Hey team! I'm sure you figured this out already... but initially I intended to only dig into censorship online, whether or not the "tech bros" are becoming authoritarian overlords, the ways in which bot farms sow dissension in our culture etc. But Kara clearly had some serious bones to pick with me. So... first we go head to head and then in the second half of the show all the aforementioned is addressed. Can't wait to hear your thoughts!
Jillian the reason nobody on the left will have conversations with you is because you are a threat to their moral superiority complex and you are not towing their party line anymore so welcome to the right. You will never be able to get these people out of that pit. The worst part about this they can’t see that they’re headed toward a cliff at breakneck speed. The cliff is communism. They have no idea that in a communist community the elitist overlords really have no tolerance for gay people and will exterminate them nazi style. Theyve all been hoodwinked. Get off the fence and leave them to their own demise. You cannot reason with sheep.
@@annalightsaber5060as a socialist who is also an Independent Voter, the right needs to seriously stop pounding on the “communist” drum because it truly demonstrates how ignorant the right is on this topic. Nazis is an extreme far RIGHT wing white nationalist ideology that stands against democracy and free societies while promoting whites as a master race (research eugenics era in USA 1920s) which has nothing to do with communism, which is an economic approach to the disruption of wealth an organization or country enjoys through the labor in which it was achieved (aka workers rights or various classes such as poor/middle/rich). This is the socialist foundation of Unions, who ended child labor, increased worker wages, freed up weekends, gave us a 40 hr work week, safe work environments, & work benefits like PTO, paid holidays, medical care, ect. Left = freedoms, representative democracy, ability to achieve increased wealth while Right = dictatorship, one ruler, slavery.
Jillian based on your responses I got the impression that you might be a moderate who doesn’t go to one extreme of the two spectrums of left & right, I greatly appreciated that as our society needs more centrist speakers to bring objectivity back to the forefront and away from divisive extremism. Thank you for all you’re doing!
loving the show and your level headed points of view on many topics... This episode was mentioned on the No Agenda podcast with Adam Curry fyi. I'll be listening!
She talks about the right being close minded, this woman is extremely close-minded. Not sure why you wasted your breath with her Jillian. Love you Jillian I have all your workout videos and you've helped me lose weight. ❤
Jillian's guest is doing THE VERY THING she accuses “the right” of. How predictable. She is the closed-minded absolutist pigeonholing and demonizing those who don’t agree with her, refusing to have a conversation, and talking over Jillian. Just look at her body language. She’s closed off, defensive, and passive-aggressive. Look at Jillian’s body language open, inviting, practically pleading for her to set aside the stereotypes and logical fallacies and THINK about differing opinions instead of reflexively deflecting them. She’s not a journalist, she’s an editorialist.
we should not tackle ANY subject or discuss ANYTHING except the "bigger" problems. what is the main problem facing any intelligent person is/are persons and groups saying X is true.. and silencing the other side.
@@JillianMichaels you are correct. And once we got into the actual discussion there were parts where it was interesting and informative. Side note, I’m totally fangirling over you responding to my comment. 😍
@@JillianMichaels this is why these platforms matter. Agree or disagree, everyone should know how a person with influence thinks when pressed. There is no longer a true "press" outside of these podcast conversations. Propagandists is a better title.
Honestly, you were far more patient than I would have been Jillian. The moral vanity of this woman is nauseating. There is nothing complicated about this issue, and it’s only been made complicated by zealots like Kara. Men should not be prancing around women’s changing rooms with their penises hanging out. Male rapists shouldn’t ‘t be imprisoned in female penitentiaries and, if you were born a man, you must compete against men is sports, regardless of whether you “feel” like a woman. And, perhaps most importantly, children who have yet to experience the joys of sex or are not mature enough to seriously decide whether they might want children one day should NEVER be counselled toward the butchery of a chemical or surgical transition. These were uncontroversial opinions until about 5 minutes ago.
@@JillianMichaels She did you a favor, the GOP doesn't want you to have marriage equality or kids. Fox is talking out of the side of their mouths. They represent the christian right. They do not like the gay community. Wake up girl ! You don't have to like the democrats either but at least they protected your right to get married.
Jillian I love your show and your open mind and heart Your guest is irritating beyond measure You handled it beautifully But it felt like you were trying to breath in a wind tunnel She exhausted me
Guest says: ‘let’s discuss the nuance’ then says ‘we can’t discuss this issue because its ACTUALLY a front for these other issues’ …. and nothing is actually discussed.
What's new? They reached a point where even in Hollywood movies you realize that they had written that thinking of "the extreme right" but in fact all that are saying it is fitting the lefties and they don't even realize they did that.
man, jillian is so patient and this other woman is just inflammatory. bless jillian, i have no temperament anymore for people who speak this hostilely when they have a great opportunity to bridge the gap in these discussions.
Making shit up isn’t an argument. “The right” isn’t a boogyman, it’s half the country and “they” make good points that you won’t listen to making you the closed minded one.
What's so odd is she ends up agreeing with me on most of the points. I'm just grateful she showed up. Most people on the far left won't show up for it and she did. Have to give her props for that.
@@JillianMichaelsshe’s a horrible liar -she always cursed when she knew you were right-she wouldn’t even talk about Michael whose an honest broker ! She’s trash -sorry
@JillianMichaels - I appreciate you opening your eyes, Jillian 👏🙌. I give kudos to your wife, I imagine she's played a huge part in your awakening. Nearly everything coming out of Kara's mouth was her describing exactly what the "left" has done and not connecting those dots. Projection, Projection, Projection...that's the left. Kara is absolutely clueless about the significance of movement behind Trump. That man took a bullet for this country, due to vitriol of the left & the media. He's rich, he had a grrrreat life before entering the political colosseum. He made us energy independent for the 1rst time in our nation's history. He donated his presidential paychecks to a Veterans organization. He worked for free! Keep digging for the truth. You should interview Brandon Straka, the creator of the Walk Away movement. His story is incredible! Thanks for trying to bridge the gap between sides. Unfortunately it's not always possible to reach the psychologically blocked.
“The right” isn’t a boogyman, but all the right wing political pundits who make money by views and impressions, they surely are and they have demonized LGBTQ people and majority of this country don't agree with those ideas.
Did this woman just say her own kids aren’t interesting because they are cis & into ballet? And that being gay is a choice? I’m so confused & baffled at her angry and dismissive approach to every topic. This was so hard to listen to 🥴 Good on you, Jillian for keeping yourself professional and open.
I have been listening to Jillian for about 15 years. Jillian has always used critical thinking skills in all her topics discussed . I find her kindness and openness to listen and learn from others refreshing ; even when she may think differently. She is a lovely human being and a great teacher.😊
Jillian, we love you and respect you for your willingness to interview people on both sides of the issues. Kara needs to leave her echo chamber and MEET with people on the right to hear actual opinions, not just what she reads online. If the Olympics had instead anti-trans nonsense for the world to view on TV then Kara wouldn't be so flippant in her response about it.
