China's One Ocean Problem

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  • Опубліковано 25 бер 2024
  • China’s rise as a global superpower hinges on its ability to project naval power. But its geography presents a challenge. Can China break free of the island chains in the Pacific and secure routes to the Indian Ocean? Or will regional rivals continue to thwart its maritime ambitions?
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  • @morning-brew
    @morning-brew  20 днів тому

    Want more Maxinomics? Check out Phil's latest video on his channel: ua-cam.com/video/wz3SGJY0XuI/v-deo.html

  • @drewmqn
    @drewmqn 2 місяці тому +159

    Great content.
    No 'yay, China!', no 'boo, China!'. Just context and info.

    • @cheezeckez6843
      @cheezeckez6843 2 місяці тому +2

      Yes. The best news and content is unbiased.

    • @ravenkk4816
      @ravenkk4816 2 місяці тому

      Another propaganda channel

    • @John_Doe448
      @John_Doe448 2 місяці тому +2

      ​@@ravenkk4816 propaganda is to be extremely one sided. Read again the op's comment

    • @augustuspetrov7844
      @augustuspetrov7844 5 днів тому +1

      @@John_Doe448it is propaganda though. The idea that china is in any way food dependent is laughable to anyone with surface knowledge on the subject. China produces enough staple grains and vegetables to support its populace and then some. In fact 50% of all vegetables come from China. Though lots of pork being imported may seem like china being food dependent, the calories provided could be easily replaced with chinas insane domestic grain production. Meat imports are more of a luxury

  • @yashrajdeo1108
    @yashrajdeo1108 2 місяці тому +114

    Comparing China with Germany is a good comparison. They both have limited ocean access with other countries close by that can easily block trade. Germany learnt from the world wars that you need to keep good relations with powers that can easily block your sea access, China is still yet to learn but it may also be too late.

    • @TheAlchemist1089
      @TheAlchemist1089 2 місяці тому +13

      Guess that's why they didn't colonize as much as other European powers

    • @chillxxx241
      @chillxxx241 2 місяці тому +17

      @@TheAlchemist1089China and Russia did colonize Central Asia. China is still composed of over 55 ethnic groups all dominated by one. Russia dominates over 200 ethnic groups.

    • @augustuspetrov7844
      @augustuspetrov7844 2 місяці тому +2

      Special education tier comment

    • @augustuspetrov7844
      @augustuspetrov7844 2 місяці тому +3

      @@chillxxx241LOL “Dominated by one”

    • @augustuspetrov7844
      @augustuspetrov7844 2 місяці тому +9

      @@chillxxx241that’s not what colonization means

  • @johnl.7754
    @johnl.7754 2 місяці тому +40

    That’s why China has a large strategic reserve of most commodities and is pushing electric vehicles hard (can create electricity from many different sources). Will it be enough don’t know.

    • @merdufer
      @merdufer 2 місяці тому +1

      A lot of the electricity is generated by dams on rivers that originate in Tibet. It's all connected, and it's all strategies.

    • @Myanmartiger921
      @Myanmartiger921 2 місяці тому +4

      @@merduferchina is so advanced they make bio weapons from bat meat soup

    • @catinbootsnow4267
      @catinbootsnow4267 2 місяці тому +5

      ​@@Myanmartiger921 Seems that you have tasted it happily.

  • @dereumell28
    @dereumell28 2 місяці тому +19

    Man was I stoked to see Bremen being mentioned as someone who is from there! Especially when talking about harbour cities Bremen usually gets forgotten next to Hamburg!

    • @tobybartels8426
      @tobybartels8426 2 місяці тому +2

      At least we know about your town musicians. 😁

  • @gene3297
    @gene3297 2 місяці тому +158

    it's almost like making enemies of everyone around you could pose some challenges for trade 🤷‍♂️

    • @merdufer
      @merdufer 2 місяці тому

      When China had friendly neighbors, the US promptly invaded them. Why did you think the Vietnam War happened? China knows the US would never allow it to have friendly neighbors.

