NOTES: He is NOT an Electro-charge Chevreuse. He DOES NOT shred resistances. I never say this in the video so I’m not sure where people are getting this from haha. He is an off-field sub DPS that provides damage, energy refund and also buffs through cinder city artifacts. I wanted to mention this, but forgot to mention Over-Vape (overload/vape) which Ayato is quite proficient in. A composition with Ayato, Ororon, Xiangling and Bennett should be quite strong. Chasca over-vape would also be recommended with Furina, Ororon and Bennett. I tried to highlight more slept on characters in this video. If I don’t list a character, it means I don’t see how they gain much of a significant IMPROVEMENT from Ororon compared to what existed before. Obviously Neuvillette can use him but it doesn’t mean that Neuvillette has a new notable team archetype or is better because of Ororon existing. Appreciate the support on this one! Remember this is just a healthy discussion and a fun way to look into Ororon before he comes out. Thanks for watching and best of luck on any wishes you make! 🙌
Hello I subscribed after watching this video. I love the way you go about each possible ways a unit can be played. just an idea, can you make content on non-meta teams or builds (artifacts and weapons)? like Chasca non-meta yet fun teams (this would mean no furina and benney) I could think of C6 Kujo Sara buffing Chasca's electro bullets a lot! thank you for noticing!
@ For sure! I think it would be fun to explore what Chasca could do. I can’t guarantee when that will be out but I’d be interested in looking in other options she has available to her
@@Array_EB i think the confusion is people thinking dmg% is equally valuable as res shred the big difference is res shred is less common and ororon can actually run kazuha who can offer both or xilonen who can shred res
@@tagg3dsensei268 yes, please! Thanks for this idea :) I am a bit tired of everyone just putting Furina in every new team that comes up and not offering other options for people who do not have her or are not interested in her... (no offense intended, I don't mean this creator/video in particular, just speaking in general terms). I get that she is a good character and all, but it makes it seem like people who don't have her cannot have good teams anymore lol
I feel like someone that you overlooked who'd actually benefit a good amount from Ororon is our forgotten boy Freminet - at least with his intended use kit, Freminet wants both hydro and electro characters to trigger Frozen for his Shatter attacks and Superconduct for physical res shred, and is an on fielder who'd love more energy to trigger his burst more reliably!
@@pandorapanini6036 I actually originally included Eula / Freminet and had it recorded but I decided to remove it while editing because I wasn’t too sold on Ororon being any different than having Raiden or fischl in that spot. I think the buffs to superconduct and shatter alone will be the benefit to Freminet vs Ororon existing. It’s definitely an option but he himself is not the buff for those 2 I AM excited to see how they perform with these buffs though 👀
@@RazorNivekUltimate9000 Someone else already asked about her in the comments, so I didn't mention her. Array already responded to that person with his thoughts about Ororon w/Raiden but the summarized answer is that Raiden teams don't really care about Ororon.
As a newer player my first character was Sigewinne and till mualani came out I struggled non stop with a Gaming and Sigewinne Team. Ororon is a must have for me now.
Electro-Hydro teams kinda seems like Chevreuse with her being Electro-Pyro. But seems like Ororon isn't strictly ONLY electro/hydro which is pretty nice.
@@ucbrowser2447 he only need to have electrocharged reaction, doesnt matter how.. Even teams like overcharged, or hypercharged (hyperbloom electrocharged) still benefit from him
@@ucbrowser2447not only electrocharged, but also nightsoul aligned dmg. A pyro character that does nightsoul aligned damage, Mavuika wink wink, would let him play in other teams, such as overload, and as he gains nightsoul points when either electro or hydro characters hit opponents, that also includes overload teams with electro characters hitting opponents from on or off field, and also overvape since electro charged is a function in overvape. It can also work in a quicken or hyperbloom team, so I suppose that if Iansan is quicken/bloom based dps or even overloaded, Ororon would still be active in the team.
@ that’s not true. He’s still good with Furina especially if his artifact stats are focused on healing. Furina + Bennett is a very universal core these days for attack scalers
@ I played Bennet with furina at c0 with a healing bonus headpiece it’s shit because of bennet’s limitation of rarely overhealing the character because of his 70% hp limit so he can’t even trigger furina’s healing passive. Switching between characters to heal them for a c0 furina sounds terrible because your damage rotation windows are much shorter because you’re wasting Bennet buff and furina buff healing your supports to the point it’s better to just use yelan . Also a c0 furina will not have more than a 50% damage bonus in the first rotation because Bennet cannot heal them till they drop below 70%. And that will also be terrible for a lot of frontloaded characters
@@Chocolatemilk131 if you build him right he should be able to full heal himself, ororon, and then chasca in one tick each which is good enough for furina. besides, chasca doesnt do normal attacks, so she cant utilise yelan
Tartaglia is gonna be great with him, because of his passive. He has the best and fastest hydro application in the game, together they will do so much damage and I'm pretty sure, with help of Ororon and Fischl, Tartaglia will be able to do 2 bursts in one rotation, which deals great damage as well. Can't wait to get him
@muhammedbinnizar7197 let them hope, my man He obviously isn't the best hydro applier, but he is decent And it is a working comp, even if neuv is better
@@arehtman3329 I believe the original commenter is referring to how Tart’s riptide mechanic works. It’s the fastest, it’s great for AOE and it’s ~wet~ He’s a great enabler. Now imagine having Riptide and Ororon’s electro bouncing around a bunch of enemies, gonna be so satisfying…
@@cupofstew nah, I understand why that's strong and satisfying, I ain't got nothing against that Just addressed the dude who said neuv is gonna utilize that better, which is true, but he still has one of the most boring playstyles imo (I have him at c2r1)
New subscriber here! I’m so excited for Ororon, I already have my team prepared for him. It’ll be C6 Venti (res shred, reaction machine, massive battery, hypercarry), Ayato, Ororon, and Yelan/C6 Fischl depending on which element needs more application to keep the Electro-Charged reaction alive! I really like how positive your videos feel. It’s pretty exhausting to watch other creators who have to say something negative as a “joke” every 4 seconds when I’m just trying to understand character kits more. Thanks!!
@@MVP-Lol Alhaitham Ororon Ayato (burst dps) and Baizhu. Previous team was a cope burgeon team with the same characters but with Thoma instead of Ororon
I wanna use him with Neuvi personally. The artefact bonus looks pretty nice, plus with the fact he buffs charged attacks and groups enemies, so all in all it seems like he'd be a pretty good support for the water dragon.
