B&R MAW /Junxing F165 Unboxing (Same as Galaxy Tourch/PSE Theory) 25" recurve riser
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- Опубліковано 26 бер 2018
- B&R MAW, F165, PSE Theory, or Galaxy Tourch. They all list different manufacturing descriptions and this one is cast magnesium as confirmed from Junxing. That was a mistake from my commentary. The Fiber/Maple limb combination is available for $160 shipped from Ebay. No other sellers have this available currently. I know that Archery Supply in AU just got these in and are selling them separately. I got mine off of Alibaba but I got killed on the shipping even though the pieces were super cheap.
Archery Supply AU has listed this riser for $130 AU $100US and these limbs for $150AU or $115 US so that's what they are saying the market value is. - Розваги
Well I received a pair Big Rock F 165 Carbon Fiber foam 790 (Black) 36 pound ILF limbs, from Linyi Junxing Achery Supplies, in China, and installed them on my Junxing F 165 (Blue / Black) 25" ILF Riser, and what a wonderful transformation. The limbs look, and perform beautifully, no vibrations, or hand shock at all, very quiet, with a really smooth action draw back, and release!!! These limbs are the ultimate must have, for any ILF Riser.
If your take a closer look at the PSE Theory, the riser is designed differently. The riser has a shaped recess, for the clicker plate, that is shipped with it. The B&R MAW/ JUNXING F165/and GALAXY TOURCH have the screw in clicker in front of the riser!
I just received my Junxing F 165 Blue/Black Riser, from Junxing Archery in China. It really looks beautiful, the Junxing logo printed on the Riser, really draws your attention to the Blue/Black colors. It looks so lovely, I wish I could post a picture to show you what it looks like. Anyway, thanks for posting this great video, and good luck, with your channel!!!
great good for you, hope you enjoy your bow as much as I've enjoyed mine. Did you get foam core limbs too?
Not yet, but I hope to order a pair soon, I 'm just waiting to free up some cash, and then contact Junxing Archery, to place an order.
The weight of the Riser is 2.5 lbs., and the mass weight is 3.4 lbs., with the Riser/Limb combination set up.
Here, Dec.24, 2020, I just bought my F165 from Junxing, via AliExpress, for $148 delivered, tonight. It will take a month or so to get here but I've got plenty of bows to entertain me until then. Good shooting. I've heard a lot nice things about this bow.
Yes if you want to be critical. Same shape vs exactly the same. Copywrite laws refer to "copy" or text but the shape or design is something that can be protected by a design patent which I doubt has been filled for these. When people buy a riser there are performance differences via small differences but I feel like if it's generally performing and has the same general specs that people really buy for the shape/design as it's personal preference. There are a million metal 25" risers that perform similarly in this category. Price, design and weight are probably the biggest factors on choosing a riser like this.
Hey, I not trying to rain on parade, I wanted to believe they were the same too. The fact is they are all well crafted, and lovely looking designs, so what ever one you like, that's great!!! If you want to compare them to each other, that's great too!!!
I received the Big Rock Archery (white) F 165 limbs yesterday, and they look really nice!!! They are very slim, and petite, as well as being light weight. I like the Plain Jane look, because, it makes the riser stand out more!!! It saved me a little bit of money, by purchasing them, which is a good thing. I have to save money, where I can, archery can be expensive, as you know. Take care!!!
Did they include a string for you? I still have my original as I made a specific 68" Fastflight type string for mine.
Yes, they included a string, which cost $3.00/PC, the limbs were $39.00/PAIR, which I thought was really a great price, compared to the Galaxy Tourch, which retails for $149.00! Where I took the hit was, $33.00/EMS for a total price of $75.00, but still, a great deal!!!
Hey will you be making another video some time to highlight you shooting the B&R MAH? Also, I was wondering, what type of video camera do you use to make your videos? I love the HD quality, and I was thinking about making my own videos in the future.
I've used an old Canon point and shoot, my Pixel and my Canon DSLR T3i which is the best. The biggest problem is actually the mic input quality. If you are facing the camera you'll need an external mic. I recently got a Rode Videomic go which I shot my lastest video with. (Rolan Arc) The Decut string jig video had poor video because of this issue.
I finally ordered, and received the Big Rock Maw, Blue with Black handle, like the one you feature here. I love it, and look forward to setting it all up, and testing it out on the target!!!!!!!
You already said you got one months ago...
I bought another one.
Just wondering if the cracks in the grip screw area have caused any problems so far?
As far as what material this riser is made from, Ali Baba's Junxing website list it as a "Magnesium Alloy", I have seen the Junxing F165 listed as being made of a "Magnesium-Aluminum alloy". The offical PSE sight list their Theory riser as being made of "Cast Aluminum".
