A thing nobody noticed in the trailer is that you can actualy hit enemies when they grab other players, so they are doing some ajustments and i imagine to the net code too.
I think its just supposed to be a fun filler game to just enjoy with friends while we wait for the next big project, like its essentially just a dlc that’s a new game mode
Why would they bother making another big project when slop will make them tons of money off name alone? They're never getting funding approval for anything that's not Elden Ring ever again 😂😂😂
@@jollygrapefruit786what do you mean why would they make another big game if they can make money off this?? They have literally always made multiple games at a time and we know they still are because Miyazaki isn’t making this. There’s also no microtranscations in this so it has no possibility of making more money than Elden ring. You saying this is like saying deracine (a side game they made between games) is was the end for fromsoft.
Thanks Jon! I don’t worry too much. They’re trying really hard to build an experience over a story. I think they’ve gone back and picked the best bosses to fight as a group and make huge efforts to make the night lords memorable, fun and difficult. Every weapon MUST have a purpose because you don’t know if you’ll find another during the day
PvP is dying. Fromsoft isn’t the only company shying away from it either. Pve with a multiplayer experience is the wave and by far the most popular way to play ER. I missed your vids Jon. Thank you for putting your takes out there. Pvpers need you. Much love🖤
While i am very disappointed that Night Reign doesnt seem have pvp despite being an ideal design space for it, i think it is incredibly discourteous to make any judgment claims of it until we have actually played. We know VERY little about the game so far.
In my opinion, it's honestly simply way too early to judge: if it's meant to be a cooperative experience, meaning that the core of the game will be the GAMEPLAY and not everything else (the world building lore, the scenery, the music, the story et cetera) unlike the main game, then I'm holding my judgement until I've actually played the game with both strangers and friends. They can re-use assets from whatever game they want, as long as they change things like the original netcode to provide us players with a different, fresh, pleasant experience in the gameplay. Sure, the aesthetic aspect has some undeniable weight, and I'm also a bit bummed out by the shocking nameless king bs, but my impression is that it's not meant to be the selling point of the spinoff, therefore it should not be our criteria to define whether the game is good or bad, or slop.
When people say they don't like Elden ring, it always blows my mind. Maybe I just like the idea of so many builds that I overlook problems. Also I like Dark Souls too a lot because there were a lot of weapons, a lot of spells and a lot of ways to create your character. I disliked bloodborne because I felt forced into a character which is the complete opposite of what I expect from an RPG.
Hard disagree. They really shot themselves in the foot and I could be massively wrong, but I think they need to urgently announce at least a post-launch DLC or free update that adds a pvp mode otherwise this will not sell nearly as well as Elden Ring
@Nobody32990 yea there's a closing circle. But the way the trailer shows it, it's just a rogue like with sekiro combat, its flashy and play like your are and elden ring boss. The best bosses they've put out are comming back, like a greatest hits thing. And out of the 7 bosses they show, 4 are unique to ekden ring nr. Also seamless co op. Its not a full game, but there never missed before. I see this as some great 40 doller fun before whatever is next
nobody said it needs to be only mutlyplayer game buddy. but at least basic multypalyer elements is what every good game has today. stop trying to justified outdated game design. there is a reason elden ring lost 90% of its playerbase
@@GamingDualities Oh.. I wasn't defending it!. I'm actually taking a shot at Fromsoft. Nightreign is going to be an exclusive multiplayer experience and net code is something Fromsoft has never been able to get right.. For their sake I hope this game uses dedicated servers and not the unreliable p2p method they have used in every game.
@@GamingDualitiesEven if it isn’t multiplayer only, if they don’t fix the net code it’s gonna suck playing with friends. The marketing so far points to it being a multiplayer roguelike. You can play Castle Crashers solo, but the game is designed to be done with friends. Bosses like the Cerberus boss already look like they’d be a hassle to do Solo. It really depends on how they do balance between solo and team rounds.
@@cyberhawk9950they've already stated that enemies, bosses and loot will scale to player count, how that actually works will be questionable for now. But yea souls multiplayer connection has always sucked.
