9:34 The Minecraft physics engine can perfectly well implement a glide that is triggered by pressing the jump twice, that's exactly what an item in the base game known as the Elytra does. Sega though could throw the excuse of not knowing Minecraft is capable of this type of movement in the base games engine but Mojang has no excuse.
@@TechBlade9000 then I guess Mojang has an excuse then. It being that they're not respon- wait no, are they the ones who authorized it however, does this need to pass a quality check first?
@@Solesteam Mojang only select a few levels and a few different characters when testing. Infact, the people that test the DLC are random people from the Minecraft Dungeons staff team (or atleast thats what i heard), so its very possible the play-testers didnt know Knuckles could glide.
Its better on other devices don't blame the switches crappy functionality there is nothing actually wrong with this mod you guys just wanna hate on sonic so knock it off.
What's funny is that the main sonic event was on the hive(a minecraft server). The marketplace one was side content. Also the server one was free to play and so much fun. The sonic event that happened after the timer went down eggman/robotnik takeover.
I genuinely think this could’ve been saved by including a level editor, or at least an easy way to use the assets in your own world. Alas, that’s sadly not the case, soooo yeah we’re still stuck with just a few levels and that’s it.
Minecraft is square with some rectangles scattered around Sonic has round slopes and sometimes with some geometric objects This is a brilliant idea that can't go wrong in any way.
17:46 I can see why they chose that as the special stage, it's something Minecraft and Sonic has in common, there's a few well known maps that implement a very similar design to those special stages, jump down a hole and don't splatter into the floor, except the goal is surviving, not collecting 7 magic gems.
Sonic: A platformer with several branching paths and interesting level gimmicks Minecraft: A game where you can do literally anything you want, with an infinite world Sonic Minecraft DLC: Incredibly linear levels that are just the same handful of copy-pasted setpieces
I watched that first stream. That was painful. I wasn't sure how you could find any good in the bad aside from the fanservice. You managed to find plenty to talk about. You are truly a master of your craft.
I'm not an english native speaker so when I saw the title I though about the most used online form of peg, good thing that you put an image when you mentioned it on the video
As an English speaker, just a quick correction, its "PUT" not "PUTTED" even in the tense ur using it, "putted" is not a word. All respect given tho, just a correction of ur grammar
also as a native english speaker, it's "title", not "tittle". tittle is the name for the dots on top of letters like i and j. but that's just nitpicking
Honestly, although the quality of the DLC was pretty inconsistent at times, I can certainly say with confidence (as both a Sonic and Minecraft player) that seeing Sky Sanctuary with such a _beautiful_ blockset makes me salty that those cream-coloured bricks aren't in the main game.
"why can't I enjoy these things without the creators being absolute garbage" 11:06 - 11:10 this is something a lot of people seem to misunderstand these days. you are allowed to enjoy/play/consume a product even if you don't like the artist/creator. enjoying that work does not validate their views, and neither does it invalidate yours.
I can't tell you how much I agree with this statement. Without HP Lovecraft generations of my favorite artists and in turn art wouldn't exist. My life would genuinely worse without his work. He also would've had me killed if he'd had the chance with how insanely racist he was. But without his work, some of my favorite stories wouldn't have been told. His hate died with him but his work and legacy lives on. Now people are finding ways to grapple with how his hate influenced art and how to address that in modern interpretations. Long story short. Notch is an ignorant chud, but that has next to nothing to do with minecraft. Like not at all.
I went into this video knowing Nick's reactions from Twitter and expected to watch a very biased video of this DLC in a negative light. So I'm pleased to see that wasn't the case and Nick gave the PC version a shot as well. Great video man! Thanks for sticking with it to the end! Nice highlight of all 'The Hive' limited time content too!
8:13 Man, that sounds terrible. I'd hate to play with control like that. I really uh........really hope that sort of thing never makes its way into the actual Sonic games. Wouldn't THAT be SUCH A PAIN? YUP. S-SURE WOULD.... *Stares judgmentally at Sonic Forces*
This was such a great Video! What I love about this channel is how your opinons on games aren't black and white, good or bad, and this highlights that.
As I was watching you play through the Minecraft Chemical Plant Zone, I really started comparing this space with that of 'Sonic Robo Blast 2'. Nice to see you bring that fangame up.
I think the reason the Super Mario DLC was just a reskin was because it was included on the Wii U physical copy. The Wii U version is considered the Legacy Console Edition. I'm pretty sure they aren't the same version of Minecraft, so when Minecraft came to switch they simply ported the map and textures.
Knuckles' glide still doesn't make sense then though. Minecraft has elytra, now I'm not sure if they were using any actual items to help with the physics but it wouldn't be too farfetched to just automatically equip invisible elytra wings to work as Knuckles' glide, right? This isn't even a game-mechanic problem, it's pure stupidity on their end
@@saiqa7130 true, but if they're changing the ingame physics i'm sure they could just take the base concept of "jump button mid-air to glide" and remove the other physics to them
you know what wouldve been even better? if they stopped trying to make minecraft something that its not and just made a texture pack, map, and skin pack bundle.
