Glaring Blindspot with Screenwriters
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- Опубліковано 12 лип 2021
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As I've been talking to writers about working with me 1on1, I've noticed a glaring blind spot that worries me.
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Novelist here. I just wanted to spend a moment and offer you my heartfelt gratitude. Your advice has helped me a great deal. Thank you for your painstaking effort and high production values.
Tyler, your videos are fantastic. You definitely know the areas that new writers will face and your videos are put together in a very professional way. Your insights and the credited sources you touch upon are fantastic. I took notes through your 14 video free course and it was just what I needed. I am crafting a mentor character without flaws and your in depth explanations gave me the courage to break the flaw/want rule because I know exactly why doing so serves my particular story. Thanks Tyler.
How many scripts have you sold Tyler?
No. 1 mistake is is thinking you're not good enough
No. 2 mistake is thinking your work is good enough
Honestly such a realistic view of the process. An AMAZING script will not have huge problems being sold. Always be working on story.
As a 15 year old, I personally find your video’s truly informational and have thought me a lot about the meaning of telling a story and sure how to write character arcs and story structure. But mainly the idea of having that philosophical idea engraved into the story and that each scene serves that purpose. Each dialogue should have that context, subtext and everything to push the story forward. I’m still learning but right now I’m filming my actual first good film. I’d say if I keep it up I’ll simply keep improving and make it
Where can I watch it man?
@@pong6377 still working on it, I’d say the film will be a learning experience for me to go ahead and put these storytelling stuff all together in a better film but I’m sure this film will still pay off and deliver my philosophical idea in the end. Here’s the channel where it will be uploaded: ua-cam.com/channels/d1Bsh1mYi--MDhf0n96cQQ.html
There’s some other films on there which don’t have all this in it since I was still learning!
@@MaxsLEGOStopMotion dont stop at one film always keep writing thats the key. Most importantly just have fun with it.
@@anthonycorcino6700 yep I know I just need to finish this one and I know my next one will be better since I can learn a lot from my last one
@@MaxsLEGOStopMotion you got a long way before you learn. Dont get cockey kid.
Solid outlining should prevent 30-60 pages of rewriting....just saying
How many words of outlining would you say the minimum is or would be sufficient?
@@williamscharzenbergermoran5429 It's not about words, it's about detail. But honestly, if you're outlining and planning is less than 10 pages, you should go into more detail.
But hey, not every writer likes planning. Some prefer rewriting. Find what works for you.
I've never worked on any job that didn't spend weeks on outlining and getting a solid beatsheet with multiple iterations of feedback from producers. Even then, 30 pages of rewrites is common; 60 pages all the time. We hear "writing is rewriting" all the time; if I didn't want to rewrite, then why choose to be a writer in the first place?
@@jeremykayprofessionalscree9914 so you enjoy the notes
@@anthonycorcino6700 I wish I could say I always enjoy it, but the truth is that sometimes I really don't. But it's part of the job, being flexible and not clinging to ego. Or at least trying my best.
I think you have a blind spot: Being so easily swayed by complete strangers..
Great video because I feel like I’ve been plateaued for the past couple of years.
Glad to hear this coming from someone else.
Thanks Tyler, for your videos that have helped me finish my first script!
What experience do you have that allows you to critique the writing of others? Have you sold many screen plays?
People on the internet with zero experience give their takes as objective fact. This guy at least has the decency to cite other people’s ideas about writing and transform them in his own understanding while being levelheaded about it.
@@willadkins1354 but isn't he also selling a service and explaining that he has a level of expertise by running this channel? If someone would pay for his advice I'm assuming he has reached a certain level in the business. So I'm simply asking if he has sold many screen plays or if his expertise comes from being a successful development executive what projects has he ushered into existence. I'm just curious what his bonafides are outside of making these videos.
@@MichaelGrayKimber exactly I am thinking about buying his course, but I’m not sure because idk if he backups what he teaches
I think your question is making a lot of unnecessary assumptions. You're associating ability to SELL with ability to critique. Which is associating selling with experience/being a good writer, and being a good writer with being able to critique the work of others. Tarantino has been a very 'successful' writer, but a lot his advice amounts to 'let the characters tell you the story'. Is that helpful? He works in an intuitive way. And for everyone calling him a genius, there's another calling him a hack, who rips off other writer/directors.
Seems to me that "selling" is a combination of luck to have somebody interested in the specific story you've written, reading at the write time for that kind of project, and/or knowing the right people, or having previously sold something. That really has nothing to do with ability, though obviously a badly written script won't get far if you aren't known, or if it sells even though it's bad, it is immediately rewritten by one or more hired writers. I suppose there are writers who carefully target the studio with the project they've written, but they still need the luck that someone bothers to read it at the right time, and if they've written something based on what is already popular, it's probably too late.