I noticed that too. 😂 She’s a complete narcissist. She will disagree with anything you say. If Jillian called her lesbian she’d have corrected her and said she’s straight 😂
Completely dismissive of you and the weaponisation of gender as a gateway to harming children. That’s the effective truth regardless of nefarious intent. Kids are getting sterilised. And Elon might have high IQ but limited EQ.
Your guest hates or refuses to discuss anyone or anything she disagrees with. She must have trauma that needs to be dealt with. Bitterness oozes out of her. She must be fun to be around.
Wow... the defensiveness of the guest is so unfortunate - she is the one who is enraged/bringing the rage. She is doing what she says other are doing. Yes, the "right" is using/absusing issues.... but so is the "left". The left is just as weaponized as the right. Jillian has been able to see it, Kara hasn't. Unfortunately she is an example of why it is so hard to bridge the gap -- even though she and Jillian agree on most things, her defensiveness doesn't allow her to see that. Sigh. THANK YOU Jillian for your patience!
As a fellow left wing person, the first half of this interview was honestly embarrassing. I got the impression that Kara is in a bit of a media bubble and it was clear that Kara hasn't bothered to do the same level of research into transgender medical care as Jillian does - she was pretty dismissive when Jillian asked her to read the various scientific reports. Yes, these issues get politicized unfairly, but refusing to engage with the science because you already have your mind made up based on your political affiliation is doing a vulnerable group of people a huge disservice.
I could already see the hypocrisy when Jillian asked her why she said, “is she going to come at me with her right wing republican stuff” then proceeds to whine of there being teams politically. Like, girl! You JUST lead with the very thing you criticized! How is this not obvious?
Calling Tom Cotton and Josh Hawley “modified neo-nazi look” is absolutely disgusting. This woman is begone condescending and her constantly correcting Jillian like she is child is wild
Jillian I appreciate the class you showed and the tolerance for all you actually practice. She’s inflaming the conversation and you are trying to use common sense. Thank you for being normal in a world of crazy!
For those of you who do not know Kara Swisher, here’s what you need to know: she is right about everything…all the time. And anyone who disagrees with her is wrong.
WOW! Love you, Jillian -sorry I don’t have time to listen to her bash the “right” about being transphobic about males in female sports…she is just wrong! One thing she’s talking about does not correlate with another. “it’s much more complex” doesn’t cut it-and she’s RIDICULOUS lumping us all together about gay marriage rights -WTH?! I’ll listen next time-Thank you for what you do! ☺️
Jillian's patience for this woman's egocentric "my way is the right way" attitude is more than I would be able to bear. The lack of perspective taking skills and awareness of internal inconsistencies (such as the idea that we can go and "defend democracy" by starting wars with countries that function differently than our interesting experiment in progress or "our tech companies" have more acceptable motives than those of China) is mentally fatiguing to be assaulted with. You can't educate someone who is so determined not to be cured of the ignorance that they cling to. Thank heavens she isn't in charge of determining any policies that affects peoples lives and freedom to be different than what she thinks is acceptable.
What an insufferable woman Swisher is. This was so hard to watch. She is the person that makes people in the middle mover right, and people on the right more more right.
I don’t think I’ve ever seen a worse, more obvious case of Projection than this interview with Kara. Literally every single thing she accused the right of, she does in this interview, sometimes within seconds of having accused the other side of doing it. Insane
The irony was palpable when she stated that the people who dislike the Olympics needed to, “get over it“ but then proceeded to talk about how Jillian shouldn’t speak because it is damaging/offensive to the LGBT and women’s community and movement…
Swisher's argument about "The French" running the olympics would TOTALLY CHANGE if the French had decided to criticize being gay or making some kind of fun of homosexuality.
I think an adult letting their child make a decision to have life altering treatments or surgeries borders on child abuse. Scratch that, it is child abuse. In fact I think it's criminal, but I won't go down that road right now. The laws need to be established. It's good to discuss these feelings and ideas but the parent should be researching the outcomes and educating the kid about them. Then, when they are adults, if they think it's worth the cost, they can make those changes to their bodies.
@@micklake4214it was a half joke but you could tell by the way she said it and the expression on her face that there was some truth behind it. Was told as a joke, but doesn’t mean it’s not true.
I can’t stand snobby people who think they know everything and pretend to be so open minded but in reality are so closed minded because they think everything they think and say is right and everything and everyone else is wrong no matter what!
Omg this guest is so ill prepared? Clearly obvious Jillian has read all the research and it’s just her educating her live on air. The guest is very rude and accusative. Thank God for Jillian
Can you imagine being disappointed in your children for who they are?! Saying it out loud so her children can hear it! There is nothing wrong with being gay but parents don't wish for that for their children. How can you respect anything this women says after that?! Wow!
THIS WAS WHAT I WAS THINKING… the contradiction of “if you want to be gay than be gay” to argue that NOONE is pushing anyone to be trans… all while within an hour saying her own children are boring because they are CIS. Like girl if your kids were the type that REALLY wanted your approval what do you think would happen?!? Exhausting individual
Kara is assigning motive to "the Right" from her own cynical imaginings all while doing her best to "other" and demonize those think differently than her. Kara seems to be projecting her motives onto her chosen adversary. So sad. It just perpetuates division. Good in ya, Jillian.
Jillian…adore you but i couldn't finish this…the inaccurate assumptions and bashing of the right i have no time for! You were patient and open but she was not…no thank you! Keep the truth risning!
UGG. 52 minutes in. I can’t imagine that anything productive is going to emerge and I just can’t take her constant aggressive interruptions. God bless you, Jillian for trying.
As an Independent Voter & Lesbian who raised two adult daughters on my own, I appreciate you Jillian for taking an objective stand against the trans humanist agenda when it comes to protecting children & women’s only spaces. I struggled with my sexuality as I was growing up & there’s NO WAY I can agree to allowing a child to make such a huge life impacting decision to alter their development because of the massive influence of their environment is so prevalent on who they think they are in that time of their lives, which drastically changes once they become adults living on their own as it’s during this time of their lives they truly start to connect with who they are outside of external influences.
And the thing is… the left is actively pushing us away and calling us transphobic, etc. for trying to stand up for women’s only spaces & to not push the most vulnerable (our children) into lifelong decisions that many regret. I was far left and I’m now centre right. I genuinely am starting to become a little bit of genuine anger towards trans people because of this REFUSAL to listen and instead jump to cancel us.
Oh Jillian, it was so hard to watch this. Is there any way you can ask guests to not curse so much? It's hard to listen to... and shows her level of mediocrity.. not to be mean You're such a light filled spirit with so much patience to deal with that. Keep shining!! 🌟🌟🌟
I get Jillian’s point. You can’t expect conservative people to respect alternative lifestyle choices if liberals are saying or doing irreverent things about Christianity. Ideally all people should respect each other.
