It's actually sick to get revenge on Hope for something her mother did. Especially because Steffy manipulated Hope's life many times way before that day.
In the video Steffy said to Liam…”you’re leaving without speaking to Hope?” It was a question, Steffy didn’t plan anything, Katie and BrHooker were talking over the video when Steffy said that but still, EVERYTHING is always Steffys fault.
Watching these scenes and the way Steffy has reacted, telling Brooke to have more faith in Hope etc, then watching the episode where Steffy miscarries and the way Hope dances on that baby's grave and is all "LIAM THERE ARE NO OBSTACLES NOW BETWEEN US LETS GET MARRIED!" And Hope is the compassionate one with the big heart? Really? Ha.
Why didn't she just give it a little more time to heal and then see what was gonna happen. Then made a decision on what she wanted to do tare the papers up or stay married to Liam. Hopeless just thought Liam was gonna be their waiting for her to make her mind up no Liam moved on which was good for him because Liam and Steffy were happy as hell till she lost that baby sad but like Steffy told Liam he didn't come after her he just wanted to see what Steffy answer was and left, Steffy just want Liam to want her and only her. Liam didn't marry Hopeless no more Hopeless ran Liam around like a lost puppet on a string and married his brother, that was real sick.
"Hope doesnt see things way you and I see things. She has different expectations". And thats her problem Brooke. And now I see why Brooke is always so threatened by Steffy, cause Brooke sees herself in her
Expecting your fiance to stay faithful isn't too much to ask. Especially one your wedding day. Understand that liam and hope were together when steffy started going after him...only after he became a Spencer of course. The problem is liam is weak asf and has no sense of wrong or right ...steffy shouldve realized the way you get a man is the way you lose him. he wasn't hers from the beginning but liam is a joke either way
Hope's fairytale world, She proves that at the latest at the second wedding, where she leaves Liam because of a bachelor party with Steffy. THAT was definitely immature. Also that once again she blames Steffy, although Liam was the actor in Italy. But her mother raised her that way. She was always the cute little blond girl everyone should adore. She achieved that with Ridge and also with Nick. And when she came to FC, Aunt Katie made sure that she didn't have to experience normal life in the company here either, but was pushed straight to the top. She was spoiled by everyone.
@@feuerwehrluetzen I wouldn't say it's immature. Steffy has been a thorn in Hope and Liam's side for a long time. He showed up still slightly drunk and late and after spending all night with Steffy. She made the right decision.
And here we are 7 years later with this same love triangle. Its time for some new and different storylines. Give hope her baby back and stop with the same old live triangles and tell a new story please
@@songriver1232 smart in the scenes you must of not saw the scenes were she was self medicating on pills ordering online disappointing her fans living with liam while he still was married to steph such an 😇😇😇
@@elizabethrinehart4190 i did. She had some bad moments. But she jad some great moments of clarity. And then idk what happenes. But time and agon at these breakups. She sees liam for who he is, a sponless wimp. Then fornsome reasin she thows the blinders back on
It's hard for them to move on cause deep down, Liam will always be in both of theirs. Sure, they may find love with other people, but Liam will always be in their hearts just they will always be in his
This is really laughable. Brooke: you should have stopped him and thought. Seriously? You have never been able to do this yourself and will never be able to. You set your own traps, Brooke. It makes you so ridiculous.
She should know all about that. Remember when she slept with Nick when she thought Ridge. She never stopped Nick. She went along with it. At least Steffy and Liam stopped before it went any further. Brooke went all the way with Nick and got pregnant and didn't know who the father of her child was.
@@valeriemendez1036 Brooke and the rest of the Logans never ever believed that there was real love between Steffy and Liam. They viewed the marriage as a rebound when it wasn't. Steffy and Liam were very much in love. They just never wanted to believe it or acknowledge it. They thought once the divorce happened that would be it. They also thought a marriage to Hope was gonna automatically erase Liam's feelings for Steffy but that's not how love works. Just because a marriage is over, doesn't mean your feelings for that person is over and Brooke and Hope fail to understand that.
but only for a new York minute then he goes back to Hope, poor Steffy needs boundaries and need to find a man who loves only her and puts her first and foremost, being the stand by girl doesn't become her.
@@darnellanders8768 BEST post yet, yep. nuff said, lmfao .... steffy = a type of chick low self worth, self esteem not realizing' liam is only TRULY in love with hope, both hopes always will be his soulmate, whoever is playing her. BELL is showing us that, for a long time. lol steffy and finn are great though. Liam only truly IN love wit hope.'
@@evaharris6450 a few months ago I would agree with you. But since Liam cheated on Hope over a presumed kiss leaving her in the hands of a man who he himself stated was still obsessed and then to run back to Stuffy Ho's willing to easily dismiss Hope .. I just don't connect with Liam who say one thing yet do another. He proved Thomas to be right about his flip flop nature of just blowing with the wind not really caring where he lands. He was staying grounded for awhile after they got Beth back but hr still has no backbone to lose faith in Hope. She should have divorce him to protect her heart to spite wanting to work it out because of the kids as Brooke suggested. Stuffy Ho like Liam never enforce her words either and her boundaries are as weak as Liam's were. She would manipulate things her favor by working right along side with Bill and Thomas to split them up so its no wonder Liam is confused but Liam should have been done with Steffy when she boinked his dad at the first sign of trouble also over a kiss between he and Sally. Stuffy ho claimed she was independent and didn't need a man knowing she wanted one and still wouldn't loosen the grip on Liam .she said she exposed Thomas for that kiss she planted on Liam as Hope was approaching behind his cues because of Douglas And wanting Douglas in a stable home then here we go again with Stuffy ho remaining the stand by girl till the end. Even while supposedly smitten with Finn. She suggested that Liam go talk to Hope but never enforce her words. She never insisted. It shows lack of integrity and Stuffy ho should have been done with Liam when he left her devastated leaving with Beth whom she thought was Phoebe. Along side with Hope and Brooke. Stuffy ho just couldn't miss out on sticking it to Hope and Finn he forgives that she placed him on the back burner as secondary supply just as she had become for Liam knowing he loved Hope. Hope does have integrity and she tries to enforce her words like the unconditional love she feels for Douglas.. She kept her promise to never abandoned him and she was willing to kick Liam to the curb to keep that promise. Hope is to good for Liam and most definitely Thomas. Hope needs a new love interest. She should be riding off into the sunset to be happy just as Stuffy ho has..