@@GamingDualities bro what are u even talking about lmao single player is "outdated" and elden ring lost "90%" of its player base are u even a gamer? we gotta gatekeep bc of ppl like u
Keep the slop coming Slopzaki 😍 But for real though, yes, they've earned the benefit of the doubt. Elden Ring felt a bit outdated in many aspects, but it's still a great game. We'll have to wait and see, but I'm genuinely not impressed with what I've see up to now. Also Merry Christmas and a happy new year, Jon!
Nightreign looks genuinely like a game that, if not for FromSoftware, I would never play. I didn't even care about Sekiro and I'm broadly indifferent to roguelikes. No character creation or PVP means I'll have painfully little to engage with on top of everything else. I just see a lot of folks saying slop when I think they mean unimpressive/disappointing/boring/etc. The distinction is probably not important to most but I'd hate to disparage From for branching out just because it's not a direction I wanted. If they made a Battle Royale with the same assets, team, and quality, I'd be putting people through walls to get in early. And a Merry Christmas / Happy New Year to you, too!
It's them dipping their toes into new genres, if you pay attention you'll see that quite a lot of the recent releases have been them trying out new genres.
Interesting video. I like roguelikes so I'm excited for it. The best take I've seen is someone describing it as your favorite band making an EP. It's not the new album, just a chance for the band to experiment and try a few things out.
There is no such thing as a game (or any product really) made by no-one and for no-one tbh. There is always a creator and a target audience. The creator may have really specific and niche interests or there can be many of them, in a "too many cooks" scenario. I'd say the worst thing you can experience nowadays in media are products made to appeal to as many people as possible, which will always and inevitably feel lacklustre to the majority of consumers. With that being said, Merry Christmas
It is a bit non-literal but I really just meant that there are projects where no one involved actually took any specific direction on what to do with them. Something like when a script has been kicking around for years, the director changes up once or twice, and the roles are recast, then no one is actually there to do any serious rewriting or revision and the project comes out representing none of the creative perspectives of anyone involved. Everyone was just following someone else's cues but no one actually had any idea what they were trying to make. Of course people still made it, but the "no one" would be the lack of a unified vision or direction. and Merry Christmas to you, as well!
I would actually like to see the pursuer be a boss invader, if its move set got sped up and hit boxes fixed i could see it being way stronger than crucible knights/tree sentinels and a much better checklist for newer souls players.
My thoughts on Night Reign are that its going to play fine. Reused assets are meh, especially entire bosses and characters. Its going to be mediocre. Not terrible tho. Its just extremely insulting to have the Elden Ring name on it because it is NOT Elden Ring. It is something entirely different. It does not deserve the name Elden Ring, it shouldve just been called Night Reign. Completely different mechanics, different exploration, different characters, lack of character customization, lack of personal build diversity, different gameplay all around. This is its own game for a reason. So it should have been named as such instead of using the Elden Ring IP for a blatant cash grab. They know casuals will eat it up.
2025 is the year of Wilds though, so I'm not exactly concerned with the PvP+character bereft Naruto-running allstars Souls game being slop. Miyazaki already told us Sekiro combat is being advanced in(to) another title, and before that we already knew he wants to experiment with elements that didn't quite fit the so-far Souls formula, so this means the next proper From game drops 2026 at the absolute earliest and will represent another advancement for From and the industry both, as it should. Meanwhile, Nightreign can be more than a meme if it wants to, sure. I'll play it, whatever.
I think if you own a PC, it's kinda hard to get excited about this since you can just mod the game however you want but for someone whos only ever had a console (me and plenty others) it kinda immediately jumps out as "hell yeah finally something a little different" idk that's just how I look at it at least
Because it's being developed at the cost of Elden Ring's polish and MAYBE one more expansion. Things people actually asked From for. On top of Miyazaki's bs announcement about "no more Elden Ring content".
Well we know one thing for sure, it was conceived as a cash grab to capitalize on ERs success. That alone is enough to make the assumption that it won't be the highest of quality if you base it off what we have seen in the past industry wide. I understand the worry. I don't think it will be a run of the mill cash grab game, but that would make it the exception industry wide.
