75 Horsepower Compact Tractor + 10' Flex Wing Mowing, John Deere Compact Tractor
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- Опубліковано 30 тра 2023
- Putting the new John Deere 4075R to the test - mowing with the RhinoAg 10' flexwing mower in tall grass on uneven ground! Tractor Time with Tim and Kenton evaluate how the tractor handles compared to the JD5075E and the mower!
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That really did make quick work of mowing that area, and the cut quality was so much better that a single spindle cutter. Nice combination with the tractor and the TS10. Plus, a fun time! Thanks to you both. Blessings.
I agree. The higher horsepower versions of each size of machine certainly rule the roost when it comes to mowing. I really like the looks of the new Kubota LX4020 for that reason. If you’re going to have horsepower beyond emissions thresholds, there’s not much reason to not try to push that limit a bit. I.e., I can’t think of a reason to buy a 44 52 or 66 hp 4 series when there’s a 75. What am I missing?
In he LX case, the tractor itself is not suited for the larger HP in my opinion. Refer to our videos where we try to hook it to the TS10.
When you have videos with audio challenges and multiple cameras, it really reminds me of how hard Christy works piecing everything together. Great job Christy!!
*Keep on tractoring!* 😁👍
It’s enjoyable to see Kenton on your channel.
Thanks Steve! It was fun. Kenton
My offer still stands, I am unselfish enough to allow you to come down here to southern Va and demo whatever you like on my 20 acres. I’m that swell. 😊
We all love free labor 😉
I think the only one under any stress in this video is Christie flying a drone around a bunch guy wires, the tower, buildings, bushes, and moving tractors!
Matt, this is Christy. You are right that it’s stressful to fly around all those wires. Thank you for noticing!
How you can flatten that ground without tilling will be a great video series.
Best part of the whole video. Watching you two have fun an laughing together. That’s what it’s all about. Two thumbs up 👍🏻 👍🏻 guy.
I feel like someone needs to make a T-shirt celebrating the hydrostatic transmission. I may have to look into that. Another fun, educational video with absolutely no mistakes I'm sure. The audio was great from either source you had, continually impressive.
I like these Tower Property mowing videos. They're very laid back & relaxing. Definitely my speed..... Thanks for posting.
Once again, I'd like to applaud your audio quality. Always excellent, despite all the equipment. Your hard work and investment really makes these videos shine, and when all else fails, y'all do a great voice over.
I'd be supremely interested in a video covering different ways to address lumpy ground without having to kill the grass. Rollers, dethatchers, I'm sure there's probably some other tools for the job. It's a problem we have every year, and I about roll my ankle just walking around!
Same here Dennis. I have a few properties that the fields just shake me to pieces trying to mow with my JD 1070. I'd love to see some options.
I am also interested on how to level this, I’ve got quite rough pastures but don’t want to kill my pasture grasses
Maybe a subsoiler in the spring for a few years. A good, deep, wet freeze will help too as long as you dont add new ruts.
Sand it a few inches at a time. Grass comes right back through the sand in a matter of weeks. It's a common golf course practice.
I was thinking the same thing with a least a roller to start with. If only they made a PTO vibratory roller...
Another nice video on the 4075R. A bit large for my particular application and am eager to see more videos on the new 3046R, which you showed a few days ago, along side of the 4075R. Please show more on the 3046R as your time permits. I'm currently contemplating on the existing JD 3039R, the new JD 3046R, a Kubota LX-4020, or a Kubota Grand L-4060. Any and all comments are greatly appreciated! Thanks, Tim!
Hi again Kenton! Love your laugh sir!
Thanks. I’m glad that you enjoy it. For me it’s “Fun with Tractor Time with Tim”.
I an so glad to hear you mention starting PTO equipment at idle. Over 50 now and have been doing that since I was a kid.
I would love to see you take this to the hayfield as you have done with a few other tractors! Just got a baler and rake, now I just need a new tractor! Would also like a baling comparison with the 5075e, im waffling between the two
Also with this a comparison between the TS10 and a haybine, could a hobby farmer use the TS10 to cut hay
I would imagine it would be pretty low quality hay as a brush mower chops up the grass pretty finely and a hay mower leaves it all intact
I would disk that field with a disk that has the notched blades to get rid of the rough areas. It already has a lot of trash in it so not losing much by disking. Then plant hay or grass.
