I've noticed that most times jackpots I've hit come without holding ANY CARDS. The SAME experience is happening in THIS GAME. I can't explain it but after playing for only a little over two months, I can tell when a player or game just doesn't feel right, things are off, certain ways I move are manipulated, certain players are moving faster than others etc., It's very weird to explain but I KNOW that's the reason that keeps me coming back!! This "Skill Based Damage" I've discovered thanks to all the people out there whether a mathematician or not., intuitively you know that something is just off and you're right because IT IS and it's BECAUSE it's PROGRAMMED TO DO THAT!!!
I just started thinking about all my FFA games I've played and what you're describing here is exactly what happens to me. I'll have 20 something kills and just shredding, 10 kills above everyone else, and all of a sudden im spawning near no one, getting spawn killed, bullets aren't doing jack shit, then all of a sudden im tied with 3 other people at 28 kills struggling to find people to kill.
People called me an idiot for even considered SBD was a thing. Glad to see other people are getting clips of being live-nerfed as well
They're the idiots, and I will gladly suplex them for you
Uses to play pro brother, this has been a thing since black ops 1. Back then it waspre subtle but obvious to me!
@@run4fun143 no sbmm was a thing since black ops 1 and it was actually used how it was supposed to
Skill based damage is a new thing they started using in 2019 along with the new unfair sbmm algorithm they cooked up
@deediedededoe love the input however you don't know what you don't know.
I played cod for money, I went to massive lans with top players back in cod 2 cod 4, OG mw2 days etc...
It's obvious now more then ever, a restard could see it now without looking. They didn't have patents on it back in the day as it took Manu law suits, and it was more subtle back then, more subliminal but still obvious for people who competed.
I was in the trenches trying to wake people up back then, it's guys like you that wait for some authority or patentz to point out the obvious 😆
Yall are the legging indicators, the whole world is controlled by elite who pull strings in all sectors of society. Gaming was just the last industry in entertainment before manipulating augmented reality.
Your in a matrix you clearly cannot see already without augmented reality. But it's ignorance from people like you that will accept everything cause of your social amd authority bias blinding your independent experience.
@@run4fun143 my God dude it's just a fact lmao no need to write a novel sorry but I'm not reading all of that and I'm sorry to tell you it's a newly customized algorithm my friend had a pvp centered game with a system like this I even made it myself so please don't tell my how skill based algorithms work
Skill based damage is 100% in this game. When I started playing I consistently 2 shot people with the M14 to the body at medium range. After doing pretty well for most of the day I started to notice, along with getting placed in games with nonstop campers (telltale sign of SBMM at work), the M14 suddenly needed 3 and sometimes 4 shots to the body even with the same attachments.
I notice that the kill spots seem to shrink
I have shot people in the head
Like taking off their ear and it’ll miss when I’m doing good
I use the single shot sb and if I do too good I find hitting them is impossible and it needs two shots
Weapons get buffed and nerfed along the line? Wow, this is absolute proof for skill based damage!!!!!!!!!!
@@shuneughu4244I noticed aswll I was using a 1 tap headshot tap fire weapon for camo grind. I needed headshot so my headshot percentage was really high. Out of nowhere it became a 2 tap headshot and a 2 tap to the body. I lost all headshot multiplier which was obvious damage drop off. Then when I came back to the weapon after completing other it was a 1 tap headshot again😭
This game was supposed to surpass Modern Warfare 2019 but instead the game developers self imploded Modern Warfare 2022.
I got every mastery camo so I only play when I’m drunk so I can definitely tell if skill based damage and aim exist exists and I’ve came to the conclusion it does
Once the mastery camo is done, im done with MP.
Recently unlocked Orion. Have barely touched the game since, lol.
I stopped playing 3 days before the dxp went off went on earlier first 2 games my guns did damage after I started playing for an hour or 2 I instantly noticed the lobby differences.... fuck cod onwards from 2023 legit
Got Orion and just started sniping on knockout and prisoner rescue I like it more than warzone
@@Vegapunkk since I got orion I play maybe an hour every few days now
Their patent literally says it can change damage mid game. The only way you can get a patent is by showing it can work. Activision can say they don't use it but the fact they HAVE it is enough. How would we know truthfully?
Bout time you're all catching on! CoD is taking you all for a ride. No wonder they left out so many classic core features on launch... those 3000 devs were busy rigging the game the whole time!!!
