A Scary Look Inside The Incel Community
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- Опубліковано 23 лип 2018
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"It’s late on a Friday, and hundreds of men are browsing the forum Lookism.net. A new member logs on and posts two photos showing the lower half of his face.
“What surgeries/implants are needed to fix this?” he asks. “As you can see I have a recessed jaw/chin.”
The replies come swiftly: “It’s not just your chin. Your upper lip is retruded as well. Orthognathic surgery if you can afford it. Chin implant or [genioplasty] if you can’t. You should also look at jaw angle implants,” someone responds. “Start saving.”
It’s a typical exchange on the message board, where new posts continue to pop up throughout the night with men asking other men for physical evaluation and advice.
“Rate my face.” “I already know I’m ugly.” “Dropped 7K on a nose job.” “Candid photo of my profile reveals my subhumanity.” “I don’t even leave the house anymore, I don’t want to be seen.” “No Tinder matches in first 24 hours - is it over?” At one point, someone compares the skull sizes of Justin Bieber and Zayn Malik, carefully assessing which pop star has a more masculine-shaped head."
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Im telling you, half of this generation is gonna die alone.
Born alone die alone
The world is overpopulated anyway.
A lot of sad dudes in the comment section always blaming someone else for their own short comings.
Maybe some dudes just have a shit personality?
They will be fine. Likely someone will take care of them sooner or later. Say, Jordan Peterson - they are the perfect snack for the morally corrupted charlatans of his sort.
Not only unrealistic, some go after rapists , you know the ones with tatoos all over and MMA creeps
Leeloo Minai I couldn't agree more with your Peterson comment. He sounds just like them when he talks about men getting violent when they don't get sex, and I've heard him say that the problem is that hot guys hog all the women so there's a shortage of women for everyone else lol. He even suggested that single women should give it up to men to prevent violence. He got salty about it as if he was remembering what a hard time he had trying to get women when he was younger. That guy is a loon.
@Chad Atchinson: I decoded Peterson in about an hour of research the first time I saw him mentioned. That was the easy part. Now, explaining to people what he is doing - that's beyond my mere mortal skills it seems, which is a bit disturbing.
I dunno what incels are complaining about if you are short just take a shower
I am with you, it's hard to understand why the are upset. I think its literally their obsessive attitude towards women that keeps them from getting laid.
I feel it stems from a sense of entitlement with them. that's just my thought
YAWN
I was 5'4 and took a shower 4x a day for 4 years and now I'm 6'2!
I don’t get it
The fundamental problem is not that they aren't getting sex. The fundamental problem is that they think the fundamental problem is that they aren't getting sex. This is what makes them unhappy and ultimately destructive.
Coos Oorlog, I would agree. When I tell them I’m stressed out a lot of guy friends will tell me I need to get laid. Like that can solve all my problems. I think there are a lot of people in general that put too much emphasis on sex, but in my experience men have more of a tendency to do so than women.
False. Try being rejected from society all of your life.
@@michaelb.tysonson3375 that has nothing to do with it
Coos Oorlog
Yes it does. You are saying incels only care about sex, when In reality they just want companionship and to be treated like normal people. Incels are usually ugly so everyone hates them automatically from birth.
@@michaelb.tysonson3375 that is absolutely ridiculous
Incel culture is the culture of giving up. I had a rough time with girls in high school (acne like a motherfucker) but I put in some effort and rebounded in college.
Gilgamesh Boom, there you go, my dude.
Nex Russ Still not really an excuse as I literally known dudes from high school and college who are ugly as shit and still managed to get girlfriends.
+Nex Russ it was so bad it left scarring on my face dude. Yet here I am, getting laid every now and then.
The Majestic Spider Absolutely zero sarcasm here: I’ll bet it’s because they’re kind and respectful, right?
Gilgamesh My boy!!
Just take a shower bro
It's sometimes easier to be pessimistic than optimistic. I salute those who never give up never give in to the darkness. They do provide some light. And to those who thinks too much in advance, you still have the chance to do something. It's alright if you choose not to die. Nothing is perfect. You cant control everything. But you can love your very imperfect self even if nobody can do that for you. There will always be ones will always try to take advantage of another. If you believe, you can pray for wisdom on how to handle...
@Jim Dawson "you are what you are based on how you're treated"
Treated by whom? Does that mean somebody else instead of yourself gets to dictate who and what you are?
@Jim Dawson you can also be stubborn, persistent, not easily giving in, keeping your eye on the goal, if you know what you want.
@Jim Dawson being not so dependent on your confidence may prevent your quick and easy downfall.
@Jim Dawson other people's words and other people's thoughts sometimes we easily allow ourselves to be manipulated by them. Try to manipulate yourself0
We should make a distinction between young men who struggle with loneliness and sexual frustration on one hand, and the incel community who mops around in their own misery online
This is actually really depressing. It's like they have body dysmorphoria.
TopHatKitty I suspect mental illness is part of it. They just need therapy and maybe social skills training.
Jakazu are you serious? Obsession is obsession. And I'm sure plenty of them ARE getting surgery or would if they could afford it.
Jakazu also most people with dysmorphia can't afford that stuff and just work out obsessively and post to anorexic forums and stuff how is that different?