I can't wait for Ororon! My favourite team is Electro-Charge with Furina, Yae Miko, Sigewinne and Xilonen. Ororon being able to use cinder city can make me be able to use Xilonen with my Arlecchino
Ever since 4.2 dropped I've been playing Cyno with Fischl/Beidou, Furina and Baizhu, I can't WAIT to replace the electro girls with Ororon. Cyno had several issues when he released but every few patches he gets even better/comfortable to play. \ (•◡•) /
@AliceMill69 stupid question. The most likely already have neuvi. And once they get c2 chasca there's plenty of time to save for her lol. Plus can just spend money.
From what i remember, his A4 passive didn't work if the active character wasn't hydro or electro (in the beta). But now, just with a normal attack you can use his A4 passive, making he much more flexible. A team i was thinking, was him with kinich and other 2 pyro characters, ororon can provide the new set bonus for kinich, 9 energy, if he is c6 a plus 30% atk and his ult taunts, taking focus from kinich and maybe grouping enemies. The other two characters probably would be, bennett for the atk buff and heal, and a good pyro aplicator. If mavuika can be that pyro aplicator, kinich and ororon will benefit a lot. When i get ororon i have to test his aplication, because if it is too much electro, kinich probably is not going to land 5 shots, and in the worst cenario, not even 4. But i have hope, because kinich and ororon are my favorites from natlan, and i want to play them in the same team🙏
I feel like as someone who doesn't have c6 fischl yet, ororon is a good buffer instead of damage dealer for Clorinde aggrevate team. Clorinde, Ororon, Nahida and Kazuha/Xilonen( I use Xilonen as my kazuna is used on old Otter premium team)
I remember in the stream it was mentioned he can kinda do some grouping not Kazuha level but still some, I was thinking maybe I could replace fischl in my raiden, Benny, fischl and cheveruse overload team with ororon to keep that electro application but to also get the grouping that allows me to make full use of raiden’s nuke damage to all enemies
I was thinking a pretty good team could be made from the upcoming banners... Lyney to make his hats that lure in opponents, then Ororon to put up an AoE electro applicator that can stay up for a little bit and repeatedly apply elctro, then swap to Neuvilette and go kamehameha on the group of unfortunate enemies... this triggers a bunch of electro-charged reactions with the water, and when the hat from Lyney pops, you get a quick AoE Vaporize (or overload, depending on which the game prioritizes) on those foes as well. this might not be a perfect team, but I IS a viable one and has the benefit of all these characters being on the next 2 banners, so newer players can actually use this team
I REALLY want him; I think he'd be a lot of fun in a Neuvillette taser team. Is it gonna be better than the stock-standard Furina-Kazuha-Xilonen? No of course not; but it's fucking Neuvillette. He's more than strong enough to let you dick around with a more goofy build and still be an Extinction Level Event. Gimme Ororon, Neuvillette, and Zhongli! I really want to make a team with those 3 and my Kazuha! Just gotta hope I can bring Ororon home without wasting too many wishes...
Definitly going to try and pull one copy of him on Chasca's banner, if I get Chasca in the process then hooray. Once I get him I'm going to save the rest for 5.3
With the Cinder City set, he's actually more versatile than you think, since he's the only Natlan character that can buff Dendro/Anemo team. So hypercarries like Xiao/Wanderer/Kinich/Alhaitham will appreciate having him in the team solely because of Cinder City buff, and his burst has a taunt which is even more support for these teams. I'm thinking Wanderer Faruzan Ororon Bennett, or Alhaitham Xingqiu Ororon Kuki/Baizhu
I can see potential for Dendro but not Anemo. Anemo would imply that there is an Anemo aura on the character and Ororon is triggering the swirl by reacting with Anemo (which doesn’t happen). Scroll’s description says the holder of the set needs to be the one who triggers the reaction for the two elements to have their damage buffed, and swirl is always triggered by the anemo character. This means Ororon himself cannot buff anemo with cinder city. Only a cinder city anemo support can buff anemo through swirl. I could be wrong but I’m pretty sure this is the case.
Basically a side grade to fichle with less damage but more aoe he's neat and a nice catch but as someone with c6 fichle i don't see myself using him unless I get him to c2 or c6 in the distant future. I find it harder and harder to get 4 stars up to c6 as there just so many of them now like fichles hasn't gotten a banner since 4.1
I think Chevreuse and Ororon would synergize perfectly in electro dps teams. Both of them shredding electro resistance further with an additional hydro sub-dps for extra damage and a nice increase of output you would get from both the dps and Chevreuse vapes would be goated.
I was planning to use him with kinich for his cinder city buff, but i wonder if he will apply too much electro? I can easily slot in yae with thoma and emilie when im bored of bennett, but fischl messes up the burning reaction quite a lot. Is ororons application as fast as fischl’s?
I can build a team including Raiden Yelan Furina and Ororon cause Raiden will recharge energy Yelan and Furina can apply hydro off field so we can make either Raiden or Ororon as the main dps
@@Raykushi I feel like it’s hard to tell since Childe teams really value the vapes from Xiangling and his own burst but I can see it being decent. I think something like over-vape with Childe, Ororon, Xiangling, Bennett being good
I wonder if soup teams would benefit from him as well. You don't trigger as much electro-charged, but you still usually have it so your pyro characters can trigger vape and overload at the same time, and with Mavuika coming out soup teams might come back as well.
Yes in my notes that I pinned I mention that I forgot to highlight “soup” (over-vape) which is notably really good with Ayato. Chasca also will have a good soup team with Furina, Ororon and Bennett
My plans with Ororon are to put him in the Noelle team, he'll battery Noelle, proc EC from furina and do dmg. I'm basically using him more sub dps for AOE situation. Should be better than using Yelan in AOE especially with ER refund.
More accessible? I will get my chasca in 30’pulls or latest 110 and this is 100% But I could wish 10000 and 0 ororon :((( in the meantime I will get c4 chascha which I don’t need until I get 1 ororon Very bad he is 4star
@@omgbilliehiii no that’s not what he is. He doesn’t shred resistances. He synergizes with electrocharge and hydro/electro as an off-field sub dps haha.
Personally I'd take Beidou out and add Fischl, EC is AoE even without an AoE electro applicator+ Ororon has AoE covered anyways. Fischl would give you a lot more extra damage against single target enemies + she's not as energy hungry
I think you can use Yelan, Cyno, and Baizhu or Nahida with Ororon for a pretty good balance of hyperbloom, aggravate, and electro-charged. I don't think Furina would work here though since her hydro application isn't exactly the best. It's certainly a bit more comfortable than the regular quick bloom team because of easier energy funneling to Cyno but I don't think it'll technically be better. Also Beidou is probably the biggest benefiter of Ororon. She's an ult reliant aoe sub-dps and with electrocharged being very good in aoe scenarios, this is definitely going to help Beidou become more relevant again. Childe tazer might make a comeback too with Beidou, Ororon, and Xilonen/Kazuha
i feel like you overestimate his battery potential, because Fishl is a better battery with solid damage who generates a lot of particles. i love Ororon and his kit, however his utility and scaling's aren't amazing which makes him a worse Fishl. However, he still hasn't real released so i may be wrong.