What does the "Olympics" a morden multi national, multi cultural compation that is based on a pagan festival have anything to do with Christianity? Much of Christian imagery is based on pagan art. Know one complains that it is insulting to pagans or their pagan ancestors. Maybe if you do not like pagan imagery you should not watch a traditionaly pagan festival.
I have so much love and respect for you Jillian for being able to deal with this woman. There is no two way street with her...gross I LOVE YOU JILLIAN!!
Jillian, I have been a fan of yours since the biggest loser days. I really enjoy listening to you talk because you speak with such eloquence and grace, and deliver facts, along with personal experience, instead of just opinions. I really admire you for having these difficult conversations, which you handle so incredibly graceful and are really good at putting out conversational fires. She proved a point of yours to the tee. Arguing almost everything you said and dang near close to running out of there ticked off and never wanting to talk to you again. Love your podcast. Keep being the wonderful person you are.
Swisher is completely off base. Trauma clearly skews her view, making her emotional rather than objective. She’s mixing up beliefs and behaviors, and it’s a dangerous oversimplification.
I LOVE you Jillian!!! You are a breath of fresh air in our community, I look up to you so much as a gay man who considers himself as a center right person. This was painful to watch, Kara is crazy, and a stereotypical leftist and what is wrong with this country. Thank god for you and all you do!!! ❤❤❤
I’ve been watching this after watching her Matt Walsh interview and the contrast in the guests couldn’t be more stark. Swisher approaches everything from the standpoint of generalizations, narratives, and political polarization. As a result, she is not prepared to actually discuss anything with specifics because it’s about winning over for “her side.” Jillian tries to rein this in but it is to no avail.
It's wild that this guest is saying she doesn't want things to be politicized yet her entire argument for everything is political. She says she doesn't think government should be involved yet denies government or their bodies as an enemy. This Rollercoaster interview is making me dizzy and we are only 26 minutes in with no healthy discussion about the topic at hand. I'm so frustrated with all this labeling right/left talk, i just want to be able to get to the point like jillian is trying to do. We can make progress by calling everyone we don't know a lie. Make the discussion without shutting people off and down. She's calling jillian closed minded at the top of this, while being completely closed minded the whole time.
The more I watch, the more my head hurts ... Kara wants you to only focus on the rich Republicans. You were correct to point out Larry Fink, and to point to large defense contractors. She wanted to talk about Elon instead. Tunnel vision.
I cannot listen to this however I commend you for handling this “guest” as well as you did. Not a fan of her or her beliefs nor that she was happy to call so many who have varying views from her “liars”! She is intolerable!
What a rude guest. I've only watched a few interviews since I just discovered Jillian's show, and her ability to handle people politely and respectfully is remarkable.
"Swisher": Noun: One who swishes. This woman needs to spend some time in the real world and take a chill pill. Respect to Jill for having the patience of Job.
Kara: “😡😤🤬🤯👊” Jillian: “I hear you.” Holy cow she exercises patience! I consider myself a patient woman and I could not have done that with this Kara lady. She was so painful to listen to. #TeamLevelHeadedGays
Wow!!! This Kara person…. First of all Jillian I’ve always been a big fan, you helped me to change my life years ago, listening to your podcast when I would work my overnight shifts, you inspired me to hit the gym and change my lifestyle and I will be forever grateful. I found you when I was looking up Matt Walsh interviews for his movie. You were just as classy as I remember, as a mother of a 4 year old boy the trans issue has been big in my mind. I am more conservative when it comes to this. I was always taught by my parents that as long as we were in a loving respectful relationship, it doesn’t matter, who you love. So no my issue with trans is not losing the gay debate or whatever, my issue is my 4 year old son should be able to dress up as Sky for Halloween, without the fear of someone saying he was born in the wrong body and he must be a girl… it terrifies me that someone could take my child away subject him to the experimental treatments, forever alter his body because he likes to paint his nails, wants to dress up as a female paw patrol pup, he is a boy who sees his mom paints her nails and wants to do that too, he wants to fly planes when he gets big so the pup who flies planes is who he is drawn too, it doesn’t mean anything else. I grew up fishing, playing in the dirt, loving, X Men, Monster Trucks and superheroes and I could change a tire faster than my husband, doesn’t mean I should have been a boy.
I found this guest extremely one sided and deeply enmeshed with an ideology of the extreme left. For someone who stated they wanted to have a nuanced conversation, they didn’t even come close. You deserve a medal for your patient effort Jillian. OMG!
Jesus Christ. What an insufferable, condescending, interrupting guest. She tried to tell you what YOU think and what YOU are doing the entire conversation, if you can even call that a conversation. It was more of an angry rant.
yikes this guest sounds like a close-minded and angry person. Obviously her views do not stand up to even the slightest interrogation and she shuts any discussion down immediately. Also, she really talked down to Jillian throughout the interview. Jillian, I am ashamed that I underestimated you and thought you were just that lady who yelled at people on the Biggest Loser. Your approach to discourse and kindness and respect is what this country needs more than anything right now.
I just watched your Matt Walsh interview and came to listen to this after you had mentioned it during that conversation. Wow, what a difference! You and Matt were completely respectful and easy to listen to and now 10 minutes into this and I’m having trouble getting past Kara’s interrupting and unwillingness to listen.
Holy Cannoli! Nothing irritates me more than someone who refuses to listen. I find it ironic how the guest is accusing others of being cynical, yet she continuously interrupts Jillian and refuses to hear her out by invalidating her ideas. I don't think it gets more cynical than the behavior she's exhibiting! Cheers to you Jillian for being classy! There's no way I would have been able to maintain my composure the way you did.
I truly love podcasts like this. It helps me understand different perspectives. Sure, I maybe didn't love Kara's presentation, but I very much cared about her objectives and why she feels the way she does. It helps me understand others better. Thank you for this, and thank you for staying with her and having a conversation instead of just shutting it down. Stuff like this matters.
That’s a whole lot of mind reading by Swisher. That’s the same problem as your average Democrat. Arguments in bad faith. Jillian is being far too generous. Swisher is a nut. “They say this but they really mean this” No evidence, she just knows. Lol
Wow, I can barely watch this interview. This woman is a fool. Jillian, well done. You have way more patience than I have. Your points are valid. Keep up the good work.
This Kara lady is extremely closed minded and very arrogant she only believes her own thoughts, people smarter then her she simply says oh who cares or that’s not true must be nice to live in such a small closed off way of thinking - the deception is strong with that one, the way she excuses and writes off people who are more brilliant then her let’s us all know her opinions aren’t ones we need to value or listen to, you can’t argue with arrogance and ego it’s pointless
J: They just changed Title 9; K:I’m sorry, I don’t know enough about Title 9; J: ok, Title 9 is a massive [K interrupts] Yes, I know. That is Kara’s MO on every episode of Pivot.
