The Roots of Attention: A Conversation with Amishi Jha (Episode
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- Опубліковано 3 жов 2024
- Sam Harris speaks with Amishi Jha about attention and the brain. They discuss how attention is studied, the failure of brain-training games, the relationship between attention and awareness, mindfulness as an intrinsic mental capacity, the neurological implications of different types of meditation, the neural correlates of attention and distraction, the prospects of self-transcendence, the link between thought and emotion, the difference between dualistic and nondualistic mindfulness, studying nondual awareness in the lab, the influence of smartphones, the value of mind wandering, and other topics.
Dr. Amishi Jha, PhD, is a professor of psychology at the University of Miami. She serves as the Director of Contemplative Neuroscience for the Mindfulness Research and Practice Initiative, which she cofounded in 2010. She received her PhD from the University of California, Davis, and did postdoctoral training at the Brain Imaging and Analysis Center at Duke University. Her work has been featured at NATO, the World Economic Forum, and the Pentagon, and she’s been covered in The New York Times, NPR, Time magazine, and Forbes. With grants from the Department of Defense and several private foundations, she leads research on the neural bases of attention and the effects of mindfulness-based training programs on cognition, emotion, resilience, and performance. Dr. Jha’s national bestseller, Peak Mind, describes her work with a variety of high-demand groups, from special forces, elite athletes, and first responders, to teachers, business and medical professionals, and students. Her forthcoming app, Pushups for the Mind, will be available to U.S. military service members in the fall of 2024, and for public release in early 2025.
Website: amishi.com/
Twitter: @amishijha
August 23, 2024
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While listening to this interview about attention, I have been sitting here with my eyes closed paying close attention. Rather than focusing so much on the words that were spoken, in my mind's eye I created a scene, imagining watching the interview. It really helped me to cling onto every word, but one thing I noticed was sometimes they would say something, and it would carry my mind away. For example when Dr. Jha mentions the juggling analogy, my mind was briefly carried away thinking about juggling.
When I managed to catch myself doing this I would come back to the scene created in my head. It has been a trip, great interview. Also reeling enjoying the Waking Up app.
Nice comment. I love that idea for a mindful listening skill. I checked out yiur channel as a result of your cool comment. Love the PT videos! Good stuff!!! Hope your channel grows to your hearts desire. ❤
You had fallen asleep
Their is no value in this
@@Keepitcurious1685 Thank you!❤
😂@@Keepitcurious1685😂
It’s incredible that we as a society don’t really know what’s really important
Sam’s conversations with political figures, pod casters and current events get mass attention thousands of comments and conversations like this that should be #1 because the mind is what drives us gets very little attention
We will get there someday!
2:19 starts the talkin'
if you had sponsor block, it would have automatically jumped to that time when you clicked the video
@@ChemicaLove I do not. I have UA-cam Premium, but do not support Sam directly with funds.
25:49 to 27:37 is a beautiful metaphor and helps me understand the goal of mindfulness.
You should totally release the second half of the interview with Destiny, it was just getting good.
(Do not castrate your brain just because one process is limited) I think it has less to do with limiting reactivity, and more about increasing the sense of importance of what you are witnessing. If you shut down the feedback loop of witnessing and reaction, you actually castrate a tool of engagement, rather than optimize. Don't remove things, add things to the direction of focus (admiring the micro objects in the direction of focus, rather than castrating reactivity). Castrating expression and reaction is a miss-appropriation of optimization, rather admire the details about the object of focus. Don't shut down processes (unless what you are focusing on is nonsense), rather increase admiration for the details of the object of focus. Because ultimately, if what you are witnessing isn't important to you, that is the real factor limiting focus (of course, if that's what you want to train yourself to focus one, sometimes it may not be, it may be getting in the way of something new and more important [avoiding the beaten path]). It's important to note, (reactivity) is good, engagement with the environment is a feedback process, just witnessing is okay, but you need both processes. (amplify witnessing [get the data], amplify reactivity [form a algorithm for dealing with the data]). It's just undeniable for rational minds that this is the right answer, full stop end of story. The thing destroying attention is (social media influencers amplifying for reactions while decreasing attention, which reaction is good, but attention destruction isn't, both processes need to be in a feedback loop, however censorship and data harvesting to psychologically drive anger and wars for ad revenue). Don't destroy more processes of the mind, rather increase the processes that are decreasing (attention + reaction = better brain health). For the social media influencers stealing personal data and waging psychological warfare, it's best for the state to monitor those individuals and how they run their social media campaigns in order to protect the society.
