Defeater-White Oak Doors

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  • Опубліковано 29 гру 2024

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  • @chey6597
    @chey6597 3 роки тому +38

    10 years later and this album still gives me goosebumps. There never be a band who creates such a emotion filled, suspenseful and moving scene..story. defeater is unmatched

    • @marwinm121
      @marwinm121 Рік тому

      The Chariot?

    • @BassLux
      @BassLux Рік тому +1

      La Dispute up there too, at least for me

  • @daltonforrest
    @daltonforrest 9 років тому +104

    I love the sound of the drums signifying the train getting closer and the song cutting off being the brother getting hit by the train. Such a cool song. Never heard music being used to tell a story in such a way.

    • @pietzsche
      @pietzsche 9 років тому +1

      Dalton Forrest Gaming There's a similar thing in the song 'suicide' by Barclay James Harvest, very different genre but worth a listen.

    • @melissacreasy5796
      @melissacreasy5796 9 років тому +1

      The build up to this song is "forgiver forgetter"just in case you didn't know and were interested

    • @rdaveylusk
      @rdaveylusk 9 років тому +14

      The build up to this song is the discography ahhahah

    • @daltonforrest
      @daltonforrest 9 років тому +1

      Melissa Creasy
      Oh yeah. I know. :) This was posted when I was first discovering this band but I now own their full discography on vinyl and I've pre-ordered their upcoming album so I'm quite familiar.

    • @nickgreenhow5513
      @nickgreenhow5513 8 років тому +8

      La Dispute has some great storytelling.

  • @mikeybowman8932
    @mikeybowman8932 5 років тому +21

    LYRICS:
    Lost in your own head
    But then a knock at the door
    Put down that drink
    Your steps creaking the floor
    Go and get the gun
    Distract yourself from death
    Back against the door
    Your hands are starting to sweat
    Slowly cock the gun
    Slowly move to the side
    Slowly turn the handle
    Slowly open it wide
    Catch a glimpse of his face
    Your heart sinks in your chest
    Your hands start to shake
    Because you know it’s him
    Just the coward and you
    Standing silent, dead air
    So you pull him inside
    Into your father’s chair
    “Your mother is dead all thanks to you
    Her addiction got worse after you left, you damned fool
    What you did to our father, I promised you'd pay up
    I’m going to take your life, it don't feel like enough”
    Cold steel to his head, walk him to his death
    Walk him down past the white oak doors
    Walk him out past the boardwalk, your old shipyard
    Pistol in his side, make him pay
    On the outskirts of town, pass the quarry now
    Walk him down to those cold steel tracks
    You stumble drunk with the gun in his back
    “Now get down on your knees on the tracks where you shamed me
    But this time, the dodge ain’t going to end so pretty
    Either a bullet or that train steaming just ahead
    Is going to end your days, you coward little kid”
    You sit and you stir
    While he waits for his death
    You’ll never forgive him
    And you never did forget
    He'll never see the sun again
    Make him pay off his debt
    Stand on those tracks, cold steel under feet
    Barrel to his temple “Your addict mother, you will soon re-meet”
    Whisper in his ear, feel his whole body shake
    In an instant he’s got your arm, got your gun, held by his weight
    You feel the cold steel above and below
    Your stomach ties in knots as the train whistle blows
    Feel the warm of the blood where the barrel digs in
    From your cheek to your mouth, you taste the sweat and the tin
    You don’t cry, you don’t beg
    You’ve been waiting for this
    For the coward, or for death
    Just to see your wife again
    That train is so close, so loud and so clear
    Your hands stop shaking and it’s all that you hear
    "Just like father, you took him
    If this is how it’s going to be
    I’d rather die… at the hands… of my own… fami-”

  • @BabvBlues
    @BabvBlues 5 років тому +22

    this is a classic. favourite song hands down. been my favourite for years

  • @throughtheearthscore3999
    @throughtheearthscore3999 2 роки тому +5

    The amount of tension and anxiety I still feel when I hear “Now get down on your knees…” is actually unbelievable. No other song has ever gripped me like this. Defeater forever. ❤️

  • @Atyrius
    @Atyrius 7 років тому +15

    This song after all these years still gives me chills.

