As a US Marine Combat Veteran, I can tell you, war does not make heroes, it only makes victims. You already are or are not a hero. War won’t make you one.
I hope no one showed up with a playstation game in hand and thought thats how it worked. I dont envy the inexperienced folks - its not something get used to in a couple of days.
An American Marine who went there said they got shelled for six days straight. He said he would have died had he not left. "we were no longer fighting guys in Iraq with sandals and rifles, but the Russian army." The US soldiers aren't used to being hit by artillery.
I have the same problem here in the states. As a soldier that's been to war in Iraq with the 983rd Eng. Battalion in 2004, I keep warning these guys that want to go there and fight. First, I remind them that we have no extradition treaty with the Russians. If your captured. They can do anything they want to you. Second, if you've never fired a rifle at a human being, don't start. Once you open the door, it can't be closed again. Who you are before you shoot someone and after are very different people.
"if you've never fired a rifle at a human being, don't start. Once you open the door, it can't be closed again." such wise words from someone whose been there.
Have to agree with every bit of that statement brother. If veterans go there...they have to know there will be a far different set of S.O.P. and environment than they're accustomed to. If the U.S gets involved the game changes and they can reenlist...otherwise they're in the Ukrainians way and it seems they won't bother to ensure anyone other than Ukrainians safety and security
No modern American or British soldier has ever fought in a theatre where their side did not have absolute air superiority, overwhelmingly one sided artillery, uninterrupted communications, and a solid supply line. Their previous experiences could not have prepared them for the realities of facing a modern military force of a major nation.
Wrong ! Falklands 1982 British forces mounted an operation thousands of miles from home on the very doorstep of the enemy with no airfields . for their aircraft . 2PARA were outnumbered 3 -1 when they re-took Goose Green precisely the reverse of the odds required by military doctrine. The Argentines had Artillery , armour , aircraft flying from home bases on Argentine mainland. They were dug in on the high ground for weeks before the British Task Force landed. So you need to educate yourself mate !!
@@George-dx2sd Maybe we quibble on the definition of Modern. I doubt there are many Active Duty Soldiers remaining from a war that was fought 42 years ago. And those old men are not volunteering to fight in Ukraine.
@@George-dx2sd im argentinian you brits had everything in yor favore come on now!, better ships, better combat jets, better missiles, trained troops, help from USA, i can go on, argentinian troops where poorly trained with no equipment, you had night vision!, argentinians didnt, we starved you had a lot of food, we didnt have winter equipment, our missiles exocet where few and you savotaged them, no allies for argentina
@francotavera8494 absolute rubbish, the only thing I agree is that British troops were better trained, and that's the point of this argument. As for "night vision" have you seen the tech we had in 1982? And it was few and far between. You had numerically superiority air power to hand ( using napalm) arty , special forces and your guys were dug in! And your supply line was an hour away not 8000 miles. And as for having "allies" you guys were in the wrong trying to take the islands by force, so you didn't deserve any help.
@@keysofperception4377 those who went to fight in Ukraine were made to believe they're going to face orcs with shovels not the #2 arms exporter in the world.
No. He's shocked because Ukrainian armed forces doesn't have advanced technology nor sufficient ammunition like the US armed forces (except the ones provided by the US). Artillery and bullets are rationed in Ukraine - they plan and prioritize who should receive supplies immediately due to lack of resources. It's like the westerners experiencing how hard it is to live in the global south. Russia doesn't have any of these supply issues but they failed initially because their numerical superiority, conventional heavy weaponry, firepower and air superiority couldn't overpower the weaponry provided by the US which were less but very advanced and lethal. Russia fell back in advanced technology because after the fall of USSR government didn't fund research and the corrupt oligarchs in defense industries with government contracts never really made any contribution.
The Russians are NOT the Taliban, Syrians, or Libyan's. They are an extremely capable fighting machine. They are the last army you want to be up against.
Like the loss of NATO (mostly the US) in Vietnam, korea, iraq and Afghanistan wich was still crushed under the effects from the war they had with the soviets
чечню мы вернулись и выиграли, после нашего ухода из Афгана правительство выстояло еще 3 года, уходили с цветами Америка удирала раняя людей с самолетов, ваш кукольный режим не продержался и 3х месяцевВы вторглись в Сирию и не могли победить, пришли мы и игиловцы теперь и носа из пещер не показывают В африке сколько баз у США а повстанцы бегали у вас под носом и у Французов, пришли Вагнеровцы и игиловцы снова куда-то пропали За это время была еще война с Грузией, можете у грузин спросить что они потеряли за 8 дней В 2014 можете спросить у Зеленского, что потеряли те, кто устроил переворот в 2014-2018 можем посчитать сколько раз украинские силы попадали в котлы, где варились как хорошие поросята@@motorrebell
@@motorrebell 1)Chechnya is Russian, now, for some reason. And these same Chechens are fighting for it! 2) In Avgan campaign had precise point to fulfil. Synchronised with the official Avgan government, BTW. All of which were accomplished. And that, at the time when Russia had no army. As it was dismissed by the cold war loss. Which was indeed a big loss. In the cold war loss, Russia got more damage than in WW2. In cold war Russia always sucked. That is totally true. But, not in military strength. Even WW1 was postponed to WW2, because Russia was washed off the war field by the cold war (which was in parallel). Otherwise, there would be no communism and no WW2. 😉
I seen an ex US solder on Fox that was in Ukraine and he said " If you don't have military training stay home, you will only get in the way or die" And I thought that was great advice.
And as the veteran said: you weren't in Iraq or Afghanistan. You will not be facing untrained soldiers, you will be facing the Russians. Martin Dunwood was a coward who realized that on the other side, he had a powerful trained military force and ran out of fear to his home.
My grandpa was german, he was in poland, france and stalingrad after the war ended he never speak about the war and never speak in german again the only thing he say is that there is no glory, no pride, no honor in war the only thing in war is horror, death and madness…
@Nikolov222any side genius.no.wars.are.just there isn't a right side. It's only ever politicians who start and continue for money never has there been a right side to.any war.
My grandpa, also German, fought on the eastern front and ended up in Russian captivity, he only talked about it when he was drunk and even in that state you could hear he was terrified, war is hell
I am reminded of the Argentinian soldier and his British counterpart who returned to their respective homes after The Falklands War, only to find that people had moved on, and were not really interested in what they had done and who, during The War, had got on with their lives. The Argentinian in particulat got back home to find that during The War people were out enjoying life in pavement cafes, nightclubs, bars, restaurants etc, whilst he was freezing in some fox hole, as a conscript, in foreign terrain. Makes you think.
@Kyle Castloo maybe you need to understand true heroic bravery NOT PRETEND BS. There are wars & there are - wars 😳 which means given a great deal of consideration that ALL conflicts are different & will under different circumstances need to be faced different tactically. No sacrifice during war if done with the right commitment & heart is ever wasted & will always be appreciated by those who could not defend themselves. THATS LIFE & ALWAYS HAS BEEN FOR THOUSANDS OF YEARS.
I mean you look the polls when it comes to "Should we go to war/send troops to X country?" and the numbers are usually high. Then the question - "Would you enlist or deploy to X country?" and the numbers are dramatically lower. Troops are the VAST minority of a population that more often encourages them to martyr for peoples own ideas that they themselves wouldn never sacrafice for. Look at politicians, celebrities, oligarchs, and thier families. Dont see thier kids get blown away - but they'll send thoughts and prayers.
@@user-8fhkk3t How free are you? How much income tax do you pay? And VAT? It's far lower in Russia! Lol the heating bills alone in GB are criminal! You carry on thinking you live in a free country. GB has become an open prison with everyone filmed all the time. I received a fine in France for accidentally driving in a bus lane in London last time I was there. OMG the insane delusions of people. Russia is like GB was in the 1950s, and in a nice way. People have a life that includes getting together and having fun, not just struggling financially and violence in the cities...
I keep saying that to my delusional friends who think this war is like call of duty. It's very different when you fighting the enemy in Iraq or Afghanistan where you've got irregular armies and dudes with filthy rags on their heads and an AK-47, than engaging in combat with a well equipped and organized military force such as the Russians.
When the dust settles, you might be allowed to see who the belligerents really were.... and the delusions will disappear... pray for this day to come swiftly.
Before: thinks the Russian army is going to fold and be defeated in a few days Now: realizes they are fighting a nuclear power not a group like aks and the west occasional rpg
Speaking from the US perspective, if you don't have military training...stay home. If you have military training...stay home. It's just that simple. This is not your fight. If you think that Russia is the only aggressor and is to blame, then you've fallen for the propaganda and are being manipulated. Wise up.
My father fought in two wars. He had seen men screaming trying to keep there stomachs from falling apart. Heads blown off etc etc. War is terrifying. He was all military. So don't go to Ukraine unless you know what to expect or are trained in war fare.
Best not to go to Ukraine anyway. ❤It was premeditated by USA.❤ The USA installed the Nazi regime in 2014 in Ukraines Maidan.❤ USA backed the armed Nazi thugs that Hi Jacked a peaceful demonstation that had been ongoing for 6 months peacefully.❤ They killed the unarmed police in attandence and peaceful denonstrators alike.❤ I witrnessed this live on RT News at the time. ❤Poreshenko was the USA puppet that led the Nazi regime then. Now Dictator Zelentsky is USA puppet now.❤ He will not allow elections in Ukraine and persecutes all opposition to his Nazi regime. ❤Ukraine is the most corrupt place on Earth and is Bankrupt. ❤Any money that goes to Ukraine you can kiss goodbye to. ❤Ukraine reneged on the Minsk Agreement which they signed in 2015 and was Co signed by Germany (Merkel) and France (Hollande). ❤This is what provoked Russia into defending its borders from USA led NATO attack via USA puppet UKrainian Nazi regime Vassal.❤ Thankfully Russia is winning the USA initiated Proxy war. ❤I reckon Russia should take back all of Ukraine.❤ It always belonged to Russian anyway. ❤This would be the best way to protect all people from further USA led agression towards the Russian people.❤ Ukrainians and Russians are Brothers and have a great history. ❤USA history only goes back 250 years of which 232 of those years USA was at war with some other country because of USA agressive foreign policy.❤ Long live Mr Putin and Glory to Righteous Russia.❤
My grandfather saw people shot and killed then the bodies rolling off cliffs. That's the stuff he was willing to talk about. And a plane downed at night right above him. Saw tracers firing from it and all until it burst into flame and crashed in shallow sea a few hundred yards from him.
Going to war is no joke. The people you’re trying to kill also have a vested interest in staying alive also and will resist hard to ensure they survive and you die. If you go over to the Ukraine to fight, these are the questions you might want to consider. 1. Am I truly prepared to die for this cause? 2. Am I willing to risk being seriously maimed or disfigured? 3. Have I considered the consequences now and in the future regarding what war fighting will do to me physically and mentally? 4. Who will be leading me into battle, do I trust their competence, or will they be careless with my life? 5. What am I actually fighting for, do I really believe in the cause? 6. What if I change my mind, will I be allowed to leave? 7. How do the rules of war (The Geneva Convention) protect me if I am captured by the enemy? 8. Am I fit enough, psychologically prepared and militarily competent enough to go to war? 9. How do I actually feel about the concept of killing? 10. Will I be payed, compensated for injury or have access to medical care and pensions when I’m finished? 11. What impact will my service have on my family and loved ones? From ex British Army ( Op Granby/Desert Shield and Storm 90-91)
@Nameless Darkness Why do people always single out Americans in comments like these? As if there aren't whole swathes of westerners that think this way. Also, your statement "most, if not all," is a far cry from the truth.
@@ShamliseG sounds like someone who might have been drafted into the Vietnam War. I saw too many guys right out of high school get sent over to a country they’d never heard of to fight for a cause they weren’t clear on. Many came back uninjured physically but mentally in no shape to carry on with their lives. It is sad to see the class clown come home from war scarred for life.
That's why we have had kids from council estates in England thinking they can go over there just because they have sat and played Battlefield on their playstation.
@@adib396 True but you will find the real problem is the metropolitan londoners who want to go and start a world war. Fruit loops at best. But let the gender benders finally find their balls. If they ever.
I am Finnish guy in my mid 40s. I've done 1,5 years mandatory military service in Finland and continued my service in reserve. As for the weather and terrain, the conditions under which we Finns train are pretty similar to those in Ukraine if not harsher in the winter.These kids from urban areas in the West honestly don't know what they're getting into even if they say they have a solid understanding of the situation. They don't. Without training they are a danger to themselves and others. People like this vet are invaluable in a situation like that. Props to him.
@@romeolarenzo3929 our politicians aren't pushing people to go. They are doing the opposite. But there's nothing to legally prevent anyone going so they can only caution against it.
I agree, veterans who have military training is one thing, someone who doesn't is very likely to be killed one way or another. About the only ones who don't have combat experience who could be of help would be doctors and nurses, and they would have to have some sort of safe area to treat the sick and wounded.
@@joshgts9675 not only them. Basically everybody bordering with Russia does. They are existential threat, have proved that over and over. Had 8 months as conscript (infantry branch, was taught guerilla tactics after Basic, that and demolitions). Simply because it was estimated we'd be overrun by Russians within short time and there wouldnt be any clear front. Finns and Scandics in general have better terrain tho for defense..
I was a child during the civil war in ethiopia with my missionary parents. Its not a pleasant thing to see especially for a 9 yr old. Seeing grown men cry for there mothers. Seeing my dad coming home from doing surgery for 3 days no rest just to save lives. Its something you want to keep buried in the back of your head.
My grand-grandpa fought vs Nazis at WW2 as a Soviet soldier and he never told me any stories about it, I could only read an articles about him. The only good thing, that happened during that dark time was that he met my grand-grandma at the hospital where he got after being shot by a nazi in a cqb - she was a nurse, taking care of him.
Aside from Fallujah in Iraq and operation Red wings in Afghanistan most of the combat in the Middle East consisted of calling in airstrikes after taking contact for 10 minutes. The war in Ukraine is completely different and on a whole nother level. It's a REAL war.
Totally agree. None in our generation have seen a country get invaded from all sides in this scale. 750 missils the first day. And many of them some really heavy ones
It's just entirely different. I think it is important to remember that after the initial invasions which we won easily, we were fighting an insurgency in Afghanistan and Iraq the entire time, not a country's actual military. More Russians have died in a month in Ukraine than we lost in Iraq/Afghanistan combined in 20 years. Even that is still minuscule when you consider there were one day battles in the world wars that lost more people than all other wars in history combined. Really insane when you think about it.
@@johnhelton9533 USA troops are not ready for russia who is number 2 in the world the skirmish in ukraine is mainly about Killing Nazi azov in ukraine army Crippled ukraine so it won't try to join NATO Liberate parts of ukraine for Russian separatist
My Father was a Korean War Veteran and in the 44 years my Father was my Parent(RIP-2006)he only spoke briefly four times about his experiences in War. My Father was a Captain in the infantry and one time my Father said there was three things that stood out to him in War. My Father said #1 Brutally of War, #2 The Children of War and #3 the odors of death. A tear rolled down my Father’s face after he said this as not another word was said!
My grandpa was in Korea and didn't ever talk about it. He did mention that it was freezing during the winter which says a lot since he's from Northern Michigan.
Translation: I went there believing mainstream media that Ukraine was winning and that I could pick off Russians fighting on bow an arrows. The reality was that it was Afghan in reverse, with me playing the part of Taliban.
True. Most of these westerners go there to take photos and come back .because of their high casualties rate the Ukrainians don’t even want to give them any roles even to those who are Iraq and Afghanistan veterans. They’re not trained for this kind of war fare and most are also relegated to training conscripts. I wonder what training they give to them considering themselves not experienced in such wars. Besides negotiating to release western POWs are extremely difficult.
@@michaelfaraday8391 They're quite well trained for this, it's just that the other side is also sufficiently trained and equipped. Unlike those manhunts in the desert.
Like lamb to the slaughter. So sad to hear. We really need to educate our kids on geo-politics if we want to save them from our lying war hawks politicians. Sadly we only have a very few good politicians and Journalists who been stifled, discredited and in some cases thrown in jail on false allegations. Not a fan of Trump but just look at the crazy unfounded allegations made against him because he’s stood up against the neocons.
@@wellthatsokay8582man, don't listen what media says to you, it's total lie. Generally slavs special Russian (in ukrain and in Russia) are mentally best solders in the world in whole history of European wars. From start estern roman emperors hire them "varjags" to protect imperor, they dont go from clashes, they fight to death. Every normal person hate war, but when you are there, you fight. Lot of ukrainian guys are mobilised, and they families are in Russia, Russian , but they fight to the death. Paradox. In former yugoslavia, we all have same ruth, but war was brutal, suported by all nato states, to desolve that big country like treat geopoliticly.
