How to produce uncapped nano silver 60 ppm
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- Опубліковано 29 чер 2019
- This video aims at showing a simple way to produce 60 ppm uncapped nano silver, using readily available equipment and ingredients.
Methods and formulas credits to the CGCS Forum (W.G. Peters a.k.a. Kephra). - Наука та технологія
Great video, Marc. I know you did not mean to bring about such result, but I now feel encouraged to revise my whole cs manufacturing procedure in its entirety. These detailed step-by-step instructions are priceless for amateurs like me. Thank you for your diligence.
Thank you. It makes sense, yes. I generally produce at higher ppm to save time and storage space, and dilute to 20 or 30 ppm only prior to use. It is good to start with the two-step process first, though, to understand better the various aspects of the process.
Came over from cgcsforum to have a look, very nice set-up.
Thanks, Phun, I consider this a basic setup if you want to run several processes with reasonable quality. Anything less will adversely affect the quality of your end product. In the meantime I have upgraded with a water distiller, as I was paying too much for my distilled water.
Thank you. I've learned something about my store baught generator,
I didn't know yellowing was normal. All bottles of colloidial silver I've had are clear water colour. I freaked when my silver went yellow but he assured me this was ok and normal, you just proved it to be true.
Yes correct, ionic silver solutions will partially reduce when exposed to any type of energy, light, heat, radiation, ultrasound… This is why ionic silver should be stored in cool dark places.
Good job. Thks by your experiencie. !!
The TDS meter is used to measure concentration of silver ions or silver nanoparticles.??
hi, do you think it will work if i do this: i want to get a 2200 ohm resistor to limit the current of my 12volt/1amp DC wall power adapter down to 5mA? what are your thoughts?
The problem with a wall adapter is that it will give you a fixed output. As the resistance of the cell will vary during the process you should use an adaptable power source. Another problem is that 12V is very close to the limit, it would be better to work with a 24V or 32V power source.
When producing the electrolyte with sodium carbonate, what is the ph of the solution? I'm not sure if you added this to the video but many milliliters (mL) of the electrolyte did you put in the 1 liter of distilled water? Thank you.
Israel, I have set up my electrodes so that I can add around 18-20 drops of electrolyte to reach a fixed current of 15 mA. The pH is around 10-10,5 on the reader. My water (steam distilled spring water) is alkaline by itself.
Great video, this got me excited and motivated to up my CS! I’m trying to reproduce this. Have you change anything? What about about using a current limiter?
Thanks! You should change as little as possible, but if you have good results, you can experiment with different reducing agents and higher concentrations. Using a current limiter is a good alternative, as long as you monitor that the voltage stays above 10V
Good job. !
Hi Marc, can you please let me know where I can purchase all the equipments you use to produce silver. Thanks
Hi Dario, I live in Brazil, and I purchased all equipment online in electronics stores and specialized stores for lab equipment.
Hi, I just have a question, how did you connect the multimeter ? Thanks.
There is a specific video here about the multimeter setup: ua-cam.com/video/L2xpw-sRJ5U/v-deo.html
Marc, is it worth the investment to get a hot plate stirrer? I’m trying to find more info on how temperature effects the process. Appreciate all of your help.
Michael, if you consider producing higher ppm CS, especially capped CS that requires higher temperatures and production times of several hours, a hotplate with magnetic stirrer is very convenient, and will certainly add to the quality of your CS.
ola amigo, pode falar um pouco sobre o pq do da glucose de milho e a quantidade para 1 litro de agua ? muito obrigado e parabens pelo excelnte trabalho ! abraço, alex.
Alex, boa tarde! A glucose de milho é um agente redutor da prata iônica muito eficiente e seguro e fácil de achar. A redução faz com que os íons de prata se transformam em nano particulas de prata. Diluimos 1 g de xarope de glicose numa quantidade igual de água destilada e aplicamos na água de prata (iônica) na proporção de 20 gotas para cada 20 ppm (20 mg de prata em 1 loitro de água). Não há problema em adicionar um pouco mais por segurança.
Very cool brother
Hello Marc.. I've been around doing experiment on CS production.. One I noticed is better to heat up the distilled water until 80 degrees Celcius. And then set the current and voltage to get 15 mA current. One that I need to ask is the product still 60ppm after one hour?
One more the product is tea amber colored.. And if it exposed to Sunshine within an hour it becomes dark Grey no longer retain the plasmon effect. Is it still usable or it's tainted?
Hi Damian, if you use heat for reduction (and a reduction agent) you are putting too much energy into the system. In my experience, the best results can be obtained with room temperature conditions (heating to 30-35°C) and a reduction agent, no light. If the CS loses color (yellow to tea to coffee color depending on the concentration), it has become useless becasue it is no longer a nano silver colloid.
@@marctinkelenberg Thanks for your Reply... I tried temperature 30-35 degrees Celcius... And it didn't work for me... From what I read, in Wikipedia. Water conductivity rises towards temperature. And within 80 degrees Celcius, I can have around 18-21 Volts at stable 15 mA current. After an hour I get similar result as yours.. Amber colour colloidal Silver. I want to increase production rate.. What do you suggest? Is it gonna be 5 litres a batch and 5 hours process. Or you prefer separate magnetic stirrer with 1 litre beaker glass set up and many power supply?
@@damianmalik92 Whatever works for you, but with the correct amount of sodium carbonate and reducing agent, there should not be any issues, so there seems to be something wrong with your process. Scaling up electrodissolution is not so easy, as larger containers need larger equipment too, and like I already said, uncapped CS cannot be produced in concentrations over 60 ppm. Observe the stability over time: Correctly produced CS should remain stable, even in sunlight, for months to years.
Thank you Marc! Can I use Natrium Bicarbonate? (Baking powder) (Arms & Hammer) Greetings, Patrick
Hi Patrick, it would be better to use Arms & Hammer washing soda, but if you can only get your hand on baking soda, you can cook it in the oven to convert it into sodium carbonate: Put the baking soda in a thin, evenly spread out layer on a tin form and cook it at 200 °C (400 °F) for about 40 minutes to an hour. Let it cool and it's ready for use, and can be stored indefinitely.
@@marctinkelenberg THX!
Hi Marc. Thank you for video. Should adding baking soda increase the particle size of silver ion?
First of all it is washing soda (sodium carbonate) not baking soda. Secondly, slver ions, for being one single atom, all have the same size, so the washing soda does not have any effect on the silver ions size.
@@marctinkelenberg Thank you for clarification. I was just curious whether impact on current on particle size will be significant as it was mentioned in this paper (i don't have an access to it so just refer to abstract section) pubs.acs.org/doi/full/10.1021/jp001761r
@@asafsirin1614 This article describes the reduction of silver ions during electrodissolution, in that case it is true that current density (This is current divided by surface area) should be limited. If you add too much energy to the cell (including heat), too much agglomeration will take place.
Boa noite, vi um comentário seu no vídeo do zymon sobre a prata coloidal. Gostaria de saber se vc tem algum curso de como aprender a produzir a nano prata. Obrigado
Mamãe Perfeita Oficial Boa noite, curso não tenho não. Os meus fontes são todos na lingua inglesa, por isso traduzi os videos deste canal em português no meu canal Lua Verde: ua-cam.com/channels/ndl2kEopoYuzZA3ipNG1Aw.html. Também tem o meu site lua-verde.com com algumas informações sobre a prata.
@Marc Tinkelenberg
Hi Marc,great video. i'm looking to buy a power supply for making colloids, i want the smallest possible colloidal particles, is it better to buy a linear power supply over a switch mode power supply due to less ripple or noise? Thanks
Hi Bart, though I am not entirely sure, I don’t believe it would much difference, as the electrodissolution is a “brute force” technique, where the quality of the current is not so important.
@@marctinkelenberg
Hi Marc, thanks for your reply. I read that most switch mode power supply's have a ripple effect of about 1 or 2 mA. Is it more important to have good voltage stability,or current stability? I also read online that silver starts it's electrodissolusion at 240 microamp, so my thinking is that it is more important to have a clean current with silver than say for instance, gold or platina. What's your tought on this? Thanks again for your video's Marc,there by far the best out there for making silver!
@@bartverleysen999 You want to have better amperage output stability, but if you work with some type of agitation, the water level will fluctuate, and the voltage and current also. That is why we put a multimeter in series to measure the actual current running through the cell. As I generally try to keep the current around 15 mA, I can accept a fluctuation of 1mA without problem.
Would not buy over the counter I make my own and have even improved on the best process my researching uncover. I use strong magnets placed next to silver rod on outside of containers to eliminate the dross and need to filter. This also makes it easier to get a higher ppm in much less time.
Then put it through ūltraslonic cleanér to reduce particle size further and photo and enlarge the ebner effect laser test with my phone to better observe particle size and uniformity...
