The wording is not that the NWR owns 80 engines, it's just that there is 80 engines that run on the NWR's system. This includes NWR Engines, industrial engines (like Mavis and Bill and Ben), and engines from the Other Railway that pull trains into the NWR (Like Big City Engine).
So uh we just found out Barry would’ve been an Ivatt 2MT 2-6-2T just like Arthur in the TV Series and while two were saved from Barry Scrapyards there were two others there that didn’t make it so I think he would’ve been a NWR resident. Bloomer’s also in a collection of preserved engines by Sir Charles Topham Hatt (which would now be in hands of Sir Stephen) so he’s not in the NWR’s working system. Here’s also engines who wouldn’t be part of the NWR during whatever book they’re mentioned in: -GWR King Class King James I (Obviously he wasn’t on Sodor by Crossed Lines as Duck told the others who didn’t even know him he was an engine he knew at Paddington) -Any Other Of Gordon’s Siblings (in Fire Engine Gordon said “Flying Scotsman and my brothers were all green” where he’s speaking like none of his siblings made it to Sodor) -Any Other A4 Which Wasn’t Preserved in Real Life (Gordon indirectly brings up Mallard being one of his Doncaster Cousins in High Speed Gordon though if any other A4 had made it to Sodor Gordon would’ve also referred to Mallard being the sibling of another A4 with them (he would’ve said “why one of my Doncaster cousins that’s (whatever A4)’s brother went at 126 MPH)” but he didn’t say anything about an A4 with them) -Any Jubilee (in Birdstrike Henry spoke as if Jubilees weren’t around with the engines on Sodor) -Any V2 (Green Arrow said he was the only one left) -Any other J70 (in Toby’s Seaside Holiday he acted like none of his siblings made it to Sodor) Heck even Thomas Edward Henry James Duck Donald Douglas and Oliver never act like any of their class members made it to Sodor (we don’t even know if Percy had any siblings or what type he is for that matter) while when Thomas saw Boxhill it said he was one of Stepney’s brothers but it didn’t say he was the brother of any other Stroudley A1/A1x that would’ve possibly been on Sodor. Even if members of these classes escaped from scrap like Douglas and Oliver and went into hiding them being found and brought to Sodor wouldn’t be after said respective stories their classes were directly or indirectly brought up in. Also: -Diesel (Evil Diesel came out right in 1987 as well and it’s confirmed he was the shunter in the Great Railway Show book later on so if he were to become a NWR member in the RWS like the show it would have to be after the events of Not The Ticket) -Albert (by Book 41 since Edward didn’t say anything to Victoria about him being around and even if he was hidden away somewhere or something he wouldn’t be part of the NWR until after Victoria’s restoration) -1020 (Toby also didn’t act as if he had made it to Sodor so he would’ve made it later on) -And it’s obvious during Wilbert the Forest Engine in 1993 there was no Austerity 0-6-0ST by then
Iirc Bill, Ben and Mavis were meant to be a part of the NWR 80 despite not being owned by them, since they still work closely with the NWR. Small Railway Engines also mentions that none of the other engines had been on the Arlesburgh branch before, which would mean it would have to have its own engine(s) that weren't 1-10 Sir Topham Hatt 1 did scrap the Coffee Pots, so it's entirely possible he would've sold the background engines
I guess you can sorta count them to a lesser extent, especially if you like the idea of the NWR being a mix of a commercial and heritage railway. The tv series also counts them as part of the NWR so I guess it can work.
100 at most, unlike in the TVS & CGI Era of the show where we seemingly we get a new branch line every few seasons or so, that doesn't occur so often in the RWS. I'd imagine 100 engines by 2015 or so, at the very least, maintenance, inspection, support, and shunting engines. There are only so many express engines the NWR would need, hahaha! Seeing as the Ffarquhar Branch has Thomas, Toby, Percy, Dais & Mavis, we can assume that each branch line at minimum has 5 engines. That's already 30 engines, and that's not counting any of the other engines in this video. At some point, the NWR wouldn't have a need to get any more engines. Heck, I'm sure back in the early days, they only needed a tank engine or so for each branch line! We see this in some instances, how Thomas was the only engine on his branch from 1925 to 1951 until Toby arrived. With only the remaining coffee pots helping out on occasion, until they were all eventually scrapped by the time Toby showed up. Funnily enough though, the TVS never quite reached 80 engines, they only made it to about 60 owned by the NWR. This was because so many of the new engines were owned by other people/companies. The Earl owns Stephen, Connor & Caitlin, The Waste Dump owns Whiff & Scruff, Samson is from the Mainland, Belle & Flynn by the SS&RC, etc.