Lancaster advertises their Galaxy Tourch model as "Super Strong Forged Aluminum". Now casting aluminum and forgeding aluminum are two very different processes A forged riser requires much more work and time to produce. As far as these risers being the same just branded differently I don't know for sure, it's a Chinese secret, but I would not be surprised if they were all cast from the same alloy. Any differences being cosmetic and advertising hype. I dont own one but would love to own any one of them.
l have one since 2 years ago, they work fine, the cracks have only a visual effect.
Lancaster no longer list the Tourch riser as "forged" but as cast. I examined one there a while ago and it looked cast not forged. You never can be positive about things made in China.
Really great video, thank you so much!!! I actually have been eyeing this bow, for a while now, and I plan on buying one soon.
james holley ya know there is a 15% off coupon right now for eBay till the 31st
Oh wow, thank you !!!
I trying to order through the company you used, but, the site is not very user friendly, and communication, is not really great! I think this site is more for some one, who operates their own sporting goods company, and needs a supplier, for that purpose. It's a shame too, because, I really wanted to get the purple, and black riser, with the Junxing logo printed on it!
I managed to purchase a blue, and black riser, with the Junxing logo, for $61.00, and only $35.00 for EMS shipping. I just communicated, with a woman named Ellen, at the Junxing company, there in China! Forget dealing with Alibaba.com, that was way too complicated!!!
Heck out the Junxing Pharos 2 recurve bow. It’s an awesome hunting recurve that shoots just as good as the top brand recurves.
The riser clicker extension can it be adjusted? To at least an inch?
Yes, you can add a clicker extension, and it measures out to an inch, or more.
The best way to purchase is through Alibaba direct from the manufacturer. I got 2 for $239 ($92 each+55 Shipping). The representative I spoke with was very helpful, Sunny He. Might be a bit more for one, but Its better than ebay or aliexpress at $150 and snail shipping.Shipping takes only takes 5-6 days through UPS. Also the seller confirmed that it is exactly the same as the galaxy tourch. I strongly reccomend them, tell 'em Cody sent ya.
can I buy only 1 unit from alibaba?
Im interested in the riser but dont need the limbs. Where can I get just the riser??
So new topic for anyone that has this riser. I am reaching out to Archery Supply in AU also. So I have been trying to work this out with the factory but they say that these stress cracks along the plastic handle screw mount is not from installation of the handle screws. I have a fine crack along both sides of the handle. I didn't mention it cause I had not chased them down to address it to me but they say it's from the mold and machining process. I'm not buying it. They also say it's on every handle. DOES anyone else see cracks on their handle? If so then I'd like to see if this is standard/common or a defect from the QC process or low standards
i have one with the white grip, it have cracks on either side of the plastic grip.
l have one of these bows nearly 2 years now, the grip has what l would rather describe as marks instead of cracks, the grip feels smooth even when pasing your fingers through those and so far after thousands of shots l dont feel or hear like its breaking so unless your cracks sound when you shoot or feel when touched l would say that you shouldnt worry. on the other hand l have recieved support in the past from the manufacturer, they give you warranty when the product is defective. the thing is that l have contact directly with the manufacturer, and you have it with an intermediary.
in short, yes, they all have marks on the grip, at least the white grips l have seen, besides an aesthetic issue if you dont like the marks there is no problem so dont feel like is going to break on you
Hey nice video, thanks. What is the maximum draw weight f165 can handle? Junxing says its a 18-32 lbs bow.
Hey, that is only the range of bow limb weights they sell in. The riser is forged magnesium so I would assume around 40-45# max weight but I could not find a max rating.
Prairiedillo. Cool, thanks for the info. I’ve contacted junxing sales director with the same. Will update on info if it’s any diff. I do plan to get this bow with a higher lbs limbs.
Hey, I appreciate your video. Would definitely like to see more videos of your perspective on archery.
I do follow Nusensi as my primary source but I ended up watching every video of yours on archery. 🔥
@@anuj_mhatre just make sure you don't over estimate your weight... It's better to go lighter and shoot longer while training ... Too heavy is a common mistake
Prairiedillo I’m planning to get 26lbs limbs for training & 35lbs limbs for long distance practice. Just wanted to make sure if the ilf bow could handel limbs above 32lbs.
I’m open to any other recommendations :)
Like a 28 lbs + 40lbs for good exposure or only one pair of high quality 30lbs limbs?
I would be using the limbs for local archery tournament as well. Archery equipment is not readily available in my country I do have to import it, the shipping cost is equal to the limbs cost.
