**Update** - So doing some research it seems like a bunch of others have had this happen, when the drone encounters a minor impact and the warning pops up on the screen, switching it into sport/normal or hitting the pause button causes the drone to freak out and hit the deck. Now granted, initially the fault was mine for bumping the ground but that seems like a pretty dangerous thing for the unit to do following a minor collision...I'll take this one on the chin and learn the lesson for next time!
Indeed, a lot of other FPV pilots have reported this behavior. Especially if you are flying in Manual mode and hit something and then, decided to use the pause button. This is a big blocking point for me to invest in Avata 2 for the moment. And I never have been flying any FPV drone so far. I hope care refresh will cover your losses and if this is a bug in software it will be fixed soon. Until then, I think in such cases if you still control the drone, it would be better to find a safety place for landing and restart the drone. Happy flying.
@@dronephotography3519 Can confirm mine did the same I hit the floor like in this Video and then went up and switched to Normal mode and the Drone lost signal ! after watching the Video back it drifted backwords and smashed in to ground and broke ! luckily have have cover and got new unit but I won't be using the M mode for a while ! Ill stick to just drifting in sport mode for the time being.
Flying risky gets you unwelcomed results. Everyone wants to fly in MANUAL mode, then blame DJI for their user error👎 And trust me I have crashed/lost my own drones in the beginning, but EVERY time it was USER ERROR.
@@TEKonTECH I think no one is blaming DJI for the HIT itself but the drone should be able to recover in such situation when you press pause button. This is so called safety feature. But instead drone start flying uncontrolled. I think if pilot is more skilled, he will never use the pause button and will be able to recover by itself. But for a noob like me I will do the same and will crash.
If it says sensor error don't switch to a mode that needs sensors. Land it asap and inspect it. Clean censors, and do a full calibration on everything. Any problems should show up during calibration.
It happened to me twice to make me understand. After IMU or sensor error detected, NEVER CHANGE MODE TO NORMAL or SPORT mode, fly home and stay in Manual mode until land and restarting the drone to continue flight.
After the first impact, the gyros needed time to reset. If you switch outta manual mode during this time, the avata will go outta control. After minor impacts, fly home shut down, start up and you good.
You think the broken propeller and frame wasn't indication that it may have broken more or perhaps was enough reason to struggle to maintain balance? The height in minus level also was giving it away besides sensor warning, probably good lesson learned after any bump to land and inspect or fly/hover low to the ground. Sorry to hear but glad care refresh is painless and saves the investment. 😅
In the USB C port, you need to activate the controller before the computer will pick it up as an input device. It will work with any mainstream simulator, I've personally used it with DRL Sim and TrypFPV. If you have the drone you activate the controller through the goggles. If you buy the controller before buying the drone you can activate it with DJI Assistant 2 For Consumer Series Drones Program.
Doubt you’ll see my comment considering this video is 4 months old but can you tell me what the sim is and if you need an actual pc set up or a laptop? I’m still saving to buy the avata 2 but I definitely would like to practice in the mean time I will buy the controller separately to practice before a full purchase of the drone etc.
shouldn't the switch from manual to sport mide put the drone in stabilized mode? Well, for manual mode real fpv, I will continue flying my 5" Tanq and geprc mk5. And use the Avata for cruising, DJI produckt are brittle thermoplastic things
Thanks for demoing this Craig - I have my manual controller arriving in the next couple of days. How many hours were you on the simulator before your first flight? Which simulator was it? Lift Off?
I have the Avata 1 and recently had my first crash, I hit a post flying through a picnic pavilion. After that, I tried flying again and got the “infra red sensor error”. It would land but bounce several times before motors would stop. I was able to fix it myself, I had to, I didn’t buy care refresh ! It turned out that a ribbon cable came loose from the sensor module. Lucky !