  • @jacksonjohnson2116
    @jacksonjohnson2116 9 років тому +42

    For those wondering if the song is supposed to cut off at the end, indeed it is. Symbolizes the train hitting the brother, aka, the end of the narrative.

    • @Jerenemy
      @Jerenemy 3 роки тому +3

      I rather die
      At the hand
      Of my own
      Fam...

    • @SchlagerFreund
      @SchlagerFreund 3 роки тому +2

      The saddest thing is that we know that "the narrative" did not end at all. And in some sense it never will.

    • @ReprogrammedToHate
      @ReprogrammedToHate Рік тому

      ​@@SchlagerFreundi don't think it's sad, all the opposite, it's intriguing, and leaves you with a full desire to know more.

  • @MrGuyGlover
    @MrGuyGlover 12 років тому +1

    i was driving home late one night, pitch black out on the road, this song came on and no exaggeration i went into a trance where the music disapeared and it started playing out like a movie inside my head, i was so anamored by the words this guy was singing to me, when it ended i snapped back into reality, to be honest, best musical moment of my life, i will forever love this band

  • @wyattkollar9578
    @wyattkollar9578 11 років тому +5

    not many songs have impacted me as much as this one. first time i heard it i sat for about 30 minutes after blank faced with goosebumps just thinking about it. that ending hits you so damn hard. easily one of the best hardcore bands out there today.

  • @theroflbandito
    @theroflbandito 13 років тому +4

    Thank you defeater for concluding, travels, and incorporating lost ground. This is by far the best album i have ever heard in my life. My dad is 72 and he has heard everything and agrees that this is by far the best album he has ever heard... A 72 year old man knows Empty days & Sleepless Nights is the best album he has ever heard...

  • @heshasfever
    @heshasfever 11 років тому +7

    i love how the drums represent the train, its amazing.

  • @630171official
    @630171official Рік тому +2

    Still the best ending an album has ever had. if this song is you're first time encountering defeater and you're reading this, stop and listen to the whole album with lyrics!

  • @ant3816
    @ant3816 8 років тому +6

    the feels I get everytime I hear this song.. damn man.. this whole album, no this band as a whole. just so much raw emotion in the music and the vocals. It's just done so right. hands down one of my top 5 favorites of all time

  • @SceneToSk8
    @SceneToSk8 10 років тому +138

    My music class required us to bring in a song we liked and write about its and stuff. OUr prof. had to play each song (small class). They got to this song and well, the reactions were odd. The prof. skipped the whole song basically. Like the musi c had no meaning.
    I understand they aren't used to the vocals, but if they'd just take the time to listen to the fucking lyrics and the beautiful story the music itsself paints, theyd appreciate it so much more. I had to talk about the song, and fools took me as some wierd emo kid for enjoying my hardcore. Fuck ignorance.

    • @rockdunaway9812
      @rockdunaway9812 10 років тому +14

      Marine for 12 years. Good shit! My friend which was a hardcore partier and ended up valedictorian is the only one that knows this shit! I've introduced this shit while in Okinawa. Be YOU and be HARD! Fuck your HS teachers and fellow students! You can do better than them they just hate life! Most likely anyways! Much respect to them though!

    • @TheKemmist
      @TheKemmist 10 років тому +3

      Same thing happened in my English class in high school! I used Cowardice as the song to play in class and after about 2 minutes the teacher said "I think we've had enough of this." and made me turn it off. I even gave enough the lyrics so they could follow along, but everyone pleaded ignorance saying they couldn't follow the lyrics if they can't understand the vocalist. I was pretty pissed, but nothing I could do.

    • @SceneToSk8
      @SceneToSk8 9 років тому +3

      TheKemmist I feel like if maybe they had the lyrics, they would appreciated it more. But im college and my room is full of more mature people, and a professor who has a knack for music he's never heard before. The thign that threw them off is that they oculdnt understand the screaming, which basically made it sound like awesome instrumental with gibberish to them. thats what my professor said about this song, he loved the instrumentals. Anyway, its not my loss, just thought i'd show some people a different kind of music than what they probably listen to. I tried :)

    • @cannabisPREVENTION
      @cannabisPREVENTION 9 років тому +15

      Well there's your problem kid, normies will never understand. No use trying bro, we don't want them anyway.