@@TiredJake05 yeah I wasn’t trying to say his energy gen is better than Fischl but the big differences between the 2 is the AOE he provides and the buffing from scroll. I think those 2 factors are enough to consider him valuable as a fischl replacement in taser setups. We will have to see but this is all a good healthy discussion to have. Thanks for commenting 🙏
One thing that's important to note : Fischl is a good battery because she produces a lot of electro particules, which are 3 times more effective on electro characters compared to non-electro characters, and also scale with energy recharge. Meanwhile Ororon gives flat neutral energy, regardless of element, and independent of energy recharge. So it's impossible to compare their battery potential numerically, they both work best in different situations.
You could probably run Tartaglia, Ororon, Xiangling and Bennett to some solid success since Childe has a lot of hydro app that electrocharge and vape can interact with. Don’t quote me but I think it’s possible.
@@natalienatz1903 Yes you can i just wanted to provide other options as examples instead of saying Xilonen for every team since not everyone has her. Wasn’t trying to imply that the options I list are the only options possible haha
This could pretty well on Mualani, Tartaglia and Furina to get their bursts a lot faster unlike Neuvilette and Ayato who get their bursts a lot faster even if the the only hydro character in the team.
Mualani can't run electro on her team, electro is a hard barrier against vaping Furina could run him but there are better battery options (aka Raiden) That leaves Childe and Ayato and well. No one uses Ayato and Childe isn't really dependant on his burst unless it's a nuke team (fairly rare if you play him regularly)
@@aleksandarbubanja6422 1) whoever interests you the most out of two 2) It comes down to whether you want to buy a lot of crystals at once for a character or want passive primogem income. I personally stick to welkin and then top up if I want to prepare for some characters and was given some money or earned extra money recently Sorry I don’t have any black and white answers but there just isn’t a black and white answer for these questions. 😅
Gonna be hard to resist. Currrently sitting at 50 pity and planning to go big on mav banner. But he'll be a really great upgrade to my nuev team (replacing kachina)
Im not sure if im misunderstanding, but his kit doesnt INHERENTLY need electrocharged right? He can also benefit in Mono-electro and with other night soul units, right?
Ororon needs either electro charge or nightsoul aligned damage to consume his nightsoul points. Hydro and electro damage provide him nightsoul points (Not electro-charge, it consumes the points). The mono electro team would have the electro damage to make nightsoul points but you’d need a Natlan character to trigger nightsoul aligned damage to consume them since you don’t have a way to trigger electro-charge in the mono electro team. Hope it helps!
He is basically build for hydro and electro characters, but it you try a hyperbloom with Xingqiu and another electro then I think Tighnari can still remain in your team! In the end build the team you want for overworld, meta is basically only relevant for Abyss and junk. If they can kill monsters in domains that's what matters.
Can ororon with cinder city buff 40% to Anemo damage bonus ? When swirl occur, it mean anemo go on top to electro. I am not sure that ororon can buff anemo damage bonus in this case or not? Please help suggest me.
I’m most likely gonna get chaska and ororon so idk what my team should be, I have furina and I can’t use kuki or xingqui and im pretty sure that I can’t use beidou with chaska so idk my team.
@@thegamerslash204 He can be used fine in Raiden teams but raiden’s energy refund mechanic from her burst makes it pretty easy for characters in her team to gain energy back, so his impact from his A4 isn’t really felt as much. He’s still good cuz of cinder city of course but Raiden already has such a strong taser team with herself, Furina, Yelan and Xilonen that idk how much better adding him would be I focused mainly on characters that would benefit MOST from him compared to others 😊
does his A1 trigger if I'm atacking with sucrose and swirling Eletro and Hydro? Or with Xingquil burst? I'm thinking in using Sucrose, Ororon, Xinquil and Beidou
Yes as long as you’re triggering electro-charge damage in any way from your team, Ororon’s A1 will trigger 👍 That’s why I made sure to highlight sucrose taser in the vid as well
@@Array_EB Yes, i commented before finish the video haha... I just asked because my caracter is not eletro or hydro it is anemo, the reaction is causing the other elemens (swirl) So i will not be able to gain nightsoul points. If I understand correcly, Beidou burst and xinquil burst will be gaining nightsoul via A1, but swirl will not. The swirl can only activate the damage part of A1. Am I wrong?
@ Yes you are correct. Swirl would only be triggering electro and hydro damage in the first section, the electrocharge will come from Xingqiu and Beidou/Ororon since they’re the hydro and electro characters. Sucrose is just buffing the damage and helping apply the elements more through swirl
@@douggazoussama781 Not forgetting, just don’t know if he’s a buff for spread in all honesty. Ororon’s passives prefer to have electrocharge reactions occurring in his teams. Obviously you can stick him in as a buffer in any team cuz he holds cinder city but he won’t be dealing much personal damage. I don’t feel like he buffs spread, but rather that he’s just another fun option for it. I do think he can be a good character for it but I don’t see how he would totally eclipse fischl or even Yae in a spread team. I could end up being wrong but I couldn’t say anything definitively.
Uhh... 4*s aren't really accessible. A lot of them require cons (thankfully Ororon doesn't seem to be that type), and wishing for them is never guaranteed. I can throw 200 wishes on lyney's banner and not get a single copy of Ororon, just like I've never pulled a copy of Bennett _ever_ in any banner, even with a rate up.
I feel like using the worst possible scenario as a reason to say he isn’t accessible is unfair as the best case scenarios and common scenarios tend to support someone being likely to get him within less pulls than a 5 star. Obviously it’s not guaranteed and that sucks but the accessibility can’t be denied.
Clorinde is in the video haha Tartaglia is an option but I find Ayato performs better in Taser/over-vape compared to Tartaglia. Vape is just so good for Childe that it’s hard to really recommend other options, but I’m sure it’ll be a decent team for him.
Not putting beidou in the electro section is nasty work. After all this time yall still relegate her to a supportive role even though it's a waste of her entire kit.
