For those that didn't know, while in Japan, MR R and Hikaru practiced for hours the week before civil war. They both had ample time to learn each other. Hikaru was probably confident going in because he was winning a lot of the friendlies they played.
@@BigHatSupremacist Why mention Link 3rd? Link's fucking good! Falco's pretty bad unless you're real good with him. To be fair, I suppose DK's not bad, but still..
his for the most part considered a mid tier, but for him to come third in a super major wasn't expected since there's not even a single link main in top fifty
He's the leader of the bunch, you know him well, he's finally back to kick some tail, his Coconut Gun can fire in spurts, if he shoots ya, it's gonna hurt, he's bigger, faster, and stronger too, he's the first member of the DK crew! Huh! DK, Donkey Kong! DK, Donkey Kong is here! We have a DK / Falcon / and a Link in top 8 boys and girls!! What a tournament!!
A Falcon got 2nd, Link 3rd and DK 7th, Marss outplaced Nairo against all ods, ZeRo got 49th losing to a ZsS, Leo got 65th, there were no Sheiks, Diddys or Clouds at top 8 and Dabuz won a súper major... this is easily one of the best and most important smash 4 super Majors ever!!! 1st Rosalina-Dabuz 2nd FALCON-Fatality 3rd LINK-T 4th Bayonetta-CptZack 5th ZsS-Marss 5th Rosalina-Kirihara 7th DK-Hikaru 7th Ryu-not Trela xD i doubt we will ever have anything like this again.
Holy crap being in the crowd for this match (nonetheless the entire top 32) was one of the best experiences I've ever had. Crowd was hype, game was hype, tourney was hype!
People bitch so much of Sheik not having KO power and rage mechanic being BS, but I wonder if they've ever considered how annoying it is to reach over 90% consistently and not getting a single hit in. Using a heavy you need to be very patient, that's why we barely ever see any in top 8 or even top 16 in a super major.
if you dont enjoy dk's playstyle then dont play him? im pretty sure there enough people who like abusing rage, i do because i dont have to press that many buttons, but i cant deny that its an unfair mechanic somtimes. and when i do get a hit make sure to make it count. if you want to combo then play sheik.
this thing is is that heavies should be able to see your apponent's mistake and punish that hard. Thats why hikaru is so good because he can saw that mistakes that Ramin made(and he is really good at playing save and near perfect) and kill him for it most of the time
Wow.. very mature. It was just nice seeing DK making it in 7th place and doing good in a top level tournament. No, disrespect towards Mr. R I use to be a DK main myself. So yeah..
As much as I like seeing Donkey Kong, the one problem I have with his design is that he's essentially a one-trick pony. He has that one single reliable kill option, which is the ding dong. Take that away from him and he'll no longer be of any relevance at all. And Donkey players will fish for it all the time, because it's really their only option. From a design point of view, that's pretty sad.
Wrong. Ding dong is by far DK's best tool, but it's not the only thing he has by a long shot. His back throw kills at the ledge, cargo back throw can kill off the top, tipper jab is a kill confirm into sweetspot up tilt, back air is one of the best pokes and edgeguard tools in the entire game, giant punch can clutch out games if you call out an unsafe aggressive option, dsmash kills and covers multiple ledge options, etc. He would still be a good character without ding dong. The reason good DK mains seemingly go for ding dong all the time is twofold: it obviously kills very early, but it also has a short window where it's a true combo. If you put too much damage on someone it becomes a 50/50 at best, depending on the opponent's fall speed. On some floaty characters you can literally only attempt to ding dong them once per stock because the percentage window is that limited (plus you have to account for DK's rage).
At this moment I stopped rooting for Hikaru. Don't get me wrong, he did a great job, and I was happy to have a DK in top 8, but not if Ramen was eliminated so sadly in the process. Still, good stuff.
gameandflogchannel 2 options is rarely enough options, especially considering vanish rarely kills unless your opponent is bad or you use it as a clever mixup and BF gets suuuuuper stale the longer the match goes on
crunchytacobake true, but there are enough instances where Sheik can kill DK offstage with a well times vanish. You even saw it here the first match. Also the f tilt 50/50 mixup is hugely underrated
You mean at the end? They do it for different reasons. Hikaru is doing it because he was happy he won. Zack constantly does it for fun, but also to egg on the opponnent. He is actively trying to troll, but he isn't being disrespectful about it.
Matthew Mazzatto But DK is trash and bayo is considered #1 Best because her tools are amazing. I Hope you aren't saying That DK=Bayonetta because of his grab 😂 I dont personally hate bayo but I'm just saying a lot of people do because of her many amazing tools
Hikaru is Donkey Kong in Real Life, oh my god!
Dapuffdaddy 69 he isn't a big fat black guy
For those that didn't know, while in Japan, MR R and Hikaru practiced for hours the week before civil war. They both had ample time to learn each other. Hikaru was probably confident going in because he was winning a lot of the friendlies they played.