@Christina Bonvillian ha ha ha ha ha Steffy ended up with the short end of the shit on the stick and had to settle for Finn...Liam was never in love with Steffy.. He just loved the free cha cha chas from time to time then he had Hope on his mind the next day..they only hooked up due to misunderstandings.. She was the stand by girl just in case ..now she seems to be primary for Finn instead of secondary supply...
This leads to them never getting married because he has a bachelor night out woth steffie. And is late to his 3rd wedding Then him and steffie get together
@Song River and Steffy gets blamed for that night, too.. even though Liam tracked her down. That 3rd wedding is where Hope told Liam, "You don't deserve me"
Christina Bonvillian Wrong. He only went to Steffy when Hope pushed him away or when Steffy was pregnant and he felt obligated to her. He never needed any of that. He always willingly went back to Hope. Even when he had a family with both, who did he choose? That tells you all you need to know.
@@winter_s_44 Think of it when Quinn kidnaps him and he only remembers Steffy - and only Steffy. He then fights for Steffy for a very long time because she is married to Wyatt until he gets her back. It was true love and the only time that Liam made his own decisions without constantly being in this Hopi drama carousel.
Liam is not in love with you hope he loves steffy she is the woman he need in is life you are too good for him like mother like daughter was running away from Liam is right
I Love ❤ Hope. She reminds me of that kid when you're playing dolls and things don't go her way breaks the toy. 😂😂😂 I died laughing when she ripped up the papers. It reminded me of paperdolls/paper people 😂😂😂
Love hope! Pretty sweet hope, adorable loving amazing' wonderful hope= Liam soulmate por vida, for life, STEFFY take a few seats back, and keep it movin' and i want steffy wit FINN they look/vibe natural together,she always seem like Liam's mommie. older type.' Hope and Liam always soulmates. the real love with them both, and that is both versions so real to me, chica, and have a great evening Keisha... Adios.
yeah and then they turn to the stand by girl or guy for a new York minute. its so silly, most folks hold out and fight for what they want, and then there r those who r greedy who wants there cake and ice cream too if its their to be eaten.
so true and that was there downfall, only difference is that Brooke did fight for Ridge at times but had no choice but to give up and move on, but it was only momentarily as she somehow knew Ridge was her destiny, Liam has no backbone and just settles for which ever way the wind blows, he is not a romantic at all so I don't get it, but Steffy always having the door open doesn't help, perhaps he belongs with Stuffy ho who will take him anyway she can get him.
Well, Hope and Brooke were pushing hard for an annulment between Liam and steffy and then pushing hard for a wedding between Liam and Hope. Hope has a hard time being without Liam.. its like she can barely function without him.
Steffy knows how to talk about something else, when is called...Fun, then worry about other people's Drama...Hope wants to demand and give orders, Liam just sit back and take it like a idiot...l was so grateful when Wyatt put Hope in her place, after losing her baby...she couldn't degrade him and play the Drama card, Yes!!!
My thing with Hope is why does she keep wanting Liam knowing he loves Steffy as well? Why would she invite Steffy to the wedding knowing she was still in love with him?
Hope saying you and Steffy having private jokes together, which means they're happy in conversation and having fun...being with Hope is nothing but drama and switching the blame excuse game on Steffy...all she need to do is check Liam!!!
@@MsGhost79, seriously? Who do you think wrote Steffy's character? Maybe if they had written Hope and Liam as more realistic, they wouldn't have to keep destroying so many others to prop them!
@@kitjune9333 BINGO! Ruining other characters is so right. Thomas is insane. And, Ridge and Brooke look like asses in general as they convince their daughters they want this man. All this and Liam and Hope are as boring and ridiculous as they were from Day 1.
@@joandemmerritte5615 i don't even bother watching the ridiculousness on screen lately. The more they try to push Liam and Hope, the two least interesting characters on screen, front and center, the less i care to tune in. When the whole show is not about them i might start watching again.
I think that is what really gets the Logans' goat. LOL! Hey, it happens; but, Brooke's mistake is in thinking that the ONLY women men find irresistible are the members of the Logan family. Liam said on MULTIPLE occasions, "I do love Steffy. She is my wife." The Logan herd simply wasn't listening.
Hope is always damn devastated and is a cry baby when she doesn’t get her way. Brooke needs to let her grow up but here it is 2019 and Brooke is still running to Liam to plead Hopes case. Blah blah
Steffy did her best for Liam and Hopeless to have a marriage which it's something that the money sex hungry Logans won't do lol oh these old episodes hhh
Steffy better then me, because she would've got cursed out by me...she need to mind her business, let her daughter think for herself and move the h*** on!!!
That;s all Hopeless knows how to do is walk out, run away never stays and try's to work it out just shows how immature she really is Then she'll come back with another planned wedding with Brooke as the wedding planner Lol
Oh come on….. oh course if you have self respect you walk out on the guy who almost screwed his ex on his weeding day…. And she should of never looked back. Why would anyone blame Hope for walking out. No one should endure this …. And try to “ work this out”
@@emilieb.7838 Look, Hope should have walked out on Liam, is what I'm saying. The issue I have is her dumba$$ kept taking him back and allowing Liam to emotionally abuse her. She allowed Liam to treat her the way he did. Hope gave up everything for him. She couldn't take Oliver back and he cheated on her 1x. Liam cheated on her numerous times beginning with Amber, that's when Hope should have dumped him. She let Liam mess her life up. She got on pills, gave up her morals, her virginity. Her life was better before she met Liam. Those are the issues I have with Hopeless. And she's supposed to be a smart girl???
@@emilieb.7838 Hope was right to call Liam out and hold his feet to the fire but the issue is, she kept taking him back. Jump forward 2 months, and Hope is BEGGING Liam to come back to her
Now didn't Hopeless say she can't forget then later she rushed and jumped in bed with Liam after he fail in Love with Steffy she new what was going on then when she found out Steffy was pregnant she lost it like Steffy took everything from her when she had lost that long ago.