She doesn’t do anything on field that’s notable when all of her damage is done from off-field. It’s better to use someone else on-field and I mentioned her multiple times. She’s good because of her off-field damage and interruption resistance 😊
Not forgotten just I don’t see Ororon being an upgrade for him in any way. I’m not choosing to forget him. It’s an option but not really anything notable. I can’t sit here listing every possible usable character or the vid would kind of lose purpose. The discussion regarding Sucrose essentially embodies the exact same thing he would be doing but Heizou would be doing it worse. I think even without me mentioning Heizou specifically you can draw a parallel between how it would impact him. Heizou just isn’t as good in that role compared to sucrose. It would be like saying to use Taser Wanderer which is not advisable
I had this in mind. Ororon will be a great way to maintain cinder city set buff on hydro. He will be a functional upgrade to kachina if you had her on neuv team before
Clarification Ororon (at least at c0) doesn't buff anything, he is a battery & an off field dps / electro applier, tho you can use the natlan scroll set to give elem dmg boost to the team EDIT : & from what his constellation says he is more of an off field dps than a support, only his c6 give a 30% atk boost to the active character every other con are for his personnal damage
I think you’re not really thinking outside the box on what a buff means. A buff means an improvement. I didn’t mean specifically stat buffs I meant team archetype buffs and improvements. I didn’t claim any stat buffs but Cinder City literally buffs characters anyways. Hope this helps 😅
@@Array_EB A buff is a buff, an upgrade is an upgrade, that's it, he doesn't buff anything he is an upgrade / side-grade for taser team, that's it. if you wanna turn every sub dps as a support / buffer go for it, give fischel millelith, give xiangling deepwood, do whatever you want
In that case wanderer will have a new team then 💀👍 wanderer , faruzan , Xing Qiu with ororon f2p team if not wanderer , faruzan/c2 jean , furina/yelan with ororon
@@imsomeone9144 I mean if you’re running EM VV wanderer it will work but otherwise it’ll be pretty bad 😭 I wouldn’t recommend him in that kind of team haha
Wanderer Faruzan Ororon Bennett. A bit less dmg than the Furina Bennett version but a lot more comfy and less likely to die in 1 hit, since Ororon burst has a taunt, he can somewhat replace a shielder in Wanderer's team (not work with bosses though)
@@ohmysmoliv4429 Probably good. Similar to clorinde in that sense but I’m not sure how his cooldowns and teammate cooldowns would lineup with Keqing and she appreciates quickswap teams so keep that in mind
NOTES: He is NOT an Electro-charge Chevreuse. He DOES NOT shred resistances. I never say this in the video so I’m not sure where people are getting this from haha. He is an off-field sub DPS that provides damage, energy refund and also buffs through cinder city artifacts.
I wanted to mention this, but forgot to mention Over-Vape (overload/vape) which Ayato is quite proficient in. A composition with Ayato, Ororon, Xiangling and Bennett should be quite strong. Chasca over-vape would also be recommended with Furina, Ororon and Bennett.
I tried to highlight more slept on characters in this video. If I don’t list a character, it means I don’t see how they gain much of a significant IMPROVEMENT from Ororon compared to what existed before. Obviously Neuvillette can use him but it doesn’t mean that Neuvillette has a new notable team archetype or is better because of Ororon existing.
Appreciate the support on this one! Remember this is just a healthy discussion and a fun way to look into Ororon before he comes out. Thanks for watching and best of luck on any wishes you make! 🙌
Hello I subscribed after watching this video. I love the way you go about each possible ways a unit can be played. just an idea, can you make content on non-meta teams or builds (artifacts and weapons)? like Chasca non-meta yet fun teams (this would mean no furina and benney) I could think of C6 Kujo Sara buffing Chasca's electro bullets a lot! thank you for noticing!
@ For sure! I think it would be fun to explore what Chasca could do. I can’t guarantee when that will be out but I’d be interested in looking in other options she has available to her
@@Array_EB i think the confusion is people thinking dmg% is equally valuable as res shred the big difference is res shred is less common and ororon can actually run kazuha who can offer both or xilonen who can shred res
@@tagg3dsensei268 yes, please! Thanks for this idea :) I am a bit tired of everyone just putting Furina in every new team that comes up and not offering other options for people who do not have her or are not interested in her... (no offense intended, I don't mean this creator/video in particular, just speaking in general terms). I get that she is a good character and all, but it makes it seem like people who don't have her cannot have good teams anymore lol
I don’t even own Furina so I might be one of the best people to help you out here haha. I can look into stuff and see what I can find as time goes on
I feel like someone that you overlooked who'd actually benefit a good amount from Ororon is our forgotten boy Freminet - at least with his intended use kit, Freminet wants both hydro and electro characters to trigger Frozen for his Shatter attacks and Superconduct for physical res shred, and is an on fielder who'd love more energy to trigger his burst more reliably!
@@pandorapanini6036 I actually originally included Eula / Freminet and had it recorded but I decided to remove it while editing because I wasn’t too sold on Ororon being any different than having Raiden or fischl in that spot. I think the buffs to superconduct and shatter alone will be the benefit to Freminet vs Ororon existing. It’s definitely an option but he himself is not the buff for those 2
I AM excited to see how they perform with these buffs though 👀
Also Raiden would benefit
Freminet has no burst issues at all though, even in his usual Physical teams
@@RazorNivekUltimate9000 I could see Ororon with Raiden, Furina, and Jean.
@@RazorNivekUltimate9000 Someone else already asked about her in the comments, so I didn't mention her. Array already responded to that person with his thoughts about Ororon w/Raiden but the summarized answer is that Raiden teams don't really care about Ororon.
its actually impressive that sigewinne is getting some buff with ororon,, shes my fav char and i didnt even thought it
As a newer player my first character was Sigewinne and till mualani came out I struggled non stop with a Gaming and Sigewinne Team. Ororon is a must have for me now.
You can try using her with Kinich
I mean she's kinda terrible, so I guess.
Electro-Hydro teams kinda seems like Chevreuse with her being Electro-Pyro. But seems like Ororon isn't strictly ONLY electro/hydro which is pretty nice.
Isn't he? He needs electrocharge to trigger his Nightsoul
@@ucbrowser2447 Ororon only requires a single hydro character on the team. Chev on the other hand requires a full team of only Pyro/Electro.
@@ucbrowser2447 he only need to have electrocharged reaction, doesnt matter how..
Even teams like overcharged, or hypercharged (hyperbloom electrocharged) still benefit from him
@@ucbrowser2447not only electrocharged, but also nightsoul aligned dmg. A pyro character that does nightsoul aligned damage, Mavuika wink wink, would let him play in other teams, such as overload, and as he gains nightsoul points when either electro or hydro characters hit opponents, that also includes overload teams with electro characters hitting opponents from on or off field, and also overvape since electro charged is a function in overvape. It can also work in a quicken or hyperbloom team, so I suppose that if Iansan is quicken/bloom based dps or even overloaded, Ororon would still be active in the team.
I havent even thought of Cyno. Since he is glued to dendro teams. You didnt mention Heizou. Other than that very comprehensive video!
cyno overload:
A notable Chasca team right now is Chasca-Bennett-Furina-Ororon, which is shaping up to be one of her strongest F2P investment teams.
