Beethoven's Farewell To The Piano

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  • Опубліковано 6 лип 2023
  • In 1824, Beethoven, having completed his ninth symphony, returned to his own instrument, the piano, for the final time. He had signed off on his final piano sonatas the previous year, declaring the piano to be “after all an unsatisfactory instrument”. However, he seems to have been in a happier mood with the Op 126 bagatelles. They were conceived as ‘a Cycle’ of pieces, arranged in a specific order and it seems likely that he intended them to be played together as a complete set. When Beethoven sent them to his publisher, he wrote. “They are probably the best I’ve written.”
    This G major bagatelle follows the extraordinary, stormy B minor bagatelle (which we will look at soon in another film). The G major, like its predecessor, makes use of syncopation, but in a wonderfully innocent way, like a lullaby with a slightly surprising sense of swing. The whole piece is written in a 3-part texture, with two low voices (starting in parallel thirds) accompanying the melody in the outer sections, and, in the exquisite central episode, two upper voices (also starting in parallel thirds), with a distinctly Italian character, singing a duet over a rocking barcarolle accompaniment. This passage would appear to have had a marked influence on later Romantic composers, especially Felix Mendelssohn’s ‘Gondellied’ pieces of the 1830s.
    Beethoven’s handling of form is, as always, ingenious and unexpected. The opening section shifts unexpectedly to E minor with a half-close on a unison B, which then pivots surprisingly into the C major of the barcarolle middle section. This Venetian episode is also surprising in the way it progresses, from artless simplicity and stillness, into a climactic passage with an increase of harmonic turbulence (as if the gondola is encountering more difficult waters) and then dissolving quite unexpectedly into a tiny refrain of the opening, like a memory.
    The score in this video comes from the 1825 first edition. There is a missing tie in the upper staff from bar 12 - 13, and another in bar 19.
    Beethoven: Bagatelle in G major Op 126, no. 5.
    Pianist: Matthew King.
    Another film about the B minor Bagatelle Op 126 can be seen here: • Beethoven’s B Minor Ba...
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    Edited by Ian Coulter ( www.iancoultermusic.com )
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КОМЕНТАРІ • 256

  • @OctopusContrapunctus
    @OctopusContrapunctus 11 місяців тому +546

    As a composer myself, I am even more amazed by the genius of beethoven in composing universally beloved and sentimental music even during of his tinnitus, even during his deafness. He was truly "A man battling against his fate".

    • @themusicprofessor
      @themusicprofessor  11 місяців тому +42

      Yes, he wasn't going to let the very great difficulties of life get in the way! In all the portraits of Beethoven, you can see the determination in his face. The famous striving quality in his music is therefore understandable, but the intimate, vulnerable element that's also there is really wonderful, and moving.

    • @pjflynn5978
      @pjflynn5978 11 місяців тому +29

      @@mtv565ranked by who? I love dearly all three of these composers, but to a degree it is subjective as to who is “best” among the three. They all composed during completely different eras and revolutionized music in their own unique ways!

    • @downfromkentuckeh
      @downfromkentuckeh 11 місяців тому +2

      How does one get into composing music

    • @Yama98989
      @Yama98989 11 місяців тому +3

      ​@@downfromkentuckeh
      Studying music theory.
      Downloading music composition software (DAW).
      Creating the first projects within the software.

    • @OctopusContrapunctus
      @OctopusContrapunctus 11 місяців тому +9

      @@mtv565i truly don't understand why people continue to compare composers. If you mean in contrapuntal way, for sure. Because countrapuntal was the main concern in bach.
      My suggestions is that you listen something other then baroque and classical my friend

  • @BrandonCuringtonOfficial
    @BrandonCuringtonOfficial 11 місяців тому +262

    Beethoven's such a genius he composed an end credits piece for his life.

    • @Sora-o
      @Sora-o 11 місяців тому +1

      Lmao

    • @jrgptr935
      @jrgptr935 11 місяців тому +6

      Das ist aber mal schön gesagt!

    • @elemusic19
      @elemusic19 4 місяці тому

      I feel like the "replacement finale" for opus 130 perfecrly fits that description considering that is was his last full composition.

    • @marcraider
      @marcraider 4 місяці тому

      but this was his credits and farewell for piano solo@@elemusic19

  • @altekamerad
    @altekamerad 11 місяців тому +249

    Beethoven is a literal music mastermind...
    It's sad that he couldn't have led a happier life.

    • @freedustin
      @freedustin 11 місяців тому +21

      Happy people make nonsense music tho. Usually just a bunch of chants over the most basic stuff ever.

    • @franz9002
      @franz9002 11 місяців тому +27

      ​@@freedustinMozart: 🗿

    • @altekamerad
      @altekamerad 11 місяців тому +7

      @@freedustin that is true, but Beethoven didn't deserve what he got.

