Scaling is interesting but getting someone’s take on how Dest would play out in the MV context is more interesting overall as there’s a lot to consider, meanwhile with power scaling Dest just sneezes and wins
@@Godzilla_Star_EaterHe didn’t lose to Godzilla per-se, he got finished off by humans using cryolasers because Destroyah’s weakness are extreme temperatures
@@JohnnyBravo2550 Didn't lose to Godzilla? What about when Burning Godzilla went meltdown mode and fired heat rays that pierce through destoroyah forcing him to retreat. I doubt those cryolasers alone could kill destoroyah if Godzilla never raised his body temperatures
@@Red_N819 godzilla only started to win cause he was heating up the entire area they were fighting in, weakening destroyah, then hitting him like 3 times with the infinite heatray, finally causing him to flee, which is where he was shot down and fell to the superheated ground, exploding. the whole fight dest was knocking godzilla around
Monarch statements for both kong and godzilla with the help of shimo, mothra and the humans, would give mid-end destroyah a tough time, but id still lean more towards destroyah, because of his greater speed from upscaling space godzilla and his endurance, mainly because of him surviving multiple hits from the infinite heat ray and still having enough energy to retreat if it werent for the humans interfering.
If Destroyah comes to the monsterverse, he needs to be an endgame level threat. I already got a good idea for a name and the movie poster tagline: Godzilla vs Destroyah: Final Apocalypse "Win or face extinction" Idk i wanted to make it a little metal
Other things to mention: Toys state that the BEAST Glove hits like a meteor. With Skar King, a normal flesh kaiju, not even being knocked out by a punch, it’s fair to say Godzilla and especially Shimo can tank a lot. Shimo has absolute 0 in her Frostbite Blast, meaning if she gets a shot on Destoroyah, if he doesn’t interrupt it quick enough, even he could get frozen, unless the Monsterverse adapts him to be even stronger.
That would do nothing to him he was hit by attacks that were absolute zero when he was a crab his evolved state has higher temperature resistance being able to tank infinite heat
Just an idea on how to add characters to the monsterverse Space Godzilla: created when some of Godzillas cells were sent into space from him using the thermo pulse in 2019! Destroyah: created when the oxygen destroyer missile was used in 2019! Hedorah: created from nuclear waste due to Scylla absorbing and destroying nuclear power plants!
i actually think an alien that was like godzilla on his planet but evolved to be more powerful and was more power hungry and flies across the universe absorbing stars solar systems nebulas to be stronger
What if destroyah in the monsterverse is that giant crab from skull island that fought the giant spider and it ended up where Godzilla got nuked by the oxygen destroyer
Honeslty, I don't see Kong doing much without some major help from the humans. Think about it, in all encounters with Godzilla he nearly killed every time. The "damage" Kong did to Godzilla at most either pissed him off more or KO for like 5 seconds, and he needed weapons both times just to even do that. With his encounter with Shimo, she nearly froze him to death twice. And couldn't deal with his teeth infection. This isn't a Kong hate post, just being realistic. Without human help, Kong is just an cool ape in a god(zilla) world.
Not even KO, only dazed. A fall from the stratosphere couldn't even knock godzilla out and that fall was far worse than anything Kong is capable of dishing.
And that’s what makes Kong interesting he never gives up and has a strong willpower that’s the point of his character he’s the underdog like Batman you don’t need to be strong or overpowered to be cool.
Honestly i don't think i can see them beating Destroyah, like just the shere multipliers and powercliffing is ridiculous for Heissei Godzilla and Destroyah legit boxes with him, also i saw a supergravity statement in a guide once which if it is true then it's not even a fight it's a massacre. DC Crossover isn't fair though, Kong didn't even have his ax nor gauntlent yet he had Grodd bowing to him and was smashing through GL's like butter and Godzilla legit matches Superman on top of enduring his blows multiple times throughout the run
You can scale Space Godzilla WAY WAY WAY HIGHER, he was stated to transcend the laws of physics and can manipulate and control supergravity. Destroyed many planets absorbed many supernovas and flew from the end of the Universe to Earth in a few days, which you can easily scale him to hundreds of billions-tens of trillions of times the speed of light, it was also stated he could destroy the solar system. His cell survived a Black hole with many exploding stars and created a White hole. Death Ghidorah was stated to be able to destroy the universe if he absorbed Earth's energy. Grand King Ghidorah has destroyed the universe. Two 4th dimensional spaces exist in the universe. Godzilla was stated to be the most powerful monster in the verse. Made SpaceGodzilla roaring in pain with his atomic breath despite being clearly weaker. Goji was also stated to be on par with Big Bang (which was below Space Godzilla). Destroyed many stars before arriving on Earth’s Moon, munched down a dying commet can light up the infinite Universe and could absorb limitless energy. And so much more you can easily scale him way above universal (not even considering every other statement about all the other Kaiju that’s weaker then him).
