My husband is a paramedic and all parents who find their children deceased always panic and try to revive them/ scream and beg for their paramedics to help them even when they’re clearly gone.
Absolutely... And the fact he told that he had a feeling of "happiness" when he discovered her makes absolutely no sense... What one could feel discovering his supposed "abducted" child is in fact lying on the ground in a dark room in your own basement just cannot be "happiness", or relief, as if, for exemple, you were anxiously searching her for a while and finally found her playing in the basement... This has no sense to feel "happy" before you even made sure she's alive and well, especially if she doesn't seem so at all...
@@abrakadabraa7787I agree, it's such a bizarre thing to say. Like someone with abnormal emotions trying so hard to appear normal they miss the mark and stick out.
I was a PM 40 years ago. I recall parents being physically restrained so we could work on the child. Even a simple broken bone would cause major drama. Listen to the 911 calls now available. People who have murd3r3d their own children tend to be calm. Or fake hysterics. In this situation, money talks....loudly. Sad
"Acceptance of victim's death" is actually one of the check boxes the FBI use to determine a guilty 911 caller (one involved in the death of the victim.) Innocent people will usually be in denial of the death, or simply uncertain.
The police are entirely to blame for it, imo. They didn't search the house properly. Didn't secure the house. Allowed half the neighborhood to roam the house at will. Allowed John and friend to search the house later. Allowed the body to be contaminated by being covered with two different items. Etc.
@@vicksta8875no one ever said anything about them. Same in oj case. The quality wouldn't b as good. It just seemed strange. In upscale places ppl had them.
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The Ramseys didn't act like parents who just unexpectedly lost their golden child in such a brutal and tragic way. They always had a calmness and coldness to them because mentally they were at peace with JBs death, they knew what happened. They weren't sick to their core and asking "why." And they are defensive. I feel nothing when they talk. Whereas a parent showing true emotion would make me sob.
Perfectly said. I agree; in some clips you can see them smiling and laughing- it was disgusting. TO compare, I saw a poor lady in her 80's whose son disappeard in the 1940's ( this was on Unsolved Mysteries in 1986) and she as cryinig and crying and her son's abduction happened 52 yers before that interview and she was still crying after all those years. She wasn't smiling or lauging or defending herself constantly. You can sense when someone is sincere....
burke told the shrink he wasn't scared, and this was just weeks after she was murdered. not concerned about a killer in the loose at all. i was shocked. he even said he was ready to move on!
@@regbarnard2866well, I think they parents covered for Burke in this case. With Maddie I think her mother overdosed her accidentally because god forbid should she not get to go out to dinner that night. The little girl died and they panicked. Those two parents I HATE. The Ramsey’s I feel we’re just trying to protect their remaining child
What bothers me most is that John Ramsey shows absolutely no sadness or grief in his interviews, whereas Patsy, at least in the beginning, was grief-stricken. He even shows duper's delight in at least one interview. The whole matter is disgraceful. Their money and influence got them off the hook.
@keepitsimple4629, I always believed John Ramsey was lying in all his videos. I never believed JonBenet was put to bed as soon as they got home. I don't believe The Ramseys did not know the secret service examined the RN. There was not some similarities in the RN of Patsy's handwriting. There were many. Cena Wong was a handwriting expert and she said Patsy definitely wrote that RN. I don't believe the Ramseys put the white blanket over JonBenet to keep her body temperature from getting colder to make it look like she died sooner than later. They were not doctors to know something like this. This was a gesture that somebody close to her killed her. Who does not know their own handwriting. Keep lying Patsy.
@@freddie3206 Not being a smart alec, but you don't have to be a handwriting expert to see the many similarities in Patsys writing and the RN. It's obvious. As you say, who in the world doesn't know their own writing?? I say John got away with murder, but one day he'll die and face God's judgement.
@@debbie9929the autopsy revealed that sa was going on for about 8 months by an adult males anatomy. The first detective in the house even mentioned how horrible(evidence of severe sa) the private area of JonBenet was. It wasn't Burke that's for sure....heartbreaking. 😢
It’s a sick situation. Patsy had vicarious control of JonBenet and the pageant showings. John led the investigation from the get go to fit the break in narrative. The ransom note was there to buy time and broaden the case for possible outside perpetrators. The interviews with John and Patsy are hard to watch because there’s no grief or guilt in their tone. The supposed ransom note alone should have nailed this case long ago… very sad.
@@DebraHarrison-b2x NOT TRUE. The grand jury indicted them, ALEX HUNTER refused to prosecute. It wasn't for murder but it was for neglect and child endangerment, so they knew something that has been kept under wraps by Alex Hunter.
I have NEVER seen a family that didn't cry over the loss of a sibling, child EVER. My friend is 91 and her son died of cepsis two years ago and today is his birthday and she was crying last night like you wouldn't believe and he was 71 when he died two years ago.WHAT does THAT tell you?????
Every time I talk about my daughter who passed away at 1st I can stay calm 2-3 questions I start to cry! The pain never goes away! Not ever! 😢😢😢😢😢😢 my daughter was ill for years she wasn't murdered! She passed away at the age of 31! 😢😢😢😢😢😢
Great analysis as always Nick. Innocent people do not lie and change their stories the way Ramseys have always done. That’s the biggest red flag for me other than the fact that John and Patsy did _nothing_ to even try to cooperate with law enforcement. Nothing to even try to help find the “real” killer. Say the police were just out to get them and have them wrongfully convicted. With their wealth they would have been protected from any such charges if they were truly innocent. Ironically, that same wealth shielded them from being rightfully convicted for JonBenet’s death. Whatever role they played in it, they know exactly what happened to JonBenet.
Yes..if you even talk to a dog she is beheaded...calls 911 a minute after seeing note but not reading all of it...calls friends and has a friend go to the bank....WTF?..
@@jamesBrian-lu4kj indeed. Never touches the note* There's a ransom note over there......I didn't finish reading it....John ....me neither. They scream.....ahhhh! 🤔😆
I can’t comprehend how they thought that ransom note was a good idea. They used a pad of paper from their home and left the rough draft- it’s ludicrous.
Patsy and John were both putting on their act. John isn't great at it, always shifting focus and licking his lips. Patsy went with the "best defense is a good offense" and simply ignored all the evidence pointing toward her, never answered or admitted ANYTHING and just went with the suber snob attitude to carry her through.
Patsy was most definitely a super snob. Above it all. Poor JonBenet. Her mother living her glory days through her little daughter. It gives me the creeps when I see pictures of that child in full adult make up and clothing. This was her mother’s doing. I guess we’re free to do that, but there is NO WAY I’d put my child thru all that, as if she were an adult, she wasn’t. She was just a very young kid who would have probably been happier riding her bike. God bless that poor baby 😢
The ransom note is the most ridiculous thing ever. It’s impossible to think they are innocent with that. I think handwriting experts are as reliable as polygraphs.
The fact that they left Burke in that massive house alone in his bedroom after knowing their daughter was murdered is very suspicious to me. I think Burke had a disagreement with his sister over the pineapple, hit her on the head and the parents covered it up...Regards from Ireland 🇮🇪
IT WAS NOT BURKE. See Cyril Wcht's analysis. The garrote and arm and leg bindings show bdsm fantasy gone wrong. Accidental death. The head wound was after death to try to camouflage and distract from the sex crime and stage as a fall or accident. There is absolutely no reason to take the time to create a garrote, which is fashioned to slowly tighten and loosen around the neck, except to satisfy a sadistic sexual fantasy. MEN COMMIT THESE CRIMES. Men have intense, secret sexual fantasies and lives. Men have sadistic kinks and strange fetishes. Men commit sexual abuse of children. Men commit incest. All it takes is Narcissistic Personality Disorder to cross these unthinkable boundaries. See Trump and Ivanka and Miss America Marilyn Van Derbur's abuse story to see that this depravity happens among the wealthy. Some say Edie Sedgwick as well. Mothers and prepubescent children do not commit these crimes. A man did it. Who was the man of the house?
I believe they sent him off to a friend’s house. That struck me as odd because I’m thinking a parent whose child was abducted and murdered wouldn’t want to send their other child away, away from them, while the abductor/ murderer is still at large. I might be totally wrong since I am not a parent but that part struck me as very odd.
What bothers me is this : 1 ) The " ransom note ", said We have your daughter. 2 ) The “ kidnappers”, had to know exactly where her bedroom was.How to get up there, how to get to the basement and which door led to the room with the broken window. They really had to know the entire house. You wouldn’t know where the bedroom was,just from looking at it from the outside. 3) If they got in by said window, they had to know even more about the layout of the house and how to get to her room, that was on the opposite end of the house. 4) No footsteps in the snow. 5) The kidnappers had plenty of time to try first to write one note, then write a 3 pages long essay. 6) A kidnapper ( or two), wouldn’t have left her body in the house, if the whole thing was about the ransom money. How many kidnapped children/adults, have been found dead after receiving the money. That throws the leverage out the window. 6) No phone call what so ever. 7) The parents filled the house with people. That was I my mind intentionally done. So many people would leave fingerprints,footprints and dna all over the place. 8 ) If they were so concerned about their son’s safety, they wouldn’t have stayed inside but had run to a neighbor, so even the slightest evidence would have been found. I think it was Burke. He was jealous, she got all the attention, she came down ate pineapple from his bowl, she wanted to play with his things, he got mad and hit her with the flashlight.