@@nunchuksteev9811 That was both Dark souls 2 and 3. Bandai "Hey Dark souls 1 was a hit, let's make the next two games sequels to it." Miyazaki "Fuck."
i remember hearing something about how fromsoft wanted elden ring to be the next big thing they focus on, something they wanted to support and expand for years, so i wholly expected them to do stuff like this also i feel that "making my own ttrpg" bit, i've just made one myself and i'm gonna playtest it with friends soon, big respect for game design
I just don´t care all that much for a primarily multiplayer focused experience and I think a lot of other FromSoft enjoyers feel the same. That said, I think it´s obvious that the B team at FromSoft is working on this while the A team is doing something actually worthwhile. (like Bloodborne 2)
I honestly look forward to it since based on the trailer and what I have read it is in my alley. It looks like a fresh and interesting and honestly pretty fun. Now I will be caustious about it but I am looking forward to it.
That is a title. That is such a title. Like, wow, that is just, really, letters used in a specific combination to create a title for a video on UA-cam.
I've remade a few so I have two active at the moment. Thinking of making a faith build that can use every faith weapon & incantation in Limgrave but it'd be both sort of high level and also very low HP. Still might try it just for fun.
@@aesthetiquette3716 I usually plan builds using EIP gaming but idk how searchable those are. I should make build videos but in the immediate, the build on-screen is a starting Astrologer level 25 +3/+1 with 23 Int and the rest in Vigor. Radagon's Scarseal is pretty much mandatory on all these builds and then I usually run Crimson Amber, Erdtree's Favor, or Arsenal depending on equip load.
Very thoughtful video. Also regarding the comment at 11:00 , y'all get out there and make some art, the powers that be and the bigwigs out there aren't doing it anymore. Make games, pickup a guitar or paintbrush, don't worry about whether it'll be sellable or even if other people like it, as long as you're true to yourself about it.
you say game has potential, but it is hard to belive that when they take outdated idea from battle royales that havent been popular in last 5 years and expect some crazy innovation here. when elden ring itself didn't gtoa single important update in last 2 years. so how can people possibly have hope for their next game? also i find it kinda lame that miyazaki appointed somebody else for this project. feels like just so he doesn't want to take any responsibility for it
@@GamingDualities it is almost like there are other games that people play besides Elden Ring. People can still be fans and not play the game 24/7. This is literally the case with most if not all games.
I don't think it will be complete slop, but I am skeptical that it will spark my interest. This may not be the seventh trumpet, but it's probably the fourth or fifth
Does it matter if it is or not? Nobody asked for this and things we actually asked From to deliver for actual Elden Ring went completely ignored. It's just disrespectful to the player base. TO tell us "No more Elden Ring" and then turn on the heel to deliver spin off game for all Reddit cry babies, that "can't enjoy coop because red man bad" while leaving actual Elden Ring in dust.
Miyazaki never said "no more Elden Ring". He said Shadow of Erdtree was the only DLC, that there are currently no plans for a sequel, and that he was open to the IP being expanded.
I think it borderlines slop. If they keep making games like this then..... If it's a once in every so often occurrence to celebrate the success of the franchise? That's a different story. It's no secret that Elden Ring is built off the framework of the original Demon's Souls that came out in 2009.
I get it, but I find it concerning that they're copy pasting bosses from their previous games into Nightreign. If they mixed them up a little (like how consort has some pontiff moves) and gave them a new look it'd be more okay with it but that just seems lazy. If I wanted to fight Centipede Demon, Freyja or Nameless King I'd play their respective games, not Nightreign.
I think legacy boss movesets are being revamped. The Centipedes Demon was mentioned as being able to split of parts of itself, while it previously only did that if you hit it in certain locations.
Considering that Santa Monica Studios released something very, very similar(roguelike extension with assets from previous games) for GoW Ragnarok as FREE DLC, and no one can accuse Sony of being terribly pro consumer, Nightreign is most certainly a cash grab. Whether it is slop remains to be seen.
We expected innovation and updates, actual replayability, multiplayer and social elements, larvar tears as a reward for Invasion and Arena so we could solve booth PvE and PVP problems... instead, we got this. miyazaki is just simply outdated. always has been. Elden ring is simply just overrated AI made game for console players only. not even keyboard sheme for pc/steam players etc
I also wish and hope for an update that gives us larval tears for invasion and arena rewards at least in a future update. I'll cope that there planning it for a future date as well as not being able to just turn the TT off when an invader is present so they can't grief players.