@@alexabaxter3355 I ended up finding out about that after the recording. Definitely a great team to look into 🙌
C0 furina is terrible with Bennet idk about f2p furina needs to be c2
@ that’s not true. He’s still good with Furina especially if his artifact stats are focused on healing. Furina + Bennett is a very universal core these days for attack scalers
@ I played Bennet with furina at c0 with a healing bonus headpiece it’s shit because of bennet’s limitation of rarely overhealing the character because of his 70% hp limit so he can’t even trigger furina’s healing passive.
Switching between characters to heal them for a c0 furina sounds terrible because your damage rotation windows are much shorter because you’re wasting Bennet buff and furina buff healing your supports to the point it’s better to just use yelan . Also a c0 furina will not have more than a 50% damage bonus in the first rotation because Bennet cannot heal them till they drop below 70%. And that will also be terrible for a lot of frontloaded characters
@@Chocolatemilk131 if you build him right he should be able to full heal himself, ororon, and then chasca in one tick each which is good enough for furina. besides, chasca doesnt do normal attacks, so she cant utilise yelan
I'm like: "Just let citlali be the ultimate physical buffer pleaaaaaase"
I'd love to use her with ororon in eula teams
Good thing he can work so long as their is hydro or electro.
@silverhawkscape2677 if the character is from Natlan he can work anyways
@@lucasfreitas2245 but Citlali is a shaman (like tribal priestess mage) so her style do magic.
@@diaochan7506do magic to enhance physical attacks could be an option 😅
Isn't she a shielder according to leakers?
Tartaglia is gonna be great with him, because of his passive. He has the best and fastest hydro application in the game, together they will do so much damage and I'm pretty sure, with help of Ororon and Fischl, Tartaglia will be able to do 2 bursts in one rotation, which deals great damage as well. Can't wait to get him
I’m so hyped if this pans out
Why does Tartaglia have more application than Nuev? Doesn't Nuev apply more hydro cause his is CA? I don't know.
@muhammedbinnizar7197 let them hope, my man
He obviously isn't the best hydro applier, but he is decent
And it is a working comp, even if neuv is better
@@arehtman3329 I believe the original commenter is referring to how Tart’s riptide mechanic works. It’s the fastest, it’s great for AOE and it’s ~wet~ He’s a great enabler. Now imagine having Riptide and Ororon’s electro bouncing around a bunch of enemies, gonna be so satisfying…
@@cupofstew nah, I understand why that's strong and satisfying, I ain't got nothing against that
Just addressed the dude who said neuv is gonna utilize that better, which is true, but he still has one of the most boring playstyles imo (I have him at c2r1)
I’m doing maybe 30 or so pulls on Chasca banner in hope I get an Ororon copy….
@@TheGwilwileth I’m doing the same thing … gotta maintain the Pyro Archon fund
This is my plan too, but im saving for Citlali
Same. Good luck to us!
New subscriber here! I’m so excited for Ororon, I already have my team prepared for him. It’ll be C6 Venti (res shred, reaction machine, massive battery, hypercarry), Ayato, Ororon, and Yelan/C6 Fischl depending on which element needs more application to keep the Electro-Charged reaction alive!
I really like how positive your videos feel. It’s pretty exhausting to watch other creators who have to say something negative as a “joke” every 4 seconds when I’m just trying to understand character kits more. Thanks!!
Really glad you enjoyed the content and thanks for your support. Hope to see you around! 😊
Childe with his passive constantly apply hydro could work well with him in both multiple and single enemy scenario
Make my homie great again❤
Exactly!
Husbando only Alhaitham team is finally complete ❤
Who’s on your team? ( I can think of alhaitham, ororon and maybe kauve )
Please share the team comp, I also feel bored with Alhaitham’s default team
@@MVP-Lol Alhaitham Ororon Ayato (burst dps) and Baizhu. Previous team was a cope burgeon team with the same characters but with Thoma instead of Ororon
Spread me Team: Alhaitham, Ororon, Zhongli and Baizhu
I hope Ifa is a tall off field male
@@DefinitelyNotAFerret Did you give your team a name like the guy above my comment? xd
I wanna use him with Neuvi personally. The artefact bonus looks pretty nice, plus with the fact he buffs charged attacks and groups enemies, so all in all it seems like he'd be a pretty good support for the water dragon.
Yeah he seems like a better alternative to kachina in my neuvi team
I can't wait for Ororon! My favourite team is Electro-Charge with Furina, Yae Miko, Sigewinne and Xilonen. Ororon being able to use cinder city can make me be able to use Xilonen with my Arlecchino
Ever since 4.2 dropped I've been playing Cyno with Fischl/Beidou, Furina and Baizhu, I can't WAIT to replace the electro girls with Ororon.
Cyno had several issues when he released but every few patches he gets even better/comfortable to play.
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@@CryomancerMK1 He’s my number 1 favourite character so I can share your sentiment here 🙌
@@Array_EB same i maine him he will prevail
I'm pulling for Chasca C2 minium and hope to get Ororon and his constellations in the process.
What about pyro archon and neuvellette
Whale can do anything lol
@@AliceMill69 damn let them wish for who they want not everything has to be neuvilette and mavuika ☹️
@AliceMill69 stupid question. The most likely already have neuvi. And once they get c2 chasca there's plenty of time to save for her lol. Plus can just spend money.
I plan to use Ayato, Fischl, Xilonen, and Ororon.
Loved the video! Very informative and to the point! New sub! 👍 😊
@@ThexAcex21 thanks for the support! Hope to see you around 😊
From what i remember, his A4 passive didn't work if the active character wasn't hydro or electro (in the beta). But now, just with a normal attack you can use his A4 passive, making he much more flexible.
A team i was thinking, was him with kinich and other 2 pyro characters, ororon can provide the new set bonus for kinich, 9 energy, if he is c6 a plus 30% atk and his ult taunts, taking focus from kinich and maybe grouping enemies. The other two characters probably would be, bennett for the atk buff and heal, and a good pyro aplicator. If mavuika can be that pyro aplicator, kinich and ororon will benefit a lot.
When i get ororon i have to test his aplication, because if it is too much electro, kinich probably is not going to land 5 shots, and in the worst cenario, not even 4.
