2023 Arctic Cat Alterra 600 Lineup Featuring the Black Hills and Mud Pro Edition!
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- Опубліковано 5 лип 2024
- Arctic Cat is coming back strong for 2023 with new editions to the Alterra 600 Lineup, the Black Hills Edition and the MudPro Edition! Let us know what you think in the comments.
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Love the fact you still are dedicated to atvs. The atv market I feel as a whole is making a comeback to the economic conditions and i love that textron is paying attention to that
We love ATVs!!!! I'm happy to see Textron putting forth effort too!
I hope Cat comes out with a big bore twin again, Bring back the 1000 Mudpro please.
I’d love a Black hills vs Grizzly comparison video along with the adventure pro vs Garmin unit!
Great writing and lots of info here! Got a preliminary ride this past fall while in TRF and wasn't overly in love with the machine. Hoping to get an Alterra this spring to do a bit more testing.
Thanks DT, that's good to know! I didn't ride one but the build quality seems pretty improved over the Alterra 570s. I was really hoping to see something impressive when Textron took over.. Maybe something that didn't even make a ton of sense like in the vein of a Honda Rune.. Something they built just because they could and they wanted to assert a little dominance in the market... Then come out with something more practical... But I guess that idea wouldn't pitch very well to a bunch of number nerds in a board room!
@@DirtObseXXion Couldn't have said it better myself. I think they will take the cautious approach first, sell some units, then make some more aggressive moves. The positive news is based on what we saw and heard, Cat is back on the throttle and focused on offroad. Let's hope that plays out.
Never to late, all about being willing to spend the money it takes to bring this name in atvs back to life. Arctic Cat's new catalyst sled is making huge waves.. I'm staying positive. All my cats have been great machines.
My wife and I really like and appreciate the changes Articat has made. We have had older models and a new 2023. We both agree the new 2023 is an incredible machine and intend to spend some quality time together out on the trails!! Great come back Articat!
Thanks for sharing!
I'm considering an Alterra but not too many videos out there yet. Can you tell me what you like about your new one please? Thank you
I bought mine (a base model) in 2022 and I beat the living crap out of it, hasn’t let me down yet
Its nice to see cat make a comeback there new sleds are killing it.
agreed!
Great video guys always a pleasure hope all is well with y’all Glad to see textron taking these machines up a few notches love to see a shoot out with these🤘🏻🤘🏻
HEY AJ!!! Glad to hear from you brother!!!
FIRST! I haven't owned an Arctic Cat, but I have driven a few of the older 500 and 550 models, and honestly, I liked them a lot. I thought they handled well, and I liked the look of them. I also drove the Wild Cat Trail when it came out back in 2015 for a day long ride in the mountains in Gaspe, Quebec. Up until then I would never have considered owning a SxS and at the time I thought I'd be an ATV guy forever. That machine changed my impression of them, and I ended up buying a SxS the next year, albeit a different machine. I needed something larger. I like the look of these new 600 machines, and I like the practical features like the engine setup and the large fuel tank. Like you, I 'm glad to see Arctic Cat promoting these. I thought over the last year or two that they were planning to shut down the Arctic Cat Brand all together. I hope they pull off a win here.
Lol! Thanks for being here brother!
@@DirtObseXXion You're welcome. I love the videos you guys put out. I also added more info to my original post but I wanted to make sure I was still first LOL.
@@EastCoastATV Thanks man, i definitely appreciate that, especially since you know how much effort has to go into filming and editing! I liked the older 700 but the more recent 570 Alterras were kinda garbage..They just felt cheap and didn't ride as well as some of their older stuff.. The old Wildcat was a sweet little machine! I hope the new 600 is as good as it seems.. I thought about picking one up short term just to review it, but I'm not sure how the re-sale would be..
Hay guys back with another one right on keep them coming great content thanks guys
Thanks Dennis, good to see you here again brother!
I just test drove the shop quad at my local dealer, an AC Alterra 600 SE, and it was super snappy off the line! I loved the clutching and the power of the 600cc engine! The overall fit and finish was really nice as well. I really like the LTD and Black Hills Edition.
I’m all for it. I think this is exciting news and all good news. I personally think artic cat makes a great looking atv. And they are putting way more effort into their atv lineup than any Japanese manufacturer is these days. I can’t speak on reliability of artic cat, but I think their new lineup is awesome.
Agreed!!! I hope they help re-establish the Cats as a top-tier brand!
