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Engines of Union Pacific Episode 4 GE U50 and U50C (Read Pinned Comment)
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- Опубліковано 19 лип 2021
- Today we will talking about the history of the Union Pacific U50 and U50C.
This series is based on the Engines of Septa series by Thunderbolt 1000 Siren Productions and Engine of Amtrak by AmtrakGuy365.
Link to Horn Sample used in video: • Leslie RS-5T-RF Horn
Link to Wiki about Baby Huey: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baby_Huey
4:05 and 9:13 Edit for an error in this video. U actually stands for Universal and not U-boat. U-boat is just a nickname. As well as the 50 actually stands for 5,000 HP.
Also I'm now aware that I said ARR instead of AAR.
And 50 is the abbreviation for the static horsepower rating.
@@ddblink02 Is it?
@@ottomatic6432 Yes?
@@ottomatic6432 He's right. The Universal series was the first series of locomotives made by General Electric after they dissolved their partnership with ALCo. The Universal series was superseded by the Dash-7 series and then followed by Dash-8, Dash-9, Evolution Series (ES), and now Evolution Tier IV (ET). The two digit number always indicated the first digits of the rated horse power - i.e. U25 = Universal series 2,500HP, U50 = Universal series 5,000HP and so on.
With the Dash series it was B or C for a two or three axle per truck designation followed by the two digit HP indicator then the final digit after the dash came from the first digit of the decade of the design -7 =1970s, -8 + 1980s, -9 = 1990s. ES and ET series use a combination of these factors for their naming. Anything with "AC" merely means it was built with AC traction motors versus DC, which is now all but gone on the ETs.
16:04
When the world needed him the most, he returned!
Geez, I just love the level of enthusiasm you showed in the intro. Don't over exert yourself.
The "Forest Gump" line from the old lady at a bus stop comes to mind;)
Finally this series is making a comeback
Yeah.
Glad to see it make a comeback! Can’t wait for the C855! Sorry I missed the premier…
Thank you for making this video I do remember U 50 locomotives when they were in service
The series that got me into trains is back!
I had no idea these engines existed in the past. Thanks for all of the research and effort you put into this video. Enjoyed it very much. Very informative.
Just discovered the channel! Love the content!
Welcome back Otto!
Glad to see Engines of Union Pacific back.
EDIT: Your voice was extremely quiet in this video. I could barely hear you!
Here's a tip for you - Speak up!
The u50 diesels looked quite interesting. I wish at least one of them was preserved.
Agreed, along with the Alco 855s used by the UP, hmm, I wonder if anyone saved any of the builders plates, or possibly anything of either one, there's no EMD DD35s either.
I tooo they look so unlike standard cab units
Awesome that you are finally back with this series!
I wrote this story in my journal some years back about the U50. Titled "Whirlybird". I hope you like it---
The Union Pacific had a medium number of particular locomotives in the mid 60’s that were touted to be the cutting edge in the future of modern and efficient railroading. The U50. Train crews called “Whirlybirds”; a nickname derived from giant cooling fans positioned directly behind the cab that would switch on intermittently per thermostat control. Since the bulkhead partition wall between the fans and the rear of the cab was only a few inches thick, the fans were very noisy. Quite annoying, actually.
These locomotives where also strangely shaped. While the windshields on a typical locomotive do not give the cab’s occupants a forward view around the nose much closer than about 20 feet directly in front of the snout, the Whirlybird's large, panoramic windshields were the leading face of the unit, with a sweeping view that placed the whole world right there in your lap. I had ridden aboard many-a-nomenclature of locomotives prior to it, but this was just a weird duck all around.
We left Evanston, Wyoming at around 8:00 AM, westbound to Ogden, Utah. You may notice on weather reports that Evanston is often the coldest spot in the country. They’re right. On this mid morning the temperature had finally warmed to around zero with winds gusting to 70 mph or more in bright sunshine. When conditions like that arise, the semi trucks on Interstate 80 usually stack up in Evanston rather than to fight the raging winds across the edge of the Wasatch run.. but not the trains.. they just keep rolling.. and on we went.. with a Whirlybird up front.. unit #34. At the throttle was my father, with fireman George and I in the left seats.. back in the day when you could take your kid on the point and not fear losing your job or license over it. I was only 12.