    • @Warstub
      @Warstub 11 місяців тому +10

      @@freedustin Even when the often happy Mozart wrote nonsense music it achieved more complexity than the best works of his peers.

    • @freedustin
      @freedustin 11 місяців тому +2

      @@franz9002 difference was he wasn't just copy pasting something from 200 years ago...and chanting "I'm the best! Sex me up!" for 5 minutes over it!

  • @TimothyAsbridge_TENOR
    @TimothyAsbridge_TENOR 11 місяців тому +9

    This is how music analysis should be taught in the institutions.

  • @tarikeld11
    @tarikeld11 11 місяців тому +137

    I like his farewell to Sonatas even more. The second movement of Sonata No. 32 is like an ascention to heaven

    • @themusicprofessor
      @themusicprofessor  11 місяців тому +38

      No one is going to debate that point! Beethoven's final sonatas contain some of the greatest music ever written by anybody ever.

    • @fatitankeris6327
      @fatitankeris6327 11 місяців тому +7

      Great stylistic variety as well, things never heard before given to listeners to look forward to in the future.

    • @ericb7937
      @ericb7937 11 місяців тому +2

      I have loved 32 no 2 for over 10 years and then today I discovered this one. What a gift

    • @mystogan6556
      @mystogan6556 11 місяців тому +3

      Yes, very true! It sounds like a happy ending at the end.

    • @tarikeld11
      @tarikeld11 11 місяців тому +1

      @@ericb7937 Yes, his bagatelles are simple but sublime!

  • @VallaMusic
    @VallaMusic 11 місяців тому +208

    can not resist putting in my 2 cents as a composer myself - I love, love, love this kind of writing - it's the kind of music I often like to write - one grows as a composer - one cares less about impressing others - cares less about making grand, dramatic statements - one craves simplicity & intimacy - one knows the music will attract little attention or praise - only listeners in the same state will resonate

    • @themusicprofessor
      @themusicprofessor  11 місяців тому +26

      Yes. Thank you for your wise comment. Simplicity and intimacy are enormously important and so hard to bring off!

    • @emanuel_soundtrack
      @emanuel_soundtrack 11 місяців тому +8

      when it is the only thing the composer can do it is not intimacy, it is limitation. So the great things he did is what gives intimacy to this.

    • @VallaMusic
      @VallaMusic 11 місяців тому +11

      @@emanuel_soundtrack truly one of the most bizarre music comments I've ever read

    • @izzyk867
      @izzyk867 11 місяців тому

      @@VallaMusic does he mean that because Beethoven is known for ‘big’ (great) music, the fact that he is just as adept at this type of intimate music is what sets him apart as a composer??

    • @VallaMusic
      @VallaMusic 11 місяців тому +1

      @@izzyk867 personally i don't want to bother wasting any of my brain time trying to figure it out - and if I start ranting about what I think of the academic world and their opinions of what constitutes 'genius' and 'great' music, then I will get myself too worked up

  • @boundaryconditions1119
    @boundaryconditions1119 11 місяців тому +32

    I am not a good pianist, but I have played some of the late bagatelles, from Op 119. It's astonishing how much he gets from so little material. And at the same time, calling them "Bagatelles". His farewell to the piano is simultaneously dismissing it, and elevating the simplest of music to astonishing heights.

  • @Jantsenpr777
    @Jantsenpr777 11 місяців тому +16

    "Exquisite skill creates the illusion of utter simplicity". That's exactly what I was thinking: this seems so simple, and yet, it's so marvelously crafted. It reminds me of late Brahms, where he was able to take the most economical raw materials and make consummate masterpieces of them.

  • @ComposedBySam
    @ComposedBySam 11 місяців тому +81

    Such a fulfilling farewell. I can imagine beethoven composing this while remembering all of his struggles in the past with tears in his eyes and with a gentle smile on his face...

  • @demertzis2694
    @demertzis2694 11 місяців тому +16

    0:44 this note here hits in the heart omg

  • @nikbivation
    @nikbivation 11 місяців тому +51

    I could watch hours of music if they were narrated like this. Thank you!

  • @Baseline_truth
    @Baseline_truth 11 місяців тому +4

    Bagatelle: 'a thing regarded as too unimportant to be worth much consideration.' 😅
    I think not.
    Lovely bit of 🎶

  • @ihaveacoolnickname
    @ihaveacoolnickname 11 місяців тому +11

    For an artist, the gift of being able to encapsulate the sublime into the simple is one of the rarest of them all. You can search all your life and never find it.

  • @islaadele1212
    @islaadele1212 11 місяців тому +4

    Imagine having such supreme talent and yet being cursed by not being able to hear your own creations. I read that he had the legs cut off his piano so it was close to the ground and he could instead feel the vibrations. That's heartbreaking.