This is really interesting. Can you say more about how that might look in an actual exercise or practice?
i got a booster because of this podcast (and grateful for it)
A booster? Of what?
Ohh Sam is publishing another book soon, he is suddenly on every podcast again haha. I will buy it for sure
Concepts talked about here such as purposeful attention, pointing an internal flashlight, agency, executive control, focusing, redirecting - refer to observable instances of volition.
Subsequently calling free will an illusion makes no more sense than conceptualizing doubt without the prior concept of certainty. In both cases you end up as a self-contradicting sceptic.
RIGHT WHEN IT AFFECTS PROFESSIONAL CAREER AND PHYSICAL HEALTH
I am a driving instructor, the extent that our unruly attention creates issues with driving is statistically significant. 3 flavors of target fixation (might be more) are all related to SQUIRREL!!! this.
Good night everyone ❤
If you look at i.q. you learn sustained attention = concentration. I will be interested in what structures in the brain she mentions. Their are many cognitive biases people have thus frontal lobe is needed to say is this true or relevant. Goal related dopaminergic system + frontal lobe. I hope she goes deeper into structures medial prefrontal lobe. Some people have confusion about what is external and what is internal. It creates a feeling of anxiety in these people -many biases occur. Mental phenomenon are not positive or negative (feelings don't have to be acted on). Feeling occur but they are not fact- that is a bias erroneous approach. Thought and feelings can be observed without action. Just like visual things are not always acted on . Just observed and not judged ( especially in insular cortex dysfunction). In that situation judgment will occur and a lack of empathy for oneself or others will occur.
Thank you Thank you Thank you
Usually really like Sam Harris podcasts but this felt like a Sam Harris monologue. It would have been nice for it to be more conversational
Sam pls interview Swami Sarvapriyananda from the Vedanta Society of New York! His talks are amazing and you will get an amazing perspective on non-duality and consciousness and neuroscience
They have had a conversation. It is available on the waking up app.
Investigating the mind in the lab?
Would love to see these conversations recorded on camera in studio.
Cant wait for the destiny chat!!!?!?!?!!
how do you know he chatted with destiny?
@@stevenlee-fb8ky Probably just a hopeful comment, it's hard to imagine what set of circumstances would lead to such a talk given what each of them does.
Lol
@@stevenlee-fb8kydestiny mentioned a convo was going to happen at least several days ago. I can't remember if stuff needed to be worked out still though so it is possible it falls through or something I suppose.
@@stevenlee-fb8kysupposedly they talked this morning
Sam is pretty good at this neuroscience thing
It is a pity we can't click on the subjects within the video. 45 min is quite long.
try working on your attention skills
@@jeddyimposter My attention skills are good. It is a question of time and selection, not attention here.
try working on your empathy skills in addition to your supposed excellent attention skills
I agree with you. Concentrate on aspects that have personal relevance.
Being selective is effective time management.
Mindfulness existed in indian subcontinent way before buddha reintroduced it.
This woman sounds like she has an absolute unit for a brain
hahah I love that description! She totally is a unit
its slang for really strong - "that dude is a total unit". It makes me picture her brain as like a cartoon hulk brain, which seems accurate!
She's streets ahead.
She's amazing. I've listened to many of her podcast interviews
Sort of.
Who else is waiting or the Destiny episode to come out??
Sam, sometimes I think you talk too much. Sometimes I would just like to hear what your guests have to say.
I'm on psych meds so my concentration and attention are terrible.
Sam please interview Bhikkhu Bodhi
❤
Funny to learn how desperate they were to get brain games to "work" and they sold the heck out of it. I can't even remember how many N-back style games were sold as a miracle cure. I think meditation is in the same boat as brain games. Does it work and does it help? Yes. Is it the miracle cure? No. Can I make a course and get rich via meditation? Yes.
Hell yeah Friday night just got pimped
Sam is a World Champion Pseudo intellectual.
Sammy The Pseudo Harris.
@@CP-nl2zb If he is my intellectual pokemon - whomst do you put up to fight him?
@@stevenlee-fb8kyDaniel Dennett, I chose you!