Real powder snow has a consistency similar to that of tiny styrofoam packing beads. Each flake frozen and suspended individually. It is impossible to pack it into a snowball as the snow will simply puff from your hands like fluttering pillow feathers. Now, combine a vast abundance of that type of crystal-dry snow with a 70 mph wind on a clear day and you get what I like to call a “sunny day blizzard”.
As we progressed across the open terrain of southwest Wyoming, the broad-sided engine swayed through the wind on its truck springs like a boat on high seas, with sweeping snow glancing over the surface of those gaping windshields in a granular manner much like dry sand in a desert dust storm. The visibility was zip; though each time we would pass into a brief lull in the wind and its horizontal snow, a brilliant daylight would open up to expose nothing but a bright, white carpet in front of our flat, speeding nose; the tracks completely covered. A short distance ahead would be the next torrent of snow barreling across the tracks from left-to-right. We would enter into each one much like hitting a waterfall on a bicycle, and emerge out of each one feeling the rear-pull of the wind rippling the cars behind us, causing a whipping motion up front.
As an excited youngster I felt invincible on this massive sled of steel-- though to an experienced engine crew this escapade was a becoming quite removed from anything resembling a safe and sane experience.
No one on that train ever forgot that day. Just when we thought we had it bad up front, my uncle, a brakeman, my dad’s brother, was back in the crummy. He called up front on the radio. His voice sounded troubled, and conveyed that the wind was tearing the caboose’s main roof panel away. I remember my dad hanging up the microphone and getting a chuckle out of it saying, “What does he think we’re going to do.. stop and fix it?”, so he called him back and laughingly told him to stuff a seat cushion into the hole.
Upon our arrival in Ogden we found that the “hole” was actually a large portion the roof forward of the cupola, and the caboose interior was loaded-- no, make that packed-- with snow. Much worse than we thought it would be. Just a bad day for all involved.. though quite memorable for a wide-eyed kid on one hell of a ride-- and thus was my only experience with a U50 Whirlybird.
In the end, if I recall correctly, I think the general consensus of any engine crew who were ever begrudgingly forced to lay a hand on the U50 considered them as nothing more than a tin can excuse of a locomotive, and would agree that the whole project would have been much better served if these units had instead been relegated as hostler goats in some distant Soviet rail yard, or better yet, sunken somewhere as an artificial reef.
Thank you for sharing history with us
The main problem of the aluminium wiring was that, unlike copper, it quickly wirk hardened and factured......often at the point it was crimped into connections causing multiple electrical faults.....
That is actually not correct. Aluminum wiring simply has a very high resistance and heats up more than copper wiring. This causes it to expand and contract much more than copper which can cause loose connections. It has nothing to do with hardening or breaking.
NO, WHEN ALUMINUM REACHES A CERTAIN HEAR POINT, IT WILL MELT, ESPECIALLY WHEN THE WIRING IS MADE OF ALUMINUM.
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Even though you think im new I've seen your other engines of UP, it's good to see this series back, even if there wasn't gonna be any more engines of UP 3 of them would be a good number. I'm happyto see your Engines of UP. :)
Somewhat informative , yet depressing… Good collection of images and video.
The baby huey moniker was a reference to Howard Hughes giant airplane, The Spruce Goose. Which, incidentally, also proved its concept, but was ultimately a failure in that it didn't generate any sales, much like the U50.
I didn’t realiZe how long your vids were gone until now wow haha
Outstanding content 👍
A little side note, FYI. The UP U50's had 24RL air brakes and the SP U50's had 26 air brake.
A really good engines of Union Pacific video would on the C-855 units, and the C-855B unit.
I enjoyed it, but seems like you need to bring your audio up quite a bit.
Did not know that some of them were still in use all the way into the late 1970s.
You even had a picture of one being scrapped awesome
Interesting is the mention of using locomotives in the '70's as civil power suppliers. Something Texas should have considered last winter?