    • @chillxxx241
      @chillxxx241 2 місяці тому

      China is at the mercy of all of its neighbors. They are projecting power in order to try to determine outcomes.

    • @catinbootsnow4267
      @catinbootsnow4267 2 місяці тому +1

      Make friends with carrot in one hand and a big stick in the other hand.
      You can achieve what you want if you are powerful enough.

    • @chillxxx241
      @chillxxx241 2 місяці тому +1

      @@catinbootsnow4267 There neighborhood is really dangerous. The year fought Russia, Japan, Vietnam, and India and lost every time.

    • @TheBooban
      @TheBooban 2 місяці тому +3

      Even in this video, it shows there are so many ways China can trade that it is impossible to blockade such a large country. It also misses the Laos connection, to Cambodia and Thailand.

  • @burtan2000
    @burtan2000 Місяць тому +5

    Idk how developed China's inland sea route is, but that can be critical. Most Americans don't fully appreciate how fortunate the US has been in geography. Mississippi- Ohio river system allowed America to blow up quickly. Even traveling upriver, barges are 4x more efficient than freight trains.

    • @Maxinomics
      @Maxinomics Місяць тому

      100%. The Mississippi river system is arguably the most important piece of the United States. Two ocean access and isolation is hard to put at number two, so I'd say they're tied for first. But the MS gives us an overwhelming amount of food as well as ways to transport it.

  • @cliffwoodbury5319
    @cliffwoodbury5319 2 місяці тому +7

    1:35 - "carring loads equal to entire freight trains.... They carry many, many, many, times the load a freight train can carry."

    • @Maxinomics
      @Maxinomics 2 місяці тому

      Fair

    • @cliffwoodbury5319
      @cliffwoodbury5319 2 місяці тому

      @@Maxinomics ?Fair? what does that have to do with this!

    • @Maxinomics
      @Maxinomics 2 місяці тому

      @@cliffwoodbury5319 I was saying fair point, you're right. It certainly can be many times that of a freight train

    • @cliffwoodbury5319
      @cliffwoodbury5319 2 місяці тому

      @@Maxinomics but it doesn't have to be a fair point. It is a true point.

    • @John_Doe448
      @John_Doe448 2 місяці тому

      ​@@cliffwoodbury5319 a fair point equals a true point. You're arguing just to argue at this point.

  • @shutincharlie3461
    @shutincharlie3461 2 місяці тому +10

    Great report. This informs how i see their current military postures

  • @danielbenner7583
    @danielbenner7583 2 місяці тому +6

    Part of the reason for China’s massive investment in renewable energy is to wean it off oil/gas imports that have to pass through the malacca straight.

  • @aaronscott930
    @aaronscott930 2 місяці тому +5

    South Africa is a two ocean nation.

  • @SDZ675
    @SDZ675 Місяць тому +1

    Don't forget China's only access to the sea is boxed in by island chains and peninsulas. Some countries they have mild to friendly relations with like Korea and others like Taiwan and Japan, they have antagonistic attitudes. Then there's their claim to the South China Sea since that's their last access that doesn't pass by Japanese/Taiwan islands, but even that is boxed in by the Philippines and Malaysia.

  • @TheSurfaceStudios
    @TheSurfaceStudios 2 місяці тому +10

    So fascinating! Looking forward to the next video from Maxinomics and Morning Brew! Love it

    • @TheAlchemist1089
      @TheAlchemist1089 2 місяці тому +1

      You kinda look like his big brother 😳

    • @05-adwaithsnair4
      @05-adwaithsnair4 25 днів тому +1

      No , he is moving backward, atleast he know correct Indian map otherwise he definitely a big fail

  • @realdreamerschangetheworld7470
    @realdreamerschangetheworld7470 2 місяці тому +2

    Thank you, Phil

  • @aluisious
    @aluisious Місяць тому

    The desert region of Xinjiang is no barrier to trade. You can build railways through deserts.