I had the privilege of going to a barbershop as a kid owned by a bunch of WW2 vets. None of them said the word hero. My dad who is a Korean war vet has never talked about what he went through and never claimed to be a hero. Victims is the only thing war creates.
The ones who talk all the smack and remind us daily that they are vets are the REMFs that never saw any action. You volunteered, not my problem you got an infected hang nail 500 miles from any action. The ones that got their butts shot off won't talk about it unless you ask.
Well that's a first I can think back 50 + years speak about war veterans who served in the first and second world war who spoke about it and one thing they said if we ever forget the awfulness of War it will repeat itself,and the story my mum spoke about my grandad in the Battle of the Somme was about rats the size of cats coming out of men's bodies with flash still in their mouth is a very important lesson we must never be forgotten about the battlefields of the the Great War and many other Wars that are followed and through my experience and life men have spoken about their experience on the battlefield not one of them have boasted about being a hero quite the opposite and got very upset when they spoke about this memories they told me it is very important we never forget what war is about . I don't mean to be a pessimist God help us all for what were about to experience in these coming events WW111
Having done four tours, even I know better. It is one thing to go into battle with every advantage, in all domains, but this is a whole different ball game. I often feel that what I have done over two decades is akin to Combat Tourism, like the guy who goes on Safari with a staff of trackers, guards, guides and high tech equipment. This, however is like going on Safari with a spear, a knife, and a one armed local tribesman that you are not sure you can trust.
four tours couldnt have been too bad sounds like a vacation,dont imagine too many signing up for a second round if they survived the first fighting a modern army @@CanKicker68
This is a completely different war compared to Iraq, Afghanistan, and many others. The russians have a lot of artilery, rockets, a strong airforce and a shietload of tanks. It's not like in previous wars, where your biggest concern were snipers and landmines...
@@dcoing1907 i don't belive this number, from my informations is much lower but nevertheless, most of the soldiers fighting there are not even russians, they are members of different nations living in Russia, from very poor comunities so the gouvernment doesn't give a shiet about them.
@@georgepopescu1327 , They are living in Russian federation,it is their country. Every country is a mix of different people. But do not forget 60% of Ukraine are Russian speakers. Ukraine government is a puppet state of the west. For 8 years they have attacked Russian in the east Ukraine,and videos we have seen about Azov nazis practices is beyond imagination. Pure evil.
Please, Russia is not Mike Tyson and they are not fighting the US, they are fighting Ukraine with a few American volunteers. If Russia faced the US directly, then it would be them facing a Mike Tyson, the US would take them out in the first round.
@@superiorshotgun4348for long and always will be and you just should of ended up in toilet but your father decided to keep u and now we have degenarate😂
If there is one thing happening here that is significant is that Russia is gaining huge amounts of positive experience for any future conventional war.
Russia doesn’t need nor want this experience- it’s in our genes but we don’t want war nor we want to fight - we went to protect Russians who were asking for help for 8 years🔥
Russia's most experienced soldiers and special forces are.. gone. And thats the only way I can say it without having my comment deleted. The only ones gaining experience from this are the military brass that don't actually go to Ukraine.
It’s the Job of Politicians to settle this matter with Russia. If they refuse to do their Job, then they should fight in the Frontlines. No Yong man should risk his life for wealthy people.
As a teenager I used to think war was 'cool'. I guess I played too many video games but as I got older I realized that war is a terrifying prospect for anyone involved.
I was in ukraine last week helping along the polish/ukraine border when a young British soldier came up to me asking if I could help him cut in line to cross the border back into Poland. He said two of his friends died in the bombing and he didn’t want to fight anymore. I could tell he was beyond distraught, I felt so bad for the young guy, he wanted to help but ended up almost dying
yeah thats the reality..many might want to go over there and be a hero or soemthing but the reality is theres a chanc eof dying and by that time its too late...leave it to the trianed professionals..its nice to help and want to help but myself being untrained and such id probabyl only be hindering the operations
Five second summary, minus dark background music: Ukraine is cold, it sucks being cold, you could be killed while cold. And if you don't have prior experience soldiering, and a weapon, you could be useless on top of being cold and dead.
Im not a johnny hero !! Are you? No , you are not... But over twenty years in an infantry brigade I would believe that I might know a little about it. The guy or girl next to you is your brother or sister...They are your Dr. when you get hurt..They are friends when you need one the most...They will never desert you in time of need.. We are the most humanitarian Armed Forces in the world. No, I am not a JOHNNY HERO but I know a few personaly ...
But Elensky asked to arm these civilians to fight to the last Ukranians. He is a hero to the west. Didn't you see the clappings and standing ovations given to him by all the western world leaders.
Because they Others Side ist Russia, ITS Not about Ukraine , it's about Russia...Ukraine was an ignored country before this war...Most of people don't know where is located, which Language,religión etc it have...sorry but nobodys Care of Ukraine , the important Point ist to wecken Russia even they know Russi will ein
Zelensky is an idiot, he´s 50% responsible for all this mess. Putin gave him every chance to make a deal for almost two years but he laugh at the Russian ( I have the USA and UK behind me, the Russian wouldn´t dare to invade Ukraine)...now is too late.
@@sabitasahu3030 because that's none of thier business? And their country who do not directly involved in the war couldn't do anything to protect them...
I already experienced Iraq in the 2000s. One thing for sure is I´m not John Rambo or The Punisher. So 1 war is enough for me. It´s sad though because I learned to loved both countries over the years, and even learned Russian. Odessa was awesome, and I´ve been there 5 times.
You need to realise - Odessa is Russian city, formed by Katherine the Great. Russian and Ukrainians ARE THE SAME PEOPLE! Except for the West Ukrainians, who are mixture of Russina, Polish, Hungarians, Romanians, etc. Most of Ukraine is former Russian heritage - reason why all cities have Russian names! Ukraine itself was turned into "a country" in 1991. There was no Ukraine prior to that. Additional proof - there are no Ukrainian-language books or documents in history that date earlier then 1947 - This language was created artificially. This is reason why Ukrainians are Russian-speaking population. So those who divide Ukrainians and Russians, and trying to separate Ukrainians form Russian culture - are nuts.
@@digimaksA friend of mine immigrated to the US from somewhere in the Kiev region(don't remember the name of the town). Spoke Russian & always considered himself Russian, as did his whole family. Just one example, I know, but it doesn't fit the narrative the US media is selling.
I like how he doesn’t take a side. I’m paraphrasing, “Know what you are getting into. Do your due diligence. If you don’t have experience...think twice.”
Neither NATO nor the US or UK are officially in this war. The (former) soldiers going there are mercenaries. You can earn good money over there. Around 1000 to 2000 dollars per day depending on your experience. The problem is, that these mercenaries are used to fight untrained people with AK47 in some dessert village after bombing the whole country for 40 days. This is how the US usually does it. This time it is different. They are fighting a well trained profesisonal army that is probablsy winning without air support. It is not only the weather. The job is really much harder this time. That is what he is warning other mercenaries about.
@@carlosschaafygarcia884 idk where do you get the info about money, but your info about the Russian army is a bit off. They are trained, but not well enough. Also most of their elite units are already below the ground. The problem is, there is just too many of them, and they are merciless toward the civilians. It's a horde, and they have no regard about their own soldiers.
@@TheKitMurkit The problem you have with your claims is that the WEF puppet actor Zelenski has armed the civilians, therefore HE, and he alone has created the situation whereby the Russian forces now have no alternative but to treat every adult as a threat, and every building as a legitimate target. You really need to look far further afield to understand this situation. That policy is calculated to cause mass civilian casualties. Nothing else.
@@TheKitMurkit, you refute his claims with your own sourceless claims, lol. This war seems to care less and less about reality and more about whatever information the side you support is pushing.
Infantry units must fight as a well-coordinated team. They must quickly respond to orders without hesitation in moments of extreme stress and violence. Just because you can field strip and shoot an AK accurately at a target does mean you are qualified to be a combat rifleman. Most of these volunteers would better serve the Ukrainian cause as support personnel.
@gringott12 Don't fight it...just let it happen to you. Sure, Putin's cheerleaders also tell you not to fight your rapists. It's not so bad...just let it happen.
More than just following orders blindly. You need to be trained and know what you're doing and the person giving the orders need to know what they're doing. Nothing like charging a squad through a door while taking fire through said door during a training exercise because you want to advance forward and complete the objective, but not knowing where the enemy is on the other side and losing people from an impulsive charge. People would be better off fighting on their own than with a badly managed team hamstrung by bureaucracy.
@gringott12 in Ukraine, what would you call the civilians fighting tooth and nail (and winning!) for their homeland and the right to be free from a tyrannical, authoritarian ego maniac? An armed mob?
Ukraine. Ukraine allowed use of its airspace and airbases to the US and its allies, but only for cargo flights. Ukraine is a participant in the NATO led International Security Assistance Force in Afghanistan and has deployed troops as part of NATO's ISAF mission to the country. I just did a google search, copied and pasted, the interweb is amazing.
Now that the lines have somewhat stabilised, they've started dividing the international volunteers there based on competence. Trained combat vets get assessed on their skills before being assigned to a unit of their speciality while untrained applicants are now being put on a waitlist pending further needs. Ultimately the biggest value of the international volunteers isnt capability but morale. According to people I've talked to, the mere physical presence of a foreigner even if doing something mundane like checkpoint duty has been very reassuring to local Ukrainians in reminding them that the world knows their plight and is backing them up.
After all its one thing to change your facebook profile picture or donate money from afar or even send weapons, but leaving the safety of your home to enter an active warzone and risk your life standing side by side with a complete stranger against a common foe? That resonates, especially to people who have hit rock bottom and lost everything. EDIT: They are currently not accepting volunteers unless they have VERIFIABLE combat experience, apparently the number of combat vet volunteers has been so much they are upping the requirements.
thats what you get when you vote for a comedian actor to be president, who dissolves government, silences all other right wing parties, and proceeds to poke the bear. you will lose everything. everything is about leadership, whether personal or national or global. an incompetent fool will bring his country to rubble by his decisions and ego. and now trying so hard to manipulate them to enter the war against russia, which no country on earth is willing to, to sacrifice their people for his decision.
Yes, mental fitness of the Ukrainians at this point is just as important as skills, because if your heart don't believe you can do it, everything becomes 100 times harder. That goes for anything...
@@jonasokiveta5924 would you say the same about Ronald Regan? I wonder how bots like you still exist. The only country left crawling here will be Russia due to a pointless endless war it has created for itself. Failed in afgan, failed in Syria sna now failed in Ukraine. Reducing a country to rubble isn't liberating anything other than bricks and morter.
Ukraine is in top5 in the IT industry, most young guys speak English. I've never been there, but I've met Ukrainian refugees in Bucharest and had a chat with Dima. Very good English, probably they've learned it for the same reasons us Romanians did: jobs in IT corporations, games, movies. If you go to a different part of the world you shouldn't expect them to speak your language, but you to speak theirs, right? :-) I learned some Italian when I visited Italy, some Croatian for Croatia, and so on.
The Ukrainians tend to put foreign volunteers into units where they all speak the same language. Since a lot of the combat has involved guerrilla tactics, these units have freedom to move and fight as they choose.
@@mrityunjaytripathi5588 Yeah, I can see it everywhere. Anti-Russian sentiment is all over social media. Ukraine = good. Russia = bad. I bet the vast majority of the Russian military don't actually want to be there.
@@curt3494 Russian military had to come to secure their country's future. I never understood the West's hatred for Russians. It never lessened. It's Obama who gave the idea of Ukaraine's NATO membership. Now Ukraine is suffering. Russians, with their experience, know that there cannot be anything like occupation. Their idea is to destroy Ukraine's infrastructure. And they have been successful in that. They have 'liberated' Luhansk and Donetsk. They have also destroyed the dam that Ukraibe had built, which had destroyed 90% of Crimea's agriculture. Ukraine could have taken a lesson from the loss of Crimea in 2014, but it didn't. If Russia didn't care about civilian deaths, it would have done lot more damage, lot earlier. Theur typical modus operandi is to encircle a city and announce safe passage and safe time for passage. Once that time passes, whoever is left is a combatant. That's why Ukrainians were not letting people leave. Now Ukrainians are placing their ammunition in civilian buildings and firing feom there. The retaliation is obvious. Both sides are dishing out their own propaganda.
@@mrityunjaytripathi5588 Oh yeah, I totally agree either you. However, our media in the West is giving us a very one sided account of this conflict, and lying through omission.
Everyone should realise that going into a conflict like this as a 'foreign fighter' marks you as a 'mercenary' and, as such, removes any and all rights/protection normal soldiers would have in a combat situation.
IIRC you also need to be paid more than a person in a similar role, rank and seniority to be considered a mercenary under international law. Then again the Russians probably won't care either way.
This is false. You should be ashamed of spreading lies. The law of war states, anyone who takes up arms and is clearly marked and embedded with a nation, deserves the same rights as any other national soldier.
Putin said that all non ukrainian soldiers or volunteers will be treated like mercenarys by the russian military units. So they could just shoot them even if they surrendered and have been taken as prisoner. But when Putin invites his tchechen and syrian friends to join the russian side thats ok?! 🤦
I'm seeing this right after watching another clip regarding news of a British volunteer fighter who surrendered to Russian forces. Seriously, this guy speaks he truth that these foreign volunteer fighters don't even realize the kind of situation that they've just put themselves in.
Siberian is huge and beautiful landscape. Of the 190,000 prisoners of war by the German Sixth Army who were rearranged in Stalingrad, only around 5,000 came home alive, the others remained in Siberia. So that you are very welcome to experience it ;-)
We don't send prisoners of war to Siberia. Today we keep them in relatively good condition, including medical help. Number of Ukrianians who deserted or been captured - refuse to go back to Ukrainian side. besides- bigegr question arisse, why Ukrainian side shot down the Russian transport plane IL-76 that was carrying Ukrainian POW, which were intended for prisoner swap!?
@@bubeni_ They deserve to end up in Siberia and nothing else. I have never claimed that Stalingrad is in Siberia but that prisoners of war from the 6 Armè ended up there and Nazis from the former Ukraine deserve the same fate. Greetings from Serbia and I hope to come to your city one day.
You are right about the POWs of the AFU. But they are also mostly russians and they are soldiers, not mercenaries who do not fall under the Geneva Convention. Roughly and theoretically speaking, mercenaries can be shot on the spot without trial if they are recognized as unnecessary for exchange or are found guilty of war crimes. I don't think our military eliminate such captives, but the mercenaries have no rights and no hope definitely.
There is about a ten to one ratio for support and the troops actually shooting bullets. There was a clip about a week ago revealing that the Ukrainian's are fully aware that some people are just not suited for battle (one of the reasons they were looking for people with battle experience first) and the chap pointed out that many people volunteering to fight were simply not up to it and wouldn't be allowed to do so. Those people will likely find themselves helping civilians, running supplies, looking for bodies in the rubble of downed buildings etc. etc. etc. and would form part of that 9 person support group supporting the one with the rifle. Hence while the video is accurate from a pure battle perspective, it completely misses the idea that only one in ten actually shoots the bullet and their contribution is both valuable and critical.
They already have their own civilians willing to help. Thousends of Ukrainians came home from abroad when the war started. I doubt they need to import more clueless people who do not even speak the language.
In WW2 only 1 in 4 front line infantry shot at the enemy, and 1 in ten shot to kill. Modern training in the west has got that up to 85%! Problem is that it is done by company unity, muscle memory, and (there isn't a better way to describe this) indoctrination into us and them. And most people when back in the real world find it hard to legitimize killing even an enemy. The fact is most of the Russian troops would rather be anywhere else than the Ukraine, it is only Pathetic Little Pipsqueak Putin and his arse kissers who wanted this war. Slava Ukraine.
You have echoed my thoughts exactly. I have commented about this on other videos and been shot down for it. People have good intent but absolutely no clue of what they are heading into. Being a soldier is a skill. Skills aren't learnt in 5 minutes. Life is not a computer game.
you are right ... it is not a game but these people in Ukraine don't have time to learn !! They have to learn OJT.. I was well trained but too old for this round of punches unless it strikes home. Then my game begins !!
"Life is not a computer game." Someone needs to tell Putin this. The spoilt baby is trying to play an empire building game, but this is real life, with real life consequences. The problem is, he was born into an Authoritarian system, and such systems _infantalise_ their populations, so they don't grow up properly (hence one of the oldest civilisations on the planet, the Chinese, having a government that sound and act like Cartman). Putin is mentally like a child, he's not a proper adult, and I fear there's little hope of him growing up now, so it would be better for Russia, let alone the rest of the world, if he had a little accident.