It won’t let me send the links for the statements, but here is the speed calculation. In Godzilla Vs Space Godzilla (1994), SpaceGodzilla flew through outer space so fast that star systems flow by. The Universe is also backed up as being infinite. Scene: Won’t show the link but it’s just space Godzilla arriving. Calculation Spacegodzilla was born from a black hole. The nearest black hole to Earth is 22,705,799,999,999,999,615,600,000 meters away. Spacegodzilla headed to our planet in mere days. Using a timespan of 3 days or 259200 seconds. 22,705,799,999,999,999,615,600,000 / 259,200 = 87,599,537,037,037,035,554 m/s or 292,200,603,115.362 c SpaceGodzilla's crystals moved 11.53 to 174.791 times faster than itself according to those calculations (can’t show). Low End: 292,200,603,115.362 * 11.53 = 3,369,072,953,920.131 c High End: 292,200,603,115.362 * 174.791 = 51,074,035,619,137.358 c Conclusion Spacegodzilla's crystals can moves at 3.369 trillions times FTL. (Space Goji himself easily is hundreds of billions-trillions of times faster aswell). The thing is, during 30 seconds of the dialogue or space Godzilla travels from boundaries of the solar system to Moon (near which the Cryog ship sitiuated). The solar system’s radius is aproximately 2 light years. The distance from the Sun to the Moon is 149597870700+384400000=149982270700 metres or 1,5853138521881e-5 light years. The distance from Edge of the solar system to the Moon is 199998415 light years. Using this speed calculator (can’t show), we get 630721348729698.1 m/s or 2103859.96 times the speed of light. SpaceGodzilla was literally fighting MOGUERA while traveling to the Earth at the same time, so yeah, it also applies to his combat speed. Can’t show link but you can find these links under Imgur Spacegodzilla’s origin (is the link for him destroying stars) can’t show link but you can find it on Twitter under Kiryu-MG3 and Erick Freitas statement, (where he absorbed 2 supernovas, and off screen Erick Freitas stated that he absorbed 600,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 supernovas off screen). It was also shown and stated his cell survived the Black hole and many exploding starts on top of that, where he then absorbed a supernova as you stated Chuck. Which is also under imgur space Godzilla’s origin (here is the statement of him surviving the Black hole and many supernovas as a tiny cell). It should also be noted that universal scaling was even possible in the Showa era, Heisei is far beyond that however you wanna go with it, I have seen scales for space Goji going as far as calling him complex Multi or baseline Multiversal. Seeing as he transcends the laws of physics, and has been stated to can manipulate and control supergravity, depending on how High ppl scale the cosmology.
*if* all that is accurate, and a logical viewing of the Heisei films would clearly say it is not, then there wouldn't even be a SpaceGodzilla. The world would have been destroyed in at least the third Heisei film. Invariably, what is shown by way of feats and power are far more reliable thatln what's stated. Because if you go with what's stated, Battra should have blasted a hole the size of the USA in the ground everytime he missed Godzilla in Godzilla V Mothra 2 but he doesn't. Either he was holding back and Godzilla wasn't tanking asteroid busting shots or the character who said that's how powerful Battra is was talking out their ass. And if SpaceGodzilla is a planet buster, then why is there a planet left to fight on or how did Moguera survive even one shot? He shot the ground as much as he shot either Godzilla or Moguera. Either he was holding back, which would be an asinine assumption, or his power is grossly overstated.
This was a good video, I never agree with the Heisei being stronger and more powerful than Showa that early on, it’s just something I don’t use. But this video was dope, loved the narrative version a lot. Such a dope thing to talk abt.
Monsterverse Destoroyah needs to legit feel like hell on Earth, like Ghidorah in KOTM, but magnified like a million times. He needs to be like a lovecraftian deity come to life.
@trapgod3193 It would be a total waste. He came after SpaceGodzilla and was regarded as a sort of "final boss" of the heisei Era. If you haven't seen the movie he's in, I would highly recommend checking it out along with the comic Godzilla in hell, as he is also in that. Definitely my favorite kaiju of all time from the Gozilla franchise.
I bet destroyah was already a life for in the making after that oxygen destroyer happened and “they” travel their way looking for radiation and dwell in Tiamat’s former home since Godzilla didn’t claim it and likes his coliseum.
Don’t forget Kong max level powers he’s literally stronger than earth Godzilla in the comics with full maxed out lightning powers and Shimo is basically his lover or best friend I don’t know their relationship but it a be crazy if she gives Kong some ice powers
As much as people will probably disagree with me if destroyah returns, I hope godzilla fights him alone. I always saw destroyah as godzillas ultimate foe and his greatest opponent and it makes sense considering destroyah was made from the oxygen destroyah, the two were practically made to be ultimate rivals. So having godzilla and kong fight him would kinda downgrade or mess up the overall impact, meaning, and overall feeling of destroyah. At least, in my opinion, I really don't want destroyah being another mecha godzilla, another opponent that must be jumped because it kinda ruins what he is for me I want destroyah to be the creature that truly puts godzilla to his limits and a battle that godzilla must overcome alone.
@@yonsetv5223that clearly can't be true because MV Godzilla at best only scales to planet level and I think we all know that a Superman at his full potential would never lose to Godzilla
Saying a single cell of soace godzilla withstood the entirety of a star going nova is a reach at best. The energy of a nova is omnidirectional, not point focused onto something the size of a cell. Unless the cell managed to encompass the entire star like a dyson sphere, than the amount of energy absorbed would be based on the cross sectional area of the cell perpendicular to the start and the distance from the nova which follows the inverse square law.
To those who think godzilla has immeasurable speed, whether it be due to space godzilla or because of mothera Leo traveling through time. The guides DISTINCTLY say mothera achieves time travel when she flys at the speed of light. This was even referenced in the movies. This does not mean mothera or anyone else has immeasurable speed. Same can be said about the powerpuff girls when they go back and fourth through time, him says it's because they went the speed of light. You have to keep in mind that speed and time travel work differently depending on the media, and in alot of media, all you have to do is achieve light speed to move through time
Godzilla Earth, Godzilla Ultima, and Heisei Godzilla vs The Triad from World of Darkness. I'm curious on your thoughts on the most powerful franchise in fiction,minus any fan characters and ocs.
@@marvelbladez993 I feel like Deviljho can survive for a really long time, most of the predators there can't do much against it Edit: not including Kaijus
Lol. Kong is the only reason why stupid lizard exists. Kong is the one who's gonna kill destoroyah. Cry harder. Stinky lizard better not fcking survive till that movie. These are just boundaries you don't cross. King Kong kills destoroyah
Would you try power scaling Kong sometime? I love him and the Big G, and I kinda wonder just how strong he actually is, and also what characters from other media he could face in interesting battles Though that said, I also struggle to think of any particular characters who could provide Kong with a fight that’s cool, close, and thematically interesting.