Yes thats true. Some guys there look hot as hell yet claim that they look disgusting to women
Do incels not realize that women vary in their tastes and interests?
To incels, "femoids" are just a copy pasted sex-toy/mother-but-gives-me-sex object that asks too much. They don't live in the real world. Incels interests _must_ be the interests of all women, or else they're thots, etc.
Some women prefer 6 ft 8 guys, others 7 ft 6 guys
TYT is triggering the trolls with this video.
I have not had sex yet as a 23 year old, but I couldn't care less.
Why
That's the spirit!
I know it sounds sarcastic but I really mean it, a lot of times I feel like too much time is wasted on sex. I feel like I'd be a more productive human without sex or sex related activities... mostly masturbation...
Keiran Morris Art I don't like going around chasing something. The day it happens it happens and from what I have heard it's nothing special. People need to learn to stop caring so much and to live in the moment, not in the future.
"incel" sounds so unnecessarily technical. i prefer the colloquial term "loser" lol
@balance.of.the.sexes Goddamn dude.
@balance.of.the.sexes you dont get laid much huh?
They are easy to laugh at but they need help
You can't help people who won't help themselves; what makes them disturbing is that they genuinely blame everyone else for their problems.
Letty Lunasical so? doesn't mean they can't be helped.
THEY DONT BLAME EVERYONE ELSE! THEY ACKNOWLEDGE THAT THEY ARE UGLY AND THEY ARE ANGRY AT THEMSELVES AND PEOPLE TELLING THEM ITS POSSIBLE TO HAVE A RELATIONSHIP EVEN IF YOURE UGLY. Like, have you ever actually looked at one of their communities and read their posts???
*Theunknownman 3.0* Well we will have to agree to disagree. If people cannot help themselves they cannot be helped by others. It just becomes a cycle. *Bony Tony* Yes I have. And they often blame women, society, "Chads/Tyrones." Chill out with the caps lock, it makes you look hysterical.
@@stinkybinky6441 I don't blame them i always say "if shes hot i got NO shot
For women it's more about personality and hygiene than it is about looks
anony mous true. If your personality, breath and ass stink, you won't get laid.
I was popular until puberty. I guess my personality changed lol!
Women appreciate physical beauty just as much as men do.
Bullshit.
Waiting for Sargon or Crowder to throw a tantrum over this video.
I think Its more sad than scary.
Here's a quick thought experiment to understand what is happening and why doing stories with this tone is so incredibly dangerous. Imagine fourteen-year-old girls writing and saying these things, the reality is we don't have to imagine how he would respond because we have responded. For decades now we have actively worked to make girls and young women feel better about themselves. We have put together campaigns to get them more confident in themselves and help them prepare for college. We have spent decades trying to push healthy body images and healthy lifestyles. This was and still is the correct response to people that have depression and anxiety. The problem is we have been ignoring the boys that are struggling with the exact same problems.
Would you think happens when the grown-ups ignore people that have serious issues like depression and anxiety? Instead of having people that are emotionally mature and having access to proper psychological counseling this subset of boys and young men have been seeking help from each other and they're not mature enough to really provide it. Really if you look at the coverage of these individuals it really has been get over it and not one of understanding.
I bet if you had a real conversation and try to understand why the behave the way they behaved you would find out many of them just want that connection. They want to be seen as something and often their bravado is the way they cover up for their insecurities. It wouldn't surprise me if many of them saw sex as a way to make themselves feel better and some sort of magical cure for their psychological issues.
If we don't address this problem now it's only going to get worse.
Ya but if we act reasonably and try to understand other peoples point of view, then progressives/feminists wouldn't get to keep justifying their hatred of men.
Steven Wilkerson yah know, I agree with you. But we also have to consider that when women deal with these issues, they harm themselves. When men deal with these issues, they harm other people and foster horrible hatred for women in general which is dangerous. I'm not going to pretend I know the answer, but we have to agree that for the most part, the situations are a little different. Gender norms being broken would help the situation although much more needs to be done. And you're right; out of anger, I definitely said some things that I regret about incels which isn't helping the narrative.
Steven Wilkerson: 👍 So let me guess: You're a closet Sociologist❗ 🙄 I totally agree with you, though. (San Francisco)
Sweederland Johnson I don't owe every guy who was nice to me sex.
Steven Wilkerson
You make more sense than anyone from left or the right. I totally agree with you because I completely understand what these boys are going through. If someone cared enough to talk to me and gave me the proper advise when I was a teen than maybe I'd have better luck on getting a gf.
What we now call incels have always existed, the only difference now is social media provides a means for them to connect.
I think a lot of them are narcissistic or have other mental disorders. One of the traits of a narcissist is to blame everyone else for their problems. What I've also noticed from them is a lot of projection. They accuse women of the same things they themselves do. They say women always chase the hottest guys, but they are themselves extremely picky and have unrealistic standards. I never chased after the hottest guy, and most other women I know don't either. We usually end up dating guys in the same league as ourselves. While we see the hot guy as attractive, we are pretty realistic about knowing whether or not he'd be interested in us. We also value personality, intelligence, humor, and altruism. Many times those things override appearance for us ladies. I've dated short guys and tall guys, hot guys and not so attractive guys because they have a great personality.
