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WTF!! Boeing 757 using the REVERSE GEAR - Skiathos Airport
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- Опубліковано 24 чер 2017
- I have never seen a Boeing 757 using the "reverse gear" before. The 757 was still too fast and tried to vacate the runway via the nearest taxiway but the pilots didn` t manage to turn around in time and as a result they were standing in front of the grass next to the taxiway. They decided to use the reversers to taxi backwards. These "powerbacks" are extremly rare and civil aircrafts usualy don` t do it. Within the past twenty years I only saw two "powerbacks", performed by military aircrafts, a Casa 295 and a C-130 Hercules. I know that Northwest was well known for powerbacks when they still used the Dc-9 but I have never seen a Boeing 757 going backwards without the assistance of a pushback truck.
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Just to resolve this: I did not use a drone :D. I used a selfie stick with a go pro and it` s just an optical illusion which is caused by the Go Pro.
Cargospotter
Where's that....St. Marteen?
Cargospotter
Ok. Never mind. Just checked and found out it is in Greece. Great vid!
tmat04 no it's Greece
bobby hug
Yes. I sent you a 2nd reply after I found out it was Greece. But thanks for your reply, anyways. And Gr8 vid!
It isn't St Maarten, it's in Greece
The other plane at 1:15 is like "nothing to see here folks"
737s have a habit of stealing limelight from 757s any opportunity they get... I did find it mildly amusing as it crept on screen
Kim Jonny ikr
"That has been out of protocol since the 1980s,"
AirForceProud95...
You can alt f4.
Father teaching his teenage son how to drive a 757: "okay, the landing was satisfactory. Now vacate the runway properly, and don't forget your turn signals. Well you didn't turn sharply enough boy...put 'er in reverse and line yourself up with the taxiway. Nicely done". :)
Canadian Plane Spotter mom comes in at 1:15
@@shrinivasaprabhu8931 you killed me 😂 😂 😂 😂
Grass is lava
Especially with the hot summer in Greece
College and University by Bermuda425 what is the average temperature at summers in greece? Just give me like an estimation
Depends on the place. Midland in the cities when we got heat wave it can reach 38-40 celcius, but at the islands the sea breeze drops it by 3-4 degrees. Normally it'll be around 32-35 degrees celcius for late june, july and august.
There you go ;)
Twenty Five Hundred 5..4..3..2..1..
Powerbacks were common with the DC9 & MD80 series at certain airports with a few different airlines, along with the occasional 727. I did one with a TWA DC9 a while ago. Technically it can be done with anything that has thrust reverse.. but it's highly discouraged on jets with the low-mounted engines, due to a much higher risk of FOD & compressor stalls.
Tail mounted engines react with the flight characteristics differently and that includes reverse thrust. In the DC-9 era pilots were much more active in flying the plane vs electronics. They had autopilot of course, but flying was much more haves on which led to different experiences flying with different captains.
Cheers
5:09 *_Pew-Pew!! Pew-Pew-Pew!!!_* XD
what in the living hell is that lol
@@mattkroening7964 to scare away birds i guess
The 737 comes out like "I got you, big brother. Hey, everyone!! Look at me!!"
WOW. I have, seriously, 2,800 as pilot in a B757 and have never seen OR even thought of using the 'Thrust Reverers' like that. All that exhaust air blowing forward would create a LOT of possible 'FOD' Foreign Object Damage, to the engines. OUCH.
We NORMALLY 'stow' the reversers slowing to 80knots (93mph,150km) to prevent such damage.
757s are allowed to use powerback at certain airports...it's the largest civil plane that is allowed to use powerbacks afaik
Gordon Cochrane NWA was the last US carrier to allow powerback ops discontinuing it in 2005. While possible to have never seen it done, if you have 2,800 hours in the 75 you have presumably been at a legacy or cargo operator for quite some time. But having never thought of using the reversers like that when it's generally a limitation regarding thrust reverser use that you must have memorized, your claims of being a pilot are in question.