@@drcheesenut896 you dont get it bro. cool things can be done with custom models, comand blocks, and behavior packs. but at what point is it just not minecraft anymore? If you have a skin pack and texture pack you can use that for anything, its creative. Ignoring minecraft's limitations and adding in whatever models in that you please, rather than building these things with the blocks given to you, is not creative.
Glad you got a chance to walk around the Hive's Silent Hill themed lobby. Quite an odd choice for a collab I must say but wacky crossovers are always welcome!
9:23 knuckles is actually the best character of the bunch, his glide is actually a reused elytra. If you get to a high point, you can just fly over the stage! Pretty neat huh?
Freaking fantastic video as always bro! It actually makes me wanna pick up Sonic Minecraft again despite me not enjoying it loll. Also The Trey Nobles Cameo at 10:33
I’m so sad that you can’t do anything with the choa garden! I feel like something like that would really fit well with Minecraft, and like you said, the styles are aesthetics are *super* different
Notch actually made tweets against some of the more negative things he's said in the past, it's just that twitter doesn't show them to people because of the fact that those tweets don't get interacted with.
It's always nice to know a content creator you like is not a transphobe. Not that I assumed you were, but it's nice just knowing you're not, I've been surprised before.
I can't help but wonder if you would have had a much better time with this if you had played some vanilla Minecraft beforehand. Things like Knuckles' glide were so easy for me to become accustomed to because, well, it's built on Minecraft gameplay. I saw it and was like "ah, its like Riptide combined with the Elytra, cool" and never worried about it again. Things like the sprint button I expected to be there because I've been playing Minecraft and doing high speed parkour maps since I was 11. Not disparaging your critique and I definitely agree with you in a lot of places, but some things seem like somebody who's never played Minecraft before coming in to play a Sonic game instead of a hybrid
People always say they like Sonic just for speed, this is what they get Sonic is a platformer I don’t want him to just run without platforming or having fun
@@johnathonturner2279 It's mechanics are optimized for fast movement, but some people think you are supposed to constantly run forward and little else, which is why they get frustrated when that doesn't work and then claim Sonic games are "fundamentally flawed". You are actually supposed to not only be good at platforming, but exploit the momentum-based mechanics to gain as much speed as possible _while_ doing good platforming. Basically, speed is a reward you get for being good at the game, not something the game is supposed to hand over to you without putting any effort into it, which is how some people want to approach the games. That's what I mean when I say Sonic isn't all about speed.
@@inendlesspain4724 However, the main draw is still that Sonic is able to move a break neck speed. If the platforming cannot be overcome quickly, then the pace is dragged down and you are better off playing Mario or Crash. And before you bring up this whole "earning speed" shtick, bear in mind that most people aren't going to want to learn the mechanics to go fast if a first playthrough isn't satisfying. If people don't get that satisfaction of speed that was promised the first time, what would lead them to trying a second time? Frankly, since you're clearly shitting on the Boost games, I'd say it (specifically Generations) does a good job of conveying speed on the first playthrough that it does a good job of encouraging playing through the stages again and learning to use Sonic's moveset and learn the levels to get even better times.
@@johnathonturner2279 When I wrote that comment I was mostly thinking about the Genesis games since those are the games that layed the foundations for the rest of the series. Those games were supposed to be replayed multiple times to master the mechanics, that was something common with most games at the time and people understood that, and since it's been a thing with Sonic games since the beginning I consider it a fundamental trait of the series, and if other people have difficulty getting into the games because of that, sucks for them, but that doesn't make the games bad or flawed. If I was shitting on something, it was game critics and journos, who seem to want to just press right constantly and somehow expect the games to win themselves or something. And on that note, I know Doom fans were really angry at them when they were criticizing Eternal for being "unbalanced" when in reality the game was forcing the player to properly learn its mechanics to progress, but they refused to and then blamed the game for it. Just saying, if other communities don't accept people criticizing their favorite games for sucking at them because they don't want to properly learn their mechanics, why should we with Sonic games? I know some of the boost games have good level design that aren't based solely on boosting through everything, like Generations as you said and, even though I haven't played it myself yet, I've heard Unleashed also does that, I've even heard that it does it even better than Generations'. A good example of a game that exercises that "Sonic is supposed to be all about speed" philosophy I was talking about is, of course, Forces, which I think learnt the worst lessons from past boost games. For 2D Sonic there's Advance 2, which is often considered a sort of prototype of the boost formula. The boost games have their highs and lows, but I don't know why you just assumed I was shitting on the formula as a whole, even though I have to admit it's not my favorite type of Sonic game.