I would love for you to analyze what Fleet White said about how the Ramseys behaved after. I think he ended up thinking John acted oddly and thought they were likely guilty. And if there are other friends who spoke after the murder, would love to hear what they said too.
@@jgalaxi33 yes I would like to know what the Whites said. Someone knew something had happened at the party on the 23rd, it was serious enough to call emergency services, anyone who was at that part needs to speak up, it holds the key to what happened
I've heard what he said. It's not oceans 11. No one barrel rolled through a window with a pre-written mimicked ransom letter, did said things to a child, expecting 118000,killed a child, and left. SBTC: So Be The Case
The JonBenet Ramsey murder case has bothered me from the very start: too many discrepencies, strange coincidences, illogical explanations, irrational delays in calling the authorities, and way too many unrelated people traipsing through the house when and where only the police should have been allowed. Too bad Lieutenant Joe Kenda had already retired by then.
I still have a hard time understanding a young little girl wearing make up dressing up like she’s an adult …something weird about those child pageants. IMHO
@@caroleguest7915 -- I think there's something quite obscene about beauty pageants that have very young children parading and gesticulating on a stage like adult versions of themselves. Are these types of pageants traditional in specific parts of the world, or are they a 'Southern thing?' Patty Ramsey had been a beauty queen, so she might have been reliving her glory days through her young daughter.
I feel a big clue IS the fact that the Ramseys' fingerprints aren't on the note. Patsy must have worn gloves. Their retelling of how they avoided picking it up is just silly! Why would John spread it out on the floor for heaven's sake?? That's just awkward. A normal person, if it were a real ransom note, would be examining it closely, picking it up, putting it down, rereading it, etc. You're not going to be thinking about not leaving fingerprints and preserving the note in pristine condition so only the perp's fingerprints are on there! Gimme a break.
@BUGIDDLE, WHAT A CROC THAT WAS. THAT WAS JUST AN EXCUSE JOHN USED AS TO WHY HIS FINGERPRINTS WERE NOT ON THE RN. HE SAID HE GOT DOWN ON HIS HANDS AND KNEES TO READ THE RN UNDER A LIGHT. WHO THE HELL READS A RANSOM NOTE THAT WAY??
Their fingerprints should have been on it because it’s a pad of paper that came from their home. The ransom note is ridiculous, I can’t understand why anyone thought it was a good idea.
TOOO CALM, it almost sounds like they are both reciting some crime novel string of events, NOT what happened to their own daughter- sound VERY DETACHED from her.
Neither of them wanted anything to do with the note. They didn't read it all the way through, they didn't handle it, they don't know who may have authored it and they don't recall what the handwriting experts had to say about who authored it. Isn't that odd.
I think I have an explanation for this fact! But it takes place if the parents are absolutely innocent!The note has ceased to have any meaning for them since the discovery of their child's body! Therefore, they were angry and indignant and perplexed why she was given such importance instead of looking for murderers!
@@kubektrololo7837the note had already ceased to be of any importance before the body was found. How did they keep it in good shape? Why wasn't it already about worn out from reading for any clue?
John and Patsy absolutely knew. I still wonder about Burke. No family does that many weird things combined when a child is murdered in the home while everyone else "sleeps." IMO They were all doing dupers delight too ofter at inappropriate times. 😒
The Clincher for me was when Burke was asked what do you think happened?..he said “ I know what happened”….also , what parents wouldn’t …1. pick up the ransom note …2. Read it all the way through They both said neither of them did that!..
That give's anyone following this case the chill's I believe.He said it right off the top of his head-Said it as a matter of fact-that's disturbing for sure.
I will go to my grave believing the brother did this and Patsy covered this up so Burkes life wasn’t ruined. He had so much animosity towards his sister and did so much stuff to her like rubbing his chit on her Christmas candy a day or two prior to her death. He hated her and had issues.
Kids wipe their feces on things as a cry for help when they’re being SAed. I don’t think a 9 year old is powerful enough to do that damage. Something was going on in that house.
@@SJ-ni6iy Yes a child his age and size is capable of the injuries. There’s tests on UA-cam where they took kids his age and the boy I watched busted the replica skull with no problem. Wiping chit on Christmas candy, bedspread’s, and walls of his baby sister isn’t a cry for help it’s was a sign that he was a jealous weirdo that hated his sister’s guts. Burke can’t hold back his smile when talking about her murder as a child or as a grown man. Burke was and is a psycho.
@@latashahoward3943 if he’s a psycho, how did he finish college and grow up to hold a job? There’s never been any stories about him doing anything to anyone. A child wiping 💩 on stuff screams s- abuse not jealousy. Nothing you have said holds up in a court of law.
so creepy. the cops said he spent all his time on the phone making plane reservations on the day she died/they were there - he seemed just totally fine
So many illuminating questions/comments in your analysis. Awesome job. Thank you again, again especially for pointedly challenging nonsensical “conclusions” on record and for calling out click bait. Yes please do review the timeline and the Woodward piece with us.
This case looks like patsy, in fit of anger (most likely the bed wetting) ACCIDENTALLY killed or thought she killed her daughter then absolutely panicked. John, subsequently wound up for (whatever reason, covering up for his wife with the garrote etc.) Therefore staging the fake kidnapping scenario. There was no intruder. Burke didn't kill his sister. John didn't sexually abuse her, Santa didn't do it. The house keeper lady didn't do it .That creep Olivia didn't do it. That "I want attention" pedo J.M. Carr didn't do it. Ramseys didn't cover up for "someone else" and there was no stupid "small foreign faction" on the loose leaving behind that ridiculous ransom note. Patsy wrote it, hands down. That's why..Unless John Ramsey confesses on his deathbed (Via written note perhaps after death) we'll never see this solved because it won't be solved especially with one half of the guilty party already dead.
I hope that fucker atleast confesses, his evil wife took secret to the grave. Even Burke may know the truth, the parents might have slipped during personal time
When I first saw the note, it struck me that the writing looked like when I used to hold the pencil with my kids to help them learn to write. It’s like my writing, but not quite. It was bigger, more jagged looking for lack of a better way to explain it. I’m sure other parents understand what I mean.
So many strange things with this case. I read in book that the parents bathed the children in each of their bathrooms in master BR on 3rd floor when there bathrooms of their own on children’s 2nd floor. I find this odd. Also, many people had keys to house, including neighbors across street, the Whites, and the father-in-law lived in the area. Why would John Ramsey break into his own house, especially through that difficult window. He had money so he could have called a locksmith. If an intruder was in the house for hours, there should have been lots of evidence. Don’t think it could have been Santa with that long beard. I want to believe it wasn’t the parents, but it’s almost impossible. The mother always struck me as odd in her interviews. Would love to hear more on the interviews. Thanks.
@JaneDough847 Probably because it was more convenient to break the window than call a locksmith. There was abundant evidence of an intruder according to Judge Julie Carnes.
These are great points! Patsy looks annoyed that she’s being made to answer questions. They know nothing about what law enforcement is doing, yet feel the need to hire 5 other experts. She knows that law enforcement is going to find her a match because she knows she wrote it. There is no need to call them and ask if it matched. What she needs is to go through 5 of their own experts to get the answer they want. I think if Lou Schmidt wouldn’t have concluded that the killer came through the basement window, they would have replaced him with other private investigators that could give them what they wanted to hear. When you are innocent you know every aspect of what’s going on and are willing to freely talk about anything. If you’re guilty you know if you talk too much, something may get revealed that you don’t want.
THAT ONE line that the son /brother says, to me says it ALL: I guess I will just go on with my life.... WHAT nine year old would say that mature phrase when his sister is brutally murdered?I would be crying hysterically at that age if my older brother was murdered! No nine year old in a regular family would say that- and WHY did he say that??????? TELLING: she is in the PAST now, for him. he is FREE of her, of her shadow, of her talent,of her stage presence, of her attention on her, ALL of it! OH my God, that phrase gave me the CREEPS! WHY do the parents not verify the pineapple? I think he got in a fight over pineapple struck her maybe didn't know he killed her, the parents found out and had to 'cover it up to sve the son's future. it is the only thing that fits EXCEPT the in known DNA on her. THAT is the only other scenario.