Hello Chuck! May I ask, does *this* scale to *Outerversal+?* *The √∞-Timelines, each containing an uncountable infinite-dimensional Hilbert spaces in their mathematical structures, with concepts for instances such as Aleph numbers (ℵ) and Platonism, while conceptually transcending pataphysics, quantum mechanics, infinity, yin (and yang), space (and time) and every other boundless number of concepts. All fundamentally existing and applying within their unquantifiable complexity, as well as a transcendentally incomprehensible immeasurable branches of possibilities and impossibilities included within their uncountable hierarchies of infinite narrations.*
They could do an Infinity War where they lose, and something else steps up to the plate. Maybe a send off to Legendary Godzilla and Kong and maybe bring in Gamera or someone else who was famous around the old Godzilla era.
I Think You Forgot About Destroyahs Main Weakness: Which Is Extreme Temperature's And Shimu Having A Beam That Is Stated To Be Absolute Zero And Considering Destroyah Died To Cryo Cannons Which Are Weaker Than Shimus Beam
He didn't die to the cyro beams he died from getting hit by the infinite heat rays, then get hit by the freeze rays, and they landing near godzilla who was about to go the meltdown.
Destroyahs weakness are extreme temps which killed him after the 0 freezing beams and Burning Godzillas beam I could see an ending where Shimo and Godzilla use their Frostbite blast and Atomic breath at the same time to kill him
The only weakness that destroyed has was extreme temperatures which means that shimo and Godzilla with their high and low extreme temperatures could weaken the titan and have kong, Rodan, Mothra and other titans to finish it off
I thought Destroyah would be a cool thing to show up in the Monsterverse. Instead of an ancient being that's beyond the scope of Mortal Ken, its a threat we have created for ourselves.
So many of the points made here do not make sense, Space Godzilla is stated to go around Mach 400 in his Crystalline space form not light speed, and legendary Godzilla has been stated to be able to run at around 400 Miles per hour (Example: Godzilla running at King Ghidorah in KOTM) power scaling just never works with whats actually possible within the universes (Edit: so apparently I was wrong, a quick run down to Wikizilla says that Space Godzilla can go near light speed in space, my bad)
Great job Chuck I believe destroyah will be able to beat Kong and Godzilla and I’m just curious how are you able to scale from the showa era to heisi are they cannon or connected in some way and keep up the amazing work
Yeah there are guidebooks that cross reference matchups between Heisei and Showa era monsters or that compare their stats and speeds. I will go more in depth with this in the future. Thanks for watching!
My opinion: Godzilla gets stronger and stronger every single movie, and if we are expecting 2-3 more movies before destroyah, he will be much much stronger as every movie he gets stronger by a huge margin. This would also increase his speed. And who knows he might even get more allies. Godzilla wouldn’t stand a chance against destroyah in a 1v1 just because DESTROYAH IS BUILT TO BEAT HIM IN EVERY WAY. But that’s another thing. Almost everything Godzilla has faced has been specifically made to beat him. Yet they never have. Godzilla has evolved to fight his weaknesses. Plus if he ever fights destroyah he has some other stuff which can help him: 1. Plot armour. 2. Whole ape civilisation. 3. Kong. 4. Shimo. Kong has even gotten stronger. Here we are comparing hesei destroyah to monster verse Godzilla.We don’t know if destroyah will be as strong in the monster verse. One more major thing he has on his side is HUMANS. Now that humans are on his side they will help him. And when hesei destroyah died it was humans x hensei Godzilla who beat him. Now destroyah could’ve been stronger but humans are gonna be helping the whole time. And after Godzilla’s buffs they can even feed him more radiation which would make him unstoppable. It would still be a close battle as the only reason destroyah exists is to end Godzilla. Godzilla already knows destroyah is coming that’s why he’s resting more often. This gives him time to prepare for destroyah. Thats just my opinion tho. (Destroyah if u read this I hate u)
Hmm....if dest ever comes to the monsterverse shimo would be the best bet against him tbh especially with in one the comics where angurius fights dest when hes blasted by a freeze ray it royally messed him up mostly by making him REALLY vulnerable to being damaged for alot longer cause after angurius got a rolling attack off on the hell crab while it was partially frozen he quickly retreated so if shimo can get a blast off on him he'll be in big trouble unless, qs someone else commented, he adapts to be stronger against being frozen
If Destroyah comes in the Monsterverse, the only monster who might gain a challenge to Destroyah is King Kongzilla, the fusion of Godzilla and King Kong.
Godzilla has become end of story arc Goku and even got a shounen transformation, so whatever he fights in the next movie needs to be truly powerful and dangerous. That being said, I don’t want big G to die! Especially since he wasn’t as big a player in the last movie.
Short answer? No. Kong insta dies to the oxygen destroyer ray, and it's just a 1v1 between Kong and Destoroyah. Depending on how they scale Destoroyah in the MV, if he's anything like the original then Godzilla would need a perma omni boost like Burning Godzilla had to stand a chance, but if they ever scaled Destoroyah down then I suppose the Evo boost Godzilla or a new transformation he'd get would help him win. Kong on the other hand stands no chance, he doesn't have a healing factor to resist Destoroyah's attacks sadly. Even if he could, let's say that the oxygen destroyer ray just kills cells in the body and Kong could take a hit or two, a variable slicer from Destoroyah's horn would cleave right through Kong's unarmored body.
@@DiegoGianluigiMigliaccio-wx5zc the oxygen destroyer ray, meant to act like a beam version of the oxygen destroyer bomb from the 1954 movie that basically kills all biological life. Godzilla only survived it because he had G-cells to regenerate enough to keep his cells from dying, but was still severely damaged by the attacks Destoroyah made against him. Kong has no special defensive abilities.
