Jazz '34: Final Battle | Kansas City Band "Yeah Man"
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- Опубліковано 19 сер 2024
- Robert Altman's Jazz '34: Remembrances of Kansas City Swing
Kansas City Band "Yeah Man"
Credits:
Joshua Redman as Lester Young - tenor sax
Craig Handy as Coleman Hawkins - tenor sax
James Carter as Ben Webster - tenor sax
Dadid Murray - tenor sax
Jesse Davis - alto sax
David "Fathead" Newman Jr. - alto sax
Don Byron - clarinet/baritone sax
Olu Dara - cornet
Nicholas Payton - trumpet
James Zollar - trumpet
Curtis Fowlkes - trombone
Clark Gayton - trombone
Victor Lewis as Joe Jones - drums
Geri Allen as Mary Lou Williams - piano
Cyrus Chestnut as Count Basie - piano
Ron Carter - bass
Christian McBride - bass
Tyron Clarke - bass
Russell Malone - guitar
Mark Whitefield - guitar
Kevin Mahogany - vocal
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This music makes me so proud I was born and raised in Kansas City, Mo.
I know it's a (loving) recreation, and that Redman and the others blowing on the cinematic bandstand here are incomparable contemporary musicians in their own right, with hard-earned chops that that the old cats probably couldn't touch, on a purely technical level, and that, moreover, times were hard as hell back then for the original musicians referenced here--but, knowing all that, man, this still makes long for a time machine, to be able to go back and walk into those joints down around 18th & Vine in the 30s, and hear that gloriously raucous music live in its heyday.
This is filmed live, no overdubs, no edits.
The Kansas city heavy riffing sound of the 1920s was superb.
I come back here OFTEN, this is what UA-cam is all about. DAMN, THIS IS GOOD
People can over-analyze this all they want, but the thing I like about it is that it represents jazz when I got into it during the 1990s. You've got Ron Carter on the bass, Joshua Redman, and others that I still admire greatly.
Exactly! We should be thankful to the film director and real musicians who took part in the movie and made it look real. Nit picking isn't that necessary in this case. Just enjoy the play!
@@VinniePaah watching this movie in a two flat on Chicago's Westside made me homesick for Kansas City. I used to work at Wings N Things across the parking lot from Arthur Bryant's Barbecue from 1988 to 1993. This movie was filmed in locations around Kansas City where I'm very familiar with. Great jam session scene.
These guys are all great but had the privilege to play with James who is awesome. He knows this music like no one else. Also love Joshua Redman for his amazing passion and fire!
All I know is if I had been present they'd have had to carry me out of the place. Yikes!
When somebody would ask:
"What is Jazz?"
Do not answer .... show him/her this VIDEO!
ALL The brother musicians are feeling this music!
Great! The way of playing in the tenorbattle (Redman/Handy) is magnificent. They create together with the band and the audience a picture of great jam sessions in the Swing Era. The most famous of them: Lester Young / Coleman Hawkins december 8 1933. That session was not only about musical personalities (or who is the boss or whatever), but also and in retro perspective about future styles in jazzimprovisation. The Hawkins approach / the Young approach.
Love it !!! The CD is the soundtrack of my commute. For the nitpickers: It's a fictional movie not a documentary
+ToshdogII Absolutely.....brilliant soundtrack...brilliant depiction of a part of a by gone era. It may not have been a flawless film but neither was it a flawless period. The thing about nitpickers is..they ain't happy til they have sump'n to pick at...ya dig?
I guess they voted it down because it's to much Black talent.
@@paulrobinson6730 Which is nust how it was in real life! Whites had NOTHING TO DO WITH THE CREATION OF THIS MUSIC!