Holy crap. Grew up an Arctic Cat snowmobiler.....but $10k plus OTD for a 600 base model quad ensures I'll be sticking with Cfmoto for awhile.
I have 2 arctic cats and absolutely love them my 13 500xt have great ground clearance and diff lock
Before the market crash in 08, my dad was considering buying an Arctic cat because we had a decent dealer up by our hunting home in northern wisconsin, and he wanted to preserve both of our Honda atcs for his grand kids to ride. Market crashed and we put that idea on the back burner because he was a plumber at the time. We’re still using the atcs to pull trees out of the woods for fire wood and havnt had many issues.
Fast forward to when I was able to finance an atv for the same use, Arctic cat wasn’t even an option on my list of atvs I’d consider because of the bass pro dealer network and lack of service departments for warranty repairs.
We’ve rebuilt atvs for our uses ever since. The only two options I’d consider are a Honda rubicon for the foot shift and the IRS or a Yamaha grizzly if I wasn’t so insistent on having a foot shift.
Those are definitely great options! We really like the Grizzly, it's time tested..
I love that these are built in Minnesota, along with the motors. That alone gets my attention while I look at my $15k Canam that's made in Mexico. I don't mind the Mexico built part, but I know canam ain't paying them the same wages as people here in the US and that bothers me. No, I don't think Cat is back... but they are still here and that's what matters. Keep the others honest and moving forward.
Yep! Made in America means a lot for sure! I hope it ends up successful
I am liking these new cat's. They look well put together and nice looking.
I think so too!
I saw that black hills edition when I was at MLS the other day. I love the look of it and it’s a huge machine. Seems like power and feature wise they’re in the right place compared to the other brands. I’ve heard of a lot of issues especially with Polaris when it comes to reliability so if these can prove to be problem free they might be able to break into the market a little more.
It's definitely huge!!! I agree 100%, Polaris quality seems to be getting progressively worse and these machines proof to be solid I'd love to see Arctic Cat re-established as a top-tier machine..
As an owner of a 2017 Alterra 700, I can say it's a good reliable ATV that has cost me a trivial amount in repairs/maintenance. Aside from oils, I'm in less than $300 CAD for 6000km+.
When Textron bought them it seemed like the goal was to kill them off.
I'm lucky to have the only dealer left in the province 5 min away. But I can't justify buying another when they are priced in the area or above similar Can-Am and Polaris models. And not that those two brands are the be all end all, but they own the market and have dealers all over. And being able to get parts, accessories, and service ASAP is high on my list. Which is the reason I refuse to own a Can-Am, the closest dealer is literally the worst customer service business I've ever been to. In any industry.
Had a 2000 model, i guess its a "mid engine" or whatever its called. It rolled over on my while gradually attempting to ease up a slight grade to get the ATV outof site to deer scout in early archery season. Dislocated my hip, it was a mess. Dad fixed it and kept it. December 15 or so 2022 dad took it up the hollow at home muzzleloader hunting. Not sure what happened, but he was found by my brother in the field next to the ATV unconscious. The ATV was right side up, but the medical examiner found bruising on his back and lower back. Dad never woke up. Thats all i think of when i see the brand name "Arctic Cat". We are in Kentucky as well.
Man, I'm sorry to hear that..
Bought my wife an alterra 600 in May of 2022 and is now back in the shop for the third time. With only four hundred twenty-nine miles on it now. First time to the shop was for a clutch. For the second time not even two weeks later was a left cv-axle. Now it is in for have c1306 an c1305 codes thrown. I would expect this if it was my quad because my sons and I ride our machines hard. My wife on the other hand does not. The dealer says the 2022 had a few bugs.
Good to know, but hate to hear that for you..
Nice review guys!
Thank you!! Thanks for letting me get up close and personal with the ones you have in stock!!!
Great video brother!
Thanks brother 🤘
The Mud Pro and Black hills editions are very nice looking machines.
I think so too
I enjoy your overviews and takes on atv’s. I am a used Atv owner and doubt I would buy new. But it is nice to see what direction companies are going for future possible purchases. Thank you.
Thanks for checking out the vid! I do the same thing, especially with adventure bikes.. I don't like to keep them long because there's so many options out there.. I buy used so I can trade or sell and try a different flavor..
Cant afford them eh?
I have a 22 year old Arctic cat 250 stills runs like a new one. I also had a mud pro 700 that was a great machine. nothing wrong with Arctic cat.