Great video loving that 4075R I bet it would be an awesome tractor for a hay making operation especially being hydrostat
Unless it's needed for counter weight, I'd prefer to mow with the bucket off. Can see to the front better, and make turns easier without it hanging out there.
Thanks for the video.
I agree about the bucket comment
We have had a customer test the 4075R for 2 years here in Quebec on snow applications and the beefier front axle and more pto definitely are an improvement. Snow contractors tend to be less gentle with their equipment
He's bouncing around pretty good in that field. I don't feel bad about my fields being rough now....
I agree, Mine also
If the roughness is due to the clump grass, more frequent mowing can help. When mowed frequently, the clumps tend to disappear as the grass adjusts. You could also spot spray the largest clumps with Roundup to let finer grasses take their place.
Looks like its doing a better job than the solectrac 😎
Nice mowing job guys! (That was some mighty rough terrain!!)
Ron Popeil would be pleased with the multiple purposes you've found for that mower. 😉
I grew up learning to mow on great drives. I do like the hydrostatic on mostly level ground but if I'm mowing something more hilly I'm more comfortable with gear drive.
This 4075 looks to be like a really great tractor.
Deere shows a field-installed ePTO available for this rig. I was looking at a 4066R but now I see this unit so that may be what I go with. Thanks for your videos on the 4075R.
I have A JD 4066R with an E12 Batwing mower with no problems cutting high grass.
The ride in my 5075E is overall pretty sweet. And I had a very recent mow that mirrors what you guys went through today. MX7 ran great at 4.5mph, except in the shorter thick stuff
It's nice how sharp of a turn you can make with that mower
That’s a beautiful setup! That John Deere is a amazing machine in every way so far. Really wished they would have made the lifting performance just a tad bit more to diversify between the different models. But I totally agree with you on the hydrostatic trans. My 1025r is just the best when I mow with it or any other pull behind job.
Enjoying my 10’ Rhino flex other than the wing hinges should have had grease fittings put on them . Let’s get started
I didn’t know you had one, Randy!
@@TractorTimewithTim Yes sir ! I bought it last year Tim
This is my first year using my 40 series 15ft land pride it amazing how much fuel you save by cutting faster and the finish of them is great!! But they are defiantly a HP trap backing up turning I can hit breaks to go forward mower will pull me straight. Not to mention how much power you need when getting into 5ft over growth . I think a good safety note to anyone looking to buy one is you really need 50% more HP then minimum rated they are just heavy. I am pulling mine with a 96 horse tractor and the mower would love another 80 horses of tractor lol
I ran a 6170r on a CX 15 and that thing would run it in 1000ptoE and not even break a sweat. That was mowing palmetto in South Florida. A 6130M is pretty standard for a 15ft cutter in heaver conditions. My town uses 5100m and Shulte 15ft cutters to mow right of way. But they keep up with it so it's really only half a step above a lawn.
You could twist my arm to mow with that machine and the 10’ cutter. lol Very nice machine!
I remove the bucket when I mow with the tractor. It makes for a better ride
Try dual tires all around to help make the ride a little smoother.
That was a great demo Tim! Makes me envious that my options are probably limited to single blades with my subcompact. I can't remember if you've done multiblade pto mowing with the factory 1025r.
The tire size and air pressure will definitely make a difference. Taking your FEL bucket off will help as well. It reduces the weight that’s hanging out front. Don’t know how much difference it’ll make for you,…but it made a big difference on my MF 6490.
As far as the bouncing around issue, it would have been less i believe, if the bucket was removed from the FEL. Great video Tim!
Great mowing video. I have no experience in that type of mowing with a cutter like that. So I can’t really say much, other than it does a nice job. I do have a 6’ rear discharge finish mower that works great and cuts just as good as my garden tractor mowers. Mentioning garden tractor mowers, most are hydrostatic. Even my old ones are, 40 to 50 years old. And for mowing hydrostatic is the answer, no matter what machine your using. Just my opinion.
Have a great day. Looks nice there.
Oh, and my guess for air pressure in the tires is 12 psi. That’s what I’d put in. Just my thought.
An individual has a 100 hp JD and lager bat mower mowing about 15 miles both sides and the center of a four lane federal highway. It too does a nice job!!
On my 4520, the ride is much better with the loader removed. They come off quickly for a reason. If not needed remove it. Saves the equipment and the user.