@@acupoftaewithsugaandakooki1868 Then Brooke should probably help her to keep her hands off him because his eternal back and forth is not good for her. But she does the opposite.
she walks outncz she wants liam tonrun after her. as soon as he gets serious withbsteffy she wants him back! no matter what! shennever stays by her decision!
hope is liam real love on bold, it's amazing how some hate her so much they can't admit to what is on our screen Bell Jr. personally show it all the time.'as a real man that i am, let me tell you, there are '2'types of love .REAL LOVE=hope/liam and 'Lust" as 'settling for less" is steffy regarding liam, who is IN LOVE and never stopped being IN love w/hope." Never will be... Peace.
@@clairelally3644 Tell Taylor what she's not all up in her daughter's business and Steffy can stand her ground alone...Hope want everything perfect, she know Liam not going to stop speaking to Steffy...Hope confronted Steffy, but who she need to fuss out more is Liam...she's a drama queen at her best!!!
@@theresapoll What? Taylor insisted on going to Liam's house with Brooke. How many times has she confronted Liam, Brooke and Hope on Steffy's behalf? And let us not forget that she shot a man in the back because she dared to bed her precious Steff!
Yeah.. and Hope certainly didn’t say sorry for stealing her husband .. instead she went after Steffy like an angry chiwawa , and married her husband the minute they got divorced … Hope do not deserve any kindness from anyone,.. specially not from Steffy
@@anettv6150 That's exactly why Steffy had Liam's baby first.... Albeit she miscarried but that goes to show Liam has and always will love Steffy more than Hope. Hope was an obligation. (Remember how they got together) Whereas Steffy & Liam started as friends and have alot in common. Hope & Liam, on the other hand, have nothing in common. He was just a rebound for her and she lacks the self-awareness to realize.
@@Charlie-nd9ef Hope and Liam share similar characteristics and want to live the same type of life. Steffy is always there, waiting with a warm bed, just like Brooke. Steffy is a good back up plan.
Brooke thinks Hope & Liam are like Her & Ridge. Ridge always ran back to Brooke, always left Taylor for her. Even after creating a family and a home with Taylor, Brooke was always there on the sides. Now with Hope & Liam she thinks Liam should always be with Hope. Difference is Hope isn't the one Liam always runs back to, it's Steffy. Hope does one thing )like Taylor did to ridge) and Liam goes right back Steffy just like Ridge did.
And thats intentional, cause Bell said that Hope/Liam/Steffy is another version of the triangle of Taylor/Ridge/Brooke. He said the difference is that Hope is the Taylor in the triangle and Steffy is Brooke and Liam is Ridge 2.0. Thats why Liam always goes back to Steffy. Cause that's his "destiny"
Oh she definitely talked for herself. While you're speaking about Brooke, why don't you add a few more in, that always talks for Sniffy. Her 🦆quack mommy dearest, Bill, Stephanie, Remember Liam went after Hope. Sniffy with after him like a dog in heat. Here we are watching Liam begging Hope to stay with him and be his wife. Ya'll think Liam's inlove with Sniffy, then why beg Hope??? Sniffy is easy.
@@amybritt4113 Well, but this Steffy even tried to bring Liam and Hope back together here, she described the day in Italy as a misunderstanding, she kept saying to Brooke and Hope that Liam loves Hope. Conversely, the child Hope would never do that, ok? The problem in this triangle is only Liam and the two women join in. He loves both. That's how it is
And I hate how they made steffy in this storyline like if at any moment in time,if Lim would come to her and just needed some “comfort” that she would give it to him and he doesn’t deserve that type of power,and he knows so it wouldn’t matter to him if Hope walked out or not bc in a few days or so,he’ll be moving on with steffy
Hope you not at steffy was married to Liam first but you and are mothers that you can have him nowing that staffy was is wife and you are the other woman
WRONG, Steffy triangulated herself between Hope and Liam's relationship with her cha cha chas, she first tried with Oliver and he wasn't impressed then she tried dollar Bill who was married and then she found the weakness in Liam, she found out Hope wasn't putting out till marriage so se took full advantage of that. played on his being horny, Liam was going to marry Hope but Steffy with the help of dollar Bill arranged for Hope to be trapped in the Gondala, Steffy has always had stoop to all sorts of tactics to win Liam, Steffy will forever be the stand by girl easy chair recliner. take off your rose color glasses so u can see clearly.
Yes Liam is a clown but all this hurt and devastation could have been avoided it Hope (and Brooke) actually took seriously the relationship Liam and Steffy had instead on just being convinced it was fake and the marriage was a farce. Liam by no means was honest about his feelings but he never shared those ideas Hope and Brooke had about their relationship. And it's annoying how he feels he has be "friends" with the other. He did this with Hope right after he married Steffy. Like his purpose being around the other is never even business related. Business and family functions really are the only reasons they HAVE to see each other yet he always finds his way there for other reasons
Hope Liam is in love with steffy and you no that but you wished ina married with hope need time to think if this is the relationship between staffy and Liam
That is not a child!!She is a grown azz woman who has very childish ways.Her mother enables her because she always give her bad advice.Why did she sic Hope on a married man I will never know.
Liam married Steffy before he ever married Hope. Why didn't Hope get the clue then that he had real feelings for Steffy? Because Brooke n Hope always have ignored n walked over her, they don't get that Liam had/have genuine feelings for her! However, she should accept Liam as he is and move on with her marriage or she would lose him.
And that what gets me. Some people claim Brooke is the one railroading Liam to marry Hope when it's actually Steffy (with her Victoria Secrets and cha cha cha's and unwanted kisses) and Taylor railroading Liam to be with Steffy just like Thomas is now doing to keep Lope apart.
oh but its for Hope to tread all over Steffy when she wants to and he only does what Steffy wants.She told him to go marry Hope in her dress and every other time he does what Steffy wants but why don't she ask him to come to her because he would
Yes, and I do notice that Liam neglected to tell HOpe that Steffy advised him to put a smile on his face and marry Hope. And, that this Steffy did as Liam was crying and declaring his love for Steffy. LOL. I love it.
steffy leaves out her communications with Bill is how she ended up in liam's room. too many ppl saying this isn't steffy fault but she beelines to liam every time she feels she has an opening. she knows its the only way to pry liam from Hope.