Thank u Doc
franco stoppardi you're welcome
LOL really love entitled(freudwannabe)women like u
franco stoppardi I was being sarcastic
Awwwww soooo funny
I think a lot of them are narcissistic or have other mental disorders. One of the traits of a narcissist is to blame everyone else for their problems. What I've also noticed from them is a lot of projection. They accuse women of the same things they themselves do. They say women always chase the hottest guys, but they are themselves extremely picky and have unrealistic standards
This is freud wannabe btw :D
"projection" "narcissist" "mental disorder" "picky with unrealistic standards " Psychoanalysis for sales.... jesus christ XD
Literally most of the TYT trolls
Out of curiosity, I've watched some incel videos on UA-cam. Many of the self-described incels are not unattractive. They perceive their inability to get women as a physical or appearance issue, when it's usually more of a personality issue...especially for the extreme incels who subscribe to the idea that women are there for their sexual pleasure and/or who revere the incels turned killers.
Shannon Copeland Very few of these women actually deserve to die. Usually they get older and realize modern feminism is cancer.
Shannon Copeland it's just a modified form of misogyny. People blaming others for their own inability. If a woman doesn't find you attractive that's her prerogative there are billions of people on this earth if you think you can't find someone then it's a deeper problem than just appearance. These "incels need to grow up.
+Hakeem Haye Misogyny? Stop it. Incels constantly hate on so-called "Chad's" and "Tyrone's" (Attractive by their standards White and Black dudes) for bullying them so everything doesn't boil down to hating one gender. It's a lot more complicated than that.
+Sidney Monkey Porn creating high standards, mass shaming of young boys for being masculine, forcing young boys to sit for 30 hours a week listening to a bossy teacher from age 6-17 during the most important years of deveopement are why so many males now have dropped out of society. This is a serious issue, and porn might need to eventually be banned.
Thrill Bundy Um, NONE of the women targeted by incel killers deserve to die. I don’t understand your point.
Incel? Try something new. Go to a park. Try a different coffee shop. Try not wearing a hoodie. Different color of wardrobe. ANYTHING. Read a book. T... W Don't Try So Hard.
There's a terrible irony in the fact that on the list of things least likely to get you laid, habitually visiting these sites has to be really high up there.
Ha ha! True say!
Love the positivity but the data just doesn't match up. People being attracted to personality is largely bullshit. Christian Ritter did a study using data from all of the major dating apps and websites. He found that women only find one in six men attractive. I'm not saying that they should be able to act out as a result of this. But the feeling of rejection is not some sort of self-generated fantasy or a byproduct of low confidence. These men are confronting real obstacles in their quest for companionship and intimacy.
they are attracted to the MONEY from said above attributes
And this is why Prostitution should be legal. Dating is such b.s.
It still exists. And lap dances are out there. As is online porn.
It should be legal and regulated; it'll protect everyone
Edward Vasquez these feminist vaginas will be dry forever and become female rapists
There are already legal and regulated brothels in Nevada. The BunnyRanch near Reno for instance.
there’s nothing wrong with wanting to look better but if you aren’t interesting or funny then nothing else will help you get laid...
Ingrid P you’re joking right?
I’m 20 and I’ve never been in a relationship. I really don’t know what I’m doing wrong. Nobody has told me I’m ugly or anything, I just have no self confidence. I understand these guys and I truly do feel sorry for them.
Have you ever taken the time to ask yourself what you like?
"I know about it - because I'm a woman." Ana shames men.
JoelJoel321 she's saying she understands how they feel. As do many women who feel insecure everyday about their looks.
Melinda Virosteck I hope so. Didn't come across that way at first, but she was more empathetic later.
She means as a woman she's familiar with having body image issues, because its typically even more common among women.
Let's be honest guys are far more driven by physical attraction than women are, but obviously physical attraction is going to play into it with first getting a woman's attention, just like guys notice the hottest women in the room. That's just your in, you have 30 seconds to a min for your personality to come through and convince a woman to keep giving you the time of day. Women don't owe you sex. If you're not getting laid or getting into a relationship that's on you.
Can't blame women for paying attention to attractive, confident men, when guys do the same thing.
Neck training? Just put on Pantera and start headbanging. That will put muscle on your neck!
🤘🏻
And you'll get:
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I know one person who is essentially an incel. He's 37, very short and very skinny.
But what he doesn't understand is that it's his personality, his anger, and his hygene that drives women away
Its easy! Just have confidence bruh!
I forgot to take my 6th shower today thats why i cant get a gf
@@johnathons1789 take more go to the gym for 24 hours every day
I lost my virginity 2 days ago. And Chad couldn’t be more right. Be like Chad.
Just take a shower.
The saddest part of all this to me, is a lot of these guys would probably be doing better if they were more willing to open up about their frustrations to their friends and family in their real lives rather than secluding these thoughts in an echo chamber online.
Not gonna lie, if a friend or family member said something outrageous like this to me I'd break into laughter. It's not hard to get female attention. Find a group of guys, hit a bar on Saturday night, have fun. They will literally walk up to you and start the conversation if you guys are having fun. Once you get enough numbers you just mass text "I got tequila, what you doing right now"? Someone will bite.
Some may not have friends and family
Arya Deva that is true actually.
It says more about you, that you can't conduct yourself with empathy and kindness.