Was 60kts to stow the reverse at the UK airline I operated B757's.
One of the best plane spotting channels on UA-cam. keep up!
check out mines...am from the Caribbean :) !!!!!
The power is just something else. Makes you feel excited that two of those engines are punching you up into the sky when you fly. The footage is some of the best I've seen here. Thanks.
5:11 sounds like starwars :)))))
powerback was cool....never saw it on civil jets :)
1000 thumbs up :D
Pew pew pew pew
haha wtf
Jaguar79gt hahahaha 😂
i think its call reverse thrust!!!
@jojobens
You don't say Sherlock
MD-80's did it all the time at RDU backing away from the jet bridge.
steven pappas the man is correct, in a way. I was flying 737-300 from ALB to PHX when the ALB airport was torn up and the gates were non existent. We pulled into a space on the tarmac and unloaded but it didn't seem as if there was enough room for a TUG pushback between the chainlink boarding "gate" and the aircraft. Boarding for the return we were all seated and waiting when the engines came to life and the cabin reeked of dust and stale air. A TWA pilot dashed to the cockpit, the door was open then until you were ready to take off. The pilot came over the intercom to say that nothing was smoking or burning, they were using stored air under pressure to start and reverse the engines. Properly reversed we went backwards until the pilot could swing the nose around and we could roll onto a taxiway. The TWA dude thought that the stink and dust meant smoke and possible fire. I have been on a flight when the #2 on a 777 was engulfed in flames when started which went away quickly. I've flown a million miles as a passenger and 3,000 hours in a 1 or 2 engine spinner but I have no clue as to how the self start/reverse ability comes into play nor how the air is stored and where.
Bobby Paluga I'm not an expert, but I'm pretty sure that the APU (auxiliary power unit, the small engine in the tail) is used to provide power and compressed air to start the engine when ground power isn't available. As for moving under reverse thrust, I think it's avoided as much as possible because of fuel consumption and possible foreign object ingestion.
+jojobens You mean reverse "thrust". "Trust" means something completely different.
Apart from possible ingestion of any runway debris, the only danger here is applying wheel brakes while taxiing backwards, which could raise the nose and lower the tail on to the surface. Provided the reverse movement is stopped by forward thrust there is no harm done. He must have braked pretty hard to even slow for the apron turn off as the touchdown was not exactly short.
I had a scary landing here on a Small Planet A320 a while back when the pilot touchdown beyond the terminal turn off and needed to brake extremely heavily to avoid going over the cliff at the end! Should maybe have gone around.
Yes sounds like a Go-Around would have been good....
That's cool! This is the first time I have seen a plane go back on its own. It's impressive! Excellent video!
The 757 has one of the best noises of any jet! Those RB211's are a beast!
lol I usually do this in FSX. Didn't expect to ever see it in real life
Spiker , But that’s been out of protocol since the 1980s
Anybody else notice the smoke coming from the left wheel around 0:39-0:46 ? Looks like he was climbing on the brake HARD to get it to stop in time! :O
mictho100 yeah maybe
Yeah I agree!
@@mrsmchistory Yes they were hard on the brakes there with the antiskid system working well...
@@captainjamesmcbride2344 thank you sir! Are you still working for EasyJet? My 11 year old daughter is aspiring to become a commercial airline pilot. Hope you're keeping well!
I've never seen a 757 with Powerback this video is absolutely awesome.
Thanks a lot for these shots !!!!!!
Very nice!!! You've got all angles covered. Great job. That must be a lot of work but SO MUCH FUN!!! Thank you!!
Three point turn by reverse thrust. Niiiice!
wow.. first time seeing an airplane backing up itself.. cool
Love your very sharp, multicam 4K video. Great quality!
Fantastic shots! Great resolution and choice of locations too!
Tnx for posting!