Never to late I have a 2018 mudpro 700 bad ass Machine
Cats definitely heading in the right direction. Everything on these machines make it a very solid value I believe when comparing price with the market competition. I've own mant Cat atv's since 1998 and they have always served me very well. Tough and reliable. I would buy the LTD. or the Black Hill option which is perfect for my type of riding. I've looked at these many times in person and they are the best effort Cat has made so far. I will never sell my 2009 Thunder Cat however, it's a keeper.
Good stuff guys!
Thanks Austin!!! Hope to see you at IXCR this year!
@@DirtObseXXion see ya there for sure 😎
Really like these at first look. Would like to see more stuff on them.
love watching you guys review new machines constantly.
my question is tho what do you guys say is the best buget 4x4 atv under 7500usd. is the cf moto 400-500 an atv you would recommend for a budget mud build?
theres a few guys that really push them so i figure id ask guys that ride a bit of everything.
Thanks!!! I'm not sold on the Cfmotos and I don't think the smaller ones would make a great platform for a mud build.. The guys who push them also sell them, so just keep that in mind.. If I wanted a smaller displacement mud machine, I'd start with 450 or 570 Outlander.. The Rotax is a proven engine that makes much power than the smaller cfmotos, which will be very important when you add some mud tires.. I'd look for a new last year model, or a lightly used model and save some dough for aftermarket parts..
I appreciate what they’re trying to do but for the quality and styling I expect more at this price point. More thought should be put into their instrumentation for sure. If they want to be competitive they need to drop that price. I can’t believe I’m seeing atv prices hit where I bought my RZR for. Not much has changed over the past decade other than prices and they’re getting out of control.
I love the trim colors on the Black Hills edition, but hate the handle bar riser because I prefer sitting down and I'm short - lol - so even when I do stand up, I don't need a riser. If this can be replaced for normal handle bars . . . well . . . then we'd be talking - lol
Thanx for the info DirtXX!
We'll shorty, they are adjustable!!!! 🤣🤣🤣 Thanks Q!!!
like the mudpro and the blackhills ed.- hope you gonna test them soon !??
A big factor for a lot of people is the dealer network for service and availability of parts, and aftermarket support.
Very true.. The dealer network definitely diminished when Textron took over.
You always do good at making videos with good information I think time will tell with these new models. It’s a big question mark for me.it’s hard for me to spend that much money if I feel like I’m gambling with a good or bad machine.I would like to try one out though and see how it does I’ve considered a cf moto just to try something different but just haven’t done it lol
Thanks brother!
Great job again. I kinda like the look.
Thanks!
Well I bought a new arctic cat Alterra 600 ltd last week, the day after it was delivered i had a 4" oil spot on the ground. The dealer was awesome, they picked it up on 38 minutes, and after looking into it, they said the head gasket was leaking. Most likely from the head bolts not torqued to spec during assembly...
1 mile on the odometer, and already getting a warranty repair.
I got a 2022 Alterra 600 LTD it’s not bad love the power and handling but my clutch has gave me issues had it replaced already
I’m happy they’re still giving some attention to the Quad market.
I’d rather see folks buy a two up quad than a SXS Any day of the week.
Always good information from you guys well done video buddy.
I’ll tell you what burns my ass besides a 3 foot flame, is Honda and a car commercials. They seem to always take a SXS in there! WTF
So I just watched this video for the second time. Like I do with all your videos. Some of them more than that. You mention that this size or class of atv sales were up significantly over previous years? That’s great news if so. Hopefully that trend continues and maybe the big Japanese guys will give us a little more love. Either way thanks again guys.
Yeah, I pay close attention to market analysis and info sites like powersports news, and they published an article a few months ago that said ATVs sale were up across the country but especially in the South. I'm hoping that the SXS wave has broke a little and we start to see more emphasis on ATVs again..
@@DirtObseXXion It’s gotta get to the point where regular people like us can’t
afford the payment on a $30k+ SXS and double wide
Time for a test against the competition! Curious how it handles without a sway bar in comparison.
Im an outlander rider and if I were to buy a new ATV today it would be another outty or maybe renegade but I hope Arctic Cat comes out with some nice big bore ATVs eventually. I just bought a 2022 arctic cat riot 8000 snowmobile last year and only have maybe 700 miles so far but it's been a great machine so far and am looking forward to the new chassis when the big bore comes out. I live in Minnesota though so it's nice knowing it was made here and parts are cheap and available. I hope the new ATVs are all made here too.
Awesome! Yes the new Cats are made in MN too! Hopefully the 600 is successful enough that we see more displacement options eventually!