I absolutely understand where you're coming from on this. Elden Ring bummed me out to no end, as did the DLC and the Nightreign announcement. That said, I still think they're putting out quality work that is far above the mark of slop or any AI casual-only garbage. They've abandoned a lot of what I cherished about the series but it feels wrong to say they're stagnant or cashing in or whatever. Miyazaki has always been a maverick and likes to do things his own way. Nightreign being a completely different director makes a ton of sense, given how weird it would be coming from Miyazaki directly. And it's probably important to acknowledge that Nightreign isn't a follow-up in any serious way to Elden Ring. It's not a great sign of where the studio wants to branch out, but it's more of a non-answer to our longstanding issues rather than an outright dismissal. I do feel your pain. I really do.
I'm not gonna address anything else you said but wanting to play souls games with a keybord and mouse is genuine psycho shit You can use a controller on PC, some games were clearly designed for it including these ones
Hey, not sure if you're just messing around but I'd like to clarify to avoid confusion. While I am being melodramatic in the video talking about the decline of art, I promise it's not from a place of hate or anything like that. My videos are often casually critical of neoliberalism, but from a staunch leftist stance, not anything even remotely far right or nationalist. Hopefully that clears things up!
@emotionaljonxvx it's a good clarification. But this whole degenerate art thing is just extremely obsolete. Ofc it's fine if you don't know the context behind these arguments. But this is the first step towards dehumanizing certain groups in society. Blaming these groups is the perfect way to hide the root of the problem. Indeed the world is going to sh1t but the reasons are in the realm of economics/politics not culture.
@@ciro_costa I am aware of the context and had no intention to draw that comparison. With "slop" as the topic and it specifically focusing on art, I was referring to the slew of low-effort media pushed to fuel capitalistic ends, where creativity is absent and profit is the sole motivator. But I know there are many who would point to that degeneration or decline as the result of diversity or inclusivity in media, which is right-wing garbage nonsense. I probably could have been more clear and can see how it might be misinterpreted, so I'll try to be more specific in the future. Thanks for the comment!
It looks and smells like slop so it must be slop, i was hype for Elden ring, I was hype for shadow of the turdtree, I’m not hype whatsoever for nightreign. I’d rather play black ops 6
Calling night reign slop and then playing call of duty is crazy. Especially when they unironically have AI generated art as progression rewards in zombies 💀
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A thing nobody noticed in the trailer is that you can actualy hit enemies when they grab other players, so they are doing some ajustments and i imagine to the net code too.
No one noticed but the small few who watched vaatis video where he mentioned it
@@iveneverseensuchbehaviorin5367 I don't watch Vaati that much
@@iveneverseensuchbehaviorin5367I noticed it on my second watch of the trailer lol
no one noticed?
@@KyleTBelmont the videos i watched nobody noticed, they where hands full with nameless king showing up
I think its just supposed to be a fun filler game to just enjoy with friends while we wait for the next big project, like its essentially just a dlc that’s a new game mode
Why would they bother making another big project when slop will make them tons of money off name alone? They're never getting funding approval for anything that's not Elden Ring ever again 😂😂😂
@ well, they haven’t made any slop so far so
@@jollygrapefruit786what do you mean why would they make another big game if they can make money off this?? They have literally always made multiple games at a time and we know they still are because Miyazaki isn’t making this. There’s also no microtranscations in this so it has no possibility of making more money than Elden ring. You saying this is like saying deracine (a side game they made between games) is was the end for fromsoft.
So mindless slop?
So slop?
Thanks Jon! I don’t worry too much. They’re trying really hard to build an experience over a story. I think they’ve gone back and picked the best bosses to fight as a group and make huge efforts to make the night lords memorable, fun and difficult. Every weapon MUST have a purpose because you don’t know if you’ll find another during the day
PvP is dying. Fromsoft isn’t the only company shying away from it either. Pve with a multiplayer experience is the wave and by far the most popular way to play ER. I missed your vids Jon. Thank you for putting your takes out there. Pvpers need you. Much love🖤
While i am very disappointed that Night Reign doesnt seem have pvp despite being an ideal design space for it, i think it is incredibly discourteous to make any judgment claims of it until we have actually played. We know VERY little about the game so far.