ILF limbs are universal. I would actually just borrow a local bow to practise and see what your current range of weight is. If you have shot for while then you should know. If you are completely new then you might even start with a more beginner setup. This is more of an intermediate bow. Also medium length limbs will drop a couple of pounds on a 23" riser going to a 25" riser so that will make them feel lighter. Also you can adjust from 1-2 pounds just by working on the tiller bolts a little. Tuning the bow is also a skill. I don't think it's smart to just buy a higher weight limb thinking that you will "train" up to it unless you really have some history and experience... guess work will result in you being over bowed quit e easily. How far up you can train and build up strength will depend on a great number of factors.
If it's made by Junxing, it will have the name engraved in the riser under the grip.
Junxing makes inexpensive bows, not cheap bows. I shoot their M127 and it’s a dream. Hope you enjoy it!
By the way, if you make an Alibaba account you can get these bows for much less. Just ask to sample a bow. I paid $200 for my M127 and $120 for my Nika ET-1 ILF recurve, both prices including shipping. Both of them retail for 2 to 3 times that amount.
Nika also has a small 17 inch not great size ILF riser with 20 pound limbs meant more for kids but is the only current production take down bow that is for both hand/eye sides that if a person got it they would want to fix the grip since it is metal only. This is the only bow I know that can be bought new as higher poundage then 35 pound and dual shot with either built in arrow shooting rests or holes for screwing in shooting rest other then the Siege flatbow style longbow made by Grayvn archery if you order the duel arrow rests in the choices for the bow.
I finally set up my Junxing F 165, and shot a few arrows at my back yard target, getting my new krossen scorpion sight dialed in right. Its shoots amazing accurate, but, I find the riser a bit heavy, that's weird given the fact, that its made of magnesium alloy. But, I do really enjoy shooting it, worth every dollar I spent, and then some!!! I believe this bow will train me stronger, and hopefully a better archer. I wish you well, and I hope you enjoy your new B&R MAW F 165!!!!!!!
get confident with it, l have mine since almost 2 years ago and it shoots great, many people complain about magnesium being inferior quality but what the manufacturer did was clever: not only did they refined the magnesium casting process, making cheaper risers with good quality, but also made the riser thicker to increase tolerances to stress, maybe thats why you feel it kind of heavy but trust me, is a very simlple, yet sturdy bow
Thank you, for your kind reply!!! I agree with your observation of the F 165, it feels really solid, and thick. I was a little put off at first, but, I quickly adapted to its shape, and now, I'm completely comfortable holding it, and shooting it.
glad to hear it, honestly is a tournament bow, it can give you tight groups with propper tecnique and arrows, you dont need anything more expensive
I know what you mean, I already sheared off a couple of pin nocks, because I was crunching my arrows so tightly!!! I have been using Victory V.A.P. arrows with N.A.P. twister heat shrink tube vanes, and they really group together, practically on top of each other.
Thank you for the information, I'm going to try and find one of those cameras, or something like it.
james holley - can you check your F165 for cracks on the handle? Junxing tells me they all have this. I have stress cracks next to the handle screw.
Oh man, yes I do, there is one slight crack on the right side, and also one on the left side, right where the handle retaining screw is!!!
Thank you, for pointing out this problem!!! I emailed Ellen, at the Junxing company, to make her aware of the defect, so hopefully I can get it all sorted out!!!
james holley - they all have it then.
It would appear so, it must have escaped their quality control inspectors. I 'm glad they finally realized the problem.
The GALAXY TOURCH, is made of forged Aluminum, not magnesium, so it too, is completely different riser!
james holley I wouldn’t say it’s completely different. Same mold, manufacturer, but slightly different material.
I ordered a pair of the F 165 Big Rock Archery limbs, I decided to go with the (white) maple, and fiberglass limbs, because, I think the (black) looks too caddy, sorry about that, they are not for me.
kind of a lot of shipping to pay for just a basic set of FG Maple limbs... Why not order from whoever is shipping in your country looking for free shipping.
Because, they are not sold separately, any where else, e bay only, wants to sell the complete bow, that you have to wait a month, or more for!!! Anyway, $39.00/pair of limbs, $3.00/ string, $33.00/EMS, total $75.00, shipped to me house super fast!!! Anyway, why do you even care, how much I paid?
thats great,,, could you to shooting test for the bow please,
It really shoots just like any other metal riser like this. Good but no better
@@prairiedillo ok thanks
I sure PSE has Junxing manufacture for them, but the risers are not same, different metals, plus there are slight differences in the riser cut out windows. I'm sure Galaxy, has a similar contract with Junxing, to have risers made, but again, different metals. They can't be exactly the same, because that would be copyright infringement.
james holley. Can you tell which metal is better, magnesium or aluminium?
l think l can answer that Anuj, when properly built, both work the same, is more an excuse for higher prices than really improving performance. I have shot both and they work great, currently l own one of these f165 bows and they work great. B&R makes good quality magnesium casting risers, they make their risers thicker than the average riser, they make them to have very wide tolerances so the risk of having your riser break on you is actually much less than with one of those slim risers (cofcofhoytcofcof). The only practical difference is in weight, if you are on the lighter side of preference you would like magnesium, also l noticed that magnesium absorbs vibration better than aluminium... beyond that l dont see many differences.