Considering how easy it is to be labeled a "transphobe", I don't think it's right to freak out at that accusation. I don't know what Notch specifically said, but Rowling said something that was eminently reasonable (that you should respect trans people's genders but that sex still exists) and she still got dogpiled for it. The fact of the matter is that if you have even the slightest disagreement with the trans activist lobby, you become a persona non grata. It seems like there are a lot of people out there convinced this is their modern day civil rights movement and are desperate to be on the right side of history, while ignoring that sometimes other people have valid points. Unless you're actively saying that trans people should be killed or have rights stripped away from them, you're not a transphobe. Saying that biological women need spaces away from biological men is not hateful. Hell, even saying that trans women are still biologically men is not transphobic, since it's actually true and has certain implications regarding things like deciding where criminals go to prison. And even if you disagree with all those positions, it's wrong to label someone as hateful and contribute to their unpersoning by perpetuating that lie.
It is pretty dishonest to claim that the only thing that all that JK Rowling said is "sex is real". Just recently she made a tweet which implied that trans women were rapists, or at least that men were claiming to be trans women to rape them, which there is no evidence to support is actually happening. She has also defended a person who compared being transgender to blackface, and used a rejected study that used dubious data collection methods to claim that there is an epidemic of girls transition who aren't really transgender, which isn't actually happening. When saying that cis women need spaces away from "biological men", you are basically saying that you don't care about the safety of trans women, who are at a greater safety risk when they aren't allowed in women's spaces. There is, again, no evidence to suggest that letting trans women in women's spaces puts cis women at a greater risk. What Notch said was also worse than what JK Rowling said. He called being transgender a "delusion" and a "mental illness". I don't know how calling transgender people delusional could be defended as not transphobic.
First off, Game Apologist videos are back. Second, The Harry Potter video is finally coming. (I'm so excited about that one) Third, SAGE 2021 trailer will launch shortly. This is truly a good day.
Here's a bit of a tip for playing minecraft, don't try to play the whole game in 3rd person, it's best in 1st person so you can see right in front of you
Here's my prediction for the new sonic game: Either its an amazing game that does everything right and is exactly what the series needed Or It's a 3 hour boost to win
I played Sonic Minecraft on Xbox because, it worked much better. I would also recommend not using 3rd person pov, Minecraft isn't meant to really be played like that.
2:57 when i found out he was on switch and it froze, i instantly fell into another loop of the youtuber that always said that one phrase when the game froze or if they died... "tHE reAs0n i'M hErE-"
Those loop physics remind me of when SRB2 was just beginning to implement slopes. To be clear, Sonic Team Jr. made slopes work in a modified DOOM engine. Edit: I just got to the end of the video.
Just from watching other people playing this on the switch, I can say, that EVEN AN IPHONE 7 RUNS THIS DLC BETTER Edit: Plus I think, that it would be way better, if the levels were 2d (one line and camera from side).
At least you got to play it. I bought this on switch using saved up gold points, took 5 minutes to figure out how to make a damn world for it, and took 15 minutes to load up. Then I entered green hill zone, game literally CRASHED the moment i hit the first ring box. Then when I reopened minecraft and loaded up the world, and no matter what i did, I could not play a single level. I even deleted it and made an entirely new world, and no luck.
Don't let this distract you from the fact bedrock edition worlds used to always get corrupted after like 3 weeks of play. It's been a 100% chance for years so it could probably still be around.
Sonic Minecraft is charming, but very janky. Tedious too. The Switch port is very unreliable, i was gifted it and it was a very poor job. Sold it a week or two after. Takes forever to load and the settings with internet etc, is very poorly done. I have been ranting on about a port that has nothing to do with Sonic and Nick can clearly review it better than a guy in the comments, but it is a DLC to a janky port after all. Overall I think the DLC was a huge cash grab.
@@7liner That is literally the only negative of Java, and mods fix that so it basically runs just as well. Not to mention about 90% of computers run it just fine, it's older hardware that has the issues.
the thing about minecraft maps is that you'll always expect them to be kinda broken What amazes most people is how visually pleasing they look and the level os detail people put into these. some years ago, I'd never expect to see something like this This map is not really for hardcore sonic fans who want a fully polished game But for minecraft players who just happen to like sonic and wanna have fun Also yeah, your momentum stops if you stop pressing w while running that's just minecraft it's pretty much built around first person so uhhh how about you just move your mouse? or maybe not let go of W
Bro I heard my boi flame grilling minecraft at the start and I was bouta flame grill him, but honestly I think he got it exactly right. I mean I didn't buy the sonic dlc but I played the Hive event on my xbox (with no harddrive breaking issues) and while yes it was frustrating at times. I genuinely had a lot of fun clearing out that ring shop and don't even get me started on that live event! It was so good I loved it! So yes Sonic and Minecraft were two games never meant to mix, but the people at Mojang and Hive went above and beyond to give us maybe not something good but probably the best we were going to get from something like this, and I can appreciate that. I mean I had an awesome time pointing out all of the references to my friends who have never even touched a Sonic game
One of your trans fans here. I always hold my breath when a youtuber I like approaches the topic of transphobia, so I appreciate you being funny about it and making it seem like being an ally isn't even a big deal 💛 toot toot sonic warrior!