  • @JS-jh4cy
    @JS-jh4cy 2 місяці тому +3

    Two oceans also gives you the reason, and motivation and long term benefits of building an long hual railroads systems end to end to each oceans with beanch lines

    • @Maxinomics
      @Maxinomics 2 місяці тому

      Great point. The US has the most developed freight rail in the world, a major asset. There is plenty of talk about how passenger rail in the US should be prioritized, but for the US and it's particular geography a world class freight rail provides outsized benefits.

  • @leonmeyers7009
    @leonmeyers7009 Місяць тому +1

    This video was so well-made ❤

  • @fangchaoran
    @fangchaoran 12 днів тому

    If China stop exporting, I cannot imagine how high the inflation will go up.

  • @perriwinkleiii5361
    @perriwinkleiii5361 21 день тому

    This channel is great. I'm becoming so much more invested in economics

  • @alvinseah5423
    @alvinseah5423 2 місяці тому +1

    There are now alternatives. Due to the civil war in Myanmar, China now exercises indirect control of North Myanmar via proxy armies. Also. With the withdrawal of US troops from Afghanistan, China has a clear land route via the Wakhan corridor to Iran and directly to the Persian Gulf. Best joke is, the supposedly bankrupt and sanctioned Taliban managed to find enough money to pay for and build a new road to the China border, and to top it off, named it the 'Silk' Road.

  • @Yajna007
    @Yajna007 2 місяці тому +2

    06:15 Kunming in *Yunnan* province

  • @spiceygas1
    @spiceygas1 10 днів тому

    Huh. I always thought the USA had access to a 3rd ocean (The Arctic) via Alaska. And Canada definitely does.

  • @briancavanagh7048
    @briancavanagh7048 2 місяці тому +1

    Failed to mentioned the opening of the North West Passage through the Arctic to Europe.

    • @Maxinomics
      @Maxinomics 2 місяці тому

      Good point, that could be a major thing in the future.

  • @cliffwoodbury5319
    @cliffwoodbury5319 2 місяці тому

    Morning Brew - you should do a video on a canal threw Russia... It is a video that came out a couple months ago, and is interesting as heck...

  • @selkissun6270
    @selkissun6270 2 місяці тому

    Who would blue tick south africa like that

  • @happyohcat
    @happyohcat 16 днів тому

    2:46 South China Sea?????? You say like there's not a literal nation directly below China?

  • @rjung_ch
    @rjung_ch 2 місяці тому

    6:26 just to be on the safe side he's packing?

  • @TransportGeekery
    @TransportGeekery 2 місяці тому

    So there's no way China can park their car on harvard yard?

  • @stereo-soulsoundsystem5070
    @stereo-soulsoundsystem5070 2 місяці тому +1

    Cool and infortmative! Watches the whole thing!

  • @WorldIsWierd
    @WorldIsWierd 2 місяці тому +7

    someone read a peter zeihan book

    • @Maxinomics
      @Maxinomics 2 місяці тому +2

      I know the name but have never read his stuff. Smart guy I'm sure, but his positioning (titles, etc,) has come across as too negative, which tends to indicate bias, which pushes me away

    • @John_Doe448
      @John_Doe448 2 місяці тому +2

      Yeah, the guy that has been projecting china's 'downfall' for the past 20 years

  • @Ijustfindout
    @Ijustfindout 2 місяці тому +4

    That Gwadar Port Wont Help Cuz India Claims Kasmir And Ladhak And Will Take It

    • @nipungupta6237
      @nipungupta6237 2 місяці тому

      India doesn't claim those places they are a part of Indian territory and Indians can travel to those places freely it's China and Pakistan that claim those places as their own territory and pick fights with us for their control

  • @christopherchapman9505
    @christopherchapman9505 2 місяці тому +1

    Good video, thanks…
    I subscribed

  • @rodneynierman1357
    @rodneynierman1357 Місяць тому

    Amazing how a 30 something can choose what to read and therefore come to any conclusion they want. I lived through the 70s and 80s, I saw a lot of things happen and almost all of it came back to the soaring interest rates and inflation that was going on. I believe the true pay for a job is what does it take to keep an employee and what it costs to replace them. Unions were not created to make jobs they were made to keep others from taking those jobs.