The source for it is Sodor: It's People, History, and Railways. "The NWR has some eighty locomotives with which to work its system, but the list below only includes those from the NWR and its standard gauge associates which feature in the stories." So, Bill, Ben, and Mavis count. There's probably standard gauge engines whether NWR owned or not, just not mentioned because they were omitted from the books.
I'm still figuring it out, but I like to use the 80 engines fact as the reason why the TV show introduced more characters than in the books. I also use it to my advantage to create my own characters and my versions of others' characters in my AU.
There's alot of original characters created by members of the Thomas fandom that could be included. 1. The Extended Railway Series (SIF) 2. The Valley Railway Series (Wolfnanaki) 3. Original characters created by different fandom users in general: Enterprisingengine93, Wildnorwester, TheBuriedTruck, Tenshine, etc.
0:30 What Awdry ment to say is that *The Island Of Sodor* has atleast 80 engines. That means that The Skarloey, Mid Sodor and Culdee Fell also count. A mistake that Awdry didn't corrected.
Well no because its written in the book The Island of Sodor, Its People, History and Railways and the railways are listed separately from each other. It isn't a mistake and when you think about it the NWR is a big railway and would need that many engines. The section reads "The NWR has some eighty locomotives with which to work its system, but the list below only includes those from the NWR and its standard gauge associates which in feature in the stories." He lists Bill & Ben, Bear, Boco, Daisy, Donald, Douglas, Duck, Edward, Gordon, Henry, James, Maivs, Oliver, Percy, Thomas, Toby. So he is implying there is more that have never been featured.
@@ejcmoorhouse I don't think there are 30-40 unmentioned engines. That would be a waste of stories. Plus 80 engines the NWR is a bit overkill. If some are in a museum, ok, but I don't think there could be 30-40 of them in one museum.
@@TobyOliverHenryFan no I think 80 is correct, I believe it has been stated by an awdry that there is 10 engines for the peel godred branch alone. Which when you think that you need shunters, passenger trains and freight trains as well as spares that seems reasonable. I reckon going by that figure there is probably 30 engines to work the main line and 40 more to work the different branches. We really have only been shown a very small part of the fleet and island in the stories.
@@ejcmoorhouse I agree, when you look at Thomas' branch line as an example we have 5 engines. Thomas, Percy, Toby, Daisy & Mavis. Assume each of the 6 branch lines has 5 engines, then that's at least 30 engines. We're also told the Hatt family has a collection of engines, (these, as would Bill, Ben & Mavis would be considered, "associates"). That of course isn't accounting for any privately owned shunting engines based at one of the industries in KIlldane or Cronk, or maybe even a shunting engine up at the Aluminium/Power Plant in Peel Godred. Heck, one of the shortest branch lines in the UK which stands at a mile or so in length, has 2 engines working on it. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stourbridge_Town_branch_line#:~:text=The%20Stourbridge%20Town%20branch%20line,the%20shortest%20line%20in%20Europe. So, if a branch that is barely a mile in length needs 2 engines, then the NWR with its 6 branches and 85-mile or so-long main line definitely needs 80 engines running that vast network.