Guess someone with extra cash needs to bite the bullet and take one of the team. Purchase one of these new Arctica Cats and run it hard for a year. Recruit a few friends to maximize the hours it is used in a day. Would be nice to see one get about 5k miles in a year and survive.
5K is a solid benchmark! I wish I could afford to do that.. I still bet my money on Japanese quality
Though I really like the look of the new mud pro, you compared it to both outlander 570MR and 570XMR models and said they both don’t have power steering when in fact the 570XMR has DPS, in addition to power steering, it also has 3 throttle modes, and a detuned 650 engine that can be easily tuned to make much more power (around the 62HP range). One thing that the new 600 mud pro has over the outlander is the CVTech clutch, which have been proven to be much more efficient in transferring power to the wheels over the can-am’s flawed clutches. I’ve since replaced my primary on my 2021 outlander 650Xmr with a CVTech and boy does it ever make a significant difference and I have it calibrated for peak power which is 8000RPM. I can only imagine how well the 600 mud pro will do in the deep stuff with great clutches and lower gears 👍
You're right I f'd that up... I'm sorry
@@DirtObseXXion no worries
Only two problems I have with my 2016 alterra 450, is the belt cover is very very hot.. and it could use a few more hp's.. It's a great lil quad though!
It's great to see competition in the market. I do however question what the heck those handlebars are on the Black Hills edition.
Lol! Straight off a snowmobile..
Awesome video. Very informative and well played. Thank you for your honest opinions 👍. Gave me the courage to pull that trigger on my new 2023 alterra black hills edition! Artic Cat should definitely be taken seriously in 2023 and into the next generation. First time atv buyer/ owner.
Thank you! Congratulations on getting your first ATV! I hope you love it!
How do you like the Black Hills edition? I'm thinking of buying one also here in MN. Does it feel stable or is it tippy? Is it comfortable to ride? Seems like the position is almost a stand up position. And how's the power? Enough for a heavy machine? Thanks in advance
@@charleshorwitz7214 I unfortunately spoke to soon. I was not able to obtain a black kills edition. But I did purchase the 2022 alterra 600 SE. And it is amazing I love it. Back to your question I also was wondering about the black hills edition being a bit unstable. But after riding the SE I couldn't imagine it would make a huge difference between 26 inch tires vs 28. The SE handles amazingly well. Smooth power steering. Plush comfortable ride. And power to spare! The new exhaust routing will raise the bar for all future makes and models. Game changer for sure.
@@shawnstock4000 thanks a lot Shawn. I appreciate you taking time to answer. I'm watching the Chadw08 you tube as he is riding his SE. That may be the version to get. Would you have elected the BH edition if available?
@@charleshorwitz7214 I am glad I went with the SE instead of BH. The BH edition might be a bit over doing it for my utility and riding style. There just isn't enough rock climbing to do in Indiana.
ATV on Demand gave this a very good review recently. These might be a sneaky good machine.
Yeah, there's some obligation there when Arctic Cat is bringing them to a media event.. But hopefully they prove to be good over time..
Looks like quality has improved a lot with these new models. But it’s hard to justify buying one at that price point when you can go with can am or polaris. Even though I’m not a fan of polaris right now with all of their recalls and quality control issues
I'd go with one of these over a Sportsman but you're 100% right, the other brands are more established.
I love the engine orientation. That is very interesting and unique. Would like to feel how it handles
Yeah it definitely does.. I haven't ridden one but I'd like to see how balanced it feels as well. Feels like a quality machine.
@@DirtObseXXion awesome. Always love more options for wheelers
It handles great!! Incredibly awesome machine for the Michigan Trails we love!
@@DirtObseXXion didn't take can-am long to copycat, huh? I love the new Alterra 600 and think they look great, especially the LTD and Black Hills Edition. Most people have been giving Artic Cat mediocre reviews on these but watch the same people will be praising Can-Am for the same machine, less premium wheels and tires, graphics and colors, and premium clutch.
I hope the arctic cat quads take hold and add a quality machine to the list manufacturers. The features of the upper end models rival that of the other atv companies and at quite a bit less money. With ease of access to the engine it appears spark plug and valve clearance settings would be a snap. To do a valve adjustment on my Grizzly 700, you will have the machine disassembled all over the place. I hope them the best with their redesigned 600’s. Quite a lineup with real world features people want on a quad.