I read that JB was sent to ER like 30 times from Burke striking her, even with a gold club. The weapon? Many say the black flashlight in the kitchen photo, it is big, heavy, and its shape matched the wound. It seemed very Burke. He was smearing feces all over her room, terrible sibling abuse.
Excellent points. I agree that BR is the most likely culprit. At nine, I fought constantly with my little brother, but if anything had ever happened to him-well, to be honest, I couldn’t even have imagined that at that age. We were so safe and sheltered. I think I would have been out of my mind, not just for him but for my parents, who would be hysterical. Any ordinary child would be overcome with emotion of some kind, even if it’s shock. There was NOTHING normal about Burke Ramsay. He was smearing his you-know-what on JonBenet’s bedroom walls and Christmas presents. That is not sibling fighting. That is next-level sadism and extreme disturbance. That can’t be overstated. So much was wrong in that household. JonBenet was born into a deeply disturbed family and she was failed by so many people around her.
Feels like authorities had plenty of reasons to keep scrutinizing this family as prime suspects. Heaven know there was no shortage of evidence. Almost mind boggling that there wasn't more follow up. How many clues do you need? The only question for me is; which one of them did it. They certainly were all in on the coverup and it almost feels like the DA was paid off to back off.
Hard to believe a foreign faction decides to organize in Boulder Colorado. And why would killers respect his business, lovingly wrap her in her favorite yet brutally kill her? Why didn't the ransom letter match the crime? Why would JR try untie her arms & not the cord around her neck?
I can't begin to guess what may have happened because it's too sick for me, but the parents certainly do. They go on TV interviews and make a fortune off of their dead daughter is truly disgusting. Their smug and arrogant demeanor is irritating. Some people say everyone grieves differently, BS. If this was some kind of accident and the parents are covering it up I can believe that but normal people would still tear up at least and become emotional to some extent, however to constantly go on TV and show no emotion at all is evil and psychotic. They look like they are enjoying the fame like some sort of movie star, that's not normal. Also they are all about defending themselves and not putting effort into finding who supposedly killed their daughter. This was an awful case and it's sad that they got away with this fabricated story.
Also year after year they were only concerned about clearing their name and not finding out who killed their daughter and why!! If you were innocent from the moment this happened you wouldn’t care if ppl thought you had something to do with it you would tell the detectives , ok what do you need from me so you can rule me out because I want who did this found.
I don't know why Mr. & Mrs. Ramsey would repeatedly agree to interviews other than to "throw stuff into the game." They did not need to do this to keep the case in the public eye. It is bizarre that there is no touch DNA on pages from a pad that "lived" in that house.
The strange ransom letter alone is enough for me to know something is not right here we are being misled. I doubt very much that was a genuine ransom letter . Great coverage TCRS.
The note was in Patsy's handwriting. The fur on JonBenet was from Patsy's coat. Although it's possible that Burke killed his sister and Patsy covered it up, it is more likely that soneone psychotic enough to write the note actually murdered her daughter. I've watched that behavior panel. They are absolutely terrible at identifying when people are lying.
Jon wrote the note and copied Patsy’s writing. The whole thing was Jon. How else was the previous sexual scarring there. Think about it. The Gardner said he never remembered that window being broken. Jon broke the window. Set it up to “scream” intruder. Jon answers all the clues that exist. I do not know if Patsy even knew Jon was involved! He is a slick one. Jon fooled everyone! I assume Jon was getting close to being found out. Jon Bennet’ may have gotten fed up and said she was going to tell on him. My own Dad was a long- term Pastor and counseled 100’s. People you would never expect to do bad, had done some terrible things. Believe me. I was shocked at things I saw happen. Linda Arndt was right. It was figured out on day one. Jon escaped all of it. I am a wise 70 year old, and I believe I am right. If Jon did not do it, why the previous abuse confirmed by 3 pathologists? I have a way that was given in my heart that told me the truth. I am not shallow believing Jon did it. He has everyone fooled and he is very smart and cool!
Weird if he duped his own wife on this. There was an award winning journalist who Nat'l Enq. (I know, I know) paid to go out there and stay until the case was solved. They had her pic on every cover, somewhere for a long time. That guy interviewed teachers of JB who said she complained about the dad. Sadly, the journalist, I think his name was Alexander, was found dead in his hotel room in Boulder.
@@RawOlympiaWow, I have never heard of this! About a journalist being found dead. I did hear that JB was speaking to a counselor at school, but not sure if it was confirmed what she was telling him/her.
This in-depth work was intricately detailed with observations and analyses that bring more clarity to this case than even detectives/police I believe have missed. Watched it twice it was so interesting. Thank you.
I noticed that John Ramsey stated that they were to, "rendezvous " with their older children to have a Christmas all together, when explaining where they were supposed to go that morning. It makes me think about the word attaché in the ransom letter. PS Excellent content, I'm a new subscriber. 🎉
And himself. If Burke didn't do it, his parents were willing to let him go thru life with suspicion hanging over him. They must know more than they were telling.
I just heard that John Ramsey left his house a few minutes after the phone call for the ransom note. He was gone for a hour!!?? He also called his pilot to tell him they want to leave and fly to Atlanta?? What is going on with these people?
HE TOLD THE BPD HE HAD AN IMPORTANT MEETING HE HAD TO ATTEND IN GEORGIA. IS HE FOR REAL? WHO WOULD EVEN THINK OF ATTENDING A MEETING THE DAY YOUR DAUGHTER WAS FOUND DEAD IN YOUR HOME. YOU GAVE YOUR GUILT AWAY JOHN WITH THAT ONE!!!!!!! THE BPD KNEW IT WAS THEM RIGHT FROM THE VERY BEGINNING. THAT IS WHY JOHN RAMSEY CRITICIZED THE BPD EVERY CHANCE HE HAD.
@@freddie3206 He never told anyone he had an important meeting in Georgia. He wanted to fly to Atlanta because they considered it their home and their family was there. They wanted to be with family for comfort and emotional support. Also they thought they would be safer there. Police told them they couldn't leave so they stayed with friends.
Neither John or Patsy ever really cried in grief over Death of their daughter. Never showed anger for whomever did this horrible disgraceful offense to their daughter. Always collected and cal and how could one be if they truly had no idea who did this . I’d be out of my mind angry, desperate in finding the responsible party who did this to their flesh and blood .
This whole thing creeps me out so much. Just the vibes coming off these two... I think Father is a creepy SA abuser, but maybe he didn't 'M' her, but he knows who did.
A summary.... John's original plan was to fly Burke and Patsy to their other house then fly back to get rid of her little body. No police....but Patsy only read we have kidnapped your daughter and she did what mothers do ran to find her child crying my baby my baby. Patsy called police. John wrongly assumed Patsy had read 3 pages but she didn't. John's plan changed to messing up the crime scene. John told Patsy to ring their friends to come round. Everyone touched his note. Burke and Patsy never had knowledge...
The ransom note was obviously written by a woman for far more reasons than were listed in this video. A man couldn't have written something this dumb with a gun held to his head. And by saying that, I mean no insult to women. I'm thinking more like when Mark Twain told his wife, who had started cussing at him, "honey, you know the words, but you don't know the tune."
John plays dumb to the point of actually being comical its so transparent .... one certainly doesn't need to be Sherlock Holmes to identify this families involvement... only question for me is; why did the authorities back off so easily in the face of all these obvious high percentage clues of involvement?
There’s an interview 20 years after with a lead detective. He states they were being handcuffed from the start. Couldn’t process evidence or get warrants. The DA was protecting the Ramseys all along. John was a big supporter and donated money. Even after the decision from grand jury to indict the DA threw it away.
Patsy was very well presented in all the pics going back years: well groomed, nice clothes, neat and tidy. So what the heck was going on in that home? They had a housekeeper, but it was filthy and disorganised with junk worthy of a hoarder. Not just the basement, living room and jb bedroom. Look at the pics of the kitchen work surfaces and table. That kind of crap doesn’t accumulate in 24hrs. It looks insanitary. So what was the underlying psychodynamic going on in that home?
Also, regarding the handwriting rebuttal, not once does Patsy acknowledge that the parents will always be the first to be investigated, so coming off as defensive, or rather being defensive, shows some shade of guilt. She had no idea her handwriting was sent to the FBI, and how dare they without first asking her. (That was sarcasm).
So, John Ramsey is trying to distance himself from having the ability to handle ropes and knots? He also, mentions the window and glass as though it were a discovery, only later to state that he had previously broken the window? And, yes, he absolutely preceeds through his statement from the perspective of the intruder/killer. He seems to be going through what he did when he "found" her in the order of what happened with the last thing he did being the first thing he says. I dont know if he killed his daughter; but it sure seems like he is the one who tied her up in the basement. Jesus. What kind of cold-hearted bastard could do that, for any reason?
Jon Benet..is in Heaven !…and Patsy is paying for her sins now…! John and Burke will pay in God’s time for what they have done!..I’m so sorry Jon Benet for what you went through that fateful night and maybe many more before!..