It's not Call of duty, paintball or air soft. If you don't have skills to bring to the table stay home and donate your money instead of wasting it on a flight and becoming a nuisance not a help. God bless Ukraine and all who fight
Here are the problems with the Ukraine 🇺🇦 war: (1) lack of military training for volunteers and lack of proper firearms safety and handling. (2) lack of weapons, ammunitions, medical supplies, clothing, vehicles, water, fuel, etc. (3) lack of or complete logistics of Russian military abilities and capabilities. (4) lack of communication due to the fact there are currently 65 nations representing in the volunteers or foreign fighters. With all the various languages and dialects, there are over 165 languages among volunteers and foreign fighters.
My father was a WWII veteran who fought in northern Africa and through Italy up to the Battle of Cassino, then was a POW in a German prison camp for a year. He rarely spoke about his experiences, and if he did he never glorified it in any way, and usually limited it to humorous anecdotal things that had happened. It was probably his way of coping. Once in a while he'd get persuaded to attend local VFW meetings, and he always said it was the members who never saw any combat who'd speak of the guts, glory, and heroic drama on the battlefield. and how that the few who members who actually did see combat were always quiet about it.
I thought the same as I was reading your comment. It had to be those who never saw a real fight or weren't in real danger who are/were glorifying the terrors of war. The problem is just, that all these young people who are reading their books and are listening to their ramblings didn't know that these "soldiers" were never in a real fight. And it's always these infantile older men who are the loudest who are calling to action.
" ...he never glorified it in any way, and usually limited it to humorous anecdotal things that had happened." - My grandfather was also involved in the Battle of Cassino. (He'd also been at Dunkirk and El Alamein, served from the very start to the very end.) Also like your grandfather he never mentioned anything very often, and all his anecdotes usually involved him, friends, wine, and some sort of mischief.
I keep saying this: if you don't have combat experience, do not go to the front lines. I admire your emotional bravery but war isn't the place to test out your resolve. Even for combat vets, the lack of coordination, training and equipment from a gathering ofnragtag groups of men and women of all different ages, sizes and capabilities will hinder an operation. It's no joke. Also, this time, there is no rear detachment for support or even air support. Not even medical support too! You are on your own. You are now the insurgent.
Ehh, wars historically were always like that. Conscripts, no training and experience, and full of confusion. Civilians, farmers etc banding together. Humanity knows how to adapt. Birth of the Ukrainian Foreign Legion. Just like the French Foreign Legion.
@@michaellim4165 who said anything about encouraging? All I'm saying is if they want to, let them. Won't be the first, and certainly won't be the last. The world won't end, nor would humanity go extinct, because civilians chose to go to a war zone.
As a US Army vet, I would strongly encourage any Vet "tempted" to go fight this war that NATO and Washington started, to consider putting that energy into adjusting the attitude of our overrun Government. Going to fight on behalf of the Nazis in the Ukraine will only make you an accessory to a war crime. A crime us actual vets, fully intend to see punishment given to all who participated. So, behave accordingly out there.
My grandfather used to say , if you dig a hole deep enough, you will either find a young man who died for his county or a poor man who got killed by him.
I agree with this, I am a former 68W/75thID (Iraq/Afganistan) and there is a reason we train in an enviornment before we deploy, to aclamate to the combat enviornment. I salute the courage to fight but without the training you are at best cannon fodder, at worst you may end up being or causing fratricide. War is not a game, there are never winners, and no one in it comes out whole.
Nice you went and fought for USA imperialism and filling the pockets of the top 1 percent. Good job destroying a region and then pretending like it wasnt your fault.
I won't ask what you did in Iraq/Afgan (probably brought some democracy there), but it's quite strange to see international mercenaries in a place completely detached from them (like it's not their country sending them there, it's just for the money). So... Yeah, strange
People flock to wars now from across the planet, we’ve seen this in Syria and Ukraine for the last decade. Could be as simple as people simply want to or enjoy it.
A guy who rents from me was in ukraine helping in the beginning. He has returned back now and when I asked him if everything was okay he said that the war in ukraine is like no other war he has ever been in he said you could smell the fear of the young guys that had never fought like this before. The anger of fathers forced to stay and fight by ukraine forces in his opinion he said ukraine is talking bull that they will defeat the russians he Saud the russians fight with no rumors and that he is going back but not to fight but look for some of his dead friends. His message to anyone wanting to go and fight is don't you will die are you will watch your friends die he would rather go do another tour of Iraq then fight in ukraine. This gentleman has changed so much from his time in Afghanistan but his soul seems broken from his short time in ukraine
That’s because he’s now in a real war, and on the side of evil. War isn’t so easy and fun when your enemy actually has a realistic chance of killing you and you have to actually go fight instead of playing video games on base all day.
"The Grave" by Don McLean The grave that they dug him had flowers Gathered from the hillsides in bright summer colours, And the brown earth bleached white at the edge of his gravestone. He's gone.
When the wars of our nation did beckon, A man barely twenty did answer the calling. Proud of the trust that he placed in our nation, He's gone, But Eternity knows him, and it knows what we've done. And the rain fell like pearls on the leaves of the flowers Leaving brown, muddy clay where the earth had been dry. And deep in the trench he waited for hours, As he held to his rifle and prayed not to die.
But the silence of night was shattered by fire As guns and grenades blasted sharp through the air. And one after another his comrades were slaughtered. In morgue of Marines, alone standing there. He crouched ever lower, ever lower with fear. "They can't let me die! They can't let me die here! I'll cover myself with the mud and the earth. I'll cover myself! I know I'm not brave! The earth! the earth! the earth is my grave." The grave that they dug him had flowers Gathered from the hillsides in bright summer colours, And the brown earth bleached white at the edge of his gravestone. He's gone.
My Grandad will tell you that too. Gassed, Trench fever and never mind being shoot at, then the lingering nightmares till his death in 1963. I got frostbite once just working in a cold place and that's a really bad being cold with no way of getting to a warm place is the worst thing that can happen - apart from being shoot at as well.
Yes the constant extreme cold will give you a worse death than anything else. In WW2 Germany lost more men to hyperthermia than gunshot or mortar attack wounds. Soldiers literally frozen in positions still holding their rifles in firing positions.
@@matty6848 HypOthermia. And few of you, i imagine have, as I,lifted the body of a single dead with the rigor mortis that ensues within a couple hours. After weeping for one for a few short moments, you will find years of desire to learn how to end this thing in a skilled manner. The most pain outside of permanent injury or acute, awake wounds, is when frostnipped extremities are returning to circulation.
Just imagine how horrible it was for the men during the Revolution and the Civil war. I went on a bus trip once to Gettysburg and we were told more men died of the cold, infections and starvation than did by getting shot.
Even being a fully trained combat soldier doesn't prepare you for the reality of war. As an ex infantry combat veteran, I would never willingly put myself into that situation. I just feel for all the poor souls dragged into this mess. Because at the end of the day it's all about money.
For some, maybe. But for Ukrainians it is about their survival as a free nation. I'm a Ukrainian, who is in Antarctica now. My shift is over in a week or so, then I am about to return to Ukraine to participate in opposing the enemy who wants to destroy my country. I have an option to stay almost in any country in the world of my liking. But my choice is to return home when it is on fire. Because it's not for money, it's about existential threat to my homeland.
I heard from an interview of an US vet AZOV volunteer that fought in Mariupol early in the war saying that they are in fact the peasants in sandals now.
This is why only trained personnel should attempt to travel over there... my experience in the Falklands taught me how to deal with the cold inhospitable surroundings. It is far from glorious and takes a lot of resolve to survive. Go if you must, but its no bed of roses...
I disagree, determination beats any experience. You get a crash course in modern warfare then only your luck determines how long you stay in service, but it applies to everyone.
Anyone who has been shot at knows the feeling. Only through repetitive training and faith in: Command, Equipment, Comrades, Purpose can you truly overcome that initial fear. Anyone not having these will struggle. This man is not a coward, just a fish out of water, he no longer had what he knew, to deal with. Those brave international volunteers must take what training they know and adapt and not impose their knowledge on the situation, but allow the environment to extend their abilities. So say I with 30years military/operational experiences.
I'm an Army veteran from the 1980's, now 58 years old and not in great shape. I was not a grunt, I was in small arms repair, and guns have continued to be my main hobby all my life. I even worked for a major gun manufacturer for a few years. My civilian career as a machinist only adds to my useful expertise. So I would seriously consider going over there if I could be processing incoming small arms somewhere near the Polish border. Preferably on the Polish side! Yeah, who hasn't had Rambo daydreams looking at that stalled convoy? But I know I'd be in the way and my young kids (second marriage) might get left without a dad. Unless a clear position for me to help with small arms appears, the best thing I can do is keep working at my job here and send as much money as possible to charities supporting the Ukrainian military or refugees. So far I've sent $2500, and I plan to send another $500 when I get paid at the end of this week. I've also contacted my congressman and senators, and I take part in protests to keep other people aware of what is going on. Edited many days later to say that I had some brand new folding solar panels with USB and 18 Volt outputs, and I just shipped off three of 60 Watt rating plus three of 120 Watt rating to Ukraine, earmarked for military use. Maybe worth $700 or so altogether? I paid the shipping to a freight forwarding service in the USA. Still looking for ways I can help. My sister has given "some money" to an organization feeding refugees along the Polish border... if I know my sister, "some money" means several thousand dollars.
Keep up your good work friend. I too am 58 and ex 1980s serviceman (uk). My Rambo dreams visit my head many times to go help the Ukrainian people but I’m still at home feeling angry about Putins Russia and so frustratingly sad for those civilians being treat the way they are. Good will win over eventually I’m sure by the looks of those Ukrainian defenders 👍 I am flying a Ukrainian flag in my home and I am donating as and where I can. No matter what they have our hearts and respect. 👍🇬🇧🇺🇸🇺🇦💕🇷🇺🌈
You never fought the real war against more advanced with technologies like Russia and china, you fought in Iraq, Afghan and Syria was not war but you fought with kids who cannot stand up defend.
The majority of these volunteers had no military training, they just watched several episodes of Rambo ,just tells you what the UKRAINE thought of them
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@@albertafarmer8638 No hell, no heaven, it's all just a illusion. Know right, know wrong, live free of delusion. Every step we take is one toward death. Today may be the last sun that sets. There is no paradise where there is no light. These dark ages breed forever night. It only takes one martyr to bring disaster. And war will reign forever after. No time to waste on making amends. When it's all burned up in seeking revenge. Follow no leader that invokes your rage. Preserve the past and then turn the page.
@@albertafarmer8638 your god is nothing he was mad to control kings who controlled the people,rapture please Christians have split more blood on gods name than anyone in history
Maybe more a balance between rationality and emotions. Compassion isn't wrong, but one must think (also) rational with these extreme subjects. Or at least, thats what i think. A bit of emotion isn't bad, but following it blind might be dangerous for you and your peers.
Well, if you look at things as they really are, you might recognize that Putrin needs to be stopped, and you might recognize that he won't be stopped by NATO. He will only be stopped by individuals on the ground willing to sacrifice themselves for a better world.
Emotional warriors trained on Call of Duty... volunteer cannon fodder. Untrained, inexperienced and unfortunately will meet the fate of the unprepared. Tragic really.
Yes of course, all knowledge, skill, and survivability, can only come from a government issued training.. people by nature are incompetent at all tasks when not trained and licensed by a government...
If this is not your war, then you have no business in Ukraine, unless your paid security or with a legitimate humanitarian organization. What's wrong with people? Can they not separate the gaming world from reality? I served 8 years in the army, and I would not set foot on that soil as a foreign insurgent. The side you are fighting with will have no loyalty toward you. Food and ammo rations will go to local fighters first. The "suicide" missions, however, will be assigned to you first. You will be disposable. Maybe lose your life, to draw mortar fire, so the Ukraine army can see where it's coming from. Just stay home. If you must fight and risk your life, do it for your family, or your freedom. Something that has a reason.
“Foreign Insurgent?” Foreigners who serve in Ukraine’s International Legion are Regular Enlistees in the Ukrainian Army, not disposable cannon fodder. They get Geneva Conventions Cards and draw [modest] pay and everything a local UA soldier does. There are 16,000 of them in-country so far. If they were being used like the Grunts in Halo are, well we’d hear about it by now and that would affect the Legion’s recruitment, wouldn’t it?
Information I heard in Canada was they have all the non-combat volunteers they can use. They said the process to sign up is through the Ukrainian Embassy. They also said they are only interested in those with military training and experience, to serve in the foreign brigades. People shouldn't travel there to sign up, but check with the embassy in their country first. The Ukrainian military organizer said they were only interested in people with military training, who know things like rules of engagement, military command and communication structure, and so on. So it isn't like the Spanish Civil War at all. People who only know how to operate a firearm and have a few survival skills are not the people they are looking for in the foreign brigades.
True, for instance they don't accept Africans because the law in most of Africa is you will be punished with a long jail sentence for 'being a mercenary' (even unpaid)
They would take anyone and use them as cannon fodder. And also they will make you sign a contract on indefinite time and if you try to leave you will be treated as a deserter. That said, if you want to serve under Neo Nazis be my guest.
totally agree with this guy, I was in the U.S. army as a tank gunner and got out right before the second gulf war and my 18 year old loader that I trained on my tank got killed by a sniper and my tank commander got his foot blown off by an IED...I was lucky to never have seen any of it!
@@airfight10 Depends on the person. Some think that the military service pays for their education. Some have no other real option for employment. Some want to see the world and have an adventure. The people who think of the possibility to be maimed don't sign up.
Yet that unfortunately is one of the risks and part and parcel of being a soldier. The US army does not do conscripts anymore, so you sign up for that and there for have to accept potentially being exposed to such risk, even death.
@@Pikkabuu yes, and is stupid(and unfair) asf how a "1st world country" like the US still DONT have free college education for those who take the necessary scores. But they NEED to maintain the expensive college education, thats a way of attracting cannon fodder for the armed forces. In my country the best colleges are free, the paid ones are for those who dont score enough, it should be this way in any decent country.
@@pagodebregaeforro2803 Identity politics in the US makes free college based on scores impossible. Furthermore, there are plenty of college graduates with worthless degrees working in retail stores. Airlines strongly prefer flight attendants to have university degrees. There is not a shortage of university trained people. There is a shortage of trained skilled people. University degrees are FAR overrated and are expensive because students can get govt. guaranteed loans regardless of academic ability. Finally, there is no "FREE" anything. Someone is paying. Why should taxpayers finance your education? Why shouldn't they finance an plumber's or electrician's education?
Your right, but for the Vets that fought in the beginning from 2001 to 2004, we did just that.We had no Fobs waiting for us, we made all of them with sand bags and Etools. My unit dug trenches in 2001 after taken Qhandahar during winter and then when we fought again in Iraq doing house clearing. SO yes experiences my differ.
brother thats true but we were still kids back then and damn near super human; we still trained to fight Ivan back in those days. we knew about hasty fighting positions every time you stop and if your were there longer than 12 hour start digging in and don’t forget 18 inches of overhead cover. these kids are different, smart but not as tough as we were overall and we can’t save then because we got old. hell it takes me 9 minutes to run a mile these days when i use to do it in 6 and i was the slow guy lol. prove me wrong; modern America gets its feeling hurt if you don’t vote the same, say women can be special forces too and don’t call bruce a woman. meanwhile this is a conventional war; we don’t have the mindset to handle this type of conflict anymore. our factories can’t retool and build planes hell we can’t get Americans to go back to work.
But you were still superior to the enemy in every possible way. No doubt the experience sucked in many ways, but it could have sucked one hundred times more.
I spent years (as a civilian) in remote, unsupported locations, often conflict zones. Most western ex. military, even combat veterans, that I have worked with were used to an immense and competent command and support structure, with equipment, food, shelter, medical and lots of tax dollars backing them up. Add to this the likely lack of any language skills to integrate into a command structure, and the recently discharged squaddie is going to be a liability to others and danger to themselves. Maybe ex SFs with Russian language skills, medics/corpsmen and doctors/nurses, or expat Ukrainians could contribute. But the rest? Help refugees or make a donation instead.
@@robuzytkownik7505 i curse the Nazis that murder their own people for 8 years. When i see another ukranian. Which i know plenty. I will look them in the eyes and tell them what evil tools they are. I will tell them that murdering women and children for 8 years is pretty evil.