@@Playthellgb42 Black people obviously were the driving force of the creation of jazz (and other American styles), and absolutely deserve the lion's share of the credit, but there were always white people involved (the Black musicians of the time who were much more inclusive and intellectually/artistically progressive than the dominant white society around them, and didn't shun white musicians or white music). The harmonic language, notation system, and most of the instruments of jazz are European in origin. Jazz is, or should be, music of inclusion and coming together. Peace
Where do I find the soundtrack
Yesterday, 10/6/15, I was listening to WBGO FM (USA, NY Metro area) driving home. This was one of the featured cuts that was aired. Absolutely fantastic. The classic battle between Lester Young and Coleman Hawkins, at least in the scene, is fabulous. In my opinion, this is the way it was meant to be. Talented musicians all, not the slop (modern music/rock or whatever the hell they call it) heard today. Guess I'm stuck in the swing era. Sitting traffic, windows open, volume up have a great ol' time. In the mid-30' musicians were reaching for different ways to express themselves. These are the guys who developed swing and classic improvisation. LOVE IT.
+richramik Somebody had a nice ride home huh?
First off, I love it too! 😀I played bass in my high school jazz band in the early '70s, and our book included the Basie tunes "Fun Time" and "A Switch In Time", plus numerous other swingin' charts.
But "... not the slop (modern music/rock or whatever the hell they call it) heard today." Hm-m-m... I know it isn't Swing, but have you heard any of Allan Holdsworth's music from the early '80s on? When his album "I.O.U." was released in 1983, I began proclaiming that he was the Trane of the electric guitar. Now that he's gone on to The Great Gig in the Sky (thanks, Richard Wright), many others seem to think the same. "Big Al" certainly did reach a different way to express himself - and not on his first choice of instruments. (His favorite, saxophone, was too costly when he was learning to play music as a boy.)
Jazz is alive and well, and there are new, young swingers 'n' boppers coming along all the time. Anyway, if you don't dig what you're hearin', change the station, change the record, or walk out! LOL It's that simple, man! Listen to what touches your heart, and the rest will take care of itself. Cheers, and a Jolly January to all!
JAZZ IS FENOMENAL MUSIC!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Best thing about the film was the soundtrack. I love every song and play them all the time.
Dang Lester was super modern back then
😂
I have the soundtrack CD from the film "Kansas City" and the tracks are all awesome.
Best Jazz CD!
Hey guys, this has gotta be my favourite jazz CD and I have a lot - spends days at a time in my car stereo non-stop,'specially this track and Moten Swing :-)
I love it! The film would've been lousy without the incredible music!
Reminds me of when I was about 16 years old, and saw Coltrane and Sonny Stitt "Battling" in Chicago on 63rd Street. Had to look thru the window.
I would guess that Stitt would win that battle.
Elaborate on this please.
Two different styles. Sonny Stitt could play anyone under the table in a tenor battle because of his fluent technique. Coltrane was the creator of a style that influenced every saxophonist since. He was not known as a warrior.
I would kill to see that
I tried to investigate details of the infamous historic incident of Young-Hawkins "saxophone battle" and from what is available in the surviving interview sources of the contemporaries I remember a comment likely made by Count Basie. Not literally (I believe it was him) he said that: Even if there was such a "battle" (he couldn't recall it) no one ever made a big thing out of that event at that time in the past. Musicians routinely put up such "battles" and that was just a part of the business and not something to transform into legends.
Very nice but strong saxo tenor battle between Craig Handy and Joshua Redman !!!
WAO, Lastima no tener la pelicula completa, ESE MOMENTO DE LA HISTORIA seria MEMORABLE IR A VISITARLO, SI PUDIERA VIAJAR EN EL TIEMPO SERIA UNO DE LOS LUGARES QUE VISITARIA........................................
i watch this movie every time it's on just to watch this and the ending with the two double bass players playing In my solidude just great
best 7 minutes on the net
They must have given James Carter some Midazolam to stop him from getting up.
Jajajjaa best comment ever!!!!
They couldn’t find any. Paul Gonsalves used it all.
PREZZZZZ RIP MR YOUNG
Don''t forget Herschel...
Damn , never knew they played Otto link Florida's with Selmer ligs and Mk6's in 1934. You learn something new every day !
Raef Black you saxophone nerd 😂😂😂
Yeah, right. Unfortunately, there's no transcription of the Hawkins v. Young event. And, just a guess, but the sound was probably (certainly) a BIT different than anything we can hear today, eh?
This was inevitable in these comments. You can't really expect contemporary reed players to use '30s equipment. At least the trombonists are using small bore insts. of that era--an easier change to negotiate, though.