Yrah theyll slowly leak those missing core features to keep us playing in hope thst it gets better..CoD is dead...
This game was purposely meant to destroy Call of Duty... 3000 woke-devs
Yeap saw this in cold snore and haven’t bought ever since. Cod is dead
This is funny because all these kids who came out crying how fast you died and how the game has zero skill. Now has to deal with this.
@@stonymontana9773 Cold War was at least decent, without the sbmm it was easily top 8 all time
I've noticed a lot of players that seem to have a "bullet sponge" or skill-based damage effect tend to be on players with skins that were purchased. Could just be a coincidence.
i didnt buy shit and it affected me hardcore, the very first game i make 7-20Kills Warzone and die Placed maybe top 10 Right after that it was like 7-12Games in a Row where i just did 0Kills died Instantly while my Meeles or Shots were judt gone from the game.
it's no coincidence dude
This is true. Hopefully more people see this
Skill based health too, I watched a killcam where this guy shot my teammate 6-7 times in the lower torso and I came around the corner right after but I died in 3 shots (right after spawning, so full health) and he was aiming in the same lower torso area on me as well. You cant make this shit up, the game is either 100% rigged, or 100% broken.
100% rigged by 3000 woke-devs
The same happened to me and I got a 1.00 k/d I lost so many games to skills based match making I’m piss off
@@peterhauk1914 woke devs? these are the same devs that made a mission where you hop over the us Mexico border and immediately start committing war crimes
@@BigBossBaker And that means?
The latter
I have never noticed hit markers as much as I noticed them in this game. They definitely nerf players.
Actually, I have clear proof of this since warzone 1. I have a clip of me shooting someone in the head with a sniper twice at 30m and only breaking all his plates, I didn't even get the down. But this does still happen frequently on the new game.
Damage issue us definitely felt, the amount of times I flick someone with the bryson 800 and it magically hit markers from point blank is infuriating, multiple games close to nuke with shotgun only and then shots suddenly stop killing
Fuck Shotguns tbh.
This is so true and frustrating
About to comment this same thing man 🤦🏽♂️
You get hitmarkers? I blast people from point blank range and I don't even get a hitmarker
@@Vipox92 yeah I get that too, recordings I need to slice up at some point where I've point blank 180'd slowdown to watch when shot is fired directly over and nothing, really annoying when I tune a gun for the tightest spread and highest damage (no damage boost from the attachment that gives higher damage with wider pellet spread cuz inconsistency is already a major problem) and still can't kill right over a body
THE PING SPIKE AT 5:53. After I got my K/D above average, I lost every other gunfight due to a lag spike which would occur as soon as my cursor crossed another player’s hit box. INSANE!!!!
I thought it was my internet screwing up at the worst time before getting a kill. I lost way too many gunfights because of that.
I always chalked it up to the hit detection in these games just getting worse and worse but this is getting so ridiculous it has to be some kind of SBMM.
It's one thing if it were to be consistent, but it's not. I accept there are players with better aim, hardware, experience. But it's not, one minute you are slaughtering the whole lobby, even with a couple of sweats (250), every shot hits were it should, at least you get the kills. a 65 mag seem to hold forever. Two or three matches in, one fkking guy takes the whole 65 mag point blank and still manages to run away. This game is so fkked up i do not even know where to start. How about getting sniped in Groundwar when loading in?, that's impossible but has happened. Mortars that hit you wherever you are, but when you do the same it hits ZERO. Magic bullets?
Bro just Google activision patent. It says it all
What? They literally have patents for what is going on. Filed in 2020.
I'm so glad to know I'm not crazy. I've been complaining about this kinda thing for along time. The only consistent thing in this game is the inconsistency.
that triple headshot clip at 9.25 is the proof that SB damage is absolutely real.
3 hits to the head still in the maximum damage range and no kill? Insane even the fact that a 2nd burst got a least one hit maker after that and no kill still. he had to get more hitmakers from a third burst all in the maximum damage range. Make it make sense, COD 4 had better hit detection or didn’t have the malicious code in it.
Or it’s a bug?
@@spaceowl5957 a bug that hasn’t existed for 15 years that just happens to be coinciding with the patents that Activision has filled that describes this exact scenario? Sure Jan, hit detection has never been perfect but the hits are registering because he’s getting hitmarkers. These hitmarkers are just doing less damage for some reason. After 15 years of making the same game it just can’t happen. Maliciousness makes more sense although if it was a bug/bad coding, that’s pathetic too and this game shouldn’t be played either way.