  • @johnchessant3012
    @johnchessant3012 11 місяців тому +51

    This is awesome! Composers' late works are endlessly fascinating to me

    • @zerois2801
      @zerois2801 11 місяців тому +4

      Indeed their stylistic evolution and growth is a joy to see

    • @themusicprofessor
      @themusicprofessor  11 місяців тому +8

      Late style is an endlessly fascinating topic.

  • @alenkapintar8660
    @alenkapintar8660 11 місяців тому +24

    I love Beethoven's music. One of the great composers. Never enough of his music.

  • @drmichaelshea
    @drmichaelshea 11 місяців тому +4

    I’ll always love Beethoven.

  • @DeflatingAtheism
    @DeflatingAtheism 11 місяців тому +32

    Incredibly gorgeous! Beethoven’s genius could find the incredible beauty in both complexity as well as simplicity!

  • @joestephens7105
    @joestephens7105 11 місяців тому +3

    Love it! Thanks for reminding me of this beautiful piece!

  • @JonathanOvnat
    @JonathanOvnat 11 місяців тому +7

    Wonderful 👏

  • @FRumpelstiltskin66
    @FRumpelstiltskin66 11 місяців тому +1

    Thank you for making this video

  • @synchro505
    @synchro505 11 місяців тому +1

    Outstanding. So fortunate to have found this channel. Many thanks.

  • @maryannpost8146
    @maryannpost8146 11 місяців тому +1

    Thank you for sharing this. I needed to hear this today. Love to all!

  • @darb.musica
    @darb.musica 11 місяців тому +1

    Beautiful. Great analysis, thank you

  • @paulograca3937
    @paulograca3937 11 місяців тому +28

    Beethoven is simply a genious

    • @tchaffman
      @tchaffman 11 місяців тому +7

      And yet he's just as human as all of us

    • @paulograca3937
      @paulograca3937 11 місяців тому +2

      ​@@tchaffmanfact

  • @ryebread7224
    @ryebread7224 11 місяців тому +1

    I really enjoy your commentary/notes in this video!

  • @chjxb
    @chjxb 4 місяці тому

    your videos are good. Genuine and to the point.

  • @juankliss
    @juankliss 11 місяців тому +1

    Simply made my cry with joy

  • @federicoprice2687
    @federicoprice2687 10 місяців тому +1

    Sublime. Thank you, Prof, for the reminder of this beautiful piece ❤

  • @basedokadaizo
    @basedokadaizo 11 місяців тому +4

    i like to compose music.
    i am teaching myself music theory. it is slow. i listen to other, better artists, and i somehow hope their spirit will descend into my hand.
    but i could never reach the heights this man had. he struggled far more than i do now, yet gave us such beauty.
    i know it's no good to give up just because others are better. but i just wish i could feel whatever took him over in those moments, with a pen and paper handy at the fortepiano.

  • @franciscocanizaressanchez-3638
    @franciscocanizaressanchez-3638 11 місяців тому

    Outstanding video and explanation.
    Perfect music!❤

  • @mduftube
    @mduftube 11 місяців тому

    Your analysis in the description is excellent

  • @user-kz8bi9zy7r
    @user-kz8bi9zy7r 4 місяці тому

    I love your works...thanks Beethoven

  • @hnrysml
    @hnrysml 2 місяці тому

    wow I hadn't heard this before and I absolutely loved it, and you can totally feel immediately how it inspired the songs without words

  • @user-iu2uq4zu9v
    @user-iu2uq4zu9v 11 місяців тому +1

    Beautiful content! No matter how familiar I am with a piece I will always watch your relevant video and find something new!

  • @philipthonemann2524
    @philipthonemann2524 4 місяці тому +1

    It is a beautiful little piece!

  • @TrainFlood
    @TrainFlood 4 місяці тому

    Sitting here crying at this piece. Thank you for sharing this

  • @harpsitardo
    @harpsitardo 11 місяців тому +8

    Great video on this fascinating piece. I still find this opus so gratifying to play.

    • @themusicprofessor
      @themusicprofessor  11 місяців тому +2

      It's wonderful. I think Beethoven intended the Op 126 cycle to be a self-contained set, almost an equivalent to a sonata - a different way of doing things. It was a pioneering thing to do. They are marvellous pieces.

    • @harpsitardo
      @harpsitardo 11 місяців тому +2

      @@themusicprofessor I think you're correct about that: not only does it make musical sense, but Beethoven himself seems to have had that goal (he wrote a note on the sketch of the first piece, "Ciclus von Kleinigkeiten", indicating the cyclical nature of the pieces).

  • @steve29roses
    @steve29roses 11 місяців тому +2

    The Bagatelles have a special place in my heart although it hadn't occur to that this was his farewell to the piano! Thank you for sharing.

    • @themusicprofessor
      @themusicprofessor  11 місяців тому +1

      Well, it's not the absolute farewell because there's another bagatelle after it!