"Man, I wish we could play as Knuckles/Tails/Amy in a 3D Sonic game again"
*One finger on the monkey's paw curls*
I ruined the 69
Also nice.
this comment aged like a fine wine
literally those exact three characters were confirmed for frontiers dlc
lmao
@@fours1524 I am legit really hyped for them! And the new story content!
DLC WAVE 3 BAYBEEEEEE
9:34 The Minecraft physics engine can perfectly well implement a glide that is triggered by pressing the jump twice, that's exactly what an item in the base game known as the Elytra does. Sega though could throw the excuse of not knowing Minecraft is capable of this type of movement in the base games engine but Mojang has no excuse.
Mojang didn't make this DLC, infact most Minecraft DLC is never Mojang
It's always "random" established Bedrock modders
@@TechBlade9000 then I guess Mojang has an excuse then. It being that they're not respon- wait no, are they the ones who authorized it however, does this need to pass a quality check first?
@@Solesteam That's a good question my guy, but one I don't think will be answered
@@Solesteam Mojang only select a few levels and a few different characters when testing. Infact, the people that test the DLC are random people from the Minecraft Dungeons staff team (or atleast thats what i heard), so its very possible the play-testers didnt know Knuckles could glide.
@@gamingnubs7628 He glides, but in a strange and tedious way.
I love how this went from sonic to shitting on the switch, had me dead
Lol
I want a video on the online features of MC Switch ( I just want a rant so I can release my boiling rage
*haha switch bad*
Am I fucking funny yet?
@@CoralCopperHead never have been
@@CoralCopperHead the switch ain't bad, the joy cons are, get a pro controller scrub. Lol imagine using joy cons
To me Sonic Minecraft is quite literally everything that could go wrong with translating sonic into 3D, but I still enjoyed it and I don’t know why
I agree
its charming, still has potential and has its heart in the right place
Its better on other devices don't blame the switches crappy functionality there is nothing actually wrong with this mod you guys just wanna hate on sonic so knock it off.
@@cloadmario3263 nobody is hating sonic it is just a conversation about 2d to 3d
@@Doopyhpp but sonic did great in 3d I don't understand
Sonic is honestly crushing it in the Tokyo Olympics so that’s a major plus
What's funny is that the main sonic event was on the hive(a minecraft server). The marketplace one was side content. Also the server one was free to play and so much fun. The sonic event that happened after the timer went down eggman/robotnik takeover.
Also this wasnt made for sonic fans who want to play sonic. This was made for sonic fans who want to play minecraft.
I genuinely think this could’ve been saved by including a level editor, or at least an easy way to use the assets in your own world. Alas, that’s sadly not the case, soooo yeah we’re still stuck with just a few levels and that’s it.
I don’t think thats possible in minecraft
its possible to edit, but its kinda hard to activate and use
Yea you have to turn on creative mode
@Casswury ok I’ve never bought a mash up pack before
True
Minecraft is square with some rectangles scattered around
Sonic has round slopes and sometimes with some geometric objects
This is a brilliant idea that can't go wrong in any way.
So in reality, it's trying to put a circle peg in a square hole
@@maxedoutsociety bro copied that from a UA-cam title 💀💀💀💀🤡🤡🤡😫🤡
17:46 I can see why they chose that as the special stage, it's something Minecraft and Sonic has in common, there's a few well known maps that implement a very similar design to those special stages, jump down a hole and don't splatter into the floor, except the goal is surviving, not collecting 7 magic gems.
I like droppers, and I see few videos about them these days.
WHERE DID THEY GO?! THEY WERE THE ABSOLUTE BEST!!!
@@GMaster4308 They've all been out swept by update videos mods skywars and click bait videos.
@@Solesteam NOOOOOO
@@Solesteam I HAVE A UA-cam CHANNEL I WILL BRING DROPPERS BACK FROM THE DEAD IF I MUST
The zones look nice but the gameplay looks like running through oatmeal.
youd be suprised how actually fun running through oatmeal is
@@AviatorBean
Lol care to elaborate?
Sonic: A platformer with several branching paths and interesting level gimmicks
Minecraft: A game where you can do literally anything you want, with an infinite world
Sonic Minecraft DLC: Incredibly linear levels that are just the same handful of copy-pasted setpieces
You have to start somewhere, right?
Seems like an unfair complaint.
@@strikersquirrel7365 counterpoint: It's been paid for with money so any complaint is fair if it's done legitimately
I bought it played 5 minutes after,, yea I'm out
I watched that first stream. That was painful. I wasn't sure how you could find any good in the bad aside from the fanservice.