Then you should try 65 bullets from a minibak pointblank on a guy in Shipment, happened to me today. Emptied the whole thing and still the guy ran away. and i got fried reloading.
@@blackeastertheguy I am still yet to see any evidence of "skill based damage". I've experienced the discrepancies in damage done by my bullets in both warzone and multiplayer but this alone is not direct evidence of "skill based damage". We need something more than just random video clips. We need repeatable experiments which show the same thing taking place over and over again.
The way to prove skill based damage would be to get a group of low skill/kdr/ppm profiles and a group of high skill/kdr/ppm profiles and test the theory out by having them inflict damage on each other in a controlled environment then analyse if there are any discrepancies in damage and if so by what degree. This information could then be plotted onto a graph and we could see if there is any correlation between skill level and damage.
We all know this game is a pool of boiling excrement, what we need to know is if this has been done on purpose or whether its down to incompetence.
Hopefully someone with the time and know-how can thoroughly test this theory out so we have some definitive proof.
It’s crazy how it works. I’ve experienced it mid game . Straight up shooting at someone with my sights dead on them and literally didn’t kill them .
SBMM Should permanently stay in COD games honestly
But only in Ranked play
Now that I can agree on.
A patent was filed a month before mw2
was released which goes into detail
on how a players damage,health,hit
reg,audio and visuals will be
manipulated depending on the
players storyline (how well a player
is preforming online). This patent
was released for activision fps online
multiplayer.
That patent was from before MW19.
SBMM is ridiculous, I literally emptied a whole 50rd mag from akimbo x13 auto and still didnt kill the person
What a mess.
Absolutely, this past few weeks ive been getting hitmarkers from headshots, even using the best guns and still wont kill people. it feels like i paid $70 just to lose.
100% happening, dropped back in after a couple weeks after I dropped an 80 kill game next game it felt like none of my shots were registering and it was every other shot. Was thinking of saving the game play for you! Will do next time!
I've been reverse boosting and I can tell you there are some games where the enemy gets the kill on me despite loading bullets into them. Sometimes I load a full clip into them, or even get aim resist at times. It's super evident in reverse boosted lobbies to show how protected the bad players are.
Faded
How many games u reverse boost before u start popping?
@@judasbmx7731 5 games of throwing 2 games of fun, 5 games of afk is what I do
@@theredpillneo2296 you dont need to do that many games to reverse boost in mw2
@@yeeet6129 I do, worse players won’t need as many games but the more you pop off the more you get fucked quicker..
This is how my game plays every single day. When you have to commit 20+ bullets on each player they’ve virtually guaranteed you can’t wipe a full squad by yourself.
All I want for Christmas is Activision to go bankrupt. I hope BT's next video covers Skill Based Movement. No NOT sweaty YY spamming tiktok nerds, just regular good old pushing the left stick forward to try to move then constantly lagging and stumbling every single time you respawn. Yeah, they actually nerfed SPRINTING. Merry Xmas friends!
The last time I played this game (which was probably 3 weeks ago at this point) I got a hitmarker with a sniper to the head. Instantly quit and haven't played since.
idk how they can just blatantly ignore this shit and do nothing about it I am 100% convinced Activision blizzard are trying to ruin their game why else would they actively keep doing shit like this it makes no sense otherwise
As someone who heavily uses the expedite 12 shotgun, i can very much confirm this wack ass hit reg. There has been so MANY times ill point blank someone dead center in the chest and all the pellets just "miss". Then other times I'll one shot someone from 100ft. Like wtf
You're 100% right - the worst thing is just the inconsistency that we experience every day. That's purely the reason for all of this, and for all of the assumptions, doubts, confusions.
Funny how even the network status gadget (ping + packet loss) hides when you're dead. (Was it always like this ?) Its kinda useless if we can't see these metrics while we're dead, like they are hiding the nerfing...
I 100% believe that both got detection and damage get adjusted in-match. And I think it is applied strongest when you begin the game and go on a long streak without dying. When you return from the first death it will be VERY DIFFICULT to get more quick kills and go on another steak. Totally believe that hit detection tanks for me so that it’s 1 death-1 kill ratio until the end of the game.