In the USSR they actually put diesel/electric locomotives on pneumatic tires so they could reach areas without power in case they were hit by a nuclear strike
@@K-Effect I read an article about a Canadian (I think) town having an engine or two rolled down a street to provide power in a blizzard.
Judging from what a online friend that works for a texas power company told me it wouldn't do anything since they had generators ready to go but higher ups told them to stay put.
Service as power generators winter 1998.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MLW_M-420
@@K-Effect true but only 2 were built and the experiment never carried out. One was scrapped and the outher sits abandoned in a storage lot in Belarus among outher equipment that was built for experiments that eaither fail right away or never saw any use once the funds ran out.
Thanks it was awesome
I will always have maximum appreciation for these engines. I will never think of them as failures. They just needed a little more done to them to make them more reliable, which they never bothered to do. Or even if it didn't help, they should have at least tried to preserve one or two of them.
I am a big time rail enthusiast,, especially Union Pacific. Most all of UP's big power is very interesting, but I have to say both of these are a couple of the most goofy looking locomotives ever built.
Amazing video 🔥
I swear I remember seeing somewhere that at least one other double engine variant locomotive still existed and it wasn't one of the Centennial types either but I don't remember where it was
It was a rebuilt DD35
@@thedesigner00 could you send a link ?
I hadn't seen this video series until today (5/2024), but there IS a double-diesel unit that isn't one of the Centennials... though it may not be the one you were thinking of...
One Southern Pacific Krause-Maffei ML 4000, #9010, still exists. It was a German-built, twin engine diesel-hydraulic locomotive initially as a joint-venture between the Denver and Rio Grande Western and the Southern Pacific in 1961. Each railroad ordered 3 units, but after just three years, D&RGW sold theirs to the SP... who went on to order 15 more (which were built in South America under license). #9010 came from the second order... all the rest, including the initial 6, were scrapped in 1968.
Union Pacific: we want more powerful engines
Ge: how bout I give you two but the engines are very crappy
Cool Man. Thanks!!
Keep doing more Videos for Series
I have to spiritually apologize to Con-Cor, the model maker who made this locomotive in N-Scale. I thought they screwed up by putting the first ladder ahead of that triangle on the walkway edge behind the cab instead of behind like the prototype. I didn't realize that the first stair was indeed ahead of the triangle on the first batch of delivered in 1963 31-to 40. It was the second batch from 41 on that had the stair behind the triangle. So I have to make sure my UP U50s are numbered from 31 to 40!
I remember watching the Gas Turbine episode when it first came out. I will make an engines of GO Transit series.
LOVE the U50’s!
I’m glad I found this
Union Pacific has owned a very large amount of massive, gigantic steam and diesel locomotives from the period of the 1930s-1970s.
please could you produce a segment/video on the life and history of genset's.
Love UP Trains
Correction, Universal class U-boat is just a nickname for them.
WOW OMG!!!! 4TH EPISODE
Wow didn’t think that episode 4 would happen
You didn't mention the nickname these U Boats had on the UP: Whirleybirds. The name came from the big fan areas at the front and back of these units with large horizontal fans.
I posted a story here about the Whirlybird name, too. I am surprised it wasn't mentioned in the video since it was a common nickname with engine crews. At least on the UP's Wyoming-Utah stretch where my dad engineered them it was.
@@FromMyEyesToYours I ran the U25's on both Penn Central and BN on the ATSF Joint Line. Whirleybirds is what we called them also. They made a high pitched whining sound along with the fan noise. Later GE's were a bit more quiet.
At last
The revival
Is there any footage of them with blown turbos? GE locomotives are known for that.
Enjoyed the video, pity it did't have a happy ending. How about a video on the German hydraulics trialled in the US? They had two good looking designs.
Good show
Do you, or any of your readers know where I can find some video or pictures of Pacific Electric/Southern Pacific SW 1 1010?
the legacy of the u50c would be the gevo 16-cyl 6-axle truck with entry door in the cab nose.
if only one or a few remained, to see what juniata and other shops would have done to recycle these beasts.
How about shows on the F3's/F-9's, FA's, and PA's?
Thank gosh no U50Cs exist, because they were junk.
The U50s on the other hand, I’m cool with preserving.