I personally loved Armored Core: formula front and didn't consider it to be slop
Nightreign does not look like slop at all to me right now
In my opinion, it's honestly simply way too early to judge: if it's meant to be a cooperative experience, meaning that the core of the game will be the GAMEPLAY and not everything else (the world building lore, the scenery, the music, the story et cetera) unlike the main game, then I'm holding my judgement until I've actually played the game with both strangers and friends.
They can re-use assets from whatever game they want, as long as they change things like the original netcode to provide us players with a different, fresh, pleasant experience in the gameplay.
Sure, the aesthetic aspect has some undeniable weight, and I'm also a bit bummed out by the shocking nameless king bs, but my impression is that it's not meant to be the selling point of the spinoff, therefore it should not be our criteria to define whether the game is good or bad, or slop.
When people say they don't like Elden ring, it always blows my mind. Maybe I just like the idea of so many builds that I overlook problems. Also I like Dark Souls too a lot because there were a lot of weapons, a lot of spells and a lot of ways to create your character. I disliked bloodborne because I felt forced into a character which is the complete opposite of what I expect from an RPG.
Literally regardless of the conclusion of this video, I'll see you all on launch day. Idk why anyone is pretending otherwise
Fr, like they could add pvp or 2 player. Or not. Doesn't matter if I want them alot I'm still buying.
Hard disagree. They really shot themselves in the foot and I could be massively wrong, but I think they need to urgently announce at least a post-launch DLC or free update that adds a pvp mode otherwise this will not sell nearly as well as Elden Ring
Lmao no. I ain't wasting money on Fortnite Ring.
@Nobody32990 yea there's a closing circle. But the way the trailer shows it, it's just a rogue like with sekiro combat, its flashy and play like your are and elden ring boss. The best bosses they've put out are comming back, like a greatest hits thing. And out of the 7 bosses they show, 4 are unique to ekden ring nr. Also seamless co op. Its not a full game, but there never missed before. I see this as some great 40 doller fun before whatever is next
If the net code is still the same as it's always been I feel like a multiplayer exclusive game is a bad idea..
nobody said it needs to be only mutlyplayer game buddy. but at least basic multypalyer elements is what every good game has today. stop trying to justified outdated game design. there is a reason elden ring lost 90% of its playerbase
@@GamingDualities Oh.. I wasn't defending it!. I'm actually taking a shot at Fromsoft. Nightreign is going to be an exclusive multiplayer experience and net code is something Fromsoft has never been able to get right..
For their sake I hope this game uses dedicated servers and not the unreliable p2p method they have used in every game.
@@GamingDualitiesEven if it isn’t multiplayer only, if they don’t fix the net code it’s gonna suck playing with friends.
The marketing so far points to it being a multiplayer roguelike. You can play Castle Crashers solo, but the game is designed to be done with friends. Bosses like the Cerberus boss already look like they’d be a hassle to do Solo. It really depends on how they do balance between solo and team rounds.
@@cyberhawk9950they've already stated that enemies, bosses and loot will scale to player count, how that actually works will be questionable for now.
But yea souls multiplayer connection has always sucked.
@@GamingDualities bro what are u even talking about lmao single player is "outdated" and elden ring lost "90%" of its player base are u even a gamer? we gotta gatekeep bc of ppl like u
At least we know what to expect this time. They're moving in the right direction by improving the multiplayer experience.
Also in the wrong direction by axing PvP entirely
Keep the slop coming Slopzaki 😍
But for real though, yes, they've earned the benefit of the doubt. Elden Ring felt a bit outdated in many aspects, but it's still a great game. We'll have to wait and see, but I'm genuinely not impressed with what I've see up to now.
Also Merry Christmas and a happy new year, Jon!
Nightreign looks genuinely like a game that, if not for FromSoftware, I would never play. I didn't even care about Sekiro and I'm broadly indifferent to roguelikes. No character creation or PVP means I'll have painfully little to engage with on top of everything else. I just see a lot of folks saying slop when I think they mean unimpressive/disappointing/boring/etc. The distinction is probably not important to most but I'd hate to disparage From for branching out just because it's not a direction I wanted. If they made a Battle Royale with the same assets, team, and quality, I'd be putting people through walls to get in early.
And a Merry Christmas / Happy New Year to you, too!