Thr body language and scolding tome of voice only 1 person is using herenh honesty says everything. I'm a gay man, BTW, and not a republican and totally agree w Jilian. W all due respect, I find this woman igmorantly trying to group me in with Republicans so she can write me off, along w all these inconvenient truths that have, and are, still, now, ruining the lives of mostly gay children- and confused straight kids, as well- infuriating, incredibly offensive. It's all emotion; every single one of her arguments are utterly devoid of facts and logic. It's incredibly offensive and dark the way she writes off innocent lives for her ridiculous politics. There is a very sadistic & cult-ish vibe to anyone & everyone who takes the- in my opinion- WILLFULLY ignorance approach she, and virtually all liberals, take. They say nothing of substance and just all repeat the same old, tired, talking points, riddled w logical falacies, because that's all they have at this point. They seem to think they have the power to read hearts & minds, which they clearly do not. It's also QUITE RICH how they also immediately assume the moral high ground and immediately begin to judge & lecture to people, while defending the destruction of children bodies, health, lives, & spirit. Sorry, Jillian: I think you'll soon discover you're wasting your time and energy trying to reach idealogs. It's akin to trying to talk Tom Cruise out of Scientology. It's sad.. And, w all due respect, gross the way they attempt to gaslight us all like children's lives aren't literally being sacrificed, here. It's ridiculous & I truly find anyone who'd even attempt to justify such a thing pure evil. These aren't insults, btw: they're my honest opinions. They care more about being right than the ongoing destruction of children and society: THAT'S WHY WE CARE. The real question is, why doesn't she...
This woman claims to be open to difficult conversations while insistently associating Jillian’s perspective and experiences with a number of other positions she takes issue with. Evidence you’ll never be far enough left to satisfy the left.
Wow. As someone who used to think of themselves as liberal, this guest has made me realize how much the left has left me behind. If she is talking to conservatives with that type of tone and dismissiveness towards them and their thoughts, the left has no hope to change anyone’s opinions. She makes good points, but just can’t grasp that other people don’t feel the way she does about issues that are important to them. Ideas that are different than hers are dismissed as trash and the ones who think that way are idiots. Well, thinking that people are idiots is why people are divided. She is smart and knows what she is talking about on many things, but her tone and superiority complex can be very stomach turning.
You can share it as an example on how to keep your cool and be kind even when you have such a person in front of you. I'm not that strong, after 5 min I stopped watching.
This is a painful interview to listen to. I had to take breaks just to get my heart rate to slow down! 😂 Props to Jillian for holding composure, asking good questions, and allowing her guest to spin in so many tangents that often contradicted herself. It’s mind numbing that BOTH left and right extremes are basically saying the same thing but on opposite ends of a spectrum. Ultimately this is by design, and is meant to divide and conquer- but each side thinks it’s the other that’s causing it. God help us!
You say the left doesn’t listen. Kara says they do but literally doesn’t listen to you 🙃😵💫 Honestly, at my job, it’s all the left that won’t listen and are totally out of control. I feel your pain during this interview. Good job at holding it all together
Love, love, love, Jillian and how she does her research and just handles difficult conversations with grace and professionalism. Kara on the other hand, does that thing that 'Lefties' do. Start a conversation with an insult, a lie, and a dramatic gaslight statement to throw off the person who has a different opinion. This tactic used to work, but times they are changing. And because Kara is so one-sided, close-minded and bitter, like those folks on 'Shark Tank' say...'I'm out'.
Hey team! I'm sure you figured this out already... but initially I intended to only dig into censorship online, whether or not the "tech bros" are becoming authoritarian overlords, the ways in which bot farms sow dissension in our culture etc. But Kara clearly had some serious bones to pick with me. So... first we go head to head and then in the second half of the show all the aforementioned is addressed. Can't wait to hear your thoughts!
Jillian the reason nobody on the left will have conversations with you is because you are a threat to their moral superiority complex and you are not towing their party line anymore so welcome to the right. You will never be able to get these people out of that pit. The worst part about this they can’t see that they’re headed toward a cliff at breakneck speed. The cliff is communism. They have no idea that in a communist community the elitist overlords really have no tolerance for gay people and will exterminate them nazi style. Theyve all been hoodwinked. Get off the fence and leave them to their own demise. You cannot reason with sheep.
@@annalightsaber5060as a socialist who is also an Independent Voter, the right needs to seriously stop pounding on the “communist” drum because it truly demonstrates how ignorant the right is on this topic. Nazis is an extreme far RIGHT wing white nationalist ideology that stands against democracy and free societies while promoting whites as a master race (research eugenics era in USA 1920s) which has nothing to do with communism, which is an economic approach to the disruption of wealth an organization or country enjoys through the labor in which it was achieved (aka workers rights or various classes such as poor/middle/rich). This is the socialist foundation of Unions, who ended child labor, increased worker wages, freed up weekends, gave us a 40 hr work week, safe work environments, & work benefits like PTO, paid holidays, medical care, ect. Left = freedoms, representative democracy, ability to achieve increased wealth while Right = dictatorship, one ruler, slavery.
Jillian based on your responses I got the impression that you might be a moderate who doesn’t go to one extreme of the two spectrums of left & right, I greatly appreciated that as our society needs more centrist speakers to bring objectivity back to the forefront and away from divisive extremism. Thank you for all you’re doing!
loving the show and your level headed points of view on many topics... This episode was mentioned on the No Agenda podcast with Adam Curry fyi. I'll be listening!
She talks about the right being close minded, this woman is extremely close-minded. Not sure why you wasted your breath with her Jillian. Love you Jillian I have all your workout videos and you've helped me lose weight. ❤
Jillian's guest is doing THE VERY THING she accuses “the right” of. How predictable. She is the closed-minded absolutist pigeonholing and demonizing those who don’t agree with her, refusing to have a conversation, and talking over Jillian. Just look at her body language. She’s closed off, defensive, and passive-aggressive. Look at Jillian’s body language open, inviting, practically pleading for her to set aside the stereotypes and logical fallacies and THINK about differing opinions instead of reflexively deflecting them. She’s not a journalist, she’s an editorialist.
Correct!
we should not tackle ANY subject or discuss ANYTHING except the "bigger" problems. what is the main problem facing any intelligent person is/are persons and groups saying X is true.. and silencing the other side.
Wow. This was beyond painful to listen to AND watch. Jillian as always handled this interview with kindness and maturity. Kara on the other hand… 🤯
Honestly - she showed up. And most won't. So at least we got a jumping off point.
@@JillianMichaels you are correct. And once we got into the actual discussion there were parts where it was interesting and informative.