  • @johnnyMcSheep
    @johnnyMcSheep 11 місяців тому +2

    This melancholic joy with a happy ache is why I subbed to this channel

    • @themusicprofessor
      @themusicprofessor  11 місяців тому

      Thank you so much! Wonderful comment.

    • @izzyk867
      @izzyk867 11 місяців тому

      That’s a beautiful description.

  • @greyshadow37
    @greyshadow37 6 місяців тому +2

    This is the type of music that I like. He'll always be an inspiration to me.

  • @alexhenderson3364
    @alexhenderson3364 11 місяців тому +11

    I havent even watched the video yet, but I'm shocked by the uncanny timing of this. I'm reading Gödel, Escher, Bach, A Golden Braid, and Just finished the section going over this hidden B-A-C-H at the end of his last piece. Didnt speak it out loud, didn't search for more info, and now I'm recommended a video by a UA-camr I've never seen, talking about this topic. Uncanny.

    • @themusicprofessor
      @themusicprofessor  11 місяців тому +3

      At some point, we will look at Bach's final contrapunctus in the Art of Fugue, where his name appears as his final unfinished fugue subject... (it is a bit mind-blowing!)

    • @sirwan505
      @sirwan505 11 місяців тому +2

      A great book by my favourite author. If you haven't already, you ought to read his book Metamagical Themas (this is a very cute anagram), and read up on his articles of music and pattern and his 'Variations on a Theme is the Crux of Creativity'. They are two fantastic articles on the very nature of 'originality' in ideas and he sheds light on some Beethoven and Chopin in these works. They very much allude to what Beethoven is doing here, especially the 'Variations on a Theme' article!

  • @JamwebMusic
    @JamwebMusic 2 місяці тому +1

    The simplicity makes it so beautiful 😢

  • @joeross9478
    @joeross9478 11 місяців тому +2

    I have recently subscribed and I love your channel. I have discovered several composers I had not heard of before and some music I really like. Even better I like the way you present your material. The comments are very much an addition. It's funny you both seem like a professor and you don't seem like one at all. Also I like the fact the scores are hand written. Thanks much.

    • @themusicprofessor
      @themusicprofessor  11 місяців тому +2

      Thank you so much for your encouraging comment. Simultaneously 'seeming like a professor and not seeming like one at all' - yes, I think that's very perceptive. I'm glad that's how it comes across.

    • @fatitankeris6327
      @fatitankeris6327 11 місяців тому

      This score is printed

  • @mk_9116
    @mk_9116 11 місяців тому +1

    So glad i discovered ur channel! Your videos are short and right to the point, unlike other channel when i have to watch 40min of nonsense. Keep it up.
    And, as a violinist, i hope i can see something related to my instrument. Im sure im not the only one. Something like Brahams, Dovrak or Sibelius violin concerto. That would be one hell of a video

  • @quantum3667
    @quantum3667 11 місяців тому

    Loving the content on your UA-cam channel!
    Thank you so much for posting such high quality visuals alongside the sheet music, it really helps in internalizing and understanding the compositions deeply and from a different perspective.
    I Really hope you get 10x the amount of views/subs, it is well deserved!

    • @themusicprofessor
      @themusicprofessor  11 місяців тому

      Thank you so much!

    • @quantum3667
      @quantum3667 11 місяців тому

      @@themusicprofessor Of course!
      Could I suggest a video on maybe the Rebecca Clarke Viola sonata or Joseph Jongen's concertino for viola and piano?
      Both composers have some outstanding and underrated works, and I'm sure some people would be interested in discovering such pieces!

  • @organforheartevarosemarier9773
    @organforheartevarosemarier9773 11 місяців тому

    Beautiful ❣❣❣

  • @darrenpursuingtruth2895
    @darrenpursuingtruth2895 11 місяців тому +4

    Great video.
    All the bagatelles (there are three sets) are gems, or as someone once described ‘chips from the masters workbench’. The final set of bagatelles by themselves are enough, in my estimation, to mark Beethoven as an exceptional composer.

    • @themusicprofessor
      @themusicprofessor  11 місяців тому

      Absolutely. If he'd written nothing but bagatelles, he'd be considered a very significant composer!

  • @gimenezagustin
    @gimenezagustin 11 місяців тому

    I didn´t know this piece, thank you very much.

  • @BenTrem42
    @BenTrem42 6 місяців тому +1

    _How very lovely ... and sad._

  • @deanedge5988
    @deanedge5988 11 місяців тому

    beautiful

  • @fredhoupt4078
    @fredhoupt4078 11 місяців тому +3

    The masters last bagatelles are supreme art, sublime, simple, compact, perfect gems. Coming into existence right after the mountains of the 9th, it seems like the exhausted and increasingly I'll master seeks to catch his breath, find a little balance. I agree that they greatly influenced the next generation of composers.