1. The window always baffled me. How is it that the window wasn't fixed asap with children in the house after John claimed to have broken it the summer before? Fleet in the movie seemed to acknowledge the window right away. Unless he wanted to confront John about it. I didn't know John said he went in the basement around 10 am that morning. I think he broke that window and left it open to stage the breakin theory. (Or Fleet) I also believe John already knew JonBenet was in that basement at that time. Probably the reasonn he went straight to John Benet. If someone was trying to escape through that particular window, why use a suitcase instead of a chair? An adult would think to use a chair. A child...well. Why the suitcase was there in front of the window with a children's book and a blanket inside of it? Looks like someone did attempt in a childish way try to escape in a panic but gave up on the idea 2. I don't understand why the detective didnt try to find a way to open the door to the room JonBenet was found in. Doesn't make sense because if this case was a drug raid, they would've broken down that door. How is it John didn't know JonBenet was dead? Her body was stiff as a board when he lifted her up off of the floor. The knots in the cord being hard to loosen is bogus because it was loosened on top of her sleeves. 3. I definitely think Patsy wrote that note. The evidence doesnt point to anyone else unless the housekeeper wrote it. The housekeeper had a pad from the Ramsey's home as well. (I dont think thats the case though) 4. There is no way JonBenet and Burke was asleep in their beds because if that was the case, JonBenet's sweater she wore that night wouldn't be on the edge of the bed. Someone had to have changed her clothes in order for her to be in the long johns when she was found. Burke was not sleep the entire time on the day Patsy was supposed to have found the ransom note. 5. I think the "DNA" was planted on JonBenet 6. I think one of the officers helped cover up the crime scene. Maybe the same one that didn't open the door to the seller. 7. I think someone killed Michael and planted evidence to fit the scene (They may even have persuaded him to help cover up the scene...blackmail) because he was a great fall guy. He was a known criminal that had access to the home. 8. Answer this, why is it the Ramseys backstabb the Whites. What happened between them? Sometimes when a team work together to either cover up or do a crime, they start pointing fingers at one another. 9. JonBenet didn't die on the 25th because the neighbor heard her scream around 1am on the 26th. How is it no one in the house heard the scream but the neighbor did? 10. I also think that John's job has something to do with this situation because of the $118,000. There was a "misunderstanding" about that bonus. I think John may have stolen that money from that previous employer. Otherwise, why would that bonus be so significant. 11. I think Patsy was upset with John about something because of the way she looked at him sometimes. 12. Who ever did kill JonBenet was in the house while Detective Arnt was in the house. She was afraid for her life. 13. Who ever made that "garotte" made it in that house. Someone was referring to the Boy Scout book that was on the basement floor. I also think the marks on JonBenet came from one of the train track parts from the train room. JonBenet couldve been killed in that room. 14. I think there is a strong indication that Burke could have been involved. "Were not speaking with you". The way they did everything in their power to protect him. The interview he had with the psychiatrists shows that Burke knew beforehand about the bowl of pineapple. He even gave an indication of how JonBenet was snuck down into the basement and hit in the head.
@IAMTHATIAM1618, tHERE WAS A CHAIR IN THAT SAME ROOM WITH THE BROKEN WINDOW, SO YOU ARE RIGHT, WHY NOT USE A CHAIR. THERE WAS NO INTRUDER ANYWAY. THIS WAS AN INSIDE JOB FOR SURE.
The housekeepers husband was asked to fix the window around Thanksgiving, and he didnt do it. The housekeepers sons handwriting matched the ransom letter more than Patsys did.
Burke must have used that big ole flashlight to clobber his sister over the head. The flashlight was wiped clean of prints and so were the batteries. They would have called 911 for their daughter, but JBR had been s/a also. That on top of the head clobber, they couldn't take the chance of losing burke. So the dad staged the scene.
I heard John on Dr. Phil say the talked to police for several hours at the beginning until their friend told them that police were starting to suspect them. Then they lawyered up.
Thank you for your hard work on producing these videos. Broken glass on TOP OF THE SUITCASE, undisturbed spider web in the window opening, the garrote made with PATSY'S PAINT BRUSH and the family DOG does NOT bark once, Solves the case for me.
I am just starting to watch and I have always felt it was done by someone in that house….too many things that point to someone familiar with the family and home
My husband is a paramedic and all parents who find their children deceased always panic and try to revive them/ scream and beg for their paramedics to help them even when they’re clearly gone.
Absolutely... And the fact he told that he had a feeling of "happiness" when he discovered her makes absolutely no sense... What one could feel discovering his supposed "abducted" child is in fact lying on the ground in a dark room in your own basement just cannot be "happiness", or relief, as if, for exemple, you were anxiously searching her for a while and finally found her playing in the basement... This has no sense to feel "happy" before you even made sure she's alive and well, especially if she doesn't seem so at all...
@@abrakadabraa7787I agree, it's such a bizarre thing to say. Like someone with abnormal emotions trying so hard to appear normal they miss the mark and stick out.
I was a PM 40 years ago. I recall parents being physically restrained so we could work on the child. Even a simple broken bone would cause major drama. Listen to the 911 calls now available. People who have murd3r3d their own children tend to be calm. Or fake hysterics. In this situation, money talks....loudly. Sad
Yes, innocent parents do not accept the death, even it is obvious!
"Acceptance of victim's death" is actually one of the check boxes the FBI use to determine a guilty 911 caller (one involved in the death of the victim.) Innocent people will usually be in denial of the death, or simply uncertain.
This case shows how a lot of money and a lot of connections can completely jam up the wheels of justice.
& w/all that wealth no one had security cameras?!
Just like Joe big guy Biden
It certainly does. I was thinking the same thing about the security cameras or lack thereof.
The police are entirely to blame for it, imo. They didn't search the house properly. Didn't secure the house. Allowed half the neighborhood to roam the house at will. Allowed John and friend to search the house later. Allowed the body to be contaminated by being covered with two different items. Etc.
@@vicksta8875no one ever said anything about them. Same in oj case. The quality wouldn't b as good. It just seemed strange. In upscale places ppl had them.
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The Ramseys didn't act like parents who just unexpectedly lost their golden child in such a brutal and tragic way. They always had a calmness and coldness to them because mentally they were at peace with JBs death, they knew what happened. They weren't sick to their core and asking "why."
And they are defensive.
I feel nothing when they talk. Whereas a parent showing true emotion would make me sob.
Perfectly said. I agree; in some clips you can see them smiling and laughing- it was disgusting. TO compare, I saw a poor lady in her 80's whose son disappeard in the 1940's ( this was on Unsolved Mysteries in 1986) and she as cryinig and crying and her son's abduction happened 52 yers before that interview and she was still crying after all those years. She wasn't smiling or lauging or defending herself constantly. You can sense when someone is sincere....
burke told the shrink he wasn't scared, and this was just weeks after she was murdered. not concerned about a killer in the loose at all. i was shocked. he even said he was ready to move on!
Just like Maddie McCann 's parents.
Ritual child sacrifice. Parents passed the test.
@@regbarnard2866well, I think they parents covered for Burke in this case. With Maddie I think her mother overdosed her accidentally because god forbid should she not get to go out to dinner that night. The little girl died and they panicked. Those two parents I HATE. The Ramsey’s I feel we’re just trying to protect their remaining child
What bothers me most is that John Ramsey shows absolutely no sadness or grief in his interviews, whereas Patsy, at least in the beginning, was grief-stricken. He even shows duper's delight in at least one interview. The whole matter is disgraceful. Their money and influence got them off the hook.
Did you hear anything in this video? John was, and is not a suspect.
@@kellyjacquin715 I've heard it all multiple times. Just because some person determined he's not a suspect doesn't cut it with me.
@keepitsimple4629, I always believed John Ramsey was lying in all his videos. I never believed JonBenet was put to bed as soon as they got home. I don't believe The Ramseys did not know the secret service examined the RN. There was not some similarities in the RN of Patsy's handwriting. There were many. Cena Wong was a handwriting expert and she said Patsy definitely wrote that RN. I don't believe the Ramseys put the white blanket over JonBenet to keep her body temperature from getting colder to make it look like she died sooner than later. They were not doctors to know something like this. This was a gesture that somebody close to her killed her. Who does not know their own handwriting. Keep lying Patsy.
@@freddie3206 Not being a smart alec, but you don't have to be a handwriting expert to see the many similarities in Patsys writing and the RN. It's obvious. As you say, who in the world doesn't know their own writing?? I say John got away with murder, but one day he'll die and face God's judgement.
@@keepitsimple4629 maybe you should listen to one!
JonBenets autopsy showed signs of chronic sexual abuse. So how on earth can you say John is not a suspect. In my mind he is THE suspect
Where did you hear that?