Equally, you can "sell" several scripts that never actually make it into production through no fault of your script. And you can sell a solid script that gets turned into a lousy movie, or a great script that gets turned into a mediocre one. So what does selling prove, objectively?
@@Cesar_09_ all the information he peddles is readily available. All he does is source other people’s thoughts on writing. Save that course money and buy books for certified authors and script writers.
There's always room for improvement! Great video!
I don’t know what this kid has sold but I do know his videos are solid
Yeah, his credentials are lacking but I think the videos and advice itself are good.
Just submitted my first short script. Hope it gets read.
Where did you submit it?
The balls on this kid. “I’ve been taking calls from professional screenwriters.” Meanwhile, he has nothing to show for. 😂 kudos to you kid.
Amen
It is what it is. You gotta earn money. But I really hope he shows us something he has written or edited.
With this logic, who can coach Roger Federer?
Who were the professionals exactly?
I edited this reply so now nothing makes sense
Love your videos Tyler. I know your expertise is screenplays, but would you consider offering feedback on a novel using your services?
I don't think the feedback has to come from someone you don't know. But it should come from someone who has insight on or studied the craft. The real question is how much of this feedback is necessary for a first draft? Some "gurus" suggest as much as possible. I feel things get muddled with too many chefs in the kitchen.
This is true for sure. Bunch of feedback will just make your art crowdsourced and bland
I like your videos, but what writing credentials/accomplishments do you have to back up your videos? Not trying to be disrespectful but I’m just curious.
Hmmmm... much too abstract for me! Of course this makes sense - but I would prefer if you took, say two or three examples of scripts being rewritten and thereby improved - and really show the changes that made them better and perhaps "sellable". What was there from the start, what went out, what stayed... and so on.
I've written a couple of scripts that I shelved. I read others aloud on my channel.
What do you think of Jeff Nichol's work? I've heard writers and actors describe his screenplays as "perfect." They say no changes were needed during production. I am biased. I love all his movies.
Thanks for mentioning Jeff Nichol, Beth. I haven't seen his work yet. What's a good screenplay to start with from him?
Do you want to be a pro writer in Hollywood? Get an assistant job. Become a script supervisor. Eventually, get a job as a staff writer. Improve your craft while you grow your network. Or go the indie route. Write and shoot a fantastic short film. No agent is going to read your stuff if you have no credits. The competition route is another real but very unlikely option. Only a handful of pro writers broke in thanks to a competition.
Ultimately film as a visual art. Look at the list of the best films of all time and then the list of the best screenplays of all time. The list is not the same
Guys I have a comic book story that I am currently writing right now. My working title is "The Art Thief". Can I ask you guys if that title is a bit goofy or not? :/ Thanks
It is a bit goofy
It may sound goofy but that depends, is that what you are going for? Because you may find it works for the story you want to tell
Title reminds me of the Thomas Crown Affair
LoL. I was holding onto that working title for 4months of writing the script. Now I have an open brain to change it to something cooler. Thanks
@@michaelwright8568 The Thief of Art. (Not being funny, it's a better Title)
Can I read one of your scripts?
The only one publicly available at the moment is the one in the description of the 48 hr Screenplay challenge. Here is link to vid:
ua-cam.com/video/xoUUdjyM9Oo/v-deo.html
So hard to find people at an affordable price to review your screenplays. I have a few readers I do work for in exchange for their notes but the notes often aren't detailed enough or are too complimentary.
I’m lucky that I few good friends that can review my screenplays for a little price.
do you play dungeon and dragons
This feels exactly like the publishing industry. People always talk about agent-querying, and how difficult it is. In all likelyhood their novel isn't ready for querying yet. And then thousands of authors choose self publishing instead.
That's why I hate people making their own films. As if the world needs hundreds of thousands of more bad movies made for 7.00. Yuck.
@@dangoudreau7366 Exactly. Same with books.
@@Paaseliten yeah. I miss the concept of Editors. Millennials and beyond won't even know what an Editor is. We will have to explain to them that in the olden days, the Editor would decide if your drivel was ready to bore the public or if you were somehow a savant of a writer and he/she might see potential and push you to do rewrite after rewrite and when he/she feels your work is publishable, then it gets seen by others. Without Editors, everyone can publish anything, and with every hit of a send button, somewhere in the corridors of eternity, Baby Jesus cries himself to sleep.