(To be honest though I'm squarely in the Sapolsky/Harris camp on almost everything but if I had to choose an intellectual Pokémon for such a contest, that would probably be the one)
@@christopherchilton-smith6482 yeah good choice. Although I feel like I saw them battle once when they debated free will and I thought Sam sounded more coherent even though I don’t agree with his position on free will. I just though Dennet wasn’t making much sense at all in trying to argue for free will. I think at the moment we just don’t have good evidence one way or the other.
@@christopherchilton-smith6482 who is Sopolski?
"A serious endeavour that has a basis in Science" 😂
“The physical theory suffers from the same affect as humanism; it attempts to live on its own fat and breathe the very air which it has already exhaled from its scientific lungs.”
― Fulton J. Sheen, Philosophy of Science
Sam endorsed by chat bots?
This was the lamest podcast/guest I think I have heard in his podcast…
in a very lame field for at least a year...
That’s because she didn’t speak much so it was hard to judge
Before I start the video you aren’t giving much away
Are we poor people supposed to guess before we pay?
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You are now are hiding the headline !!😆
He only posts partial talks on UA-cam, mostly as a kind of free advertisement for his app where the rest of these talks are actually stored.
Anyone too poor to justify spending money on an app membership can actually send their team an email and get a free membership like I do whenever he posts a talk that really captures my attention. Which is rare enough that usually my membership expires and I have to ask for another one lol. I think I may ask for another one this time though as the neuroscience of attention is actually pretty fascinating.
Can you say that again I wasn't really paying attention. Too busy driving and this sandwich is delicious. oh snap sorry dog
The first you hear that you need to see a neuroscientist you know you have no control over your body. Then listen to this claptrap of heartless mind-control techniques. I'm so glad you have people who could just as easily donate and attend a monastery to pay for your mortgages. But you have to be looking to be beneficial. I am not saying neuroscience is completely bogus. I have just met many people somewhat dismayed both within and outside by the profession.
I'm praying for Sam
For what?
@TADJ369 he is sick with T D S probably the worst case in the country.
The only known cure is God.
Hello sam , I hope your are well , and reading these ...
I agree with most if not all of your opinions on a lot of issues.
And I think its safe to say that you are not a Trump voter for many reasons , when the major one is about Tump not accepting the results of elections in the U.S ( I'm from israel by the way)
But I would like to make the case , that if the small chances that Trump will try to be a dictator is what scares you ...
Right now , when Kamala Harris and waltz are on the democrats side , you should be much more afraid to give them power .
I say that because they will obviously continue and even worsen the immigration problems you already have in United States , and almost certainly give more power to islamists around the U.S as a deal for their vote . They are already doing that .
Hence making the silent Islamic invasion into the U.S a lot easier .
Given that , and what we already know about islamists , their rule of law , according to their religion , is totalitarian , it is not some chances that this will happen , it is a certainty .
So I would be a lot more scared to give power to Kamala right now than to Trump given all that we know .
Sadly those are the only choices right now to the extent that I am aware of...
But out of those two , I would definitely go with Trump , where there is a chance it can go bad , when with Kamala it will definitely go bad . Even when when I try to look at it through your eyes and views ...
Hope you read this , because I think you might be putting yourself in a fast car driving to somewhere you don't want to go .
You're needing to edit again.
When are you endorsing Trump?
When Trump drops out.
When hell freezes over.
Wokism, assuming you can charge Kamala with that, is a far second to Trump's lies, disregard for the Constitution, willingness to subvert the peaceful transition of power, etc., etc.,
When trump is capable of making a coherent and truthful argument for... well... anything
How does a Trumpanzee find oneself listening to a Sam Harris conversation?
DJ has lost his mojo. If he can’t “own the libs” on the reg he is completely useless.
Sam is a World Champion Pseudo intellectual.
Sammy The Pseudo Harris.
...what?
Is he related to that other Harris running for POTUS?
@@TennesseeJed ...no.
@@christopherchilton-smith6482 ...thanks!
@@TennesseeJed My three dot pause before the no was uncalled for. You were asking a simple question and I made an ass of myself by assuming you were being a troll. I apologize Jed.
Sam Sam! Long time no talk! I am about to let your voice wash over me. Your tree is out of this world!. I am going to re-create it immediately for my gallery of meaning. X