Add this to your methods and let me kno your results, it drastically improved mine. Ppm on last batch was 165 in little more than an hour
Kenneth, you propose some great improvements, indeed. I have been looking at building a custom ultrasonic rod but I found it too expensive for now. Ultrasonic cleaner pads may be a good alternative. Have you tested your CS for particle size to evaluate this improvement?
I am not sure about the magnets, though, how would this work? As Silver and Silver oxide are not magnetic, how would this affect the process?
as you said if we apply 5 ma on silver wire, 20 mg of silver ions will released , but if we using silver bars or coins instead of wire, will the value changed ??
Hi gr8news, this calculation is the same for any anode size. If you use a larger anode you could increase the current (current density more or less 1 mA per square inch submerged anode surface area). Increasing the current you would release more silver ions in the samevamount of time.
Hello, what form of colloidal silver between capped or nano would you use to tackle an infection in the nervous system such as nerves and brain? In what way would you use it: nasal spray, under the tongue, nebulizer, or ingest? Thank you.
Hi Israel, I have no medical knowledge to recommend CS for this type of infection. In general, the most effective way to use CS is in uncapped form used directly on the site of the infection. For systemic infections, generally the best option is gelatin capped CS taken orally in high concentrations. As a rule of thumb, you should ingest at least 150 ml of 120 ppm or 1 litre of 20 ppm spread out over a period of 2 days.
@@marctinkelenberg Thank you Marc. Happy Thanksgiving. 😀
Other question : The process that you recommend in the video is to produce only silver ions or also to produce metallic silver nanoparticles.?? Personally, I am interested in producing colloidal silver or copper in which silver or copper ions predominate, as appropriate.
The addition of glucose causes the silver ions to reduce to nano silver particles. If you don’t add glucose, nor heat or light, you can produce ionic silver in solution up to 20-25 ppm.
@@marctinkelenberg Thks by your comments.!!!
In your video you say you ad 5.3 g of washing soda but your scale reads .300 which is it? Sorry I’m confused
Yeah good point. My microscale is limited to 5 grams, so I added an additional 0,3 grams,
IS there an advantage to adding the RA at the start of the process? I have only seen people add a RA after ionic solution is complete.
For higher ppm it is essential that the RA is added during the process to circumvent the limit of around 25 ppm for silver ions dissolved in water. By reducing part of the ions during the process, more ions can be released without precipitating as silver oxide.
@@marctinkelenberg thanks for the clarification. So much misinformation out there on CS. 99% of the DIYers are making ionic silver thinking they have CS. Great video BTW!
@@joephu Thanks! And yes my goal is to get better information out there about the process of generating high quality home made CS.
I want to produce high concentrations like 2 to 3 grams in a 250ml beaker, which reducing and stabilizing agent can I use for this purpose? I read that tannic acid is good but I have to add more than 20 grams to it and I don't know if it's harmful to health
I am not sure there is any practical purpose to produce 8000 ppm CS, and in my experience this cannot be achieved with Low Voltage CS production. I routinely produce 240 ppm gelatine capped CS, and it could be extended to 1000 ppm using the same method, but above that I am not sure you would be able to produce a high quality, stable product, unless using strong stabilizers that would prejudice the quality of the CS.
One question: This process is the same to produce colloidal copper.??
I have no experience with colloidal copper, but the process is basically the same yes.
Thanks for the very detailed video! Do you happen to know what the dose would be for internal use? Not necessarily a systemic dose but a dose needed for H Pylori? .I found studies that say it is very effective in eradicating this bacteria.. Although there are many studies that show the beneficial effects, doctors still discredit colloidal silver, which they confuse with ionic silver or with the oxide, silver hydroxide.

H. Pylori is difficult to treat, even with silver. In case of resistant bacteria, you would need to ingest high doses of gelatin capped CS, not the uncapped of this video. A protocol I generally use for systemic infections is 150ml of 120ppm capped CS taken in doses of 20ml in between meals, during 2-3 days, then wait a week and repeat the same. It is also recommended to take probiotics with prolonged use of CS. 150ml of 120 ppm translates to 18 mg of silver. So if you would ingest 20 ppm CS, you would need to ingest almost 1 litre. Note that this is a minimum effective dose.
@@marctinkelenberg Thank you for the answer and for the calculations! The systemic dose is calculated according to the amount of lymph and blood? I hope it will also have a topical effect! Considering that the bacteria is in the stomach lining, but I know that there are some folds where the medicine does not reach, that's why of course they prescribe the systemic dose. But in combination with other therapies, even those based on plants, they could reduce the number of colonies if not eliminate them completely.. In the study I was talking about, they succeeded in completely eradicating the bacteria in infected rats, with colloidal silver size 15, but they didn't talk about the concentration or I wasn't paying attention, they only mentioned 16 mg/kilogram... If it's about 16 mg of metallic silver, it means a dose of 1 gram for an adult 😵.. I will read the study more carefully.. Thank you again. For now I don't have any set up but I will buy some ionic silver of higher concentration which I will try to convert to nanoparticles according to your method...
@@Newlife-ol6pk The dosage indeed is aimed at maintaining a minimum bactericidal concentration in the blood. It is always better to apply silver directly in the affected area, but this can be difficult to achieve. Experiments in vitro or in mice should be regarded with caution, as scientist are generally unconcerned with collateral damage or even death of the animals.
Hi Marc,
Thank you for detailed preparation of colloidal silver. I have been trying to put some maths together and strengths of solution. I can buy nano silver here bottled in brown bottles in the UK but, it is only 14ppm instead of buying the entire kit - magnetic stirrer and heater, beaker, silver and of course the storage glass.
Is this any good for oral use?
I know long term it works out cheaper, but it a question of getting my finances in order too.
I would appreciate your feedback in regards to the above. Thanks again.
Hi Shapie, without knowing the product it is hard to say it is any good. Also, it is important to know what you want to use it for (topical, nebulizing, ingestion… As far as I know, capped CS for ingestion is not available commercially, thats why most people produce it themselves. For incidental use, buying your own equipment is a bit expensive. I produce for others, too and for resale, in that case it pays itself back in a short time.
@@marctinkelenberg Thank you Marc, that is very much appreciated. Best wishes to you and your family.
Great video. Is capped silver safe for nebulising and ingesting? I mainly nebulise. I'm currently using AgNP I bought, I make ionic silver but it doesn't have the same effectiveness as the AgNP.
@@mayday236 Thanks! You should never use capped CS to nebulize, as your lungs do not contain the enzymes that would break down the gelatin or other proteins. As a result, the effect would be minimal, and gelatin residue would accumulate in the lungs over time. I exclusively use glucose reduced, uncapped 20 ppm CS for nebulizing.
@@marctinkelenberg I have just seen your reply to the above question. So is 20ppm of CS alright for oral ingestion then. This should 'clean' up from the inside should it not?
Hello Mark, how clean do you get water in your still, do you use a carbon filter?
I bought a still, and the maximum purity I achieved was 2 ppm, with or without a carbon filter. I tried to make silver from it, but it turned out terribly dark. In general, the water tastes bitter and smells of spotting. I distilled 10 liters, I also tried distilling the same water twice and the same thing. And one more question: will demineralized water with a purity of 0 ppm be suitable?
smells of plastic
I still have a problem with the electrolysis itself, it is difficult for me to enter the C.C. mode due to a short circuit, and if I succeed, over time, during the process, I have to immerse the wire deeper and deeper because the power supply switches from the C.C. mode. Recently I had to submerge it by about 2cm-2.5cm.
I use a steam distiller with carbon filter, and use well water. I generally have a 0.0 ppm reading on the TDS meter.
@@elobelosolo8999 It is easier to achieve higher Voltage with constant current if you use a larger anode and a smaller cathode. I use a 1 oz silver bar and a 2mm steel wire as a cathode, immersed just barely.
Please explain how your mutimeter is wired to your rig to achieve your reading.
Juniorlabs, in order to place your multimeter in series, you have to connect it in the following way:
PS Positive+>------->Meter Positive(+)
Meter Negative(-)>------>Silver Anode
PS Negative>-----> Cathode
Marc, para produzir o coloidal silver é somente água destilada e o silver?
Fiquei confusa, sou nova nesse negócio, pois falei contigo na página do Facebook.
Pois vi em outros grupos q se adicionado sal, ode ser perigoso.
E estes CS q compramos tipo o sovereign silver os ingredientes são apenas água destilada e silver.
Poderia me explicar?
Obrigada.
Monica, para produzir prata coloidal (nano prata) de qualidade, precisa adicionar um eletrólito (carbonato de sódio) e uma agente redutor (glicose, amido solúvel, citrato de sódio, etc.). Esses videos traduzi em português no canal da Lua Verde:
ua-cam.com/channels/ndl2kEopoYuzZA3ipNG1Aw.html?view_as=subscriber
so when consuming this colloidal silver we also consume corn syrup?. if so can i use honey instead?