Imo, I don't want Kong to help Godzilla nor do I want Kong to be in the movie of Godzilla Vs Destoroyah at all. I want a full on Godzilla Vs Destoroyah (as in 1v1) with no aid from humanity or any other titan, this should be a fight on who proves to be the superior.. the balance keeper and the protector of the planet OR the balance disrupter and the destroyer of the planet.
Burning Godzilla was turning white due the effects of Destoroyah's Micro Oxygen Beam. So Godzilla was getting oxidized and destroyed chemically from the inside out and yet he kept fighting on. Destoroyah was the only thing on earth at the time that could have defeated Godzilla and they both were pressed for time. If Godzilla didnt defeat Destoroyah fast enough he would have lost and if Destoroyah didnt take Godzilla down fast enough, Godzilla's meltdown would have powered him up faster then either Destoroyah could evolve or for the Oxygen Destroyer to do its work and destory Godzilla from the inside out.
Destroyah in the monsterverse must be the Thanos. He might win round one but NOT round two. I really hope that the movie might be like Slick's Godzilla vs. Destroyah. Not only that Godzilla should be the only one to finish him since he hasn't killed the main villain in 2 movies.
Hey Chuck, just letting you know... "exahertz" is a unit of frequency, which doesn't really correspond to the magnitude of damage done to whatever it hits.
Raga maybe Kong dies instead of Godzilla Legendary and Toho have confirmed that Godzilla doesn't die but maybe Destoroyah would kill a Kong like Doomsday killed Superman in Batman V Superman then Godzilla is like Batman because in the end Batman isn't dead while Godzilla doesn't die as well
Team Destoroyah or Team Godzilla?
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Gotta go Godzilla even though im unsure if they have a chance
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Team Godzilla for sure
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Scaling is interesting but getting someone’s take on how Dest would play out in the MV context is more interesting overall as there’s a lot to consider, meanwhile with power scaling Dest just sneezes and wins
So why did he lose to Godzilla in Godzilla Vs Destoroyah
@@Godzilla_Star_EaterHe didn’t lose to Godzilla per-se, he got finished off by humans using cryolasers because Destroyah’s weakness are extreme temperatures
@@JohnnyBravo2550 Godzilla's beam is over 50,000°
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Didn't lose to Godzilla?
What about when Burning Godzilla went meltdown mode and fired heat rays that pierce through destoroyah forcing him to retreat. I doubt those cryolasers alone could kill destoroyah if Godzilla never raised his body temperatures
@@Red_N819 godzilla only started to win cause he was heating up the entire area they were fighting in, weakening destroyah, then hitting him like 3 times with the infinite heatray, finally causing him to flee, which is where he was shot down and fell to the superheated ground, exploding. the whole fight dest was knocking godzilla around
Monarch statements for both kong and godzilla with the help of shimo, mothra and the humans, would give mid-end destroyah a tough time, but id still lean more towards destroyah, because of his greater speed from upscaling space godzilla and his endurance, mainly because of him surviving multiple hits from the infinite heat ray and still having enough energy to retreat if it werent for the humans interfering.
If Destroyah comes to the monsterverse, he needs to be an endgame level threat.
I already got a good idea for a name and the movie poster tagline:
Godzilla vs Destroyah: Final Apocalypse
"Win or face extinction"
Idk i wanted to make it a little metal
Sounds good!
EXCELLENT WORK. CHUCK
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Yes I also said the same thing in a different YT video He should be Endgames Thanos
Instead of Destoroyah being the endgame threat of the Monsterverse, it should be Bagan. Bagan deserves the chance to finally be in a movie.
Other things to mention:
Toys state that the BEAST Glove hits like a meteor. With Skar King, a normal flesh kaiju, not even being knocked out by a punch, it’s fair to say Godzilla and especially Shimo can tank a lot. Shimo has absolute 0 in her Frostbite Blast, meaning if she gets a shot on Destoroyah, if he doesn’t interrupt it quick enough, even he could get frozen, unless the Monsterverse adapts him to be even stronger.
A continued blast would probably subdue him during and a little after the duration
I'm pretty sure Destoroyah is fast enough to dodge it
@@Theamericannightmar7 Yeah I believe Destoroyah would win
@@Theamericannightmar7 Yea, there's gonna be a lot of collateral damage if they're at a city
That would do nothing to him he was hit by attacks that were absolute zero when he was a crab his evolved state has higher temperature resistance being able to tank infinite heat
Just an idea on how to add characters to the monsterverse
Space Godzilla: created when some of Godzillas cells were sent into space from him using the thermo pulse in 2019!
Destroyah: created when the oxygen destroyer missile was used in 2019!
Hedorah: created from nuclear waste due to Scylla absorbing and destroying nuclear power plants!
i actually think an alien that was like godzilla on his planet but evolved to be more powerful and was more power hungry and flies across the universe absorbing stars solar systems nebulas to be stronger
That’s just 3 movie plots
@ it’s just ideas on how to bring more classic monsters in to the universe. I’d love to hear different theories!
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Begone Mothra! *YOU CANNOT STOP THE GODKONG BROMANCE!*
Begone THOTra
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Stop? She made it happen like any supportive wife.
@@geekymetalhead5112 Stil very cringe
@@christopherhu7189 She's probably benefitting from this too! Why wouldn't she, apart from Goji's happiness?
What if destroyah in the monsterverse is that giant crab from skull island that fought the giant spider and it ended up where Godzilla got nuked by the oxygen destroyer
Honeslty, I don't see Kong doing much without some major help from the humans. Think about it, in all encounters with Godzilla he nearly killed every time. The "damage" Kong did to Godzilla at most either pissed him off more or KO for like 5 seconds, and he needed weapons both times just to even do that. With his encounter with Shimo, she nearly froze him to death twice. And couldn't deal with his teeth infection. This isn't a Kong hate post, just being realistic. Without human help, Kong is just an cool ape in a god(zilla) world.