Had one of the best matches in shipment..both teams running and gunning for each other no rocket launchers no bloody camping no grenades..then after that it went to shit so £80 well spent on the fkn game .
I didn't believe it at first purely because it's insane but after playing more (I play in the top bracket lobbies) I can definitely feel myself get nerfed. I'll drop 80 kills four games in a row then allnof a sudden my guns get no hit reg or shoot marshmallows and I can barely crack 50 kills even tho nothing changed
As well, Warzone especially.
Pumping 10 chest and head shots with hitmarkers while getting downed with 4 shots to the leg 💀
I’ll be getting a pretty good amount of kills and my gun will be an actual gun then next round everybody laser beams the shit out of me and my gun shoots pillows it just makes me so pissed I turn the game off
Dude never ever thought about that before in any COD but I noticed something really really weird is going on in MW2 and wz2 like fully plated shooting somebody from behind and I mean a full mag barley missed anything dude is turning around in slow mo and litterly 2 shots me to the legs split second dead fully plated like WTF! I mean he wasn't even plated up no 3 shield and a total bot from his cam aim all over the place and then 2 bullets hit im dead! 👀
And I feel like it's always in the botlobbys like I'm shooting plastic BBs! The same multiplayer 3-4 games in a row I'm frying destroying everybody in the lobby and suddenly I'm in a lobby and can't kill barley somebody even in a total botlobby with clueless players! Like boom Im dead 2 shot 1 shot felt like Im getting snipped every single time but actually get shot with a smg again players who missing nearly every shot then hit one and I'm gone! The weirdest experience I ever had in any cod before! The same with aimassist it's crazy inconsistent like one lobby it feels like I'm having aimbot barley have to aim my self it just sticks to people another game I have to try my hardest to tracks somebody!
@@jingelegjingelek4040word!!! happene to me a loooooottttttt!! have a theory, what if the hit multiplier is broken? like in xclusive ace videos about the riot shield?! what i mean, if he was already fighting with someone (what they did in my cases) hit multipliers will apply on a new target (me in that case) ? could this be the issue ? so my enemy is fighting someone else, i shot and hit first, broke plates first , he turns and fire 2-3 shots and i’m dead 😂
Insane? What,? They literally filed patents in 2020 for these features. Easy to look up and find.
5:23
Two headshot hitmarkers, two upper bodies.
Homie hit him four times outside of the penetration hits, with two hits being headshots. Absolutely no way in any other CoD this man would still need to shoot.
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Watching back at literally .25 speed and the dude is just barely off to the right of his target. With a shotgun, unless hes rocking slugs, that's an easy hit. Even with slugs it feels like a limb shot.
im just sick of the few times when im playing where someone can kill me through a concrete wall or a car but i cant kill someone through a wooden door.... not to mention theres always the guarantee of someone running around with a riot shield and pistol and with a scope on it so that when you turn to run(bc i dont have a semtex with every loadout) they switch to their pistol and shoot you in the back
If you're playing shipment you literally have to run thermite on every class and if you aren't dont even complain about Riot shielders lol
Just glad to know that I'm not freaking insane... After about 10 matches it kicks in and all of a sudden it takes 5 extra shots to kill with whatever weapon you wanna use
I thought i was the only one. When SBMM activates the damage definetly goes down. I hit a guy twice in the chest point blank with FTAC Recon and dont kill him while he kills me in 2 bullets with the Bizon, for example. When SBMM hits its literally unplayable and it feels insanly rigged.
When it comes to the shield, Ace made a video about it, its just buggy af. I dont think this phenomenon applies to the shield. Its more about getting 10 hitmarkers on the head and then getting deleted in 10ms.
Every game is being manipulated by Activision. But yet, people keep playing this.
I believe there is skill based damage hell last night I had about 5-10 games where everything was fine and for a handful games after that it felt like I was firing BB's at the enemy.
I play and I’m fine it’s just internet something with connection and just feels like you’re shooting marshmallows
I don't need the proof I've been playing cod all my life and I know for a fact just by playing there's skill based damage or some form of damage mitigation/buff going on. In every other game a guns ttk is the guns ttk 99.9% of the time. But in cod your ttk is completely inconsistent from enemy to enemy, the kill cams reveal this if you can see their plates and health.
At first I thought it was just awful hitreg but now I’m starting to think otherwise. Great video as always man.