I gotta be honest, my height has been a DEEP source of insecurity my whole life (I'm 5'4 1/2), but I'm not about to join a community of wannabe-murderers and rapists because of it.
that's because you have integrity and self-respect
I feel like most men at some point in their lives experience the same frustrations that incels do, and different men will work through their frustration in different ways. Unfortunately, incels have found a way to work through their frustration that’s not helping them.
@@robomop9711 Most men don't ever experience the same frustration as incels do. Not even close.
I was 10 years old when I fully realized I was ugly so were my parents so nothing was likely to change there I gave up completely on that aspect of life (38 now). I rarely have any regrets on it, it often seems like 95% of all the problems in my friends lives are based in relationship issues.
Low self esteem is really the greatest weapon
Right, all you have to do is to focus into hate and you have a walking bomb. This is how ISIS works.
Since these guys only worry about how their potential mates look they project that women are the same. They aren't. I am no movie star but I have done pretty well in my life. Self confidence and a sense of humor will take you a long way. Bring something to the table you'll be surprised how far it will take you.
James Smith Man, the fact that you still call yourself in incel, is how I know your personality is shit. Seriously, just have a better personality, and don't be a complete douche nozzle. You keep trying to judge yourself based on "hotness" because you're projecting your own expectations of women, and completey forgot about being a decent human being. Do you really think the average man has a problem finding an average woman? lol Last time I checked, more "hot" girls were dating "ugly" dudes than vice versa, because they are half-decent human beings that are not concerned with locking themselves in a cage because of an arbitrary measure of subjective "hotness".
Nice.
So rather than making themselves more attractive to find a mate they sit around and blame it on superficial things.
Randy Pederson
That's the thing they feel they don't have to do anything with themselves and think the fact tha they have to change physically shows the superficiality of women. That's what they think.
If you've ever seen some of these forums, most of them are so vitriolic towards women that if any woman picked up even a shred of that attitude when meeting any of -them in real life, they'd obviously avoid them.
Most of these incels don't seem to want a relationship, family or life partner - they want what seems to be a sex slave.
Seriously, it's no wonder women avoid them.
So you gotta adjust yourself to superficial expectations so you don’t die alone?
I feel sorry for these guys, it sounds like they might have some kind of dysphoria/dysmorphia/body issues.
Bogdan Vera The incest - oops I mean the incel community.
No, they were just raised to think they deserved the world handed to them because they are white men, then when that wasn’t the case, rather than working on themselves and being kind of people they murder them. The only dysmorphia is the size of their perceived privilege. When Eliot Rodger targeted a sorority house at my school, it wasn’t because he had some kind of eating disorder, he was psychologically unsound, highly narcissistic etc but his therapist, whom he sent his “manifesto” to right before going on his murder rampage, did not mention body dysmorphia. Rather, he seemed to think he was the best-looking guy in the world and couldn’t understand why the girls in this sorority house (he didn’t even go to our school!) weren’t dating him. I don’t think you should be making excuses for this kind of behavior.
Remind me again how this got on trending
The only advice I ever give when asked why someone won't date them is "Would they date themselves?". They usually say no for one reason or another and I suggest they fix that. Nobody has ever replied that it's about looks, they are always unhappy with something else and so far it's been things they can impact, fix or have an effect on.
Unfortunately I have run into a couple of incels, let's just say that their personalities and the way they treat people is a contraceptive. Neither of them knew the meaning of the word "no" and they demanded I "give them a go". When I reminded them that I am a lesbian and "no, never", they verbally abused me, they probably call themselves "nice guys" too.
I wouldn't date myself, hellllllll no
And I know the feeling hon. I'm sorry you have had to go through that. No is no
That's a really helpful question MissFoxif. Thanks for posting it : )
Proud of all my scars, won't wear make up or a bra. Live as best you are & you will find others like yourselves. Worse case, you spend your life with yourself, even better reason to develop yourself!
A shower, shave, haircut, and a hobby would go a long way with these guys.
seashell1286 That and realization that being a decent human being towards others can attract nice women, rather than being belligerent assholes towards everyone, especially the women they actually want to attract...
Dom Trussardi But instead they encourage eachother to get worse...
first last Then you force them into therapy, institutionalize them if necessary. Some of them become extremely harmful to others, and all of them are harming eachother in this circle-jerk of torturing eachother and themselves with negativity driving them to do horrible things to themselves or others (usually women).
8 teens curb stomped a 72 year old man in Berkley but were here talking about weird virgins.
Cause the weird virgins become the teens who do that shit?
emilio black look up the story and you will doubt it.
emilio black my mistake they were grown ass men*
these young men are obviously struggling with self image and need help.
Savage Jesus Wow you're compassionate aren't you?
They need affection and partners, exactly why theyre working on self image
Here is a bit of information taught since elementary school.
In the animal kingdom (that includes us), some animals mate, some don't. That's the way it works in life, no ifs or buts!
meligoth isn't Metoo supposed to change nature .why you threaten by men coming together to say Metoo holding women accountable . Why are you so entiled
I don't get it...I've never really judged a man on neck size...
one drop spoo white incels have small pee pees. Women whould go for black guys.
What are the real reasons then? Appearance and money appear to be two big starting points
April fools come early?