You managed to find plenty to talk about. You are truly a master of your craft.
@Paul Bell No, I was talking about Nick's Twitch stream.
I'm not an english native speaker so when I saw the title I though about the most used online form of peg, good thing that you put an image when you mentioned it on the video
As an English speaker, just a quick correction, its "PUT" not "PUTTED" even in the tense ur using it, "putted" is not a word. All respect given tho, just a correction of ur grammar
@@mugi-wharingan8150 many thanks
@@ColdnFox No problem my friend
also as a native english speaker, it's "title", not "tittle". tittle is the name for the dots on top of letters like i and j. but that's just nitpicking
@@Oreli oooh, my English teachers never corrected me on that, I appreciate the help
You know what this perfectly describes sonic Minecraft
New Sega Saturn game looks great.
@@aortaplatinum Yeah, on the hands of skilled enough developers the Saturn was capable of better 3D than even the PS1.
*32X
@@georckbread3403 *Mega 32X + Mega CD
@@inendlesspain4724 PS2 Vs. Dreamcast
oh no
Honestly, although the quality of the DLC was pretty inconsistent at times, I can certainly say with confidence (as both a Sonic and Minecraft player) that seeing Sky Sanctuary with such a _beautiful_ blockset makes me salty that those cream-coloured bricks aren't in the main game.
"why can't I enjoy these things without the creators being absolute garbage" 11:06 - 11:10
this is something a lot of people seem to misunderstand these days.
you are allowed to enjoy/play/consume a product even if you don't like the artist/creator. enjoying that work does not validate their views, and neither does it invalidate yours.
I think he was joking
I can't tell you how much I agree with this statement. Without HP Lovecraft generations of my favorite artists and in turn art wouldn't exist. My life would genuinely worse without his work. He also would've had me killed if he'd had the chance with how insanely racist he was. But without his work, some of my favorite stories wouldn't have been told. His hate died with him but his work and legacy lives on. Now people are finding ways to grapple with how his hate influenced art and how to address that in modern interpretations.
Long story short. Notch is an ignorant chud, but that has next to nothing to do with minecraft. Like not at all.
He was making a joke
9:48
This genuinely looks creepy, like tails put them into stasis to be tested on later.
Knuckles can mine, and Tails can craft. Lost potential there.
A treasure hunt stage where you can mine as Knuckles and crafting unlockables at Tails would be so cool
I went into this video knowing Nick's reactions from Twitter and expected to watch a very biased video of this DLC in a negative light. So I'm pleased to see that wasn't the case and Nick gave the PC version a shot as well. Great video man! Thanks for sticking with it to the end! Nice highlight of all 'The Hive' limited time content too!
Me: A video on Sonic in Minecraft DLC can't be that long
Nick: BOOOOSHHH!
Me: Consider me impressed
Heh reminds me of charriii5 saying Boosh
@@Dan-do2pl lmfao
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@@GodittoC I WISH THAT ALL THE PEDO'S ON PLANET EARTH WOULD CEASE TO EXIST!
@@Vegitodraws your wish was granted!
8:13 Man, that sounds terrible. I'd hate to play with control like that. I really uh........really hope that sort of thing never makes its way into the actual Sonic games. Wouldn't THAT be SUCH A PAIN? YUP. S-SURE WOULD.... *Stares judgmentally at Sonic Forces*
This was such a great Video! What I love about this channel is how your opinons on games aren't black and white, good or bad, and this highlights that.
I’m sad.
I would have loved the hive.
I was on vacation so I could not play Minecraft online.
I straight up got the pack for the skins. The rest is just a bonus.
As I was watching you play through the Minecraft Chemical Plant Zone, I really started comparing this space with that of 'Sonic Robo Blast 2'. Nice to see you bring that fangame up.
They definitely nailed that "Temporary event DLC" feel, just looking at it.
I think the reason the Super Mario DLC was just a reskin was because it was included on the Wii U physical copy. The Wii U version is considered the Legacy Console Edition. I'm pretty sure they aren't the same version of Minecraft, so when Minecraft came to switch they simply ported the map and textures.
As a wise man once said...
"Two gear Diahoreha"
wild avgn reference
7:27 That's just another one of _Eggman's diabolical traps_ :P
Knuckles' glide still doesn't make sense then though. Minecraft has elytra, now I'm not sure if they were using any actual items to help with the physics but it wouldn't be too farfetched to just automatically equip invisible elytra wings to work as Knuckles' glide, right? This isn't even a game-mechanic problem, it's pure stupidity on their end
that wouldn't make sense since then you could glide up.
@@saiqa7130 true, but if they're changing the ingame physics i'm sure they could just take the base concept of "jump button mid-air to glide" and remove the other physics to them
you know what wouldve been even better? if they stopped trying to make minecraft something that its not and just made a texture pack, map, and skin pack bundle.