Not even KO, only dazed. A fall from the stratosphere couldn't even knock godzilla out and that fall was far worse than anything Kong is capable of dishing.
@@whoanelly2605 aside from that Kong managed to do that since Godzilla has no dea about the new weapon 😂
That's true. Kong would need some serious armor in order to actually hold against Destoroyah
And that’s what makes Kong interesting he never gives up and has a strong willpower that’s the point of his character he’s the underdog like Batman you don’t need to be strong or overpowered to be cool.
@@sonicmoore6196 lol Batman undersdog? He is walking roided plot armor. His character doesn’t even make sense beating godly beings.
“Could Godzilla and Kong beat Destoroy-“
*no*
“Could the entire Monsterverse working together as one beat Destoro-“
*no. . . Ok maybe*
Not a chance allot of feats that destroy should of had we’re not given in this video
They can’t take down me 🗿
They can't. But I can.🗿💯
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Honestly i don't think i can see them beating Destroyah, like just the shere multipliers and powercliffing is ridiculous for Heissei Godzilla and Destroyah legit boxes with him, also i saw a supergravity statement in a guide once which if it is true then it's not even a fight it's a massacre. DC Crossover isn't fair though, Kong didn't even have his ax nor gauntlent yet he had Grodd bowing to him and was smashing through GL's like butter and Godzilla legit matches Superman on top of enduring his blows multiple times throughout the run
The Super Gravity is for Space G who Destroyah upscales.
Too early there is a perfect set up for Space Godzilla to enter in the Monsterverse so bringing Destoroyah now doesn’t make sense to me
Kong now has Shimo, Suko, and the apes loyal to him. So a video on the kingdom of kong vs some group would go hard.
Destroyah gonna slaughter them all
Fr I'm more interested in shimo and kong and the apes then anything else gz meh just my opinion
I'm currently researching a video about all the Godzilla's from my childhood and this video was super useful, thanks
The comments are either “Destoroyah can’t lose” or “I hope we see Destoroyah in the MV”
Awesome video Chuck!
Thanks 👍
Love the Godzilla/Kaiju content! I also like the narrative way you've done the last few vs videos: keep it up!
Glad you like them!
If Destoroyah were to ever join the Monsterverse, he's definitely gotta reference Doomsday a lot.
You can scale Space Godzilla WAY WAY WAY HIGHER, he was stated to transcend the laws of physics and can manipulate and control supergravity. Destroyed many planets absorbed many supernovas and flew from the end of the Universe to Earth in a few days, which you can easily scale him to hundreds of billions-tens of trillions of times the speed of light, it was also stated he could destroy the solar system. His cell survived a Black hole with many exploding stars and created a White hole. Death Ghidorah was stated to be able to destroy the universe if he absorbed Earth's energy. Grand King Ghidorah has destroyed the universe. Two 4th dimensional spaces exist in the universe. Godzilla was stated to be the most powerful monster in the verse. Made SpaceGodzilla roaring in pain with his atomic breath despite being clearly weaker. Goji was also stated to be on par with Big Bang (which was below Space Godzilla). Destroyed many stars before arriving on Earth’s Moon, munched down a dying commet can light up the infinite Universe and could absorb limitless energy. And so much more you can easily scale him way above universal (not even considering every other statement about all the other Kaiju that’s weaker then him).
Interesting, where is the supernovas and end of the universe thing stated?
It won’t let me send the links for the statements, but here is the speed calculation. In Godzilla Vs Space Godzilla (1994), SpaceGodzilla flew through outer space so fast that star systems flow by. The Universe is also backed up as being infinite.
Scene: Won’t show the link but it’s just space Godzilla arriving.
Calculation
Spacegodzilla was born from a black hole.
The nearest black hole to Earth is 22,705,799,999,999,999,615,600,000 meters away.
Spacegodzilla headed to our planet in mere days.
Using a timespan of 3 days or 259200 seconds.
22,705,799,999,999,999,615,600,000 / 259,200 = 87,599,537,037,037,035,554 m/s or 292,200,603,115.362 c
SpaceGodzilla's crystals moved 11.53 to 174.791 times faster than itself according to those calculations (can’t show).
Low End: 292,200,603,115.362 * 11.53 = 3,369,072,953,920.131 c
High End: 292,200,603,115.362 * 174.791 = 51,074,035,619,137.358 c
Conclusion
Spacegodzilla's crystals can moves at 3.369 trillions times FTL. (Space Goji himself easily is hundreds of billions-trillions of times faster aswell). The thing is, during 30 seconds of the dialogue or space Godzilla travels from boundaries of the solar system to Moon (near which the Cryog ship sitiuated). The solar system’s radius is aproximately 2 light years. The distance from the Sun to the Moon is 149597870700+384400000=149982270700 metres or 1,5853138521881e-5 light years. The distance from Edge of the solar system to the Moon is 199998415 light years. Using this speed calculator (can’t show), we get 630721348729698.1 m/s or 2103859.96 times the speed of light.
SpaceGodzilla was literally fighting MOGUERA while traveling to the Earth at the same time, so yeah, it also applies to his combat speed.
Can’t show link but you can find these links under Imgur Spacegodzilla’s origin (is the link for him destroying stars) can’t show link but you can find it on Twitter under Kiryu-MG3 and Erick Freitas statement, (where he absorbed 2 supernovas, and off screen Erick Freitas stated that he absorbed 600,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 supernovas off screen). It was also shown and stated his cell survived the Black hole and many exploding starts on top of that, where he then absorbed a supernova as you stated Chuck. Which is also under imgur space Godzilla’s origin (here is the statement of him surviving the Black hole and many supernovas as a tiny cell). It should also be noted that universal scaling was even possible in the Showa era, Heisei is far beyond that however you wanna go with it, I have seen scales for space Goji going as far as calling him complex Multi or baseline Multiversal. Seeing as he transcends the laws of physics, and has been stated to can manipulate and control supergravity, depending on how High ppl scale the cosmology.