Looks Good! The area could use a little disc action to help smooth it out.
TS-10 matched to a 4 series is a perfect match. Prior to retiring to Florida I pulled my TS-10 with a 55 hp 4 series TYM tractor. I noticed you left the quick hitch in place. I couldn’t because I had some hills to deal with and at times when turning I’d get too close to the PTO shaft.
Yea, was close…especially when we lowered it a bit allowing the camera to see :-)
Would love to see the hydro in the 5 series but I am sure I am dreaming.
Definitely a nice tractor and cutter. Waiting to see the loader strength.
Same as all 4r tractors.
Great video Tim thanks! That 4075r is a dream tractor. Only if i could get my wife to let me trade the 4052m in on it 😅
It would be interesting to see how you'd tackle removing the rock in the field - what size machine and implement(s).
Tim, Since you are mowing the same piece of property, how is the comparison to the Solectrac you used last time. It would appear that this tractor is doing the same job much faster and completed the job.
I mow all the time with my 4066R and Deere FC12E in E-PTO mode 3' grass No Problem !!!
I have the same 4066R and FC12E. E-PTO still has plenty power.
I run a TS 12 with a 45 HP geared and have no problem pulling it. I just love the cut it does and tight turns I can make due to the hitch on the TS 12. Do you get a lot of grass build up under the front hood of the mower. I worry about over the front of the mower.
Tim, at 20:10 you state there is no shift on the go with the 5E, which is not correct. you select your range at a stop just like the hydro drive. you can select your gear (1,2,3, or 4) while on the move by simply pressing in the foot clutch.
Shift on the go, is typically defined as changing gears under power. Not ‘synchronized transmission’.
That option for the loader suspension think its like $700 is looking pretty good right now huh? People say they like to mow without the loader but i actually prefer it. It allows me to move stuff out of the way (downed branches and such) without having to get out of the cab. Is there Rim Guard in the wheels? It can act as a huge damper with correct air pressure as you mentioned to quell the bounce. Great content as always! Thats pretty close to a dream combination for me to own at some point.
I too mow with the loader on for the same reason you do. I will sometimes mow without the bucket.
22mph that’s really nice, I wish my machine was that fast on the road. Does Deere make a soft ride feature for their loader, you can clearly see from the aerial footage in that video that it would really make a difference. Great video Tim.
Yes, they do make a soft ride option.
Good looking tractor, like the size vs HP.
I wonder if you could use the power rake and the primary seeder to fix the rough ride, Tim?
Cut that grass really short. Rent a large top dressing machine and get you a whole lot of sand. Spread the sand all over the area and drag a chain linked fence all over the sand to get it to level in the low areas. This will smooth the area out. You can repeat the process over and over until it is as smooth a glass. Make sure the sand is super dry.
Uh, whatever.
you need to buy it!:)
Dropping your tire pressure might smooth the ride
Might need to disc & till the rough spots to smooth those areas.
Regarding the wheel base, are those short wheel base tractors more prone to roll overs than the longer wheelbase tractors? I recall the issues with the Jeeps that have a "square" footprint (i.e., wheel spacing about as long as wide). Hills are the norm in my area and the times I've spun wheels are countless. I also vividly recall a near roll over on a Gravely Commercial tractor back in the 70s that I saved by sticking a leg out and pushing off while turning down hill.
It would be nice if these mowers cut a little cleaner and did leave so many grass clumps. Something between a brush cutter and a finish mower.
A brush cutter and a finish mower do each have their own purpose.
Maybe. …but this mower has incredible cut compared to its competition.
I'm curious about the parking brake issue. My new 2023 1025R with the new style parking brake lever does the same thing.
Tim with the 4075R could you please put the brush mulcher on to see how it does
Use white sand to fill in holes. It's cheaper then dirt and grass grows right through
as far as the roughness I would just use a heavy roller in the spring when the ground is still high in moisture soft and easy to manipulate, tearing it up would be costly
I keep watching 5E videos and this R trying to make a decision and I keep coming back to this smaller frame. I have over 55+ acres to mow, like the ease of this one and it’s smaller size, but I fear it will just get beat up too much asking it to do the job that a larger frame is better suited. Still no decision.
Mowing is perfect for a hydrostatic drive.