DO the engines of Southern Pacific ML 4000
Overall, good info. I had just assumed that when the newer 4000 hp engines came out, on a smaller frame, they didn't need the bigger fuel guzzlers, with the oil crisis going on. One minor correction, the C model had two, 3 axle trucks, one on each end, not 6 axles per truck.
P.S: I know it was saddening how they were scrapped, but you sounded like you had just heard your favorite pet, got run over by the neighborhood drunk, with a road roller! Hope your day gets better.
Cool.
What type of airhorn& bell did the U 50 use?
Very cool video just some CC, you repeated a lot of the same things just worded differently
And I subscribe to your channel. Thanks
u50 and u50c are my favorite locomotive
I do like this locomotive
Jesus! Eeyore of Winnie the Pooh!
15:43tell me anything that I might of missed about the u50 and u50c that I might of missed
The U50C had two 3-axle trucks for a total of 6 axles, not 6-axle trucks as you repeatedly said. I understand it is an oversight but these things need to be sorted out when you are writing the script. You have quite a bit of good information here, especially production run numbers and dates, retirement dates and interesting operational highlights (or lowlights as the case may be), you just need to eliminate the errors and sharpen up the delivery.
I did not know Debbie Downer had a brother. The first depressing minute kept me from watching the rest.
do c36-7i
No worries.
Its my birthday tomorow
Your explanation of the model designation is incorrect. "U" stood for "Universal Series", not "U Boat", as the latter is a railfan created term and has no relation to the manufacturer. 50 stood for 50(00) Horsepower, where the two digits stood for HP in hundreds, in common with the rest of the series. Also it's AAR (Assoc. of American Railroads), not ARR which are the reporting marks for the Alaska Railroad.
I realized this too late, alright? The corrections are on my pinned comment.
@@ottomatic6432 yeah, I know what a pain it is when you've spent hours editing and you only realize it after its uploaded.
@@fmnut Yeah and I'm not going back to do it again after the wait. I'm just gonna move on to the next one.
Me gustan mucho los trenes de Norteamérica aunque nunca tuve el placer de viajar en ellos Jorge
Ah yes. Engines of Union Pacific
"Turbines of the Wasatch"
Liked the info but you can keep your editorial comments to your self
Move closer to the microphone please
I wish csx frieght diesal was a u50c
11:27 R.I.P. Headphones
Hi OttoMatic, As an English major, I suggest that you NOT ramble on in the beginning about the past; that train has left the station and you can't bring it back in this one. Go back, if you must, to the third one and correct it or re-do it. In addition, at 9:20, you said "six-axled trucks" instead of 3-axled trucks, which we know you meant to say. Peace, M.
You need to redo the audio! It's too low.
R.I.P 9950
Can't hear you.....
Can you do Big Boy next? My brother wants to watch it.
I don't do random requests on what will come next. Maybe later on I will but not right now. sorry
😢
UP=Up the Power
U stands for Universal
Are you sure? Last time I remember, U would usually mean U-boat for this engine. Is that not correct?
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In bed, oh good, an excellent documentary
“Boom boom boom boom clap, boom boom boom boom clap”
“Crap….WE’RE THE UNION PACIFIC!”
And i thought the 7FDL cleared 4,000 horsepower, not 2,000.
What
6:34 Besides the differences it wasn’t hard to tell which was which. . .I mean... honestly...you’d have to be a dumb@$$ to mix them up.
-Ottomatic 2021
Restore 9050 and tell everyone you know
U50C...Five lbs of shit in a three pound bag.
The double diesel has to be the DUMBEST concept ever ------
They originated for the soul purpose of high speed rail passenger service ,,,
but U.P. never gained that knowledge of
"" IT DIDN'T WORK ""
Yes it illimited more crews ,, but if one double diesel went in for shopping , it was the same as 2 single prime movers units ---
1 -- U50 in the shop Equals
2 -- U25 in the shop
4 -- GP7/9 in the shop
DUMB CONCEPT !!!!!!!!!!!
THEY ARE GONE, BUT NOT FORGOTTEN. I BELIVE THAT YOU can still find ho scalemodels of this unique locomotive, somewhere.