Difference between bf2042 and mw2 is…
Bf2042 is An actual bugged release
Mw2 is nerfing you in real time 😊
After watching this video I actually think it’s bad hit reg even more
@@Yamom395 BF2042 is way better nowadays
@@NPFfumbi why?
It still same shit after 5 months. Guy one-two taps me with vaznev while I needed to land 4-5 shots. Same builds, close quarter shipment map that doesnt really affect damage range drop or something
Considering how many visible, experienced bugs there are, just imagine how many bugs there are that we CANNOT see. It seems like most of the bugs I’ve seen in this new cod are due to what we call “race conditions” in the software engineering/dev field. Essentially it’s when two different ‘actions’ or ‘events’ are fired at the same time, and because most tasks are executed synchronously, the computer has to decide which ‘ event’ to fire first, in which the second ‘event’ then has to wait, stall, or finish executing depending on the language. Sometimes this results in some bugs that cause both of these events to collide so you’ll see bugs that allow users to exploit the game by firing two different actions at the same exact time, etc. I feel that these insane damage nerfs are due to race conditions in the game deciding to nerf you, and analyzing how much to nerf you at the same time, which results in damage buggy town.
@@SixxWolfZx I don't think you read the rest of my comment. I mention at the end that the game trying to nerf you may cause another set of issues that cause our games to bug out.
omg this makes so much sense because when i first started playing this game i noticed my bullet damage was so high but now im higher rank i just see and hear hit markers and mag dumps should be kills this is why i stopped playing, i get more fun playing apex and fortnite....i hate that i spent for vault edition and i never buy cod games anymore since 2010 lol
I just had an incident on Warzone 2. I was shooting a guy pointing blank while aiming down sight. He had no idea I was there then turned and killed me. Kill cam showed him taking absolutely no damage. It’s either skill based damage or shitty servers
No clips from me but;
An FSS hurricane should not be out-gunned by a pistol.
Everything is rigged, in this case even if I get a 3 hit jumpstart on someone, I will still lose.
I think there’s skill based dead silence too. I run dead silence pretty often as well as ghost and after watching kill cams where enemies spin around as I walk up on them, they can hear my foot steps clear as day even though I should be silent
Could be high alert. I don't think dead silence makes you immune to that but cold blooded does.
Did teammates were near? They could potentially set you up
The MWII reddit is quite depressing these days, the amount of people that flat out get defensive when you talk about any rigging is weird, especially after all the clips and charts showing it most definitely does exist. its almost like Activision plated AI bots there to defend it. its so strange
I have experienced everything in this video on MP and Warzone. It’s disgusting how bad it is at times. I experience it every game. Early match or late match. I get insta deleted fully plated
I’ve noticed when I’m doing really well all of a sudden my aim starts getting violently thrown to the left or right when I’m in gunfights causing me to lose.
I love this live reaction kind of video BT! We can laugh together lol
And yes, skill-based damage is real. It has become more apparent especially on Shipment
I have the aim assist issue all the time where I’m doing all the criteria to activate it and it either doesn’t do anything or it disengages partially through. I also have encountered daily where I’m hammering someone form 5 feet away (close enough you aren’t missing a shot) and get a 2-3 shot advantage on them to just be dropped by them I have sooo many videos of that
Keep going bro! You’re doing a service! Hopefully we will get a casual playlist without sbmm
Please stop hoping for nothing. Wasye of energy. They have patents for what's going on
@@UnknownSource08 just because they have patents for it doesn’t mean they can’t make a separate playlist if enough people make noise. Stop crying like a little bihhh and help us make some noise.
Plus everyone knows they have patents for it
They will never do that
This is why they disband lobbies so you can’t test out your theories with the enemies lol
Wether it's a hit registration bug or if it's truly SBD, it's still really odd that infinity ward hasn't addressed this at all, especially since the game has been out for two months.
Bruh it’s been like this since 2019
I've had many matches similar to the knife video on shipment but were my bullets Pulp Fiction around guys when I'm ADS center mass at mid range. Even semi auto
I wouldn’t mind sbmm if the game was actually GOOD. I played Cold War through it’s life cycle and I didn’t mind the sbmm cause the game was great
Yeah treyarch somehow can make something good out of the shit actvision tell them to do. Shoutout treyarch 👍
I uninstalled MW2 a few days ago. I had gotten a win and then just assumed I was getting worse, because I had such a hard time killing anybody after that. I had such a bad expeiernce I didn't see the point in playing anymore ... I didn't even consider something like this was going on lol.