    • @killinitsosick
      @killinitsosick 9 років тому +1

      Bring a sheet with lyrics for everyone next time ;)

  • @SabrinaSweatshirt
    @SabrinaSweatshirt 12 років тому +5

    i love how they make it sound as if the train is actually coming closer to you in the song, amazing imagery it provides there.

  • @OldManSlippery
    @OldManSlippery 13 років тому +4

    it is so important to read the lyrics for this album. This album and travels both tell the same story, about two brothers and their corrupt family. this album is told from the elder brothers point of view, and travels is told from the younger brothers point of view. The story is very grim and depressing, and the ending always sends chills down my spine. DEFEATER are so unique compared to any other hardcore band, in the way they write their lyrics and they way they perform acoustically as well.

  • @theroflbandito
    @theroflbandito 13 років тому +2

    I hope everyone who listened to travels, lost ground, and this album put the whole story together.. Because its mind blowing

  • @kikif11
    @kikif11 8 років тому +12

    This is one of the best songs I've ever heard, with King Park from La Dispute and Smoke em' if you got em' from Parkway Drive
    Metal/hardcore music is life \m/

  • @iLikeToShank
    @iLikeToShank 11 років тому +3

    Sweet, I love listening to Van Gogh's paintings!

  • @diehardpunk19
    @diehardpunk19 11 років тому +1

    I didn't realize the end of this song he gets hit by the train and the song ends. I've read the lyrics from the album beginning to end and my mind is seriously blown. Only a few bands have made me feel like this. LA dispute, armor for sleep, your best friend, and now defeater. Love them. Only bands I'd ever consider getting a tattoo for.

  • @beretcarmichael
    @beretcarmichael 13 років тому +1

    You can hear the anger in his voice
    and the story this song tells is incredible.

  • @plaguedyouth
    @plaguedyouth 13 років тому +1

    This may be music...but its more than that...its art, passion, fury.....unbelievable swirling emotions...even if its not a true story...brings me back to the amazing story albums by armor for sleep and boys night out...truly outrageous

  • @djshdq
    @djshdq 3 роки тому +2

    I just heard this song yesterday, I thought my spotify was broken because the song stopped in minutes 5:49 ???

  • @apatheistt
    @apatheistt 9 років тому +7

    My favorite song from Defeater.

  • @MrGuyGlover
    @MrGuyGlover 12 років тому +1

    yea man it was one of those awesome times with music, i wasnt high or drunk, just me, the road and defeater

  • @p0ny_00
    @p0ny_00 2 місяці тому +1

    I love this

  • @vikingwizardeyes2121
    @vikingwizardeyes2121 13 років тому +1

    Oh my God. The ending is so terrifying and so powerful. I feel like it rivals "Cowardice". I'm so glad this is a continuation of Travels. That album is so powerful. The fact that they make references to that album is haunting. I'm going to pick this album up ASAP.

  • @philliperocks546
    @philliperocks546 10 років тому +33

    I realized that when the song cuts out it's the brothers being hit by the train. Great story

    • @sarahwhitmore4756
      @sarahwhitmore4756 6 років тому +1

      Nathaniel O its only the older brother getting hit
      The younger brother jumps from the top of a church later on

  • @KThompson1016
    @KThompson1016 13 років тому

    Defeater is the best thing that has ever happened to me

  • @jackganleybrah
    @jackganleybrah 12 років тому

    I have such an amazing reaction to this. I do like hardcore music, but normally I would hate this type of "screaming." But as I was on the bus ride to the airport home from the championships I had in Ohio for drumline, I was listening to this album and I was just watching everyone singing and having fun, and it made me so happy. Pure ecstasy at that very moment. Great band, so glad I was told of the,.

  • @MsLily0013
    @MsLily0013 11 років тому +2

    UGH I LOVE THIS I LOVE THE ENDING i was confused at first but then i saw the meaning in the top comment and it just makes it so perfect. fucking love this band new favorite.

  • @DeadlyAssassin94
    @DeadlyAssassin94 11 років тому

    Defeater, La Dispute , touche amore, and pianos become the teeth, best bands ever.

  • @MrTomboi93
    @MrTomboi93 12 років тому +1

    pure chills.

  • @tiemme11
    @tiemme11 10 років тому +1

    Fantastic song!!!

  • @oldpinheadlarry
    @oldpinheadlarry 12 років тому

    If Defeater, La Dispute and Close Your Eyes went on tour together...I wouldn't miss it for the world.