And Steffy sent Liam back to Hope. If Steffy hadn't been there, Liam would have been gone by the time Hope got back snd je wp8kd have been on a plane headed for Steffy.
Aqui o colo e ela sendo noiva dele a novela começou nascimento nessa temporada aí ela gera a noiva dele o meu irmão apareceu e ela sabia que que a lorelação tão floral porque ela sabia que eu queria ter sido casado com a Stephanie ele se humilham ela agrada nunca
I really wish Steffy would say she'll show hope as much respect as brooke showed her parents marriage.
I wish she would have said something like that too.But honestly Steffy helped me understand Brooke better and Hope made me understand Taylor better.
@Alicia Thomas Brooke never showed Taylor half that respect
It's actually sick to get revenge on Hope for something her mother did. Especially because Steffy manipulated Hope's life many times way before that day.
Bell would never let steffy tell dope or brooke how she really feel but they can always voice how they feel
Hahaha no freaking way Brooke showed no respect I remember the bedroom line and all the sauna scenes
In the video Steffy said to Liam…”you’re leaving without speaking to Hope?” It was a question, Steffy didn’t plan anything, Katie and BrHooker were talking over the video when Steffy said that but still, EVERYTHING is always Steffys fault.
Watching these scenes and the way Steffy has reacted, telling Brooke to have more faith in Hope etc, then watching the episode where Steffy miscarries and the way Hope dances on that baby's grave and is all "LIAM THERE ARE NO OBSTACLES NOW BETWEEN US LETS GET MARRIED!"
And Hope is the compassionate one with the big heart? Really?
Ha.
Hope is just like Brooke. Everything needs to be their ways.
That part!!!!!!
Yes, Yes!!!
I do not like Hopeless that name suits her very well.
Why didn't she just give it a little more time to heal and then see what was gonna happen. Then made a decision on what she wanted to do tare the papers up or stay married to Liam. Hopeless just thought Liam was gonna be their waiting for her to make her mind up no Liam moved on which was good for him because Liam and Steffy were happy as hell till she lost that baby sad but like Steffy told Liam he didn't come after her he just wanted to see what Steffy answer was and left, Steffy just want Liam to want her and only her. Liam didn't marry Hopeless no more Hopeless ran Liam around like a lost puppet on a string and married his brother, that was real sick.
"Hope doesnt see things way you and I see things. She has different expectations".
And thats her problem Brooke. And now I see why Brooke is always so threatened by Steffy, cause Brooke sees herself in her
Brooke would take advantage of anyone like Ridge or Eric or Thorne. She has no right to ask anyone to back off. Liam will always love Steffy.
Liam clearly wasn't ready for marriage and he should have just stayed single for a while. Sort out his own head.
No he wasn't ready for marriage with Hope.
I agree
so true
Afterall this time, he still doesn't have his head on right
Liam should have been going to counseling instead of getting marry to Hope or Steffy back then
Hopes expectations are that she gets whatever she wants whenever she wants and any body says no to her is just wrong.
Exactly
Expecting your fiance to stay faithful isn't too much to ask. Especially one your wedding day. Understand that liam and hope were together when steffy started going after him...only after he became a Spencer of course. The problem is liam is weak asf and has no sense of wrong or right ...steffy shouldve realized the way you get a man is the way you lose him. he wasn't hers from the beginning but liam is a joke either way
@@Kelly-zy1vo exactly…. !! I don’t get how people are still blaming Hope. Liam is the problem and still is….
Hope's fairytale world, She proves that at the latest at the second wedding, where she leaves Liam because of a bachelor party with Steffy. THAT was definitely immature. Also that once again she blames Steffy, although Liam was the actor in Italy. But her mother raised her that way. She was always the cute little blond girl everyone should adore. She achieved that with Ridge and also with Nick. And when she came to FC, Aunt Katie made sure that she didn't have to experience normal life in the company here either, but was pushed straight to the top. She was spoiled by everyone.
@@feuerwehrluetzen I wouldn't say it's immature. Steffy has been a thorn in Hope and Liam's side for a long time. He showed up still slightly drunk and late and after spending all night with Steffy. She made the right decision.
Hope always gets Liam by default.. he wanted to run away with steffy... Poor hope
And here we are 7 years later with this same love triangle. Its time for some new and different storylines. Give hope her baby back and stop with the same old live triangles and tell a new story please
@@songriver1232 smart in the scenes you must of not saw the scenes were she was self medicating on pills ordering online disappointing her fans living with liam while he still was married to steph such an 😇😇😇
@@elizabethrinehart4190 i did. She had some bad moments. But she jad some great moments of clarity. And then idk what happenes. But time and agon at these breakups. She sees liam for who he is, a sponless wimp. Then fornsome reasin she thows the blinders back on
@@songriver1232 she sure does
@@songriver1232 its a soap and the actor play her role its all
@@annasutter7135 no shit sherlock
This gets so old Steffy being blamed for everything.Liam and Hope need to look at all they do instead of blaming everyone else
Hope you said it so many times Liam still loves Steffy! Leave Liam cause Steffy will always be in his heart!
BOTH of the girls need to understand, that he will love them both....forever.
It's hard for them to move on cause deep down, Liam will always be in both of theirs. Sure, they may find love with other people, but Liam will always be in their hearts just they will always be in his
I’m with Steffy on this Hope neeeds to grow up and realize things aren’t always perfect
Wish steffy can hear herself here before sleeping with bill over a meaningless,unwanted kiss between Liam and Sally.
O cólonga o ataque Scott ganhou o prêmio que fez tão bapaca tão compreensível não é compreensível o cara mais saboroso viado o negócio pro meu poder
O homem mais puro mais idiota mais pouco nojento da minha vida que eu já vi
This is really laughable. Brooke: you should have stopped him and thought. Seriously? You have never been able to do this yourself and will never be able to. You set your own traps, Brooke. It makes you so ridiculous.
She should know all about that. Remember when she slept with Nick when she thought Ridge. She never stopped Nick. She went along with it. At least Steffy and Liam stopped before it went any further. Brooke went all the way with Nick and got pregnant and didn't know who the father of her child was.