Sure, honey is an excellent reducing agent as well as capping agent. I don’t use it because the composition can vary so much.
so which is more effective at killing viruses or binding to them ,capped or uncapped nano silver?
(given they both have the same ppm)
Garrosh, it depends on the location where you want to kill virus. Coronavirus being an airborne contamination can be effectively combated using nasal spray, mouth spray and nebulizers. In all cases, uncapped CS should be used. If you want to kill virus in the GIT or bloodstream, you have to use capped CS.
@@marctinkelenberg in the body is where i aim to kill it.. that way the body has already started production of antibodies which will in turn avoid the next covid infection.. using both capped and uncapped colloidal silver will just be there as insurrance of virus elimination.
THANKS!
Hello and thanks again for this info,
I know that you estimate the ppms by Faraday’s Law and color but have you ever submitted one of your samples to a Lab for testing to verify your results?
If not I think that you need a photospectrometer to test CS.
I have tried to have samples lab tested at two universities, but so far without success. It is not easy to find a testing facility here in Brazil. Having said that, I have never found a real need to test the CS, because: 1. Faraday's law is considered to be fairly reliable, 2. Color tests are very consistent and 3. clinical results are undeniable, so it is clear that the produced particle size is effective against bacteria, fungus and virus.
@@marctinkelenberg
Thank you very much for the info,
I mostly want to get mine tested to verify that my setup and method are accurate.
Even though Faraday's law is accurate, I've been told if you brew to long or not in the right way the silver may not be in suspension in the water and end up sinking to the bottom, like when you brew and the silver rod gets black fuzz on it, I've been told that this will take away from the silver that is floating in the water and decrease the ppm's
@@troy5659 Correct, and that is why it is important to run the process in a well defined manner, so that these unwanted side effects ate eliminated or minimized.
I put one gram of sodium carbonate in a glass of distilled water and after stirring I checked the PPM with a tester that is normally used to test silver water and it tested 450 PPM. I had a two-quart container of silver water that I had made that tested 25 PPM. I added one gram of sodium carbonate to the silver water and after stirring it checked 850 PPM. I don't know much about chemistry, but the 60 PPM silver water that the video advertises might not actually be 60 PPM. The tester seems to only test the conductivity of the water, so the results are definitely skewed by adding the sodium carbonate as in the video.
As you might note in the video, we do not use a TDS meter for testing ppm, because nano silver is not detected by a TDS meter, as they are not dissolved ions. We estimate the ppm by Faraday’s Law and color, so from comparison and experience we are pretty sure it is in the 60 ppm range.
I really appreciate your efforts may I ask you about the distance between anode and cathode nanosilver....are there any rules thanks in advance
Mohamed, thanks. There are no fixed rules for the distance, it depends on the size and shape of your container. Keep the electrodes away from the side, at 4-6cm apart from each other and you should be ok.
@@marctinkelenberg thanks for your concern
Love the video. Everything just delivered. How many drops of sodium carbonate into 1000ml? Thanks for your time and effort.
20 drops per liter, no matter what ppm you will produce.
Can you provide me with what you bought I want to do the same as this, but I’ve always used generators bought online like the silvergen one. But times are rough and I want to get more serious about producing high quality CS
Thanks for amazing work please tell me how we put drop of washing soda
Thanks! The washing soda should be diluted in distilled water, 5,3g in 50ml of water, and I use a glass dropper tube to add the drops to the water, around 10-15 drops per liter.
5,3 ?
Mark one question, and i know this is basic, but im not expert. To keep the current about 15mA you use the multimeter, how are the red and black cables from the multimeter connected to the electrolysis system and with the PSU without making a short circuit, sorry if its a stupid question, all of this is really new to me.
The current is controlled by the power supply on the left - the lower LCD shows 0.011 Amps - this is set by one of the knobs. Whereas the top LCD shows the set voltage.
As the power supply is not very accurate, the multimeter is showing roughly 15 mAh flowing across the electrodes rather than 11, as indicated on the display.
As for your question, the red and black leads of the multimeter are wired in a passthrough configuration on either the positive or negative connections of the electrodes, so that the multimeter can measure the current during processing.
PS. there are no stupid questions, though this setup may prove daunting for beginners, as it requires that they gain an understanding of the electrical setup as well as process theory - that said, and should you have any questions, please don't hesitate to ask, and I will do my best to provide the answers
Felipe, I guess you understand portuguese? I have a video on my portuguese channel explaining this: ua-cam.com/video/g32EhuBIaTU/v-deo.html
@@marctinkelenberg I speak spanish Mark but with that linked provided by you i think i understand how must be done, thanks for your kindness.
@@smalltimer4370 Thanks for taking the time to answer.
Thanks for the great vid and info, Marc! I got just received the same power supply as yours but cannot for the life of me get the voltage to go higher than 4v if I were to keep the amps at 14ma and if I set the voltage @17v the amperage automatically shoots up to almost 1 amp would you please let me know how you were able to keep the voltage at 17 yet the amperage at 14ma? Because of the high amperage I ended up with a very gray, dark solution that looks like a mix of "Aliens" and "the abyss" on my first attempt to make nano silver :)
Don't get desperate, it is normal to have to do some adjustments to the process to get it right. I would need to know all details of your setup: Did you use distilled water? What did you use as anode and cathode, how much were they submerged in the water, and how far apart?
You should keep cathode and anode about 6 cm apart, and if your voltage is too low, you should raise your cathode so it is only slightly submerged. Also, start without any electrolyte (sodium carbonate) and observe how much amperage raises when you add a few drops.
@@marctinkelenberg Thanks for your reply! Both the anode and cathode were almost 90 % submerged since I'm using copper alligator clips and not worried about it leashing into the solution. I'll try submerging the cathode only slightly next time. They were about 5 cm apart. Are you saying to not add the whole 20 drops of the electrolyte all at once but to do it gradually as I observe the amperage? After adding the electrolyte I tested the solution with a TDS meter and it jumped to about 160 ppm, is that about right? The final solution after one hour was very gray and dark. Could that be because of the high amperage? Also, I made 2 liters so I ended up doubling the number of drops of the electrolyte and reducing agent. Is that right or should I have stayed at only 20 drops of electrolyte instead of 40?
@@kalsal2112 Yoiu could add the elctrolyte drop by drop, just to see the effect, but yes you need to add all the 20 drops for a litre. When using 2 litres you should double the amount, yes. The TDS meter is useless if you use additives, so you can only use it to measure the purity of the distilled water. The grey color is probably an indication of the high amperage, yes, but can also be contaminants. You probably produced silver ions way over the maximum solubility (~25 ppm) so it will precipitate as grey silver oxide.
@@marctinkelenberg Good to know and thanks again for sharing your knowledge! I'll try it in a few days making the adjustments you suggested and hopefully that will work.
Where can you buy this dc adjustable power source, should i just get a cheap one off Amazon? I’m trying to get the same equipment as in the video. Thanks great video by the way!
Hello Marc!
Can you discuss the reasons why one would take capped vs uncapped silver?
Hi Vigilence, the main reason to use capped CS is to treat infections inside the body that can only be reached via the gastrointestinal tract or the blood stream, i.e. by ingesting CS. Uncapped CS is largely destroyed by gastric acid, whereas capped CS is protected from the strong acid. Uncapped CS, on the other hand should be used for stomach upset, nasal spray and nebulizing, because the nano silver particles need to be in direct contact with the bacteria.
@@marctinkelenberg That makes a lot of sense, thank you for explaining!
My first and second batch turned muddy and brownish color....what did I do wrong?
There can be many reasons, generally water quality, dirty beaker or utensils, or too low voltage or too high amperage.
What is the suitable polymer instead of corn syrup ?
Mohammed, I would not add any polymers to your CS, I guess you mean polysaccharides! You can add a wide variety of mono or polysaccharides, such as can be found in natural honey, many plant extracts, tea, Aloé vera, maltodextrose.
Hey, so I genuinely have no knowledge with regard to electrical schematics, components, or technical knowledge. I am honestly hoping to just mimic someone's setup, but as you know the cscgforum is pretty technical.
Do you have a current limiter in your setup that I am not seeing? The forum speaks a lot of LM317 limiter, do you use this in the video presented?
Hi David, the only reason to use a current limiter is if you use a fixed power source, that provides too high a current. If you use an adjustable power source with constant current feature, as I do, there is no need for a current limiter.
Marc, incredible turnaround time on that reply!!
So I was under the impression that the power bench had no accurate way of telling you the current that is being put out. I thought the power bench was only able to hold a steady current and that the current limiter was there to have an accurate understanding of the current that is being generated. I am glad to know that the current limiter isn't required as that makes this process much more simple.