@@garnerjazz58 Paying attention to detail should carry a social/health warning :
@@garnerjazz58 Well there are still people playing Conn horns from the 30s (and 20s) so that's not entirely true. It's all down to personal preference!
I love good sax music in old rock & roll but jazz, forget it. I don't care how good they are.
This clearly isn't the place
You, sir, are vastly outnumbered
Since when do peasants have computers?
Rock&Roll could be just fine without any sax support but Jazz - forget it, there is no Jazz without sax... Well, you don't like Jazz - no problem.
Maybe ten years ago, I ran into a musician who appeared in this film. I asked him about his experience: Did he feel like he was playing a part, or was he somehow channeling something from that era? He said channeling, definitely.
its funny how i could easily imagine james carter on his bari just standing up and and tellin them both to shut up and then playing some crazy complex solo lol
I had this on Vhs in the 90's. Would love it on dvd today.
Lordy I do love this Jazzzzz
sensacional batalha entre dois saxes tenores....
que loucura!!!
um dos melhores momentos do jazz!!!
Epic battle tenor sax, Redman killer solo!!!
Oh shit is that Ron Carter on bass
Fantastic!! I had been looking for this clip many years ago and gave up. I'm thankful to have finally found it!
É fantástico esse documentário! Jazz de ótima qualidade!
Qual é o nome do documentário?
Pelo que sei o documentario é chamado "Kansas City"....Ele foi feito junto com o filme de cinema tambem chamado de "Kansas City"! Mas sao 2 coisas diferentes: o filme e o documentário, os 2 com o mesmo nome! Deve ter na internet para vender...
@@orlando469 Obrigado!
The jazz police are alive and well in the comment section.
YEAH! AND THEY A PAIN IN THA ASS!!! JUST STFU AND LISTEN!!!
Isn't it the fun to hear the "old" music with a modern approach? The music is about creating the atmosphere of the Kansas City days for the audience and at the time to show that it was creative music made by living musicians, the best of their days, not the dead monuments history made out of them them later. Movies are always fiction, so enjoy it as what it is, a dream trip for 90 minutes to be enjoyed.
Olu Dara on trumpet, played in Blakey's 70's band.
Dang, that scene just gets me hyped!!!
Redman is the KING!
I love Russell Malone face at 5:32 :)
yeah he deserves an Oscar !
This is real swing !!!
Good jazz, 'Nuff said.
musica che ti mette la benzina nelle vene, superba
Genial!!
Redman is raw
Ron Carter on bass!
@jbenzon1 Exactly. By the way the Tickle Toe is much better in the movie cut than in the soundtrack album.
They won't find anybody, able to play like him.
Damn good !! 👍
What a blast!
By the way, I believe Yeah Man is a Fletcher Henderson composition. Check it out. "Fletcher Henderson - Yeah Man". Hawk in the Henderson's band.
+richramik I was thinking that the name of this tune was 'Hotter than 'ell' by Henderson. Could it have possibly gone by 2 titles? That, or "Hotter than 'ell," was a just a faster version of "Yeah Man."
+fatalknivez If memory serves me, Hotter is a different chart.
Rich - you are absolutely right about 'Yeah Man' and you are almost there reagrding 'Hotter than 'Ell'. Here is what Jeffrey Magee says about it in his book about Fletcher Henderson: ' "Yeah Man!" later revised and recorded as "Hotter than 'Ell" is a "rhythm" tune that also features a passing diminished chord in a recycling progression.'
That Bari Sax player in the front was getting his drink on! 😂
Man! That's amazing!!!
Love it !!
Rhythm Changes in G
Awesome set... ;)
the drummer and the bassist probably had sore muscles for 3 days. Sensational rhythm section
Is that Eddy Murphy sitting down? ;~)
Whether this was done yesterday or in 1934 it swings! I wonder what's the objection of those that voted it down.
I guess they voted it down because it's to much Black talent in the house.
@@paulrobinson6730 "too" not "to"
man craig handy just buries him with his sound. crazy.
PA LLORAR !!
@dancingwithfrogs I believe she is gesticulating as if playing the tenor saxophone. After all, this is a tenor battle.