DK in Top 16 at one of the biggest supermajors of all time, wow
Leeva top 8
falcon second and link third
@@BigHatSupremacist Why mention Link 3rd? Link's fucking good! Falco's pretty bad unless you're real good with him. To be fair, I suppose DK's not bad, but still..
his for the most part considered a mid tier, but for him to come third in a super major wasn't expected since there's not even a single link main in top fifty
He's the leader of the bunch, you know him well,
he's finally back to kick some tail,
his Coconut Gun can fire in spurts,
if he shoots ya, it's gonna hurt,
he's bigger, faster, and stronger too,
he's the first member of the DK crew!
Huh!
DK, Donkey Kong!
DK, Donkey Kong is here!
We have a DK / Falcon / and a Link in top 8 boys and girls!! What a tournament!!
CG
Coconut Gun
I popped off so hard when Hikaru won that I touched the ceiling. I also played the DK rap in celebration.
Is this tournament real life?
Hikaru with the slick side look into the camera like he in The Office when he hit that Punch for Game 3.
A Falcon got 2nd, Link 3rd and DK 7th, Marss outplaced Nairo against all ods, ZeRo got 49th losing to a ZsS, Leo got 65th, there were no Sheiks, Diddys or Clouds at top 8 and Dabuz won a súper major...
this is easily one of the best and most important smash 4 super Majors ever!!!
1st Rosalina-Dabuz
2nd FALCON-Fatality
3rd LINK-T
4th Bayonetta-CptZack
5th ZsS-Marss
5th Rosalina-Kirihara
7th DK-Hikaru
7th Ryu-not Trela xD
i doubt we will ever have anything like this again.
I think we'll just be getting better tournaments in the time to come lol.
DJ Serpent Maybe evo 2017 but we'll see xP
Dantiel Barbosa "not trela"
@@DJSerpent no, we didnt sadly
Holy crap being in the crowd for this match (nonetheless the entire top 32) was one of the best experiences I've ever had. Crowd was hype, game was hype, tourney was hype!
He expanded dong soooo hard this match!
7:42 DESTRUC-
Captain Zack needs to improve the IRL taunts. Just look at Hikaru in 13:14 and 13:27
Aptly put. He's getting bodied by Hikaru's taunts
captain zaks so gayyy
Oscar Anibal Hernandez Captain Zack is fine. Bayonetta, however, loses the taunt war to DK.
13:29
Jason's face reads absolute disgust. I have never seen that emotion in such pure form.
aaronsmileyface jason?
m2k
He's standing in the sunlight tho...
This set legit made me sad. As much as I love Hikaru, all Mr. R wants is to win ONE major. He looked so sad when he lost, I cry for him
crunchytacobake Dabuz wanted the same thing. To win one major
crunchytacobake Assuming you don't count BEAST 7 as a major.
lolz This tournament is savage, camera team swear it was over @ 12:27. Commentator had to tell them to cut back. One the most hypest set.
I was there live when the crowd was chanting the DK rap and that was honestly the best moment of the entire weekend
People bitch so much of Sheik not having KO power and rage mechanic being BS, but I wonder if they've ever considered how annoying it is to reach over 90% consistently and not getting a single hit in. Using a heavy you need to be very patient, that's why we barely ever see any in top 8 or even top 16 in a super major.
if you dont enjoy dk's playstyle then dont play him?
im pretty sure there enough people who like abusing rage, i do because i dont have to press that many buttons, but i cant deny that its an unfair mechanic somtimes. and when i do get a hit make sure to make it count. if you want to combo then play sheik.
Rush Me true true, I do enjoy both. For me it's matchup dependent, tho I prefer heavies
tbh DK would be pretty unviable without rage, he would easily be low tier
gameandflogchannel I agree, he'd literally be close to unplayable at higher levels of play. Same thing for all heavies
this thing is is that heavies should be able to see your apponent's mistake and punish that hard. Thats why hikaru is so good because he can saw that mistakes that Ramin made(and he is really good at playing save and near perfect) and kill him for it most of the time
Civil War is Crazy!!!
Dang...
Amazing match from two amazing players.
MR. R;s face was priceless at 13:10
Grima he was trying his hardest to mash out of that grab.
yo fuckin loved it when the crowd was doing the rap my favorite part of the tourney tbh
同じタイミングで
Oh Noって言うの好きw
Sheik got grabbed and lost the set at 69%.
There's a Expand Dong joke in there somewhere.
what does the X players do with their fingers mean at the end of a match??
6:30
Random player/commentator: DK's ledge options are so bad. It's really unfortunate
Hikaru: Hold my beer
I love me some dankey Kang action 😎
Wow.. very mature. It was just nice seeing DK making it in 7th place and doing good in a top level tournament. No, disrespect towards Mr. R I use to be a DK main myself. So yeah..
if there weren't rosas In top 8 I believe that hikaru and T would have had a realistic chance to win the tournament dang
still congrats to dabuz winning civil war tho
Did Hikaru win another game after this set?