@@xdevilxx-_-demons3263bro go to sleep it’s not that serious 💀💀💀
@@ChiraqGoblin
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*if* all that is accurate, and a logical viewing of the Heisei films would clearly say it is not, then there wouldn't even be a SpaceGodzilla. The world would have been destroyed in at least the third Heisei film. Invariably, what is shown by way of feats and power are far more reliable thatln what's stated. Because if you go with what's stated, Battra should have blasted a hole the size of the USA in the ground everytime he missed Godzilla in Godzilla V Mothra 2 but he doesn't. Either he was holding back and Godzilla wasn't tanking asteroid busting shots or the character who said that's how powerful Battra is was talking out their ass. And if SpaceGodzilla is a planet buster, then why is there a planet left to fight on or how did Moguera survive even one shot? He shot the ground as much as he shot either Godzilla or Moguera. Either he was holding back, which would be an asinine assumption, or his power is grossly overstated.
Gojira gonna need to call his cousin, Shin Ultraman, for help lol.
Been watching your videos for years, love them Keep up the great work
Much appreciated!
This was a good video, I never agree with the Heisei being stronger and more powerful than Showa that early on, it’s just something I don’t use.
But this video was dope, loved the narrative version a lot. Such a dope thing to talk abt.
Thanks for watching!
Monsterverse Destoroyah needs to legit feel like hell on Earth, like Ghidorah in KOTM, but magnified like a million times. He needs to be like a lovecraftian deity come to life.
Another goated video is here.
You already know
They should most definitely NOT use Destoroyah this early.
Never knew how strong Destroya was until this, now I'm really hoping they don't bring him in so early
@trapgod3193 It would be a total waste. He came after SpaceGodzilla and was regarded as a sort of "final boss" of the heisei Era. If you haven't seen the movie he's in, I would highly recommend checking it out along with the comic Godzilla in hell, as he is also in that. Definitely my favorite kaiju of all time from the Gozilla franchise.
I bet destroyah was already a life for in the making after that oxygen destroyer happened and “they” travel their way looking for radiation and dwell in Tiamat’s former home since Godzilla didn’t claim it and likes his coliseum.
I really hope Destoroyah will make his appearance in the monsterverse soon.
I think Adam Wingard stated that he would include Destoroyah in one of the Godzilla x Kong movies, so yes it's possible.
@@clericwhomakes Adam Wingard has officially been dropped as the director for the next film.
@@hammerreborn7559 aw bummer
@@hammerreborn7559good, need less kong
Dest is overrated
Destoroyah be all gangster till Kong summons Shimo.
Don’t forget Kong max level powers he’s literally stronger than earth Godzilla in the comics with full maxed out lightning powers and Shimo is basically his lover or best friend I don’t know their relationship but it a be crazy if she gives Kong some ice powers
@@redhunnid5142I don't think this Kong has lighting.
Dest claps shimo💀
@@Minillaboi12dest will get ptsd from the original movie
cough cough humans freezing their wings
@@sirswrv dest would still destroy shimo
Low key hope we really do see destroyah soon in the mv
You want it to end that quickly????😢
Facts plus Destroyah shares my Bday year 1995
As much as people will probably disagree with me if destroyah returns, I hope godzilla fights him alone. I always saw destroyah as godzillas ultimate foe and his greatest opponent and it makes sense considering destroyah was made from the oxygen destroyah, the two were practically made to be ultimate rivals. So having godzilla and kong fight him would kinda downgrade or mess up the overall impact, meaning, and overall feeling of destroyah. At least, in my opinion, I really don't want destroyah being another mecha godzilla, another opponent that must be jumped because it kinda ruins what he is for me I want destroyah to be the creature that truly puts godzilla to his limits and a battle that godzilla must overcome alone.
Kinda agree with you
I totally agree with you 💯
Yoooo, I've been waiting for this!!
Hope you enjoyed it!
Chuck I noticed that your editing got a lot better
Heisei era is easily my favorite. So would love a Heisei era video
I go with team destroyah , plus Godzilla vs Justice league vs Kong is not cannon as confirmed . I don't see them winning
Doesn't matter if its canon or not. Its a hypothetical
Not canon but that superman was stated as powerful as current superman by the author
@@yonsetv5223that clearly can't be true because MV Godzilla at best only scales to planet level and I think we all know that a Superman at his full potential would never lose to Godzilla
@@ashuraomega1000 bro superman is as powerful as the writer makes him, that's how it is for godzilla as well
Destoryah is a literal demi-god
The devil. He would've destroyed the entire universe as Destroyah was an ever evolving creature growing more powerful with each form.
Imagine Godzilla and Kong vs. King Ghidorah and Destoroyah at the same time? I think the heroes will be toast.
Destoroyah went from being the final boss of Hesei to the raid boss of today's Goji team.
unpopular opinion , they need to make a strictly Godzilla solo movie
FTL Godzilla is sooo dope Awesome video Chuck!!!!
Agreed!!
Destroyah : I hope they remember you
Destroyah is way too early he’s definitely going to be in at the end of the Monsterverse.
If a potential MV Destoroyah had similar weaknesses to his OG counterpart, Shimo would be hella clutch in the fight. Ice go crazy
Did u think shimo's ice breath is enough to froze godzilla? Let alone destoroyah man 😢
@@aryaa.h.9665 I mean I don’t have to think so when that literally happened in the film
Keep up the good work
Thanks, will do!
Kong Gonna get the Junior Treatment 💀💀💀
Saying a single cell of soace godzilla withstood the entirety of a star going nova is a reach at best. The energy of a nova is omnidirectional, not point focused onto something the size of a cell. Unless the cell managed to encompass the entire star like a dyson sphere, than the amount of energy absorbed would be based on the cross sectional area of the cell perpendicular to the start and the distance from the nova which follows the inverse square law.