Imagine pretending to be a female game character online
It's them dipping their toes into new genres, if you pay attention you'll see that quite a lot of the recent releases have been them trying out new genres.
Interesting video. I like roguelikes so I'm excited for it. The best take I've seen is someone describing it as your favorite band making an EP. It's not the new album, just a chance for the band to experiment and try a few things out.
There is no such thing as a game (or any product really) made by no-one and for no-one tbh. There is always a creator and a target audience. The creator may have really specific and niche interests or there can be many of them, in a "too many cooks" scenario. I'd say the worst thing you can experience nowadays in media are products made to appeal to as many people as possible, which will always and inevitably feel lacklustre to the majority of consumers. With that being said, Merry Christmas
It is a bit non-literal but I really just meant that there are projects where no one involved actually took any specific direction on what to do with them. Something like when a script has been kicking around for years, the director changes up once or twice, and the roles are recast, then no one is actually there to do any serious rewriting or revision and the project comes out representing none of the creative perspectives of anyone involved. Everyone was just following someone else's cues but no one actually had any idea what they were trying to make. Of course people still made it, but the "no one" would be the lack of a unified vision or direction.
and Merry Christmas to you, as well!
I would actually like to see the pursuer be a boss invader, if its move set got sped up and hit boxes fixed i could see it being way stronger than crucible knights/tree sentinels and a much better checklist for newer souls players.
I would like to wait until the game actually comes out before saying it's slop lol
It’s just another way to divide the already spread thin player base
My thoughts on Night Reign are that its going to play fine. Reused assets are meh, especially entire bosses and characters. Its going to be mediocre. Not terrible tho.
Its just extremely insulting to have the Elden Ring name on it because it is NOT Elden Ring. It is something entirely different. It does not deserve the name Elden Ring, it shouldve just been called Night Reign. Completely different mechanics, different exploration, different characters, lack of character customization, lack of personal build diversity, different gameplay all around. This is its own game for a reason. So it should have been named as such instead of using the Elden Ring IP for a blatant cash grab. They know casuals will eat it up.
I'm glad Ive gotten a thorough explanation about the differences between shit and slop
2025 is the year of Wilds though, so I'm not exactly concerned with the PvP+character bereft Naruto-running allstars Souls game being slop. Miyazaki already told us Sekiro combat is being advanced in(to) another title, and before that we already knew he wants to experiment with elements that didn't quite fit the so-far Souls formula, so this means the next proper From game drops 2026 at the absolute earliest and will represent another advancement for From and the industry both, as it should.
Meanwhile, Nightreign can be more than a meme if it wants to, sure. I'll play it, whatever.
I hate how people are already saying whether it is or is not slop. Wait for the game to release.
I think if you own a PC, it's kinda hard to get excited about this since you can just mod the game however you want but for someone whos only ever had a console (me and plenty others) it kinda immediately jumps out as "hell yeah finally something a little different" idk that's just how I look at it at least
This isn't another elden ring, it's a roguelike and is very different.
@@sunshineandrei2569 so it's inferior to actual ER.
@Nobody32990 yes... Because they spent 6 years making elden ring and it's their biggest project ever
Pyrocynical ahh title. You just really had to talk to us I guess
The games not even out yet and you guys are already judging it💀💀😂🤣
Because it's being developed at the cost of Elden Ring's polish and MAYBE one more expansion. Things people actually asked From for.
On top of Miyazaki's bs announcement about "no more Elden Ring content".
I find it crazy how people can judge a game so confidently without even having played it yet
Yeah we literally have a single gameplay trailer.
Well we know one thing for sure, it was conceived as a cash grab to capitalize on ERs success. That alone is enough to make the assumption that it won't be the highest of quality if you base it off what we have seen in the past industry wide. I understand the worry. I don't think it will be a run of the mill cash grab game, but that would make it the exception industry wide.
@@nunchuksteev9811 That was both Dark souls 2 and 3.
Bandai "Hey Dark souls 1 was a hit, let's make the next two games sequels to it."
Miyazaki "Fuck."
Idk John what I’m looking at on my screen where you are pvping in ER looks like slop
You made me feel a little better thanks
We literally only have one minor gameplay trailer, and none of it looked bad.
Either gamers are too entitled, or yall trolling.
Or people see the writing on the wall and have actual expectations towards an exceptional game studio (in the current landscape at least).