This would all be talking about how many engines were on the NWR by 1987, so any Austerity Engine Sir Topham Hatt had in mind about getting wouldn’t be counted here since he thought about it when Wilbert visited in 1993 and Pip and Emma arrived in 2011 so those three wouldn’t count. The Coffee Pots were also scrapped by 1951, Neil was still in service up until the NWR was formed but wasn’t said to be apart of it, and I doubt the other Dalby background engines would’ve still been on the NWR due to it’s whole numbering thing with engines #1-6 and it wouldn’t make sense to skip over them, so these engines don’t count. Also with Barry it’s said that all four of the Standard 2MT 2-6-0s were the only ones at Barry Scrapyard so that leads me to believing he would’ve only been a visitor. As for what we have by 1987; there’s: -Steam: Engines #1-11 Bloomer Bill and Ben (SCC owned) And there’s also a possibility all four W&S engines are still in service (18 steam engines listed here) -Diesel: D1. Daisy D2. BoCo D3. Bear Mavis (FQC owned) The Works Diesel In Gordon Proves His Point Douglas said there’s more than one diesel at the Works so along with The Works Diesel there could’ve been at least one other at the most. Also on the Norramby branch there’s a BR joint service so there could’ve been at least 2 BR diesels working the line at the most. (8 diesels listed here) -Electrics: We don’t know for sure how many engines work on it. There are some goods engines like the Class 86s and 87s where at the most there could be two, and there are EMUs for passengers so there could also be two at the most. And as for when the Peel Godred line was built there also could’ve been two engines at the most running the line, meaning by 1987 there could’ve been 6 electric engines on the NWR at the most. We also got The Ballast Spreader. So with 18 steam engines, 8 diesels, 6 electric engines, and The Ballast Spreader listed here that has 33 engines in total listed down, leaving 47 other engines working on the NWR by 1987. We could assume that the NWR would mostly get Midland and North Eastern region working engines due to them being the closest. The NWR could’ve saved more steam engines like the Big City Engine Jinty Pug etc. and plenty of TV Series characters could be on the NWR too in the RWS canon.
The engines that make the number go up to 39 are likely some of the same engines appearing more than once. So, it is possible that there are less than 39 if we aren't including the engines that got scrapped and/or sent away.
2:10 a Multiple Unit consists of 2 or more engines, these 4 car multiple units would mean there are 8 cars, i believe 4 would be powered but all 8 may be powered. Also the fact that there are no class 71, 76, 81, 82, 83, 84, or 85 is heresy
The Arledale Railway, maybe, as it took the combined management and resources of the Culdee Fell, Skarloey & North Western Railways to construct the Arlesdale Railway from 1965-1967. However for the NWR to own the Skarloey Railway, as an example, is highly improbable. For starters, the Skarloey Railway as a company, has existed since 1864! Well over 50 years before the NWR was formed as a company in 1914. The same applies to the Culdee Fell Railway, Lord Peter Barrane of Peel Godred chaired the The Culdee Fell Tramroad and Hotel Company Ltd. which sponsored the Culdee Fell Railway company's construction. His eldest daughter, Lady Elaine, in February of 1897 cut the first sod of the line, thus commencing construction of the railway itself. So there'd be no reason for the NWR to take over... especially when the NWR didn't even exist as a company from 1948 to 1997 as it would've just been the North Western Region of British Railways. At that time, we see in the books that all of the smaller narrow gauge lines on the island are doing quite well for themselves.
Sometimes when I watch "Steam Team to the rescue" I wonder if Sir Topham Hatt has ever counted every single engine he has on his railway. Given the fact he was at his absolute worst at trying to solve the problem with the diesels being locked up in the Dieselworks when there are probably some other diesels still around. What if you do how many engines are in the TVS?
@@anonymousthomasfan1111 correct it's most likely a railway kept by the passengers and volunteers like the real life inspired Tally-Llyn Railway plus the Railway might have shut down if Rheneas didn't continue his route so it is a separate railway
My guess is that they’re technically privately owned by the Brendan bay China clay co. This might be why we also never say Mavis (owned by Ffarquhar Quarry Co.) or Diesel and the BR engines from _Eight Famous Engines_
The Number of Steam engines are Thomas Edward Henry Gordon James Percy Toby Duck Donald Douglas Oilver Barry The austerity Engine Bloomer The 4 Wellsworth And Suddery Engines A sharp Stuart Bill Ben Hervey Emily Auther Murdoch Fergus Molly Neville Billy Rosie Whiff Stanley Hank Forla Hiro Bash Dash Fredanred Belle And Porter The diesels are Boco Daisy Mavis Bear Derek Salty Dennis Paxton Sidney Norman Den Dart And Phillp The others Are Flyen and Stafford so 56
I just thought I’d let you know, most fans consider Billy and Charlie to be the first and second Wellsworth and Suddery engines, what with them being the same class.