I don't claim to speak generally for their snowmobile's popularity across America, but in Northeast Wisconsin people up here are in love with the brand and are loyal to Arctic Cat. I go to radar runs all winter and it's basically an Arctic Cat convention at each one whether it's snowmobiles, UTV's or ATV's. My friends here have had Arctic Cats and don't like the Polaris lineup.
All that being said, I'm seriously thinking about the Allterra Mud Pro in the powder Blue brush guard color shown in the video. Love the Black Hills Edition also, just wish they came in Flourescent colors Arctic Cats have had in previous models and snowmobiles because of visibility and, in my opinion at least, attractiveness. They look sharp.
I had been looking into the Argo 8x8's with Alaska Bush tracks, but can't justify that for the price of a new small truck!
Thanks for the video! 👍🏻🍻🏈🧀💚💛
Yeah I'd say anywhere you run snowmobiles, Arctic Cat is a little better known.. Unfortunately Arctic Cat as used to know them pretty much went bankrupt and sold the Brand to Textron.. So it's not tye same Cat that built that loyal following anymore
@@DirtObseXXion thanks for your reply, 👍🏻 it's too bad they're a Cat of a different stripe as they say. Hopefully 🤞 the new Mud Pro is the start of a good change for the better, but it's too soon to tell. In my opinion, a hallmark and telltale sign of a good product is the confidence in the product of a great warranty.
Can’t wait for the new can am outlander 700 review
I'm working on a video now, but obviously it will be pretty speculative since none of us knew they existed yesterday.. Weird move in my opinion.
I really want to like the Alterra , but 11k for a 600. Don't think I can do that. Right now I'm probably going with King quad 750. Black hills is sharp though.
I hated the Alterra 570, but these are definitely better.. Obviously I went with the KingQuad too, but I agree the Black Hills Edition is sharp! Feels huge too
@@DirtObseXXion that's what she said
@@knightimusprime25 🤣
@@DirtObseXXion 🤣
I mean Black Hills and Grizzly DPS SE are the same price, does Arctic cat stack up with performance and longevity of 700cc yami?
Thanks for another great video brother! Definitely happy that AC is trying to make a comeback, more options and competition is always good, but unfortunately I think its too little too late. I don't know many people who say they have confidence in AC machines. Only selling point was they can pick one up cheap. AC put out pieced together garbage (in comparison to competitors) for so long and the new models are kind if cool but not priced well enough to sway buyers from thier trusted brands IMO of course. That being said I hope I am wrong and I'm sure I would have fun ripping one around trails, best of luck to AC
Thanks brother! I pretty much feel the exact same way.. The Alterra 570 was so bad I hardly gave AC a thought the last couple years... Hopefully thier efforts are rewarded with the machine proves to be solid long term!
The Outlander XMR 570 does have DPS
Yeah I f'd that up, realized it after I posted the video. I'm sorry
AC needs to make waves with good durable engineering. Inject some performance into their machines along with reliability, handling and comfort.
We will just have to see the reliability factor. And how about maintenance? I've seen videos that maintenance was a nightmare.
It didn't look too bad but I didn't pull any plastic off.. I agree, more time will tell on reliability
I just came here for the hate comments 😂 I’m approaching 2500km with my LTD and love it BTW the first batch that came out late 2021 came with Duro power grip tires but due to inventory shortages now they come with kenda bearclaw EVO
I'm really glad to hear from an owner! Glad it's doing well for you!! Which tires do you have on yours? Have you had any issues you care to share even if it was covered by warranty? How's the maintenance, looks like it would be pretty easy? That's probably the highest mileage 600 I've heard about so I'm really interested in how it's holding up for you...
@@DirtObseXXion I have a 22 LTD wich as the bearclaw evo tires no issues so far as for maintenance some things aren’t as easy as a Polaris (previous quad was 18 scrambler 850)but the easy removable side panels make shores like oil change battery spark plug maintenance easy front diff oil change is a piece a cake rear transaxle tranny (the rear diff and tranny are one piece) you have to unbolt the bottom right rear A arm to get to your plugs but it’s not that bad (I had a few can am’s in my days)the hardest part is the air filter I think the fellow who designed it used to work in the mail room at cat you can check out jack of all trades channel on you tube he’s got a tracker 600 which is basically cats base alterra 600 he showed us how it was done ✅ BTW over here north of the border msrp on Japanese models have skyrocketed wich is one of the many reasons I went and bought the alterra but I could go on and on 😂
@@dave-atv-guy1049 Thanks for the feedback brother!
no brake lever on RH handlebar? How does the rider operate the front brakes?