@@debbie9929It's in the autopsy report; Cyril Wecht also analyzed the autopsy report.
@@Bugiddle I had no idea about that. Why wasn't that all over the news? That's a big deal
Well the mother is the one who dressed her up like a 5 year old you know what, so they’re both guilty
@@debbie9929the autopsy revealed that sa was going on for about 8 months by an adult males anatomy. The first detective in the house even mentioned how horrible(evidence of severe sa) the private area of JonBenet was. It wasn't Burke that's for sure....heartbreaking. 😢
It’s a sick situation. Patsy had vicarious control of JonBenet and the pageant showings. John led the investigation from the get go to fit the break in narrative. The ransom note was there to buy time and broaden the case for possible outside perpetrators. The interviews with John and Patsy are hard to watch because there’s no grief or guilt in their tone. The supposed ransom note alone should have nailed this case long ago… very sad.
So many people allowed in the house which was a crime scene.
charles, true, how true! No justice there.
Yes spot on. But it could still be solved one day
Agreed. They smugly smirk at the camera. And dare us to prove their guilt. What can be made of that?
@@dennistrull1475 Well JonBenet went to heaven; I doubt if Patsy did.
The phony ransom note is enough. The practice note on the notepad is enough.
Exactly case closed.
For a rich family with a housekeeper, some of those rooms are filthy!
She’s a terrible housekeeper
They were total unorganized slobs...look at that basement it's filthy..
Patsy bobbing her head around and smiling like slick willie ~ these parents are grotesque. They left town before even being formally interviewed!
BASTA**S!!!!!
It’s sickening that these parents haven’t been prosecuted YET
Mom died of cancer years ago.
@@vicksta8875 Alex Hunter said there was insufficient evidence to charge anyone.
THE END.
Blame D.A. Alex Hunter!
@@DebraHarrison-b2x NOT TRUE. The grand jury indicted them, ALEX HUNTER refused to prosecute. It wasn't for murder but it was for neglect and child endangerment, so they knew something that has been kept under wraps by Alex Hunter.
I think its absurd to rule John out
He helped by setting up the crime scene. Such sociopaths !!
I have NEVER seen a family that didn't cry over the loss of a sibling, child EVER. My friend is 91 and her son died of cepsis two years ago and today is his birthday and she was crying last night like you wouldn't believe and he was 71 when he died two years ago.WHAT does THAT tell you?????
@larrywakeman4371 It tells me we are all different.
Some of us are emotional whilst some of us are not.
@@DebraHarrison-b2xit tells me some people have no conscience and are NOT going to jail for the rest of their lives.
@@larrywakeman4371 You did now, unfortunately‼️
Every time I talk about my daughter who passed away at 1st I can stay calm 2-3 questions I start to cry! The pain never goes away! Not ever! 😢😢😢😢😢😢 my daughter was ill for years she wasn't murdered! She passed away at the age of 31! 😢😢😢😢😢😢
You brought up the best question ever, why would the Ramsey hire their own handwritting exsperts???
I don’t have a lot of faith in handwriting experts, it seems to be as reliable as polygraph tests.
No one touches ransom note, but Jon touches the duct tape & rope?🤷♀️
Remember when Patsy said how she saw the notes on the stairs that morning
Great analysis as always Nick.
Innocent people do not lie and change their stories the way Ramseys have always done. That’s the biggest red flag for me other than the fact that John and Patsy did _nothing_ to even try to cooperate with law enforcement. Nothing to even try to help find the “real” killer.
Say the police were just out to get them and have them wrongfully convicted. With their wealth they would have been protected from any such charges if they were truly innocent.
Ironically, that same wealth shielded them from being rightfully convicted for JonBenet’s death.
Whatever role they played in it, they know exactly what happened to JonBenet.
"If you call the police...she dies."
"Hello police...."😂😂😂
I KNOW RIGHT!
Yes..if you even talk to a dog she is beheaded...calls 911 a minute after seeing note but not reading all of it...calls friends and has a friend go to the bank....WTF?..
@@jamesBrian-lu4kj indeed. Never touches the note*
There's a ransom note over there......I didn't finish reading it....John ....me neither. They scream.....ahhhh! 🤔😆
@@johnnynobuddy1 that note is a major key to the case yet somehow the window in basement gets all the attention..
@@jamesBrian-lu4kj agreed
The time for the kidnapper to call had come and gone and neither parents noticed that fact or even commented on it.very strange
THIS!! There’s so many things that prove they weren’t even keeping up with their own narrative on day one!!!!
Who wouldn't pick up the ransom note? Extremely strange.
One would pick it up realize quickly what it was saying and run with it to the other parent....immediately.
Big, fancy house. The basement looks like a hell-hole......
The whole house looks like a Hellhole. Who lives like that?? Chaotic house, chaotic life?
And they had a housekeeper.
Ramsey’s hired 5 writing experts to get the answer they wanted
And why would they feel the need to even hire one???
I can’t comprehend how they thought that ransom note was a good idea. They used a pad of paper from their home and left the rough draft- it’s ludicrous.
You know why Patsy didn’t read the coroners report? She knows how JonBenet died.
Patsy and John were both putting on their act. John isn't great at it, always shifting focus and licking his lips. Patsy went with the "best defense is a good offense" and simply ignored all the evidence pointing toward her, never answered or admitted ANYTHING and just went with the suber snob attitude to carry her through.
CORRECT!!!
, the face is impenetrable, and the head is tilted backwards hastily. Just a mask in motion. Easily lying.
Patsy was most definitely a super snob. Above it all. Poor JonBenet. Her mother living her glory days through her little daughter. It gives me the creeps when I see pictures of that child in full adult make up and clothing. This was her mother’s doing. I guess we’re free to do that, but there is NO WAY I’d put my child thru all that, as if she were an adult, she wasn’t. She was just a very young kid who would have probably been happier riding her bike. God bless that poor baby 😢
You'd need a handwriting expert to prove Patsy didn't write the note, not that she did write it. That's how similar the handwriting is.
In another video it was said Patsy was ambidextrous, so if that's true and they didn't know this and they only had her write with one hand....
The ransom note is the most ridiculous thing ever. It’s impossible to think they are innocent with that. I think handwriting experts are as reliable as polygraphs.
The fact that they left Burke in that massive house alone in his bedroom after knowing their daughter was murdered is very suspicious to me. I think Burke had a disagreement with his sister over the pineapple, hit her on the head and the parents covered it up...Regards from Ireland 🇮🇪
I have often thought it was him.A lot of people do I think.
I don’t know of any time Burke Ramsey was left alone in the Ramsey house. Where did you get that?
IT WAS NOT BURKE. See Cyril Wcht's analysis. The garrote and arm and leg bindings show bdsm fantasy gone wrong. Accidental death. The head wound was after death to try to camouflage and distract from the sex crime and stage as a fall or accident. There is absolutely no reason to take the time to create a garrote, which is fashioned to slowly tighten and loosen around the neck, except to satisfy a sadistic sexual fantasy. MEN COMMIT THESE CRIMES. Men have intense, secret sexual fantasies and lives. Men have sadistic kinks and strange fetishes. Men commit sexual abuse of children. Men commit incest. All it takes is Narcissistic Personality Disorder to cross these unthinkable boundaries. See Trump and Ivanka and Miss America Marilyn Van Derbur's abuse story to see that this depravity happens among the wealthy. Some say Edie Sedgwick as well. Mothers and prepubescent children do not commit these crimes. A man did it. Who was the man of the house?
I believe they sent him off to a friend’s house. That struck me as odd because I’m thinking a parent whose child was abducted and murdered wouldn’t want to send their other child away, away from them, while the abductor/ murderer is still at large. I might be totally wrong since I am not a parent but that part struck me as very odd.
Totally agree
What bothers me is this : 1 ) The " ransom note ", said We have your daughter.
2 ) The “ kidnappers”, had to know exactly where her bedroom was.How to get up there, how to get to the basement and which door led to the room with the broken window. They really had to know the entire house. You wouldn’t know where the bedroom was,just from looking at it from the outside.
3) If they got in by said window, they had to know even more about the layout of the house and how to get to her room, that was on the opposite end of the house.
4) No footsteps in the snow.
5) The kidnappers had plenty of time to try first to write one note, then write a 3 pages long essay.
6) A kidnapper ( or two), wouldn’t have left her body in the house, if the whole thing was about the ransom money. How many kidnapped children/adults, have been found dead after receiving the money. That throws the leverage out the window.
6) No phone call what so ever.
7) The parents filled the house with people. That was I my mind intentionally done. So many people would leave fingerprints,footprints and dna all over the place.
8 ) If they were so concerned about their son’s safety, they wouldn’t have stayed inside but had run to a neighbor, so even the slightest evidence would have been found.
I think it was Burke. He was jealous, she got all the attention, she came down ate pineapple from his bowl, she wanted to play with his things, he got mad and hit her with the flashlight.