Brooke can't stop Liam or anyone else, Steffy and Liam are in love ❤️
@@valeriemendez1036 Brooke and the rest of the Logans never ever believed that there was real love between Steffy and Liam. They viewed the marriage as a rebound when it wasn't. Steffy and Liam were very much in love. They just never wanted to believe it or acknowledge it. They thought once the divorce happened that would be it. They also thought a marriage to Hope was gonna automatically erase Liam's feelings for Steffy but that's not how love works. Just because a marriage is over, doesn't mean your feelings for that person is over and Brooke and Hope fail to understand that.
@@RealTalk1411 well said
Hope you r right Liam still loves Steffy
but only for a new York minute then he goes back to Hope, poor Steffy needs boundaries and need to find a man who loves only her and puts her first and foremost, being the stand by girl doesn't become her.
He never denies it when she saids that.He should tell her that I don't love Steffy but he can't.He would be lying and she would know that he is lying.
@@darnellanders8768 BEST post yet, yep. nuff said, lmfao .... steffy = a type of chick low self worth, self esteem not realizing' liam is only TRULY in love with hope, both hopes always will be his soulmate, whoever is playing her.
BELL is showing us that, for a long time. lol steffy and finn are great though. Liam only truly IN love wit hope.'
@@evaharris6450 a few months ago I would agree with you. But since Liam cheated on Hope over a presumed kiss leaving her in the hands of a man who he himself stated was still obsessed and then to run back to Stuffy Ho's willing to easily dismiss Hope .. I just don't connect with Liam who say one thing yet do another. He proved Thomas to be right about his flip flop nature of just blowing with the wind not really caring where he lands. He was staying grounded for awhile after they got Beth back but hr still has no backbone to lose faith in Hope. She should have divorce him to protect her heart to spite wanting to work it out because of the kids as Brooke suggested. Stuffy Ho like Liam never enforce her words either and her boundaries are as weak as Liam's were. She would manipulate things her favor by working right along side with Bill and Thomas to split them up so its no wonder Liam is confused but Liam should have been done with Steffy when she boinked his dad at the first sign of trouble also over a kiss between he and Sally. Stuffy ho claimed she was independent and didn't need a man knowing she wanted one and still wouldn't loosen the grip on Liam .she said she exposed Thomas for that kiss she planted on Liam as Hope was approaching behind his cues because of Douglas And wanting Douglas in a stable home then here we go again with Stuffy ho remaining the stand by girl till the end. Even while supposedly smitten with Finn. She suggested that Liam go talk to Hope but never enforce her words. She never insisted. It shows lack of integrity and Stuffy ho should have been done with Liam when he left her devastated leaving with Beth whom she thought was Phoebe. Along side with Hope and Brooke. Stuffy ho just couldn't miss out on sticking it to Hope and Finn he forgives that she placed him on the back burner as secondary supply just as she had become for Liam knowing he loved Hope. Hope does have integrity and she tries to enforce her words like the unconditional love she feels for Douglas.. She kept her promise to never abandoned him and she was willing to kick Liam to the curb to keep that promise. Hope is to good for Liam and most definitely Thomas. Hope needs a new love interest. She should be riding off into the sunset to be happy just as Stuffy ho has..
@Christina Bonvillian ha ha ha ha ha Steffy ended up with the short end of the shit on the stick and had to settle for Finn...Liam was never in love with Steffy.. He just loved the free cha cha chas from time to time then he had Hope on his mind the next day..they only hooked up due to misunderstandings.. She was the stand by girl just in case ..now she seems to be primary for Finn instead of secondary supply...
I mean, what did Hope expect? He married her days after his divorce was final...of course, he'll always love Steffy! They were married!
Ideally, though, your almost new husband shouldn't be making out with his ex-wife before he marries you.
@@gingersnapquick Exactly! So, why would Hope still want him after that? She should have never looked back!
Hope wanted a re-do wedd8ng because the wedding in Italy wasn't perfect like Hope thought it was
This leads to them never getting married because he has a bachelor night out woth steffie. And is late to his 3rd wedding
Then him and steffie get together
@Song River and Steffy gets blamed for that night, too.. even though Liam tracked her down. That 3rd wedding is where Hope told Liam, "You don't deserve me"
He is always in love with steffy and so much more
He’s more in love with hope
Christina Bonvillian Wrong. He only went to Steffy when Hope pushed him away or when Steffy was pregnant and he felt obligated to her. He never needed any of that. He always willingly went back to Hope. Even when he had a family with both, who did he choose? That tells you all you need to know.
@@winter_s_44 Think of it when Quinn kidnaps him and he only remembers Steffy - and only Steffy. He then fights for Steffy for a very long time because she is married to Wyatt until he gets her back. It was true love and the only time that Liam made his own decisions without constantly being in this Hopi drama carousel.
I like hope and Steffy but boy does Hope really pisses me off with her self rightous attitude
Fandomsaddict all the Logans have that same attitude
@@lisamclouth5926 I know lol. Like when Katie slept with Nick when he was with brigett
Nellie Cooper
100% AGREE with you!!
Anyone would be devastated to see a video like that. Even tho I don't like hope but she deserves someone that is not in love with someone else.
Why is Brooke so scared of Steffy, is it because she is seeing some of her in Steffy?
Sure. 100%
That why she's afraid
Yup!!
Probably
That and she needs to be able to win over Taylor 🙄 even when it comes to her kids. 🙄
O God Brooke hopes always devastated! 🙄🙄 any time she doesn't get her way anytime everything doesn't go exactly the way she plans..
Brooke go sit down somewhere
Liam is not in love with you hope he loves steffy she is the woman he need in is life you are too good for him like mother like daughter was running away from Liam is right
The Logan’s have hated Steffy ever since she got Forrester back from Spencer.
I Love ❤ Hope. She reminds me of that kid when you're playing dolls and things don't go her way breaks the toy. 😂😂😂 I died laughing when she ripped up the papers. It reminded me of paperdolls/paper people 😂😂😂
Love hope!
Pretty sweet hope, adorable loving amazing' wonderful hope= Liam soulmate por vida, for life, STEFFY take a few seats back, and keep it movin' and i want steffy wit FINN they look/vibe natural together,she always seem like Liam's mommie. older type.' Hope and Liam always soulmates. the real love with them both, and that is both versions so real to me, chica, and have a great evening Keisha... Adios.