  • @prometheuslives96
    @prometheuslives96 12 років тому

    Goosebumps, every time.

  • @xcorekevin
    @xcorekevin 13 років тому +2

    a music video for this would be sooooo epic

  • @morgancunningham4701
    @morgancunningham4701 12 років тому

    Completly and utterly amazing...

  • @Skip2MeLou1
    @Skip2MeLou1 11 років тому

    You took the words right out of my mouth.

  • @beddy2k8
    @beddy2k8 11 років тому

    I'd love to hear the rest of the song!
    Although it does create such intensity when it cuts out (when the train hits them)
    Pure beauty and poetry make this band!

    • @Leon390
      @Leon390 4 роки тому

      It's supposed to cut off. Represents the brothers getting hot by the train. Hence the drumbeat sounding like a locomotive.

  • @01inertia
    @01inertia 11 років тому +2

    "One of the best"

  • @TriddyIPPY
    @TriddyIPPY 2 роки тому

    Empty glass and this song has a similar drum line that I just love

  • @CarlosCastillo-qm8wo
    @CarlosCastillo-qm8wo 9 років тому +2

    This is an amazing song

  • @carolinaluv2133
    @carolinaluv2133 11 років тому +1

    Touché Amoré

  • @maxxkarales64
    @maxxkarales64 Рік тому +1

    I thought that my spotify was broken only to finally realize that the hard cut off was the narrator dying. fucking crazy

  • @lorddagrigoth788
    @lorddagrigoth788 12 років тому

    wow... just wow.. I'm like 90% sure I'm gonna buy this album tonight

  • @ohdubya14
    @ohdubya14 13 років тому

    chills.

  • @jessicavlogger
    @jessicavlogger 6 років тому +2

    this song really hits hard, like a jet plane coming at you at the speed of sound.

  • @xXxTheScarletOpalxXx
    @xXxTheScarletOpalxXx 11 років тому +1

    This and La Dispute are my life.

  • @DownRDpromotions
    @DownRDpromotions 12 років тому

    That really explained the song to me. Thank you

  • @RaluVandalls
    @RaluVandalls 12 років тому

    Cualquier palabra me sabe a poco para describir este magnifico grupo.

  • @Dogmitry-Puplushka
    @Dogmitry-Puplushka 8 років тому +2

    can someone tell me if it is supposed to cut off at 5:49?? i cant find a "complete" version anywhere!

    • @brammeke569
      @brammeke569 8 років тому +10

      Yeh it's supposed to resemble his voice being cut off. Y' know, by him being hit in the face by the train and stuff.

    • @Dogmitry-Puplushka
      @Dogmitry-Puplushka 8 років тому

      duuuuude fuuuuuck
      it is still an oddly sudden cut-off imo
      appreciate tho.

  • @Libbybaby
    @Libbybaby 13 років тому

    totally speechless, this is truly amazing and beautiful

  • @tdagarim10
    @tdagarim10 12 років тому +1

    if only you listened to their first album travels and knew who the guys brother was that killed him in this song and his whole story, this album would be (sorry for my vocabulary) fucking amazing. also in their EP Lost Grounds, the character meets the brother in Travels. such a good band with great writing techniques. my four favorite bands will always the defeater, ruiner, trapped under ice and the early november (yes i know they arent "hardcore" but the rooms to cold is perfect)

  • @unfairy333
    @unfairy333 9 років тому +10

    that endi

  • @opmike343
    @opmike343 9 років тому +6

    This is pretty intense.

  • @ashleighsavannah5918
    @ashleighsavannah5918 12 років тому +1

    amazing song, but still get just as shook up every time i hear it

  • @Saitama-_-333
    @Saitama-_-333 11 років тому +5

    Seriously that abrupt end is so frustrating and stressful like they build you up and then-

    • @Leon390
      @Leon390 4 роки тому +1

      It's supposed to cut off. Represents the brothers getting hot by the train. Hence the drumbeat sounding like a locomotive.

  • @emmanelson2719
    @emmanelson2719 5 років тому +1

    Still my favorite album everrr

  • @greenproperties7895
    @greenproperties7895 3 роки тому

    I always thought that it would have been awesome if you could hear more clear the sound of the train at the end. Like the music will stop and all we can hear is the train passing by for 20 seconds. Imagine that....

