I think its admirable to stand up for what you believe in. I also feel it's important to accept the fact that you could be wrong. Especially on the subject of god. Let's be clear on 1 thing if any. I wish you were right and that god existed and the fairytale comes true. Let's cover some stuff. Yes, you can gain favor from god “A good man obtaineth favour of the LORD…” - Proverbs 12:2 Dying on the cross to save us. Sounds great! But explain how that works🤔 People sinned before and apologized and asked for forgiveness...but not to a deity, but the person or people they transgressed. How is the son of god dying make a difference in the lives that have past and the ones ahead? There is no correlation between the two. If i said "I will bear the burden of your rent so that you will be able to eat." That would make sense. He never died. His body perished. An easy feat for a god. Resurrection. The bible was written 70 yrs+ after his death. One of two possibilities here. Great parlor trick as there were many charlatans in that day. Or this story was added for theatrics. The romans didn't document it. Hung around for a couple months there and then magically floated up into the sky to take his place on the right side of his dad. …he that goeth down to the grave shall come up no more. ” - Job 7:9 I've read about this heaven place. Its EXACTLY the same format kingdoms used in that day. Why would god need to be a king? Why did he need servants? Why did he need praise? When you are omnipresent and omniscient, you don't need these petty things.
First, I’d like to say that, yes, I have considered if I am wrong before. However, due to many more reasons that I will explain in the following weeks, I do believe that God exists. But let’s say that I am wrong. If there is no God, then we are no better or worse of if we die. We would simply cease to exist. However, if there is a God, we can either spend eternity with Him in Heaven, which is far more wonderful than any of us can possibly imagine. Or we can go to Hell, which is so much more terrible than any suffering anyone on Earth has yet experienced. Second, if we sin or do wrong, we haven’t just sinned against people. We have sinned against God because He has set up laws that we break when we sin. Third, Jesus was able to take the punishment that we deserved because He was the only person to ever have lived a perfect life. God saw His sacrifice and was able to forgive us because of the sacrifice Jesus made. Also, yes, Jesus did die. Most historians would agree that Jesus did exist as a human being, and that He was crucified. Even if we want to take the logic that He didn’t die because He still existed as a spirit, He also experienced spiritual death when He went to Hell as part of His sacrifice. So yes, Jesus did in fact die. But then He rose from the dead. When it comes to the accounts Jesus’ life in the Gospels, these people were close followers of Jesus. You would think that if you wrote a book about how your best friend died and rose from the dead, you would still remember the key events, even if it was 50 years later. Lastly, does God need worship, servants, and adoration? No, He doesn’t. He is deserving of it, but He doesn’t need it. Our worshipping God is a way we show appreciation and honor to Him, but He doesn't need it as a necessity for His existence or survival.
@whybelieveGod if god does not exist, how do you know that when we die, that will be the end? You see, long before Jesus, God's were worshipped just as they are now. Christianity copied many of the core ideas from paganism. As a matter of fact, Christianity blended into the pagan world so as to be accepted. Gods have come and gone loooong before Jesus. Historians proved all this. Yes, he existed. But the resurrection was only in the bible. As for heaven and hell, that is what we call the risk and reward program. All disciplinary action will give something you fear. Fire is at the top of the list as the worst way to die.If god was real, we wouldn't look up as if he was in the sky. He would be everywhere. As humans got smarter, they were no longer tricked by the likes of Zeus or Hades. All today's religions claim to promote that they are the one true religion. How can that be? According to Christianity, that means a lot of people are going to hell by no fault of their own. Indoctrination plays a key role. No sensible god would let such nonsense unfold. 🙄 Explain why god or Jesus doesn't just come on down and say hi! 🤔 Again, it just doesn't make sense. Here's what makes sense. In the absence of solid fact, people will hypothesize and use anything at their means to justify their revelation. Hence, the prophets. Humans have a thirst for knowledge and making a profit, as well as gain power from it. We do this every day. 100 yrs ago, we could not fathom a cell phone. Today, time travel is fathomable. Everything in life is coded. A program if you will. Humans are amazing programmers. I believe we are still in the infant stage of this. It is possible that we seeded this planet or another race did. Instead of getting caught up in all the details, step back and look at it as a whole. Unexplainable sky fairy promises heaven and everlasting life, but won't come out of hiding; thus causing misinformation, hate, rape, sodomy, strife murder, and war. VS People getting along and content in the fact that we don't know how or why we are yet. Yet thrilled in the search of all that is ahead of us. God is very jealous, angry, arrogant, needy, and far from perfect. It's all right there in the book. With zero evidence and sketchy speculation of god's existence; why would i go down such a twisted road or try to take others along?
@@daveparkes8539, Again, those are a lot of interesting questions. However, a lot of your points have to do with why God doesn’t make sense to you or why He doesn’t seem perfect, good, or fair to you. If there is a God, it doesn’t matter what our thoughts are in regard to what is fair or not. So the question we should answer first is not, “Is God fair?” Instead, we should ask, “Is there a God at all?” Then we can move on to the other questions.