  • @DressedForDrowning
    @DressedForDrowning 7 місяців тому +1

    Wow, this one is great. Now I know who my favorite composer is.

  • @ZootBurger
    @ZootBurger 11 місяців тому +1

    Brilliant ❤❤

  • @blacksky492
    @blacksky492 11 місяців тому

    That was magical

  • @zainmardini9573
    @zainmardini9573 11 місяців тому +6

    My favorite bagatelle by Beethoven is the bagatelle that comes right before this one (Op.126, No. 4), for I am a huge sucker to the fast tempo, and intense, militaristic sound. However, this one is very good too!

    • @themusicprofessor
      @themusicprofessor  11 місяців тому

      There will be a video about 'the one before' soon...

  • @UMVELINQANGI
    @UMVELINQANGI 11 місяців тому

    Charming

  • @timothy4664
    @timothy4664 11 місяців тому +11

    My favorite bagatelle. I have always felt this work ought to be performed with a slightly slower tempo as it suits the composition's contemplative nature. This piece is easy to play but requires refined technique and sensibility to perform.

    • @themusicprofessor
      @themusicprofessor  11 місяців тому +2

      It seems easy but it's really difficult! I know what you mean about slower tempo, and I certainly used to play it slower. However, I'm convinced that Beethoven's 'Quasi Allegretto' implies a bit more movement than it often receives from pianists.

  • @bartremmelzwaal5775
    @bartremmelzwaal5775 11 місяців тому +5

    I'm ashamed that I wasn't aware of this opus... thanks, beautiful

    • @colinsoder
      @colinsoder 11 місяців тому

      I had never heard it either! So beautiful, playful, relaxing, and pleasant. Like an early morning walk through a meadow

  • @beethoven_makes_memes_lol
    @beethoven_makes_memes_lol 5 місяців тому +1

    I cried Super hard because this is just.. Sad..

  • @jacquesracine9571
    @jacquesracine9571 10 місяців тому

    Wow. It’s like all the pain is gone. He’s free.

    • @jacquesracine9571
      @jacquesracine9571 10 місяців тому

      I could have also said ‘My horse for the score”

    • @jacquesracine9571
      @jacquesracine9571 10 місяців тому

      Wonderful channel. Thanks for your great work. Very captivating.

  • @papertoymonsters2748
    @papertoymonsters2748 3 місяці тому +1

    Beethoven did with 2 voices what most couldn't with a 100

  • @TrebleWoofer1
    @TrebleWoofer1 11 місяців тому +2

    I played the last Eb bagatelle during my last year as an undergrad as a farewell to college. I went back and did my masters in music and currently teach, research, compose, yet Beethoven's music is STILL so captivating and interesting the older I get - - he just gets better. And let's not forget the man was deaf the last 10 years - - truly an unrelenting man

  • @DressedForDrowning
    @DressedForDrowning 7 місяців тому

    About 2 weeks ago I heard this piece for the first time and fell in love with it. Now I have a question to @The Music Professor, sir. As I understand, the piano in Beethoven's days sounded a bit different as today's pianos sound. How could he have composed such wonderful marvellous sonatas and pieces? Had he had some better versions of piano sound in mind? And can you make a comparison how a piece sounded in Beethoven's days and how it sounds today?

    • @themusicprofessor
      @themusicprofessor  7 місяців тому

      The fortepiano evolved very fast during Beethoven's lifetime and Viennese makers like Nannette Streicher (who was a close friend of Beethoven's) were adapting their pianos to the performance idioms that Beethoven's music required of the instrument. Even so, the pianos of Beethoven's lifetime had a very different sound and action from a modern Steinway. In many ways, their beautiful, fragile tone, and subtle variety of tone is much closer to Beethoven's imagination than the sound of the modern piano.

  • @diannalaubenberg7532
    @diannalaubenberg7532 10 місяців тому

    Oh, my!

  • @VRnamek
    @VRnamek 11 місяців тому +3

    you often find waltzes and other dances in his sonatas, like in pastoral or appassionata. But I think if there's a single Beethoven piece who really foreshadows and inspired the young romantics was his short sonatina op 79, often called Cuckoo, especially the andante... must have caused quite an impression on those kids

    • @themusicprofessor
      @themusicprofessor  11 місяців тому +1

      You're absolutely right - that little barcarolle had a big impact on Mendelssohn, and it is very similar in character to the middle of this bagatelle.

  • @benedicvelasco
    @benedicvelasco 4 місяці тому +1

    It's a shame Beethoven never wrote for the guitar. What wonders he would've made with it.

  • @wmadmw
    @wmadmw 11 місяців тому +2

    0:54 passage really reminds me of Shostakovich's 2nd Waltz, amazing!

    • @themusicprofessor
      @themusicprofessor  11 місяців тому +1

      Interesting. Another comment said the same. They are both in C and have a similar momentum but DSCH (being minor) is surely more melancholic.