  • @alexbrned
    @alexbrned 11 років тому +1

    this is their best song by far

  • @jake98redskins
    @jake98redskins 12 років тому

    Who can not like this song? I mean really this song is amazing.

  • @groundgame-d8e
    @groundgame-d8e 12 років тому

    Read the lyrics, it's a concept album. The build up to the cutoff has a man holding his brother down on the railway tracks at gunpoint waiting for a train to come to kill him but the brother overpowers him and they're both held down as the train comes closer and the cutoff is the point where the train hits and kills them both.

  • @AlarminglyEnchanted
    @AlarminglyEnchanted 12 років тому +1

    Fucking amazing. I wish theyd make a play out of these albums or something

  • @DanceCandiceDance
    @DanceCandiceDance 13 років тому

    This song just makes everything better you know?

  • @Adrianrollins801
    @Adrianrollins801 13 років тому

    Powerful song, powerful record.

  • @eguxzman836
    @eguxzman836 10 років тому

    love it

  • @MrScreech62
    @MrScreech62 12 років тому

    I came here to listen to an awesome band, and i just...did...

  • @MrGuyGlover
    @MrGuyGlover 12 років тому

    and thats why i love music

  • @Shoujiie
    @Shoujiie 11 років тому

    great song, thx for doing this :)
    greets from germany

  • @Koukigreen
    @Koukigreen 12 років тому

    Oh no for sure man. Makes sense. That mssg was a reply to your comment but it was for other people reading not directed at you. I understand what you are doing. thumbs up to you.

  • @Buddyism1
    @Buddyism1 12 років тому

    If you haven't cried while listening to Defeater you have no soul.

  • @Behemoth29
    @Behemoth29 13 років тому

    @Maharoba judging by the lyrics... the older brother was held down onto the tracks by the younger brother, who held the gun to his head. "If this is how its going to be, then I would rather die at the hands of my own family." Its like he realised he would either die from the train or from his brother, and he prefered his brother... To me, that suggests that the younger brother shot him, which also explains the sudden ending. Dont understand the 10 minutes silence though...

  • @Shaymojack
    @Shaymojack 12 років тому

    I haven't heard a version that's not cut off, so it's probably part of the story the song is telling. I just came to check to make sure I didn't get a weird download due to the cutoff haha

  • @willjohn28
    @willjohn28 12 років тому

    and touche amore... omg.

  • @chaptereighteen
    @chaptereighteen 11 років тому

    Art.

  • @JakeConwayOmnitechbusiness
    @JakeConwayOmnitechbusiness 11 років тому +1

    This takes someone who gets this style of music writing... I personally do not get it, but to each their own.

  • @xcorekevin
    @xcorekevin 14 років тому

    this guy needs to be an author, seriously

  • @alissaanne7774
    @alissaanne7774 12 років тому +1

    YES. Not a bad version, if anything, it's better. It's a conceptual album. It tells a story, take a closer listen. It cuts off because the train eventually reaches them. Listen to the lyrics, that rhythm, raw emotional screams, & layering. INTENSE.

  • @FR2darkflames
    @FR2darkflames 12 років тому

    the drums are just.. woah

  • @BillyxRansom
    @BillyxRansom 12 років тому

    .....oh wow

  • @Mariooo57
    @Mariooo57 11 років тому

    Just realized how incredible this album, it only took me two years to get it... i still can't get into the acoustic tracks though. They don't grab me like "Prophet In Plain Clothes" did years ago

  • @TheDeepSeaCreature
    @TheDeepSeaCreature 12 років тому

    Its actually from their older albums, continuing the story from the song forgiver and forgetter. check it out, it makes sense if you compare the lyrics.
    Fucking love this band.

  • @liamjamestaylor
    @liamjamestaylor 13 років тому

    @GuitarHeaven999 The whole song is supposed to sound like that, as in gradually getting louder ie, train getting closer

  • @d6ath6ang6l
    @d6ath6ang6l 5 років тому

    Perfection. The real o

  • @40rods
    @40rods 13 років тому

    @choppingaway
    thanks for the clarification.

  • @Wackenopenairfan
    @Wackenopenairfan 11 років тому

    my thought!