Side note, I’m totally fangirling over you responding to my comment. 😍
@@JillianMichaels this is why these platforms matter. Agree or disagree, everyone should know how a person with influence thinks when pressed. There is no longer a true "press" outside of these podcast conversations. Propagandists is a better title.
Honestly, you were far more patient than I would have been Jillian. The moral vanity of this woman is nauseating. There is nothing complicated about this issue, and it’s only been made complicated by zealots like Kara. Men should not be prancing around women’s changing rooms with their penises hanging out. Male rapists shouldn’t ‘t be imprisoned in female penitentiaries and, if you were born a man, you must compete against men is sports, regardless of whether you “feel” like a woman. And, perhaps most importantly, children who have yet to experience the joys of sex or are not mature enough to seriously decide whether they might want children one day should NEVER be counselled toward the butchery of a chemical or surgical transition. These were uncontroversial opinions until about 5 minutes ago.
@@JillianMichaels She did you a favor, the GOP doesn't want you to have marriage equality or kids. Fox is talking out of the side of their mouths. They represent the christian right. They do not like the gay community. Wake up girl ! You don't have to like the democrats either but at least they protected your right to get married.
What a hostile, closed minded person. "Rules for thee but not for me"! Ugh!!
So a standard liberal 😂
Thank you, I had that very thought!
They are all like this most of them at least.
Did you watch till the end? The conversation gradually becomes more fun and interesting.
Jillian
I love your show and your open mind and heart
Your guest is irritating beyond measure
You handled it beautifully
But it felt like you were trying to breath in a wind tunnel
She exhausted me
Perfect analogy
She is so insufferable. How had she even become a famous person
❤❤❤
Guest says: ‘let’s discuss the nuance’ then says ‘we can’t discuss this issue because its ACTUALLY a front for these other issues’ …. and nothing is actually discussed.
She should just come out and just say “I HATE ALL REPUBLICANS THAT DON’T EMBRACE ME AND MY IDEAS” and just be done with it.
@@danielshayder8875 meh more like “ I hate everyone who disagrees with me, my way or the highway”
Mad respect for you Jillian for having tough conversations.
This woman is a fool in my opinion.
Guest: these are important topics that should be discussed but we can't discuss them because it will encourage the big bad "right ! SMH
This woman says she’s willing to have conversations and proceeds to say, “I’m not going to talk about ____.”
This lady is everything she says she is against.
What's new? They reached a point where even in Hollywood movies you realize that they had written that thinking of "the extreme right" but in fact all that are saying it is fitting the lefties and they don't even realize they did that.
man, jillian is so patient and this other woman is just inflammatory. bless jillian, i have no temperament anymore for people who speak this hostilely when they have a great opportunity to bridge the gap in these discussions.
right! I dont know how shes so kind and patient. Because that woman makes me furious
Making shit up isn’t an argument. “The right” isn’t a boogyman, it’s half the country and “they” make good points that you won’t listen to making you the closed minded one.
What's so odd is she ends up agreeing with me on most of the points. I'm just grateful she showed up. Most people on the far left won't show up for it and she did. Have to give her props for that.
@@JillianMichaelsshe’s a horrible liar -she always cursed when she knew you were right-she wouldn’t even talk about Michael whose an honest broker ! She’s trash -sorry
@JillianMichaels - I appreciate you opening your eyes, Jillian 👏🙌. I give kudos to your wife, I imagine she's played a huge part in your awakening. Nearly everything coming out of Kara's mouth was her describing exactly what the "left" has done and not connecting those dots. Projection, Projection, Projection...that's the left.
Kara is absolutely clueless about the significance of movement behind Trump. That man took a bullet for this country, due to vitriol of the left & the media. He's rich, he had a grrrreat life before entering the political colosseum. He made us energy independent for the 1rst time in our nation's history. He donated his presidential paychecks to a Veterans organization. He worked for free!
Keep digging for the truth. You should interview Brandon Straka, the creator of the Walk Away movement. His story is incredible! Thanks for trying to bridge the gap between sides. Unfortunately it's not always possible to reach the psychologically blocked.
“The right” isn’t a boogyman, but all the right wing political pundits who make money by views and impressions, they surely are and they have demonized LGBTQ people and majority of this country don't agree with those ideas.
She immediately accused you of cruelty and being a useful idiot. She's a jerk. @@JillianMichaels
Did this woman just say her own kids aren’t interesting because they are cis & into ballet? And that being gay is a choice? I’m so confused & baffled at her angry and dismissive approach to every topic. This was so hard to listen to 🥴 Good on you, Jillian for keeping yourself professional and open.
Right there she justified every far right winger who insists homosexuality is a choice, and the left is trying to turn everyone gay.
I have been listening to Jillian for about 15 years. Jillian has always used critical thinking skills in all her topics discussed . I find her kindness and openness to listen and learn from others refreshing ; even when she may think differently. She is a lovely human being and a great teacher.😊
Jillian, we love you and respect you for your willingness to interview people on both sides of the issues. Kara needs to leave her echo chamber and MEET with people on the right to hear actual opinions, not just what she reads online. If the Olympics had instead anti-trans nonsense for the world to view on TV then Kara wouldn't be so flippant in her response about it.
Kara in a nutshell:
Jillian: “Look at what I said on Twitter”
Kara: “I’m not on Twitter”
Jillian: “oh, ok”
Kara: “Actually I am, I was there first”
this women is nutty af
I noticed that too. 😂 She’s a complete narcissist. She will disagree with anything you say. If Jillian called her lesbian she’d have corrected her and said she’s straight 😂
Sports is not a wedge issue. It’s a defining issue.Sports is a window into the widespread violation of women’s rights. It’s not complicated.
And I voted for gay marriage!
The last supper was a wedge stunt.
Completely dismissive of you and the weaponisation of gender as a gateway to harming children. That’s the effective truth regardless of nefarious intent. Kids are getting sterilised. And Elon might have high IQ but limited EQ.
Trans are inflicting harm on women and children. That is just the plain truth on this subject.
You literally described how it is a WEDGE. Republicans are using this as a wedge to erase all trans rights slowly
I clicked 👍 for this video but a more-accurate statistic would be 👍 for Jillian, 👎 for Kara. 😂
Your guest hates or refuses to discuss anyone or anything she disagrees with. She must have trauma that needs to be dealt with. Bitterness oozes out of her. She must be fun to be around.
Yes trauma for sure
And then she talks about how fox is just there to enrage people
Right! My god can u imagine having her at ur party. Someone shot me
I was saying this exact thing...she's so angry and uncompromising
Yes, it needs to be discussed. So...why was it like pulling teeth to get your guest to discuss it.