@@TractorTimewithTim adjusting speed seemed like a breeze with the 4R, I worry about temps though. I live in south Louisiana, 100 deg for y’all is a heat wave, we call it spring lol. I like that they cast the axle in steel, but would you be comfortable mowing 55+ acres in a small(ish) compact? I’ve been looking at a 5100M and though it’s just one family up, it’s a much physically larger tractor (in person, cameras never give good view of scale) any how, just found your channel and being Green I’ve picked up some great tips as you have a large catalog on Deere machines and have covered so much of them and go in depth. Keep up the great work, you have a new subscriber!
@@Harikarikillboy thanks!
A 5100M with the command quad or command 8 transmission would be a wonderful choice. No question. You could go 15’ with that machine.
If you don't like that tractor send it my way lol. Just teasing. Have a great day
Sorry if this is a stupid question, but what is the story with the tower property? Do you own it?
GREAT Video, I like the tractor, What is the wheel base of the 4R and the 5E?? It would ride better if you had 200# of weight in the bucket of the loader... 😊🍔🍔❤️🙏
With a shorter wheelbase leaving the loader on for these jobs will make the ride much rougher
Would the ride be different if the loader was off the tractor or even the bucket? Next time here in the future I will cut my pastures with the brush mower but after almost hitting the neighbors fence because the bucket sticking out on the sides i will remove it.
Excellent rig! Did the parking brake engage 10:27?
Did you have the audio on? I discussed.
@@TractorTimewithTim Yepper, another on of those, watching, paused, stepped away, starts running again, and i sent when i met to delete. My bad.
Why not use the tiller on a smaller machine to clear out around all of the guy wires?
Any way you could test this mower on a Kubota L4701 or the new L4802? Just wondering how the mower performs with my 45 H.P. tractor.
Very impressive but it looks like you should be using a plow discs and seeder.
I noticed different size tires on both 75 horse tractors. Would this affect the ride quality?
Did they do any upgrades the air conditioning? I thought that has been a problem.
Hey Tim, does that wing mower have cv joints on the primary driveline off the rear pto? I have u-joints on mine and it hammers any time you turn any tighter than a few degrees.
Yep. Very large cv.
I have a 5065E which I use mainly for mowing and moving round bales. My question is, how would you compare the two tractors (4052/4075 and 5075 for these jobs? I see the advantage the 4 series has for mowing, but will the shorter wheel base make moving bales more difficult?
I can say that I do load round bales in the field with my 4052R, with ballast of course. .
I know of 2 brothers that bought a new LS tractor and they mowed some huge fields and didn't know to keep the radiator screen clean and burnt up the motor and hst but do you know the dealer had it taken care of and it cost the 2 brothers nothing. I would never get that kind of luck, in fact the dealer went over this with me. My screen doesn't exactly come out easy without taking the support out for the air cleaner.
On a serious note, after listening to the feedback from both of you, what would be the ideal? The weight and wheelbase of the 5 series with a hydrostatic? Or do you prefer the size of the 4 series. I’m betting if they could make a 5 series size machine with a hydro it would sell like hotcakes.
The 5r was pretty stinking close to that had a 24speed shift and auto clutch on the joystick and it flopped.
I think the four series is more nimble, tighter turning radius and i think more responsive in closer quarters, woods or areas with more obstacles compared to the 5 series. Of course the the 5 series with a hydrostatic drive would ride better and would perform well in more open areas, where maneuverability and obstacles would not be a big issue. it could be an interesting proposition..
Even with 60 at the pto Tim is still revving it past the 540 mark from what I could see. Wide open as he says means wide open…
Do you plan to remove more of the tree area in that field?
Yes, plan to remove all those around the tower.
The R4 tires on 4 series tractors are very bouncy. R1 in the wide setting will fix alot of that.
Wow that's ruff. Tim maybe you could disc that up and drag it off real smooth so it want tear up your equipment.
Did Deere fix the front axle seal leaking problem on this new model?
Is the front axle on 4075R vented?? I've had 4052R and 4066R with leaking front axle seals fixed by Deere under warranty. There is a aftermarket vent kit that replaces plastic oil dipstick.
Would be interesting to see how it pairs with a Woods BW12 batwing or a 15’ or 17’ turf batwing…
We partner with both Rhino AND Woods, but I am quite partial to the TS10 in this category. Absolutely amazing mower.
