A Nice Equation of Powers | Turkish National Maths Olympiad 2014

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  • @sadececns00
    @sadececns00 10 місяців тому +1

    Thanks for the video!!!! Greetings from Adana,Türkiye🤩🤩

  • @mcwulf25
    @mcwulf25 Рік тому +2

    Similar solution. We can reduce options further because the product is odd so GCD must be 3 or 1.
    In your (1) we know there are no solutions because the LHS is a multiple of 3 and the RHS a multiple of 7.
    So with GCD=3, we know the factors must be 3*7^z and 3^(y-1). (We can discard x-2=3 by substituting in the quadratic factor, and it is not a multiple of 7).

  • @vacuumcarexpo
    @vacuumcarexpo Рік тому +3

    This is an intriguing question!

  • @SuperYoonHo
    @SuperYoonHo Рік тому +1

    Amazing!!!

  • @rudipaganelli3398
    @rudipaganelli3398 Рік тому +3

    What a nice solution involving a lot of tricks! The way you justify every step is really fine for me. Thanks for sharing.

    • @leif1075
      @leif1075 Рік тому +2

      He doesn't justify why c has to be 1or.less though..

    • @itzjanosbtw1509
      @itzjanosbtw1509 Рік тому

      ​@@leif1075bcs for c>1 the square is congruent to 6(mod 9) which is a contradiction

  • @keishakwok4333
    @keishakwok4333 6 місяців тому

    For the c=0 case, another way after realising the 7^d part, may be: c=0, so 3 doesn't divide (x+1)^2, so doesn't divide (x+1), so doesn't divide (x-2), so a = 0, x = 3, but then x^2+2x+4 = 19 which isn't a power of 7, so empty set

  • @otakurocklee
    @otakurocklee Рік тому

    Very nice!

  • @filipristovski88
    @filipristovski88 Рік тому

    Can you maybe solve more problems that relates to sequences and requrence relations. Nice solution btw

  • @mobiusmathematics6901
    @mobiusmathematics6901 Рік тому +2

    Hey do you have any advice for people who want to get better at solving these kinds of equations? I’d love to feature some on my channel

  • @tridibeshsamantroy9837
    @tridibeshsamantroy9837 Рік тому +2

    Sir can you please upload some double integral problems that were asked in PUTNAM

  • @e39emfive
    @e39emfive Рік тому +1

    How about taking mod 3 of x. The answer is x ≡2. Substituting x=3k+2 into (x-2)(x^2+2×+4) you get 3k(...).
    Since k shoud be either 3 or 7 , checking with those into(x^2+2x+4),(of course with substitution with x=3k+2) gives you the answer.

    • @kimloantranthi6335
      @kimloantranthi6335 Рік тому

      why can't k be a power of 3.7 such as 3^a.7 or 3.7^b

    • @e39emfive
      @e39emfive Рік тому

      @@kimloantranthi6335 how about substituting k=21n(n=multiples of 3 and 7 ) into x^2+2x+4 , which is 3k^2+6k+4.

    • @kimloantranthi6335
      @kimloantranthi6335 Рік тому

      @@e39emfive raising 21 to the second power ( when you plug k=21n into 3k^2) doesn't sound too ideal, but you can try

  • @leif1075
    @leif1075 Рік тому +1

    I don't see why anyone would.think to rewrite x squared plus 2x plus 4 as x plus 1 squared plus 3..and I any case I don't see why that tells you c has to be1..it could be more if x us 1 could be a larger multiple of 3 than 9..

    • @mcwulf25
      @mcwulf25 Рік тому

      You get the same answer if you write it as the more obvious (x-2)^2 + 6x and GCD(x-2,6x) = GCD(x-2,6x-6(x-2)) = GCD(x-2,12).

  • @bait6652
    @bait6652 Рік тому +1

    Wow never knew to find gcd of var-fx, wsh i saw these in my younger days....how to know its gcd with 12

  • @disoriented3971
    @disoriented3971 Рік тому

    I'm not clear on how you get a gcd of 12. Try plugging in various values for x in both "x-2" and "x^2 + 2x + 4" and take their quotient... it's not going to have a remainder of 12

    • @TheArizus
      @TheArizus Рік тому

      The gcd divides 12 and no divisor of 7 divides 12 except 1.
      However when x is odd and x=1(mod3) they actually do have a gcd of 1 sometimes e.g x=7 so...

    • @awindwaker4130
      @awindwaker4130 Рік тому

      12 is the remainder when you do polynomial long division

    • @mcwulf25
      @mcwulf25 Рік тому

      It will have a remainder of 12 in the solution though.
      I show another way of getting GCD=12 in another comment.

  • @willbishop1355
    @willbishop1355 Рік тому +1

    Explanation of this one was pretty convoluted. Maybe slow down and write more next time.

  • @mathcanbeeasy
    @mathcanbeeasy Рік тому +3

    For the first case, at 4:35, why mode 6 and all that explanations?
    Is obvious that LHS is multiple of 3, but 7^b is not multiple of 3. 🙂
    And maybe is better to prove more accurately than c is at most 1 in (x+1)^2+3=3^c*7^b. I will complete you.
    Indeed, if that expression is divisible with 3 than (x+1)^2 is multiple of 9
    So, (x+1)^2+3=9*p^2+3=3*(3p^2+1)
    And 3*p^2+1 cannot be multiple of 3 because is always the next number after a multiple of 3. Therefore the expression is divisible at most one time with 3.
    Very good the gcd (x -2, x ^2+2x+4). Is the key to the entire solution.
    Congrats for another nice problem.

    • @mcwulf25
      @mcwulf25 Рік тому

      I agree - mod 3 or just spotting it's a multiple of 3 is enough to say there are no solutions.

  • @daoudandiaye4636
    @daoudandiaye4636 Рік тому +1

    🤝

  • @user-ry6ey8gq3t
    @user-ry6ey8gq3t Рік тому

    J

  • @MrLidless
    @MrLidless Рік тому

    This should be solved in a quarter of the time. The methods used here are kindergarten, and I doubt that’s the target audience. 1/5. Has done, can do, and will do better.

  • @CglravgHRjsksgS
    @CglravgHRjsksgS Рік тому

    You are doing everything very quickly and that's annoying... Why c is bounded?