Wow... the defensiveness of the guest is so unfortunate - she is the one who is enraged/bringing the rage. She is doing what she says other are doing. Yes, the "right" is using/absusing issues.... but so is the "left". The left is just as weaponized as the right. Jillian has been able to see it, Kara hasn't. Unfortunately she is an example of why it is so hard to bridge the gap -- even though she and Jillian agree on most things, her defensiveness doesn't allow her to see that. Sigh. THANK YOU Jillian for your patience!
As a fellow left wing person, the first half of this interview was honestly embarrassing. I got the impression that Kara is in a bit of a media bubble and it was clear that Kara hasn't bothered to do the same level of research into transgender medical care as Jillian does - she was pretty dismissive when Jillian asked her to read the various scientific reports. Yes, these issues get politicized unfairly, but refusing to engage with the science because you already have your mind made up based on your political affiliation is doing a vulnerable group of people a huge disservice.
Perfect, with one correction - she isn't in a media bubble, she IS the media bubble.
I could already see the hypocrisy when Jillian asked her why she said, “is she going to come at me with her right wing republican stuff” then proceeds to whine of there being teams politically. Like, girl! You JUST lead with the very thing you criticized! How is this not obvious?
Your guest won’t let you have your own view.
Calling Tom Cotton and Josh Hawley “modified neo-nazi look” is absolutely disgusting. This woman is begone condescending and her constantly correcting Jillian like she is child is wild
Jillian I appreciate the class you showed and the tolerance for all you actually practice. She’s inflaming the conversation and you are trying to use common sense. Thank you for being normal in a world of crazy!
For those of you who do not know Kara Swisher, here’s what you need to know: she is right about everything…all the time. And anyone who disagrees with her is wrong.
WOW! Love you, Jillian -sorry I don’t have time to listen to her bash the “right” about being transphobic about males in female sports…she is just wrong! One thing she’s talking about does not correlate with another. “it’s much more complex” doesn’t cut it-and she’s RIDICULOUS lumping us all together about gay marriage rights -WTH?! I’ll listen next time-Thank you for what you do! ☺️
Jillian's patience for this woman's egocentric "my way is the right way" attitude is more than I would be able to bear. The lack of perspective taking skills and awareness of internal inconsistencies (such as the idea that we can go and "defend democracy" by starting wars with countries that function differently than our interesting experiment in progress or "our tech companies" have more acceptable motives than those of China) is mentally fatiguing to be assaulted with. You can't educate someone who is so determined not to be cured of the ignorance that they cling to. Thank heavens she isn't in charge of determining any policies that affects peoples lives and freedom to be different than what she thinks is acceptable.
These type of inconsistent people will drive you bonkers, it’s like I’m taking crazy pills 💊🤪
What an insufferable woman Swisher is. This was so hard to watch. She is the person that makes people in the middle mover right, and people on the right more more right.
@@Thesotochannelblock Thank you, I had that very thought!
I don’t think I’ve ever seen a worse, more obvious case of Projection than this interview with Kara. Literally every single thing she accused the right of, she does in this interview, sometimes within seconds of having accused the other side of doing it. Insane
The irony was palpable when she stated that the people who dislike the Olympics needed to, “get over it“ but then proceeded to talk about how Jillian shouldn’t speak because it is damaging/offensive to the LGBT and women’s community and movement…
Swisher's argument about "The French" running the olympics would TOTALLY CHANGE if the French had decided to criticize being gay or making some kind of fun of homosexuality.
Or if they made a mockery of Islam
@@graciegifford9691 Exactly
Haha yeah, I didn't catch that while she was handwaving the olympic spectacle but yeah, she absolutely would lose her mind.
This woman is the very definition of “educated ignorance”. If I were Jillian I would have cut this interview off at 30 minutes, because I did.
I’m reading the comments before watching it. Quite sure based off what I’m reading I won’t make it very far into it as well.
Children are too young to have adults asking and discussing these things. They are too impressionable. That's why it matters!
I think an adult letting their child make a decision to have life altering treatments or surgeries borders on child abuse. Scratch that, it is child abuse. In fact I think it's criminal, but I won't go down that road right now. The laws need to be established. It's good to discuss these feelings and ideas but the parent should be researching the outcomes and educating the kid about them. Then, when they are adults, if they think it's worth the cost, they can make those changes to their bodies.
Sorry Jilllynn. I gave it about 30 minutes and she is so inflammatory. She’s egocentric. I’ll be honest. She’s exactly how the left thinks TRUMP acts.
Even Trump is willing to listen to people. The people who don't know that are the people who refuse to give the man a chance.
WOW! Her disappointment in her children being straight and boring is sad.
My face when she said that. 😳
It was clearly a joke, and a benign one at that. She was literally laughing saying it.
@@indigo_falcon was it though?
@@cjralson It clearly was.
@@micklake4214it was a half joke but you could tell by the way she said it and the expression on her face that there was some truth behind it.
Was told as a joke, but doesn’t mean it’s not true.
This woman is exactly why we can’t get anywhere.
I can’t stand snobby people who think they know everything and pretend to be so open minded but in reality are so closed minded because they think everything they think and say is right and everything and everyone else is wrong no matter what!
Omg this guest is so ill prepared? Clearly obvious Jillian has read all the research and it’s just her educating her live on air. The guest is very rude and accusative. Thank God for Jillian
Can you imagine being disappointed in your children for who they are?! Saying it out loud so her children can hear it! There is nothing wrong with being gay but parents don't wish for that for their children. How can you respect anything this women says after that?! Wow!
THIS WAS WHAT I WAS THINKING… the contradiction of “if you want to be gay than be gay” to argue that NOONE is pushing anyone to be trans… all while within an hour saying her own children are boring because they are CIS. Like girl if your kids were the type that REALLY wanted your approval what do you think would happen?!? Exhausting individual
I’d honestly would like to know which laws being passed are anti gay? Honest question. I’m not trying to antagonize.
Your question was asked two weeks ago it says and still not a single answer. I think that’s the answer. 😉.
Jillian, you have the patience of a saint!!!❤ What an example of staying calm and professional in an irritating situation.
Kara is assigning motive to "the Right" from her own cynical imaginings all while doing her best to "other" and demonize those think differently than her. Kara seems to be projecting her motives onto her chosen adversary. So sad. It just perpetuates division. Good in ya, Jillian.
The right absolutely demonizes trans people. Have you ever listened to them?
Precisely and with absolutely no foundation
My god if inflammation was a person. This woman is the poster child.
Haha! Right on!
Jillian…adore you but i couldn't finish this…the inaccurate assumptions and bashing of the right i have no time for! You were patient and open but she was not…no thank you! Keep the truth risning!
UGG. 52 minutes in. I can’t imagine that anything productive is going to emerge and I just can’t take her constant aggressive interruptions. God bless you, Jillian for trying.