The wording is not that the NWR owns 80 engines, it's just that there is 80 engines that run on the NWR's system.
This includes NWR Engines, industrial engines (like Mavis and Bill and Ben), and engines from the Other Railway that pull trains into the NWR (Like Big City Engine).
So uh we just found out Barry would’ve been an Ivatt 2MT 2-6-2T just like Arthur in the TV Series and while two were saved from Barry Scrapyards there were two others there that didn’t make it so I think he would’ve been a NWR resident. Bloomer’s also in a collection of preserved engines by Sir Charles Topham Hatt (which would now be in hands of Sir Stephen) so he’s not in the NWR’s working system. Here’s also engines who wouldn’t be part of the NWR during whatever book they’re mentioned in:
-GWR King Class King James I (Obviously he wasn’t on Sodor by Crossed Lines as Duck told the others who didn’t even know him he was an engine he knew at Paddington)
-Any Other Of Gordon’s Siblings (in Fire Engine Gordon said “Flying Scotsman and my brothers were all green” where he’s speaking like none of his siblings made it to Sodor)
-Any Other A4 Which Wasn’t Preserved in Real Life (Gordon indirectly brings up Mallard being one of his Doncaster Cousins in High Speed Gordon though if any other A4 had made it to Sodor Gordon would’ve also referred to Mallard being the sibling of another A4 with them (he would’ve said “why one of my Doncaster cousins that’s (whatever A4)’s brother went at 126 MPH)” but he didn’t say anything about an A4 with them)
-Any Jubilee (in Birdstrike Henry spoke as if Jubilees weren’t around with the engines on Sodor)
-Any V2 (Green Arrow said he was the only one left)
-Any other J70 (in Toby’s Seaside Holiday he acted like none of his siblings made it to Sodor)
Heck even Thomas Edward Henry James Duck Donald Douglas and Oliver never act like any of their class members made it to Sodor (we don’t even know if Percy had any siblings or what type he is for that matter) while when Thomas saw Boxhill it said he was one of Stepney’s brothers but it didn’t say he was the brother of any other Stroudley A1/A1x that would’ve possibly been on Sodor. Even if members of these classes escaped from scrap like Douglas and Oliver and went into hiding them being found and brought to Sodor wouldn’t be after said respective stories their classes were directly or indirectly brought up in.
Also:
-Diesel (Evil Diesel came out right in 1987 as well and it’s confirmed he was the shunter in the Great Railway Show book later on so if he were to become a NWR member in the RWS like the show it would have to be after the events of Not The Ticket)
-Albert (by Book 41 since Edward didn’t say anything to Victoria about him being around and even if he was hidden away somewhere or something he wouldn’t be part of the NWR until after Victoria’s restoration)
-1020 (Toby also didn’t act as if he had made it to Sodor so he would’ve made it later on)
-And it’s obvious during Wilbert the Forest Engine in 1993 there was no Austerity 0-6-0ST by then
Iirc Bill, Ben and Mavis were meant to be a part of the NWR 80 despite not being owned by them, since they still work closely with the NWR. Small Railway Engines also mentions that none of the other engines had been on the Arlesburgh branch before, which would mean it would have to have its own engine(s) that weren't 1-10
Sir Topham Hatt 1 did scrap the Coffee Pots, so it's entirely possible he would've sold the background engines
I guess you can sorta count them to a lesser extent, especially if you like the idea of the NWR being a mix of a commercial and heritage railway. The tv series also counts them as part of the NWR so I guess it can work.
I could only imagine that number off engine owned by NWR has increased in 2023 probably well over 100
100 at most, unlike in the TVS & CGI Era of the show where we seemingly we get a new branch line every few seasons or so, that doesn't occur so often in the RWS. I'd imagine 100 engines by 2015 or so, at the very least, maintenance, inspection, support, and shunting engines. There are only so many express engines the NWR would need, hahaha!