    • @juliannadoyle8976
      @juliannadoyle8976 11 місяців тому

      What is DSCH stand for please?

    • @marcraider
      @marcraider 10 місяців тому +1

      @@juliannadoyle8976 I think he is refering to Dimitri Shostakovich

    • @andresfranzchavez113
      @andresfranzchavez113 6 місяців тому

      Actually, if you just whistle the main melody of this section you'll notice more clearly how similar the melodies are (apart from the harmonies). You can almost take one for the other

  • @karolcpm-
    @karolcpm- 11 місяців тому +2

    Beethoven just wanted to put the piano's music to sleep; or better yet, the piano itself.

  • @connormedberry4901
    @connormedberry4901 11 місяців тому +1

    Less is only more once you know what more is

  • @kent.1337
    @kent.1337 11 місяців тому

    you should do a vid on the first bagatelle from that set

  • @ShaunakDesaiPiano
    @ShaunakDesaiPiano 11 місяців тому +6

    0:56 you know what this reminds me of? Shostakovich’s arguably most famous piece, the Waltz from the 2nd Jazz suite.

    • @orgue2999
      @orgue2999 11 місяців тому

      Ouch

    • @ShaunakDesaiPiano
      @ShaunakDesaiPiano 11 місяців тому

      @@orgue2999 why ouch?

    • @themusicprofessor
      @themusicprofessor  11 місяців тому

      I can see what you mean - both tunes share a similar C tonality, and momentum, but Shostakovich's waltz is minor, and generally more melancholic!

    • @ShaunakDesaiPiano
      @ShaunakDesaiPiano 11 місяців тому +2

      @@themusicprofessor oh totally, I agree. I meant also the melodic line and phrasing of the Beethoven, compared with the Shostakovich

  • @themobiusfunction
    @themobiusfunction 11 місяців тому

    1:01 This C# creates a sharp dissonance (augmented octave) and yet it doesn't sound out of place at all!

  • @mottobel8502
    @mottobel8502 11 місяців тому

    Oh that A sharp..

  • @Stashi1808
    @Stashi1808 6 місяців тому

    I'm composing a leider based from my a favorite poem by Longfellow. It begins in Dm goes thru Bbm and ends in Bb I really want the Bb to sound like this. I thought it'd be easy, but how could Beethoven write such stuff? It's awe-inspiring. I feel the opposite from Beethoven. Writing for voice is easy for me where as piano with voice piano as backup that is, is like "child birth!"lol Is there any book on deconstructing Beethoven bagatelles? If so, which would you recommend? Or any books on "his Musical Majesty's" music. Thanks

    • @themusicprofessor
      @themusicprofessor  6 місяців тому +3

      It's a good question. It would be good if there was a book called "how to compose like Beethoven" but there isn't! The best way to learn though is to imitate initially. So you might like to look closely at a Beethoven bagatelle and see if you can do the same kind of thing your way...

    • @Stashi1808
      @Stashi1808 2 місяці тому

      Thank you! I finished it! And, though I may revise it a few times to come, it's exactly what I wanted. Someday I hope that a baritone and soprano will preform it, for now it is just a voice sound on my free composing app. I'll upload I today.❤

  • @LouisEmery
    @LouisEmery 11 місяців тому

    What piano(forte) was this played on? Now and then, it's nice to hear Beethoven's piano music on an instrument for which he may have known the sound.

    • @themusicprofessor
      @themusicprofessor  11 місяців тому

      I have had the great pleasure of playing a Nanette Streicher fortepiano that Beethoven probably played (housed at the Cobbe Collection in the UK) but actually this was recorded on a modern grand piano. I was pleased that, on the recording, it does almost sound like a fortepiano though.

  • @PaulJoseph
    @PaulJoseph 9 місяців тому +1

    Great presentation! Also, at 1:56 the key signature incorrectly states D instead of G.

    • @themusicprofessor
      @themusicprofessor  9 місяців тому +2

      The middle section is in D and this is taken from the first edition - I suspect it's an engraver's error.

    • @themobiusfunction
      @themobiusfunction 7 місяців тому

      @@themusicprofessor actually the middle section is in C

  • @FindleyOcean
    @FindleyOcean 9 місяців тому

    Thank you for introducing me to this piece! Now was Beethoven completely deaf when he wrote this?

    • @themusicprofessor
      @themusicprofessor  9 місяців тому +1

      His hearing was very poor at the end of his life, although I believe he could hear some sounds, and I believe he still made use of ear trumpets when composing.

  • @KVSGamer
    @KVSGamer 11 місяців тому

    Beethoven's last word to his piano was a rest

  • @curtmcd
    @curtmcd 11 місяців тому

    I was expecting the one in F major called literally "Adieu to the piano".