Are these adjustable power benches noticably more expensive?
@@davidmishiyev2607 I try to be efficient, does not always work.... ;)
The adjustable power bench (in c.c. mode) will adjust the voltage to maintain a constant current OUTPUT, yes. Most power benches have this feature, in the US you can find a 32V 5A adjustable power source for around $ 120,00 I guess. Even if the OUTPUT is stabilized, you still should monitor the current running through your cell, by putting a multimeter in series and adjust the current control to a value that gives you a precise reading on your multimeter, for instance 5mA, so you can use Faraday's law to calculate your ppm.
@@davidmishiyev2607 I have made this video about the multimeter, but still need to translate it into english (not so efficient!): ua-cam.com/video/g32EhuBIaTU/v-deo.html
Great! I'll come back and ask more questions if I get stuck. But your video appears to have simplified this entire process for me.
I will buy the equipment and let you know if I get stuck. How much different would the process be using Maltodextrin as the reduction agent?
And then Marc, would a source with a higher voltage like 120 volts wear down the silver anode faster?
Eduardo, what releases the silver ions is the current, not the voltage. For higher currents you would needs larger silver anode, like the ones they use in pool filters. Is there any sensible purpose in doing so?
@@marctinkelenberg So if I use 3 milliamperes, for example, will the anode wear out faster?
@@GuilhermeSantos-ed2oj Tell me, how have you been producing CS so far? You have so many random questions, it seems you are not ready to produce your own CS.
@@marctinkelenberg I measure by milligrams, every hour and 15 minutes my anode loses 100mg, I usually produce according to per dahlin's documents but I find it too much tannic acid to produce 1g of cs
@@GuilhermeSantos-ed2oj If your anode "loses" 100 mg every 15 minutes, you are obviously not following any of the instructions!
How long does the "naked" 60ppm silver last in suspension?
If stored properly (cool, dark), several years.
@@marctinkelenberg you are brilliant thanks
Is it possible to make CS in 2-3 sessions?
Hi Salvatore, I am not exactly sure what you mean, and although it is possible to produce ionic silver in a first step, and reduce it afterwards, or even to produce lower ppm CS on the first day and continue the electrodissolution on the second day and so on, I would not recommend it. As the process to produce 60 ppm CS takes only one hour, I don’t really see the point?
Hey, nice video. Is there an option to swap out the corn syrup to something more natural ingredient?
Jakab, yes there are many options, such as other polysaccharides (fruit extracts, honey, Aloe vera), or polyphenols (tea extract), tinctures… You can find various options in the document section of the Colloidal Silver and Gold facebook group.
@@marctinkelenberg Could you please link the group? I just joined 3 groups with this name, but not sure if I joined the right one .
@@jakabjacso141 Here is the link: facebook.com/groups/1663538010602428
hi marc well i was all excited about my silverlungs gen. till i read your comments but here goes, so i produce ionic w/silverlungs it takes 2ahalf 3 hrs prep my aloe vera so my questin is does your silver have a taste second my aloe vera organic is a brown powder will that give it a cetain taste? also how many mg for 1000ml of aloe vera powder and how long on the heater plate my first batch came out real nice slightly darker yellow amber second which i did 1000ml that came out a little lighter and whats aglomeration?any help would be gladly appreciated win lose or draw im gonna build mastery thanks marc
Hype, not much wrong with the Silverlungs :) I don't find the addition of glicose, Aloé vera or citrate changes the taste much. My Aloé vera powder is white pinkish, I don't believe it should be brown? I have good results with 400 mg in a liter if it is the only reagent I use for reduction and capping. Generally after 40 minutes to 60 minutes it is fully recuded at 70-80°C heat. The colour in the two-step process (max. 25 ppm) should be bright yellow, not amber. When you reach a nice yellow, transparent nano silver colloid you'll know you have reached mastery! Note that the colloid in this video is amber color because it is higher ppm (60 ppm).
thank you marc my silver when its in ionic stage taste metallic is that normal
@@hypeferris6633 Yes, ionic silver has a strong metallic taste. If you suck on a silver spoon, silver ions will also be released from the surface, which creates the metallic taste.
hank you marc for responding when i first started this i bought a cheap generator and a bubbler with a tube and the generator to me was to much electricity it being done in 20 min didnt seem right then i tore down a blue tooth speaker that charges with a phone charger im probley the only one in history that can produce silver and connect music to the process lol but that also didnt feel right so i bought a silverlungs now my problem is finding real product for reducing agents i think ill just stick to karo if you could give me some advice on starch i have a lab grade soable starch can i use that then my karo i feel that ionic will loose value over i have a problem on finding a real trisoduim citrate thank you ahead for all your help
@@hypeferris6633 I have never used starch on its own, only as a stabilizer for glucose reduced CS. But starch on itself should work, too. I would add 1 - 1,3 g of soluble starch per liter of ionic silver solution. As I understand it, on a hot plate (>60°C) it takes 1-3 hours to fully reduce. If you don't have a hotplate, you can try to microwave it for a few minutes at low intensity.
Hi, thank you for this great video! Is washing soda and baking soda the same?
Hi! It is not the same, but you can create washing soda from baking soda by cooking it in a low temp oven (40°-60°C) for an hour.
@marctinkelenberg thanks for the answer. Does your power source have a liniear power supply? Can I use a switching power supply?
@@sophchiburdanidze6523 Yes, the linear power supply has a constant current setting. This is convenient to keep the current within a specific range. You can use a fixed power unit, measuring the current with a multimeter, but in that case tou need to regulate the current by lifting or lowering the cathode.
Hi Mark , I was just reading comments and realized you are the most patient man in the world. I haven't made or used any CS in a long time and wondered how the covid empidemic played out for you? Any stories to tell with regards to CS use?
Hi Timothy, and yes I am generally patient, lol. We have been protecting ourselves with masks and CS spray, but still got COVID during a trip to Europe, when we let our guard down during a family gathering. We did bring capped CS, though, and I believe it helped to reduce the time we felt sick. I personally had little symptoms, wife and kid stayed in bed 2 days.
@@marctinkelenberg Glad to here you all got through it.
Hello again, you seem to be experienced in making nano silver. Thank you for all the information you share. it's really helpful! I have a question: Do you know how to make nanoparticles as small as possible, less than 20nm?
Hi Soph, and thanks, but I am not more than a interested amateur. I have a nano sizer on my Christmas wishlist, lets hope that this year is my lucky year! From what I have studied, using electrodissolution we will not be able to produce the smallest nano particles (2-5 nm), but typically the particles will be in the 5-20nm range. There are a few things you can do to keep average particle size small: 1. Use the purest ingredients and a fast reducing agent, 2. Make sure the pH of the medium is around 8-9, 3. Use a stabilizer or capping agent during the process, so that formed nano particles will not react and agglomerate with other nano particles, and 4. Use ultrasonic energy to break larger particles into smaller particles (I have not tested that myself, but it is well documented).
@@marctinkelenberg thanks🩵
Is half an ampere (500 mA) too much? I can't find anything else at the moment
Yes, that is wayyyyyy too much, better not to exceed 15 mA or stay below 5 mA if you dont use reducers, heat, stirring devices…
@@marctinkelenberg I just finished it! I did 1 hour with an old 32 v 500 mA charger, I used some table sugar and some sodium bicarbonate (didn't have sodium carbonate). I used magnetic stirring and heatplate at 30 C. It came out just a bit lighter in color than in your video, but definitely an improvement to my previous attempts. Will try to use a less powerful source if I ever find some. Thank you so much for your help
@@Hugh_Mungus If you could measure the current actually running through the electrodes it would be better, table sugar is also not the best alternative, but most important is the result: if you can successfully feminize your seeds, you can use this process.
Hello Mark
I am unsure how you arrived at the figure of 20ppm @5mA?….did you use an initial titration to find the silver conc.?
I have found your work very inspiring and surely the best on YT!
Thank you
Ian in Oz. 😊
Thanks, Ian. We use Faraday’s law to estimate ppm. It roughly says that applying 5 mA to silver it will release 20 mg of silver ions, in 1 L of water this amounts to 20 ppm.
@@marctinkelenberg
Hi Marc,does the thikness of the wire used play any rol in this? I imagine a very thin wire needs less current than a very thick wire? Also,does it matter if the cathode is langer than the flask or beaker? I'm looking at the Silverlungs electrodes, they are 7 gauge diameter and 7.5" long. (That's to long for producing 500ml(16 ounces) of CV in an ehrlenmeyer flask, but i realy like them for producing a 32 oz batch in a closed ehrlenmeyer flask.) Thanks!
@@bartverleysen999 A larger surface can handle more Ampères (current density), so a thicker wire or suspended deeper in the water cab handle higher currents. The cathode doesn’t have to be silver, and should be much smaller than the anode, to keep voltage within the margin of 15-30V more easily.