@Nobody32990 what ARE their expectations?
i remember hearing something about how fromsoft wanted elden ring to be the next big thing they focus on, something they wanted to support and expand for years, so i wholly expected them to do stuff like this
also i feel that "making my own ttrpg" bit, i've just made one myself and i'm gonna playtest it with friends soon, big respect for game design
I just don´t care all that much for a primarily multiplayer focused experience and I think a lot of other FromSoft enjoyers feel the same.
That said, I think it´s obvious that the B team at FromSoft is working on this while the A team is doing something actually worthwhile. (like Bloodborne 2)
Bloodborne 2 isnt coming man, needs Miyazaki.
I honestly look forward to it since based on the trailer and what I have read it is in my alley. It looks like a fresh and interesting and honestly pretty fun. Now I will be caustious about it but I am looking forward to it.
No
That is a title. That is such a title. Like, wow, that is just, really, letters used in a specific combination to create a title for a video on UA-cam.
I'm loving all these limgrave characters. How many have you got now?
I've remade a few so I have two active at the moment. Thinking of making a faith build that can use every faith weapon & incantation in Limgrave but it'd be both sort of high level and also very low HP. Still might try it just for fun.
@emotionaljonxvx do you have the builds anywhere, or perhaps could you make a video on them?
@@aesthetiquette3716 I usually plan builds using EIP gaming but idk how searchable those are. I should make build videos but in the immediate, the build on-screen is a starting Astrologer level 25 +3/+1 with 23 Int and the rest in Vigor. Radagon's Scarseal is pretty much mandatory on all these builds and then I usually run Crimson Amber, Erdtree's Favor, or Arsenal depending on equip load.
Love from mexico 🇩🇰
absolutely
I criticize the use of the term roguelike. This is more of an alternative gamplay mechanic or mode.
Very thoughtful video. Also regarding the comment at 11:00 , y'all get out there and make some art, the powers that be and the bigwigs out there aren't doing it anymore. Make games, pickup a guitar or paintbrush, don't worry about whether it'll be sellable or even if other people like it, as long as you're true to yourself about it.
Fromsoft has not given any reason to distrust them so ill give it a chance
ER's multiplayer quality and design would be one good reason.
@Nobody32990 Co op has been fine for me and I never cared about pvp so no reason to distrust them still
I am hyped for muti play ▶️ 🙌
Short answer yes, that shit gonna be ass
Proof? You have one gameplay trailer
@ ok, shits still gonna be ass
@sentinellord5024 fake fans these days, hope u leave and never return :)
you say game has potential, but it is hard to belive that when they take outdated idea from battle royales that havent been popular in last 5 years and expect some crazy innovation here. when elden ring itself didn't gtoa single important update in last 2 years. so how can people possibly have hope for their next game? also i find it kinda lame that miyazaki appointed somebody else for this project. feels like just so he doesn't want to take any responsibility for it
Or maybe, it‘s so he can focus on a whole new game?
@@endofen9107 i mean elden ring lost 90% of its playerbase
@@GamingDualities source: I made it tf up
@@Destiny_sm from 1 million players to 20k. do the math
@@GamingDualities it is almost like there are other games that people play besides Elden Ring. People can still be fans and not play the game 24/7. This is literally the case with most if not all games.
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I don't think it will be complete slop, but I am skeptical that it will spark my interest. This may not be the seventh trumpet, but it's probably the fourth or fifth
Does it matter if it is or not? Nobody asked for this and things we actually asked From to deliver for actual Elden Ring went completely ignored.
It's just disrespectful to the player base. TO tell us "No more Elden Ring" and then turn on the heel to deliver spin off game for all Reddit cry babies, that "can't enjoy coop because red man bad" while leaving actual Elden Ring in dust.
Miyazaki never said "no more Elden Ring". He said Shadow of Erdtree was the only DLC, that there are currently no plans for a sequel, and that he was open to the IP being expanded.
@@carlschrappen9712 that's pretty much what I said, thanks for reinforcing that.
No further content for the actual Elden Ring.
Negative Nancy but play anyway just have fun bro why so emo? If a perfect game do it yourself like thanos "fine I do it myself"
I think it borderlines slop.
If they keep making games like this then.....
