Pantographs 101
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- Опубліковано 1 жов 2024
- In this full length instructional video, I demonstrate how to use a pantograph mill, particularly for inlaying shields into knives.
Pantograph templates can be purchased from my website:
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Please see my website for other instructional videos and tutorials.
Excellent, thank you Chris. My P1-2 has been sitting in my shop for 4 years since I bought it without use although I have been accumulating tooling. You have motivated me to fire it up!
Awesome! I love my P1-2, and I know you will as well. I'm glad the video was helpful!
Chris this is an incredibly well done and informative video not mention inspirational for me personally. After watching your video I felt comfortable enough to purchase my own pantograph.
I noticed that at one point in the video you mentioned that if you don't have a "T" slot table you'd need to figure out an unorthodox method of clamping. Please have a look at the video link im going to share of the clamping system I came up with to overcome this obstacle.
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I picked up a Deckel 3D Pantograph last spring, and am just getting it into service now. This was great information. Thank you for producing it.
Awesome! I'm glad the video was helpful! -Chris
Hi Chris, thanks for this really useful video! I just want to confirm in my mind that you move the stylus in a anti-clockwise direction when following the outside of a pattern, and move it clockwise when cutting an internal cavity shape - is this correct? Many thanks, Malc (UK)
Hey Malc. I've tent to go counter clockwise on both the pocket and shield. Maybe I should try it the way you're suggesting. Thanks.
This is great! I’ve been trying to find something like this for awhile! Thank you!
Great! Thanks Jonathan. I'm glad it was helpful.
what about a video how you make a template?
Can you recommend more affordable and smaller machine that will work with your patents Amazon does have one
Hello Barry. I can't necessarily recommend it, but some folks have had success using the Proxxon pantograph, so that might be an option. I've never used one personally, so I can't speak from experience. I know some people have been able to use it, and some haven't, so take that for what it's worth. I do have a write up about it on my website though. chriscrawfordknives.com/pantographs/the-proxxon-pantograph/ Hope this helps. -Chris
This video is amazing. I'm very lucky to have stumbled upon this. Thank you for taking the time to record this. I have some Gorton p1-2 videos on my channel
Thanks! I'm glad you liked it. I checked out your Gorton videos. Did you ever get the CNC project going?
@@chriscrawford5392 yes, it's slowly moving along.
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Una pregunta nuca he usado uno.
La guia debe tenir el mismo diámetro que la herramienta?
Hello. It will depend on the ratio that you're using to cut the shield. If you are using a 4:1 ratio, and your cutter is 1mm, then the stylus should be 4mm.
Thank you Chris for such an informative video! I am going to get a Gorton U3 pantograph in 2 days. I feel very comfortable now with using it and look forward to using the four patterns I ordered from you.
Awesome! Thanks Gary.
My brother told me he was picking up a Pantograph Mill from an auction. So I googled what the heck a pantograph mill is. Your video was one that came up, and was pretty cool.
I also checked out your knife website. Nice project and side hustle for sure. Like the quality.
Thank you! Very informative! I have a Gorton 3-U Pantograph which I have had to modify to get it operational. Getting the information needed to make the “modifications” that doesn’t harm any operations of the pantograph is the hardest part. I’ve downloaded the Gorton pantograph manual but I feel it’s “incomplete” thank you so much for this video it explained a lot of questions I have had, while using it.
I am going to pick up a Gorton 3-U pantograph tomorrow. Can you please tell me what you had to modify to get it to cut the shields or where I can find that information? Why won't it work as is?
@@garycullen1241 My Gorton 3-U pantograph would have worked just fine if it came with the stylus and collets, but since collets are like $80 for two small parts I decided to modify the spindle and expanding the collets by welding on an “ER-32”collet and I have no idea what the actual stylus looks like or how it works so I just have a small piece of metal turned down to a point with a small channel milled out of it to fit into the stylus slot.
Sorry “ER-11” collets, here’s the link:
ER11 Collet Chuck Motor Shaft Spindle Extension Rod Adapter Inner 8mm/0.31“ for CNC Milling www.amazon.com/dp/B07D75BPB3/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_glc_fabc_MaR5Fb1TBVMR3
Hello Rory. I'm glad the video was useful. The machines are awesome, and I feel fortunate to have one. I hope you enjoy your 3-U as much as I enjoy my P1-2.
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Happy to see someone else using a Gorton with 3D printed templates! CNC has made these obsolete in industry, but they are so great for hobbyists and small shops - wouldn't give my P1-2 up up for love nor money. One suggestion: use a larger cutter (and stylus) for the initial passes of the mortice, then follow up with the small cutter to clean up the outline. Saves a lot of time and gives you a flatter bottom. Note that 0.120 stylus at 4:1 gives -0.00125" offset to the mortice and +0.00125" to the inlay for a total tolerance of 0.0025" (which is nice and tight). Gotta get me a mag-vice!
Good suggestions. Thanks Rex!
Just bought a 3-Z and was looking for instruction. This is a really useful video. Inlaying seems like a high-precision type of work, which forces you to attend to all the details when setting up the machine. BTW, when you're lining up your work, you can engage that magnet part way. Sometimes grinder hands do that to avoid bowing their work. Also, the parallels you're using to hold the work (excellent idea) are a little thin. If they're thicker, you'll get a better grip. This is such light work, though, that the grip may be good enough already.
Good tips. Thanks for the info!
Great video! I love my gorton P1-2 pantograph, it's a great machine. I wish I could find a stylus set like you have, that's a nice accessory.
Hey George. Yea, I as pretty fortunate, and surprised actually, when I went to pick up the pantograph and it had the stylus set with it. I'm glad you liked the video.
Thanks a lot
You're welcome!
Chris - I would love to know where you got your .200" stainless. At your convenience. Thanks.
Hey Karl, I think I got it on eBay, but it was measured by mm rather than inches. I think it was a 5mm rod, which was pretty much right at .20". Hope this helps.
@@cfcrawfordyout It does, Chris. Thanks. I actually have some 5mm rod in the shop! I appreciate you jogging my memory. I did find that McMaster Carr has some .199" W1 that a person could grab in a pinch. Thanks.
I've been looking for this video! I've had a Kulhmann in the garage for a few years and never quite knew where to start with it.
Hey Rod. That's great! I'm glad the video was helpful! -Chris
I like my P1-2, It has a 2 axis CNC retrofit on it. So, no patterns are needed.
That's really cool!
Awesome instructional video! Thanks for all your work Chris!
You're welcome! I'm glad the videos have been helpful!
Chris Im not sure if you're a genius or crazy for being so in tune with such an obscure machine, but Im a fan
Ha! I'd say that I'm just lucky to have one.
Thanks for taking the time to make this! It was a great overview, I look forward to putting my P1-2 to use.
You're welcome! I'm glad it was helpful!
Great video! Still some details, parts to buy for mine, but a huge jump start!
Great! I'm glad it was helpful .
Très joli machine
Appreciate you investing in the community 🙏 this really helped me...I have the same Gorton P1-2 👍👌
Glad it was helpful!
I know how use this..
Chris what model is your pantograph please
Hey Shaun. I have a Gorton P1-2 model.
hello she cutter do you use for brass?
I'm using a 4 fluted carbide endmill for the stainless, but it works great for brass also.
Great video Chris, thanks for taking the time to do that.
Thanks Dean, and you're welcome!
Nice video Chris. Enjoyed it.
Thanks Dennis!
Great video
Thanks Toni!
du erzählst zu viel müll, du bist gar nicht so altum eine maschie wie diese zu kennen