Hey I have a generator I bought on ebay that has a reverse polarity every 30 sec and a constant current, my question though is what do u think is best the reverse polarity or to keep it at normal polarity with the anode deep into the water and cathode 3x less into the water ...which is best? Also how can I test with a multi meter my voltage that I'm getting, I am only shown 12.3456 < in Mila amps what setting on my multi meter do I use to check that?
Thanks a ton!
Hi! I've been making colloidal silver for about 10 years and your process just took me to the next level. Thank you so much!
I've made several batches with your technique trying to achieve consistent results - using .999 10g silver wire, purest (000) distilled water, heat @ 95F, stirring, processed in the dark for 1 hour at about 22V. I'm getting a beautiful, clear result in varying shades of deep amber (with next to nothing left on the filters). But - in some of the deeper shaded batches, there is something I can only describe as a grayish cast over the color - even though the liquid appears to be completely clear. Do you know what might be the cause/effect of this? And, since I can't measure the ppms of the finished solutions, what does the color variance (all in shades of amber) indicate? Also, unlike you, I do notice a slight color change in some of the batches within the first 10 minutes. Does this indicate the need to adjust voltage/amperage? Thank you again!
Thanks for your kind words. Color differences are not a big problem as long as you stay in the yellow to amber range. A blueish hue when you shine a white light through the colloid is normal also. In any case it is recommendable to measure the voltage and current during the process by putting a simple multimeter in series. You should try to keep your current around 10-15 mA, because if you dissolve too much silver too fast, you might suffer some agglomeration of particles or even silver oxide falling out of suspension.
@@marctinkelenberg Oh, yay! I was hoping that slight bluish hue was okay - just wondering because I'm only seeing it in the darker amber batches. I am using a multimeter and will try to monitor more closely for the 10-15mA. Thanks so much for your speedy reply and phenomenal vid/guidance! Priceless!
Marc você poderia me explicar de maneira mais fácil a diferença de Nano, colloidal, ionic ? Seria a cor de cada?
Monica, mais fácil dar uma olhada no meu site em português: www.lua-verde.com
Pretty darn cool, finally, someone who does the correct process and current, 15 imo is pushing it to the max but you were using silver bars so it can handle that current and more,
Diggin It Appreciate it. I agree that 15 mA is pushing it, but with stirring and fast reducing it does not seem to be a problem. Normally I would keep it around 5 mA, but when time is an issue...
Was the water temp maintained at 30 degrees throughout the process???
Yes, the temperature was maintained around 30°C, although it should be noted that glucose reduced CS does not necessarily be done at a higher temperature. That said, I like to repeat the process always within the same parameters, and this way I don't depend on environmental temperature changes.
@@marctinkelenberg thanks a lot...but you dit not use washing soda in the solution..any reasons???
@@cosmichealth3907 I mention the electrolyte (Sodium carbonate or washing soda) starting at 1:08 minutes into the video, including its preparation. The sodium carbonate must be added at the start of the process (I should have shown that in the video). Generally I continue adding drops until my multimeter reads the desired current (10 mA or 15 mA), typically 10-15 drops of sodium carbonate.
@@marctinkelenberg thanks....please do a video on colloidal gold too
can you use maltodextrin in this?
Yes, though it is considered a weaker reducing agent. You should add a minimum of 18 mg maltodextrin per 10 mg of silver. So if you want to produce 1 litre of 10 ppm CS you should add 18 mg, for 20 ppm 36 mg and so on.
I use a similar method learned at the Colloidal silver & Gold forum makes high quality colloidal 20 ppm Silver 👍🏼
Kephra is the man !
Kephra is a legend. 👍
@@NikolayMegdanovyes He Is👍🏼
@@NikolayMegdanovdo you still visit the cgcsforum ?
If so can you please shoot a PM to Kephra that I’m locked out the forum ?
My forum handle is PEMF Silver .
Thank you !
@@Enoch-Gnosis I can't. My account seems to be deleted for some reason. However you can access the forum using any free vpn in case your country/ip is blocked.
@@NikolayMegdanov I was able to long in via DDG👍🏼
Hello, why my is purple colour after?
Hi, Can you post a picture? Generally, colour change means that the colloid is unstable and larger particles or silver salts are formed. The purple color might mean that the form of the particles changed from spherical into some other configuration. This can be caused by incomplete reduction or contaminated water or beaker.
Hi Marc, I have watched many Colloidal Silver videos and I think yours is the best, I have some questions, will adding sodium carbonate make it react with the silver ions and turn it into another compound? Like adding salt and become silver chloride? How much is needed per 1 Liter of distilled water? Where can I buy 1 Molar sodium carbonate? I read that all silver ions are the same size, so does it mean we can use higher voltage and ampere to speed up the production, like DV 30V 1 ampere? And how many drop of the dissolved corn syrup is needed to make 100% silver particles? Is corn syrup a good stabilizer too?How does it compare to other reducing agent like sodium citrate etc? Aren't you concern about the impurities of using 999 silver? How much is the setup like yours cost? Thanks.
Motto Thanks for your kind remarks. I will try to answer your questions one by one. The sodium carbonate has 3 functions: increasing conductivity of the distilled water, increasing pH and inhibiting silver plate-out on the cathode. The chemists use sodium carbonate because it does not create any harmful byproducts. It is the chloride that creates a silver salt, not the sodium. We don't use chloride. You can make a 1 molar solution by dissolving 10,6 g of sodium carbonate in 100 ml of distilled water, and use 20 drops of this per liter of CS. In order for the sodium to work, the voltage must be kept above 7,2V, that's why we try to keep it between 10-30V as a safety margin. Depending on your silver anode size you can use up to 15 mA or so, but I would not recommend to go higher. For one thing, the reduction will not be able to keep up with the speed of ion dissolution. A well balanced process will produce the smallest and uniform nano particles. Glucose is not a very good capping agent, but it is a reliable and fast reducer. Trisodium citrate is a faster reducer and a better capper, but you need 70-80 C heat. .999 silver is pure enough, there is absolutely no need for 4 nines. I buy silver from traditional foundries like Geiger and Asahi, so Imhave a guaranteed quality. Price of equipment depends highly on your country, in Brazil everything is expensive. I probably spent over 600 dollar on my equipment, but in the US you can find the exact same for 200-300 dollars. I spent also 300 dollar on a water distiller, as reliable water is very expensive here (4 dollars a liter hospital grade).
@@marctinkelenberg Thanks for the detailed explanation, wow $600 is a lot for your setup. So is corn syrup also a good stabilizer, I mean to keep the colloids in suspension for long period of time? There are a lot of controversies on silver particles and the silver ions, from my understanding, the ionic silver kills microbes by oxidation right? But I am not quite sure how the metallic silver kill the microbes, some says that the microbes are attracted to it like a magnet and it put out current to kill it, do you have any clue?
Motto Corn glucose is a reasonable stabilizer, in my experience, corn glucose reduced CS remains stable for years.
@@marctinkelenberg Ok, thanks.
@@marctinkelenberg I made a generator using $5 buck/boost circuit boards from Amazon and jumper cables from ebay. Can also use them for iontophoresis. Other stuff too of course.
I have been processing colloidal silver for 30 years. I am a Chartered Herbalist and will use NO SODIUM ADDITIVE in the solution with the concern that the human body may not be able to remove it (re: sodium nitrate and the "blue boy syndrome"). I have a a process that incorporates a small plate of .999 Swiss gold to create a CS complex solution. I inject specific frequencies into the finished nano product using a very high end Rife frequency machine. ;It is proprietary. And it works "overtime" to getting healing with no monkeying around with dangerous chemicals. Good luck!
Well good luck with that! I have limited knowledge about Rife frequencies in connection with CS or CG, so I cannot comment on that. But I can assure that sodium carbonate has no relation whatsoever with argyria. As you can see in the video, no “dangerous chemicals” are used in the process, only food grade ingredients you will commonly ingest as part of your daily food intake.
@@marctinkelenbergif you heat the water to boiling then use the generator it creates yellow colloidal silver nothing needs to be added
@@TvConfusionn If you dont care too much about quality and stability of the CS you are correct, but heat alone is really not enough. The hydrogen bond is not nearly as strong as the polysaccharide bond, and by applying just heat you have little control over the process. The process described is a consensus between some of the more experienced biochemists in the field. You may need to study a little bit more.
@@marctinkelenberg I made it a few months ago and it is still a deep yellow color so it seems stable to me
@@TvConfusionn You are entitled to your opinion, but I prefer to follow the advice of experienced biochemists. Did you ever test your CS for particle size and zeta potential?