They sure are a smiley bunch during such a sad time of losing their little girl !
thank you. unconscionable, she just eats up the attention
@@RawOlympia I THINK JOHN AND PATSY ENJOYED BEING FAMOUS AFTER THIS CRIME.
@@freddie3206 Yeah, they wouldn't go to the police station but they marched onto Oprah! I think you are right, indeed. That poor child.
It's the way she died too, its something you couldn't get over.
@@RawOlympia Since when were they ever on Oprah?.
I would love for you to analyze what Fleet White said about how the Ramseys behaved after. I think he ended up thinking John acted oddly and thought they were likely guilty. And if there are other friends who spoke after the murder, would love to hear what they said too.
Most were paid off to avoid libel. Fleet was there and saw something that didn't make sense...
@@jgalaxi33 yes I would like to know what the Whites said. Someone knew something had happened at the party on the 23rd, it was serious enough to call emergency services, anyone who was at that part needs to speak up, it holds the key to what happened
I've heard what he said. It's not oceans 11. No one barrel rolled through a window with a pre-written mimicked ransom letter, did said things to a child, expecting 118000,killed a child, and left. SBTC: So Be The Case
Do you know what he saw?
The JonBenet Ramsey murder case has bothered me from the very start: too many discrepencies, strange coincidences, illogical explanations, irrational delays in calling the authorities, and way too many unrelated people traipsing through the house when and where only the police should have been allowed. Too bad Lieutenant Joe Kenda had already retired by then.
I still have a hard time understanding a young little girl wearing make up dressing up like she’s an adult …something weird about those child pageants. IMHO
@@caroleguest7915 --
I think there's something quite obscene about beauty pageants that have very young children parading and gesticulating on a stage like adult versions of themselves. Are these types of pageants traditional in specific parts of the world, or are they a 'Southern thing?' Patty Ramsey had been a beauty queen, so she might have been reliving her glory days through her young daughter.
JOE KENDA BELIEVES PATSY KILLED JONBENET
@@franceskajacobs2766 WHO IS JOE KENDA?
@@freddie3206 retired police Detective
Rich people will cover their tracks oftentimes to hide their shame even if from an accident.
Yes, please do the interview analysis! I'd be very keen to hear it. The case has always interested me and I hope Jon Bennette can have justice ❤
JonBenet
Your videos are Top Notch! ❤
I appreciate the hard work you put in them. Keep up the great work 🎉
I think Burke hit her on the head with something that crushed her skull, and the parents covered it up.
I feel a big clue IS the fact that the Ramseys' fingerprints aren't on the note. Patsy must have worn gloves. Their retelling of how they avoided picking it up is just silly! Why would John spread it out on the floor for heaven's sake?? That's just awkward. A normal person, if it were a real ransom note, would be examining it closely, picking it up, putting it down, rereading it, etc. You're not going to be thinking about not leaving fingerprints and preserving the note in pristine condition so only the perp's fingerprints are on there! Gimme a break.
@BUGIDDLE, WHAT A CROC THAT WAS. THAT WAS JUST AN EXCUSE JOHN USED AS TO WHY HIS FINGERPRINTS WERE NOT ON THE RN. HE SAID HE GOT DOWN ON HIS HANDS AND KNEES TO READ THE RN UNDER A LIGHT. WHO THE HELL READS A RANSOM NOTE THAT WAY??
Exactly.
@@freddie3206Who reads anything like that?! Conspicuous lack of fingerprints from both of them.
Their fingerprints should have been on it because it’s a pad of paper that came from their home. The ransom note is ridiculous, I can’t understand why anyone thought it was a good idea.
You could tell her unhappiness as she got older in her beauty pageants pictures through her eyes.
I never noticed she looked unhappy.
John ramsay is so cold he gives me the creeps
Wealthy businessmen are often cold, they become successful by their ability to detach themselves
My theory is Burke did it; Patsy covered it up and John went along with it.
@MATTRISHTON, I DO AS WELL.
Same
I'm in full agreement.
I always felt there was something very off about the mother. I believe she had a lot to do with her daughters death.
Yeah. Society knows but doesn’t like to discuss parental jealousy
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@@arturoolivares3381sorry Arturo. You have to spell it out. What does Fort Collins have to do with it?
@@arturoolivares3381yes she was, just look at her! Identical!
TOOO CALM, it almost sounds like they are both reciting some crime novel string of events, NOT what happened to their own daughter- sound VERY DETACHED from her.
Neither of them wanted anything to do with the note. They didn't read it all the way through, they didn't handle it, they don't know who may have authored it and they don't recall what the handwriting experts had to say about who authored it. Isn't that odd.
I think I have an explanation for this fact! But it takes place if the parents are absolutely innocent!The note has ceased to have any meaning for them since the discovery of their child's body! Therefore, they were angry and indignant and perplexed why she was given such importance instead of looking for murderers!
@@kubektrololo7837the note had already ceased to be of any importance before the body was found. How did they keep it in good shape? Why wasn't it already about worn out from reading for any clue?
John and Patsy absolutely knew. I still wonder about Burke. No family does that many weird things combined when a child is murdered in the home while everyone else "sleeps." IMO They were all doing dupers delight too ofter at inappropriate times. 😒
The Clincher for me was when Burke was asked what do you think happened?..he said “ I know what happened”….also , what parents wouldn’t …1. pick up the ransom note …2. Read it all the way through
They both said neither of them did that!..
That give's anyone following this case the chill's I believe.He said it right off the top of his head-Said it as a matter of fact-that's disturbing for sure.
I vaguely remember Linda Arendt (sp?) saying he sat alone, reading it over and over.
I thought the panel of four was a weak interpretation of the details, and I didn’t get much from it. This coverage is solid
I will go to my grave believing the brother did this and Patsy covered this up so Burkes life wasn’t ruined. He had so much animosity towards his sister and did so much stuff to her like rubbing his chit on her Christmas candy a day or two prior to her death. He hated her and had issues.
I agree with you.
She was going to protect them even in death, wow.
Kids wipe their feces on things as a cry for help when they’re being SAed. I don’t think a 9 year old is powerful enough to do that damage. Something was going on in that house.
@@SJ-ni6iy Yes a child his age and size is capable of the injuries. There’s tests on UA-cam where they took kids his age and the boy I watched busted the replica skull with no problem. Wiping chit on Christmas candy, bedspread’s, and walls of his baby sister isn’t a cry for help it’s was a sign that he was a jealous weirdo that hated his sister’s guts. Burke can’t hold back his smile when talking about her murder as a child or as a grown man. Burke was and is a psycho.
@@latashahoward3943 if he’s a psycho, how did he finish college and grow up to hold a job? There’s never been any stories about him doing anything to anyone. A child wiping 💩 on stuff screams s- abuse not jealousy. Nothing you have said holds up in a court of law.
John is always laughing or smiling. I don’t see anything funny.
so creepy. the cops said he spent all his time on the phone making plane reservations on the day she died/they were there - he seemed just totally fine
So many illuminating questions/comments in your analysis. Awesome job. Thank you again, again especially for pointedly challenging nonsensical “conclusions” on record and for calling out click bait. Yes please do review the timeline and the Woodward piece with us.
Speaking of quoting movies. In one of Patsy's Christmas letters, she states..All work and no play makes John a dull boy. (The Shining) Here's Johnny.
@dennistrull1475 All work and no play makes Jack a dull boy was also in James Howell's Proverbs 1659.
@@DebraHarrison-b2x odd how Patsy was known to quote tho
That Christmas letter was so over the top for me. It screamed LOOK AT OUR PERFECT LIVES. ugh.
This case looks like patsy, in fit of anger (most likely the bed wetting) ACCIDENTALLY killed or thought she killed her daughter then absolutely panicked. John, subsequently wound up for (whatever reason, covering up for his wife with the garrote etc.) Therefore staging the fake kidnapping scenario. There was no intruder. Burke didn't kill his sister. John didn't sexually abuse her, Santa didn't do it. The house keeper lady didn't do it .That creep Olivia didn't do it. That "I want attention" pedo J.M. Carr didn't do it. Ramseys didn't cover up for "someone else" and there was no stupid "small foreign faction" on the loose leaving behind that ridiculous ransom note. Patsy wrote it, hands down. That's why..Unless John Ramsey confesses on his deathbed (Via written note perhaps after death) we'll never see this solved because it won't be solved especially with one half of the guilty party already dead.
I hope that fucker atleast confesses, his evil wife took secret to the grave. Even Burke may know the truth, the parents might have slipped during personal time
When I first saw the note, it struck me that the writing looked like when I used to hold the pencil with my kids to help them learn to write. It’s like my writing, but not quite. It was bigger, more jagged looking for lack of a better way to explain it. I’m sure other parents understand what I mean.
Domestic child cruelty.