  • @dennisr.levesque2320
    @dennisr.levesque2320 2 місяці тому

    The Nea Tyhi's course-plotter (CEO?Captain?Traffic Cop?Navigator? ) must really like being at sea. Instead of going East, they should have went West. Only Columbus would have thought it would be shorter to go to his neighbor's house by going around the world.
    But regardless, international waters off the coast of China should be easily accessed despite the unfriendly occupants of the surrounding islands. The real issue, is who's going to control international waters. You didn't address that.

  • @odoacredacalcutta5085
    @odoacredacalcutta5085 2 місяці тому

    It's great content but I believe China's one ocean problem is a bit of an overstatement, mainly regarding the non friendly relationship with Japan and other nearby states. Relationship might be unfriendly, but barring the seas is something only an open war would cause, which is honestly extremely unlikely (less likely than a civil war in the US, tbh). Also, the risk of the Karakorum highway being cut off due to religious conflict in Pakistan is quite unlikely, mainly because, geopolitically speaking, the biggest threat to Pakistan existence has always been India, against which China is basically a crucial and indispensable ally. In other words, there's no religious or ethnic conflict that might come up in Pakistan that would put the issues with India's border outside of its government agenda, meaning the relationship with China is going to stay friendly even in the case a religious revolution (such as the iranian one in the 80s) would oveturn military power in Pakistan.

    • @Maxinomics
      @Maxinomics Місяць тому

      It's the province in Balochistan where the conflict is a problem. Not so much the Karakoram highway as the Gwadar port/infrastructure that's at risk.

  • @ecoideazventures6417
    @ecoideazventures6417 2 місяці тому

    If China builds new trade routes through friendship, nobody should complain. But if it builds a strategic noose around others like India, then they will not keep quiet!

  • @05-adwaithsnair4
    @05-adwaithsnair4 25 днів тому +1

    Bro , correct the indian map

  • @everythingisfine9988
    @everythingisfine9988 2 місяці тому +6

    USA Produces
    Food
    Fertilizer
    Oil and gas
    China Imports
    Food
    Fertilizer
    Oil & gas
    China situation is brittle

    • @Maxinomics
      @Maxinomics 2 місяці тому

      I wanted to touch even more on the food imports in this video but took it out in editing. The food situation in China is very interesting.

    • @John_Doe448
      @John_Doe448 2 місяці тому +2

      There are many more countries exporting the same thing. Ain't nothing brittle about that.
      EDIT: biggest exporter of fertilizer + oil and gas is Russia, china's neighbor and ally

    • @thefakewilliam
      @thefakewilliam 6 днів тому

      Like how China stopped buying soybeans? Oh wait...

  • @OliverStrange-oc4ki
    @OliverStrange-oc4ki 2 місяці тому +5

    Hot and smart? Sign me up!

    • @okene
      @okene 2 місяці тому +4

      Keep it in your pants lil bro

    • @TheAlchemist1089
      @TheAlchemist1089 2 місяці тому

      ​@@okene
      from horny import jail

  • @vitoanania6042
    @vitoanania6042 2 місяці тому +2

    Free Tibet

  • @LunarGlow92
    @LunarGlow92 2 місяці тому +2

    Wow, this was excellent, this is the exact kind of information i look for. The way I see it, any geopolitical news that is not primarily centered around trade is usually propaganda. Focusing on trade helps cut through the noise. It is rarely ever about ethical, moral or religious differences, almost always trade that is the reason for conflicts. Where ever China tries to develop new trade life lines, shortly after the areas are rife with a civil war, religious fanatics or insurgents that somehow result in china's investments & infrastructure being targeted along side "pro-democratic" NGOs that care deeply about the locals suddenly.