That's magnificent episode you're more than enough You're amazing. May I ask you about your recommendation 15 milliampere thanks in advance
Thanks Mohamed. In order to strip ions off the silver anode in an orderly way, you should not exceed the "current density", i.e. current per square centimeter of silver anode surface. Generally it is assumed that it should not exceed 1 mA per sq.inch. But if you use sodium carbonate as an electrolyte and vigorous stirring, you will be able to use a higher current without affecting the process negatively. Especially if you are reducing the silver ions during the electrodissolution process. So, in most people's experience, with a silver rod, or even better a coin or bullion (larger surface), you can easily go up to 15 mA.
@@marctinkelenberg I really appreciate your help 🙏 but if I work without any additives What is the maximum ppm I can be obtained?
@@mohamedabbas4740 If you do electrodissolution with heat reduction only, no agents, it will be very hard to obtain a stable, high quality CS in my opinion. I would guess this way you could get up to 30-40 ppm, not more.
The reason why add the corn syrup? Its necessarily or optional?
Any others equivalent?
jlkh The corn syrup will reduce the ionic silver to a nano silver colloid. The same can be done with other sugars, like maltodextrose, or tinctures, from cinnamon, turmeric, or plant extracts such as Aloé vera.
Can green tea be used?
@@marctinkelenberg Hello, I want to know if we can use cinnamon or turmeric or do we need extracts of them?
@@paramj4287 There best way to use turmeric, cinnamon and other plant parts is to use extract or tincture, because it is more pure and has longer life span. In the case of Aloe vera inner leaf gel, I use the full product (in dry powder form). The main problem is that it will naturally contain contaminants, that may reduce the shell life of your CS. In medicinal properties, there is no difference.
@@marctinkelenberg But extract or not they will still work right? if we don't take into account the purity and shelf life of CS?
What are the cleanliness of the electrodes? need silver 999.9
Higher purity is better, but 99.99% should be ok, no need for triple 9. Cleanliness is another thing, always keep all containers and equipment as clean as possible and rinse with distilled water before use.
@@marctinkelenberg thank you for shearing your experience! On UA-cam there is no good content about colloid and nano forms of silver. Your works is very helpful!
@@alchemygirl8185 Thank you!
What are the supplies you are using? Can you link them?
Hi Jennifer, I am in Brazil, so brands and stores will be different. Most people use a 32V/5A Korad power supply, and I use a magnetic stirrer with hot plate (Alpha Nagel) and a simple multimeter. I also use a steam distiller, Bio Art brand, that produces 4 litres in about 4 hours.
@@marctinkelenberg Much appreciated!
What configuration makes it amber color
@vivoroman The colour is a function of the particle shape, size and concentration: bright yellow is typical for 20 ppm spherical AgNP of 5-20nm size. Amber colour can mean either higher concentration or larger particle size.
@@marctinkelenberg thanks for this... I got this CS generator with silver rods from Etsy, and its only giving me clear transparent liquid color... Running 27V, 1mA...
@@vivoroman Most “CS generators” produce ionic silver solutions, but you can reduce the ionic silver to nano silver adding reducing agents, such as polysaccharides, and adding heat.
hello marc i hope all is well.well i have alot to say and your feed back is needed,please be honest,no hurt feelings here.i have done an uncapped nano silver not quite 60 ppm, i was worried that i would over cook it or run it to long and mess it up,i read in your comments that this method is better for nebulizing than a capped.my anode and cathode looked real good , no taste,no sparlklers,in my capped when i add salt for testing no color change but uncapped is was cloudy and grey i hope im on point i think i know the answer but i want to hear it from you.adding the electrolyte and karo from the jump i like that process alot. i put my silverlungs in the closet in my defence we'll call it a process of elimination, building mastery.your thoughts would be much appreciated and any tips. your the best marc i really mean that, please be honest thats the only way ill get better. thanks
Hype Ferris, the good thing about this process is that it is hard to overcook. If the color and transparency looked good, you are good to go. I don't generally do the salt test on reduced silver, but it is normal it would change color, first to pink, then to grey, and with some turbidity. You may want to join the Facebook page "Colloidal Gold and Colloidal Silver" created by Per Dahlin, where you can post pictures of your produce and look at other's pics, so we can comment.
thanks marc i went a little longer in my process why is there a blue collor to it is that bad clear a eye level but at a angel there is blue tint to it thanks ahead of time marc
update i did a 50ml distiled water 50ml uncapped and it came out a nice amber color but if you look down into it there is a slight blue tint any thoughts would be nice thanks marc
HYPE FERRIS Hi, that blueish hue is normal for higher concentrations, and is similar to the Tyndall effect of true colloids (effect similar to moonstones). As long as color and transparency are OK, you are good to go!
Have 60mg of silver in 1liter?
Yes, 60 ppm is 60 mg of AgNP in one litre of water, more or less the maximum without using stabilizers.
what is an uncapped nano particle and what is the biological benefit of utilizing an uncapped nano silver solution?
G JL Uncapped means that it is reduced nano silver, but no stabilizer or capping agent has been used, so you have pure metallic particles. These are most effective for topical use, or used in a nebulizer for pulmonar infections, because in that case you cannot use a capped or stabilized form, as it may build up on the pulmonar wall.
@@marctinkelenberg thank you for your excellent explanation and well produced, enlightening, and entertaining video!
@@gjl7022 Thank you!
@@marctinkelenberg perhaps i missed the explanation in the video. what is the significance of processing/producing nano silver at the desired temperature?
JuniorLabs Straight Silk Spray the temperature will speed up the reduction process, and depending on the reduction agent, higher temperatures are required. Glucose will reduce at room temperature, but a faster reduction process will guarantee smaller and more uniform nano particle size.
Hello, Marek, I have sinus problems caused by fungus, so I'm afraid of sugar as a reducer, what would you recommend in this case? I have a sinus inhaler and would like to apply nanosilver with it, thanks.
I understand your concern, but I don't really share it. I have seen excellent results of treating toe fungus with glucose capped CS. Polysaccharides are commonly used as a reducer, but as an alternative you could try polyphenols, such as tea extract (tannic acid). In the Facebook group facebook.com/groups/1663538010602428 you will find some recipes.
@@marctinkelenberg Thanks for the feedback you have reassured me.1. Will honey be suitable, somewhere you mentioned that it also acts as a shield, and it's rather for the sinuses, not so much, is it? I'm asking because I have a lot of honey and no corn syrup, but if I need it, I'll buy it. 2. Does it have to be Karo or can't it just be plain corn syrup?
3. At what point is the reducing agent added dropwise, right after sodium carbonate?
Suppose I want to produce 1 liter of 20 ppm unshielded in an hour, correct me if I'm wrong.
First, I heat the water to 35 ℃, add 20 drops of sodium carbonate, then stabilize the current to 5mA and keep the current above 10v, then turn off the light and now the question is, at what point does it add 20 drops of syrup? And what if I wanted to make 60ppm in an hour or 120ppm in 2 hours with gelatin, at what point in these situations do I add the reducer and how many drops do I mean a specific time and amount?
4. You mentioned somewhere in the comment that you can't reduce silver too much, that it is harmful. So how is it, if we want to make 120ppm with gelatin, we add 120 drops of corn syrup, then we heat everything to 90, isn't that too much of a reduction?
5. Does the laser light have to be red or can it be green?
6. What do you use the ph meter for?
7. Could you describe the process of producing 120ppm with gelatin, specifically the temperature of the water at a given time?
8. When can I turn on the light immediately after adding the reducer?
Forgive me if some questions may seem ridiculous, but I really need this information, and I'm writing through a translator.
If you would find a moment of time and write back to me without haste, I would be very grateful. I would love to start making silver and finally feel better, I really hope so, but these uncertainties bother me and that's why I'm asking. Thank you again.
@@elobelosolo8999 Yes honey is great, if you can find real honey :)
@@elobelosolo8999 You can use plain Karo, yes, just make sure it has no additional ingredients, like coloring agents. The sodium carbonate has to be added at the beginning, 10-15 drops. I used to measure pH to make sure the water + sodium carbonate created an alcaline medium (pH > 8), but as my water is already alcaline to start with, I no longer do this test.
The reducing agent I generally add during the process, not all at the start. The logic is that you should never have more than 20-25 ppm free ions floating around, because they will oxidize and precipitate above the solubility of silver. So if you produce 20 ppm every hour (using 5 mA current), you can add 20 drops of glucose every hour. If you produce 20 ppm in 20 minutes, using 15 mA current, you should add 20 drops every 20 mins, and so on...
If you produce higher ppm capped CS (60 ppm or higher), you should add the gelatin earlier in the process to improve stability, let's say after 30 mins. The temperature should have reached 70-80 °C and should be maintained during the process.
I prefer to do the entire process in relative darkness, but when you are adding heat, you could argue that a bit of light does not make any difference.
I have never used my laser light anymore. Unless you are producing ionic silver, it really has no use.