The left side controls the front and rear brake... CanAm and Polaris have the same system. I prefer independent brake controls personally..
Arctic cat always gets the bad rap. My wildcat has been epic and well worth the money. I got a locking front diff and it didnt cost me an extra 5g like stupid can ams. Everyone has their opinion. The mud pro is the rig that started the catagory
Would love to see how the 600 mud pro competes with the can am 570 Mr and xmr , and the Honda rubicon 520 Mud pro that some dealerships custom build
Yes that would be a great comparison.
I recently just purchased a 2004 Sportsman 400 in absolutely pristine condition and I love it, it's been great so far. That being said, I would not buy a new sportsman 450, I genuinely believe there's enough metal in my 04 to make 2 newer ones, build quality is almost not even comparable. My 04 is built like an absolute tank, and it rides like one too. That being said I think this is great for Arctic cat & the ATV market in general, more manufacturers targeting not only the most bought class of ATV, but the 400-600 class atv has been the Japanese manufacturers house for years, so maybe it will put pressure on them to be more competitive with their offerings. I would love to see Kawasaki offer a 400-600 class 4x4 atv, it wouldn't be hard for them to do considering they sell a Kymco 300 2x4, kymco makes a 450 4x4 that Arctic cat once rebranded, so Kawi I'm sure could easily do that, or better yet make their own atv. Although I honestly heard too many terrible things about the kymco mxu450s.
I was happy they went to bass pro. It reduced the cost and made the XX affordable go fast. Possibly the cheapest fast sxs by far.
I hope they these machines turn out to be really good. I don't trust their quality just yet just like I don't trust Polaris quality I wish they were priced more in line with CFMOTO and the new Can Am ATV line up because in this sorry economy its extremely hard to justify spending that amount of money on small displacement ATVs when there are other really good options that are proven. Great video, I really like your dedication to bring the latest news on off road vehicles. keep up the good work.
Thanks Travis! I think you have some fair concerns and good points there..
I absolutely love my 2018 vlx 700 that I added relocate kit and snorkel. Only thing sometimes i wish i had the locking diff since i mud alot. But this 600 looks pretty sweet. And seems like a great deal.
Any updates? Haven't seen any type of reviews on Arctic Cats ATVs from anyone!
I would have thought the Artic Cat line would have a lower price point. All things considered I’d go wit a Polaris or Can Am.
For me, the arctic cat alterra 600 seemed like a very good design with the rear engine similar to that of a side by side, the only thing I liked was that they put the parallel twin 700 engine that the wild cat 700 sport had
I love my wildcat sport. The engines a lil beast
I really dont know much about arctic cat i road a 2up one once other than that do they use Suzuki engines still or do they make there own ?
The 600 is one they designed and manufacture in house.
The vtwin 650 was a Kawasaki engine back then too. Arctic cat just seems a bit behind everyone now.
My friend totaled my old arctic cat trv500. Might be replacing it this spring and I'm between an alterra 600 or a Rubicon 520
That's a good comparison.. Im not a fan of the Rubicon for fun riding but it's a reliable work horse with excellent build quality.. Let us know which way you end up going!
@Dirt ObseXXion I also have a foreman 350 and I absolutely love how it's almost a hybrid sport utility. Solid axle, shifting, and only 500 pounds, but you still get racks, 4wd, towing, etc. And they just last so long. I kind of just want a bigger version of that with fuel injection and eps. But these alterras are sexy
@@justinmochi7323 Yeah, solid axles are where it's at for sure! That's why we keep Raptors in the garage no matter what..
@Dirt ObseXXion have any of you guys had the chance to ride one of the Alterra 600's yet?
Nope... We did get to check out one of the new CanAm 700s.. That's a pretty impressive machine. We didn't film it or anything, just ran into someone who had it on the trails.
The BH edition sounds great ....on paper. Need to find out if it can walk the walk. I'm looking for a new utility quad for hunting. '08 Grizz is showing it's age. Slow technical trails, some mud, some snow, lots of hills and rocks, power to haul supplies and meat and good ergonomics. Leaning towards a Can-Am Hunting edition for comfort and features so far, but just a 650. No need for the 1000.