  • @0x2shadow19
    @0x2shadow19 2 місяці тому +3

    Bro be trying to impress 1.4 Billion Chinese people not on UA-cam by using that map😂😂😂😂😂

  • @luting3
    @luting3 2 місяці тому +3

    You are 100% correct. I will argue Myanmar route will be more important. But US will not like to see that. I am 100% sure US going to find ways to sabotage those routes.

    • @johnlacey3857
      @johnlacey3857 2 місяці тому

      Are you surprised?? China is doing everything in its power to sabotage the US.

  • @Jaxck77
    @Jaxck77 2 місяці тому +1

    This is a really stupid line of logic. Historically the greatest maritime powers were all on the Atlantic, having two oceans to deal with is actually a huge *disadvantage*. The US navy has to be significantly oversizes for purpose, since at any given moment it effectively has to project power in two separate directions. This was a problem the US did not solve until WWII, when the British gave the Americans the technology they needed to make better ships. Up till that point the US had been a second rate naval power that was contained by simple treaties. It was only once it had British cutting edge technology that the US navy was even capable of projecting power across either the Pacific or the Atlantic.

    • @drewmqn
      @drewmqn 2 місяці тому

      Interesting. What shipbuilding tech do you mean specifically?

    • @Jaxck77
      @Jaxck77 Місяць тому

      @@drewmqn A lot of it was incorporation of British shipbuilding principals into American made ships. The British recognized immediately that the solution to the naval conflict was going to be cheap, mass produced logistical assets and high quality naval assets with an emphasis on destroyers & corvettes. The Liberty Ship for example was a British design & concept. Radios & radar were a main focus for the British, as were the firing computers used in their AA guns. All these things were years ahead of the Americans, technology that the US was just gifted. The British were well aware that a ship without radar was basically useless, and as such the Americans built all their War-era classes with modern accommodation for communication & recon suites a mainstay of American designs to this day. British built engines were also fantastically superior to American ones at the time, the Merlin being incorporated into the US Navy air wings is what allowed for the Marianas Turkey Shoot.

    • @Maxinomics
      @Maxinomics Місяць тому

      Maybe--strong maybe--it's a disadvantage if you can't build the right navy for it. But it's a massive advantage if you can. And the US can, and China could.

    • @mintheman7
      @mintheman7 Місяць тому

      @@Jaxck77Merlin was a V12 inline engine, used for the P51. US navy used radial engines for Wildcats/Hellcats which gave them the power advantage over Japanese zeros (similar to German FW-190 overpowering Spitfires late in the war). I won’t bother to check what other made up facts you had in your long rant.

  • @lil----lil
    @lil----lil 2 місяці тому +1

    But the problem is that Winnie Xitler doesn't understand any of this. Much like Poo, NO ONE can tell him what's right or wrong, good or bad, correct or incorrect. He only wants to hear what he wants to hear "we can win this war & we can repel the Americans & her allies in one week" and that will be enough for his invasion of Taiwan. NO ONE TOLD Poo that invading Ukraine would not only be a terrible idea, unwinnable, and suicidal but it was the worst decision ever made for Russia.

    • @catinbootsnow4267
      @catinbootsnow4267 2 місяці тому

      The more Russia fights with Ukraine and Europe, the more Russia depends on China for survival, the less likely Russia switches to the West Camp.

  • @AmericanBusinessman422
    @AmericanBusinessman422 29 днів тому

    Hah, the u.s. is not the dominant global power.

  • @poonhound9377
    @poonhound9377 2 місяці тому +14

    Indians complaining about the map they claim yet do not actually control. Indian viewers, please do your research besides watching Indian propaganda.

  • @vitoanania6042
    @vitoanania6042 2 місяці тому +1

    your maps are wrong; Tibet was free during WW2

  • @PraveenKumar-kj8rq
    @PraveenKumar-kj8rq Місяць тому

    Indians report this video and channel multiple times until they use correct Indian map.

  • @redbeansg
    @redbeansg 2 місяці тому +1

    The narrator is taking fentanyl?