That was an absolutely insane catch
It's exceptionally rare and was indeed a great catch. It must be against the SOP's, surely
they used to do that with the md82 if i remember right. they were good enough to do pushbacks even
I've always loved this video! Never tire of watching it!!
Lovely. Thank you for uploading😘
you see this everyday on gta5 xD
I thought you were a pro..Its called Reverse THRUST!
That's why it was in quotes. Watch the video and read the text before commenting.
This is about a powerback manoeuvre using the technical facility of reverse thrust to push oneself back without a tug. It's quite adequate to term this highly unusual action "reverse gear" with tongue-in-cheek.
@Christopher Coke Robinson
You don't say Sherlock
pinkdispatcher You should see a turboprop do this in heavy rain...I guarantee you'll never forget it!
That would be kind of cool to see.
As a rampserviceman I powerbacked 757s, DC-9s and 727s in the rain....It was EPIC!!!!
THIS IS THE BEST CH ON UA-cam HANDS DOWN ☺👍👏
I've heard of this, but I've never seen it. Thanks for posting the video.
"Use all the runway available" applies horizontally as well as lengthways!
Nice catch, but I think the better option was just to rollout and turn using the whole width of the runway. This just looked like the crew misjudged the turn.. quick fix tho..
Excellent video , loved the take off shots, Thank you
Beautiful cloudless, blue sky! And what a light, happy mooded place!
When i flew from skiathos they forgot to shut the fuel hatch.. we got to the end of the runway ready to go and a cabin crew noticed it and we had to go back to the airport
'Arh dang it... I'll have to buy the rounds this time...'
I thought that this would be clickbait but I'm honestly impressed
Never seen this before either! Great Video.
If I was the pilot I'd say :
Whoops, a bit too far
*(opening window)*
Watch out air traffic I'm backin' up !!😂
very nice vid i enjoyed
Wow, that's rare. Worked a an airport for 5 years and only saw a q300 do this once at the gate....spectacular catch!
Fantastic footage! Your GoPro is working hard. Can't wait to try ours out at this awesome location.
3-point turn in a 757 - I've seen it all. And by the way, what did you film the footage from 2:00 on with? A drone? If yes - a big NO NO!
Bogdan Misko Looks more like a selfie stick pole.
ever heard of a gopro?
Its not a drone, a drone would be blown away, looks more like a big selfie stick
Exactly. I used a selfie stick.
Fair enough, Drones can hold a GPS position so that's why I asked. Sort of looked like it. Great footage nevertheless!
Wonder if they teach you how to do three point turns in flight school..
Serious problem solving there! Excellent, haha. Liked, awesome catch! :)
At Atlanta Hartsfield airport, there is enough distance between some terminals where the pilot can use thrust reversers to back out instead of being pushed out by a tug. I was on a flight departing there in the 1990's, when the pilot announced that we would be doing this, and it was a weird sensation going backwards like that.
Awesome video....i expect nothing less fro ma spotting legend on UA-cam :) !!!!
the plane was trying to show off at 0:58 the the 737 got jelous at 1:15 and starts to cover it
Lmao 😂
Great post. Spent many a happy moment standing at the sea end of the runway. Also get a good view of take off up in the hills.
Brilliant! Not seen that before!
Airplane nerds giving negative feedback because of the use of wrong words. Cmon guys... Wake up!
Should of mentioned the maneuver of the Nissan Qashqai at the end.
Nissans for the win :)
Interesting siren on the Nissan. Scares the birds away? Looks like 2 birds fly directly in front of the jet taking off at 4:00 .
should have*
It's just that I've noticed in Ottawa, Canada that a person still drives around in a truck that says, "BIRDMAN" on the side and fires fireworks and stuff out the window at birds. Some of the things the birdman fires make a whistling sound and some go BOOM and birds will flock off immediately lol. And I've also noticed that the birdman in Ottawa is sometimes a birdwoman :)
You're right. I see the BIRDPERSON every time I plane spot in Ottawa. Yet we still get hundreds of bird strikes every year!