As an Army combat veteran, I completely agree with his statement where he said that all of you young new guys are just being a "hindrance" rather than being considered help! I agree with his statement because I myself was a paratrooper infantry soldier with more training and experience than other soldiers around me, so I had to instead continually worry about protecting either the new soldiers with little training or the young 18 years old volunteer afghan militia that we had patrolling along with us. Then, the situation was made even worse when had female army soldiers come over to visit us in order to cook for us and help us with medical treatment, but instead of fighting whenever they heard gun shots, they just dropped everything, including their rifles and either ran away or hid in the bunkers. These female soldiers would also run toward me and beg me for protection while I was in the middle of returning fire to the Taliban, so then I had no choice but to stop what I was doing and instead focus on protecting these terrified female soldiers and also constantly keep an eye on the new soldiers and young afghan militia that had no idea what they were doing and often ran toward me, rather than to stay and shoot! Some of them even made so many mistakes that I almost got killed because of them, so I just could not rely on these people, even if I wanted to do so. This is why I completely agree and support his statement on saying that young newbies from any nation should NOT be traveling to Ukraine to join the fight for any reason at all, specially not to try to be a hero because you will not only be a complete hindrance, but you can also get one of your own teammates hurt or killed as well, like what exactly happened to me on various occasions, whenever I had young newbies or females soldiers in my team. This is not a game, this is life or death, so you need to suck up your pride and instead think with your head, rather than with your heart, or else the consequences can be very bad and I say this from multiple years of experience that I have in this matter, and not just because I want to talk or support any statement here! Don't play with your life, no matter how hardcore you feel like or no matter how sad you may also feel like as well! You will thank me later once you get older and see everything that you could have lost and all of the problems that you also have to deal with, simply because of the immature and unwise actions that you made when you were younger. This message is not just for the young guys, it also goes out to any older people out there with no combat experience and also to females who have no combat training or to those females who have any doubt at all when it comes to dangerous situations or dealing with anyone's pain, because these doubts will eventually come out during combat and get others hurt very bad. So do not do it, even if at least for the sake of keeping others safe from your hindrance and mistakes!
Why do you write a novel just to demonstrate you are a hero and everybody else scared cowards? I don't believe USA train female soldiers to chicken out under conflict, if so you are obliged to report such incidents, having clowns withdrawn from the battle ground.
@@richardnixon7248 there's feminism and there's realism. You can't charge a female with these type of roles. As you can't charge a man with other type of roles. Even a feminist would tell you the same thing
This is different because you used to fight against small countries, easy for you to pick up on people un-armed. But now you see what it looks like to be bullied by a bigger one.
Check out Patrick Lancaster's reporting about the true situation in the Donbass region. It is real unedited reporting. Make your own research first and foremost.
I’ve been wondering from the start, with literally millions of military age men, does Ukraine really need foreign volunteers? Also, I enlisted in the USMC in 1969 and was 0311 Rifleman , I’m here to tell you that combat isn’t nearly as much fun as an 18 year old thinks it is.
From one infantryman to another infantryman, I agree with you 100000%. Unfortunately, Millennials and Generation Z played too many video games and watched too many action movies. They have no idea what's in store for them once they get into a war zone.
Agreed. I'm currently a mere young adult with no war experience whatsoever but even then my late grandfather's lecture for me years ago are already enough to put me off from the front line. Those young men think they can just storm through enemies' strongholds and do 360 no scoping them, or charge at the machine gun-equipped enemies with only a knife while they were being fired upon left to right, or even thinking they could just die and then respawn again. 😑
The biggest impediment is not knowing the language. It takes months of difficulty and frustration to learn a useable amount of Russian or Ukrainian. It just adds to the nightmare of going into someone else's fight and makes the likelihood of getting killed much greater. I did military service. I suppose what that gives me is some perspective on the amount of training required to be useful as a soldier. I would think even a capable soldier would find the language barrier alone, very daunting, let alone a person with no military experience. I think military training is a shock to most people. It is a foreign experience and you realise that for soldiers, not much has changed in 2000 years...except the weapons.
Just imagine having to learn to speak 165 languages and dialects to properly conduct military operations. That's all the volunteers and foreign fighters in Ukraine currently.
The price of war. Incidentally, many went to Greece to fight the Turks. Best known was Lord Byron, and he was some use, too. In the USA we remember the foreign fighters with gratitude. And know their names, often, Pulaski, Lafayette, Von Steuben…maybe Ukraine will remember some of these.@@dennisnaderhoff2008
A few of the mercenaries who actually returned to their home countries talked about how the Ukrainian military gave them only 10 rounds of ammunition & some even had their passports confiscated. The lucky ones managed to make it to Poland across the border. The unfortunate ones have been captured by the Russians. One of them is Sean Pinner.
@@ismiismael yes, im a militar doctor (ortho surgeon). Being in a few conflicts. Saw many bad things, but Im used to. War is hell, stupidity in human kind
I've never been to war my self hope I never need to, but when my grandfather was alive he told me there's a very large difference between a soldier that has see battle and one that has not
I went paintballing just before Christmas, I got shot in the head 4 times in half an hour by my mates. these boys signing up like it's a game of call of duty will be dead on the first day.
I went over for 6 months as a 12 year Canadian veteran. I thought it would be Afghanistan all over again. WOW was I wrong. It was INSANE the amount of artillery Russia has. They bombed us 24/7 for 6 months straight.. around the clock. NON STOP. After 6 months of that I came back (with ptsd). I now understand what my army buddies went through.
As a fellow Canadian. Thank God you are back home safe. Please don't ever do that again. That is not our fight. God gave us a beautiful country, full of peace and natural beauty,. He also have us the live to cherish it and enjoy it. Do not throw your life away for other people's wars.
Wow, interesting to hear the first-hand experience. Being under constant bombardment certainly has extreme psychological impact. My father fought in the Croatian war of independence, or as we call it the Homeland War. He says that war is not just constant combat, quite the contrary in fact. Makes sense, they were holding positions for days waiting for the enemy to attack. And mind you, he was in a recon platoon (although it was just called recon, usually it only meant they were the furthest forward). The battles were usually relatively short, since they were always outgunned and outnumbered in the early stages of the war, so they would usually try to hold where they could and if the enemy brought their tanks and AFVs out (which they often couldn't engage at all because they had literally no AT weapon to speak of) they would fall back to the next position, the next village. He says they were constantly bombarded by mortars and artillery. Days upon days of bombardment, rain, cold. He says it broke many men psychologically, they just couldn't take it anymore after some point. He says he vividly remembers when they captured a small mortar (probably only a 60mm) and a few rounds of ammo and they fired those few small rounds back at an enemy position, they felt as if they were half-way to winning the war. My father also believes a large factor in the stunning victory of our army in Operation Storm and the massive enemy retreat was that the enemy soldiers for the first time in the war experienced such a massive artillery bombardment, which they weren't used to.
@@MaxCroat Ustashe are the enemy just like Bandera. Western proxies with bloodlust. US empire is crumbling and so is its imposed disorder. War in Ukr was chosen by the US after ignorng their promises to Gorbi. US proceeded with taking over in neocolonial fashion and looting like no tomorrow. RF is beating the sheet out of western imperialists with Ukr population serving as cannon fodder. 10 years now since Nuland-Pyatt-Svoboda-Ťahnibok-Turčinov-Kličko shootings on the Majdan Nezaležnosti. That was the moment their state became dependent on the US. Whole west either helped directly or pretended nothing was happening. US aggressed via Saakashvili in 2008 too. It now looks far away. Connect dots and there you go. Arty shockwave loves to do contusion which damages brains. Its not feelings, its real impacts.
As a US Marine Combat Veteran, I can tell you, war does not make heroes, it only makes victims. You already are or are not a hero. War won’t make you one.
I hope no one showed up with a playstation game in hand and thought thats how it worked. I dont envy the inexperienced folks - its not something get used to in a couple of days.
This hits hard
Oh! do tell me Sonny Jim!
What I said from the beginning as someone with no military experience. It only takes lives, buildings etc can be rebuilt but lives can’t.
Sir absolutely u say right sir ,
An American Marine who went there said they got shelled for six days straight. He said he would have died had he not left. "we were no longer fighting guys in Iraq with sandals and rifles, but the Russian army." The US soldiers aren't used to being hit by artillery.
Whats ths objective of russian in iraq? Oil or dominance? Care to share your opinion?
Russian bot. Tell this to the Russian consripts
NOBODY is “used to being hit by artillery.” Being a “US soldier” is immaterial to that observation.
true.. great sniper wali fired two bullets and returned canada.. u can listen his interview
It also wasn't the U.S. military fighting. If it were this would be much different. Russian positions would be decimated in days
I have the same problem here in the states. As a soldier that's been to war in Iraq with the 983rd Eng. Battalion in 2004, I keep warning these guys that want to go there and fight. First, I remind them that we have no extradition treaty with the Russians. If your captured. They can do anything they want to you. Second, if you've never fired a rifle at a human being, don't start. Once you open the door, it can't be closed again. Who you are before you shoot someone and after are very different people.
"if you've never fired a rifle at a human being, don't start. Once you open the door, it can't be closed again." such wise words from someone whose been there.
Very good comment.
Also the Russian military is offering no quarter to any captured soldier so you better be prepared to fight to the death!
Have to agree with every bit of that statement brother. If veterans go there...they have to know there will be a far different set of S.O.P. and environment than they're accustomed to. If the U.S gets involved the game changes and they can reenlist...otherwise they're in the Ukrainians way and it seems they won't bother to ensure anyone other than Ukrainians safety and security
I wish some of the armchair generals (who got ptsd from the wife overcooking dinner one night?), would go.
No modern American or British soldier has ever fought in a theatre where their side did not have absolute air superiority, overwhelmingly one sided artillery, uninterrupted communications, and a solid supply line. Their previous experiences could not have prepared them for the realities of facing a modern military force of a major nation.
Wrong ! Falklands 1982 British forces mounted an operation thousands of miles from home on the very doorstep of the enemy with no airfields . for their aircraft . 2PARA were outnumbered 3 -1 when they re-took Goose Green precisely the reverse of the odds required by military doctrine. The Argentines had Artillery , armour , aircraft flying from home bases on Argentine mainland. They were dug in on the high ground for weeks before the British Task Force landed. So you need to educate yourself mate !!
@@George-dx2sd Maybe we quibble on the definition of Modern. I doubt there are many Active Duty Soldiers remaining from a war that was fought 42 years ago. And those old men are not volunteering to fight in Ukraine.
@@George-dx2sd im argentinian you brits had everything in yor favore come on now!, better ships, better combat jets, better missiles, trained troops, help from USA, i can go on, argentinian troops where poorly trained with no equipment, you had night vision!, argentinians didnt, we starved you had a lot of food, we didnt have winter equipment, our missiles exocet where few and you savotaged them, no allies for argentina
@@George-dx2sdThe OP said 'modern soldier'. No soldiers from the Falklands will still be in the British army in 2024. It was 42 years ago. Idiot.
@francotavera8494 absolute rubbish, the only thing I agree is that British troops were better trained, and that's the point of this argument. As for "night vision" have you seen the tech we had in 1982? And it was few and far between. You had numerically superiority air power to hand ( using napalm) arty , special forces and your guys were dug in! And your supply line was an hour away not 8000 miles.
And as for having "allies" you guys were in the wrong trying to take the islands by force, so you didn't deserve any help.
An old soldier once said to me , ' there is nothing glorious in war only death and destruction. Those two things alone. '
How about Instagram likes?
Why do people join the army then? Because they got deceived and lied to?
@@keysofperception4377 those who went to fight in Ukraine were made to believe they're going to face orcs with shovels not the #2 arms exporter in the world.
@@ikaustralia everybody knows the Russian Army is strong.
True, but you will also find out WHO you are.
Who would have thought that fighting a real army with real technology could be more deadly than bullying countries without anything but rifles... 🤔
Amazing isn't it....
😂😂👏👏👍
I’m sure the Iraqs had tanks, aircraft, anti tank weapons, and not just sandals to fight the Allies
No. He's shocked because Ukrainian armed forces doesn't have advanced technology nor sufficient ammunition like the US armed forces (except the ones provided by the US). Artillery and bullets are rationed in Ukraine - they plan and prioritize who should receive supplies immediately due to lack of resources. It's like the westerners experiencing how hard it is to live in the global south.
Russia doesn't have any of these supply issues but they failed initially because their numerical superiority, conventional heavy weaponry, firepower and air superiority couldn't overpower the weaponry provided by the US which were less but very advanced and lethal. Russia fell back in advanced technology because after the fall of USSR government didn't fund research and the corrupt oligarchs in defense industries with government contracts never really made any contribution.
So true
I spent twenty years in the Army and deployed to Iraq, Afghanistan and Korea. I would never volunteer to go to war - especially for another country.
KOREA???????? That's LOOONG ago????
@@johnsamuThere are still US bases in Korea today. I'm 36 and I spent about a year patrolling Korean waters.
@@christianclark347 OK., that makes more sense because my ex neighbor (RIP) was a Dutch Korean war vet so I was a bit surprised
YOu realise - this is not ideological volunteering - it's about thinking of making easy money. It's not for free.
you are clever.. you don't want to die.. that is why you didn't die.
The Russians are NOT the Taliban, Syrians, or Libyan's. They are an extremely capable fighting machine. They are the last army you want to be up against.
Like their Loss in Afghanistan & 20 Years in Chechnya ? 😅
Like the loss of NATO (mostly the US) in Vietnam, korea, iraq and Afghanistan wich was still crushed under the effects from the war they had with the soviets
чечню мы вернулись и выиграли, после нашего ухода из Афгана правительство выстояло еще 3 года, уходили с цветами
Америка удирала раняя людей с самолетов, ваш кукольный режим не продержался и 3х месяцевВы вторглись в Сирию и не могли победить, пришли мы и игиловцы теперь и носа из пещер не показывают
В африке сколько баз у США а повстанцы бегали у вас под носом и у Французов, пришли Вагнеровцы и игиловцы снова куда-то пропали
За это время была еще война с Грузией, можете у грузин спросить что они потеряли за 8 дней
В 2014 можете спросить у Зеленского, что потеряли те, кто устроил переворот
в 2014-2018 можем посчитать сколько раз украинские силы попадали в котлы, где варились как хорошие поросята@@motorrebell
@@motorrebell
1)Chechnya is Russian, now, for some reason. And these same Chechens are fighting for it!
2) In Avgan campaign had precise point to fulfil. Synchronised with the official Avgan government, BTW. All of which were accomplished. And that, at the time when Russia had no army. As it was dismissed by the cold war loss. Which was indeed a big loss. In the cold war loss, Russia got more damage than in WW2. In cold war Russia always sucked. That is totally true. But, not in military strength. Even WW1 was postponed to WW2, because Russia was washed off the war field by the cold war (which was in parallel). Otherwise, there would be no communism and no WW2. 😉
Like the Americans running from Vietnam and then a virtual replay running from Afghanistan with the British leading the way @@motorrebell
I seen an ex US solder on Fox that was in Ukraine and he said " If you don't have military training stay home, you will only get in the way or die" And I thought that was great advice.
And as the veteran said: you weren't in Iraq or Afghanistan.
You will not be facing untrained soldiers, you will be facing the Russians.
Martin Dunwood was a coward who realized that on the other side, he had a powerful trained military force and ran out of fear to his home.
As a Gardener no less, my comment may interest you...
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Who's Martin Dunwood?
not completely true, there's plenty of russian prisoners offered freedom if they fought in ukraine.@@aaaaa-nw8hc
What was he exactly doing in Ukraine, anyway?
My grandpa was german, he was in poland, france and stalingrad after the war ended he never speak about the war and never speak in german again the only thing he say is that there is no glory, no pride, no honor in war the only thing in war is horror, death and madness…
Nice one,
My parent fought in WW2 in Europe, in the US Army, and never spoke of it, wouldn't.
War is hell, only idiots love or want war.
@Nikolov222any side genius.no.wars.are.just there isn't a right side.
It's only ever politicians who start and continue for money never has there been a right side to.any war.
My grandpa, also German, fought on the eastern front and ended up in Russian captivity, he only talked about it when he was drunk and even in that state you could hear he was terrified, war is hell
I am reminded of the Argentinian soldier and his British counterpart who returned to their respective homes after The Falklands War, only to find that people had moved on, and were not really interested in what they had done and who, during The War, had got on with their lives. The Argentinian in particulat got back home to find that during The War people were out enjoying life in pavement cafes, nightclubs, bars, restaurants etc, whilst he was freezing in some fox hole, as a conscript, in foreign terrain. Makes you think.