    • @themusicprofessor
      @themusicprofessor  11 місяців тому +2

      "Adieu to the piano" is a little early Romantic F major piece with a pretty melody. Probably not by Beethoven.

  • @qwaqwa1960
    @qwaqwa1960 9 місяців тому

    How about the "bagatelle" discovered ~15y ago in his Missa(?) ms...? (or a late 4tet was it...?)

  • @sherylbegby
    @sherylbegby 11 місяців тому +4

    Does anyone know anything about the authenticity of this piece? I inherited a ton of sheet music as a kid, but this one had "Definitely not by Beethoven" clearly written in the margin. And if you search for this piece on the internet there's plenty of doubt about its authenticity, although it is described as a "popular parlor piece in the 19th and early 20th century" in some places.

    • @themusicprofessor
      @themusicprofessor  11 місяців тому +17

      Sorry but I think you need to check your sources on this one. The Op 126 bagatelles are as authentic as the 5th Symphony. These are essential late works, with absolutely no query whatsoever of authenticity. His handwritten manuscript can be seen online (on IMSLP) as can the 1st edition, which was published under his supervision in 1825. The manuscript and published materials are all in the Beethoven Haus in Bonn, if you want to check on their reliability! www.beethoven.de/en/work/view/6442185083846656/Six+Bagatelles+for+piano+op.+126

    • @emanuel_soundtrack
      @emanuel_soundtrack 11 місяців тому +1

      i wrote this

    • @Veepee92
      @Veepee92 11 місяців тому +3

      Are you sure you're not confusing this with the Sonatina in G major? That one has dubious authenticity.

    • @eriksatieofficiel
      @eriksatieofficiel 11 місяців тому

      @@themusicprofessor How do we know about the authenticity of the 5th symphony though?

    • @themusicprofessor
      @themusicprofessor  11 місяців тому

      I suspect the confusion is with a piece called 'Adieu for the Piano' which is a very pretty Romantic piano piece in F major, published in the 1830s and attributed to Beethoven for commercial reasons. It's a lovely waltz in a moderate tempo, with a charming tertiary shift to A major, that's not unlike the kind of thing Beethoven does on occasion. However, it has a Romantic salon character that Beethoven's music very rarely (if ever) has. It's still a nice piece though and not too difficult to play.

  • @nachito2002
    @nachito2002 8 місяців тому

    There Are Two Musical Pieces That Could Be Possibly His Last Works:
    1) String Quartet No. 13 In B-Flat Major, Op. 130: Negative Reaction To The Work's Final Movement At The First Performance, And His Publisher's Urging, Led Beethoven To Write A Substitute For The Final Movement, A Contredanse Much Shorter And Lighter Than The Enormous Große Fuge It Replaced. This New Finale Was Written In The Late Autumn of 1826, During A Relapse Into Severe Illness, And Is The Final Complete Piece of Music Beethoven Composed Before His Death In March, 1827.
    2) Bagatelle In F Minor, Kullack f. 51/52: This Was Written In 1826, A Year After The Six Bagatelles. IMSLP Says This Could Be The Last Composition For Piano, Actually Uncatalogued.
    3) Instrumental Draft, Biamonti 849: Written In 1827, It Contains Sketches For The Last Movement of His String Quartet No. 13, Op. 130. According To An Annotation By The Highly Unreliable Anton Schindler, These Are The Last Notes Written By Beethoven, Ten or Twelve Days Before His Death. Based On Its Location, This Fragment Is Indeed One of The Very Last Musical Writings, If Not The Last, Of The Composer, And Cannot Date From Any Earlier Than November 1826. The Intended Instrumentation Is Unclear, But Since It Appears On Two Staves Piano Was Conjectured. This Item Has The Final Biamonti Number.

    • @themusicprofessor
      @themusicprofessor  8 місяців тому +2

      There is also a sketch for an unfinished string quintet and several incomplete sketches for a 10th symphony. I recall that Beethoven also spoke, near the end of his life, about wanting to compose a requiem and an overture on the theme B.A.C.H.

  • @BenjaminCherkassky
    @BenjaminCherkassky 9 місяців тому

    1:09 How did it inspire a genre? Barcarolles have been popular since at least the 1770s. And Mendelssohn's Venetian gondola songs are very different in tone

    • @themusicprofessor
      @themusicprofessor  9 місяців тому +2

      In the 1820s Mendelssohn studied late Beethoven more than any other composer.

  • @malcolmdale9607
    @malcolmdale9607 3 місяці тому

    I seem to be the only one that is not convinced that Beethoven wrote this. It is nothing like the style of any of his late works.

    • @themusicprofessor
      @themusicprofessor  3 місяці тому +1

      erm...given that we have it in his manuscript and he had it published in 1825, I'm not sure how to convince you further. Actually the style is similar to several passages I can think of. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bagatelles,_Op._126_(Beethoven)

  • @Fagocytos1s
    @Fagocytos1s 11 місяців тому +4

    I really enjoy and appreciate your content, as it reminds me of the importance of learning the actual history and story behind each composer's piece, with which to imbue one's own performance of it. Thank you for enhancing both my own performance of pieces and my appreciation of them!