Seeing as the Ffarquhar Branch has Thomas, Toby, Percy, Dais & Mavis, we can assume that each branch line at minimum has 5 engines. That's already 30 engines, and that's not counting any of the other engines in this video. At some point, the NWR wouldn't have a need to get any more engines. Heck, I'm sure back in the early days, they only needed a tank engine or so for each branch line! We see this in some instances, how Thomas was the only engine on his branch from 1925 to 1951 until Toby arrived. With only the remaining coffee pots helping out on occasion, until they were all eventually scrapped by the time Toby showed up.
Funnily enough though, the TVS never quite reached 80 engines, they only made it to about 60 owned by the NWR. This was because so many of the new engines were owned by other people/companies. The Earl owns Stephen, Connor & Caitlin, The Waste Dump owns Whiff & Scruff, Samson is from the Mainland, Belle & Flynn by the SS&RC, etc.
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The island of Sodor in the TVS has 85 engines tho but not the NWR it has like 57
This is a great chance to have tvs and even some original characters in the railway series, so thats cool.
I'd assume the other engines would be wartime engines, BR Standards, and Big Four era engines.
The source for it is Sodor: It's People, History, and Railways. "The NWR has some eighty locomotives with which to work its system, but the list below only includes those from the NWR and its standard gauge associates which feature in the stories." So, Bill, Ben, and Mavis count. There's probably standard gauge engines whether NWR owned or not, just not mentioned because they were omitted from the books.
Watching this video alone, it looks as if I have a major headcanon to work on
I'm still figuring it out, but I like to use the 80 engines fact as the reason why the TV show introduced more characters than in the books. I also use it to my advantage to create my own characters and my versions of others' characters in my AU.
We need more stories regarding all these 'background' engines, so many underused characters. 🚂
There's alot of original characters created by members of the Thomas fandom that could be included.
1. The Extended Railway Series (SIF)
2. The Valley Railway Series (Wolfnanaki)
3. Original characters created by different fandom users in general: Enterprisingengine93, Wildnorwester, TheBuriedTruck, Tenshine, etc.
0:30 What Awdry ment to say is that *The Island Of Sodor* has atleast 80 engines.
That means that The Skarloey, Mid Sodor and Culdee Fell also count.
A mistake that Awdry didn't corrected.
Well no because its written in the book The Island of Sodor, Its People, History and Railways and the railways are listed separately from each other. It isn't a mistake and when you think about it the NWR is a big railway and would need that many engines. The section reads "The NWR has some eighty locomotives with which to work its system, but the list below only includes those from the NWR and its standard gauge associates which in feature in the stories." He lists Bill & Ben, Bear, Boco, Daisy, Donald, Douglas, Duck, Edward, Gordon, Henry, James, Maivs, Oliver, Percy, Thomas, Toby. So he is implying there is more that have never been featured.
@@ejcmoorhouse I don't think there are 30-40 unmentioned engines. That would be a waste of stories. Plus 80 engines the NWR is a bit overkill. If some are in a museum, ok, but I don't think there could be 30-40 of them in one museum.
@@TobyOliverHenryFan no I think 80 is correct, I believe it has been stated by an awdry that there is 10 engines for the peel godred branch alone. Which when you think that you need shunters, passenger trains and freight trains as well as spares that seems reasonable. I reckon going by that figure there is probably 30 engines to work the main line and 40 more to work the different branches. We really have only been shown a very small part of the fleet and island in the stories.
@@ejcmoorhouse I agree, when you look at Thomas' branch line as an example we have 5 engines. Thomas, Percy, Toby, Daisy & Mavis. Assume each of the 6 branch lines has 5 engines, then that's at least 30 engines. We're also told the Hatt family has a collection of engines, (these, as would Bill, Ben & Mavis would be considered, "associates"). That of course isn't accounting for any privately owned shunting engines based at one of the industries in KIlldane or Cronk, or maybe even a shunting engine up at the Aluminium/Power Plant in Peel Godred.