Like most Vietnam vets after the war
That’s the sacrifices of heroes ,who will dine in the halls of Valhalla
@@A.D.D.O.C.D.T ABSOLUTELY 💯
@Kyle Castloo maybe you need to understand true heroic bravery NOT PRETEND BS. There are wars & there are - wars 😳 which means given a great deal of consideration that ALL conflicts are different & will under different circumstances need to be faced different tactically. No sacrifice during war if done with the right commitment & heart is ever wasted & will always be appreciated by those who could not defend themselves. THATS LIFE & ALWAYS HAS BEEN FOR THOUSANDS OF YEARS.
I mean you look the polls when it comes to "Should we go to war/send troops to X country?" and the numbers are usually high. Then the question - "Would you enlist or deploy to X country?" and the numbers are dramatically lower. Troops are the VAST minority of a population that more often encourages them to martyr for peoples own ideas that they themselves wouldn never sacrafice for. Look at politicians, celebrities, oligarchs, and thier families. Dont see thier kids get blown away - but they'll send thoughts and prayers.
Made me lough when he mentioned Ukraine and free world!
He is a vicim of his government's and corporate media propganda.
yes we are the baddies
@@user-8fhkk3tproblem hohol
@@user-8fhkk3t How free are you? How much income tax do you pay? And VAT? It's far lower in Russia! Lol the heating bills alone in GB are criminal! You carry on thinking you live in a free country. GB has become an open prison with everyone filmed all the time. I received a fine in France for accidentally driving in a bus lane in London last time I was there. OMG the insane delusions of people. Russia is like GB was in the 1950s, and in a nice way. People have a life that includes getting together and having fun, not just struggling financially and violence in the cities...
@@thethinredline4714Give me a break 😂
So, it's not like fighting poor people in sandals armed only with AK's?
ahahaha good one
no AK's, they actually only had shovels
@@Aramiji994 and washer machines 😂😂
You have just hit the nail one the head mate
Not at all… unfortunately NATO like the IDF have ZERO EXPERIENCE fighting an Army.
Yeah it turns out when you're fighting an enemy with artillery, air, drones, helicopters and communications, you're the insurgent
I keep saying that to my delusional friends who think this war is like call of duty. It's very different when you fighting the enemy in Iraq or Afghanistan where you've got irregular armies and dudes with filthy rags on their heads and an AK-47, than engaging in combat with a well equipped and organized military force such as the Russians.
@@finnandcorkyour English sucks ass
as a westerner I completely agree. The US empire and its imperial interests need to fall@@finnandcork
@@jimtroeltsch5998yes and let russian, chinese, and iranian empires rise. Time for democracy to fail and kings to come back.
When the dust settles, you might be allowed to see who the belligerents really were.... and the delusions will disappear... pray for this day to come swiftly.
“Only the dead have seen the end of War.”
this is different since your enemy REALLY is fighting back.
Before: thinks the Russian army is going to fold and be defeated in a few days
Now: realizes they are fighting a nuclear power not a group like aks and the west occasional rpg
Speaking from the US perspective, if you don't have military training...stay home. If you have military training...stay home. It's just that simple. This is not your fight. If you think that Russia is the only aggressor and is to blame, then you've fallen for the propaganda and are being manipulated. Wise up.
Best comment in this thread.
Well said
Smart
Exactly, the aggressor is a country we know have violated many Middle Eastern sovereignties and murdered their leaders
Damed if you do damed if don't. Damed if you have experience dammed if you don't. Ahh duality
My father fought in two wars. He had seen men screaming trying to keep there stomachs from falling apart. Heads blown off etc etc. War is terrifying. He was all military. So don't go to Ukraine unless you know what to expect or are trained in war fare.
Best not to go to Ukraine anyway. ❤It was premeditated by USA.❤ The USA installed the Nazi regime in 2014 in Ukraines Maidan.❤ USA backed the armed Nazi thugs that Hi Jacked a peaceful demonstation that had been ongoing for 6 months peacefully.❤ They killed the unarmed police in attandence and peaceful denonstrators alike.❤ I witrnessed this live on RT News at the time. ❤Poreshenko was the USA puppet that led the Nazi regime then. Now Dictator Zelentsky is USA puppet now.❤ He will not allow elections in Ukraine and persecutes all opposition to his Nazi regime. ❤Ukraine is the most corrupt place on Earth and is Bankrupt. ❤Any money that goes to Ukraine you can kiss goodbye to. ❤Ukraine reneged on the Minsk Agreement which they signed in 2015 and was Co signed by Germany (Merkel) and France (Hollande). ❤This is what provoked Russia into defending its borders from USA led NATO attack via USA puppet UKrainian Nazi regime Vassal.❤ Thankfully Russia is winning the USA initiated Proxy war. ❤I reckon Russia should take back all of Ukraine.❤ It always belonged to Russian anyway. ❤This would be the best way to protect all people from further USA led agression towards the Russian people.❤ Ukrainians and Russians are Brothers and have a great history. ❤USA history only goes back 250 years of which 232 of those years USA was at war with some other country because of USA agressive foreign policy.❤ Long live Mr Putin and Glory to Righteous Russia.❤
When my dad was in the war
My grandfather saw people shot and killed then the bodies rolling off cliffs. That's the stuff he was willing to talk about. And a plane downed at night right above him. Saw tracers firing from it and all until it burst into flame and crashed in shallow sea a few hundred yards from him.
Never talk a testosterone laden fool out of his destiny. Your father was full of wisdom.
Get trained in history, learn about Stepan Bandera and you will not go to Ukraine
Going to war is no joke. The people you’re trying to kill also have a vested interest in staying alive also and will resist hard to ensure they survive and you die. If you go over to the Ukraine to fight, these are the questions you might want to consider.
1. Am I truly prepared to die for this cause?
2. Am I willing to risk being seriously maimed or disfigured?
3. Have I considered the consequences now and in the future regarding what war fighting will do to me physically and mentally?
4. Who will be leading me into battle, do I trust their competence, or will they be careless with my life?
5. What am I actually fighting for, do I really believe in the cause?
6. What if I change my mind, will I be allowed to leave?
7. How do the rules of war (The Geneva Convention) protect me if I am captured by the enemy?
8. Am I fit enough, psychologically prepared and militarily competent enough to go to war?
9. How do I actually feel about the concept of killing?
10. Will I be payed, compensated for injury or have access to medical care and pensions when I’m finished?
11. What impact will my service have on my family and loved ones?
From ex British Army ( Op Granby/Desert Shield and Storm 90-91)
10 and 11 most important to me
@Nameless Darkness Why do people always single out Americans in comments like these? As if there aren't whole swathes of westerners that think this way. Also, your statement "most, if not all," is a far cry from the truth.
@@ShamliseG sounds like someone who might have been drafted into the Vietnam War. I saw too many guys right out of high school get sent over to a country they’d never heard of to fight for a cause they weren’t clear on. Many came back uninjured physically but mentally in no shape to carry on with their lives. It is sad to see the class clown come home from war scarred for life.
This should comment should pinned to the top as it is essential people ask themselves these questions to decide if they're really up to it!
did you ask yourself these questions before you went off to kill iraqis ?
Picking a fight with a nuclear power is an act of profound stupidity
This should be TOP statement !
Только украинцы способны на эту глупость!😂 Их амбиции сильнее разума))😂
Only you and woman beaters seem to blame the victim.@@елена_матвеева24
That's why we have had kids from council estates in England thinking they can go over there just because they have sat and played Battlefield on their playstation.
@@adib396 True but you will find the real problem is the metropolitan londoners who want to go and start a world war. Fruit loops at best. But let the gender benders finally find their balls. If they ever.
I am Finnish guy in my mid 40s. I've done 1,5 years mandatory military service in Finland and continued my service in reserve. As for the weather and terrain, the conditions under which we Finns train are pretty similar to those in Ukraine if not harsher in the winter.These kids from urban areas in the West honestly don't know what they're getting into even if they say they have a solid understanding of the situation. They don't. Without training they are a danger to themselves and others. People like this vet are invaluable in a situation like that. Props to him.
You can go definitly to ukraine and fight a holy war. You will be a hero. Go to ukraine consulate they will advise you. God bless you
@@romeolarenzo3929 our politicians aren't pushing people to go. They are doing the opposite. But there's nothing to legally prevent anyone going so they can only caution against it.
I agree, veterans who have military training is one thing, someone who doesn't is very likely to be killed one way or another. About the only ones who don't have combat experience who could be of help would be doctors and nurses, and they would have to have some sort of safe area to treat the sick and wounded.
Damn, you guys have mandatory military service? The scav countries aren't the utopia everyone is led to believe.
@@joshgts9675 not only them. Basically everybody bordering with Russia does. They are existential threat, have proved that over and over.
Had 8 months as conscript (infantry branch, was taught guerilla tactics after Basic, that and demolitions). Simply because it was estimated we'd be overrun by Russians within short time and there wouldnt be any clear front. Finns and Scandics in general have better terrain tho for defense..
I was a child during the civil war in ethiopia with my missionary parents. Its not a pleasant thing to see especially for a 9 yr old. Seeing grown men cry for there mothers. Seeing my dad coming home from doing surgery for 3 days no rest just to save lives. Its something you want to keep buried in the back of your head.
Never forget it. It’s part of your path. I don’t mean that in a bad way.
Your Dad is a legend 🤝
Unfortunately the civil war has come back to Ethiopia
My grand-grandpa fought vs Nazis at WW2 as a Soviet soldier and he never told me any stories about it, I could only read an articles about him. The only good thing, that happened during that dark time was that he met my grand-grandma at the hospital where he got after being shot by a nazi in a cqb - she was a nurse, taking care of him.
Read my comment.
Aside from Fallujah in Iraq and operation Red wings in Afghanistan most of the combat in the Middle East consisted of calling in airstrikes after taking contact for 10 minutes. The war in Ukraine is completely different and on a whole nother level. It's a REAL war.
Totally agree. None in our generation have seen a country get invaded from all sides in this scale. 750 missils the first day. And many of them some really heavy ones
Exactly air support did decide the outcome
in ukraine u get called for air strike
It's just entirely different. I think it is important to remember that after the initial invasions which we won easily, we were fighting an insurgency in Afghanistan and Iraq the entire time, not a country's actual military. More Russians have died in a month in Ukraine than we lost in Iraq/Afghanistan combined in 20 years. Even that is still minuscule when you consider there were one day battles in the world wars that lost more people than all other wars in history combined. Really insane when you think about it.
@@johnhelton9533 USA troops are not ready for russia who is number 2 in the world the skirmish in ukraine is mainly about
Killing Nazi azov in ukraine army
Crippled ukraine so it won't try to join NATO
Liberate parts of ukraine for Russian separatist
It’s insane to me that someone would go to another country to fight a war that has no consequences for their own country and potentially die there
That’s because they’re mercenaries
Fun fact, Geneva convention doesn’t apply to mercenaries.
The power of propaganda. Mind control.
Money
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My Father was a Korean War Veteran and in the 44 years my Father was my Parent(RIP-2006)he only spoke briefly four times about his experiences in War. My Father was a Captain in the infantry and one time my Father said there was three things that stood out to him in War. My Father said #1 Brutally of War, #2 The Children of War and #3 the odors of death. A tear rolled down my Father’s face after he said this as not another word was said!
You described my Russian grandfather who was a soldier in the WW2...
You stole that from cod 4
Deeep
The children of war and the odors of death-that is truly chilling
My grandpa was in Korea and didn't ever talk about it. He did mention that it was freezing during the winter which says a lot since he's from Northern Michigan.
Translation: I went there believing mainstream media that Ukraine was winning and that I could pick off Russians fighting on bow an arrows. The reality was that it was Afghan in reverse, with me playing the part of Taliban.
True. Most of these westerners go there to take photos and come back .because of their high casualties rate the Ukrainians don’t even want to give them any roles even to those who are Iraq and Afghanistan veterans. They’re not trained for this kind of war fare and most are also relegated to training conscripts. I wonder what training they give to them considering themselves not experienced in such wars. Besides negotiating to release western POWs are extremely difficult.
yep, they have been sold this idea that russian soldiers are a bunch of incompetent drunks, but nothing more far from the truth
@@michaelfaraday8391
They're quite well trained for this, it's just that the other side is also sufficiently trained and equipped. Unlike those manhunts in the desert.
Not bows, shovels
@@aziaevand washing maschine..What a propaganda in west...This is not Rambo movie it is war...
My neighbour's grandson was killed in the war in Ukraine. He had military training but had never seen combat before.
from what country ?
Like lamb to the slaughter. So sad to hear. We really need to educate our kids on geo-politics if we want to save them from our lying war hawks politicians. Sadly we only have a very few good politicians and Journalists who been stifled, discredited and in some cases thrown in jail on false allegations. Not a fan of Trump but just look at the crazy unfounded allegations made against him because he’s stood up against the neocons.
@@CENOBITEHOUSE From France
@@guil7290 poor kid
bullets and arty dont care how much training you have , least discriminating things on the planet
You’re fighting one of the most advanced armies in the world.
laughable. Russia's corruption is the main problem in their army
And one of the most brutal. Nobody has ever said: “Russian soldiers - those guys hate war. Always stop fighting at the first opportunity.”
People forget they put an end to the third reich
@@wellthatsokay8582man, don't listen what media says to you, it's total lie.
Generally slavs special Russian (in ukrain and in Russia) are mentally best solders in the world in whole history of European wars. From start estern roman emperors hire them "varjags" to protect imperor, they dont go from clashes, they fight to death.
Every normal person hate war, but when you are there, you fight. Lot of ukrainian guys are mobilised, and they families are in Russia, Russian , but they fight to the death. Paradox.
In former yugoslavia, we all have same ruth, but war was brutal, suported by all nato states, to desolve that big country like treat geopoliticly.
@@wellthatsokay8582that’s not even the worst. If you get really bad luck you encounter Chechens or Mongolians. Good luck
I had the privilege of going to a barbershop as a kid owned by a bunch of WW2 vets. None of them said the word hero. My dad who is a Korean war vet has never talked about what he went through and never claimed to be a hero.
Victims is the only thing war creates.
The ones who talk all the smack and remind us daily that they are vets are the REMFs that never saw any action. You volunteered, not my problem you got an infected hang nail 500 miles from any action. The ones that got their butts shot off won't talk about it unless you ask.
My father was the same. He passed before my mother and my brother and I didn’t know my father was a Sargent until we went through all the paperwork.
My family was the same both grandads my grandmother 3 uncles never said the word hero. They all served all came back kind of.
Well that's a first I can think back 50 + years speak about war veterans who served in the first and second world war who spoke about it and one thing they said if we ever forget the awfulness of War it will repeat itself,and the story my mum spoke about my grandad in the Battle of the Somme was about rats the size of cats coming out of men's bodies with flash still in their mouth is a very important lesson we must never be forgotten about the battlefields of the the Great War and many other Wars that are followed and through my experience and life men have spoken about their experience on the battlefield not one of them have boasted about being a hero quite the opposite and got very upset when they spoke about this memories they told me it is very important we never forget what war is about . I don't mean to be a pessimist God help us all for what were about to experience in these coming events WW111
Victims & nightmares😪😪😪
Having done four tours, even I know better. It is one thing to go into battle with every advantage, in all domains, but this is a whole different ball game. I often feel that what I have done over two decades is akin to Combat Tourism, like the guy who goes on Safari with a staff of trackers, guards, guides and high tech equipment. This, however is like going on Safari with a spear, a knife, and a one armed local tribesman that you are not sure you can trust.
Well put, I feel the same
four tours couldnt have been too bad sounds like a vacation,dont imagine too many signing up for a second round if they survived the first fighting a modern army @@CanKicker68
thats a perfect comparison...
You just described perfectly my 2 deployments during Operation Barkhane. It feels like canned hunting.
"its one thing to go into battle exclusively to pick on weaker people..." lol you dont say
This is a completely different war compared to Iraq, Afghanistan, and many others. The russians have a lot of artilery, rockets, a strong airforce and a shietload of tanks. It's not like in previous wars, where your biggest concern were snipers and landmines...
8,392 Russians were killed in Ukraine ,tell me how only the west forgot ? Russia hasn’t these casualties since 1970s .
@@dcoing1907 i don't belive this number, from my informations is much lower but nevertheless, most of the soldiers fighting there are not even russians, they are members of different nations living in Russia, from very poor comunities so the gouvernment doesn't give a shiet about them.
@@georgepopescu1327 , They are living in Russian federation,it is their country. Every country is a mix of different people. But do not forget 60% of Ukraine are Russian speakers. Ukraine government is a puppet state of the west. For 8 years they have attacked Russian in the east Ukraine,and videos we have seen about Azov nazis practices is beyond imagination. Pure evil.
Russia has best army in the world...most of the news western press spread about war are fake news ...