Like the Mario bundle?
We've got plenty of those... Nothing wrong with something new every now and then
@@drcheesenut896 not when it’s way worse than just doing the easier thing.
@@drcheesenut896 you dont get it bro. cool things can be done with custom models, comand blocks, and behavior packs. but at what point is it just not minecraft anymore? If you have a skin pack and texture pack you can use that for anything, its creative. Ignoring minecraft's limitations and adding in whatever models in that you please, rather than building these things with the blocks given to you, is not creative.
@@chrishiest ..."bro?"
My love of Sonic and my love of Minecraft have finally collided, and the explosion was glorious.
Glad you got a chance to walk around the Hive's Silent Hill themed lobby. Quite an odd choice for a collab I must say but wacky crossovers are always welcome!
22:38 well your first mistake was doing an obstacle course in THIRD PERSON, like a pleb
The way I can describe this is ambitious going beyond what to be expected so like sonic
9:23 knuckles is actually the best character of the bunch, his glide is actually a reused elytra. If you get to a high point, you can just fly over the stage! Pretty neat huh?
could've covered sonic smackdown and saved this for when you REALLY Needed content. but hindsight is 2020
But 2020 was ba- ohhhh
2020 is definetly hind
Freaking fantastic video as always bro! It actually makes me wanna pick up Sonic Minecraft again despite me not enjoying it loll.
Also The Trey Nobles Cameo at 10:33
I’m so sad that you can’t do anything with the choa garden! I feel like something like that would really fit well with Minecraft, and like you said, the styles are aesthetics are *super* different
I wouldn't be so cynical, everything Apologist complained about seems easily patchable. I'm sure this DLC will recieve updates and more content.
This is Mario’s revenge for Sonic punching him into Minecraft.
Game Apologist: A great channel among many 🖤
Notch actually made tweets against some of the more negative things he's said in the past, it's just that twitter doesn't show them to people because of the fact that those tweets don't get interacted with.
Everything besides the gameplay and level design was perfect. So basically just the fan service was great that's it 😂
It's always nice to know a content creator you like is not a transphobe.
Not that I assumed you were, but it's nice just knowing you're not, I've been surprised before.
The segment where you talked about notch being horrible made me really happy. Thanks for being a great person Mr Game Apologist :D
Ah trust me I’m not great, but always trying to be better! Thank you!
I can't help but wonder if you would have had a much better time with this if you had played some vanilla Minecraft beforehand. Things like Knuckles' glide were so easy for me to become accustomed to because, well, it's built on Minecraft gameplay. I saw it and was like "ah, its like Riptide combined with the Elytra, cool" and never worried about it again. Things like the sprint button I expected to be there because I've been playing Minecraft and doing high speed parkour maps since I was 11.
Not disparaging your critique and I definitely agree with you in a lot of places, but some things seem like somebody who's never played Minecraft before coming in to play a Sonic game instead of a hybrid
"Its once again strange to celebrate an anniversary with no gaming content."
Megaman Fans(already at 34 years this year):You get used to it.
People always say they like Sonic just for speed, this is what they get
Sonic is a platformer I don’t want him to just run without platforming or having fun
People who say Sonic has to be all about speed don't really get Sonic games.
@@inendlesspain4724 If that's the case, what sets Sonic apart from other platformers?
@@johnathonturner2279 It's mechanics are optimized for fast movement, but some people think you are supposed to constantly run forward and little else, which is why they get frustrated when that doesn't work and then claim Sonic games are "fundamentally flawed". You are actually supposed to not only be good at platforming, but exploit the momentum-based mechanics to gain as much speed as possible _while_ doing good platforming. Basically, speed is a reward you get for being good at the game, not something the game is supposed to hand over to you without putting any effort into it, which is how some people want to approach the games. That's what I mean when I say Sonic isn't all about speed.
@@inendlesspain4724 However, the main draw is still that Sonic is able to move a break neck speed. If the platforming cannot be overcome quickly, then the pace is dragged down and you are better off playing Mario or Crash. And before you bring up this whole "earning speed" shtick, bear in mind that most people aren't going to want to learn the mechanics to go fast if a first playthrough isn't satisfying. If people don't get that satisfaction of speed that was promised the first time, what would lead them to trying a second time? Frankly, since you're clearly shitting on the Boost games, I'd say it (specifically Generations) does a good job of conveying speed on the first playthrough that it does a good job of encouraging playing through the stages again and learning to use Sonic's moveset and learn the levels to get even better times.