NOW THIS WILL DEFINITLY RAISE YOUR "PUCKER FACTOR". GREAT VIDEO. THANKS!
Top video mate, can't wait to get back there. Still my favorite holiday destination! I took my main account picture there! I'd have loved to feel how hard that braking was onboard, the left main gear locked up a couple of times!
I feel wierd because I’m watching this in skiathos and I came in a TUI plane
Coincidence?
"Reverse GEAR" what?
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Um, that's why he used quotation marks around it in the description, duh. Because "gear" is just used figuratively here. (I wish he had used it in the title too; maybe I can still get him to. Let's see....)
Foot on the clutch so the plane is in neutral. Take the gear knob and shift it straight into reverse.. now you’re in reverse gear so just fully smash the throttle 😉
X-Planer
Take a look on plane when it's landing. The tyres generate smoke because pilot shifted R gear.
Trucker No-Lifer xD I’m done
Thank you very much for this very hot footage I should say :)
Nice Video. Very nice from the Gopro!! I dont need to go St.Maarten. I am just heading for Skiathos. :-D
Powerback in jet plane??? OH HELL NO!
Powerback is common in turboprops like Dash 8 and it's fairly safe for most of turboprops, but it's very dangerous for the jet engines
It's possible to damage the engine by intaking very hot exhaust gases which can cause engine overheat and fail. Of course it can be used shortly but for longer use there's a risk of damaging engine. That's why reverse thrust is disabled at 60-70 knots on landing. *Also it's dangerous because of probability of intaking debris into engines which can also damage engine* (please refer to answers to this comment).
EDIT to not continue mislead by my and others small knowledge about thrust reverse.
I wrote it about reverses turn off at 60 knots. I can't write every exception from the rule. It's just impossible. I didn't even know that MD-80s and other planes used reverses for pushback in 80s. If it would be 100% safe and profitable the airlines would use powerback more common instead of pushback today. Other guys stated it in lower comments. Please refer to it.
Silenthunter199 also picking up FOD....Did that 737 have to back taxi because of that? Why did he turn in the middle of the runway..did he miss his exit?
Take look at that (page 3 is aerodrome chart) www.google.pl/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0ahUKEwis2rab0onVAhWqIJoKHcmFBiEQFggnMAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fmyweb.tiscali.co.uk%2Ffssim%2Fcharts%2FLGSK.pdf&usg=AFQjCNFrPGQ7KJolA_9VtUcVSEA_JLWSsg
As you can see there is no exit at both ends of runway. Planes have to turn back and make so-called backtrack on runway to vacate it.
Silenthunter199 thanks bro. I appreciate it. I fly private and didn't even think to find the chart. thanks.
Jet planes using reveses for breaking normaly.
Of course they are doing that. They don't do powerback. Mostly it's idle reverse thrust because of volume of reverses, but they can use that for safety purposes like Skiathos, where runway is short.
Is is dangerous to crawl backwards using thrust reversers or something? What's the big deal?
d4v3y01 while doing a powerback, the engines can kick up debris ahead of the intake, which then gets sucked back into the engine and can damage it
Doesn't that apply to using reverse thrust on touchdown during a normal landing? Why should this be different? Perhaps the safety issue is the fact that the pilot and co-pilot alone can't really see what they're reversing into?
d4v3y01 during a landing though the plane is still moving forward into clean air while reversers are being used
d4v3y01 Low speed reverse can cause the engines to stall
cant kick debris fast enough to go in front of the engine and be injested because plane is still moving forward fast at and just after tocuhdown
This! This looks like a great time for holiday.
Danke.
Whooohaaaaa.....I knew some of planes using "power back" includes DC9/80 etc but I never seen in a 757 before. It was so interesting. Thanks for your sharing.
hakan737 Apply parking brake and then use reverse thrust, it will start to crawl back
First! Wow that's incredible
You have a shitload of cameras.
Excellent video of the most beautiful airplane ever made! Thanks!