@@georgepopescu1327 not true
The US is like a boxer who builds up his resume 20-0 on inferior opponents and then comes out to fight Mike Tyson. NOT GOOD.
Love it. If America was a person it would be Jake Paul.
Lmao accurate 😂😂
Pretty sure the United States could make some noise if needed.
Please, Russia is not Mike Tyson and they are not fighting the US, they are fighting Ukraine with a few American volunteers.
If Russia faced the US directly, then it would be them facing a Mike Tyson, the US would take them out in the first round.
@@johngeiger3770 LOL, Russia isn't fighting the US dummy, it's fighting Ukraine. The US would decimate Russia if we fought them directly.
Yep, fighting an army as opposed to farmers in Asia or Middle East isn't the same thing.
US lost the war fighting against Asian farmers in Vietnam. 🤣
Before US France also lost badly in Vietnam
"Asian farmers"...boy those vietcong women would whoop yo ass to sleep.@@hlwanmoe1981
@@hlwanmoe1981 Vietnam fought 3 global powers within 3 decades and won (France, US, and China). If the US couldn't win that war, nobody could have.
@lamduong5701 u could be right, but this isn't game, there's probably another country that can defeat viet, a country that also mastered in guerilla
You are right, this not iraq or Afghanistan. This is Russia
This is UKRAINE .
@@motorrebellnot for long
@@superiorshotgun4348for long and always will be and you just should of ended up in toilet but your father decided to keep u and now we have degenarate😂
@@motorrebellFor how much longer? Ukraine is a big parking lot and very soon Russian
So you support Russia?@@superiorshotgun4348
If there is one thing happening here that is significant is that Russia is gaining huge amounts of positive experience for any future conventional war.
Russia doesn’t need nor want this experience- it’s in our genes but we don’t want war nor we want to fight - we went to protect Russians who were asking for help for 8 years🔥
@@MsLS8Эта старая методичка уже больше смешит людей, поменяй 😂
@@MsLS8 😂 wow easy there Rambo
@@amir32806не можете оспорить? Поэтому отговариваетесь
Russia's most experienced soldiers and special forces are.. gone. And thats the only way I can say it without having my comment deleted. The only ones gaining experience from this are the military brass that don't actually go to Ukraine.
It’s the Job of Politicians to settle this matter with Russia. If they refuse to do their Job, then they should fight in the Frontlines. No Yong man should risk his life for wealthy people.
Your Politicians created this situation, with corrupt Ukraine to break up and steal Russia. Bunch of losers.Instead, the USA and Canada will break up.
politicians settled with hitler in 1938
For Blackrock interests
As a teenager I used to think war was 'cool'. I guess I played too many video games but as I got older I realized that war is a terrifying prospect for anyone involved.
Read my comment,
get your bushido spirit up, survivor of the fittest makes the best genes
@@howardlam6181 best genes as in deleting the weaker ones, enough Darwinsm as you'll be the first to dissappear
@@thalassaer4137 If that's the case, that's better for the world. Regardless of who disappear first, it will only help improve the human race.
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I was in ukraine last week helping along the polish/ukraine border when a young British soldier came up to me asking if I could help him cut in line to cross the border back into Poland. He said two of his friends died in the bombing and he didn’t want to fight anymore. I could tell he was beyond distraught, I felt so bad for the young guy, he wanted to help but ended up almost dying
so what happened , did y help him cross the border?
That's fucken crazy
@@theresemartin3920 he shot him
yeah thats the reality..many might want to go over there and be a hero or soemthing but the reality is theres a chanc eof dying and by that time its too late...leave it to the trianed professionals..its nice to help and want to help but myself being untrained and such id probabyl only be hindering the operations
Its better to defend your own country instead of their country because your gonna waste your life for nothing
Five second summary, minus dark background music: Ukraine is cold, it sucks being cold, you could be killed while cold. And if you don't have prior experience soldiering, and a weapon, you could be useless on top of being cold and dead.
Thanks so much for saving me 2.20 min of my life :)
When you will be there, your heart will explode with fear to loose and no future
It is easy to type here on UA-cam
@@5SecnHack Imagine all the people...
And what he covertly hints at is, in Ukraine you will face a conventional army - with artillery, air support and cruise missiles...
I'm utterly shocked people with experience are surprised by this when I knew it before the war kicked off.
So many excellent comments for this story. I am truly appreciative of your insights.
I am retired Army. No-one can feel what they feel unless you are there with them.
Im not a johnny hero !! Are you? No , you are not... But over twenty years in an infantry brigade I would believe that I might know a little about it. The guy or girl next to you is your brother or sister...They are your Dr. when you get hurt..They are friends when you need one the most...They will never desert you in time of need.. We are the most humanitarian Armed Forces in the world. No, I am not a JOHNNY HERO but I know a few personaly ...
Yep if there’s one thing humans are incapable of it’s understanding and comprehension
And honest truth, I don't want to be there to feel that feeling.
@@dennyhess2296 Who are you referring to "we the most humanitarian armed forces"?
I feel with my fingers!!!!!!! Denny you a bad ass dude. I love you.
But Elensky asked to arm these civilians to fight to the last Ukranians. He is a hero to the west. Didn't you see the clappings and standing ovations given to him by all the western world leaders.
And he is also taking their money for his houses all around the world, his wife's jewelry and a medals for nazi soldiers.
Because they Others Side ist Russia, ITS Not about Ukraine , it's about Russia...Ukraine was an ignored country before this war...Most of people don't know where is located, which Language,religión etc it have...sorry but nobodys Care of Ukraine , the important Point ist to wecken Russia even they know Russi will ein
Zelensky is an idiot, he´s 50% responsible for all this mess. Putin gave him every chance to make a deal for almost two years but he laugh at the Russian ( I have the USA and UK behind me, the Russian wouldn´t dare to invade Ukraine)...now is too late.
Because he's making them rich.
Он клоун и он будет судим трибуналом , если доживёт до окончания конфликта
Captured foreign volunteers and mercenaries are treated far worst by the enemies.
For good reasons. Those that seek war are usually low intelligent, brutes, psychopaths or all of that.
why are they any worse than native soldier pows?
Any evidence on what you claim, other than a question of belief?
@@sabitasahu3030 because that's none of thier business? And their country who do not directly involved in the war couldn't do anything to protect them...
@@sabitasahu3030 "Unlawful combatants"
Well this is the reality of fighting against an ACTUAL army instead of rebel groups with a couple of mortars and heavy weapons.
What did they think it would be like? They have no business being there in the first place. Too many people want to play soldiers.
Hollywood made this. Monkey see, monkey imitates. Humans are just
@@Kiyoone Hollywood made them go? Nah mate, they are grown adults, they made their own poor decisions.
I already experienced Iraq in the 2000s. One thing for sure is I´m not John Rambo or The Punisher. So 1 war is enough for me. It´s sad though because I learned to loved both countries over the years, and even learned Russian. Odessa was awesome, and I´ve been there 5 times.
Read my comment.
Thank you for loving on my people
You need to realise - Odessa is Russian city, formed by Katherine the Great. Russian and Ukrainians ARE THE SAME PEOPLE! Except for the West Ukrainians, who are mixture of Russina, Polish, Hungarians, Romanians, etc. Most of Ukraine is former Russian heritage - reason why all cities have Russian names! Ukraine itself was turned into "a country" in 1991. There was no Ukraine prior to that. Additional proof - there are no Ukrainian-language books or documents in history that date earlier then 1947 - This language was created artificially. This is reason why Ukrainians are Russian-speaking population. So those who divide Ukrainians and Russians, and trying to separate Ukrainians form Russian culture - are nuts.
@@digimaksA friend of mine immigrated to the US from somewhere in the Kiev region(don't remember the name of the town). Spoke Russian & always considered himself Russian, as did his whole family. Just one example, I know, but it doesn't fit the narrative the US media is selling.
Heroes are those that produce PEACE, no mercenaries create PEACE
100% correct
I agree, look what happened to wagner lol.
@user-gw7tx5sh7d Pajeet detected.
Mercenaries would be illegal combatants to the UK and the USA, so why do they think they would not be illegal combatants to the Russian Federation?
@user-gw7tx5sh7d Nice bot username
yeah , chasing slippers in a dessert was a 5-star war to this veteran .
and the flip flops beat them in 20 years the yanks and british held afghan now look gone back to stone age again
Which dessert? Cake or ice cream?
@@chris-te2pt so skip the soviets then huh ??
@@fightingstreet23 never skipped they got there butt hurt only cus cia was giving them weapons
I like how he doesn’t take a side. I’m paraphrasing, “Know what you are getting into. Do your due diligence. If you don’t have experience...think twice.”
Neither NATO nor the US or UK are officially in this war. The (former) soldiers going there are mercenaries. You can earn good money over there. Around 1000 to 2000 dollars per day depending on your experience. The problem is, that these mercenaries are used to fight untrained people with AK47 in some dessert village after bombing the whole country for 40 days. This is how the US usually does it. This time it is different. They are fighting a well trained profesisonal army that is probablsy winning without air support. It is not only the weather. The job is really much harder this time. That is what he is warning other mercenaries about.
@@carlosschaafygarcia884 idk where do you get the info about money, but your info about the Russian army is a bit off. They are trained, but not well enough. Also most of their elite units are already below the ground. The problem is, there is just too many of them, and they are merciless toward the civilians. It's a horde, and they have no regard about their own soldiers.
@@TheKitMurkit The problem you have with your claims is that the WEF puppet actor Zelenski has armed the civilians, therefore HE, and he alone has created the situation whereby the Russian forces now have no alternative but to treat every adult as a threat, and every building as a legitimate target.
You really need to look far further afield to understand this situation. That policy is calculated to cause mass civilian casualties. Nothing else.
@@TheKitMurkit, you refute his claims with your own sourceless claims, lol. This war seems to care less and less about reality and more about whatever information the side you support is pushing.
@@MarigotZoe13 watch Patrick Lancaster
Infantry units must fight as a well-coordinated team. They must quickly respond to orders without hesitation in moments of extreme stress and violence. Just because you can field strip and shoot an AK accurately at a target does mean you are qualified to be a combat rifleman. Most of these volunteers would better serve the Ukrainian cause as support personnel.
@gringott12 Don't fight it...just let it happen to you. Sure, Putin's cheerleaders also tell you not to fight your rapists. It's not so bad...just let it happen.
A team will always beat a collection of individuals. Which is why armies were invented.
An armed mob may have the advantage of fighting without any surviving commanding officers.
More than just following orders blindly. You need to be trained and know what you're doing and the person giving the orders need to know what they're doing. Nothing like charging a squad through a door while taking fire through said door during a training exercise because you want to advance forward and complete the objective, but not knowing where the enemy is on the other side and losing people from an impulsive charge. People would be better off fighting on their own than with a badly managed team hamstrung by bureaucracy.
@gringott12 in Ukraine, what would you call the civilians fighting tooth and nail (and winning!) for their homeland and the right to be free from a tyrannical, authoritarian ego maniac? An armed mob?
I don't understand why anyone would go to fight for Ukraine.
They wouldn't do it for us.
Ukraine. Ukraine allowed use of its airspace and airbases to the US and its allies, but only for cargo flights. Ukraine is a participant in the NATO led International Security Assistance Force in Afghanistan and has deployed troops as part of NATO's ISAF mission to the country.
I just did a google search, copied and pasted, the interweb is amazing.
@@Johnnosmitho so they fought in a criminal injust war that just led to more destruction in the middle east? great I guess
@@Johnnosmitho Russians allowed that too. But US mistook goodwill of RF for weakness like nation of narcissists, thieves and slavers.
Good bot
@@ievgenmajor3301so you support corrupt nazis? Interesting
WAR DECIDES WHO'S LEFT, NOT WHO'S RIGHT !!!
What if someone will come to kill you for your nationality? Your plan is staying home and waiting?
@@alexanderx2439 i only said what war decides, not what someone should do
No, there is right and wrong ! For Russia ,they're wrong !
@@larrylamb3480 they are, but war decides only who's left
I think what he means of this is history is written by the victors
Now that the lines have somewhat stabilised, they've started dividing the international volunteers there based on competence. Trained combat vets get assessed on their skills before being assigned to a unit of their speciality while untrained applicants are now being put on a waitlist pending further needs.
Ultimately the biggest value of the international volunteers isnt capability but morale. According to people I've talked to, the mere physical presence of a foreigner even if doing something mundane like checkpoint duty has been very reassuring to local Ukrainians in reminding them that the world knows their plight and is backing them up.
After all its one thing to change your facebook profile picture or donate money from afar or even send weapons, but leaving the safety of your home to enter an active warzone and risk your life standing side by side with a complete stranger against a common foe? That resonates, especially to people who have hit rock bottom and lost everything.
EDIT: They are currently not accepting volunteers unless they have VERIFIABLE combat experience, apparently the number of combat vet volunteers has been so much they are upping the requirements.
thats what you get when you vote for a comedian actor to be president, who dissolves government, silences all other right wing parties, and proceeds to poke the bear. you will lose everything. everything is about leadership, whether personal or national or global. an incompetent fool will bring his country to rubble by his decisions and ego. and now trying so hard to manipulate them to enter the war against russia, which no country on earth is willing to, to sacrifice their people for his decision.
@@jonasokiveta5924 russian bot
Yes, mental fitness of the Ukrainians at this point is just as important as skills, because if your heart don't believe you can do it, everything becomes 100 times harder. That goes for anything...
@@jonasokiveta5924 "Everybody should roll over when invaded because otherwise people will die" - Your Logic
@@jonasokiveta5924 would you say the same about Ronald Regan? I wonder how bots like you still exist. The only country left crawling here will be Russia due to a pointless endless war it has created for itself. Failed in afgan, failed in Syria sna now failed in Ukraine. Reducing a country to rubble isn't liberating anything other than bricks and morter.
Not speaking the language is a BIG disadvantage when under fire.
But Ukrainian soldiers know a little English I bet. "You point"
@@Mardasee lol. u even been to europe hahaha
@@Hello-gw5lg Yes, Checkpoint Charlie days.
Ukraine is in top5 in the IT industry, most young guys speak English. I've never been there, but I've met Ukrainian refugees in Bucharest and had a chat with Dima. Very good English, probably they've learned it for the same reasons us Romanians did: jobs in IT corporations, games, movies.
If you go to a different part of the world you shouldn't expect them to speak your language, but you to speak theirs, right? :-) I learned some Italian when I visited Italy, some Croatian for Croatia, and so on.
The Ukrainians tend to put foreign volunteers into units where they all speak the same language. Since a lot of the combat has involved guerrilla tactics, these units have freedom to move and fight as they choose.
*They went looking for action and got what they deseved.*
It amazes me how easily the media can whip people into a frenzy over things, and make them lose all reason.
Those people were already weak to begin with.
Media is creating a frenzy, an emotion (anti Russia), a point of view, as per the government wish. But it cannot calibrate it.
@@mrityunjaytripathi5588 Yeah, I can see it everywhere. Anti-Russian sentiment is all over social media. Ukraine = good. Russia = bad. I bet the vast majority of the Russian military don't actually want to be there.
@@curt3494 Russian military had to come to secure their country's future. I never understood the West's hatred for Russians. It never lessened. It's Obama who gave the idea of Ukaraine's NATO membership. Now Ukraine is suffering.
Russians, with their experience, know that there cannot be anything like occupation. Their idea is to destroy Ukraine's infrastructure. And they have been successful in that. They have 'liberated' Luhansk and Donetsk. They have also destroyed the dam that Ukraibe had built, which had destroyed 90% of Crimea's agriculture. Ukraine could have taken a lesson from the loss of Crimea in 2014, but it didn't.
If Russia didn't care about civilian deaths, it would have done lot more damage, lot earlier.
Theur typical modus operandi is to encircle a city and announce safe passage and safe time for passage. Once that time passes, whoever is left is a combatant. That's why Ukrainians were not letting people leave. Now Ukrainians are placing their ammunition in civilian buildings and firing feom there. The retaliation is obvious.
Both sides are dishing out their own propaganda.
@@mrityunjaytripathi5588 Oh yeah, I totally agree either you. However, our media in the West is giving us a very one sided account of this conflict, and lying through omission.
Everyone should realise that going into a conflict like this as a 'foreign fighter' marks you as a 'mercenary' and, as such, removes any and all rights/protection normal soldiers would have in a combat situation.
That works both ways dude.
IIRC you also need to be paid more than a person in a similar role, rank and seniority to be considered a mercenary under international law. Then again the Russians probably won't care either way.
This is false. You should be ashamed of spreading lies. The law of war states, anyone who takes up arms and is clearly marked and embedded with a nation, deserves the same rights as any other national soldier.