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Just like Brooke,Liam cannot be without someone in his life for 5 minutes
Lisa McLouth. ...you're exactly right!
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yeah and then they turn to the stand by girl or guy for a new York minute. its so silly, most folks hold out and fight for what they want, and then there r those who r greedy who wants there cake and ice cream too if its their to be eaten.
so true and that was there downfall, only difference is that Brooke did fight for Ridge at times but had no choice but to give up and move on, but it was only momentarily as she somehow knew Ridge was her destiny, Liam has no backbone and just settles for which ever way the wind blows, he is not a romantic at all so I don't get it, but Steffy always having the door open doesn't help, perhaps he belongs with Stuffy ho who will take him anyway she can get him.
Well, Hope and Brooke were pushing hard for an annulment between Liam and steffy and then pushing hard for a wedding between Liam and Hope. Hope has a hard time being without Liam.. its like she can barely function without him.
Steffy knows how to talk about something else, when is called...Fun, then worry about other people's Drama...Hope wants to demand and give orders, Liam just sit back and take it like a idiot...l was so grateful when Wyatt put Hope in her place, after losing her baby...she couldn't degrade him and play the Drama card, Yes!!!
Being upset and confused is not an excuse to hop into bed with your alternative wife.
I’m seriously sick of hell having Steffy apologize to that witch but hope does crap to Steffy and she blames everyone else and never apologizes
My thing with Hope is why does she keep wanting Liam knowing he loves Steffy as well? Why would she invite Steffy to the wedding knowing she was still in love with him?
Really Brooke Just Like You Did When Katie Took Off Her Ring And You Jumped In Bed With Bill While Making Her Think She Was Delusional
At least she heard it from Katie's own lips!
So true. That is Brooke hypocritical as always
She's such a hypocrite
Hope acts like a little girl throwing a tantrum.
Hope saying you and Steffy having private jokes together, which means they're happy in conversation and having fun...being with Hope is nothing but drama and switching the blame excuse game on Steffy...all she need to do is check Liam!!!
Hope had to fight for Liam's attention when steffy and Liam are together- even when steffy and liam were just friends.
Stephie Is a much better person than Dope.
Sorry hope Liam will never let stephy go he still loves her
Hope's words are as empty as Liam's. Why was Steffy thrown into their foolishness?
Because she has no self respect maybe.
@@MsGhost79, seriously? Who do you think wrote Steffy's character? Maybe if they had written Hope and Liam as more realistic, they wouldn't have to keep destroying so many others to prop them!
@@kitjune9333 BINGO! Ruining other characters is so right. Thomas is insane. And, Ridge and Brooke look like asses in general as they convince their daughters they want this man. All this and Liam and Hope are as boring and ridiculous as they were from Day 1.
@@joandemmerritte5615 i don't even bother watching the ridiculousness on screen lately. The more they try to push Liam and Hope, the two least interesting characters on screen, front and center, the less i care to tune in. When the whole show is not about them i might start watching again.
Steffy INVITED HERSELF INTO LIAM AND HOPES RELATIONS.
You don't see steffy mother butting in hope taking a break from Liam
What's so sad is that love he has for Steffy occurred when he and Hope were FIRST ENGAGED TO EACH OTHER and still involved.
I think that is what really gets the Logans' goat. LOL! Hey, it happens; but, Brooke's mistake is in thinking that the ONLY women men find irresistible are the members of the Logan family. Liam said on MULTIPLE occasions, "I do love Steffy. She is my wife." The Logan herd simply wasn't listening.
Sorry stephy and Liam were engaged first not you hope
Hope you need a life is not perfect but you can move on. Lime you married the wrong person
You mean Liam
Hope is always damn devastated and is a cry baby when she doesn’t get her way. Brooke needs to let her grow up but here it is 2019 and Brooke is still running to Liam to plead Hopes case. Blah blah
Actually, I think Liam is the one who is pleading his case to Hope!
Steffy did her best for Liam and Hopeless to have a marriage which it's something that the money sex hungry Logans won't do lol oh these old episodes hhh
Damn Liam is always saying I screwed up and Hope trying to play hard lol but she’s a sucker
Omg Brooke.. hope is old enough to get married but cant fight her own battles? Ffs.
Steffy better then me, because she would've got cursed out by me...she need to mind her business, let her daughter think for herself and move the h*** on!!!
That;s all Hopeless knows how to do is walk out, run away never stays and try's to work it out just shows how immature she really is
Then she'll come back with another planned wedding with Brooke as the wedding planner Lol
Oh come on….. oh course if you have self respect you walk out on the guy who almost screwed his ex on his weeding day…. And she should of never looked back. Why would anyone blame Hope for walking out. No one should endure this …. And try to “ work this out”
Yeah, Hope kept thinking them being married would FIX everything! That's all in her head! Marriage for them was a curse... I swear!
@@emilieb.7838 Look, Hope should have walked out on Liam, is what I'm saying. The issue I have is her dumba$$ kept taking him back and allowing Liam to emotionally abuse her. She allowed Liam to treat her the way he did. Hope gave up everything for him. She couldn't take Oliver back and he cheated on her 1x. Liam cheated on her numerous times beginning with Amber, that's when Hope should have dumped him. She let Liam mess her life up. She got on pills, gave up her morals, her virginity. Her life was better before she met Liam. Those are the issues I have with Hopeless. And she's supposed to be a smart girl???
@@emilieb.7838 Hope was right to call Liam out and hold his feet to the fire but the issue is, she kept taking him back. Jump forward 2 months, and Hope is BEGGING Liam to come back to her
@@DAVegas-yc8xq yes I know! Always comes back to Liam ! Can’t wait to see now if she will end up with Thomas 😆
I like this Hope better than the. Current one
he is now saying Steffy was mistake hes is an asole and too good for Steffy
nope hes saying thinking the letter was from Hope was
Now didn't Hopeless say she can't forget then later she rushed and jumped in bed with Liam after he fail in Love with Steffy she new what was going on then when she found out Steffy was pregnant she lost it like Steffy took everything from her when she had lost that long ago.