  • @kadaverf
    @kadaverf 12 років тому

    me, as a fan of almost any kind of music., find that hardcore (punk) comes at the same line as classical music. they are both genres where ALL emotions can be found. and esecialle Defeater does this.

  • @ritualcompleter
    @ritualcompleter 13 років тому

    That build up holy fuck, so intense.

  • @lunardestruction
    @lunardestruction 6 років тому

    That moment when you attempt something completely absurd and you pull it off perfectly.

  • @xMOSHLEMx
    @xMOSHLEMx 12 років тому +1

    doesn't matter, it's brutal! :)

  • @mumuz34
    @mumuz34 13 років тому

    @SlowlyVVeRot : just thought the same thing...I really don't understand the outro of the song, but all in all the rest is so good...

  • @Gfalcon787
    @Gfalcon787 6 років тому

    Lost in your own head
    But then a knock at the door
    Put down that drink
    Your steps creaking the floor
    Go and get the gun
    Distract yourself from death
    Back against the door
    Your hands are starting to sweat
    Slowly cock the gun
    Slowly move to the side
    Slowly turn the handle
    Slowly open it wide
    Catch a glimpse of his face
    Your heart sinks in your chest
    Your hands start to shake
    Because you know it’s him
    Just the coward and you
    Standing silent, dead air
    So you pull him inside
    Into your father’s chair
    “Your mother is dead
    All thanks to you
    Her addiction got worse
    After you left, you damned fool
    What you did to our father
    I promised you’d pay up
    I’m going to take your life
    It don’t feel like enough”
    Cold steel to his head
    Walk him to his death
    Walk him down past the white oak doors
    Walk him out past the boardwalk, your old shipyard
    Pistol in his side, make him pay
    On the outskirts of town, pass the quarry now
    Walk him down to those cold steel tracks
    You stumble drunk with the gun in his back
    “Now get down on your knees
    On the tracks where you shamed me
    But this time, the dodge ain’t going to end so pretty
    Either a bullet or that train
    Steaming just ahead
    Is going to end your days
    You coward little kid”
    You sit and you stir
    While he waits for his death
    You’ll never forgive him
    And you never did forget
    He’ll never see the sun again
    Make him pay off his debt
    Stand on those tracks, cold steel under feet
    Barrel to his temple “Your addict mother, you will soon re-meet”
    Whisper in his ear, feel his whole body shake
    In an instant he’s got your arm, got your gun, held by his weight
    You feel the cold steel above and below
    Your stomach tie in knots as the train whistle blows
    Feel the warm of the blood where the barrel digs in
    From your cheek to your mouth, you taste the sweat and the tin
    You don’t cry, you don’t beg
    You’ve been waiting for this
    For the coward, or for death
    Just to see your wife again
    That train is so close, so loud and so clear
    Your hands stop shaking and it’s all that you hear
    Just like father
    “You took him
    If this is how it’s going to be
    I’d rather die… at the hands of… my own… fami-"

  • @julesx4
    @julesx4 11 років тому

    touche amore

  • @frostyma92
    @frostyma92 13 років тому

    @xnewfuryx The two brothers hate each other because as the first cd tells it, the younger brother ran away from home after he killed his father. He left and ran away from his problems instead of staying there and helping his mother who was dealing with severe drug addiction. Just listen to the song Debts on Travels, you should understand...

  • @bladedgekiller
    @bladedgekiller 11 років тому

    couldnt have been said any better

  • @PatBowden
    @PatBowden 13 років тому

    Very clever outro.

  • @MarcadamiaNut
    @MarcadamiaNut 12 років тому

    yes I did take another listen and I fucking love it. It's just sometimes I'm more focused on the instruments and can't understand the screaming, but once I listen, boy it's good!

  • @jordyvanstuivenberg855
    @jordyvanstuivenberg855 4 роки тому +1

    #1

  • @BiggyTalls93
    @BiggyTalls93 13 років тому

    I think it's supposed to be the train finally coming and stopping his thoughts short. It's weird tho cuz on my CD the song is 17:29 minutes long lol. Pretty fuckin cool if you ask me. The whole story is just so powerful and heart-wrenching. I personally enjoy the older brother's story more than the younger brother's, although they are both incredibly tragic. It's surprising that a hardcore-punk band can have a cohesive line of concept albums that are this well done. Fucking love Defeater.