Just bought a black hills edition about a month ago. Still a bit soon to say how reliable it going to be but so far I've put 200km on it and its been great. Rides really plush, power is good for the engine size, ground clearance is amazing for rough trails. Doesn't have good storage like a sportsman but the stock rack risers help keeping everything on the racks. Downfall atm is no aftermarket parts available, that will hopefully change with time. The gear reduction is amazing for hill climbs, heavy mud, and big rock gardens where you just want to crawl through but top speed is pretty slow but its a give and take situation.
@@jusbox3 I ended up ordering the Can-Am 700. No AC dealership close enough to even look at one
Not even interested in these bikes but love the vids you guys put out!! 👍
IMO, the arctic cats look a little better than Canam or some of the Japanese bikes. And good luck to arctic cat, this market needs more competition to keep companies from getting too lazy regarding enhancing engineering, capability, and functionality.
Lol! Thanks brother! Good point, definitely hope competition helps drive the market but it looks like Kawasaki may have given up on the Brute Force 750 🤷♂️
I know you love the Grizzly atv’s. Have you ever wanted to experience where it all started? My dad has his ‘02 grizzly 660. The first year they came with IRS. If you want, you can come and see it. Would be a great idea to see where it started vs where it is now. How 20 years of ATV innovation progressed.
Oh man I appreciate that offer! We've been riding quads since we were kids.. My first wheeler was an 89 Yamaha Warrior! Is that old Grizzly still in good shape?
@@DirtObseXXion yup! On its 3rd belt, 4th carb rebuild, it sat for 3 years cause my dad hated to work on carbs. I leaned how to do it myself after a bad winter storm. We plow snow with it every winter. Got ITP Terra-Cross tires back in 2010-ish, still has them on over a decade later. Doesn’t get ridden much anymore. Only actually go camping 3-4 times a year. Maintaining a camper is quite the hassle😂. My dad upgraded from a ‘93 warrior 350. My first quad was a ‘03 Wolverine 350. Basically a 4x4 warrior/sportier bear tracker.
I wish the XT got the diff lock. Im in the market right now and would have pulled the trigger on an AC if it had true 4x4. I don't want the other fancy features and price of the other trim levels.
I wish they still made the 700s. that's literally the same exact engine as in my 2005 Suzuki KingQuad.
They should have bumped the displacement up a bit and marketed them as a 650
I think the 700 engine was a kymco engine, kymco made basically the exact same atv for less money.
@@gregrowe1168 nope, Suzuki Made it
It sounds like they have found their way after being lost for a while.
Hope so!
I like them but don’t see a camo or dark green I use it for hunting and when I get back to my stand I don’t need anything brightly colored
My cousin has a new polaris and its constantly broken
Nice looking machines. And that Black Hills Quad could become a player if it holds up.
However, Artic Cat needs to ask themselve this question:
Why would any consumer spend equal dollars on one of these units when they can buy one of the tried and true brands with a proven track record?
Off topic, is there a dirt obsexxion mech store?
They're banking on a legacy that was a little tarnished and hasn't been regained yet.. Im hoping these machines turn it around because we need more solid options!!!
Nah, we aren't trying to sell anything.. Maybe one day! Thanks for being here brother!
It’s an Arctic Cat. For the price I think it’s a tough sell. I think there are several people like myself out there that owned cats and vividly remember the build quality issues. The engine placement is goofy and looks like it’s hard to work on. Either way I agree it’s nice to see some new atv’s but I’ll stick with my king quads. This is just purely an opinion/guess but I bet my kings have better fit and finish, better reliability and better resale. As always thanks for keeping the ATV videos coming
Yeah I'll stick with my KQ, but the engine does make sense when you see it person.. Valve checks and oil changes should be pretty straightforward.. The only concern I had was access to the fuel pump if that were to go bad.. The location of the tank puts that pump under the engine.. I can't tell how difficult it would be if it needed to come out and fuel pumps seem to one of the more common components to go bad on ATVs.. It's hard to tell without ripping all the plastics off tho..
May as well start in the size and price range people are buying.
Makes sense in a board room..
As an owner of a 17 Alterra XT 700, here are my thoughts on Textron.
They killed off most dealerships when they did the Cabelas/bass pro tracker deal. Yet ive never seen a single ATV at our Cabelas.
They shit the bed with pricing. When you pooch the name, drop all dealerships to 1 in a province, and cant buy a tracker at Cabelas, how can you justify a premium price for a tarnished brand caused by stupidity and no dealer support?
my Alterra 700, its been rock solid and little maintenance.AC's have been very reliable and i attribute that to their partnerships with Suzuki and Yamaha
Im lucky that the only AC dealer left here is 5 min away. But with the tarnished brand name and price points, i dont think i would buy another, yet. And wouldnt think less of someone who did buy one.