To those who think godzilla has immeasurable speed, whether it be due to space godzilla or because of mothera Leo traveling through time. The guides DISTINCTLY say mothera achieves time travel when she flys at the speed of light. This was even referenced in the movies. This does not mean mothera or anyone else has immeasurable speed. Same can be said about the powerpuff girls when they go back and fourth through time, him says it's because they went the speed of light. You have to keep in mind that speed and time travel work differently depending on the media, and in alot of media, all you have to do is achieve light speed to move through time
Don't get me wrong, i love big Zilla as much as the next person, but Destoroyah man...bro just dont miss
Godzilla Earth, Godzilla Ultima, and Heisei Godzilla vs The Triad from World of Darkness. I'm curious on your thoughts on the most powerful franchise in fiction,minus any fan characters and ocs.
We got Earth, a huge beast capable of killing Gods, Ultima, a Multiversal God and Heisei, one of the most durable Godzillas
Distroya: stand proud your strong
How long could Deviljho (Monster Hunter) survive on Skull Island?
No
@@marvelbladez993 I feel like Deviljho can survive for a really long time, most of the predators there can't do much against it
Edit: not including Kaijus
I got one better
Deviljho in Hollow Earth
Deviljho would slaughter those flora faunas
Kong better not be anywhere fucking near that movie. That is a Godzilla movie and there are just boundaries you don't cross.
Lol. Kong is the only reason why stupid lizard exists. Kong is the one who's gonna kill destoroyah. Cry harder.
Stinky lizard better not fcking survive till that movie. These are just boundaries you don't cross. King Kong kills destoroyah
Humans: burning Godzilla is having a meltdown and he’s about to explode 😨😱
Burning Godzilla: dam I got gas
There's nothing wrong about your editing from your other videos it's just that this setting here is more clean and more entertaining to watch
Why not biolante or spacegodzilla?
If you are including shimo. Shimo hasnt been damaged at all visibly and has all the advantages over destroyah ice being key
SSJ farmer with shotgun vs destroyah, who would win?
SSJ farmer with shotgun
Destroyah with a Shotgun
Would you try power scaling Kong sometime? I love him and the Big G, and I kinda wonder just how strong he actually is, and also what characters from other media he could face in interesting battles
Though that said, I also struggle to think of any particular characters who could provide Kong with a fight that’s cool, close, and thematically interesting.
Hello Chuck! May I ask, does *this* scale to *Outerversal+?*
*The √∞-Timelines, each containing an uncountable infinite-dimensional Hilbert spaces in their mathematical structures, with concepts for instances such as Aleph numbers (ℵ) and Platonism, while conceptually transcending pataphysics, quantum mechanics, infinity, yin (and yang), space (and time) and every other boundless number of concepts. All fundamentally existing and applying within their unquantifiable complexity, as well as a transcendentally incomprehensible immeasurable branches of possibilities and impossibilities included within their uncountable hierarchies of infinite narrations.*
They could do an Infinity War where they lose, and something else steps up to the plate. Maybe a send off to Legendary Godzilla and Kong and maybe bring in Gamera or someone else who was famous around the old Godzilla era.
I'm calling it now !! Shimo will die in the final film
I think so too!
I Think You Forgot About Destroyahs Main Weakness:
Which Is Extreme Temperature's And Shimu Having A Beam That Is Stated To Be Absolute Zero And Considering Destroyah Died To Cryo Cannons Which Are Weaker Than Shimus Beam
He didn't die to the cyro beams he died from getting hit by the infinite heat rays, then get hit by the freeze rays, and they landing near godzilla who was about to go the meltdown.
All Legendary needs is one solid speed feat and he's coming for that crown! 😤
Destroyahs weakness are extreme temps which killed him after the 0 freezing beams and Burning Godzillas beam I could see an ending where Shimo and Godzilla use their Frostbite blast and Atomic breath at the same time to kill him
The new one is gonna be called "Godzilla: Destroy All Monsters"
The only weakness that destroyed has was extreme temperatures which means that shimo and Godzilla with their high and low extreme temperatures could weaken the titan and have kong, Rodan, Mothra and other titans to finish it off
I thought Destroyah would be a cool thing to show up in the Monsterverse. Instead of an ancient being that's beyond the scope of Mortal Ken, its a threat we have created for ourselves.
So many of the points made here do not make sense, Space Godzilla is stated to go around Mach 400 in his Crystalline space form not light speed, and legendary Godzilla has been stated to be able to run at around 400 Miles per hour (Example: Godzilla running at King Ghidorah in KOTM) power scaling just never works with whats actually possible within the universes
(Edit: so apparently I was wrong, a quick run down to Wikizilla says that Space Godzilla can go near light speed in space, my bad)
how Dest would play out in the MV context is more interesting
Destroyah can be argued to be infinitely 5th dimensional i think it's pretty fair so I'd say destroyah slams
Destroya all day everyday. RIP Gman
Great job Chuck I believe destroyah will be able to beat Kong and Godzilla and I’m just curious how are you able to scale from the showa era to heisi are they cannon or connected in some way and keep up the amazing work
Yeah there are guidebooks that cross reference matchups between Heisei and Showa era monsters or that compare their stats and speeds. I will go more in depth with this in the future. Thanks for watching!
I can see Destroyah being the final boss like Thanos.
It should be like years into the future (Maybe after Pacific Rim Jaegers are added) 😮
i swear they put the oxygen destroyer just for this
If they started to introduce destroyah over time that would make me very happy.
Mothra better not have to sacrifice herself again for the Big G, and I'm afraid it might not be enough to stop the Big D 😏
How long did this take you to do this?
Couple days, but I had finished the OG version like a few weeks ago before the hard drive failure.
@@Chuck so what’s the next video going to be?
i get the destoroyah hype but could he really win a 3v1 situation against godzilla,shimo, and kong?