Why the hell does our culture (both men and women) go through all this SHIT just so they can meet the standards of the opposite sex? This is a formula for heart break and unhappiness, GUARANTEED. I would MUCH RATHER remain single and be real with myself and my soul then get shackled to someone who really doesn't care about me as a person. I used to be a very angry incel until I realized all this and also saw that women go through the exact same thing that we men go through. Now I'm happy to be single and I have love and respect for women. If you're an incel man, I encourage you to start looking much deeper into yourself and your connection to higher source. Try to let go of judging things around you and your experiences will change from sadness and anger to happiness and love.
This is what happens when social media takes the place of parenting. Being smart, witty, confident and clean will take you places and draw people to you left and right.
anderson It absolutely will. A bit of charisma goes a long way.
It’s just easier for a person to “admit” that they’re not magazine-attractive and accuse other people of being shallow than to admit that people don’t like them because they’re not very interesting.
some people didnt get that attention when they were very young. its hard to create in yourself after you've grown. i wonder how they can be intervened?
anderson I've seen some short fugly individuals as well as chunky cats with the extra back neck rolls pull some of the most attractive women so at the end of the day its charm, confidence and cleanliness.
Is the point in this video? That we should laugh at men who are worried about not being able to find someone to love, and therefore go to extremes when it comes to their bodies?
It's not about love. It's about men thinking that it's their bodies that are preventing them from getting sex, not realising that they might be total dicks towards women etc.
Vile Crocodile Pray tell, what's the core problem?
Vile Crocodile 1. I agree with you there lol.
2. You want to end welfare so children can't get proper nutrition? That make no sense. It's not the babies fault and this whole men always lose their children to women is slowly becoming a thing of the past cos I know more single fathers than single mothers now, though it wasn't like that just a few years ago.
3. What does the church have to do with marriage? People have been getting married for thousands of years before Christianity.
ironic that they're hating on women and yet doing the same thing that a lot of women do
If you're having trouble finding a girlfriend, then falling down the "incel" rabbit hole and becoming totally repellent in personality is REALLY going to help, guys! So, so much!🙄
That's nice, dear. It has practically nothing to do with what I _said,_ but that's nice.🙄
Kind of been there but fortunately I'm out of it
Maybe it's just me, but those neck exercises look really bad for the spine.
Judicial78
Neck exercises have been around in weightraining since it first existed. But yes, the neck is a vulnerable area and great care is required.
Yeah but every weight training movement around the spine requires the spine to remain stable and straight. Deadlift, rows, etc all require a straight back, because when the spine is bent it puts pressure on one side of the disk. You add weight to it and you can cause some serious damage. Can you name one non-neck exercise that requires you to bend the spine?
I am a physical therapist for nearly 25 years and YOU ARE ABSOLUTELY RIGHT!!!
The "saddest" is that they take the wrong attitude/try the wrong solution to their "incel" problem, they ask "among themselves" about "superficial" things, when they should try to get to know girls and learn what's really "relationship" material.
BennyEternET lol that's real cute and dumb as f**k.
You're right, communication is SO overrated. Better muscle my neck!
The joke is, most of these guys, when they post photos, aren't even that bad looking. Hell, if you just start doing push ups and get a tinder profile, you'll probably get some positive action with the opposite sex.
I think so too some are just average looking guys, but the problem is that they dont want an average looking girl, no, they want a barbie and if they can get it then they hate them for not falling for them, they also look down on single moms,and look down on women who are not a virgin, calling them sluts, they talk about them as old hags or damaged goods even if they are young women, so with that in mind there is no way they can get what they want.
A. G.A. No its not that. Most incels are just depressed with loneliness. Goes beyond just sex with women. Calling the incel community violent and women hating is like calling the metoo movement "man hating"
Just lift bro. That'll change your face
+A. G.A. Where's the data incels want a "barbie"?
Yes, they ARE bad looking. You don't even know what bad looking is for a man. If you look at incel selfies, what you will invariably see is men who are scrawny, nerdy-looking, and have small skulls. That is REPULSIVE to women. They don't mind fat men; it's grown men who don't look like grown men whom they hate. From your picture, you have a large skull size. That's why you are able to score.
I would like to venture that many of the trolls who frequent this site, are members of the aforementioned community.
thelonius monk I would not be surprised.
Bahahahaaaa....
I think your comment hits very close to home for them, because I see a lot fewer of them commenting on this video. Scared off or depressed by the reality of it, I guess.
They don’t reject you because you’re ugly. The reject you because you’re creepy!
Not necessarily. A lot of incels are a fatal combination of physically unattractive and socially awkward. Often times, the extreme cynicism and misogyny arrives after concluding that pursuing women is futile. This of course compounds the problem. Then, due to incel attacks and media frenzy, the 'incel' status is stigmatised, making the problem even worse.
Nex Russ
You’re missing the entire point and focusing on a label. The whole incel movement weirds people out because they advocate raping and subjugating women. Anyone who thinks like that probably freaks people out. Therefore, they’re creepy.
SMH 😑...sad, what ever happened to choking the 🐓 on a daily basis. Twice a day for a week when rejected. It keeps you sharp and relieved stress.
*"Come-On!"* 👍🐓😉😂😂😂
Serious. Fleshlights are cheap.