Oh Hope. I'm destined to make the same mistake over & over for the next 20 years
Hope acts like a damn kid. She’s always dumping Liam she don’t deserve him
She’s dumping him because of what he did. LIAM DOESNT DESERVE HOPE.
@@acupoftaewithsugaandakooki1868 Then Brooke should probably help her to keep her hands off him because his eternal back and forth is not good for her. But she does the opposite.
Are you serious lmao, your standards must be in hell
She dumped him because he slept with his ex on wedding day to HOPE. How exactly is Liam the victim?
Liam just doesn’t like that Hope finally wised up and walked out on him. It’s about time.
she walks outncz she wants liam tonrun after her. as soon as he gets serious withbsteffy she wants him back! no matter what! shennever stays by her decision!
Who're Brooke
Oh liam just admit you need steffy in your life more than anything
hope is liam real love on bold, it's amazing how some hate her so much they can't admit to what is on our screen
Bell Jr. personally show it all the time.'as a real man that i am, let me tell you, there are '2'types of love
.REAL LOVE=hope/liam
and 'Lust" as 'settling for less" is steffy regarding liam,
who is IN LOVE and never stopped being IN love w/hope."
Never will be... Peace.
@@stevejackson3847 u r awesome, get ur own blog, love when a "real man" is able to see what is real. love it! icam.
Brooke needs to mind her business and let her daughter fight her own relationship battles, if her daughter can't think for herself she's Doom!!!
Tell that to Taylor!
@@clairelally3644
Tell Taylor what she's not all up in her daughter's business and Steffy can stand her ground alone...Hope want everything perfect, she know Liam not going to stop speaking to Steffy...Hope confronted Steffy, but who she need to fuss out more is Liam...she's a drama queen at her best!!!
@@theresapoll What? Taylor insisted on going to Liam's house with Brooke. How many times has she confronted Liam, Brooke and Hope on Steffy's behalf? And let us not forget that she shot a man in the back because she dared to bed her precious Steff!
@@clairelally3644
My comment right now is for this scene with Hope and Liam...remember this is a soap opera with drama, so lighten up!!!
@@theresapoll Oh right. Because context and history have no bearing on this conversation!
I never understood why Steffy said "I'm sorry" when it wasn't her fault. Albeit Annika's Hope's is a lot less naive.
Yeah.. and Hope certainly didn’t say sorry for stealing her husband .. instead she went after Steffy like an angry chiwawa , and married her husband the minute they got divorced … Hope do not deserve any kindness from anyone,.. specially not from Steffy
@@anettv6150 That's exactly why Steffy had Liam's baby first.... Albeit she miscarried but that goes to show Liam has and always will love Steffy more than Hope. Hope was an obligation. (Remember how they got together) Whereas Steffy & Liam started as friends and have alot in common. Hope & Liam, on the other hand, have nothing in common. He was just a rebound for her and she lacks the self-awareness to realize.
@@Charlie-nd9ef Hope and Liam= first love/ puppy love thing.. Steffy and Liam= equal partners❣️ (if you want to have a strong marriage )
@@anettv6150 Steffy is the interloper.
@@Charlie-nd9ef Hope and Liam share similar characteristics and want to live the same type of life. Steffy is always there, waiting with a warm bed, just like Brooke. Steffy is a good back up plan.
lol Brooke you sent Hope after a married liam
Brooke thinks Hope & Liam are like Her & Ridge.
Ridge always ran back to Brooke, always left Taylor for her. Even after creating a family and a home with Taylor, Brooke was always there on the sides.
Now with Hope & Liam she thinks Liam should always be with Hope. Difference is Hope isn't the one Liam always runs back to, it's Steffy.
Hope does one thing )like Taylor did to ridge) and Liam goes right back Steffy just like Ridge did.
True november 2020 provet
When Ridge had problems with Brooke,he ran to Taylor,rarely the opposite; Liam the same,running to Steffy when he has problems with Hope
And thats intentional, cause Bell said that Hope/Liam/Steffy is another version of the triangle of Taylor/Ridge/Brooke. He said the difference is that Hope is the Taylor in the triangle and Steffy is Brooke and Liam is Ridge 2.0. Thats why Liam always goes back to Steffy. Cause that's his "destiny"
Sorry your vows were not real
Brooke Hope isn't a child stop talking for her
Oh she definitely talked for herself.
While you're speaking about Brooke, why don't you add a few more in, that always talks for Sniffy.
Her 🦆quack mommy dearest, Bill, Stephanie,
Remember Liam went after Hope.
Sniffy with after him like a dog in heat.
Here we are watching Liam begging Hope to stay with him and be his wife.
Ya'll think Liam's inlove with Sniffy, then why beg Hope???
Sniffy is easy.
@@amybritt4113 Well, but this Steffy even tried to bring Liam and Hope back together here, she described the day in Italy as a misunderstanding, she kept saying to Brooke and Hope that Liam loves Hope. Conversely, the child Hope would never do that, ok? The problem in this triangle is only Liam and the two women join in. He loves both. That's how it is
Hopes made Liam jump through hoops. She’ll never learn.
A man should jump through hoops if he wants a woman. Steffy spreads like butter.
Liam what don’t come at Brooke this is all your fault
Who was the letter from
Bill had Allison write the letter banking on the fact that Liam would find it and assume the worst and to sabotage the wedding.
@@UrGworlCanCan ..wow!
@@lyndapeoples8127 ikr. Bill is a very complex character with an extraordinary ability to be diabolical. 🤣🤣🤣
The letter was from hope father
Why is Steffy being so nice to Hope all of a sudden?
These characters are so unpredictable.
The writing is so weak
and we still keep watching it 😄
Whoa Baker, chill on the lifestyle the Forrester/Spencer’s have.
OMG Brooke should see everything she's accessing Steffy of she's done
2:10 does this not look like the same guy who plays Finn (Steffy's doctor this year)?
nooooo...not at all
Brooke talking about the right thing to do after all the family’s she destroyed all the men she slept with give me a break
Sorry hope that wedding was never meant to be between you and Liam
Steffy is strong but has lowsey taste in men
Liam YOU DON'T KNOW What YOU WANT or WHO YOU WANT That's Why YOU KEEP MESSING UP
Yes that's hope the strongest spirit.. you never can trust Liam
Steffy talking about "interfering" is laughable considering all the interfering and manipulation she did.