Merry Xmas from Australia Brother. Just know you've been a great outlet throughout the year when times are shitty and boring . Onwards and upwards for the upcoming year you bloody beauty.
Skill based hit reg is definitely real, skill based ping too, my ping sometimes spikes the very moment I enter a gunfight. Skill based spawns too...there's no end to the fuckery
Yes yes yes. This. Even when my brother walked pass and and stopped to watch me play. He even commented how I always start lagging whenever I get into a gun fight. It's bullshit.
And people think sbmm is really good for a player retention SMFH Merry Christmas everyone happy holidays
I had to stop playing even after only getting 4 Gold guns. I was going absolutely insane from the number of fights I was starting and losing, or just not having my shots register. Or starting the fight and having them whip around and absolutely melt me with an M4 in like a single frame after eating 2 shots already.
The worst times where when they were using the SAME GUN AS I WAS. It's like how is my AK losing to your AK even though I shot first and didn't miss?
I’ve never had moments like these before but I have had moments where I hit 2 headshots and 2 body shots with an ar and the people don’t die whereas when I first get on I’ll melt people instantly. It’s definitely sbmm or skill based damage
on the flipside of this, I've definitely had some really bad streaks before going .65 k/d in multiple games on shipment while grinding, and then I'll get a couple kills that I absolutely should not have gotten
I’m almost certain there is skill based damage in the game. Had a few bad games (unfortunately am past the refund window) where my gun wasn’t doing anything. Then next match, I was getting kills like nobody’s business and barely dying. I’m also glad BT included clips of reg guns as well as melee (so it has less of a chance of being a melee only glitch).
sb-damage or bad server response either way until they can fix this crap I am never playing it again.
I’ve been having this issue for about 5 days. I don’t even have the KD for it. Not the skill for it. Sometimes i have great games and sometimes ok games. But lately. My aim assist just turns off. I tried switching aim assist types and nothing. My guns will deal way less damage than they usually do. One instance i recall very well was from last night where i had a close encounter with someone, i have a kastov 762 he had a Glock or whatever it’s called in game, i put 4 shots on chest and neck area, i get insta melted. Kill cam showed him shooting me in the knee, that one hit marker was red and i was down. I wasn’t even damaged before hand. I don’t get it man 🤦🏻♂️
My personal experience was on SND when i hit a guy 3 times with the shield and he hit me once with his shield and instantly killed me while I had full health. Yeah I believe in SBD
Warzone 2 SBMM is pure garbage. I have a .9 KD and got killed by Joe Wo a few weeks ago. I'm bottom 200,000 players in the world and he's top 15. Literally reeeetarded
I was thinking of buying Modern Warfare II, but I decided to buy both of the remastered Spider Man games on PC instead.
Thanks for the heads up and saving me money BT, and Merry Christmas everyone!
Best purchase you’ve ever made. Merry Christmas!
You’ve made a good choice my friend!
The only people that will be playing the next cod most likely will be all 9 year Olds screeching at eachother. I don't see anyone competive playing cod in the future.
Played the free trial and used the Fennec and the PDSW until I had unlocked the Fennec.
Sometimes it felt like I had insane aim-resist and other times it just took my entire mag to kill someone.
Trust me, my aim is dead on and it has been that way for more than a decade.
This game is even worse than Cold War when it comes to hit registration and aim resist, which takes some doing, lol.
Went 25/0 on Santa Sena, then on next map (Taraq), went 0.06. Only effectively a -4 K/D bit I was getting spawn sniped on hills at the back of the map by AI sitting on the clock tower with a x4 scope (when it gave me the Killcam - i've noticed killcams often don't get shown when the games really pissed at you). Even the XMR would only give me hit markers on this Bot.
It's not a skill based system. It's a player nerf and punishment system. It appears to be the AI who get buffed not Noob players - so how does that help new players. System is absolutely stupid.
After getting Orion i can say the biggest proof is the spawns. If you're frying and going crazy the enemy will spawn right behind you. If they manipulate the spawns, why would they not manipulate dmg / hit reg / ping / etc.. I truly believe something is going on in this game especially if you go to a game like Overwatch, league, fortnite right after you'll notice a consistent hit reg compared to COD. It's actually crazy, and at this point, if true, i hope Activision gets sued into the abys.