But i have hope, because kinich and ororon are my favorites from natlan, and i want to play them in the same team🙏
I feel like as someone who doesn't have c6 fischl yet, ororon is a good buffer instead of damage dealer for Clorinde aggrevate team. Clorinde, Ororon, Nahida and Kazuha/Xilonen( I use Xilonen as my kazuna is used on old Otter premium team)
Xilonen is better with Nuevellete bc she provides heals and shields
considering he's able to use cinder city and procs quicken, he should be perfect for alhaitham team
I remember in the stream it was mentioned he can kinda do some grouping not Kazuha level but still some, I was thinking maybe I could replace fischl in my raiden, Benny, fischl and cheveruse overload team with ororon to keep that electro application but to also get the grouping that allows me to make full use of raiden’s nuke damage to all enemies
My c2 Kazuha would like this since he buffs both DMG bonus and EM. And he can even trigger Electrocharge himself
I was thinking a pretty good team could be made from the upcoming banners... Lyney to make his hats that lure in opponents, then Ororon to put up an AoE electro applicator that can stay up for a little bit and repeatedly apply elctro, then swap to Neuvilette and go kamehameha on the group of unfortunate enemies... this triggers a bunch of electro-charged reactions with the water, and when the hat from Lyney pops, you get a quick AoE Vaporize (or overload, depending on which the game prioritizes) on those foes as well. this might not be a perfect team, but I IS a viable one and has the benefit of all these characters being on the next 2 banners, so newer players can actually use this team
Nah you definitely cooked with this 🔥
Should have run with Neuvillette
Well he's kinda one of Chasca's best teammates so made sense
2:24 NOT THE ASS SHOT LMAO
I REALLY want him; I think he'd be a lot of fun in a Neuvillette taser team. Is it gonna be better than the stock-standard Furina-Kazuha-Xilonen? No of course not; but it's fucking Neuvillette. He's more than strong enough to let you dick around with a more goofy build and still be an Extinction Level Event.
Gimme Ororon, Neuvillette, and Zhongli! I really want to make a team with those 3 and my Kazuha! Just gotta hope I can bring Ororon home without wasting too many wishes...
Definitly going to try and pull one copy of him on Chasca's banner, if I get Chasca in the process then hooray. Once I get him I'm going to save the rest for 5.3
“So Ororon is finally here” in 6 days 9 hours and 20 minutes
Lmao I’m so saaaaad
With the Cinder City set, he's actually more versatile than you think, since he's the only Natlan character that can buff Dendro/Anemo team. So hypercarries like Xiao/Wanderer/Kinich/Alhaitham will appreciate having him in the team solely because of Cinder City buff, and his burst has a taunt which is even more support for these teams. I'm thinking Wanderer Faruzan Ororon Bennett, or Alhaitham Xingqiu Ororon Kuki/Baizhu
I can see potential for Dendro but not Anemo. Anemo would imply that there is an Anemo aura on the character and Ororon is triggering the swirl by reacting with Anemo (which doesn’t happen). Scroll’s description says the holder of the set needs to be the one who triggers the reaction for the two elements to have their damage buffed, and swirl is always triggered by the anemo character. This means Ororon himself cannot buff anemo with cinder city. Only a cinder city anemo support can buff anemo through swirl.
I could be wrong but I’m pretty sure this is the case.
@Array_EB yeah my bad. Forgot about the Anemo aura can't stick on enemies. Too bad for Wanderer and Xiao then
@@naotonhan5253 Hey I mean it’s still fun to think about. Maybe an anemo Natlan support will show up eventually 🤷🏻♂️
I wish Sigewinne provided her off field elemental damage buff to all party members. I dont know what Hoyo was thinking to have everyone share stacks.
I'll probably run Ayato, Ororon, Yelan, Kazuha. Best grandson!
Basically a side grade to fichle with less damage but more aoe he's neat and a nice catch but as someone with c6 fichle i don't see myself using him unless I get him to c2 or c6 in the distant future. I find it harder and harder to get 4 stars up to c6 as there just so many of them now like fichles hasn't gotten a banner since 4.1
I think Chevreuse and Ororon would synergize perfectly in electro dps teams. Both of them shredding electro resistance further with an additional hydro sub-dps for extra damage and a nice increase of output you would get from both the dps and Chevreuse vapes would be goated.
Ororon does NOT shred electro resistance though 😅
@@Array_EB I forgot to mention the Hero's set on him, my bad
Not running a dendro with sethos feels like a crime
I cant wait for him. I saved 200 pulls for him and prefarmed for him too 😅
He is also gonna be the only way for Mauvika to play overload with Cinder City buff
I was planning to use him with kinich for his cinder city buff, but i wonder if he will apply too much electro? I can easily slot in yae with thoma and emilie when im bored of bennett, but fischl messes up the burning reaction quite a lot. Is ororons application as fast as fischl’s?
I can build a team including Raiden Yelan Furina and Ororon cause Raiden will recharge energy Yelan and Furina can apply hydro off field so we can make either Raiden or Ororon as the main dps
Very curious what a Taser Childe team would look like with Ororon
@@Raykushi I feel like it’s hard to tell since Childe teams really value the vapes from Xiangling and his own burst but I can see it being decent. I think something like over-vape with Childe, Ororon, Xiangling, Bennett being good
That’s why im getting him ❤❤❤
I wonder if soup teams would benefit from him as well. You don't trigger as much electro-charged, but you still usually have it so your pyro characters can trigger vape and overload at the same time, and with Mavuika coming out soup teams might come back as well.
Yes in my notes that I pinned I mention that I forgot to highlight “soup” (over-vape) which is notably really good with Ayato. Chasca also will have a good soup team with Furina, Ororon and Bennett
Ororon, your coming home with my Tighnari\^o^/
My plans with Ororon are to put him in the Noelle team, he'll battery Noelle, proc EC from furina and do dmg. I'm basically using him more sub dps for AOE situation. Should be better than using Yelan in AOE especially with ER refund.
I think for Sethos team you’d better use a Dendro character at least. His damage scales entirely on EM s
AHHHHH MAH BOI SETHOS WAS MENTION!!
MY BABYYYYY
More accessible?
I will get my chasca in 30’pulls or latest 110 and this is 100%
But I could wish 10000 and 0 ororon :((( in the meantime I will get c4 chascha which I don’t need until I get 1 ororon
Very bad he is 4star
At last, something I can use with Beidou!
So I play Sucrose taser with Kokofish rather than Xinqiu, guess it still works with Ororon. Look forward to testing 😊
Hydro-Electro Chevreuse is crazy, Clorinde and Furina will have fun with this one
@@omgbilliehiii no that’s not what he is. He doesn’t shred resistances. He synergizes with electrocharge and hydro/electro as an off-field sub dps haha.
he is more like electro charged emilie
@@Array_EB haha yeah, i'm just saying that thanks to another comment doing the same joke lol, sorry for the misunderstanding
@@leovu8500 my brain hurts but you're right
Outside Hydro, Electro, and Anemo, I think Dendro may also benefit from Ororon via Quickbloom comps
I’m not sure how much better he would be than Raiden or Kuki considering he has less uptime than both, so less hyperblooms would be triggered.