All that lashing out when they can take matters into their own hands! 😁
Scary isn’t the word I would use.
Embarrassing, cringy, and pathetic are more up the alley.
Tatchko Carolyn Bryant only recently admitte she wasn't being truthful and say that's normal victim behavior 🤔 when she just made her claims you just had to believe her. Today she can go on twitter or face book get her girlfriends to say Metoo.
And it turns out Andrea Constance family was openly Racist her mother on record has made speeches on how hates black people even said going after Cosby to get revenge on all black men. And this information was bared from the trial to Protect the Image and crediblity of the victim. I don't know how to send a URL but httpUA-cam/The-Truth-Comes-Out-When-Andrea-ConstanceWentAfterCosby
Smartass012 quaaludes weren't even a date rape drug symptoms depending on the dosage. Lower stress drowsiness increased sex drive especially in women. Loss a of appetite nausea vomiting insomnia itratabilty dizziness coma or death you could argue on Drowsiness Dizziness Coma Even Death. STOP! STOP! ✋🚏 SAYING! HE! ADMITTED TO IT!!!
I have a video where I noticed Lili Bernard o CNN going through the motions of wiping tears of a dry face 😶
I anticipate (and this is only a guess) that this video in particular will be attacked with trolls and down votes.
What Young Turks video doesn't get attacked by trolls and down votes?
How can this be a community? Are you kicked out if you get laid?
Joe Schmo Yes, you do get kicked out if you go into the forum and tell them you got laid. They call it "ascending".
lmfao... 'ascending'
You're no longer incel but you can remain as an ascended black pulled ally.
I do feel sorry for alot of the men/boys in these communities, especially the boys. But there is just so much anger there and they definitely know that they are promoting violence, I mean this is the exact kind of community Elliot Rodger was a part of that I feel helped drive him to an extreme depressive sociopathic mindset, and he ended up going on a killing spree, and the people on these websites actually revere him and others like him. So yes it's extremely toxic but to a large degree they know that alot of their ideology is morally wrong or violent.
dani c "helped" is the keyword here. The primary problem with most incels is a lack of a father figure or positive male role model when they are children. Children learn to model relationships from role models in thier early years of life. Single mothers often raise incel sons.
Actually he was not part of the incel community.
But what community were these people part of: "72% of all murder-suicides involve an intimate partner".
They were part of the normie community. Incels don't have intimate partners.
dani c
“I do feel sorry for...”
Nope. I do not feel sorry for made-up groups that FAKE NEWS keeps pushing on us.
“Incels”? Yeah, let’s give a platform to the .001% of the world who labels themselves “incels”....... what a joke.
+Paid Government Shill
_made-up groups_
'Fraid not.
There's an archive of their posts dating back to 2012. Real sick shit that will make you realize that TYT is being terribly naive here.
dani c Elliott who? Why do we know him?
Ballooning: When an uncircumsised man, whilst urinating, pinches his foreskin closed, thereby inflating his touque like a balloon (but with urine rather that air)
Sorry, but what...is the relevance to this incel discussion?
😂
This is sick. If someone rejects you, it can be for a thousand different reasons, many of which make no sense. Move on... It's their loss
The women? No. It's NOT their loss. The way these boys are not pleasant people. Why should anyone WANT to date them?
Incels: when you have so few real problems that the worst fate you can think of is not getting laid.
Sarity DrawsALot it's not about getting laid . It's about validation and not being socially isolated, wich is a basic human need
Jusseh Wagner How is sex socially isolating when so many don't get laid?
april robinson the ones advocating rape are filled with anger , cause they bought the entire black pill crap. None the less most of them start out by being isolated .
Anon YMouse sex is not socially isolating
april robinson I should make clear that I'm not defending incels, I just wanted to make clear that "getting laid" is far from their only problem
This discussion was actually more compassionate than I thought it would be. Cool. We can all work to be more compassionate.
The incels are right about one thing, looks matter more than personality for both men and women, deny it all you want because deep down, you know it’s true.
Society wants you to believe everyone is equal in every way.
Nonsense, our society is exceptionally superficial. Whilst the incels communitys behaviour is deplorable its not as is the pain they express is inaccurate.
sam elsmore Society is superficial because men demand exceptionally perfect and young women. There is no “equal” or “on your level” for men. They exclusively, solely want the best - and have the nerve to get mad when they can’t get it.
I am sure that the majority of people would feel obliged to be in the top 10 percent of attractive and successful people in society, this a desire is held strongly by both men and women. In others words nearly everyone aims high.
I agree that no one is entitled to somebodies time, affection or their body. What is being highlighted is that being ugly or unattractive in very superficial and competitive world can leave one feeling like they have been cast out of any kind of human gathering let alone a relationship. As I said I strongly disagree with wretched behaviour and malevolence but what is evident is how expendable our society
views unattractive people
It's also important to note that some people try to date out of their "league".
Some people are under the impression that a "league" doesn't exist, but based on couples around the world, it's obvious that people usually end up with people that look a bit like themselves, average, attractive, etc.
@@DarknetDude Very difficult to define ''league'' I can see the argument for the Darwinian approach e.g attractive people with attractive people particularly in youth. However I would not rely on the Darwinian system if I was going to create a long term relationship with someone else, to me a relationship is about trust, commitment and compassion.