Tim how much fuel an hour did it us? From gary
Air ride seats are not all they are cracked up to be i prefer spring seats with hydraulic dampers or as some call them shock absorbers . And yes running the tire pressure lower will help on the bumps 10 - 15 psi in the rear tires should be fine if your not carrying any implements on the three point hitch.
Tim in your a pinion which would be better a flail mower or a bush hog type in high weeds and small twig trees?
Rotary cutter for me.
How much air are you running with in your tractor tires? I have a 4066R. Have 16 lbs. in rear and 30 lbs in front tires.
Discussed in the video.
I guess some other questions are, is there anything this tractor can do that the 4066 has trouble with? Similarly, does this do anything the 5075 can't? Does this tractor have a target audience like the HD models?
I'm a 4066 owner, and let's be honest, I want this one (I think it would also be zero-rated in Canada, meaning no sales tax), but at the same time it seems like the 4066 would do everything this would do just fine. If you want even more power, you go up to the bigger 5-series chassis. I suppose this is quite a bit cheaper than the 5-series.
More expensive than 5e.
Targeted to snow removal. I suspect the ‘zero rated’ is intentional.
Could you put the 3 and 4 series tractors side by side for a size comparison? It would be interesting to see the physical differences in stance and height between the two. Are they nearly the same build and stature with only the 4 series having a larger motor?
Have you had to put wheel spacers on the 4075R for better stability? I had to put 3"-wheel spacers on my 3039R as it nearly flopped on it's side while loading a trailer and rear tire dipped into a hole. Luckily, I felt it start to lean and lowered the bucket rapidly to the ground and put it back on all 4 wheels before it flopped over. Had I been up to the trailer and actually loading, I'm not sure I could have saved it. But had just enough room to lower the loader to the ground and save the tractor. Ordered the wheel spacers the very next day. Haven't regretted it for a moment.
Did you watch the prior episode????
@Tractor Time with Tim I thought I did but maybe I missed it. I normally watch all of your videos. I'll double check.
Had em side by side. Didn’t do a direct comparison, but would have a good view of stature for comparison.
@Tractor Time with Tim Oops, I did miss that one. Thanks for letting me know. 4 series has wider stance and few inches taller. Thanks.
@Tractor Time with Tim with the wider stance probably and slightly taller, probably not as tippy and might not need the spacers for the rear wheels.
yall gunna rake and bale that grass?
Where did you get that stihl comm headset tim? Can you listen to music via blutooth until you need to talk to someone?
It is called Stihl Advance Procom. Not sure it is still available. Yes, it has bluetooth.
Dull blades are good blades on a rotary cutter
E-PTO is a dealer installed option
I noticed what you said about being able to vary the speed more easily with the Hydro transmission...
And... your not in hilly ground.
Would I be wrong to point out that with a 5075e... you can use the hand throttle... which to me is more precisely adjustable than the foot throttle... but has the added advantage of... engine braking... IE... if you're going down a hill and its feeling a bit squirrelly you can slow down with the trottle and leave the pedals alone... which keeps it in gear... cause you know the tractors not going to move faster than the transmission will let it go.
Transmission better at holding tractor back than brakes.
Slowing the hand throttle slows the mower speed, reducing cut quality.
Hydrostatic slow down maintains RPM and therefore does not hinder cut quality.
Hydrostatic transmission acts as brake as well when you let off the pedal. It will be equally effective, or nearly as effective as gear transmission in that regard.
In our next demonstration video, we will show the hydrostatic transmission at its ‘weak spot’ which is pulling ground engaging attachments.
Meanwhile, I strongly believe that Hydrostatic is superior (FAR superior) to a straight gear drive tractor when mowing or using similar PTO attachments.
…baling hay, tilling, etc.
@@TractorTimewithTim when I thought about it, I realized... while my PTO may get up to like 580 in my 5075, lowering the throttle might lower my pto to 540-520... over all you're right.
Is there a hydrostatic 75 or so hp tractor that's big enough that a 5ft round baler wont push it around on hills and that lifting those bales wont get it off balance. I'm the southwestern corner of Va... nothing is flat
I dunno. I suspect with Rimguard fluid in the tires and wheel weights, it would handle it. However, your experience might be more than mine.
@@TractorTimewithTim you have more experience. Farm has been in the family since the 1800's. I am 4th generation to try to hold on to it and try to keep it going. I watch you... to learn
Looks faster than my L6040…. And AC in the cab …..
Short wheelbase equals rough ride.
I thought you just flail mowed that?