Have you watched the video about producing gelatin capped CS?
You can do the test with honey, dilute it 1:1 with destilled water and add it dropwise.
@@marctinkelenberg I still don't understand :(
If I want to make 1 liter , 20ppm 5mA in an hour does it add glucose at the end?
Does it gradually add 5 drops every few minutes, say, 15 minutes, 5 drops, 30 minutes, 5 drops, 45 minutes, 5 drops, and 60 minutes, 5 drops, so 20 drops in an hour, right? Then we turn off the power and leave only mixing and heating for 10 minutes.
As for honey, does it have reducing and closing properties, i.e. I am not suitable for sinuses?
Oi marc, você não limpou a cada 30 minutos o anodo nesse video?
Não precisa limpar o anodo, apenas limpo no fogo após a produção para recuperar a prata oxidada.
@@marctinkelenberg sim mais como nesse vídeo, levou uma hora, você passou no fogo nos 30minutos?
@@terezinhamariapereira9917 Nunca limpo os eletrodos durante o processo, mesmo se corre por 2 horas. Não há nenhuma diferença.
@@marctinkelenberg quando eu deixo sem limpar por mais de uma hora a água vai ficando cinza escura ao invés de preta, porque faço uma concentração alta, isso é normal?
@@terezinhamariapereira9917 Quais os seus parametros (V, mA, tempo, agente redutor, agente encapsulador)? A prata coloidal sem encapsulação não pode ser produzida em altas concentrações, eu limito a 60 ppm. Com encapsulação forte (e.g. gelatina), pode chegar a 200 ppm ou mais tranquilamente. No caso a cor irá de cor de chá até cor de café, mas sempre com boa transperencia. Cor cinza indica provavelmente que está trabalhando acima da concentração máxima, resultando em produçăo de oxido de prata. Isso nada tem a ver com a limpeza dos eletrodos.
I'm just here for the music. Thank you for this first class demonstration.
Thnks, and glad you liked the music :)
When you measure the the solution with a TDS/EC meter what does it say?
A TDS meter cannot be used to measure ppm of CS, as it is not a dissolved liquid, such as Ionic silver.
@@marctinkelenberg Thanks,
I'm asking because others say you can and I was curious what yours would be, plus they say the TDS/EC meter only works up to about 20 ppm's before it becomes unreliable. The conversion factor in TDS meter's are .5 NaCl and .7 Organics because they are calibrated for NaCl and the conductivity for Ag+ and NaCl around the same.
If this is not true how can I measure my colloidal silver and be confident what the ppm's are?
This is what they say.
"So How Can I Measure the PPM (Parts Per Million) of Colloidal Silver?
The best way to get an estimate of the PPM of silver in your results is with an EC (Electrical Conductivity) meter. These are readily available from Amazon. Measure the EC of your results, and multiply that by 1.1 - it’s as simple as that.
If you already have a TDS meter, you can use that; the resolution is not as good, but if you multiply your TDS reading by 2.5, you will get a reasonable approximation of the colloidal silver PPM."
@@troy5659 TDS meters cannot measure nano silver, period. People who claim you somehow can, don’t understand chemistry. The best way to calculate ppm is to use Faraday’s law. Basically, if you apply 5 mA for one hour on a silver rod, you will generate 20 ppm CS in one litre of water. As this is a metric calculation, you can easily translate this for higher or lower mA, volume and duration.
@@troy5659 Another way to estimate ppm of CS is by color: If you store a sample of 20 ppm CS as reference (color equal to Johnson’s baby shampoo) you can dilute your higher ppm CS (tea or coffee colour) with distilled water until it reaches the same yellow colour, and then calculate the dilution factor. Experienced CS producers will be able to tell ppm just by looking at the colour. Unless reducing agents have been used that alter the colour such as turmeric or other plant extracts.
@@marctinkelenberg Thanks, what is Faraday’s law again and how do I set it up for a gal. and only making 10 ppm?
Você conhece algum agente redutor e estabilizador para produzir 8000ppm?
Unless you explain why you want to produce 8000 ppm CS and what you would use it for, there is no way to answer your question. 8000 ppm is very unpractical to produce, because it would take several days to produce it, so how would you accompany that?
Hi Marc, Hope you are well, I like all your clips on what your doing to improve health.
Faraday’s law to estimate ppm. It roughly says that applying 5 mA to silver it will release 20 mg of silver ions, in 1 L of water this amounts to 20 ppm. How long do we need run this to achieve this ?
Hi Theva, sorry if that info was missing: 20 ppm @ 5 mA per hour.
@@marctinkelenberg Thank you for fast response. I will try that. Thank you for getting back to me..
Qual a temperatura maxima que o agitador chega? qual a temperatura que usou?
Este modelo tem temperatura máxima de 320 °C. Pela experiencia diria que ela consegue esquentar um litro de água até uns 150 °C, o que para a prata coloidal é suficiente. Para redução com glicose a temperatura pode ser baixa (30-40°C), mas para citrato precisa estar na faixa de 70°C a 80°C, e para encapsulação com Aloé vera ou gelatina, perto do ponto de ebulição (90°C).
Muito obrigado pela informacao....potente ele :)
@@cralx2k De nada, estou contente com o equipamento, sim!
Marc Tinkelenberg desses tres produtos ai vc pode escolher so um para o seu agente? tipo eu só quero usar o carbonato... serve assim?
Edu Romero O carbonato de sódio é obrigatório, serve de eletrolita e para corrigir o pH. O glicose serve como redutor.
Hello. I describe the process used by me and please tell me what you think it turned out ... I used 0.7 l of distilled water, 25ml of distilled water with 2.65 g of sodium carbonate, I dripped 14 drops of solution into the use distilled water (0.7l) ... the used voltage of 26v with 5 mA ... the anode used a 0.7mm silver wire,introduced 14cm in solution, the negative electrode a piece of 1mm copper wire inserted 4cm, ... I used a magnetic stirrer, initially the distilled water had 0 ppm, after the carbonate solution had 53 ppm, I let the electrolysis work until what ppm went up to 73 ppm, it lasted about 2.5 hours ... during this time I kept cleaning the electrodes in half an hour, ... after these procedures, I stopped the electrolysis and dripped 3 drops of corn syrup (1 / 1 distilled water) and I started heating to 65 degrees Celsius, for 30 minutes shaking from time to time with a non-metallic rod, ... I obtained a clear and amber-colored solution ... I filtered it with coffee filter, ... I checked it with a laser beam, it is very visible and constant ... what do you think about the procedure and what do you think it turned out?! ...I still wonder if the size of the anode (silver) influences the calculation method presented in the forums?! ... thank you! ...
Hi Stefan, your process sounds about right, and if you have a nice transparent amber colour you should have high nano silver content. I would use a lot more drops of corn syrup dilute, for 60 ppm you can easily use up to 60 drops, which will help stabilizing the CS. By using less glucose, and heat, part of the silver ions will be reduced as a result of the electrolysis of the water, not by the polysaccharides, and this will lead to a less stable CS. Also, you should add the drops during the process not just afterwards, for instance, 20 drops at every half hour, so that the reduction can keep up with the generation of silver ions.
Interesting but i wonder why you need pure water If you are adding sodium carbonate ?
Tap water contains all kinds of elements that will form silver salts during the process. Also, tap water is generally too acid to allow for efficient reduction to nano particles.
@@marctinkelenbergThank you!I read the articles from the CGCS forum..
The articles are very well explained. But I remember that a few years ago I saw someone talking about a voltage regulator IC for controlling the current. Now I can't find this information anymore. From what I've read, the most important thing is that the voltage should be over 10 volts and the current between 6-15 milliamps.
And your video is the best video i saw on UA-cam! Thank you!
@@instructoruldemeditatie2367 Thank you, yes that info is correct. You can find cheap current limiters, though the cheaper ones dont seem to be very reliable. But remember, these are output limiters, they don’t measure the current actually running through the cell.
@@marctinkelenbergYes .. That's why the power supply with the curent control limiter is the best option .
This machine power supply?
Yes the equipment on the left is an adjustable DC power supply, which means you can limit voltage or current to a set value.
Great video. I also learned the process from CSCG. My set-up is a bit more primitive but the process is the same. I hope you get lots of views because the videos out there are crazy. I view a lot of them and I'm amazed at how they managed to make cs at all and where they learned. I reduce afterward as I don't have a heated stirrer. Is what's produced prior to reduction ionic silver? That was my understanding.
timothy longmore Thanks, I agree there are many scary videos out there. Most people produce an unknown mix of ionic silver, silver oxide, insoluble silver hydroxide, nano silver and microsilver. You are right, if you don't use heat or a reducing agent, you will be producing mainly ionic silver (also called ionic silver oxide or ISO).
i think you can switch the polarity of the electrodes every 1 minute or so, to reduce the formation of silver oxide. Not sure, but I think it is possible. But it needs a more advanced circuit.
also good video. I had zero clue about sodium carbonate;
Again, another "also": Where you from ? The water you used seems quite brazilian
@@ConsertandoTudo Yes, I live in Brazil, originally from The Netherlands, though.