Key word did not do. She stopped and actually advocated for them. Like she is doing now and in the end again it will somehow be her fault.
@@sandraarkorful9132 ...she certainly put up no resistance to Liam!
@@sandraarkorful9132 And Hope did the same for her after she found out about Steffy's affair with Bill. Steffy just never appreciated it.
And I hate how they made steffy in this storyline like if at any moment in time,if Lim would come to her and just needed some “comfort” that she would give it to him and he doesn’t deserve that type of power,and he knows so it wouldn’t matter to him if Hope walked out or not bc in a few days or so,he’ll be moving on with steffy
Liam has the same script - I want a life with Hope, but if she's not available, I'll take Steffy.
Hope you not at steffy was married to Liam first but you and are mothers that you can have him nowing that staffy was is wife and you are the other woman
WRONG, Steffy triangulated herself between Hope and Liam's relationship with her cha cha chas, she first tried with Oliver and he wasn't impressed then she tried dollar Bill who was married and then she found the weakness in Liam, she found out Hope wasn't putting out till marriage so se took full advantage of that. played on his being horny, Liam was going to marry Hope but Steffy with the help of dollar Bill arranged for Hope to be trapped in the Gondala, Steffy has always had stoop to all sorts of tactics to win Liam, Steffy will forever be the stand by girl easy chair recliner. take off your rose color glasses so u can see clearly.
Hope always away see how your mother Brooke destroyed taylors marriage Brooke now see yourn hope paying the price karma is real
why is brook like that? why is she so threaten by steffy?
Liam cheated on Hope with Steffy TWICE, in this storyline and again in 2021.
Yes Liam is a clown but all this hurt and devastation could have been avoided it Hope (and Brooke) actually took seriously the relationship Liam and Steffy had instead on just being convinced it was fake and the marriage was a farce. Liam by no means was honest about his feelings but he never shared those ideas Hope and Brooke had about their relationship. And it's annoying how he feels he has be "friends" with the other. He did this with Hope right after he married Steffy. Like his purpose being around the other is never even business related. Business and family functions really are the only reasons they HAVE to see each other yet he always finds his way there for other reasons
Hope Liam is in love with steffy and you no that but you wished ina married with hope need time to think if this is the relationship between staffy and Liam
has brooke hooked up with liam yet?
So, Hope is just realizing that Liam is still in love with Steffy? Wow. Just wow.
Brooke did what e vry mother will do defending her cose if did happend to Your schild you will have don the sam thing i know i wold.
Grace Mukemba I would say to my daughter he is a cheater and never committed to you only ! Let him go!
@@marya6029 exatly i e gree whith you.
That is not a child!!She is a grown azz woman who has very childish ways.Her mother enables her because she always give her bad advice.Why did she sic Hope on a married man I will never know.
Why dose evrybody always blaming hope when she gets mad at liam she as the right to get mad cose if wher in her place you will be mad too
Liam married Steffy before he ever married Hope. Why didn't Hope get the clue then that he had real feelings for Steffy? Because Brooke n Hope always have ignored n walked over her, they don't get that Liam had/have genuine feelings for her!
However, she should accept Liam as he is and move on with her marriage or she would lose him.
And that what gets me. Some people claim Brooke is the one railroading Liam to marry Hope when it's actually Steffy (with her Victoria Secrets and cha cha cha's and unwanted kisses) and Taylor railroading Liam to be with Steffy just like Thomas is now doing to keep Lope apart.
Brooke just afraid for Hope because she see herself and Taylor with Ridge Lieutenant Baker say that with so much envy
What kind of mother is this oh , pass is pass
So you Sniffy fans say that Liam is so inlove with her, but yet he is begging Hope to stay with him.
Now that's just laughable. 🤣
Steffy should’ve known about Jack Abbott , Victor Newman & Paul Williams . Brooke lust for Genoa City . All 3 were in LA
Liam go get stephy back you still love her you don't love hope
Now Hope has screwed Thomas, but Liam and Steffy dont kno That.
Did Bill ever come clean about his part in all the wedding mess?
yes...more or less. hope exposed him and brooke even defenden him!!!!!! so much for mothers live...as long as there isnt a man involved
Brooke always feels she has to look after Hope like she is a five year old.......Hope is a grown woman,!
and wpuldnt survive without brooke! And watching the latest episodes liam gets thst too...they must always be around brooke
OMG this show and the ring swaps🙄
I love Hope here : 'gosh Steffy is very noble of you'. Steffy is a phony
Steffy is always phony! If she wasn't, she would have rejected Liam's advances.
oh but its for Hope to tread all over Steffy when she wants to and he only does what Steffy wants.She told him to go marry Hope in her dress and every other time he does what Steffy wants but why don't she ask him to come to her because he would
Yes, and I do notice that Liam neglected to tell HOpe that Steffy advised him to put a smile on his face and marry Hope. And, that this Steffy did as Liam was crying and declaring his love for Steffy. LOL. I love it.
Oh come on Hope if you can forgive your mother so call mistakes you can forgive Liam's mistakes
Liam will never let stephy go he still loves her not you hope
steffy leaves out her communications with Bill is how she ended up in liam's room. too many ppl saying this isn't steffy fault but she beelines to liam every time she feels she has an opening. she knows its the only way to pry liam from Hope.
And Steffy sent Liam back to Hope. If Steffy hadn't been there, Liam would have been gone by the time Hope got back snd je wp8kd have been on a plane headed for Steffy.
Why is everything with brooke a mistake
Including fuqn her daughter’s boyfriend in public at her graduation party for good measure! 🙄
Brooke is a liar
Aqui o colo e ela sendo noiva dele a novela começou nascimento nessa temporada aí ela gera a noiva dele o meu irmão apareceu e ela sabia que que a lorelação tão floral porque ela sabia que eu queria ter sido casado com a Stephanie ele se humilham ela agrada nunca
It's just craziness what happened between Liam and Stefii in Pulgia in Italy but I prefer Steffi to be Liam's wife than crying and annoying Hope:)