Ororon will help me to reach Hydro archon seat on the Opera Epiclepse..
Would Kokomi+Furina+Ororon+Beidou have the potential to be the best team for taser then ?
Personally I'd take Beidou out and add Fischl, EC is AoE even without an AoE electro applicator+ Ororon has AoE covered anyways.
Fischl would give you a lot more extra damage against single target enemies + she's not as energy hungry
You need to take an anemo character instead of beidou. Kazuha or heizou or sucrose
I think you can use Yelan, Cyno, and Baizhu or Nahida with Ororon for a pretty good balance of hyperbloom, aggravate, and electro-charged. I don't think Furina would work here though since her hydro application isn't exactly the best. It's certainly a bit more comfortable than the regular quick bloom team because of easier energy funneling to Cyno but I don't think it'll technically be better. Also Beidou is probably the biggest benefiter of Ororon. She's an ult reliant aoe sub-dps and with electrocharged being very good in aoe scenarios, this is definitely going to help Beidou become more relevant again. Childe tazer might make a comeback too with Beidou, Ororon, and Xilonen/Kazuha
Nahida's high dendro apps will deplete hydro aura so electro charged will not happen. But Baizhu would be okay since he has low dendro apps.
i feel like you overestimate his battery potential, because Fishl is a better battery with solid damage who generates a lot of particles. i love Ororon and his kit, however his utility and scaling's aren't amazing which makes him a worse Fishl. However, he still hasn't real released so i may be wrong.
@@TiredJake05 yeah I wasn’t trying to say his energy gen is better than Fischl but the big differences between the 2 is the AOE he provides and the buffing from scroll. I think those 2 factors are enough to consider him valuable as a fischl replacement in taser setups. We will have to see but this is all a good healthy discussion to have. Thanks for commenting 🙏
One thing that's important to note : Fischl is a good battery because she produces a lot of electro particules, which are 3 times more effective on electro characters compared to non-electro characters, and also scale with energy recharge. Meanwhile Ororon gives flat neutral energy, regardless of element, and independent of energy recharge. So it's impossible to compare their battery potential numerically, they both work best in different situations.
@@zr1L Yeah this is an extremely fundamental difference that I should’ve highlighted a bit more. Thanks for adding to that
6:53 where did you get this fischl art i haven't seen it before
Google 🤷🏻♂️ I had it in my folder for a long time so I’m not exactly sure where specifically.
Do you think he'd slot in well with Quickbloom teams?
Kokomi is really fun in Electro-Charged with Beidou bc *_Emperor Palpatine_*
How good do you think Ororon would be with C6 Tartaglia?
You could probably run Tartaglia, Ororon, Xiangling and Bennett to some solid success since Childe has a lot of hydro app that electrocharge and vape can interact with. Don’t quote me but I think it’s possible.
I feel like he would help chasca or Nahida+ Neuvilette teams or xilonen
What about heizou? I think he will be good with ororon
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Waiting for the low IQ Neuvil glazers. God I can’t fucking stand them.
I'm at 75 pity and saving for Mauvika ( I guess I won't be able to pull for him...)
Save for our Archon!
@@Valleriano hell yea!
basically the xingqiu of natlan?
Thank you
On the Cyno team you could potentially use Xilonen instead since she's a healer too & her resistance shred lasts longer
@@natalienatz1903 Yes you can i just wanted to provide other options as examples instead of saying Xilonen for every team since not everyone has her. Wasn’t trying to imply that the options I list are the only options possible haha
and then you can put petra on xilonen too
This could pretty well on Mualani, Tartaglia and Furina to get their bursts a lot faster unlike Neuvilette and Ayato who get their bursts a lot faster even if the the only hydro character in the team.
Mualani can't run electro on her team, electro is a hard barrier against vaping
Furina could run him but there are better battery options (aka Raiden)
That leaves Childe and Ayato and well. No one uses Ayato and Childe isn't really dependant on his burst unless it's a nuke team (fairly rare if you play him regularly)
@ fair enough completely forgot that Mualani is usually run in Vap comps since I was actually using her in Mono Hydro.
I'll use him with Ayato if I get him
I'll be eating out of the characters he saif Lisa's the only one I haven't build lmao
Does the taunt work in the abyss?
Yes all taunts work in abyss
5:18 or Baizhu for Hylerbloom
A lot of characters aren’t really buffed. They just get alternative teams that aren’t really better than what they already have
Who do you recomend pulling chasca or lyney and which is better to buy welkin or crystals
@@aleksandarbubanja6422 1) whoever interests you the most out of two
2) It comes down to whether you want to buy a lot of crystals at once for a character or want passive primogem income. I personally stick to welkin and then top up if I want to prepare for some characters and was given some money or earned extra money recently
Sorry I don’t have any black and white answers but there just isn’t a black and white answer for these questions. 😅
@Array_EB I wanted lyney for the longest time but chasca looks so interesting and still not have any Nathan characters though i hope to get ororon
@@aleksandarbubanja6422 aww than get Lyney!! Don't worry Abt not having natlan characters,Mavuika will soon be here and Capitano!!
Ororon does seem inteeresting, but I don't know if he's worth enough to spend my Mavuika savings. :/
Well he's not a five star so your wishes won't be wasted. Unless you get early Lyney or Chasca😭
Gonna be hard to resist. Currrently sitting at 50 pity and planning to go big on mav banner. But he'll be a really great upgrade to my nuev team (replacing kachina)
Im not sure if im misunderstanding, but his kit doesnt INHERENTLY need electrocharged right? He can also benefit in Mono-electro and with other night soul units, right?
Ororon needs either electro charge or nightsoul aligned damage to consume his nightsoul points. Hydro and electro damage provide him nightsoul points (Not electro-charge, it consumes the points). The mono electro team would have the electro damage to make nightsoul points but you’d need a Natlan character to trigger nightsoul aligned damage to consume them since you don’t have a way to trigger electro-charge in the mono electro team.
Hope it helps!
@Array_EB ohhhh i see i see, yes thats super helpful thank you!
@ my pleasure! 😊
He's good esp he can use Cinder City set.
could ororon perhaps work in a aggravte team? i wanna use him for tighnari
He is basically build for hydro and electro characters, but it you try a hyperbloom with Xingqiu and another electro then I think Tighnari can still remain in your team! In the end build the team you want for overworld, meta is basically only relevant for Abyss and junk. If they can kill monsters in domains that's what matters.
Can ororon with cinder city buff 40% to Anemo damage bonus ?
When swirl occur, it mean anemo go on top to electro. I am not sure that ororon can buff anemo damage bonus in this case or not?
Please help suggest me.
Nope. Just Anemo characters with Cinder City can buff Anemo dmg
so, it also mean that just geo characters with cinder city can buff geo dmg ??