My opinion:
Godzilla gets stronger and stronger every single movie, and if we are expecting 2-3 more movies before destroyah, he will be much much stronger as every movie he gets stronger by a huge margin. This would also increase his speed. And who knows he might even get more allies. Godzilla wouldn’t stand a chance against destroyah in a 1v1 just because DESTROYAH IS BUILT TO BEAT HIM IN EVERY WAY. But that’s another thing. Almost everything Godzilla has faced has been specifically made to beat him. Yet they never have. Godzilla has evolved to fight his weaknesses. Plus if he ever fights destroyah he has some other stuff which can help him:
1. Plot armour.
2. Whole ape civilisation.
3. Kong.
4. Shimo.
Kong has even gotten stronger. Here we are comparing hesei destroyah to monster verse Godzilla.We don’t know if destroyah will be as strong in the monster verse. One more major thing he has on his side is HUMANS. Now that humans are on his side they will help him. And when hesei destroyah died it was humans x hensei Godzilla who beat him. Now destroyah could’ve been stronger but humans are gonna be helping the whole time. And after Godzilla’s buffs they can even feed him more radiation which would make him unstoppable. It would still be a close battle as the only reason destroyah exists is to end Godzilla. Godzilla already knows destroyah is coming that’s why he’s resting more often. This gives him time to prepare for destroyah. Thats just my opinion tho. (Destroyah if u read this I hate u)
About time with this
If Godzilla and Kong work perfectly together, then probably yes
If not they are DoA
I would like to see the Great Apes fight against the Gargantuas. Imagine a war between both monster species in the hollow earth!
Hmm....if dest ever comes to the monsterverse shimo would be the best bet against him tbh especially with in one the comics where angurius fights dest when hes blasted by a freeze ray it royally messed him up mostly by making him REALLY vulnerable to being damaged for alot longer cause after angurius got a rolling attack off on the hell crab while it was partially frozen he quickly retreated so if shimo can get a blast off on him he'll be in big trouble unless, qs someone else commented, he adapts to be stronger against being frozen
If Destroyah comes in the Monsterverse, the only monster who might gain a challenge to Destroyah is King Kongzilla, the fusion of Godzilla and King Kong.
Lol
He needs to be huge
Godzilla has become end of story arc Goku and even got a shounen transformation, so whatever he fights in the next movie needs to be truly powerful and dangerous. That being said, I don’t want big G to die! Especially since he wasn’t as big a player in the last movie.
Did they tease destroyah in the movie?Haven't seen it but noticed lot of people posting about legendary godzilla vs him
Short answer? No. Kong insta dies to the oxygen destroyer ray, and it's just a 1v1 between Kong and Destoroyah. Depending on how they scale Destoroyah in the MV, if he's anything like the original then Godzilla would need a perma omni boost like Burning Godzilla had to stand a chance, but if they ever scaled Destoroyah down then I suppose the Evo boost Godzilla or a new transformation he'd get would help him win. Kong on the other hand stands no chance, he doesn't have a healing factor to resist Destoroyah's attacks sadly. Even if he could, let's say that the oxygen destroyer ray just kills cells in the body and Kong could take a hit or two, a variable slicer from Destoroyah's horn would cleave right through Kong's unarmored body.
What does it mean that kong dies the cause of the destructive ray?
@@DiegoGianluigiMigliaccio-wx5zc the oxygen destroyer ray, meant to act like a beam version of the oxygen destroyer bomb from the 1954 movie that basically kills all biological life. Godzilla only survived it because he had G-cells to regenerate enough to keep his cells from dying, but was still severely damaged by the attacks Destoroyah made against him. Kong has no special defensive abilities.
@@Fang1st Maybe you say destoroyah killing kong?
Imo, I don't want Kong to help Godzilla nor do I want Kong to be in the movie of Godzilla Vs Destoroyah at all. I want a full on Godzilla Vs Destoroyah (as in 1v1) with no aid from humanity or any other titan, this should be a fight on who proves to be the superior.. the balance keeper and the protector of the planet OR the balance disrupter and the destroyer of the planet.
Wait, Chuck are you the guy from the Godzilla: Destroy All Podcasts podcast?
Sorry i coundent come to your live streams i was bissy with school
Just go the Destroy All Monsters route where Godzilla uses his alpha call to summon all the titans against Destroyah with half of them dying.
Burning Godzilla was turning white due the effects of Destoroyah's Micro Oxygen Beam. So Godzilla was getting oxidized and destroyed chemically from the inside out and yet he kept fighting on. Destoroyah was the only thing on earth at the time that could have defeated Godzilla and they both were pressed for time. If Godzilla didnt defeat Destoroyah fast enough he would have lost and if Destoroyah didnt take Godzilla down fast enough, Godzilla's meltdown would have powered him up faster then either Destoroyah could evolve or for the Oxygen Destroyer to do its work and destory Godzilla from the inside out.
no.
Destroyah in the monsterverse must be the Thanos. He might win round one but NOT round two. I really hope that the movie might be like Slick's Godzilla vs. Destroyah. Not only that Godzilla should be the only one to finish him since he hasn't killed the main villain in 2 movies.
Hey Chuck, just letting you know... "exahertz" is a unit of frequency, which doesn't really correspond to the magnitude of damage done to whatever it hits.
Destoroyha in the new DC- Godzilla Comic would be amazing.
2:27 hell nahh!!!!!!!!! I will never let that shi slide 😡😡😡
Raga maybe Kong dies instead of Godzilla Legendary and Toho have confirmed that Godzilla doesn't die but maybe Destoroyah would kill a Kong like Doomsday killed Superman in Batman V Superman then Godzilla is like Batman because in the end Batman isn't dead while Godzilla doesn't die as well
imagine goku was in the godzilla universe:
Hey i heard u were strong