So many strange things with this case. I read in book that the parents bathed the children in each of their bathrooms in master BR on 3rd floor when there bathrooms of their own on children’s 2nd floor. I find this odd. Also, many people had keys to house, including neighbors across street, the Whites, and the father-in-law lived in the area. Why would John Ramsey break into his own house, especially through that difficult window. He had money so he could have called a locksmith. If an intruder was in the house for hours, there should have been lots of evidence. Don’t think it could have been Santa with that long beard. I want to believe it wasn’t the parents, but it’s almost impossible. The mother always struck me as odd in her interviews. Would love to hear more on the interviews. Thanks.
@JaneDough847 Probably because it was more convenient to break the window than call a locksmith.
There was abundant evidence of an intruder according to Judge Julie Carnes.
How can one NOT suspect the Ramseys?? That whole crime scene just doesn't smell right.
Money and connections
These are great points! Patsy looks annoyed that she’s being made to answer questions. They know nothing about what law enforcement is doing, yet feel the need to hire 5 other experts. She knows that law enforcement is going to find her a match because she knows she wrote it. There is no need to call them and ask if it matched. What she needs is to go through 5 of their own experts to get the answer they want. I think if Lou Schmidt wouldn’t have concluded that the killer came through the basement window, they would have replaced him with other private investigators that could give them what they wanted to hear. When you are innocent you know every aspect of what’s going on and are willing to freely talk about anything. If you’re guilty you know if you talk too much, something may get revealed that you don’t want.
Who puts a bed pillow on a kitchen counter covered in food?
THAT ONE line that the son /brother says, to me says it ALL: I guess I will just go on with my life.... WHAT nine year old would say that mature phrase when his sister is brutally murdered?I would be crying hysterically at that age if my older brother was murdered! No nine year old in a regular family would say that- and WHY did he say that??????? TELLING: she is in the PAST now, for him. he is FREE of her, of her shadow, of her talent,of her stage presence, of her attention on her, ALL of it! OH my God, that phrase gave me the CREEPS! WHY do the parents not verify the pineapple? I think he got in a fight over pineapple struck her maybe didn't know he killed her, the parents found out and had to 'cover it up to sve the son's future. it is the only thing that fits EXCEPT the in known DNA on her. THAT is the only other scenario.
I read that JB was sent to ER like 30 times from Burke striking her, even with a gold club. The weapon? Many say the black flashlight in the kitchen photo, it is big, heavy, and its shape matched the wound. It seemed very Burke. He was smearing feces all over her room, terrible sibling abuse.
Excellent points. I agree that BR is the most likely culprit.
At nine, I fought constantly with my little brother, but if anything had ever happened to him-well, to be honest, I couldn’t even have imagined that at that age. We were so safe and sheltered. I think I would have been out of my mind, not just for him but for my parents, who would be hysterical. Any ordinary child would be overcome with emotion of some kind, even if it’s shock.
There was NOTHING normal about Burke Ramsay. He was smearing his you-know-what on JonBenet’s bedroom walls and Christmas presents. That is not sibling fighting. That is next-level sadism and extreme disturbance. That can’t be overstated.
So much was wrong in that household. JonBenet was born into a deeply disturbed family and she was failed by so many people around her.
Feels like authorities had plenty of reasons to keep scrutinizing this family as prime suspects. Heaven know there was no shortage of evidence. Almost mind boggling that there wasn't more follow up. How many clues do you need? The only question for me is; which one of them did it. They certainly were all in on the coverup and it almost feels like the DA was paid off to back off.
I AGREE WITH YOU.
Hard to believe a foreign faction decides to organize in Boulder Colorado. And why would killers respect his business, lovingly wrap her in her favorite yet brutally kill her? Why didn't the ransom letter match the crime? Why would JR try untie her arms & not the cord around her neck?
I can't begin to guess what may have happened because it's too sick for me, but the parents certainly do. They go on TV interviews and make a fortune off of their dead daughter is truly disgusting. Their smug and arrogant demeanor is irritating. Some people say everyone grieves differently, BS. If this was some kind of accident and the parents are covering it up I can believe that but normal people would still tear up at least and become emotional to some extent, however to constantly go on TV and show no emotion at all is evil and psychotic. They look like they are enjoying the fame like some sort of movie star, that's not normal. Also they are all about defending themselves and not putting effort into finding who supposedly killed their daughter. This was an awful case and it's sad that they got away with this fabricated story.
John Ramsey is certainly a very cold fish, if nothing more.
HOW COULD JOHN TALKED SO CALM
Yes to more analyses. Thanks!
You got it!
Agree !!!
Also year after year they were only concerned about clearing their name and not finding out who killed their daughter and why!!
If you were innocent from the moment this happened you wouldn’t care if ppl thought you had something to do with it you would tell the detectives , ok what do you need from me so you can rule me out because I want who did this found.
AGREE!
Sometimes actions speak louder than evidence.
I don't know why Mr. & Mrs. Ramsey would repeatedly agree to interviews other than to "throw stuff into the game." They did not need to do this to keep the case in the public eye. It is bizarre that there is no touch DNA on pages from a pad that "lived" in that house.
They have to keep the narative going.
The strange ransom letter alone is enough for me to know something is not right here we are being misled. I doubt very much that was a genuine ransom letter . Great coverage TCRS.
The note was in Patsy's handwriting. The fur on JonBenet was from Patsy's coat. Although it's possible that Burke killed his sister and Patsy covered it up, it is more likely that soneone psychotic enough to write the note actually murdered her daughter.
I've watched that behavior panel. They are absolutely terrible at identifying when people are lying.
They are useless.
thnx, I have always found them bizarrely clueless
Yes the fur was from Patsy's beaver coat hehehehehe.
@@RawOlympiathey seem to be caught up in some narcissism
The Ramsay’s are “People of the Lie.”
Jon wrote the note and copied Patsy’s writing. The whole thing was Jon. How else was the previous sexual scarring there. Think about it.
The Gardner said he never remembered that window being broken. Jon broke the window. Set it up to “scream” intruder. Jon answers all the clues that exist. I do not know if Patsy even knew Jon was involved! He is a slick one. Jon fooled everyone!
I assume Jon was getting close to being found out. Jon Bennet’ may have gotten fed up and said she was going to tell on him. My own Dad was a long- term Pastor and counseled 100’s. People you would never expect to do bad, had done some terrible things. Believe me. I was shocked at things I saw happen. Linda Arndt was right. It was figured out on day one. Jon escaped all of it. I am a wise 70 year old, and I believe I am right. If Jon did not do it, why the previous abuse confirmed by 3 pathologists? I have a way that was given in my heart that told me the truth. I am not shallow believing Jon did it. He has everyone fooled and he is very smart and cool!
Weird if he duped his own wife on this. There was an award winning journalist who Nat'l Enq. (I know, I know) paid to go out there and stay until the case was solved. They had her pic on every cover, somewhere for a long time. That guy interviewed teachers of JB who said she complained about the dad. Sadly, the journalist, I think his name was Alexander, was found dead in his hotel room in Boulder.
@@RawOlympiaWow, I have never heard of this! About a journalist being found dead. I did hear that JB was speaking to a counselor at school, but not sure if it was confirmed what she was telling him/her.
Interesting take on this- wow, Jon wrote it copying Patsey's handwriting- yeah, they never tested HIM writing like Patsey!
No.
I agree
This in-depth work was intricately detailed with observations and analyses that bring more clarity to this case than even detectives/police I believe have missed. Watched it twice it was so interesting. Thank you.
Can someone confirm if Melinda (his other daughter) did in fact accuse John Ramsey of SA, thanks.
She addimently deines any form of abuse from her father.
I heard on a podcast that his living daughter denied her father did anything sexual towards her.
I noticed that John Ramsey stated that they were to, "rendezvous " with their older children to have a Christmas all together, when explaining where they were supposed to go that morning. It makes me think about the word attaché in the ransom letter.
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Patsy wrote the note...mho. John knows it. He's keeping this going to deflect suspicion from Patsy and Burke
And himself. If Burke didn't do it, his parents were willing to let him go thru life with suspicion hanging over him. They must know more than they were telling.
I just heard that John Ramsey left his house a few minutes after the phone call for the ransom note. He was gone for a hour!!?? He also called his pilot to tell him they want to leave and fly to Atlanta?? What is going on with these people?
HE TOLD THE BPD HE HAD AN IMPORTANT MEETING HE HAD TO ATTEND IN GEORGIA. IS HE FOR REAL? WHO WOULD EVEN THINK OF ATTENDING A MEETING THE DAY YOUR DAUGHTER WAS FOUND DEAD IN YOUR HOME. YOU GAVE YOUR GUILT AWAY JOHN WITH THAT ONE!!!!!!! THE BPD KNEW IT WAS THEM RIGHT FROM THE VERY BEGINNING. THAT IS WHY JOHN RAMSEY CRITICIZED THE BPD EVERY CHANCE HE HAD.