@@johnathonturner2279 When I wrote that comment I was mostly thinking about the Genesis games since those are the games that layed the foundations for the rest of the series. Those games were supposed to be replayed multiple times to master the mechanics, that was something common with most games at the time and people understood that, and since it's been a thing with Sonic games since the beginning I consider it a fundamental trait of the series, and if other people have difficulty getting into the games because of that, sucks for them, but that doesn't make the games bad or flawed. If I was shitting on something, it was game critics and journos, who seem to want to just press right constantly and somehow expect the games to win themselves or something. And on that note, I know Doom fans were really angry at them when they were criticizing Eternal for being "unbalanced" when in reality the game was forcing the player to properly learn its mechanics to progress, but they refused to and then blamed the game for it. Just saying, if other communities don't accept people criticizing their favorite games for sucking at them because they don't want to properly learn their mechanics, why should we with Sonic games?
I know some of the boost games have good level design that aren't based solely on boosting through everything, like Generations as you said and, even though I haven't played it myself yet, I've heard Unleashed also does that, I've even heard that it does it even better than Generations'. A good example of a game that exercises that "Sonic is supposed to be all about speed" philosophy I was talking about is, of course, Forces, which I think learnt the worst lessons from past boost games. For 2D Sonic there's Advance 2, which is often considered a sort of prototype of the boost formula. The boost games have their highs and lows, but I don't know why you just assumed I was shitting on the formula as a whole, even though I have to admit it's not my favorite type of Sonic game.
I'm not even surprised notch got called a transphobe for saying Minecraft is dead
He didn't get called a transphobe for saying Minecraft is dead, he gets called a transphobe because he says transphobic shit.
24:19 I think EVERYBODY would of been upset about a Lost Hex map. Gross. :P
No
The best part were the Metal Knuckles and Mecha Sonic skins.
Best sanic channel.
Let's keep in mind that someone pulled sonic in Minecraft off something like 10 years ago with a texture pack and commands.
7:27 This is probably what Eggman would actually do to deal with sonic.
Considering how easy it is to be labeled a "transphobe", I don't think it's right to freak out at that accusation. I don't know what Notch specifically said, but Rowling said something that was eminently reasonable (that you should respect trans people's genders but that sex still exists) and she still got dogpiled for it. The fact of the matter is that if you have even the slightest disagreement with the trans activist lobby, you become a persona non grata. It seems like there are a lot of people out there convinced this is their modern day civil rights movement and are desperate to be on the right side of history, while ignoring that sometimes other people have valid points. Unless you're actively saying that trans people should be killed or have rights stripped away from them, you're not a transphobe. Saying that biological women need spaces away from biological men is not hateful. Hell, even saying that trans women are still biologically men is not transphobic, since it's actually true and has certain implications regarding things like deciding where criminals go to prison. And even if you disagree with all those positions, it's wrong to label someone as hateful and contribute to their unpersoning by perpetuating that lie.
It is pretty dishonest to claim that the only thing that all that JK Rowling said is "sex is real". Just recently she made a tweet which implied that trans women were rapists, or at least that men were claiming to be trans women to rape them, which there is no evidence to support is actually happening. She has also defended a person who compared being transgender to blackface, and used a rejected study that used dubious data collection methods to claim that there is an epidemic of girls transition who aren't really transgender, which isn't actually happening.
When saying that cis women need spaces away from "biological men", you are basically saying that you don't care about the safety of trans women, who are at a greater safety risk when they aren't allowed in women's spaces. There is, again, no evidence to suggest that letting trans women in women's spaces puts cis women at a greater risk.
What Notch said was also worse than what JK Rowling said. He called being transgender a "delusion" and a "mental illness". I don't know how calling transgender people delusional could be defended as not transphobic.
@@quagstar They both are right tho
First off, Game Apologist videos are back.
Second, The Harry Potter video is finally coming. (I'm so excited about that one)
Third, SAGE 2021 trailer will launch shortly.
This is truly a good day.
Sorry but what is SAGE?
@@Hajilex Sonic Amateur Games Expo; basically a fan game competition. Worth checking out IMO
This is a wonderful game when your console is XBox or PlayStation and not switch
Here's a bit of a tip for playing minecraft, don't try to play the whole game in 3rd person, it's best in 1st person so you can see right in front of you
5:45
“My initial playthrough of Sonic Minecraft felt like…”
Video cuts to vaping ad about inhaling toxic metals into your lungs.
I would just prefer building and crafting as sonic and his friends while having all the abilities they have in this dlc. That would be pretty fun
the virgin Sonic minecraft VS the chad Sonicraft
Here's my prediction for the new sonic game:
Either its an amazing game that does everything right and is exactly what the series needed
Or
It's a 3 hour boost to win
I played Sonic Minecraft on Xbox because, it worked much better. I would also recommend not using 3rd person pov, Minecraft isn't meant to really be played like that.
so you were mentioning combining minecraft mechanics in a bit more and my mind instantly yelled SONIC ADVENTURES: KNUCKLES LEVELS!
2:57 when i found out he was on switch and it froze, i instantly fell into another loop of the youtuber that always said that one phrase when the game froze or if they died...
