It seems like RS had a plan of selling a new shock or fork waiting a few years, then come out with another one, while coming out with a perfectly timed up grade kit. My buddy just bought a ZEB ultimate v3, and then they just came out with the new color v3.1 while coming out with a v3.1 kit for 75 bucks for all the older models. Then if you want the complete kit fir the v3 it's over 300 bucks. It's pretty clever, and will probably be a huge profit model for them.
So the $360 Charger 3.1 damper assembly is a much easier install, where as the Charger 3.1 piston upgrade is far more affordable at $75, but it does involve more of a complete rebuild to install. So both options will fit into your friends Charger 3 equipped fork, its just a matter of how involved he want's to get to make the upgrade. I'm sure he snagged the Charger 3 fork at a steep discount too. Just a matter of how much work you want to put into making the upgrade!
The new one has the "touchdown" tech that basically removes damping for the first 10%. I'm mine getting my super deluxe coil updated to the new new reservoir with the new damping and eventually I will make a video to say if it's worth it or not.
Hi great video. I have the Kenevo Expert 2022 with the stock basic RS super delux air, do you know if the new vivid air would clear the frame on full compression and if the vivid coil has the same diameter as the vivid air can? Thanks
Will you be able to upgrade the 2023 super deluxe ultimate coil to the touchdown tech, basically making it a vivid? It's in the body of the shock not the piggyback correct? The 2023 SDU coil had the same piggyback (RC2T) or am I looking at the images on SRAMs website wrong
Unfortunately at this point you can't purchase the Touchdown damper internals to upgrade your current SD coil to Vivid coil. There is an updated piggy back that you can throw on a SD coil, but that wont' get you Touchdown. TD is happening inside the shock body and not currently available aftermarket to make that upgrade
SDU coil didn’t fit my 205x65 trunion Wild because the HBO canister sits too far above the shock body and interferes with my frame. Does the Vivid coil HBO structure appear to be similarly situated?
@@ethanrevitch welp i searched high and low and finally found a 230x65 for $550. wish that i'd found a sale!! believe me, i looked all over the stores. i think i actually got mine from fanatik 😆
So the Meg neg was a larger negative airchamber, where the new air can is a larger positive air chamber. The meg neg gave you more mid-stroke support where this XL air can will give you a more linear feel, so more "coil-like" feel for your airshock
I have the super deluxe ultimate on my levo no problems, Even says on their website it's compatible. I would imagine the vivid coil would be the same, since it looks the same.
Just got that xl air can. No breakdown anywhere of where the plastic bands go? Im assuming the outer sleeve comes off the main air can because there is an o ring there...but i tried everything today, and it wont budge. Now i have no clue what to do and of course tomorrow is a holiday so wont be able to reach out to anyone for answers til friday. Bummer.
Rock Shox does a pretty good job of having very through service manuals and they touch on the XL air can in there and how to get the bands in. www.sram.com/globalassets/document-hierarchy/service-manuals/rockshox/rear-suspension/2023-super-deluxe-service-manual.pdf Page 48 in the service guide will get you sorted
Great review!!!
It seems like RS had a plan of selling a new shock or fork waiting a few years, then come out with another one, while coming out with a perfectly timed up grade kit. My buddy just bought a ZEB ultimate v3, and then they just came out with the new color v3.1 while coming out with a v3.1 kit for 75 bucks for all the older models. Then if you want the complete kit fir the v3 it's over 300 bucks.
It's pretty clever, and will probably be a huge profit model for them.
So the $360 Charger 3.1 damper assembly is a much easier install, where as the Charger 3.1 piston upgrade is far more affordable at $75, but it does involve more of a complete rebuild to install. So both options will fit into your friends Charger 3 equipped fork, its just a matter of how involved he want's to get to make the upgrade. I'm sure he snagged the Charger 3 fork at a steep discount too.
Just a matter of how much work you want to put into making the upgrade!
Great video
Do you guys know how i can make the difference between the old coil spring and the new one ?
Thank
The new one has the "touchdown" tech that basically removes damping for the first 10%. I'm mine getting my super deluxe coil updated to the new new reservoir with the new damping and eventually I will make a video to say if it's worth it or not.
Is there a video on setting up the touchdown?
Hi great video. I have the Kenevo Expert 2022 with the stock basic RS super delux air, do you know if the new vivid air would clear the frame on full compression and if the vivid coil has the same diameter as the vivid air can? Thanks
Hey Rich, how does the coil feel on the dread v2 compared to the air?
Loving that Vivid Coil on the Dreadnought. Felling nice and plush! I think I prefer it over the air.
25lb increment springs have been available for a while
@tradietom they’ve been available for about a year, I’ve had a 375 rockshox spring for months.
@@MasterChronometer and MRP + EXT springs fit RS
Hi, do you have any information on Vivid coil's compatibility with other coil springs, such as Cane Creek or Fox?
Does this fit the Norco Range high pivot?
Nice. When will rockshox ship the XL Air Cans to the shops?
We should be seeing them in a few weeks
Will you be able to upgrade the 2023 super deluxe ultimate coil to the touchdown tech, basically making it a vivid? It's in the body of the shock not the piggyback correct? The 2023 SDU coil had the same piggyback (RC2T) or am I looking at the images on SRAMs website wrong
Unfortunately at this point you can't purchase the Touchdown damper internals to upgrade your current SD coil to Vivid coil. There is an updated piggy back that you can throw on a SD coil, but that wont' get you Touchdown. TD is happening inside the shock body and not currently available aftermarket to make that upgrade
@@FanatikBikeCo ok thanks
SDU coil didn’t fit my 205x65 trunion Wild because the HBO canister sits too far above the shock body and interferes with my frame. Does the Vivid coil HBO structure appear to be similarly situated?
so the SDU coil is discontinued? no wonder it's so damn hard to find..
Yup. They've been on sale for months now.
Yep moving forward it will be the Vivid Coil as the coil offering from RS.
@@ethanrevitch welp i searched high and low and finally found a 230x65 for $550. wish that i'd found a sale!! believe me, i looked all over the stores. i think i actually got mine from fanatik 😆
How does the XL air can differ from the MegNeg?
So the Meg neg was a larger negative airchamber, where the new air can is a larger positive air chamber. The meg neg gave you more mid-stroke support where this XL air can will give you a more linear feel, so more "coil-like" feel for your airshock
vivid coil on turbo levo yay or nay?
I have the super deluxe ultimate on my levo no problems, Even says on their website it's compatible. I would imagine the vivid coil would be the same, since it looks the same.
should fit no problem!
I thought this was a Rockshox Vivid coil overview?
At the 3:38 mark we start diving into the new Vivid and its features
Just got that xl air can. No breakdown anywhere of where the plastic bands go? Im assuming the outer sleeve comes off the main air can because there is an o ring there...but i tried everything today, and it wont budge. Now i have no clue what to do and of course tomorrow is a holiday so wont be able to reach out to anyone for answers til friday. Bummer.
Rock Shox does a pretty good job of having very through service manuals and they touch on the XL air can in there and how to get the bands in.
www.sram.com/globalassets/document-hierarchy/service-manuals/rockshox/rear-suspension/2023-super-deluxe-service-manual.pdf
Page 48 in the service guide will get you sorted
25 pounds! I love it!
Do we know if the Linear XL can be compatible with the older gen B2 Superdeluxe? (2021 model)
No it will only be compatible with C1 and C2 gen Super Deluxe
My new and unridden SDU coil is now obsolete. 🙂 jk