I only made it to 45 minutes and started scrolling comments. You win
As an Independent Voter & Lesbian who raised two adult daughters on my own, I appreciate you Jillian for taking an objective stand against the trans humanist agenda when it comes to protecting children & women’s only spaces. I struggled with my sexuality as I was growing up & there’s NO WAY I can agree to allowing a child to make such a huge life impacting decision to alter their development because of the massive influence of their environment is so prevalent on who they think they are in that time of their lives, which drastically changes once they become adults living on their own as it’s during this time of their lives they truly start to connect with who they are outside of external influences.
And the thing is… the left is actively pushing us away and calling us transphobic, etc. for trying to stand up for women’s only spaces & to not push the most vulnerable (our children) into lifelong decisions that many regret.
I was far left and I’m now centre right. I genuinely am starting to become a little bit of genuine anger towards trans people because of this REFUSAL to listen and instead jump to cancel us.
Oh Jillian, it was so hard to watch this. Is there any way you can ask guests to not curse so much? It's hard to listen to... and shows her level of mediocrity.. not to be mean
You're such a light filled spirit with so much patience to deal with that.
Keep shining!! 🌟🌟🌟
I wish her guest’s mic could be muted so every last one of the “Hmms,” and such weren’t heard. That women could not keep
silent.
Excruciating. I can't stand how she decides what every one who disagrees with her actually means.
She has no ability to see her own team as it is.
Yea her whole point of view is based on mischaracterisation of the oppositions views it’s hilarious
@@adrianharry5336 With that leftist arrogant voice. 😑
Wow! Data doesn’t matter, only her biased opinion! I had to strip watching!
I think Jillian handles Kara well.
I get Jillian’s point. You can’t expect conservative people to respect alternative lifestyle choices if liberals are saying or doing irreverent things about Christianity. Ideally all people should respect each other.
What does the "Olympics" a morden multi national, multi cultural compation that is based on a pagan festival have anything to do with Christianity? Much of Christian imagery is based on pagan art. Know one complains that it is insulting to pagans or their pagan ancestors. Maybe if you do not like pagan imagery you should not watch a traditionaly pagan festival.
@@micklake4214 that’s a reach. They knew exactly what they were doing and how it would look. They wanted to cause a stir for publicity and it worked.
I believe in laws for kids. Protesting kids from abuse is not political.
I have so much love and respect for you Jillian for being able to deal with this woman. There is no two way street with her...gross
I LOVE YOU JILLIAN!!
Jillian, I have been a fan of yours since the biggest loser days. I really enjoy listening to you talk because you speak with such eloquence and grace, and deliver facts, along with personal experience, instead of just opinions. I really admire you for having these difficult conversations, which you handle so incredibly graceful and are really good at putting out conversational fires. She proved a point of yours to the tee. Arguing almost everything you said and dang near close to running out of there ticked off and never wanting to talk to you again. Love your podcast. Keep being the wonderful person you are.
Once again Jillian is right. Thank You Jillian!!
No, she is not. She said at the beginning she is not a right wing republican
Swisher is completely off base. Trauma clearly skews her view, making her emotional rather than objective. She’s mixing up beliefs and behaviors, and it’s a dangerous oversimplification.
I don't know how Jillian handles this, but she nails it. ❤
The lack of self awareness by this woman is astonishing
I LOVE you Jillian!!! You are a breath of fresh air in our community, I look up to you so much as a gay man who considers himself as a center right person. This was painful to watch, Kara is crazy, and a stereotypical leftist and what is wrong with this country. Thank god for you and all you do!!! ❤❤❤
This woman is stuck in victim mode, everytime jillian tries to get to a solution to middle ground she swings back into victim mode
I’ve been watching this after watching her Matt Walsh interview and the contrast in the guests couldn’t be more stark. Swisher approaches everything from the standpoint of generalizations, narratives, and political polarization. As a result, she is not prepared to actually discuss anything with specifics because it’s about winning over for “her side.” Jillian tries to rein this in but it is to no avail.
It's wild that this guest is saying she doesn't want things to be politicized yet her entire argument for everything is political. She says she doesn't think government should be involved yet denies government or their bodies as an enemy. This Rollercoaster interview is making me dizzy and we are only 26 minutes in with no healthy discussion about the topic at hand. I'm so frustrated with all this labeling right/left talk, i just want to be able to get to the point like jillian is trying to do. We can make progress by calling everyone we don't know a lie. Make the discussion without shutting people off and down. She's calling jillian closed minded at the top of this, while being completely closed minded the whole time.
The more I watch, the more my head hurts ... Kara wants you to only focus on the rich Republicans. You were correct to point out Larry Fink, and to point to large defense contractors. She wanted to talk about Elon instead. Tunnel vision.
I feel for this guest. Having rigid believes that cannot tolerate being challenged comes from a lot of pain.
Perhaps it does, but that does not excuse her rudeness.
I cannot listen to this however I commend you for handling this “guest” as well as you did. Not a fan of her or her beliefs nor that she was happy to call so many who have varying views from her “liars”! She is intolerable!
What a rude guest. I've only watched a few interviews since I just discovered Jillian's show, and her ability to handle people politely and respectfully is remarkable.
"Swisher": Noun: One who swishes. This woman needs to spend some time in the real world and take a chill pill. Respect to Jill for having the patience of Job.
Kara: “😡😤🤬🤯👊”
Jillian: “I hear you.”
Holy cow she exercises patience! I consider myself a patient woman and I could not have done that with this Kara lady. She was so painful to listen to.
#TeamLevelHeadedGays
Wow!!! This Kara person…. First of all Jillian I’ve always been a big fan, you helped me to change my life years ago, listening to your podcast when I would work my overnight shifts, you inspired me to hit the gym and change my lifestyle and I will be forever grateful. I found you when I was looking up Matt Walsh interviews for his movie. You were just as classy as I remember, as a mother of a 4 year old boy the trans issue has been big in my mind. I am more conservative when it comes to this. I was always taught by my parents that as long as we were in a loving respectful relationship, it doesn’t matter, who you love. So no my issue with trans is not losing the gay debate or whatever, my issue is my 4 year old son should be able to dress up as Sky for Halloween, without the fear of someone saying he was born in the wrong body and he must be a girl… it terrifies me that someone could take my child away subject him to the experimental treatments, forever alter his body because he likes to paint his nails, wants to dress up as a female paw patrol pup, he is a boy who sees his mom paints her nails and wants to do that too, he wants to fly planes when he gets big so the pup who flies planes is who he is drawn too, it doesn’t mean anything else. I grew up fishing, playing in the dirt, loving, X Men, Monster Trucks and superheroes and I could change a tire faster than my husband, doesn’t mean I should have been a boy.
I found this guest extremely one sided and deeply enmeshed with an ideology of the extreme left. For someone who stated they wanted to have a nuanced conversation, they didn’t even come close. You deserve a medal for your patient effort Jillian. OMG!