    • @themusicprofessor
      @themusicprofessor  11 місяців тому +1

      Thank you so much. Wonderful to hear that it's helpful. Yes -it's so important to know the context of the music we play: it makes it all come alive!

    • @Fagocytos1s
      @Fagocytos1s 11 місяців тому +1

      ​@@themusicprofessor Totally. It's what we're all taught by our music/instrument teachers but when we move on, as I have, a lot of us forget that and just interpret a piece and it's story solely from what we hear. Historical study is integral to musicianship, not just the act of performance.

  • @harryk4840
    @harryk4840 11 місяців тому +1

    Lo es

  • @andresdaniel6711
    @andresdaniel6711 11 місяців тому

    La Romanesca.

  • @Gustinante
    @Gustinante 2 місяці тому

    There seems to be a mistake at the end of the score, 'cause you're playing in G major but the score is in D major. 1:58

    • @themusicprofessor
      @themusicprofessor  2 місяці тому

      Yes - it's the first edition from 1826. The key signature is wrong.

  • @bealreadyhappy
    @bealreadyhappy 11 місяців тому

    I don’t understand why do you say it’s his farewell to the piano? please explain thank you

    • @themusicprofessor
      @themusicprofessor  11 місяців тому +2

      If you read the video description, below the video, it gives a very clear explanation! This is the 5th piece in Beethoven's final set of Bagatelles Op 126, his last major piano composition.

  • @majorpayne8373
    @majorpayne8373 3 місяці тому

    Was this a French bagatelle?

  • @mtrsoftwareservices
    @mtrsoftwareservices 11 місяців тому +1

    Okay, now I'm sad. 😢

    • @themusicprofessor
      @themusicprofessor  11 місяців тому +3

      Beethoven's too life-affirming to be too sad.

    • @eriksatieofficiel
      @eriksatieofficiel 11 місяців тому +2

      It's been known for many years that Beethoven was dead though.

  • @houdacookies
    @houdacookies 11 місяців тому

    Plz can someone give me the opus and number?

  • @museprof
    @museprof 11 місяців тому

    If Bach had written this, the melodic gesture in the right hand in bar 2 and elsewhere would be an obvious example of the Kreuz (cross) motif, and the parallel thirds and 3-part writing would be candidates for Trinitarian symbolism. What are your thoughts on whether Beethoven intended these to be Christian symbols?

    • @themusicprofessor
      @themusicprofessor  11 місяців тому +2

      It's difficult to know - he's not explicit about it. He is explicit in the great sonata Op 110 in which the finale appears to be a symbolic representation of death and resurrection.

    • @jrgptr935
      @jrgptr935 11 місяців тому

      Erstens: Hätte, hätte, Fahrradkette.
      Zweitens: Wenn Bthvn nichts darüber gesagt oder geschrieben hat, dann wissen wir rein gar nichts darüber, was er gedacht haben könnte. Er könnte eben durchaus an die duftenden Bratkartoffeln mit Zwiebeln, die es um 18 Uhr zum Nachtessen geben sollte, gedacht haben.

  • @marksmale827
    @marksmale827 11 місяців тому

    I wonder what Ludwig would have been happy with the modern pianoforte.

    • @themusicprofessor
      @themusicprofessor  11 місяців тому +1

      Hard to know. The fortepiano of his time was a very different instrument.

  • @dima.jiharev
    @dima.jiharev Місяць тому

    That Bethoven guy, did he dieded?

  • @gregmonks
    @gregmonks 11 місяців тому

    The most amazing thing about beethoven was that he was a tiny, wee man. Vertically challenged, one might say. Yet he had large hands, and arms like an ape. So he was an oddly proportioned fellow. That would have made him genetically odd, too. I've always suspected that he was a throwback to our Neanderthal ancestors, with an oversized occipital bun full of the ancestral memories of the species, and a big, fat imagination, where all manner of odd things took place.

  • @user-ce6sr1my6k
    @user-ce6sr1my6k 11 місяців тому

    0:47 Tchaikovsky)))

    • @themusicprofessor
      @themusicprofessor  11 місяців тому

      Interesting. Which piece?

    • @mystogan6556
      @mystogan6556 11 місяців тому

      ​@@themusicprofessormy guess is Waltz of the Flower. Could be wrong but that's the closest one

  • @louisvalencia5244
    @louisvalencia5244 6 місяців тому

    Letzer Musikalischer Gedanken ?

  • @Carl_Johnson75
    @Carl_Johnson75 6 місяців тому

    Name of piece?

    • @Sekirios
      @Sekirios 6 місяців тому

      Bagatelle Op.126 No.5