They're volunteers. Mexicans who join the U.S. military aren't mercenaries.
Putin said that all non ukrainian soldiers or volunteers will be treated like mercenarys by the russian military units. So they could just shoot them even if they surrendered and have been taken as prisoner.
But when Putin invites his tchechen and syrian friends to join the russian side thats ok?! 🤦
I'm seeing this right after watching another clip regarding news of a British volunteer fighter who surrendered to Russian forces. Seriously, this guy speaks he truth that these foreign volunteer fighters don't even realize the kind of situation that they've just put themselves in.
US hasn't fought a peer enemy in 80 years. Russia is a whole different ballgame.
No one in his right mind should fight on the side of Ukraine...
Siberian is huge and beautiful landscape. Of the 190,000 prisoners of war by the German Sixth Army who were rearranged in Stalingrad, only around 5,000 came home alive, the others remained in Siberia. So that you are very welcome to experience it ;-)
hahahaha
We don't send prisoners of war to Siberia. Today we keep them in relatively good condition, including medical help. Number of Ukrianians who deserted or been captured - refuse to go back to Ukrainian side. besides- bigegr question arisse, why Ukrainian side shot down the Russian transport plane IL-76 that was carrying Ukrainian POW, which were intended for prisoner swap!?
As a resident of Stalingrad(now its Volgograd), i am surprised to hear that it is located in Siberia.
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They deserve to end up in Siberia and nothing else. I have never claimed that Stalingrad is in Siberia but that prisoners of war from the 6 Armè ended up there and Nazis from the former Ukraine deserve the same fate. Greetings from Serbia and I hope to come to your city one day.
You are right about the POWs of the AFU. But they are also mostly russians and they are soldiers, not mercenaries who do not fall under the Geneva Convention. Roughly and theoretically speaking, mercenaries can be shot on the spot without trial if they are recognized as unnecessary for exchange or are found guilty of war crimes. I don't think our military eliminate such captives, but the mercenaries have no rights and no hope definitely.
There is about a ten to one ratio for support and the troops actually shooting bullets. There was a clip about a week ago revealing that the Ukrainian's are fully aware that some people are just not suited for battle (one of the reasons they were looking for people with battle experience first) and the chap pointed out that many people volunteering to fight were simply not up to it and wouldn't be allowed to do so. Those people will likely find themselves helping civilians, running supplies, looking for bodies in the rubble of downed buildings etc. etc. etc. and would form part of that 9 person support group supporting the one with the rifle. Hence while the video is accurate from a pure battle perspective, it completely misses the idea that only one in ten actually shoots the bullet and their contribution is both valuable and critical.
Absolutely nothing wrong with providing support.
not everyone is capable of taking a life without batting an eyelid, but everyone can make a contribution to the defence effort.
They already have their own civilians willing to help. Thousends of Ukrainians came home from abroad when the war started. I doubt they need to import more clueless people who do not even speak the language.
In WW2 only 1 in 4 front line infantry shot at the enemy, and 1 in ten shot to kill. Modern training in the west has got that up to 85%! Problem is that it is done by company unity, muscle memory, and (there isn't a better way to describe this) indoctrination into us and them. And most people when back in the real world find it hard to legitimize killing even an enemy. The fact is most of the Russian troops would rather be anywhere else than the Ukraine, it is only Pathetic Little Pipsqueak Putin and his arse kissers who wanted this war. Slava Ukraine.
One of the few Dutchmen that went into Ukraine returned after one day, because Ukrainians were going to use him as cannon fodder.
yeah Russia is a country that can fight back...not like all the rest...thank goodness mighty Russia is back...
You have echoed my thoughts exactly. I have commented about this on other videos and been shot down for it. People have good intent but absolutely no clue of what they are heading into. Being a soldier is a skill. Skills aren't learnt in 5 minutes. Life is not a computer game.
you are right ... it is not a game but these people in Ukraine don't have time to learn !! They have to learn OJT.. I was well trained but too old for this round of punches unless it strikes home. Then my game begins !!
CORRECTLY called "Putin's" cheerleader.
"Life is not a computer game."
Someone needs to tell Putin this. The spoilt baby is trying to play an empire building game, but this is real life, with real life consequences.
The problem is, he was born into an Authoritarian system, and such systems _infantalise_ their populations, so they don't grow up properly (hence one of the oldest civilisations on the planet, the Chinese, having a government that sound and act like Cartman).
Putin is mentally like a child, he's not a proper adult, and I fear there's little hope of him growing up now, so it would be better for Russia, let alone the rest of the world, if he had a little accident.
It's not Call of duty, paintball or air soft. If you don't have skills to bring to the table stay home and donate your money instead of wasting it on a flight and becoming a nuisance not a help. God bless Ukraine and all who fight
Here are the problems with the Ukraine 🇺🇦 war:
(1) lack of military training for volunteers and lack of proper firearms safety and handling.
(2) lack of weapons, ammunitions, medical supplies, clothing, vehicles, water, fuel, etc.
(3) lack of or complete logistics of Russian military abilities and capabilities.
(4) lack of communication due to the fact there are currently 65 nations representing in the volunteers or foreign fighters. With all the various languages and dialects, there are over 165 languages among volunteers and foreign fighters.
My father was a WWII veteran who fought in northern Africa and through Italy up to the Battle of Cassino, then was a POW in a German prison camp for a year. He rarely spoke about his experiences, and if he did he never glorified it in any way, and usually limited it to humorous anecdotal things that had happened. It was probably his way of coping. Once in a while he'd get persuaded to attend local VFW meetings, and he always said it was the members who never saw any combat who'd speak of the guts, glory, and heroic drama on the battlefield. and how that the few who members who actually did see combat were always quiet about it.
I thought the same as I was reading your comment. It had to be those who never saw a real fight or weren't in real danger who are/were glorifying the terrors of war. The problem is just, that all these young people who are reading their books and are listening to their ramblings didn't know that these "soldiers" were never in a real fight. And it's always these infantile older men who are the loudest who are calling to action.
" ...he never glorified it in any way, and usually limited it to humorous anecdotal things that had happened." - My grandfather was also involved in the Battle of Cassino. (He'd also been at Dunkirk and El Alamein, served from the very start to the very end.) Also like your grandfather he never mentioned anything very often, and all his anecdotes usually involved him, friends, wine, and some sort of mischief.
I keep saying this: if you don't have combat experience, do not go to the front lines. I admire your emotional bravery but war isn't the place to test out your resolve. Even for combat vets, the lack of coordination, training and equipment from a gathering ofnragtag groups of men and women of all different ages, sizes and capabilities will hinder an operation. It's no joke. Also, this time, there is no rear detachment for support or even air support. Not even medical support too! You are on your own. You are now the insurgent.
Nah let all these reddit warriors go right on over.
Ehh, wars historically were always like that. Conscripts, no training and experience, and full of confusion. Civilians, farmers etc banding together. Humanity knows how to adapt. Birth of the Ukrainian Foreign Legion. Just like the French Foreign Legion.
You keep saying it to who? Like anyone is listening to you 🤦🏼♂️ away back to your Reserve training weekend you wetter
@@SuperVesuvius Historically, because people jumped off of bridges, let's keep encouraging others to do the same. 🙄
@@michaellim4165 who said anything about encouraging? All I'm saying is if they want to, let them. Won't be the first, and certainly won't be the last. The world won't end, nor would humanity go extinct, because civilians chose to go to a war zone.
As a US Army vet, I would strongly encourage any Vet "tempted" to go fight this war that NATO and Washington started, to consider putting that energy into adjusting the attitude of our overrun Government. Going to fight on behalf of the Nazis in the Ukraine will only make you an accessory to a war crime. A crime us actual vets, fully intend to see punishment given to all who participated.
So, behave accordingly out there.
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Уважение тебе из России 🇷🇺
Здраво мыслишь
My grandfather used to say , if you dig a hole deep enough, you will either find a young man who died for his county or a poor man who got killed by him.
I agree with this, I am a former 68W/75thID (Iraq/Afganistan) and there is a reason we train in an enviornment before we deploy, to aclamate to the combat enviornment. I salute the courage to fight but without the training you are at best cannon fodder, at worst you may end up being or causing fratricide. War is not a game, there are never winners, and no one in it comes out whole.
Nice you went and fought for USA imperialism and filling the pockets of the top 1 percent. Good job destroying a region and then pretending like it wasnt your fault.
🙏🏼❤️ amen. That's the truth.
VERY TRUE !!! From someone that is very close with a VET and made it my work to be an advocate for PTSD.
I won't ask what you did in Iraq/Afgan (probably brought some democracy there), but it's quite strange to see international mercenaries in a place completely detached from them (like it's not their country sending them there, it's just for the money). So... Yeah, strange
People flock to wars now from across the planet, we’ve seen this in Syria and Ukraine for the last decade. Could be as simple as people simply want to or enjoy it.
A guy who rents from me was in ukraine helping in the beginning. He has returned back now and when I asked him if everything was okay he said that the war in ukraine is like no other war he has ever been in he said you could smell the fear of the young guys that had never fought like this before. The anger of fathers forced to stay and fight by ukraine forces in his opinion he said ukraine is talking bull that they will defeat the russians he Saud the russians fight with no rumors and that he is going back but not to fight but look for some of his dead friends. His message to anyone wanting to go and fight is don't you will die are you will watch your friends die he would rather go do another tour of Iraq then fight in ukraine. This gentleman has changed so much from his time in Afghanistan but his soul seems broken from his short time in ukraine
That’s because he’s now in a real war, and on the side of evil. War isn’t so easy and fun when your enemy actually has a realistic chance of killing you and you have to actually go fight instead of playing video games on base all day.
@@Mortablunt no good or evil in war, just poor peoples who fight for rich peoples and make them richer, that's the hard reality of war
Sad but true.
@@Mortablunt yeah most definitely facts it's the first Morden war and the Americans know they are not ready to go to war with Russia
@@ecarlateYoure arguing with a russian bot who get paid to posts this kind of comments
"The Grave" by Don McLean
The grave that they dug him had flowers
Gathered from the hillsides in bright summer colours,
And the brown earth bleached white at the edge of his gravestone.
He's gone.
When the wars of our nation did beckon,
A man barely twenty did answer the calling.
Proud of the trust that he placed in our nation,
He's gone,
But Eternity knows him, and it knows what we've done.
And the rain fell like pearls on the leaves of the flowers
Leaving brown, muddy clay where the earth had been dry.
And deep in the trench he waited for hours,
As he held to his rifle and prayed not to die.
But the silence of night was shattered by fire
As guns and grenades blasted sharp through the air.
And one after another his comrades were slaughtered.
In morgue of Marines, alone standing there.
He crouched ever lower, ever lower with fear.
"They can't let me die! They can't let me die here!
I'll cover myself with the mud and the earth.
I'll cover myself! I know I'm not brave!
The earth! the earth! the earth is my grave."
The grave that they dug him had flowers
Gathered from the hillsides in bright summer colours,
And the brown earth bleached white at the edge of his gravestone.
He's gone.
My Grandad will tell you that too. Gassed, Trench fever and never mind being shoot at, then the lingering nightmares till his death in 1963. I got frostbite once just working in a cold place and that's a really bad being cold with no way of getting to a warm place is the worst thing that can happen - apart from being shoot at as well.
Yes the constant extreme cold will give you a worse death than anything else. In WW2 Germany lost more men to hyperthermia than gunshot or mortar attack wounds. Soldiers literally frozen in positions still holding their rifles in firing positions.
That generation knew something about war. Probably would never have hurried to get into another one without some very serious reason.
Shot*
@@matty6848 HypOthermia. And few of you, i imagine have, as I,lifted the body of a single dead with the rigor mortis that ensues within a couple hours. After weeping for one for a few short moments, you will find years of desire to learn how to end this thing in a skilled manner. The most pain outside of permanent injury or acute, awake wounds, is when frostnipped extremities are returning to circulation.
Just imagine how horrible it was for the men during the Revolution and the Civil war. I went on a bus trip once to Gettysburg and we were told more men died of the cold, infections and starvation than did by getting shot.
Even being a fully trained combat soldier doesn't prepare you for the reality of war. As an ex infantry combat veteran, I would never willingly put myself into that situation. I just feel for all the poor souls dragged into this mess. Because at the end of the day it's all about money.
A lot of money.
and lots of oil
It’s beyond money
Or oil
It’s about ego & power
Oil, gass and power.
For some, maybe. But for Ukrainians it is about their survival as a free nation. I'm a Ukrainian, who is in Antarctica now. My shift is over in a week or so, then I am about to return to Ukraine to participate in opposing the enemy who wants to destroy my country. I have an option to stay almost in any country in the world of my liking. But my choice is to return home when it is on fire. Because it's not for money, it's about existential threat to my homeland.
I heard from an interview of an US vet AZOV volunteer that fought in Mariupol early in the war saying that they are in fact the peasants in sandals now.
This is why only trained personnel should attempt to travel over there... my experience in the Falklands taught me how to deal with the cold inhospitable surroundings. It is far from glorious and takes a lot of resolve to survive. Go if you must, but its no bed of roses...
I disagree, determination beats any experience. You get a crash course in modern warfare then only your luck determines how long you stay in service, but it applies to everyone.
God bless you brit gentlemen US Army
No pleasure cruise
Tell us your military story when you were in the falkland doing battle against the argentinians
@@ursus9104 Yeah you obviously have never been to war,
Anyone who has been shot at knows the feeling. Only through repetitive training and faith in: Command, Equipment, Comrades, Purpose can you truly overcome that initial fear. Anyone not having these will struggle. This man is not a coward, just a fish out of water, he no longer had what he knew, to deal with. Those brave international volunteers must take what training they know and adapt and not impose their knowledge on the situation, but allow the environment to extend their abilities. So say I with 30years military/operational experiences.
Faith in direct command was never an issue but civilians running the show means one thing.
Thank you for your service. Best regards friend.
22 years military experience to include combat I couldn't agree with you more
@@ernestpaniagua1210
Thank you for your service friend.
@@mikeyob4271 it was a honor to serve you and the rest of this country .
I'm an Army veteran from the 1980's, now 58 years old and not in great shape. I was not a grunt, I was in small arms repair, and guns have continued to be my main hobby all my life. I even worked for a major gun manufacturer for a few years. My civilian career as a machinist only adds to my useful expertise. So I would seriously consider going over there if I could be processing incoming small arms somewhere near the Polish border. Preferably on the Polish side!
Yeah, who hasn't had Rambo daydreams looking at that stalled convoy? But I know I'd be in the way and my young kids (second marriage) might get left without a dad.
Unless a clear position for me to help with small arms appears, the best thing I can do is keep working at my job here and send as much money as possible to charities supporting the Ukrainian military or refugees. So far I've sent $2500, and I plan to send another $500 when I get paid at the end of this week. I've also contacted my congressman and senators, and I take part in protests to keep other people aware of what is going on.
Edited many days later to say that I had some brand new folding solar panels with USB and 18 Volt outputs, and I just shipped off three of 60 Watt rating plus three of 120 Watt rating to Ukraine, earmarked for military use. Maybe worth $700 or so altogether? I paid the shipping to a freight forwarding service in the USA. Still looking for ways I can help. My sister has given "some money" to an organization feeding refugees along the Polish border... if I know my sister, "some money" means several thousand dollars.
Stop lying. You work at Wal-Mart.
Keep up your good work friend. I too am 58 and ex 1980s serviceman (uk). My Rambo dreams visit my head many times to go help the Ukrainian people but I’m still at home feeling angry about Putins Russia and so frustratingly sad for those civilians being treat the way they are.
Good will win over eventually I’m sure by the looks of those Ukrainian defenders 👍
I am flying a Ukrainian flag in my home and I am donating as and where I can. No matter what they have our hearts and respect. 👍🇬🇧🇺🇸🇺🇦💕🇷🇺🌈
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How about helping Palestine
Your money never made it to Ukraine you are very gullible..look at history of Ukraine..the media is lying to you foolish man
You never fought the real war against more advanced with technologies like Russia and china, you fought in Iraq, Afghan and Syria was not war but you fought with kids who cannot stand up defend.
The majority of these volunteers had no military training, they just watched several episodes of Rambo ,just tells you what the UKRAINE thought of them
If you're not combat experienced, don't go, period.
Stop the bloodshed! GOD is telling us that we are living in the END times, the world is on the brink of the 7year Tribulation. Please get rapture ready: accept JESUS CHRIST as your Lord and Savior today!!! Don't be deceived by the coming ANTIchrist who will "create order out of chaos"! Study biblical end times prophecy, listen to Dr. Ron Rhodes on end times chronology. Blessings from Alberta
@@albertafarmer8638 Yall have been saying the same thing for 2000 thousand years
@@albertafarmer8638 There are people in Ukraine and Russia saying the same thing. What kind of god would let this carnage to happen?