Redman took no prisoners. Only if James Carter joined in
If James Carter stepped in. He would have demolished everyone. EVEN REDMAN.
absolutely
You are correct, because Coleman Hawkins (James Carter) blew away Lester Young (Redman) and the Sax solos historically changed forever. The movie reversed the roles.
James Carter is a great player, but he doesn't stand a chance against Redman.
Duncan Cofell yeah James ruins the movie with his ultramodern phrasing and super high notes. Pd. Russell Malone deserves an oscar for this role
Redman is tearing it up tho
Joshua Redman @ 5:30 ... my god :o
Kenny G wasn't invited to play in this movie?
He doesn't play this type of music. Also he would get demolished by these guys
Adithya Sriram yeah, that’s the joke
@@adithyasriram633 and flattened like a pancake. He can't handle this kind of talent.
LOL
The best thing about Covid quarantine is staying out of stores and coffee houses where Kenny G stalks with vapid Christmas music!
ESTE DEVE SER O PARAISO QUE TANTOS FALAM ...
Victor Lewis on drums.
I promise you... if you played like these sax players in the video are playing in 1934 they would have kicked you off the stage. Lol They would have thought you were drunk or just trying to be funny. That being said, these guys are still swinging and sounding good for todays standards.
Disagree. No one goes far outside the changes, cadences are often on the tonic, and rhythmically and every other way these are pretty idiomatic renderings. Do you think you're hearing Dolphy (RIP) here or Archie Shepp? Yes, there's some altissimo excursions not commonly heard in '34, but again these are formatted in appropriate scale structures.
@@garnerjazz58 i think he is right, although the soloing is harmonically conservative it is idiomatically very different, a sax solo in 1934 would probably be full of thick vibrato and glissandi (maybe even some slap tongue but it was probably out of fashion by 34) ,and the phrasing would be much more rhythmically conservative or maybe with a more "melodic" feel for a lack of a better word would be considered very corny even 10 years after,to me this performance seems to draw from the post bop jazz idiom of the late fifties maybe even some of the original swing bands that were reformed during the 50s-60s (like count basie's)with younger players would sound kind of like this.
It still sounds like the fifties, though.
+kafenwar
And all that screaming is much more early fifties, bar-walking, honking Big Jay McNeely stuff. Which is what they all sound like. The ending is absurdly wrong. And since I PERSONALLY OWN THE ORIGINAL COPY OF FLETCHER HENDERSON'S "YEAH MAN," I hear they totally fucking faked the ending!!
Yeah man
Ai sim
Quem LEMBRA DO BOCATO TOCA MUITO TAMBÉM, APRESENTOU NO CRUB LITERARIO DE CAMBUI
もっと広まっていいと思う。JAZZのバトル
Muiiito booooom
wow.
jeesus! cant find this movie anywhere! :(
@dancingwithfrogs she's playing double bass
Lastly, the are several "takes" of Yeah Man of Tube.
good time, when there was not beatles yeat.. The World was much more beautiful!
they both play the same mouthpiece! which one is it friends, common Help me out here!
craig handy
2:59 when you knew shit just got real!!
eu tenho esse filme :0
Is there any way to get a digital/online version of this film?! I've been looking everywhere but can only find a VHS on ebay....
Sounds
haha, I would not want to stand up with Redman on that
kc is tha town !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! kc one those town that started n did so much but gets lil to no credit the paris of the plains
@johnonorgan I've actually uploaded that version of solitude too. :)
Who is the trumpet player at about 1:09-? He looks like Eddie Murphy in "Harlem Nights."
james carter on baritone ?
Is this a film? What movie title?
Yeah: sin red ni redes
Knock yourself out. Very good
what is the name of the saxophone player in the right?
Joshua Redman cuts James Carter so hard lol
Ron Carter looks same these days
eddie murphy on the trumpet?
Actually, the musician you are referring to is, Olu Dara, a very well respected trumpet player and an expert in playing the old blues styles of the 30s and 40s. Unfortunately, for far too many people, he is better known today as the father of the noted American rap star, Nas.
(5:59) Air guitar in 1934??? Don´t believe that...
She`s "playing" a saxophone.
cant beat Redman
Is there any evidence for girls playing air sax in 1934? :-)