Unfortunately there are more downsides than upsides to this: every time you switch the polarity between electrodes, it will take some time for the current flow be re-established. This means that the application of Faraday's law to calculate concentration will become highly inaccurate. Note that the accumulation of silver oxide on the anode does not actually reduce the ability to dissolve ions in the water. As the addition of sodium carbonate will reduce the buildup of silver oxide, this becomes a non-issue. The silver oxide can be reduced to pure silver again by flame burning the silver wire or bullion, so you will not lose any of it.
@@ConsertandoTudo If you look at the latest videos, you will see I have moved to producing my own distilled water, due to quality and cost issues. I now use a Bioart steam distiller.
Can someone please tell me what cap and uncapped means
Uncapped CS refers to nano particles of silver suspended in water, without adding a stabilizing or capping agent. Capping is done in a separate step, by adding, for instance, gelatin or other proteins to the uncapped CS that will bond to the silver nano particles (AgNp). This is done to enhance stability, reduce particle size and protect the AgNP in the gastro-intestinal tract.
@@marctinkelenberg thank you very much, do you sell this? I would like to purchase some. Also, how long does capped Nano silver last storage wise? Thanks again
Hi @@dochollywood79 I only sell CS here locally in Brazil, as it is illegal to sell it as medicine, and regulatory organs are difficult and expensive to deal with. Uncapped CS can be stored for months up to a couple of years. Gelatin capped can be stored for years to decades.
Hi how much did all this equipment cost
Hi, in Brazil all this equipment is very expensive, I must have spent around $ 1,200 but in the US one would probably spend half of this.
@@marctinkelenberg oh okay I can’t find any good colloidal sliver generator it’s all ionic. I got a bad infection that causes my lymph to swell. Can you recommend me any colloidal silver generator kit
@@gudrcvh7717 In principle, you can use any ionic silver kit, just add some heat, stirring, sodium carbonate and glucose and you are good. Or you buy separate off-the-shelf equipments as shown in my video.
I tried making colloidal silver a lot of times and I got different results: dark amber, gray and very light gray. I used single distilled water and no additives. Anyone know why this is + what size particles these should be? Anything really helps
The best suggestion I can give you is to follow tested procedures to letter. Anything with colors different than what us shown on the video is very unlikely to be colloidal silver.
@@marctinkelenberg Thank you. I am trying to produce colloidal silver to use as a hormonal inhibitor in plants. Truth is, I don't know if I need colloidal silver. I am told only the smallest colloidal silver particles will work. But I am not sure if a solution of ionic silver will do the trick as well.
Using this method, can someone really make 250 ppm colloidal silver?
Hi Samiaji. If you want to produce higher ppm colloids you will need strong stabilizers/capping agents. Using only glucose, as in this video, I would not go higher than 60 ppm. Using honey (proteins!), you can go higher. When capping with gelatin (animal protein) you can easily go up to 320 ppm or even higher. I have colleagues who went up to 1000 ppm using gelatin.
@@marctinkelenberg Mind sharing how it is done? Is it the same way as using the corn syrup? Thank you.
@@samiajijudistira7199 As you already mentioned, the process is shown in the 120 ppm gelatin video.
How high can you achieve with honey as the reducing agent?
Could I use a quality natural sea salt for an electrolyte?
No salt please, unless you aim at producing silver salts!
@@marctinkelenberg thank you...sodium bicarbonate is easy to find 🙏
@@BushmanCanuck We use sodium carbonate (washing soda), no bicarbonate. You can transform sodium bicarbonate into sodium carbonate by baking it for 20-30 min at 40°C in an oven.
@@marctinkelenberg ah thanks for the correction, you are very helpful and knowledgeable 🙏
Mine turns yellowish without adding syrup I really don't think it's necessary
Ionic silver oxide will (partly) reduce spontaneously, due to light, heat and contaminants in the water. Reducing agents like glucose are added to guarantee a complete and controlled reduction, with evenly shaped nano particles. Also, without adding a reducing agent, you will not be able to produce higher ppm.
@@marctinkelenberg thankyou for your response can I use organic light agave syrup zero contaminates it is mostly glucose and fructose instead of Karo corn syrup due to allergies
@@marctinkelenberg actually it didn't have a metallic taste either and was the perfect yellow color I used 32volts it was coloidial color coming straight from the silver bars while it was making so something doesn't add up I'm thinking it can be made properly without additives if made at the right voltage ⚡
What is the perfect voltage and current limit in your opinion
@@thewildgoose1790 Yes, agave syrup should work, I would test with the same quantities.
No electrolytes, just heat.
We use electrolytes and reducing agents to have a controlled process with uniform and more stable particles, something that cannot be achieved using just heat and electrodissolution, as the hydrogen bond is not as strong.
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So I'm new to making my own colloidal silver. Thinking about buying a generator. But this video? Has really scared the shyt outta me. This seems to be on a level that I have not yet to even quite understand yet!! Like.... WTH IS GOING ON IN HERE MAN!?!?!?
Maybe I'm not ready.😭😭😭😭
Mimi Robinson There is nothing wrong with starting simple and learning to get to advanced level. The main difference is that with this equipment rather than a plug-and-play ionic silver generator, you can produce different types of nano silver colloids for different purposes. The main thing is that, if you want to produce consistently high quality CS, you will have to understand some of the underlying theory and procedures. Most commercial ionic silver generator manufacturers, unfortunately, don't have a clue.
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Hey I appreciate your response! And from it, I learned that I need to at least know the difference between ionic and nano. Ima hold off on purchasing that life generator. I was gone buy that, and then I seen another one with an air tube, so when I looked into that, they had too many bad reviews. So yes! I definitely want quality and the best, so I have more understanding to do..... but I'm also thinking something is better than nothing, so yea, I guess I can start small for practice and learn my way on up. Thank you kindly
What do you think about the silver lungs generator and their process and reducing drops that come with their equipment? It was the only one I could find that had the option and user friendly ability to make actually colloidal silver
Trent Dorsey In principle, all generators produce ionic silver, and you could also add glucose or maltodextrose to ionic silver produced in any other generator. Key is that the generator should produce high quality ionic silver to start with. If you want to produce nano silver in a one step process, you will need a generator that has heating and stirring. Though the Silverlungs machine is better than average, I don't like the beaker form, as the electrodes are very close together. Also, I am not using polarity switching anymore, because at every switch the current drops to zero and has to build up again. Silverlungs sells a reducing agent that is basically a sugar (how much $$ ?) and uses no sodium carbonate, nor measures pH. So the process is basically flawed.
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Geesh. Interesting. So over all, nano is what I should aim for, and not ionic, right?
Could you please proof the presence of silver ions per batch you produce a video for?
Proof the presence of ions with sodium chloride(table salt):
ua-cam.com/video/FNbq3_fkhwo/v-deo.html
Thanks, Ive studied your process and have no time for experimentation apart from the process that I run.
In my first video I do the process in two steps, first the production of ionic silver oxide, and I show the salt test in that video. In this video I show how to go directly to nano silver, so there will be hardly any free silver ions available, and the salt test is useless for nano silver colloids.
super 👍 suberbo
Lost me at corn syrup. The stuff is poison
If you dont like to use corn syrup (you dont have access to GMO free?), there are lots of alternative reducing agents you can choose from, many of them plant-based, such as the Aloé vera from my other video.
I need your Help Marc , possible to email you ?
Hi rebel, please leave a message at info@lua-verde.com
Hi Mark , I was just reading comments and realized you are the most patient man in the world. I haven't made or used any CS in a long time and wondered how the covid empidemic played out for you? Any stories to tell with regards to CS use?
Whenever we have a bacterial or viral problem, we take around 120-150 ml of 120 ppm gelatin capped CS, in 20 ml doses, 3 times a day in between meals, and that generally does the trick. I get positive feedback also from customers who follow the same protocol for resistant bacteria and virus.
@@marctinkelenberg I really got to get back to it. I was just starting to tinker around with capping when last we chatted. Like three years ago I guess. For ingesting CS , capped is essential. I have grand kids now and have had a few colds from them and dodged a few worse bugs they had. Luckily I haven't needed silver in a while. I made a few gallons when covid hit but didn't have need of it.
@@marctinkelenberg I really got to get back to it. I was just starting to tinker around with capping when last we chatted. Like three years ago I guess. For ingesting CS , capped is essential. I have grand kids now and have had a few colds from them and dodged a few worse bugs they had. Luckily I haven't needed silver in a while. I made a few gallons when covid hit but didn't have need of it.