If it's a once in every so often occurrence to celebrate the success of the franchise? That's a different story.
It's no secret that Elden Ring is built off the framework of the original Demon's Souls that came out in 2009.
yes yes it is
I get it, but I find it concerning that they're copy pasting bosses from their previous games into Nightreign. If they mixed them up a little (like how consort has some pontiff moves) and gave them a new look it'd be more okay with it but that just seems lazy. If I wanted to fight Centipede Demon, Freyja or Nameless King I'd play their respective games, not Nightreign.
It's a side project, go in expecting something fun to do with the boys and you'll have fun, don't go wanting elden ring 2.
I think legacy boss movesets are being revamped. The Centipedes Demon was mentioned as being able to split of parts of itself, while it previously only did that if you hit it in certain locations.
Considering that Santa Monica Studios released something very, very similar(roguelike extension with assets from previous games) for GoW Ragnarok as FREE DLC, and no one can accuse Sony of being terribly pro consumer, Nightreign is most certainly a cash grab. Whether it is slop remains to be seen.
We expected innovation and updates, actual replayability, multiplayer and social elements, larvar tears as a reward for Invasion and Arena so we could solve booth PvE and PVP problems... instead, we got this. miyazaki is just simply outdated. always has been. Elden ring is simply just overrated AI made game for console players only. not even keyboard sheme for pc/steam players etc
I also wish and hope for an update that gives us larval tears for invasion and arena rewards at least in a future update. I'll cope that there planning it for a future date as well as not being able to just turn the TT off when an invader is present so they can't grief players.
I absolutely understand where you're coming from on this. Elden Ring bummed me out to no end, as did the DLC and the Nightreign announcement. That said, I still think they're putting out quality work that is far above the mark of slop or any AI casual-only garbage. They've abandoned a lot of what I cherished about the series but it feels wrong to say they're stagnant or cashing in or whatever.
Miyazaki has always been a maverick and likes to do things his own way. Nightreign being a completely different director makes a ton of sense, given how weird it would be coming from Miyazaki directly.
And it's probably important to acknowledge that Nightreign isn't a follow-up in any serious way to Elden Ring. It's not a great sign of where the studio wants to branch out, but it's more of a non-answer to our longstanding issues rather than an outright dismissal.
I do feel your pain. I really do.
@@emotionaljonxvxyou understand where this whiner who is clearly over exaggerating comes from?
Bro what?
I'm not gonna address anything else you said but wanting to play souls games with a keybord and mouse is genuine psycho shit
You can use a controller on PC, some games were clearly designed for it including these ones
It's made by FROM SOFTWARE? Don't care what it is, take my money
And here we have a living embodiment of "you are part of the problem".
Video was going fine until you went full n4zi at the end.
Hey, not sure if you're just messing around but I'd like to clarify to avoid confusion. While I am being melodramatic in the video talking about the decline of art, I promise it's not from a place of hate or anything like that. My videos are often casually critical of neoliberalism, but from a staunch leftist stance, not anything even remotely far right or nationalist.
Hopefully that clears things up!
@emotionaljonxvx it's a good clarification.
But this whole degenerate art thing is just extremely obsolete.
Ofc it's fine if you don't know the context behind these arguments.
But this is the first step towards dehumanizing certain groups in society. Blaming these groups is the perfect way to hide the root of the problem.
Indeed the world is going to sh1t but the reasons are in the realm of economics/politics not culture.
@@ciro_costa I am aware of the context and had no intention to draw that comparison. With "slop" as the topic and it specifically focusing on art, I was referring to the slew of low-effort media pushed to fuel capitalistic ends, where creativity is absent and profit is the sole motivator.
But I know there are many who would point to that degeneration or decline as the result of diversity or inclusivity in media, which is right-wing garbage nonsense.
I probably could have been more clear and can see how it might be misinterpreted, so I'll try to be more specific in the future. Thanks for the comment!
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It looks and smells like slop so it must be slop, i was hype for Elden ring, I was hype for shadow of the turdtree, I’m not hype whatsoever for nightreign. I’d rather play black ops 6
Calling night reign slop and then playing call of duty is crazy. Especially when they unironically have AI generated art as progression rewards in zombies 💀
@@JohnMatragrano at least CoD is honest about it being ai slop
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