Jesus Christ. What an insufferable, condescending, interrupting guest. She tried to tell you what YOU think and what YOU are doing the entire conversation, if you can even call that a conversation. It was more of an angry rant.
yikes this guest sounds like a close-minded and angry person. Obviously her views do not stand up to even the slightest interrogation and she shuts any discussion down immediately. Also, she really talked down to Jillian throughout the interview.
Jillian, I am ashamed that I underestimated you and thought you were just that lady who yelled at people on the Biggest Loser. Your approach to discourse and kindness and respect is what this country needs more than anything right now.
I just watched your Matt Walsh interview and came to listen to this after you had mentioned it during that conversation. Wow, what a difference! You and Matt were completely respectful and easy to listen to and now 10 minutes into this and I’m having trouble getting past Kara’s interrupting and unwillingness to listen.
I did the same. 🤭 I had never heard about Jillian before an interview with Matt.
Holy Cannoli! Nothing irritates me more than someone who refuses to listen. I find it ironic how the guest is accusing others of being cynical, yet she continuously interrupts Jillian and refuses to hear her out by invalidating her ideas. I don't think it gets more cynical than the behavior she's exhibiting! Cheers to you Jillian for being classy! There's no way I would have been able to maintain my composure the way you did.
I truly love podcasts like this. It helps me understand different perspectives. Sure, I maybe didn't love Kara's presentation, but I very much cared about her objectives and why she feels the way she does. It helps me understand others better. Thank you for this, and thank you for staying with her and having a conversation instead of just shutting it down. Stuff like this matters.
It’s people like this that has made me lean republican. I work in a school district and I wish they would just teach math and the basics.
That’s a whole lot of mind reading by Swisher.
That’s the same problem as your average Democrat.
Arguments in bad faith.
Jillian is being far too generous.
Swisher is a nut.
“They say this but they really mean this”
No evidence, she just knows. Lol
So far her conversation is "shut up."
Wow, I can barely watch this interview. This woman is a fool. Jillian, well done. You have way more patience than I have. Your points are valid. Keep up the good work.
This lady is so full of hate it’s unreal. What on earth did Jillian do to deserve “you should play me in a movie”?!? 😅
This Kara lady is extremely closed minded and very arrogant she only believes her own thoughts, people smarter then her she simply says oh who cares or that’s not true must be nice to live in such a small closed off way of thinking - the deception is strong with that one, the way she excuses and writes off people who are more brilliant then her let’s us all know her opinions aren’t ones we need to value or listen to, you can’t argue with arrogance and ego it’s pointless
J: They just changed Title 9; K:I’m sorry, I don’t know enough about Title 9; J: ok, Title 9 is a massive [K interrupts] Yes, I know.
That is Kara’s MO on every episode of Pivot.
Thr body language and scolding tome of voice only 1 person is using herenh honesty says everything. I'm a gay man, BTW, and not a republican and totally agree w Jilian. W all due respect, I find this woman igmorantly trying to group me in with Republicans so she can write me off, along w all these inconvenient truths that have, and are, still, now, ruining the lives of mostly gay children- and confused straight kids, as well- infuriating, incredibly offensive. It's all emotion; every single one of her arguments are utterly devoid of facts and logic. It's incredibly offensive and dark the way she writes off innocent lives for her ridiculous politics. There is a very sadistic & cult-ish vibe to anyone & everyone who takes the- in my opinion- WILLFULLY ignorance approach she, and virtually all liberals, take. They say nothing of substance and just all repeat the same old, tired, talking points, riddled w logical falacies, because that's all they have at this point. They seem to think they have the power to read hearts & minds, which they clearly do not. It's also QUITE RICH how they also immediately assume the moral high ground and immediately begin to judge & lecture to people, while defending the destruction of children bodies, health, lives, & spirit. Sorry, Jillian: I think you'll soon discover you're wasting your time and energy trying to reach idealogs. It's akin to trying to talk Tom Cruise out of Scientology. It's sad.. And, w all due respect, gross the way they attempt to gaslight us all like children's lives aren't literally being sacrificed, here. It's ridiculous & I truly find anyone who'd even attempt to justify such a thing pure evil. These aren't insults, btw: they're my honest opinions. They care more about being right than the ongoing destruction of children and society: THAT'S WHY WE CARE. The real question is, why doesn't she...
This woman claims to be open to difficult conversations while insistently associating Jillian’s perspective and experiences with a number of other positions she takes issue with. Evidence you’ll never be far enough left to satisfy the left.
THIS WOMAN, Kara, is exhausting to listen to.
Jillian thank you so much for speaking truth and not being afraid. We need more of this level headedness! You’re refreshing in today’s world.
whoever this Swisher man is, is crazy
Wow. As someone who used to think of themselves as liberal, this guest has made me realize how much the left has left me behind. If she is talking to conservatives with that type of tone and dismissiveness towards them and their thoughts, the left has no hope to change anyone’s opinions. She makes good points, but just can’t grasp that other people don’t feel the way she does about issues that are important to them. Ideas that are different than hers are dismissed as trash and the ones who think that way are idiots. Well, thinking that people are idiots is why people are divided. She is smart and knows what she is talking about on many things, but her tone and superiority complex can be very stomach turning.
Hopefully Jillian realizes how insane the left is after this interview.
She speaks about how important it was for her to have children, yet she's okay with sterling children.
I share Jillian’s podcast damn near weekly, I refuse to share this one.
You can share it as an example on how to keep your cool and be kind even when you have such a person in front of you. I'm not that strong, after 5 min I stopped watching.
Jillian, you are an amazingly patient and understanding person. Your interviews are just great. Your intellectual honesty is refreshing. Cheers!
As soon as she said she thought Rachel Maddow had some good points and attacks from the right, she lost it. Both sides are awful in various ways.
This is a painful interview to listen to. I had to take breaks just to get my heart rate to slow down! 😂 Props to Jillian for holding composure, asking good questions, and allowing her guest to spin in so many tangents that often contradicted herself. It’s mind numbing that BOTH left and right extremes are basically saying the same thing but on opposite ends of a spectrum. Ultimately this is by design, and is meant to divide and conquer- but each side thinks it’s the other that’s causing it. God help us!
You say the left doesn’t listen. Kara says they do but literally doesn’t listen to you 🙃😵💫 Honestly, at my job, it’s all the left that won’t listen and are totally out of control. I feel your pain during this interview. Good job at holding it all together
What a refreshing take from Jillian! Swisher is just an awful, angry person!
God Bless you Jillian. You tried.
Love, love, love, Jillian and how she does her research and just handles difficult conversations with grace and professionalism. Kara on the other hand, does that thing that 'Lefties' do. Start a conversation with an insult, a lie, and a dramatic gaslight statement to throw off the person who has a different opinion. This tactic used to work, but times they are changing. And because Kara is so one-sided, close-minded and bitter, like those folks on 'Shark Tank' say...'I'm out'.