Same thing happened to me just a few days ago. I had a minor crash and then when switching the drone to normal mode the drone tipped forward all of a sudden and crashed into a tree. What I think happened was an "IMU Error" which meant the drone didn't know how to level itself and instead kept it tipped forward uncontrollably. From now on whenever I see an error like that pop up, I'll always fly back and land in manual mode.
If you get a *real* FPV drone with carbon frame then a crash like that would have been nothing, perhaps just the broken prop. The Avata is so fragile in comparison to regular FPV drones that once you're able to fly manually you'd be far better off buying a propper FPV drone than wasting your money on care refresh replacements for the Avata each time you have a decent crash.
Yes you can do this super easy on any real fpv drone using the betaflight software. Too bad dji doesn't care about what you want 😂 you're locked into how dji wants you to fly their garbage.
Pleased I didn't go the DJI route. I am flying analogue ELRS. If it makes you feel any better, I changed controllers and my muscle memory from the old controller to put into air mode was where the disarm button is on the new controller... Disarmed it a fair few meters up and crashed. Interestingly I have crashed my DarwinFPV Cine25 twice now fairly hard and only had to replace a rubbing motor. I think if you hadn't had DJI you wouldn't have crashed so bad, as the safety net made this crash happen. Weird it broke so badly just on grass!
@@Sk8WineMedia as it stands the new goggles and controller are not compatible with the O3 air unit, so I’m a bit stuck until they make them compatible or release the O4 air unit
How difficult was the care refresh process? I've heard stories of DJI Acting like an insurance agent, finding any reason they can not to honor their coverage. Of course I hear these things after paying for the service. But I've not yet needed to use it. Any pitfalls? Or ways you need to worry about getting screwed? What if I'm not recording video at the time of a crash?
Sensor error… you switched to using sensors…. Doh. Wish I hadn’t watched this. Haven’t flown FPV since around 2015, and don’t want to again, but it’s very tempting… Hope the care refresh is painless
Fair point but it seems rather crazy that the fail safes won’t work with the slightest of bumps, I’ve heard this happening even with the emergency stop button! Granted I shouldn’t have had a small bump but it’s meant to be designed to take them 🤷🏼 Haha it’s great fun, I really just got back into it for Iceland, I want to get some of that dive action. Cheers for the comment mate
@@CraigPitts I think you just got unlucky that the sensors malfunctioned after your minor crash. I've definitely had similar and harder crashes than yours and never got that error. The most I've had was an IMU error for a short period after a bump, but I just waited a bit in manual mode before switching back to normal and it was fine.
I felt every second of your flight and it made me stressed as much as you ! You did quite well for a 1st full manual flight in real life. After flying Mavic Air, M3P and M4P, I got the Avata 2 and started learning on uncrashed simulator.... I have not flown it yet in real world in accro mode.... That's why I was feel fully empathic with the way you did it. My learning curve is not that fast and I always feel astonished whenever I see freestylers or racers going at full speed with such an incredible virtuosity. Anyhow, care refresh is here to repair our noobs mistakes. I really found that you managed quite smoothly with nice turns and keeping steady low. After repair, you'll be good for many other go ! Happy flying and thumbs up to you !
It was a really good first flight in manual mode. If only you had landed after the first impact directly tho. Beside that you did a awesome job flying that avata 2 👍👍
Geez…I never noticed the gum. I have the original Avata and was wanting to get the new one but after seeing how fragile the new one is, I’m having second thoughts.
you fuk your drone up day one lol lol Well bro you said you want to know what it feels like to fly in real life This is it bro welcome to FPV you made it lol. soon you will go fly and have 6 drones and come home with 0 working lol thats true flying lol
😂😂 "my legs are shaking" couldn't stop laughing when you said that as I know the feel first time flying my avata 2. It got better after a pack or 2 lol.
This is pretty much how I crashed mine ! I was under the impression you could switch from M back to Normal and the drone will Stop ! This is obviously not the case because mine did what yours did and smashed in to ground and broke.