Heck, one of the shortest branch lines in the UK which stands at a mile or so in length, has 2 engines working on it. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stourbridge_Town_branch_line#:~:text=The%20Stourbridge%20Town%20branch%20line,the%20shortest%20line%20in%20Europe.
So, if a branch that is barely a mile in length needs 2 engines, then the NWR with its 6 branches and 85-mile or so-long main line definitely needs 80 engines running that vast network.
@@TobyOliverHenryFanthere are some unseen stations lines yards etc so that’s where they could be at or Smth
This would all be talking about how many engines were on the NWR by 1987, so any Austerity Engine Sir Topham Hatt had in mind about getting wouldn’t be counted here since he thought about it when Wilbert visited in 1993 and Pip and Emma arrived in 2011 so those three wouldn’t count. The Coffee Pots were also scrapped by 1951, Neil was still in service up until the NWR was formed but wasn’t said to be apart of it, and I doubt the other Dalby background engines would’ve still been on the NWR due to it’s whole numbering thing with engines #1-6 and it wouldn’t make sense to skip over them, so these engines don’t count. Also with Barry it’s said that all four of the Standard 2MT 2-6-0s were the only ones at Barry Scrapyard so that leads me to believing he would’ve only been a visitor.
As for what we have by 1987; there’s:
-Steam:
Engines #1-11
Bloomer
Bill and Ben (SCC owned)
And there’s also a possibility all four W&S engines are still in service
(18 steam engines listed here)
-Diesel:
D1. Daisy
D2. BoCo
D3. Bear
Mavis (FQC owned)
The Works Diesel
In Gordon Proves His Point Douglas said there’s more than one diesel at the Works so along with The Works Diesel there could’ve been at least one other at the most. Also on the Norramby branch there’s a BR joint service so there could’ve been at least 2 BR diesels working the line at the most.
(8 diesels listed here)
-Electrics:
We don’t know for sure how many engines work on it. There are some goods engines like the Class 86s and 87s where at the most there could be two, and there are EMUs for passengers so there could also be two at the most. And as for when the Peel Godred line was built there also could’ve been two engines at the most running the line, meaning by 1987 there could’ve been 6 electric engines on the NWR at the most.
We also got The Ballast Spreader.
So with 18 steam engines, 8 diesels, 6 electric engines, and The Ballast Spreader listed here that has 33 engines in total listed down, leaving 47 other engines working on the NWR by 1987. We could assume that the NWR would mostly get Midland and North Eastern region working engines due to them being the closest. The NWR could’ve saved more steam engines like the Big City Engine Jinty Pug etc. and plenty of TV Series characters could be on the NWR too in the RWS canon.
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In my head canon, Donald and Douglas Used to work on the BR
3:06 has anyone noticed how the engine Duck almost crashed into at the station has a sloped front and looks strangely similar to an LNER A4
Hard to tell with how far away it is.
Not an A4, looks to be about the size of Edward or James from what I can see tho. It’s more how you look at it that determines what engine it is
Wow
I never knew there were this many i only know forgotten and thomas and the magic rail way engines
The engines that make the number go up to 39 are likely some of the same engines appearing more than once. So, it is possible that there are less than 39 if we aren't including the engines that got scrapped and/or sent away.
So many engines on a such a "tiny" island
Sodor probably has the highest density of railway lines in the world...
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2:10 a Multiple Unit consists of 2 or more engines, these 4 car multiple units would mean there are 8 cars, i believe 4 would be powered but all 8 may be powered.
Also the fact that there are no class 71, 76, 81, 82, 83, 84, or 85 is heresy
I would expect the narrow gauge railways to be technically owned by the NWR as they probably own the companies that run the lines
The Arledale Railway, maybe, as it took the combined management and resources of the Culdee Fell, Skarloey & North Western Railways to construct the Arlesdale Railway from 1965-1967. However for the NWR to own the Skarloey Railway, as an example, is highly improbable. For starters, the Skarloey Railway as a company, has existed since 1864! Well over 50 years before the NWR was formed as a company in 1914.