I have noticed netcode and hit detection issues. I tend to play with the same people e every day. Sometimes it feels like I can spray in someone’s general direction and they just sit instantly. Other times I’m having to pull out every stop, flash bang, riot shield on back and ak 47 with a canted laser just to compete. I’ve never noticed an issue with dmg itself. Just difficulty to hit targets. It feels like hit zones vary in size wildly from match to match.
I’m so unsure about what’s happening here. I have a 1.65 K/D and a 1.15 W/L. Not really sure where that puts me exactly on the skill curve but I never see stuff like this in matches unless there are blatant connection issues. And the worst I typically get is the instant death effect in games with roughly 60 ping where it feels like you die in one shot to everything but kill cams still show you taking normal damage.
How about, how many times they start spawning the last person you killed right behind you? I know they do it because they’ve even done it FOR me lol, Ive spawned with the person who killed me already in my cross hairs.
Yeah there's definitely some type of hit reg bug going on in the game for sure. But other than that f*** Call of Duty and Merry Christmas to you BT and Buddy 🤘❤️✌️
It's not a bug if it's intentional
@@thatguyjoe3649 okay cool merry Christmas man! ✌️
@@mikemagee2338 😂 Merry Christmas 🎅
Bro as soon as I’ve started mastering the game. I’m dying to fucking starting pistols while I’ve got a full auto m13 47 and a bunch and the vaznev. It’s ridiculous. This is proof they’re hindering our experience in order to make it easier for these shit players
I’ve had the same thing with the riot shield way before the riot shield nerf. It happened within the first month the game was out and I’m surprised I didn’t think much of it before.
This game WILL kill you. Notice how when you're camping, trying not to die, everyone you kill WILL come back and try to kill you, and no matter what you do, one of them WILL succeed. It's kind of like they're bots... Or notice how you can't have a positive kdr because half of the time you can only get 1 kill before you die, and the other half you'll die without getting a kill. Sure the game will throw you a good game after force feeding you enough defeat, but when the game decides you need to die, it will find a way. Everyone dies, there are no exceptions. You can try to hide, you can camp, your team can even try to protect you, but the game will find you and create an unavoidable death for you. Whether it's random explosions, getting wall banged, players becoming invincible so they can wade through your team to kill you, or just spawning someone behind you. You literally can't not die. Please tell me I'm not crazy!
Can't wait until the day we see a CoD competitor. I just want a game that works
Never gunna happen cod owns all the rights and bull shit any copy would get sued to hell since they are Ruthless..
Battlefield was a great competitor once, untill they decided to ruin it all.
@@alonemax2912 I bought that piece of trash
can’t wait on Halo to make a BR 😂
@@alonemax2912 if they didn't ruin it, Im pretty sure people would play BF over MW2
I have multiple clips with the shield (I have completed the 1000 kill challenge) I have had to hit people 8 times and still not kill them, I have one where the teammate of the guy I was hitting mag dumped me, reloaded, and mag dumped me again all while I am on my 5th, 6th, 7th hitmarker with the shield. Skill Based has gone too far, the game senses you are doing well in a game and will actively lower your health and damage. Until they prove us all wrong with actual game data (they wont) the theories will keep spiraling.
I think it has to do with scores, usually near the end of matches when the game wants it closer. You can see weird thing happen as if the game is trying to artificially make it "even" and closer.
My S.A.E. kill streak freezes sometimes mid match, preventing me from actually launching the sae or moving after picking up the tablet. I was thinking they tried nerfing me mid match
Melee is very obviously bugged especially with the riot shield after its nerf. I also think people tend to forget how many bugs there are in this game. I personally have never had a situation like these until I started using melee weapons for camos. Shotguns are inconsistent as hell and Quick Fix starts health regen if you are on an objective point so most clips have an explanation.
I think you’re probably right.
honestly think having dmz and warzone all going through one server / app is a part of the reason for the bad connection and bad hit detection. i swear as soon they started crossing the games into warzone whatever it is that's when all these bugs just drastically surfaced i think they need to go back to just content that's in the game "campaign, multiplayer, spec ops," then have dmz and warzone run completely seperate
Don't know if there is skill based damage but there are genuinely tons of bugs and problems with hit/damage registration. And those problems seem to depend on lobbies too. Probably something to do with ping maybe idk...
This is what I feel like too. They should have kept the old engine. This new game engine is garbage