"tHE reAs0n i'M hErE-"
The minecraft thing is pretty cool but man it hurts my eyes when sonic runs. Great video Nick!
thinking about it, y'know who crafts? eggman probably make a minecraft robotnik simulator
heh, game apologizing before we got to adventure after all. i'm glad you found some stuff to love, man.
Gotta be honest, the minecraft mario world is cool as hell to just explore
Those loop physics remind me of when SRB2 was just beginning to implement slopes. To be clear, Sonic Team Jr. made slopes work in a modified DOOM engine.
Edit: I just got to the end of the video.
Just one sonic speed reading & we might get a sonic adventure review we've been waiting for
The hive event was probably the best bit of the sonic event
finally, someone that actually explains what sonic in Minecraft is like. instead of just saying "sOnIc dLc Is eXpEnSiVe"
I hate how we can’t use Sonic’s control outside the game, Like I want to build my own stages with the control
Sonic is the ultimate Minecraft speedrunner
This was a weird DLC pack for Bedrock edition, but its impressive how good they made it look as it does
real excited for that sonic jam vid
Just from watching other people playing this on the switch, I can say, that EVEN AN IPHONE 7 RUNS THIS DLC BETTER
Edit: Plus I think, that it would be way better, if the levels were 2d (one line and camera from side).
MY BOYS BACKKKKK
At least you got to play it. I bought this on switch using saved up gold points, took 5 minutes to figure out how to make a damn world for it, and took 15 minutes to load up. Then I entered green hill zone, game literally CRASHED the moment i hit the first ring box. Then when I reopened minecraft and loaded up the world, and no matter what i did, I could not play a single level. I even deleted it and made an entirely new world, and no luck.
Wonder what you’d think of the various Sonic mods people made for Java edition back in the day.
You could glide with knuckles if you just aim your punch upwards.
Did I just see classic Death Egg Robot merch?
I NEED IT!
Don't let this distract you from the fact bedrock edition worlds used to always get corrupted after like 3 weeks of play.
It's been a 100% chance for years so it could probably still be around.
3:00
"I'd speed through the level b4 it even rendered"
Aka how his levels would actually go😂
0:31 YEAAAAHHHHHH BABYYYYYYY WE PLAYING THE CLASSIC MASTAPIECE ALL NIGHT
there was a update to this dlc
Sir this is a Minecraft minigame, what where you expecting.
they fixed the lag problem
This is what they mean when they say sonic had a rough transition into 3D
The Fact that i had fun with this when i was playing on Switch though.
Fun fact minecraft has a dedicated glider in the elytra, that would work great
Sonic Minecraft is charming, but very janky. Tedious too. The Switch port is very unreliable, i was gifted it and it was a very poor job. Sold it a week or two after. Takes forever to load and the settings with internet etc, is very poorly done. I have been ranting on about a port that has nothing to do with Sonic and Nick can clearly review it better than a guy in the comments, but it is a DLC to a janky port after all. Overall I think the DLC was a huge cash grab.
12:08 THANK YOU, I always told people that bedrock switch is literal crap, but no one gets me 😭
Not that bad y'know
Why? I don’t know about you, but whenever I load up Java edition compared to bedrock, Java is so laggy compared to bedrock
@@7liner That is literally the only negative of Java, and mods fix that so it basically runs just as well. Not to mention about 90% of computers run it just fine, it's older hardware that has the issues.
@@nyahnyahson523 I don’t know, I have windows 10
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the thing about minecraft maps is that you'll always expect them to be kinda broken
What amazes most people is how visually pleasing they look and the level os detail people put into these.
some years ago, I'd never expect to see something like this
This map is not really for hardcore sonic fans who want a fully polished game
But for minecraft players who just happen to like sonic and wanna have fun
Also yeah, your momentum stops if you stop pressing w while running
that's just minecraft
it's pretty much built around first person
so uhhh how about you just move your mouse? or maybe not let go of W
The chao garden music is one of the greatest ways to hit me with nostalgia
The Hive event was probably the most fun I’ve had in a long time
Bro I heard my boi flame grilling minecraft at the start and I was bouta flame grill him, but honestly I think he got it exactly right. I mean I didn't buy the sonic dlc but I played the Hive event on my xbox (with no harddrive breaking issues) and while yes it was frustrating at times. I genuinely had a lot of fun clearing out that ring shop and don't even get me started on that live event! It was so good I loved it! So yes Sonic and Minecraft were two games never meant to mix, but the people at Mojang and Hive went above and beyond to give us maybe not something good but probably the best we were going to get from something like this, and I can appreciate that. I mean I had an awesome time pointing out all of the references to my friends who have never even touched a Sonic game
One of your trans fans here. I always hold my breath when a youtuber I like approaches the topic of transphobia, so I appreciate you being funny about it and making it seem like being an ally isn't even a big deal 💛 toot toot sonic warrior!
23:08 I'm going to to be picky. That's seaside hill.