@@albertafarmer8638 No hell, no heaven, it's all just a illusion.
Know right, know wrong, live free of delusion. Every step we take is one toward death. Today may be the last sun that sets.
There is no paradise where there is no light. These dark ages breed forever night. It only takes one martyr to bring disaster. And war will reign forever after.
No time to waste on making amends. When it's all burned up in seeking revenge. Follow no leader that invokes your rage. Preserve the past and then turn the page.
@@albertafarmer8638 your god is nothing he was mad to control kings who controlled the people,rapture please Christians have split more blood on gods name than anyone in history
All I’m hearing from this is that decisions based on emotion are generally wrong.
People need to stop thinking with their feelings.
Maybe more a balance between rationality and emotions. Compassion isn't wrong, but one must think (also) rational with these extreme subjects.
Or at least, thats what i think. A bit of emotion isn't bad, but following it blind might be dangerous for you and your peers.
Even though I struggle with empathy and compassion I do agree that balance is always the answer.
Exactly.
Well, if you look at things as they really are, you might recognize that Putrin needs to be stopped, and you might recognize that he won't be stopped by NATO. He will only be stopped by individuals on the ground willing to sacrifice themselves for a better world.
@@user-cx5ni7me6l Yeah. That's why we now calculate intelligence based on the normal IQ, plus emotional intelligence.
Thanks for posting 💙🙏
Emotional warriors trained on Call of Duty... volunteer cannon fodder. Untrained, inexperienced and unfortunately will meet the fate of the unprepared. Tragic really.
Actually those who trained in Battlefield prepared much better.
This may be one of the few differences to 30 years ago
Yes of course, all knowledge, skill, and survivability, can only come from a government issued training.. people by nature are incompetent at all tasks when not trained and licensed by a government...
If this is not your war, then you have no business in Ukraine, unless your paid security or with a legitimate humanitarian organization. What's wrong with people? Can they not separate the gaming world from reality? I served 8 years in the army, and I would not set foot on that soil as a foreign insurgent. The side you are fighting with will have no loyalty toward you. Food and ammo rations will go to local fighters first. The "suicide" missions, however, will be assigned to you first. You will be disposable. Maybe lose your life, to draw mortar fire, so the Ukraine army can see where it's coming from. Just stay home. If you must fight and risk your life, do it for your family, or your freedom. Something that has a reason.
“Foreign Insurgent?” Foreigners who serve in Ukraine’s International Legion are Regular Enlistees in the Ukrainian Army, not disposable cannon fodder. They get Geneva Conventions Cards and draw [modest] pay and everything a local UA soldier does.
There are 16,000 of them in-country so far. If they were being used like the Grunts in Halo are, well we’d hear about it by now and that would affect the Legion’s recruitment, wouldn’t it?
Information I heard in Canada was they have all the non-combat volunteers they can use. They said the process to sign up is through the Ukrainian Embassy. They also said they are only interested in those with military training and experience, to serve in the foreign brigades. People shouldn't travel there to sign up, but check with the embassy in their country first. The Ukrainian military organizer said they were only interested in people with military training, who know things like rules of engagement, military command and communication structure, and so on. So it isn't like the Spanish Civil War at all. People who only know how to operate a firearm and have a few survival skills are not the people they are looking for in the foreign brigades.
True, for instance they don't accept Africans because the law in most of Africa is you will be punished with a long jail sentence for 'being a mercenary' (even unpaid)
They would take anyone and use them as cannon fodder. And also they will make you sign a contract on indefinite time and if you try to leave you will be treated as a deserter.
That said, if you want to serve under Neo Nazis be my guest.
Harakiri. Wakeup people fighting against a superpower.
@@dquzmanovic not all of us are that stupid as to believe the whole "nazi"propaganda.
@@dquzmanovic that's a nice display of ignorance. You are the type they count on, believe everything you are told.
Why are you surprised?. It’s not a holiday camp. It’s a war. With a superpower.
totally agree with this guy, I was in the U.S. army as a tank gunner and got out right before the second gulf war and my 18 year old loader that I trained on my tank got killed by a sniper and my tank commander got his foot blown off by an IED...I was lucky to never have seen any of it!
what do you think before you take part in army is a disco for dancing ?
@@airfight10
Depends on the person. Some think that the military service pays for their education. Some have no other real option for employment. Some want to see the world and have an adventure.
The people who think of the possibility to be maimed don't sign up.
Yet that unfortunately is one of the risks and part and parcel of being a soldier.
The US army does not do conscripts anymore, so you sign up for that and there for have to accept potentially being exposed to such risk, even death.
@@Pikkabuu yes, and is stupid(and unfair) asf how a "1st world country" like the US still DONT have free college education for those who take the necessary scores. But they NEED to maintain the expensive college education, thats a way of attracting cannon fodder for the armed forces.
In my country the best colleges are free, the paid ones are for those who dont score enough, it should be this way in any decent country.
@@pagodebregaeforro2803
Identity politics in the US makes free college based on scores impossible. Furthermore, there are plenty of college graduates with worthless degrees working in retail stores. Airlines strongly prefer flight attendants to have university degrees. There is not a shortage of university trained people. There is a shortage of trained skilled people. University degrees are FAR overrated and are expensive because students can get govt. guaranteed loans regardless of academic ability. Finally, there is no "FREE" anything. Someone is paying. Why should taxpayers finance your education? Why shouldn't they finance an plumber's or electrician's education?
Your right, but for the Vets that fought in the beginning from 2001 to 2004, we did just that.We had no Fobs waiting for us, we made all of them with sand bags and Etools. My unit dug trenches in 2001 after taken Qhandahar during winter and then when we fought again in Iraq doing house clearing. SO yes experiences my differ.
Indeed
Yes they do!! Not a fun experience at all, they do differ.
brother thats true but we were still kids back then and damn near super human; we still trained to fight Ivan back in those days. we knew about hasty fighting positions every time you stop and if your were there longer than 12 hour start digging in and don’t forget 18 inches of overhead cover. these kids are different, smart but not as tough as we were overall and we can’t save then because we got old. hell it takes me 9 minutes to run a mile these days when i use to do it in 6 and i was the slow guy lol. prove me wrong; modern America gets its feeling hurt if you don’t vote the same, say women can be special forces too and don’t call bruce a woman. meanwhile this is a conventional war; we don’t have the mindset to handle this type of conflict anymore. our factories can’t retool and build planes hell we can’t get Americans to go back to work.
But you were still superior to the enemy in every possible way. No doubt the experience sucked in many ways, but it could have sucked one hundred times more.
Read my comment..
I spent years (as a civilian) in remote, unsupported locations, often conflict zones. Most western ex. military, even combat veterans, that I have worked with were used to an immense and competent command and support structure, with equipment, food, shelter, medical and lots of tax dollars backing them up.
Add to this the likely lack of any language skills to integrate into a command structure, and the recently discharged squaddie is going to be a liability to others and danger to themselves. Maybe ex SFs with Russian language skills, medics/corpsmen and doctors/nurses, or expat Ukrainians could contribute. But the rest? Help refugees or make a donation instead.
Yeah im going into the red cross cause I dont have combat experience and I’d just be a liability
Slava Ukraini !
@@robuzytkownik7505 i curse the Nazis that murder their own people for 8 years. When i see another ukranian. Which i know plenty. I will look them in the eyes and tell them what evil tools they are. I will tell them that murdering women and children for 8 years is pretty evil.
They will be used by the Ukrainian administration to bolster the ranks at the front line... lambs to the slaughter.
Good point, well said👌
Fighting men in sandals made these people forget artillery and bombs is a big part of war.
😅😅😅
As an Army combat veteran, I completely agree with his statement where he said that all of you young new guys are just being a "hindrance" rather than being considered help! I agree with his statement because I myself was a paratrooper infantry soldier with more training and experience than other soldiers around me, so I had to instead continually worry about protecting either the new soldiers with little training or the young 18 years old volunteer afghan militia that we had patrolling along with us. Then, the situation was made even worse when had female army soldiers come over to visit us in order to cook for us and help us with medical treatment, but instead of fighting whenever they heard gun shots, they just dropped everything, including their rifles and either ran away or hid in the bunkers.
These female soldiers would also run toward me and beg me for protection while I was in the middle of returning fire to the Taliban, so then I had no choice but to stop what I was doing and instead focus on protecting these terrified female soldiers and also constantly keep an eye on the new soldiers and young afghan militia that had no idea what they were doing and often ran toward me, rather than to stay and shoot! Some of them even made so many mistakes that I almost got killed because of them, so I just could not rely on these people, even if I wanted to do so.
This is why I completely agree and support his statement on saying that young newbies from any nation should NOT be traveling to Ukraine to join the fight for any reason at all, specially not to try to be a hero because you will not only be a complete hindrance, but you can also get one of your own teammates hurt or killed as well, like what exactly happened to me on various occasions, whenever I had young newbies or females soldiers in my team.
This is not a game, this is life or death, so you need to suck up your pride and instead think with your head, rather than with your heart, or else the consequences can be very bad and I say this from multiple years of experience that I have in this matter, and not just because I want to talk or support any statement here! Don't play with your life, no matter how hardcore you feel like or no matter how sad you may also feel like as well! You will thank me later once you get older and see everything that you could have lost and all of the problems that you also have to deal with, simply because of the immature and unwise actions that you made when you were younger.
This message is not just for the young guys, it also goes out to any older people out there with no combat experience and also to females who have no combat training or to those females who have any doubt at all when it comes to dangerous situations or dealing with anyone's pain, because these doubts will eventually come out during combat and get others hurt very bad. So do not do it, even if at least for the sake of keeping others safe from your hindrance and mistakes!
Why do you write a novel just to demonstrate you are a hero and everybody else scared cowards?
I don't believe USA train female soldiers to chicken out under conflict, if so you are obliged to report such incidents, having clowns withdrawn from the battle ground.
I'm guessing you're not a feminist then lmao
@@richardnixon7248 there's feminism and there's realism. You can't charge a female with these type of roles. As you can't charge a man with other type of roles. Even a feminist would tell you the same thing
@@richardnixon7248 Body chemistry. Electric impulse, brain no work?
@@BillyBob-xr3tl I never made any arguments for or against any position. No need to get hysterical
This is different because you used to fight against small countries, easy for you to pick up on people un-armed. But now you see what it looks like to be bullied by a bigger one.
Exactly ! For the first time this « veteran « experiences what it feels like to fight a real army , and not play Rambo against unarmed bedouins.
They weren't fighting an enemy who was "unarmed".
@@zoltancsikos5604 They mostly fought against infantry. In a real war against a strong power? It's not something they experienced.
Check out Patrick Lancaster's reporting about the true situation in the Donbass region. It is real unedited reporting. Make your own research first and foremost.
best comment here, but they won't do that, they'd rather parrot the mainstream lies.
I’ve been wondering from the start, with literally millions of military age men, does Ukraine really need foreign volunteers? Also, I enlisted in the USMC in 1969 and was 0311 Rifleman , I’m here to tell you that combat isn’t nearly as much fun as an 18 year old thinks it is.
From one infantryman to another infantryman, I agree with you 100000%.
Unfortunately, Millennials and Generation Z played too many video games and watched too many action movies.
They have no idea what's in store for them once they get into a war zone.
Also, there are several Americans, former military men tells a not so rosy picture about the volunteers and foreign fighters in Ukraine.
Yes they need and it is making a differnce
To those who have seen combat, do you wish all of it had never happened?
Agreed. I'm currently a mere young adult with no war experience whatsoever but even then my late grandfather's lecture for me years ago are already enough to put me off from the front line. Those young men think they can just storm through enemies' strongholds and do 360 no scoping them, or charge at the machine gun-equipped enemies with only a knife while they were being fired upon left to right, or even thinking they could just die and then respawn again. 😑
The biggest impediment is not knowing the language. It takes months of difficulty and frustration to learn a useable amount of Russian or Ukrainian. It just adds to the nightmare of going into someone else's fight and makes the likelihood of getting killed much greater. I did military service. I suppose what that gives me is some perspective on the amount of training required to be useful as a soldier. I would think even a capable soldier would find the language barrier alone, very daunting, let alone a person with no military experience. I think military training is a shock to most people. It is a foreign experience and you realise that for soldiers, not much has changed in 2000 years...except the weapons.
Just imagine having to learn to speak 165 languages and dialects to properly conduct military operations.
That's all the volunteers and foreign fighters in Ukraine currently.
you don't need to translate geocide
Read my comment.
The price of war.
Incidentally, many went to Greece to fight the Turks. Best known was Lord Byron, and he was some use, too.
In the USA we remember the foreign fighters with gratitude. And know their names, often, Pulaski, Lafayette, Von Steuben…maybe Ukraine will remember some of these.@@dennisnaderhoff2008
A few of the mercenaries who actually returned to their home countries talked about how the Ukrainian military gave them only 10 rounds of ammunition & some even had their passports confiscated. The lucky ones managed to make it to Poland across the border. The unfortunate ones have been captured by the Russians. One of them is Sean Pinner.
Of course it's not Iraq or Avganistan.. Russia actually has guns .. It's easy to attack a weaker than you...That's what a bully does.
I went as volunteer (doctor) a few months. It´s crazy how people die for rich politicians, reminds me WWI.
You was in ukraine ?
@@ismiismael yes, im a militar doctor (ortho surgeon). Being in a few conflicts. Saw many bad things, but Im used to. War is hell, stupidity in human kind
wasn`t soldiers drafted during ww1. like ww2
I've never been to war my self hope I never need to, but when my grandfather was alive he told me there's a very large difference between a soldier that has see battle and one that has not
yes they are profoundly affected...forever
Many a good soldier never seen battle and many a bad soldier that has.
I went paintballing just before Christmas, I got shot in the head 4 times in half an hour by my mates.
these boys signing up like it's a game of call of duty will be dead on the first day.
Under rated comment of the day.
Thank you for your service.
I went over for 6 months as a 12 year Canadian veteran. I thought it would be Afghanistan all over again.
WOW was I wrong. It was INSANE the amount of artillery Russia has. They bombed us 24/7 for 6 months straight.. around the clock. NON STOP.
After 6 months of that I came back (with ptsd). I now understand what my army buddies went through.
As a fellow Canadian. Thank God you are back home safe.
Please don't ever do that again.
That is not our fight.
God gave us a beautiful country, full of peace and natural beauty,.
He also have us the live to cherish it and enjoy it.
Do not throw your life away for other people's wars.
that is crazy bro. glad you made it out of there.
Wow, interesting to hear the first-hand experience. Being under constant bombardment certainly has extreme psychological impact. My father fought in the Croatian war of independence, or as we call it the Homeland War. He says that war is not just constant combat, quite the contrary in fact. Makes sense, they were holding positions for days waiting for the enemy to attack. And mind you, he was in a recon platoon (although it was just called recon, usually it only meant they were the furthest forward). The battles were usually relatively short, since they were always outgunned and outnumbered in the early stages of the war, so they would usually try to hold where they could and if the enemy brought their tanks and AFVs out (which they often couldn't engage at all because they had literally no AT weapon to speak of) they would fall back to the next position, the next village. He says they were constantly bombarded by mortars and artillery. Days upon days of bombardment, rain, cold. He says it broke many men psychologically, they just couldn't take it anymore after some point. He says he vividly remembers when they captured a small mortar (probably only a 60mm) and a few rounds of ammo and they fired those few small rounds back at an enemy position, they felt as if they were half-way to winning the war. My father also believes a large factor in the stunning victory of our army in Operation Storm and the massive enemy retreat was that the enemy soldiers for the first time in the war experienced such a massive artillery bombardment, which they weren't used to.
@@MaxCroat Ustashe are the enemy just like Bandera. Western proxies with bloodlust. US empire is crumbling and so is its imposed disorder. War in Ukr was chosen by the US after ignorng their promises to Gorbi. US proceeded with taking over in neocolonial fashion and looting like no tomorrow. RF is beating the sheet out of western imperialists with Ukr population serving as cannon fodder. 10 years now since Nuland-Pyatt-Svoboda-Ťahnibok-Turčinov-Kličko shootings on the Majdan Nezaležnosti. That was the moment their state became dependent on the US. Whole west either helped directly or pretended nothing was happening. US aggressed via Saakashvili in 2008 too. It now looks far away. Connect dots and there you go. Arty shockwave loves to do contusion which damages brains. Its not feelings, its real impacts.
Good. Imagine how the civilians of Donbass feel, having lived that every day since 2014 from their “own government”, which YOU went there to help!