  • @BB-jf9yr
    @BB-jf9yr 2 місяці тому +8

    Use correct map of India 👉

    • @Maxinomics
      @Maxinomics 2 місяці тому +3

      For those coming in to comment on the India map... we are not intentionally making a statement on the border disputes between India and China in this video by putting borders where we have them. In the future we'll be more careful to highlight sensitive map areas.

  • @0x2shadow19
    @0x2shadow19 2 місяці тому +8

    You got the map of China wrong, why does it eat up India so much?

    • @poonhound9377
      @poonhound9377 2 місяці тому +9

      Because that’s the truth, look at lines of actual control. Indian propaganda only shows the parts the claim but not control.

    • @0x2shadow19
      @0x2shadow19 2 місяці тому +3

      @@sgttomas you do realise that not even the US uses this map

    • @0x2shadow19
      @0x2shadow19 2 місяці тому

      Why don't we just say the whole of Germany is China next i bet your boss Friede Springer will be delighted to still keep you there?

    • @TheBooban
      @TheBooban 2 місяці тому +1

      @@0x2shadow19whats that matter? Did he say the truth or not? Does China control that land?

  • @raj8844
    @raj8844 2 місяці тому +11

    99% of Indian will skipp your video just by looking at India map.. Jai Hind

    • @merdufer
      @merdufer 2 місяці тому +5

      The map shows the area under Chinese control. The borders don't match the Indian claim or the Chinese claim.

    • @0x2shadow19
      @0x2shadow19 2 місяці тому

      @@merdufer but you can drive an indian bike in that part and no one will shoot you so who controls it?

    • @merdufer
      @merdufer 2 місяці тому +2

      @@0x2shadow19 Yeah my neighbor walks on my drive way all the time. It's still my drive way.

    • @0x2shadow19
      @0x2shadow19 2 місяці тому

      @@merdufer so your neighbour owns your driveway

    • @merdufer
      @merdufer 2 місяці тому +1

      @@0x2shadow19 He doesn't. That's my point. Just because I let him walk on it doesn't mean he has any power over it.

  • @RokkuAni
    @RokkuAni 2 місяці тому

    What with the horrible voice..is this an ai voice!?

  • @rudrapratap3501
    @rudrapratap3501 2 місяці тому +12

    Wrong Indian map🤦🏿‍♂️🤦🏿‍♂️

  • @rajpatel-ts3is
    @rajpatel-ts3is 2 місяці тому +3

    First correct the Indian map

  • @JayantKashyap
    @JayantKashyap 2 місяці тому

    Lots of context missing. Not a good video. Focused on being YT friendly. Boo! Sell out.

  • @astdhg3063
    @astdhg3063 2 місяці тому +14

    You have used the wrong map of India. Please use the official map issued by the Government of India.

    • @CreativeMovieArts
      @CreativeMovieArts 2 місяці тому +7

      Whack

    • @shashwat4887
      @shashwat4887 2 місяці тому +21

      🤦🏻‍♂ They have used the internationally recognised map of the world. Grow up

    • @rjung_ch
      @rjung_ch 2 місяці тому +1

      what is this discussion about, wrong map? Timestamp it and explain why.

    • @mintheman7
      @mintheman7 2 місяці тому +6

      Who cares, nobody uses the map only recognized by India.

    • @Luke-dq6gy
      @Luke-dq6gy 2 місяці тому +2

      ​@@mintheman7hmm and then west asks why we don't side with them

  • @ladhkay
    @ladhkay 2 місяці тому +5

    Thumbs down for wrong Indian map

    • @sgttomas
      @sgttomas 2 місяці тому

      Brittle egos show weak people. Map seems fine. If you had the power to do something about it you wouldn’t need to complain to strangers to help you in your delusions. Weak people.

    • @mintheman7
      @mintheman7 2 місяці тому +3

      Cry more

    • @HowdIEvenGetHere
      @HowdIEvenGetHere 2 місяці тому

      Additionally, where’s Nepal?