@@dangoudreau7366 Well put!
@@Paaseliten Margrete, are you in the publishing world? Literary Manager? Are you experienced with the world of screenplays? If so, I'm working on a first 15 pages of a femal-led tour de force of a film about female siblings at odds running a styrofoam plant in 1990 as the Green Movement spreads.
You seem like a nice kid but I think you are underestimating how condescending you sound here.
Here's the reality -- there's no such thing as a elite screenwriter, which is what you seem to be implying -- there might be a elite threshold for understanding story, but a screenplay is just a interpretation of that -- the threshold of screenplay craft on a technical level maxes out very early, and studying storytelling and how it works is a perpetual pursuit, but you're also going to get massive diminishing returns on it. The reality of making Chinatown, or Pulp Fiction, or whatever is this --- having a incredibly unique and interesting writing style and yes, getting in at the right place at the right time.
Great ❤️ video
"Three friends, after accidentally shooting stranger, creates a false video evidence to claim self-defense"
Shooting ri8 now! Tell me if it's interesting enough, & will you watch it when it gets done?
Sounds interesting. Would definitely read/watch.
Would watch 10/10
Totally want to see
would watch
I would 100% watch this, make it!
There are also plenty of scripts out there that were knocked out of the park first draft created by one person. Sometimes getting outside feedback will kill the script.
Yes because it is art. And if it works if works. A screenwriting coach would have killed punch drunk love, Breathless, Chungking Express, etc
The manner of speech of everybody in the world-held strange, elusive complexities, intricately presented with overtones of vagueness: I have always been baffled by these precautions so strict as to be useless, and by the intensely irritating little maneuvers surrounding them. In the end I have felt past caring; I have laughed them away with my clowning, or surrendered to them abjectly with a silent nod of the head, in the attitude of defeat.
The fuck are you talking about
@@Serocco I can never forget the indescribably crafty shadow that passed over Anthony Interiano's face as he laughed at me, his neck drawn in. "What the fuck are you talking about?" It resembled contempt, yet it was different: if the world, like the sea, had depths of a thousand fathoms, this was the kind of weird shadow which might be found hovering here and there at the bottom. It was a laugh which enabled me to catch a glimpse of the very nadir of adult life.
Why do most commercial films have such mediocre, derivative writing? How do they make it through? There's a million reasons for that. One is that even if you have a "perfect" sell ready script, whoever buys it will put it through the wringer with many changes, just so they can turn the script into a derivative mediocrity. The best scripts are usually the ones that don't get made into movies or don't even get sold in the first place.
Try not to say "right" 38 times a video, you'll sound more credible. Right?
What’s with the amount of hate towards Tyler in this comment section? Keep up the great advice my guy!
These are normally the vids that get hate, I think. It doesn't mean that Tyler's a bad writer/critic/editor, it's just that we haven't seen work from him that would show that his paid services will be worth it. He doesn't even need to have an original script, just proof that he's a professional or something.
@@pong6377 on his screenwriting course bio he says he worked at a script reader for a fairly successful company.
@@aiden______ is there any proof with that? Or is it just his own statement?
@@pong6377 I couldn't say but I have faith he's not that bad of a person to completely lie.
In any YT video (any channel) where someone is telling writers what they might be doing wrong, the replies are often full of insecure comments, like 'what has he/she written??', as if advice is invalidated by popularity. Even when it's someone who has/had a successful career, the comments are calling them a hack, overrated, achieved success because of who they know, 'that doesn't apply to how I write', or 'but what about [insert name] who/says/does/proved the opposite with [exception]?'
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Tyler has no references he is a newbie and tries you to sell his own course. It is a making money strategy and you will learn crap from him. It works like a placebo you think you making progress but really you only learn techniques which are not worth to learn and also brings you up from learning your own style of creating new ideas and stories. He only made 1 script, he has not won any Filmfestival/Oscar etc. It is the same for most of the courses. You do not need any paid courses to get good in writing. Do not listen to this bullshit!!!
Poopoo man plays on insecurities of other people to get them to buy his course.
Not really. It's just a harsh truth for the vast majority of writers that you need objective feedback about your work to know what weaknesses you have in your writing. Sure, he has a course that can help provide that type of feedback, but he's not playing on people's insecurities. Most writers are insecure enough. He's speaking more to the people who are a little blind to the glaring problems in their manuscripts, the people who ARE confident in their writing but need a little wake-up call/reminder that there is still work to do if they want to make it in the industry.
Hell will freeze over before I listen to this punk.
Salesmanship.
@@davidstorme8748 thats literally only your loss. no one loses anything from that besides you.