People go on vacation but end up watching planes at an airport.
Thats what reverse thrust is for. It happens all the time.
Obviously you don't get around too much. Anyway I fly a potato, online you can be whatever you want.
leokimvideo listen to King Flappi you jerk.....
Regards
Gulfstream pilot of 25 years experience
that's not what reverse thrust is for moron
Its to slow down the plane at landing... NOT TO REVERSE!
reverse trust is used to slow the aircraft down on landing AND to allow the plane to go backwards
i guess you are too young to know about the DC-9s and MD-80s doing power-backs from the terminals as standard procedure. look it up
then tell me part of it is "NOT TO REVERSE!"
also, same with military cargo aircraft...C-130, C-5Ms....allows them to operate with minimal ground support...otherwise you gotta ship over a tug to push them back....smh
We call it reverse THRUST. The use of reverse thrust is common at airports with limited space.
Another poorly titled video. -10
first read the description and second delete your stupid comment
Matthew Jericho Sy I think it's the other way around. 7,000+ hrs.
Joe Biden Never heard that term on the flight deck of any of the aircraft I've piloted, DC-8, B-737, B-707's. But even turboprops like the Twin Otter or Dash 8 that have reversing props.
If the syllabus has changed, please point me to a link that has a flight manual that states reverse gear...
Joe Biden You really do not understand what's you're talking about. You really don't.
Not once in the Wikipedia article about reverse thrust, is it ever used to describe a "reverse gear" situation when backing up an airplane or using it to slow down.
I've applied reverse thrust thousands of times. No pilot that I have flown with calls out, "reverse gear", when moving the thrust reversers into position.
What we will do when are going to back up a turboprop using reverse check to make sure we are clear, make a radio call if necessary on Ground frequency, and whomever is the pilot in Command is, will call out, reverse prop.
On float planes, we don't bother at the dock, the pilot, usually the Captain, because his side is usually tied to the dock, will check with his co-pilot, making sure portside is clear, then without any call-out, applying reverse prop on the starboard engine #2 and high idle power to the port #1 engine to rotate the aircraft in a tight docking space.
On land, Twin Otters often will use reverse thrust to back the airplane up. We do not call it reverse gear.
On B-737's and DC-8's, we always used ONE term, REVERSE THRUST and nothing else.
So please, stop taking about something you CLEARLY do not know about how to describe or how or when it is used.
Joe Biden how is it a gear? There is no gear involved?
Powerbacks were actually very common on AA MD-80's pushing from the gates at DFW, and NW frequently used powerbacks to push DC-9's from the gates at their hubs, too, back in the day.
Awesome video. Well done!
Low airspeed use of reversers is prohibited by all airlines, aircraft and engine manufactures as it makes expensive engine FOD (Foreign Object Damage) a real possibility. If this clown was 'found out', I'd bet at minimum he/she would be loudly screamed at, and/or terminated. If FOD resulted from such a maneuver, it wouldn't surprise me to hear of the PIC (Pilot In Command) being held financially responsible.
rwbishop and you would know exactly what the procedures are at every airline in the world..stop being a fucktard pretending to know about things you CLEARLY KNOW NOTHING ABOUT. Lots of airlines and air forces allow power backs...now go away and stop pretending to be a know it all. You are clearly not. Oh the 757 has a powerback aporoval so get your facts right before you post rubbish...
rwbishop PIC? you mean F/O? First Officer? or a Captain?
See Wikipedia's 'Pilot in Command' entry for a good rundown.
maybe that's what they're referred to where you may be from but from everything I've learned about which is a few courses, refer to the cockpit crew as Captain, Co-pilot, and First Officer
smol bean - Ever seen a cockpit video from Lufthansa when the Captain tells the F/O: "You have control". Now the F/O is the PIC. In this case the Captain would be the PIC after landing (if he didn't land) because he/she is responsible for taxiing from the runway.
that's something we don't expected to see a plane reversing right after it landed
I love how there's just no fences or anything at this airport. Obviously illegal, but someone could just jump right over the small barrier and go running down the runway hahaha.