TK TK BREEZY, TK, TK BREEZY IS HERE
GET THIS MAN BACK IN THE US ASAP!!!! HIS POPOFFS ARE TOO GOOD NOT TO TRAVEL!!!!!
Hikaru looks like the Japanese version of Zero, anyone else agree?
He looks a lot like Justin Wong imo.
I cannot believe this tournament
Hikaru's dK vs DKWill's DK.
Sick commentary
Is there a gif of 7:46-7:48? Roflmbo
6:34 Bro, What?! Who is this man?! LOL
this set was so stressful.
I already love donkey kong this man is a beast
Why does it always happen to Mr.R?
Hikaru is thee fckn man that was awesome clutch as fck
LOL! The camera cheese @12:27
Fred Eye the camera man tried to make a read
lmfao Hikaru's pop-offs make captain zack look like a pansy
As much as I like seeing Donkey Kong, the one problem I have with his design is that he's essentially a one-trick pony. He has that one single reliable kill option, which is the ding dong. Take that away from him and he'll no longer be of any relevance at all. And Donkey players will fish for it all the time, because it's really their only option. From a design point of view, that's pretty sad.
Alan Darkworld not true, stay mad my friend
Wrong. Ding dong is by far DK's best tool, but it's not the only thing he has by a long shot. His back throw kills at the ledge, cargo back throw can kill off the top, tipper jab is a kill confirm into sweetspot up tilt, back air is one of the best pokes and edgeguard tools in the entire game, giant punch can clutch out games if you call out an unsafe aggressive option, dsmash kills and covers multiple ledge options, etc. He would still be a good character without ding dong.
The reason good DK mains seemingly go for ding dong all the time is twofold: it obviously kills very early, but it also has a short window where it's a true combo. If you put too much damage on someone it becomes a 50/50 at best, depending on the opponent's fall speed. On some floaty characters you can literally only attempt to ding dong them once per stock because the percentage window is that limited (plus you have to account for DK's rage).
I have that same shirt Hikaru is wearing
Yeah this is why you don't play sheik against heavyweights, like at all
At this moment I stopped rooting for Hikaru. Don't get me wrong, he did a great job, and I was happy to have a DK in top 8, but not if Ramen was eliminated so sadly in the process. Still, good stuff.
I don't know why you would stop cheering for Hikaru, the guy is hype to watch.
I want Hikaru's shirt.
Let's go Hikaru!!
damn i want Hikaru's shirt
OMG Hikaru's DK dance at the end lol
7:47
He's funny hahahaha I love him
Sheik doesn't have any ko power.
Mmmeeee4 not to mention Mr. R did nor live past 100% the ENTIRE set but once.
the one time he did live past 100%, he got to 102%, then got Up-clapped.
This is exactly why I hate the rage system.....
ahem bouncing fish? vanish?
gameandflogchannel 2 options is rarely enough options, especially considering vanish rarely kills unless your opponent is bad or you use it as a clever mixup and BF gets suuuuuper stale the longer the match goes on
crunchytacobake true, but there are enough instances where Sheik can kill DK offstage with a well times vanish. You even saw it here the first match. Also the f tilt 50/50 mixup is hugely underrated
EXPANDED
Ding
Easy best pop off
Not as hype as ESAM against Ally. Hikaru's popoffs are definitely dope too, though.
RIP Sheik damage output xD
Guess DKWill isn't the best DK in the world anymore
for a long time already
Dario Vaccaro if DK will didn't have DK in his name people would stopped have considering him the best DK a long long long time ago
Yeah it was probably my bad not knowing this guy
Hikaru dances and taunts, he's having fun and everyone loves it. Captain Zack does it and he's being disrespectful.
I just don't get it.
Jonathan Shepherd It's the character, many people Don't like bayo but are cool with DK
Strange since DK has almost the exact combo that made Diddy heavily disliked in the early days of Smash 4 (throw to UpAir=dead before 100%).
Matthew Mazzatto it's easier to keep Donkey Kong out than Diddy Kong is.
You mean at the end? They do it for different reasons. Hikaru is doing it because he was happy he won. Zack constantly does it for fun, but also to egg on the opponnent. He is actively trying to troll, but he isn't being disrespectful about it.
Matthew Mazzatto But DK is trash and bayo is considered #1 Best because her tools are amazing. I Hope you aren't saying That DK=Bayonetta because of his grab 😂 I dont personally hate bayo but I'm just saying a lot of people do because of her many amazing tools
Hikaru could won the first round
why is mr. R always the bit** of smash?
hikaru kill mr r using up smash, like
Dk was so lame wow
Both players are insanely good but dk the character itself... ew
I hate kong
Edward Urban why?