@@DarknetDude Not really. I know plenty of couples where one of them is really attractive and/or wealthy and the other isn't. Not everyone cares about superficial appearances, although there are many who do. We just have a really superficial, competitive culture that a lot of people buy into.
Lotta labels. Gets confusing. Incels are those trolls whose first comment towards women usually begin with, "shes a man right?" or "must be a lesbian". Am i right or?
jason fury not right
Shade Bleu splain. Odd comment from what little i said.
Shade Bleu also, im not violent, or angry. 😊
Also, highlighted comments? Are everyones highlighted? Mine are highlighted on TYT alot. Even the dodo highlighted my comment. Funny, cuz my friends ignore my texts because i babble and theyre hard to understand. Lol.
So men with no personality, skills, looks, money or really anything interesting about them cant get laid... I wonder if there is a trait or set of traits that can't help them get laid hmm... a mystery that must be solved.
I'm pretty of 3 things 1 idk what a Chad is 2 the "definition" of Chad is mostly slanderous and a gross over generalization 3 hypergamy is real however it's based on her beliefs, does she love music shell probably go musician over lawyer, money hungry the reverse may be true.
That neck training video you showed: What's the big deal? We used to do that as weight training in High School football.
Their online communities are really damaging them. I don't think it's that women are obsessed with looks but they aren't going to go with guys with unpleasant personality. I also think these guys are obsessed with looks. They want to be with porn star looking women rather than the women they might have a chance with (if their personalities weren't so horrible).
That's bullshit. I used to think that if I lowered my standards and tried less attractive women, I'd have a chance. I'm 51 and destined to be forever alone. Chad and Tyrone can have shit personalities and they get girls. I get told by women all the time I have a good personality but to me that's just code for you're ugly. When you look like I do with no success in dating like I have, you have to wonder if your personality is the only thing lacking or maybe it's something more superficial, like your appearance. I've lost weight, dressed up, shaved, showered, cut my hair. I get on dating apps and even grandmothers and disabled women say I don't do it for them. I'm sorry but when that's reality, it's time to just stop coping, take the Black pill and try to find meaningfulness in life while you LDAR. And no I'm not getting my passport because no female overseas wants me either.
I would expect more sympathy I don't agree with the incels ideology but I sort of understand their struggle.
Ana is like a big, wise sister.
regarding the neck training: we sit in front of the computer a lot, which is unnatural. this leads to a disporportionate use of certain muscles; while some get over used and grow, others are ignored and shrink. this also leads to a bad posture, since the body tries to compensate for the lack of strength in some muscles. your body adapts and positions certain body parts in an unnatural way. make sure to exercise :)
Something the incel community needs to realize is that a lot of their perceived "suffering" is within their own control.
As a teen I often felt unattractive, left out, scorned, but in reality any time I actually pursued a relationship I found success, with ease. There was no need for any celibacy if I just had confidence to ask a girl out.
For example, i saw a girl at a party I thought to be attractive, she actually modeled for Sears catalogues, so not bad, I jokingly asked if she was a true blonde and she pulled down her pants to show me.
Another at a bar was checking me out, so I flexed my arm and showed off my biceps, she came over and sat on my lap, and the whole time I'm thinking I'm unsuccessful or not attractive in some way. This low self esteem was not rational and did not reflect reality in any way, and I think many of these men may find the same to be true for them, that if they have some confidence and try to ask women out, they will find at least some progress.
If not, maybe you have to look at the way you approach women too, not just looks.
Imagine 2 cars. A Lamborghini and a beaten up Toyota with $10,000 in the backseat. Which car would you choose?
Neither a DB7 thanks
The Toyota for me. I could use the money to fix it up.
thenamestheygivearedumb what
thenamestheygivearedumb why wouldn’t you take the lambo sell it, get a cheap ford and then customize it?
Coe- D Toyotas are more practical.
Looks can only get you so far but these young guys need to understand personality counts. Get some hobbies, learn about politics, the environment, economics, etc. That and being active physically everyday is what will make them attractive someday to a woman who will want a long term relationship with them.
A woman or man who only dates based on looks is not worth anyone’s time.
Personality doesn't mean shit, people don't walk around with a good personality detector. Try being ugly and you'll see how fake, superficial, and hypocrite society really is.
Wanna get laid? Here is the recipe; work 40 hrs a week+ gym 5 hrs a week+ ask girls out 10 a week+ not living with parents or kids. If that doesn't get you laid in 6 months talk to a therapist.
Marsha Hare In my case, I have a deformed face, so I'll have to take a bit longer than 6 months to set aside 20k for surgery, plus time for recovery. You how it goes.
Plenty of men who don't do all of that get laid.
Imagine thinking women owe you sex
Imagine thinking anyone thinks women owe them sex.
Imagine thinking that sex is the only reason why our species exists and not being able to pass on your genetic information. Must be painful.
@@stephenkay1104 Imagine just using a mail order braid if you refuse to compete in the dating market
Isn't celibacy, by it's very nature, voluntary? Isn't an "incel" just someone who can't get laid?
Winifred Sanderson correct
Yes, exactly. Excellent point. In their minds, society has rejected them for their appearance so severely, it is impossible to get a date or find a sexual partner. They have been "forced" into celibacy hell.