To add on, we have free will that isn’t controlled by God because God can’t sin or cause us to sin
I think its admirable to stand up for what you believe in. I also feel it's important to accept the fact that you could be wrong. Especially on the subject of god.
Let's be clear on 1 thing if any. I wish you were right and that god existed and the fairytale comes true.
Let's cover some stuff.
Yes, you can gain favor from god
“A good man obtaineth favour of the LORD…” - Proverbs 12:2
Dying on the cross to save us.
Sounds great! But explain how that works🤔 People sinned before and apologized and asked for forgiveness...but not to a deity, but the person or people they transgressed.
How is the son of god dying make a difference in the lives that have past and the ones ahead? There is no correlation between the two. If i said "I will bear the burden of your rent so that you will be able to eat." That would make sense.
He never died. His body perished. An easy feat for a god.
Resurrection. The bible was written 70 yrs+ after his death. One of two possibilities here. Great parlor trick as there were many charlatans in that day. Or this story was added for theatrics. The romans didn't document it.
Hung around for a couple months there and then magically floated up into the sky to take his place on the right side of his dad.
…he that goeth down to the grave shall come up no more. ” - Job 7:9
I've read about this heaven place. Its EXACTLY the same format kingdoms used in that day. Why would god need to be a king? Why did he need servants? Why did he need praise? When you are omnipresent and omniscient, you don't need these petty things.
First, I’d like to say that, yes, I have considered if I am wrong before. However, due to many more reasons that I will explain in the following weeks, I do believe that God exists. But let’s say that I am wrong. If there is no God, then we are no better or worse of if we die. We would simply cease to exist. However, if there is a God, we can either spend eternity with Him in Heaven, which is far more wonderful than any of us can possibly imagine. Or we can go to Hell, which is so much more terrible than any suffering anyone on Earth has yet experienced.
Second, if we sin or do wrong, we haven’t just sinned against people. We have sinned against God because He has set up laws that we break when we sin.
Third, Jesus was able to take the punishment that we deserved because He was the only person to ever have lived a perfect life. God saw His sacrifice and was able to forgive us because of the sacrifice Jesus made.
Also, yes, Jesus did die. Most historians would agree that Jesus did exist as a human being, and that He was crucified. Even if we want to take the logic that He didn’t die because He still existed as a spirit, He also experienced spiritual death when He went to Hell as part of His sacrifice. So yes, Jesus did in fact die. But then He rose from the dead.
When it comes to the accounts Jesus’ life in the Gospels, these people were close followers of Jesus. You would think that if you wrote a book about how your best friend died and rose from the dead, you would still remember the key events, even if it was 50 years later.
Lastly, does God need worship, servants, and adoration? No, He doesn’t. He is deserving of it, but He doesn’t need it. Our worshipping God is a way we show appreciation and honor to Him, but He doesn't need it as a necessity for His existence or survival.
@whybelieveGod if god does not exist, how do you know that when we die, that will be the end? You see, long before Jesus, God's were worshipped just as they are now. Christianity copied many of the core ideas from paganism. As a matter of fact, Christianity blended into the pagan world so as to be accepted.
Gods have come and gone loooong before Jesus. Historians proved all this.
Yes, he existed. But the resurrection was only in the bible. As for heaven and hell, that is what we call the risk and reward program. All disciplinary action will give something you fear. Fire is at the top of the list as the worst way to die.If god was real, we wouldn't look up as if he was in the sky. He would be everywhere.
As humans got smarter, they were no longer tricked by the likes of Zeus or Hades. All today's religions claim to promote that they are the one true religion. How can that be? According to Christianity, that means a lot of people are going to hell by no fault of their own. Indoctrination plays a key role. No sensible god would let such nonsense unfold. 🙄
Explain why god or Jesus doesn't just come on down and say hi! 🤔 Again, it just doesn't make sense.
Here's what makes sense.
In the absence of solid fact, people will hypothesize and use anything at their means to justify their revelation. Hence, the prophets. Humans have a thirst for knowledge and making a profit, as well as gain power from it. We do this every day.
100 yrs ago, we could not fathom a cell phone. Today, time travel is fathomable.
Everything in life is coded. A program if you will. Humans are amazing programmers. I believe we are still in the infant stage of this. It is possible that we seeded this planet or another race did.
Instead of getting caught up in all the details, step back and look at it as a whole.
Unexplainable sky fairy promises heaven and everlasting life, but won't come out of hiding; thus causing misinformation, hate, rape, sodomy, strife murder, and war.
VS
People getting along and content in the fact that we don't know how or why we are yet. Yet thrilled in the search of
all that is ahead of us.
God is very jealous, angry, arrogant, needy, and far from perfect. It's all right there in the book. With zero evidence and sketchy speculation of god's existence; why would i
go down such a twisted road or try to take others along?
@@daveparkes8539, Again, those are a lot of interesting questions. However, a lot of your points have to do with why God doesn’t make sense to you or why He doesn’t seem perfect, good, or fair to you. If there is a God, it doesn’t matter what our thoughts are in regard to what is fair or not. So the question we should answer first is not, “Is God fair?” Instead, we should ask, “Is there a God at all?” Then we can move on to the other questions.
@@whybelieveGod yes. I agree.