The same applies to the Culdee Fell Railway, Lord Peter Barrane of Peel Godred chaired the The Culdee Fell Tramroad and Hotel Company Ltd. which sponsored the Culdee Fell Railway company's construction. His eldest daughter, Lady Elaine, in February of 1897 cut the first sod of the line, thus commencing construction of the railway itself.
So there'd be no reason for the NWR to take over... especially when the NWR didn't even exist as a company from 1948 to 1997 as it would've just been the North Western Region of British Railways. At that time, we see in the books that all of the smaller narrow gauge lines on the island are doing quite well for themselves.
Sometimes when I watch "Steam Team to the rescue" I wonder if Sir Topham Hatt has ever counted every single engine he has on his railway. Given the fact he was at his absolute worst at trying to solve the problem with the diesels being locked up in the Dieselworks when there are probably some other diesels still around.
What if you do how many engines are in the TVS?
I counted and it’s 57 on the NWR 85 if counting the whole of sodor
@@Ninja11125What about the Skarloey, Miniture and Culdee Fell?
@@jeremiahsisaias8677 I counted them wdym
@@Ninja11125I didn't know if they would count considering they're on Sodor but ran by 3 different controllers.
I guess big we count Bill, Ben, Mavis and the TV series characters, we might reach up to 80.
Welp I didn’t get to 80 so I just made up my owns characters
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What about the Dark Green Engine
The tank engine from the Clive Spong illustration of 'Troublesome Trucks'?
@@anonymousthomasfan1111 yes
@@brianwelch-qq3tihe’s the blue guy
Weird claim to say there are 80 just two decades after receiving their 14th (Bear and Oliver).
WHY IS NOBODY TALKING ABOUT ROSIE!?!?!?
This is the RWS cannon not tvs
What a dumbass
Just insert TVS characters, easiest way to get it to 80
Didn’t work so I made up my own
I tried this and i got 112 (but i included all era's)
The North Western doesn't own 80 engine's it has around 80 engine's running on the NWR system (so including B.R and industrial)
Where’s ur proof there just unseen
What about the skr
This video counted up all the NWR engines is the railway series, in which the Skarloey Railway is a separate railway
Well the SKR is part of the NW so that should count right?
@@SierraRail3Prod I mean it is called the skr, so it can be assumed to be its own company
@@anonymousthomasfan1111 correct it's most likely a railway kept by the passengers and volunteers like the real life inspired Tally-Llyn Railway plus the Railway might have shut down if Rheneas didn't continue his route so it is a separate railway
@@SierraRail3Prodno it’s not dumbass
The fat controller be collecting engines like their Pokémon cards
U ain’t wrong bruh
what about bill and ben
My guess is that they’re technically privately owned by the Brendan bay China clay co. This might be why we also never say Mavis (owned by Ffarquhar Quarry Co.) or Diesel and the BR engines from _Eight Famous Engines_
@@napsbrickrailways2290 Yes, that's why I didn't include them
68 That's how many they have
Proof?
@@Ninja11125 I counted.
@@E2ForLife bet count rn
@@Ninja11125 I made another comment, on this vid, scroll for a bit.
Now do tvs and cgi
The Number of Steam engines are
Thomas
Edward
Henry
Gordon
James
Percy
Toby
Duck
Donald
Douglas
Oilver
Barry
The austerity Engine
Bloomer
The 4 Wellsworth And Suddery Engines
A sharp Stuart
Bill
Ben
Hervey
Emily
Auther
Murdoch
Fergus
Molly
Neville
Billy
Rosie
Whiff
Stanley
Hank
Forla
Hiro
Bash
Dash
Fredanred
Belle
And Porter
The diesels are
Boco
Daisy
Mavis
Bear
Derek
Salty
Dennis
Paxton
Sidney
Norman
Den
Dart
And Phillp
The others
Are
Flyen and Stafford so 56
I just thought I’d let you know, most fans consider Billy and Charlie to be the first and second Wellsworth and Suddery engines, what with them being the same class.
@Ciaran Gleeson I have that same au but it's going off of official canon
Wait I think you forgot Wilbert and 16 and diesel
They don’t live on sodor