I feel the mindset of this community is very sad, but fascinating.
Yes, an incel is someone who can’t get laid. They said that in the video. If they are trying to get laid but no one will have sex with them, then it’s involuntary.
Kevin Ellington it's not involuntary *celibacy* because *celibacy* is voluntary. That was my point.
Winifred Sanderson, so your problem is that incels aren’t using the word “celibate” exactly according to the definition?
It’s interesting how they view themselves as an oppressed minority. Pretty sure y’all are checking for nice looking girls so let’s not judge females for wanting cute guys too 🤦🏾♀️
Bacall McElroy Its interesting to see anybody in the West see themselves as an oppressed minority. White people should be able to build white families too without shame.
Lola ChEaTz huh? What does the video or what I said have to do with building a family or feeling bad that your family is white? It’s like your not even really replying to me at all
Bacall McElroy You think whites are oppressors in the USA and we should have sympathy for you as victims.
Lola ChEaTz yeah you’re having a conversation with yourself. I’ll leave you to it 🤷🏾♀️
Bacall McElroy Thats because the left truly has nothing of value to say.
Meme is dead boys, time to find a new weird reddit community to laugh at.
The incel community could have been a really great thing if it focused on getting in shape in a healthy way, discussing how to better yourself and what behaviors you can change in yourself to be more attractive (like being more confident, pleasant to be around) all with the ultimate goal of becoming a desirable person and getting a girlfriend. Unfortunately it seems like there's a lot more entitlement and bitterness, which just makes it unhealthy and pretty disgusting.
Jacob Johnston U are right. I went from fat too buff training at the gym now women have no excuse to reject me.
Incels are really guys with mental problems, depression and low self-esteem.
WARNING: If you guys do these brutal neck training exercises, you'll want to go at it real slowly, moderately the first few times. I did this the first time and man - the next day could hardly move my neck and had the world's worst headache.
For every ugly guy there's an ugly woman, just get together.
oceannavagator the problem is ugly men think they're entitled to attractive
No one starts out in the majors, ya gotta play sand lot ball for a while. Lol
Looks like some men are now acquiring some traditional feminine traits (obsessing over appearance), like some women are acquiring more traditional masculine traits (the chief bread winner). This is not a criticism, just an observation. The lines are becoming more blurred as time goes on.
This is why prostitution should be legal..
James Stuard Its not like it doesn't exist because its illegal lol. They can still go get prostitutes.
James Stuard - While that would help, a lot of these guys seem to think that they have a 'right' to sleep with women, whether we agree or not.
They were not genetically gifted at all, doesn't mean the rest have to suffer?
Petrazenka That's a bit Islamophobic
Should be a watch list set up for these creeps.
Perhaps we should be trying to help these people instead of taking the piss out of a highly suicidal community huh?
They haven't had sex yet, they aren't like us, get em!
Those neck weights look horrific! Hes easily going to ruin his spine!
Yes he is. Those exercises will catch up to him when older.
He's going to harm his cervical spine, and probably need
surgery later.
Yeah, science doesn't agree with you.
The reason why some of us are young is that we know that it will be over if we don't do anything. For some of us, it's never even over. It never began.
And WHY does anyone think these guys are so concerned about looks? You think they came up with that standard on their own? It's so amusing to see 'non-incels' shame 'incels' for being garbage when that's their whole agenda. I'll side with incels on the looks issue, EASILY.
But they're being hypocritical by claiming women are shallow. I have trolled these kinds of places and I can say from experience that they make no qualms about shaming fat chicks and ugly chicks. They're full of shit babies that want to dish it out but not take it.
"Ballooning. Just look THAT up."
*Looks up "ballooning"*
Google: "the sport or pastime of flying in a balloon."
Oh, OK, that doesn't seem too bad. :P
Never skip neck day my dudes
How is no one talking about Brett being 6'8. Bruh what.
Humor is a thing.
Damn. I always imagined Brett was short for some reason...
Could be that once living a single life became a viable option in our society, peoples standards for a spouse went up. Men and women.
Viable? Look at any single middle aged women.
Women say oh he makes me laugh I like him. Women laugh at Chad and Tyrone's jokes all day and they're not funny. Attracted to a man's mind? Only if Chad and Tyrone are smart. Women care more about a man's looks than they're willing to admit. This one is no different.
It's about sensing that a person is ugly on the inside. As for Chad this Tyrone that um maybe stop trying to be with vapid,shallow women? Maybe stop thinking in black and white extremes? There's many shades of gray to life. Also why so obsessed with what others are doing when you can't control that? You can only control yourself. Love isn't fair in fact it's completely unbalanced most of the time. Nothing is promised not even tomorrow. So maybe work on not being ugly on the inside. Develop hobbies that aren't just shit posting on forums. Take classes on something that interests you. Love yourself first and foremost.
I feel like you’re only talking a particular type of woman. You’re talking about very attractive women wanting attractive men. Why wouldn’t she? Are you pursuing the female physical equivalent of yourself or are you just raging at women who are more attractive than you who don’t want to date you?
"It's 10% looks, 90% game." - Oakland Proverbs
Lol Oakland proverb. That's awesome.
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