Coz we cannot apply geo before PHEC elemental.
Am I correct?
@@NichanunArm yes
Night fling with Ifa 😂
I’m most likely gonna get chaska and ororon so idk what my team should be, I have furina and I can’t use kuki or xingqui and im pretty sure that I can’t use beidou with chaska so idk my team.
So he will not buff raiden teams?
@@thegamerslash204 He can be used fine in Raiden teams but raiden’s energy refund mechanic from her burst makes it pretty easy for characters in her team to gain energy back, so his impact from his A4 isn’t really felt as much. He’s still good cuz of cinder city of course but Raiden already has such a strong taser team with herself, Furina, Yelan and Xilonen that idk how much better adding him would be
I focused mainly on characters that would benefit MOST from him compared to others 😊
does his A1 trigger if I'm atacking with sucrose and swirling Eletro and Hydro? Or with Xingquil burst?
I'm thinking in using Sucrose, Ororon, Xinquil and Beidou
Yes as long as you’re triggering electro-charge damage in any way from your team, Ororon’s A1 will trigger 👍 That’s why I made sure to highlight sucrose taser in the vid as well
@@Array_EB Yes, i commented before finish the video haha... I just asked because my caracter is not eletro or hydro it is anemo, the reaction is causing the other elemens (swirl) So i will not be able to gain nightsoul points. If I understand correcly, Beidou burst and xinquil burst will be gaining nightsoul via A1, but swirl will not. The swirl can only activate the damage part of A1. Am I wrong?
@ Yes you are correct. Swirl would only be triggering electro and hydro damage in the first section, the electrocharge will come from Xingqiu and Beidou/Ororon since they’re the hydro and electro characters. Sucrose is just buffing the damage and helping apply the elements more through swirl
so we forgetting about him buffing spread with cinder city ?
@@douggazoussama781 Not forgetting, just don’t know if he’s a buff for spread in all honesty. Ororon’s passives prefer to have electrocharge reactions occurring in his teams. Obviously you can stick him in as a buffer in any team cuz he holds cinder city but he won’t be dealing much personal damage. I don’t feel like he buffs spread, but rather that he’s just another fun option for it.
I do think he can be a good character for it but I don’t see how he would totally eclipse fischl or even Yae in a spread team. I could end up being wrong but I couldn’t say anything definitively.
chasca bullets dont stack like if you had chasca, ororon, and 2 hydros her bullets would be 1 electro and 1 hydro and 4 anemo
Uhh... 4*s aren't really accessible. A lot of them require cons (thankfully Ororon doesn't seem to be that type), and wishing for them is never guaranteed.
I can throw 200 wishes on lyney's banner and not get a single copy of Ororon, just like I've never pulled a copy of Bennett _ever_ in any banner, even with a rate up.
I feel like using the worst possible scenario as a reason to say he isn’t accessible is unfair as the best case scenarios and common scenarios tend to support someone being likely to get him within less pulls than a 5 star. Obviously it’s not guaranteed and that sucks but the accessibility can’t be denied.
You forgot Clorinde and Tartaglia
Clorinde is in the video haha
Tartaglia is an option but I find Ayato performs better in Taser/over-vape compared to Tartaglia. Vape is just so good for Childe that it’s hard to really recommend other options, but I’m sure it’ll be a decent team for him.
is ororon better than fischl in clorinde team?
He's a Fischl replacement?
Finally a natlan character with homophobia
You mean heterochromia? 😂😂
Not putting beidou in the electro section is nasty work. After all this time yall still relegate her to a supportive role even though it's a waste of her entire kit.
She doesn’t do anything on field that’s notable when all of her damage is done from off-field. It’s better to use someone else on-field and I mentioned her multiple times. She’s good because of her off-field damage and interruption resistance 😊
And of course heizou is forgotten, well he has not been seen for a while so don’t really blame anyone
Not forgotten just I don’t see Ororon being an upgrade for him in any way. I’m not choosing to forget him. It’s an option but not really anything notable. I can’t sit here listing every possible usable character or the vid would kind of lose purpose.
The discussion regarding Sucrose essentially embodies the exact same thing he would be doing but Heizou would be doing it worse. I think even without me mentioning Heizou specifically you can draw a parallel between how it would impact him. Heizou just isn’t as good in that role compared to sucrose. It would be like saying to use Taser Wanderer which is not advisable
Is Ororon not good with Neuvi? I haven't seen anyone pair them up together...
He is but it doesnt "buff" neuvillette really so I didnt put him in there. He's just another option.
I had this in mind. Ororon will be a great way to maintain cinder city set buff on hydro. He will be a functional upgrade to kachina if you had her on neuv team before
Thanks! good to know that they'll still work together
Clarification Ororon (at least at c0) doesn't buff anything, he is a battery & an off field dps / electro applier, tho you can use the natlan scroll set to give elem dmg boost to the team
EDIT : & from what his constellation says he is more of an off field dps than a support, only his c6 give a 30% atk boost to the active character every other con are for his personnal damage
He will probably use cinder city set, which actually buffs character of that element, so it will buff him and the main dps
I think you’re not really thinking outside the box on what a buff means. A buff means an improvement. I didn’t mean specifically stat buffs I meant team archetype buffs and improvements. I didn’t claim any stat buffs but Cinder City literally buffs characters anyways. Hope this helps 😅
@@Array_EB that's called an upgrade not a buff
I’m sorry but most people seem to understand that Ororon holding cinder city does buff characters and team improvements can count as indirect buffs.
@@Array_EB A buff is a buff, an upgrade is an upgrade, that's it, he doesn't buff anything he is an upgrade / side-grade for taser team, that's it. if you wanna turn every sub dps as a support / buffer go for it, give fischel millelith, give xiangling deepwood, do whatever you want
Who got buffed the most ? Its kazuha
In that case wanderer will have a new team then 💀👍 wanderer , faruzan , Xing Qiu with ororon f2p team if not wanderer , faruzan/c2 jean , furina/yelan with ororon
@@imsomeone9144 I mean if you’re running EM VV wanderer it will work but otherwise it’ll be pretty bad 😭 I wouldn’t recommend him in that kind of team haha
@Array_EB xDDD extreme wanderer playerrrrrr hahahahaha
Wanderer Faruzan Ororon Bennett. A bit less dmg than the Furina Bennett version but a lot more comfy and less likely to die in 1 hit, since Ororon burst has a taunt, he can somewhat replace a shielder in Wanderer's team (not work with bosses though)
How about Keqing
@@ohmysmoliv4429 Probably good. Similar to clorinde in that sense but I’m not sure how his cooldowns and teammate cooldowns would lineup with Keqing and she appreciates quickswap teams so keep that in mind
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