@@freddie3206 He never told anyone he had an important meeting in Georgia.
He wanted to fly to Atlanta because they considered it their home and their family was there.
They wanted to be with family for comfort and emotional support.
Also they thought they would be safer there.
Police told them they couldn't leave so they stayed with friends.
Is it my imagine , but are they actually laughing and smirking??.
Neither John or Patsy ever really cried in grief over Death of their daughter. Never showed anger for whomever did this horrible disgraceful offense to their daughter. Always collected and cal and how could one be if they truly had no idea who did this . I’d be out of my mind angry, desperate in finding the responsible party who did this to their flesh and blood .
This whole thing creeps me out so much. Just the vibes coming off these two...
I think Father is a creepy SA abuser, but maybe he didn't 'M' her, but he knows who did.
Excellent analysis! Thank you Nick for your dedication
A summary.... John's original plan was to fly Burke and Patsy to their other house then fly back to get rid of her little body. No police....but Patsy only read we have kidnapped your daughter and she did what mothers do ran to find her child crying my baby my baby. Patsy called police. John wrongly assumed Patsy had read 3 pages but she didn't. John's plan changed to messing up the crime scene. John told Patsy to ring their friends to come round. Everyone touched his note. Burke and Patsy never had knowledge...
They went on a worldwide privacy tour.
Great work on the channel mate I remember when you had a few hundred subs .Glad to see your hard work has paid off
This little girl was wetting her bed alot why?.
Amazing point, that shows extreme distress
The ransom note was obviously written by a woman for far more reasons than were listed in this video. A man couldn't have written something this dumb with a gun held to his head. And by saying that, I mean no insult to women. I'm thinking more like when Mark Twain told his wife, who had started cussing at him, "honey, you know the words, but you don't know the tune."
Excellent video. I wish every person person invested in this case could see it. Thank You @True Crime Rocket Science
John plays dumb to the point of actually being comical its so transparent .... one certainly doesn't need to be Sherlock Holmes to identify this families involvement... only question for me is; why did the authorities back off so easily in the face of all these obvious high percentage clues of involvement?
There’s an interview 20 years after with a lead detective. He states they were being handcuffed from the start. Couldn’t process evidence or get warrants. The DA was protecting the Ramseys all along. John was a big supporter and donated money. Even after the decision from grand jury to indict the DA threw it away.
I got ebe jebes when patsy said! Who EVER wrote the letter, is the KILLER! 😮
AMAZING JOB WELL DONE AS ALWAYS NICK .WE APPRECIATE U BLESSINGS 2 U AND UR FAMILY HI TIMMY
It was Patsy. I studied this case for years.
Patsy was very well presented in all the pics going back years: well groomed, nice clothes, neat and tidy. So what the heck was going on in that home? They had a housekeeper, but it was filthy and disorganised with junk worthy of a hoarder. Not just the basement, living room and jb bedroom. Look at the pics of the kitchen work surfaces and table. That kind of crap doesn’t accumulate in 24hrs. It looks insanitary. So what was the underlying psychodynamic going on in that home?
Also, regarding the handwriting rebuttal, not once does Patsy acknowledge that the parents will always be the first to be investigated, so coming off as defensive, or rather being defensive, shows some shade of guilt. She had no idea her handwriting was sent to the FBI, and how dare they without first asking her. (That was sarcasm).
Two different neighbors across the street heard a scream after midnight.!
So, John Ramsey is trying to distance himself from having the ability to handle ropes and knots?
He also, mentions the window and glass as though it were a discovery, only later to state that he had previously broken the window?
And, yes, he absolutely preceeds through his statement from the perspective of the intruder/killer. He seems to be going through what he did when he "found" her in the order of what happened with the last thing he did being the first thing he says.
I dont know if he killed his daughter; but it sure seems like he is the one who tied her up in the basement.
Jesus. What kind of cold-hearted bastard could do that, for any reason?
Agreed. If so. That level of coldness is beyond belief of most individuals.
You are correct.
Each person shows their grief in different ways.
Jon Benet..is in Heaven !…and Patsy is paying for her sins now…! John and Burke will pay in God’s time for what they have done!..I’m so sorry Jon Benet for what you went through that fateful night and maybe many more before!..
Most DEFINITELY‼️NO 6 YEAR OLD SHOULD HAVE TO SUFFER IN THE WAY JON BENET DID & REALLY NO INNOCENT CHILD SHOULD EITHER.
1. The window always baffled me. How is it that the window wasn't fixed asap with children in the house after John claimed to have broken it the summer before? Fleet in the movie seemed to acknowledge the window right away. Unless he wanted to confront John about it. I didn't know John said he went in the basement around 10 am that morning. I think he broke that window and left it open to stage the breakin theory. (Or Fleet) I also believe John already knew JonBenet was in that basement at that time. Probably the reasonn he went straight to John Benet. If someone was trying to escape through that particular window, why use a suitcase instead of a chair? An adult would think to use a chair. A child...well. Why the suitcase was there in front of the window with a children's book and a blanket inside of it? Looks like someone did attempt in a childish way try to escape in a panic but gave up on the idea
2. I don't understand why the detective didnt try to find a way to open the door to the room JonBenet was found in. Doesn't make sense because if this case was a drug raid, they would've broken down that door. How is it John didn't know JonBenet was dead? Her body was stiff as a board when he lifted her up off of the floor. The knots in the cord being hard to loosen is bogus because it was loosened on top of her sleeves.
3. I definitely think Patsy wrote that note. The evidence doesnt point to anyone else unless the housekeeper wrote it. The housekeeper had a pad from the Ramsey's home as well. (I dont think thats the case though)
4. There is no way JonBenet and Burke was asleep in their beds because if that was the case, JonBenet's sweater she wore that night wouldn't be on the edge of the bed. Someone had to have changed her clothes in order for her to be in the long johns when she was found. Burke was not sleep the entire time on the day Patsy was supposed to have found the ransom note.
5. I think the "DNA" was planted on JonBenet
6. I think one of the officers helped cover up the crime scene. Maybe the same one that didn't open the door to the seller.
7. I think someone killed Michael and planted evidence to fit the scene (They may even have persuaded him to help cover up the scene...blackmail) because he was a great fall guy. He was a known criminal that had access to the home.
8. Answer this, why is it the Ramseys backstabb the Whites. What happened between them? Sometimes when a team work together to either cover up or do a crime, they start pointing fingers at one another.
9. JonBenet didn't die on the 25th because the neighbor heard her scream around 1am on the 26th. How is it no one in the house heard the scream but the neighbor did?
10. I also think that John's job has something to do with this situation because of the $118,000. There was a "misunderstanding" about that bonus. I think John may have stolen that money from that previous employer. Otherwise, why would that bonus be so significant.
11. I think Patsy was upset with John about something because of the way she looked at him sometimes.
12. Who ever did kill JonBenet was in the house while Detective Arnt was in the house. She was afraid for her life.
13. Who ever made that "garotte" made it in that house. Someone was referring to the Boy Scout book that was on the basement floor. I also think the marks on JonBenet came from one of the train track parts from the train room. JonBenet couldve been killed in that room.
14. I think there is a strong indication that Burke could have been involved. "Were not speaking with you". The way they did everything in their power to protect him. The interview he had with the psychiatrists shows that Burke knew beforehand about the bowl of pineapple. He even gave an indication of how JonBenet was snuck down into the basement and hit in the head.
@IAMTHATIAM1618, tHERE WAS A CHAIR IN THAT SAME ROOM WITH THE BROKEN WINDOW, SO YOU ARE RIGHT, WHY NOT USE A CHAIR. THERE WAS NO INTRUDER ANYWAY. THIS WAS AN INSIDE JOB FOR SURE.
The housekeepers husband was asked to fix the window around Thanksgiving, and he didnt do it.
The housekeepers sons handwriting matched the ransom letter more than Patsys did.
Burke must have used that big ole flashlight to clobber his sister over the head. The flashlight was wiped clean of prints and so were the batteries. They would have called 911 for their daughter, but JBR had been s/a also. That on top of the head clobber, they couldn't take the chance of losing burke. So the dad staged the scene.
I heard John on Dr. Phil say the talked to police for several hours at the beginning until their friend told them that police were starting to suspect them. Then they lawyered up.
Some friend, eh? Caused them to be under suspicion for 28 years
There is some photos in candyrose websites about John Andrew's room. Its strange.
Thank you for your hard work on producing these videos. Broken glass on TOP OF THE SUITCASE, undisturbed spider web in the window opening, the garrote made with PATSY'S PAINT BRUSH
and the family DOG does NOT bark once, Solves the case for me.
I am just starting to watch and I have always felt it was done by someone in that house….too many things that point to someone familiar with the family and home