Wonderful!!Thank you
The 757 can reverse by itself!?, that's awesome that modern planes are starting to have that :)
Cool! I didn't know Skiathos was such a good place for planespotting. I thought you had to go to St. Marten.
So I might consider a trip to Greece after all ...
Thrust reversers are used often on short runways...or even to back up. I've seen a C-17 go full reverse thrust, turn around on a runway, and take off.
Cool vid. Thanks for sharing!
The cowling around the back end of the turbine pulls backwards from its spot, blocking thrust from flowing backwards, and rerouting it to go forwards. It's a neat tool imo :D
Also I keep falling in love with planes, they're so graceful :P
It’s called a thrust reverser
737 pilot did a similar at Changi airport, it felt as though we were still slowing down as we turned onto the taxiway. There was actual G's pulled as we turned
I just love the politeness of that danger sign. "Please don't risk your life for a pointless stunt? Please, pretty please?"
Love the landing of it coming in !! ..feels like its coming at you or how it would look like to crash in front of you or into you..wow ..the speed/Rush !!
Nice video, I liked and subscribed🙂
yes,and I spent my holiday at the end of the runway watching planes,what fun !!!
i love 757 and the pew pew star wars car in the ending :P
Excellent shot of this rare action....
wow a 3 point turn. if you turn the sound up you could just about hear "beep, beep, warning this vehicle is reversing, warning. lol. well captured.
I worked for the airlines for 30 yrs. When I was in Orlando and eastern airlines was still around there 757 and 727 along with AA 727 and md80 would use thrust reverse during power backs every once in awhile. When working in SEA,DFW,DEN,IAD, and MCO We use thrust reverse during power backs most of the time. A lot of airlines use that because there where not a lot of push tugs around. Of course that was 20 yrs ago. Now everything is by push tug.
Oh, this is wild!!!! Perhaps, the pilot just forgot that there are lots of cameras, these days. ;) Nice catch!
amazing! Never seen that before either.....
I'd never thought about how weird it would be to see a plane rolling in reverse.
Wow..I've never seen this before!
I like that car in the end which sounds like it is in a massive Star Wars laser battle ^^
Thanks for the video.
Just about any aircraft with thrust reversers can back up. We used the manuver a lot in the military, especially in Vietnam. The C 130 was the best at it. Sometimes you would swear there was a guy in the back steering!
It's good to see an airliner doing it away from the terminal.
The C-130's do it with propellor pitch don't they? Thrust reversers are a whole different scenario, you can blow something off the ground, and then ingest the FOD because your a/c is too slow to outrun it (in this case, barley moving). That's why there's a speed restriction on deploying reversers on roll out.
jimbobeire Yes they do it with the props. The C 141's also used their thrust reversers to back up. Any way you do it it's impressive.
Thanks for the video, excellent. As to the pilot using reverse "gear", I believe it's named "reverse thrust".
wow i never ever saw someone useing reverse thrust to drive backwards haha amazing
I agree with you Cargospotter. Powerbacks are incredibly RARE these days. In my time flying the jet, I have only done 2 since 1989... Probably the vast majority of B757 pilots have not done one ever!
I never did. Wouldn't have like the idea of doing it at all. Must be hard to keep your feet away from the brakes so you don't instinctively press them by mistake and stick the nose up in the air.
I'm a 757 Captain. Our airline specifically states in our Flight Manual that,"powerback from the terminal are prohibited". It doesn't say that it is prohibited any place else, but I still would not do it. It looks to me that the Captain should have continued down to the next taxiway and exit the runway. It's like you missed your off ramp on a freeway, stop on the freeway and backup until you are able to make that off ramp. Even if the tower asked him to do it or approved the Captain's request to powerback on the active runway, I still think that it's not using "good headwork" (as we would say in Naval Aviation).