I think the new Outlander 500/700 pricing has also just slapped AC in the face. I can pick up a 700 xmr for about $2000 less than the mud pro 600. And the MP looks like a solid Mach ne, but Can-Am takes the cake with oem accessories, dealerships, pricing, resale value, and not in the business of pooching the brand.
All in all, i love AC, but Textron has some fixing to do still. And these machines look like a step in the right direction, but their biggest issues are in business decisions, not the machines.
Very well said.. The naming debacle confused people, tracker devalued the brand, and CanAm dropped a pretty big bomb on the market!
No sway bar , which means a plush ride but body roll when cornering at speed !
Great point.. Actually makes sense for IRS articulation on the Black Hills Edition given its intention.. But it's something we'll keep an eye on if we grab one..
I've seen a couple reviews on this new line. The only thing I like is the unique engine placement, I think that's really cool. But I don't like the looks of the machine and I just don't see this brand convincing people who are in the market for a new machine that have several options to actually choose one.
Can't a manufacturer just make a NEW 2023 SPORT QUAD!!!!!!!!!! PLEASE
PLEAAAAASEEE!!!!
Hey I heard the air filters super easy to clean...
Not!!!💯. Good luck
Great information in the video. I still wouldn't buy one yet. I ride with guys that bought Artic Cat and they were better referred to as Artic Snap. This was several years ago so I hope things have changed. Time will tell.
I'm with you. Nothing tests reliability like time, and these are too new to the market to know for sure..
Outlander xmr 570 do indeed have power steering ,
Yes I realized I F'd that up after I posted this, im sorry.. Thanks for pointing that out..
You can add a winch to the can am xmr 570 and still be cheaper than the mud pro
Yep.. Power steering would be a little more challenging and expensive tho..
@@DirtObseXXion it come with DPS
Yeah winch isn’t that expensive.
When a company goes through a "bad rep" time in their history, it is often a difficult hole to climb out of. In some ways, I think while "Artic Cat" has name familiarity, it isn't good familiarity (though that's admittedly biased and subjective), so perhaps a rebranding would bid them well. Also, brands have lost creativity. Instead of making themselves stand out from competition (which all brands are guilty), they mimic it. Of course, one can say it is unnecessary to recreate the wheel, but sometimes putting old rubber on new rims will still land you in a ditch. Good luck to them.
Wish they’d bring back the wildcat sport 700 side by side 🤨
That was a good little machine
I think artic cat needs to lower there prices n get back with dealers. Bang for the buck goes to cfmoto. Also my nearest artic cat atv dealer is a 4 hour drive away. I have locat artic cat snow sled dealers but none of them will touch or stock an artic cat atv.
With CFMoto's build quality getting better by the day and their lineup offering much more powerful and decked out models for entry trim prices, Arctic cat is going to have a hard time competing. Entry quad prices are just too high now, why spend 12k on a 45hp quad when you can get a 79hp 1000cc machine with all the bells and whistles for 10k? Besides being priced up there with the established brands and not really offering anything special or innovative to entice buyers.
2 words.. Made in America 🤣🤣🤣
Awesome video as always . Arctic cat always reminded me of a company who’s failed engineers that got fired from the big boys ( Honda , Yamaha,Suzuki etc) all got together and made a company that cut corners . Ideas taken from every other company but nothing solid . I’ve owned 3 arctic cats and they were very sub par .
Ha! That's one way of looking at it! I thought of them as underdogs at least in ATVs as they were obviously snowmobile enthusiasts.. But Textron has the resources to throw into the brand if they really want too.. Im hoping the Alterra is successful enough that they continue to develop their ATV lineup
@@DirtObseXXion I absolutely want competition that is reliable . Makes the entire sport/hobby better . I hope they can break the mold but the price should start lower and increase if sales take off . Those tracker machines at bass pro were awful
You beat me to punch. I’ve also owned 3 Cats. A 250, 650 & the 700. Once I hit 1,500’miles on all of them they were junk. Sub par is the perfect description. I was always fixing something on those machines. Hopefully they have really improved.
BUDDY IM SORRY BUT YOU AREW WRONG. THEY THE TAN 570 XMR DOES HAVE POWER STEERING EVEN HAS A ITC THROTTLE. AND LOCKING FRONT DIFFERENTIAL
Yeah I f'd up... I'm sorry.. Thanks for adding that!