@@georgeASD Thank you, very well said, I totally agree with your explanation!
Can I borrow your recurved bow sir because my bow is only a bamboo?
You got this from Junxing, right? Did you pay them with paypal outside of Alibaba site? They wanted me to send the money before they even knew what colors, size, lbs. Seems weird.
Nvm, the seller made up an order when i told her i didnt have paypal account.
Can u say where did u ordered
from Junxing - via alibaba
Which one more better sir, Junxing F165 or F179?
The F179 is almost an entirely different style entirely which I have not tried. I am more into the Sport target Olympic style myself. And the ones I have tried suit me. The F179 is shorter for a hunting style and is a metal riser takedown which can be shot off the shelf even. It's a little odd to me. Better is what suits you... They can all be tuned to good accuracy if that's the question. The F165 here has the most features and is ILF... Mimicing some high priced risers.
I though that i will get Olympic style and also a hunting style with F179, but I'm not.. So I'm using F165..
How about, if i use f165 Raiser with Hoyt Limbs..? i see that both limbs looks same..😂
Double check that your Hoyt limbs are ILF and you should be fine. I do recall they sometimes have their own limb pocket system for Hoyt.
@@prairiedillo Oo okay.. thank you so much for your info..👍
I don't know about the Junxing F 179, but I can tell you about the Junxing F 177. Both are small hunting style target bows. The Junxing F177 is a 54" bow, and the Junxing F 179 is a 56". I love the Junxing F 177, it's light weight, yet very powerful, the riser is a very sturdy all aluminum construction. I have one with the 35 pound limbs, with the Junxing logo printed on them. I plan on ordering a pair of 45 pound limbs also, so I can shoot the 500 spine fiberglass 8 mm hunting / target arrows I have sitting around collecting dust. Anyway, I can't tell you which bow is better, but, I can tell you I love my Junxing F 165, my Junxing F177 both equally!!!!!!!
I like the riser of Pharos 2 (junxing F261) and have bought two so far. But Carbon Limbs has disappointed me all along.
Remember "Bigrock Carbon 790"
Last month I broke the fourth bottom Limb. My drawlength is 29 inches. Is that great?
Junxing treats me as a swindler and refuses to respond.
Say it again. Risers are very useful. And wouldn't the aluminum stick break?
Don't test the texture of your skin with a carbon Limb. In my case, debris splashed into my eyes. Fortunately, I am wearing glasses, but the deep wound in the lens was serious.
Carbon Limbs "Bigrock 790"
Also known as the PSE Theory FX
You already had that in the title LOL
The FX has slight differences that are more significant like the cutout shapes. I consider it less of a clone/rebrand.
This is not the same as the PSE Theory. If you will look, the limb alignment hardware is much different. However this is the same as the Galaxy Torch. I myself own the Galaxy Torch and love it. I would recommend the Galaxy Torch to anyone.
Yes I know what you are talking about. Early junxing 165s have it similar to the theory from what I have seen in photos. I believe both went through cost saving adjustments. Theory went through model revisions to reflect some changes.
@@prairiedillo There was the PSE Theory, and then the revised PSE Theory FX. I think we all understand now!
Price for nepal
The Theory riser, is also made of Aluminum, not magnesium, so it is a different riser entirely!
Junxing all but confirmed with me that they make the Theory. The current theory has the nsame clicker extension. PSE lists theirs as cast alum. Junxing says Magnesium and Galaxy lists theirs as Forged Aluminum.
Ok I see what you mean now, the PSE theory, is different from the PSE theory FX. One has the screw in clicker, and the other a clicker plate!
I have played around with a few sources but have recently settled on using my Can on DSLR T3i with a mic attachement. Some good phones would work also but the mic input is low. I don't feel like there's a need to show it shooting as it's much like other bows in the category. Nothing stands out in pro or con.
Oh, that's ok, I just thought it would be cool, to see it in action, as well as some of your other bows, you featured in your other videos.
Please make a shot video
It really shoots like any other good bow. All metal risers seem to have a ring tone to them for me but I really enjoy shooting this bow as my bare bow setup. It's fairly beefy/heavy so I prefer not to add any other attachments to it other than a sound dampener. Heavy only cause my main bow is a CF riser.