Lets not be discouraged. FPV = plenty of crashes. Care refresh is a MUST! And we need to keep in mind the emergency pause button, not the switch. After few hours in simulators, have some flights in real life without any stunts because we tend to become over confident. First flight in manual suppose to be a normal flight just to get the feel of how drone react. Then back to sim. So first few days with the Avata, no stunts! Build properly your muscle memory in simulator, you will know when you're ready. Its painful to see professionals in action and not being able to do the same but ask them how many times they crashed or how many times they tried to get the best shot. Its hard but its rewarding! I think patience and resilience is the key here.
It wasn't your fault honestly. You trained on Liftoff and got used to quads with high power to weight ratio! Then you attempted a split-S 20 meters above the ground with the Avata and it fell like a brick. I noticed the terrible prop wash due to small props and high weight. Also: that little impact broke the gyro & gps ? I crashed my 5" quad into a field many times and all I had to do is to blow the mud out of the frame & engines with an air compressor :-) To be fair I started flying before getting Liftoff and I didn't even knew you're supposed to throttle down while doing a Split-S ;-)
Okay, glad you got to narrate your flight, but when people crash, I never understand why with the struggles, and discomforts you mentioned, why didn’t you just slow down and be more precisely practiced with your moves?
My low buget drone from Aliexpress for 100€ (3inch Cinewhoop) has already seen several crashes that were much worse than yours, but my drone is still intact 🤔🤣
Nice video, it's fun to watch you slowly getting better!! I'm currently flying my Avata 2 and am also very unsure. However, I have something to criticise about your microphone. Unfortunately, it sounds very unpleasant to listen to you smacking your lips while chewing the gum.
It's too bad they produced such a fragile product. Lots of other options out there on the market. And with firmware like Betaflight or Inav you can start out using angle mode which is much easier than acro and progress over time.
Kind of hysterical and ironic that someone that looks like he could beat the fuk out of whoever he wants to is so worried about his fpv drone flying. Drones bring back the inner child for sure!
The googles that you have are fine but DJI drones are junk one little crash sets you back order a carbon fiber frame racing or freestyle drone that has a compatible DJI Air Unit an get back to flying! Save the Avata 2 for when you get good!!!
The avata 2 is a horrible horrible drone for learning acro for two reasons. 1) It's really fragile 2) It's underpowered. And so those beginners that wants to do rolls and loops withint 5 minutes they put themselves in a situation they can't get out. But if it would have had more power they would have been able to get out of it. That's why nobody should learn acro on an avata 2. Just fly in sport mode, that's fun as well. Get something light and repairable to learn manual with. Get really good first, then slowly explore the limits of the avata 2 in acro.
**Update** - So doing some research it seems like a bunch of others have had this happen, when the drone encounters a minor impact and the warning pops up on the screen, switching it into sport/normal or hitting the pause button causes the drone to freak out and hit the deck. Now granted, initially the fault was mine for bumping the ground but that seems like a pretty dangerous thing for the unit to do following a minor collision...I'll take this one on the chin and learn the lesson for next time!
Indeed, a lot of other FPV pilots have reported this behavior. Especially if you are flying in Manual mode and hit something and then, decided to use the pause button. This is a big blocking point for me to invest in Avata 2 for the moment. And I never have been flying any FPV drone so far. I hope care refresh will cover your losses and if this is a bug in software it will be fixed soon. Until then, I think in such cases if you still control the drone, it would be better to find a safety place for landing and restart the drone. Happy flying.
@@dronephotography3519 thanks for watching!
@@dronephotography3519 Can confirm mine did the same I hit the floor like in this Video and then went up and switched to Normal mode and the Drone lost signal ! after watching the Video back it drifted backwords and smashed in to ground and broke ! luckily have have cover and got new unit but I won't be using the M mode for a while ! Ill stick to just drifting in sport mode for the time being.
Flying risky gets you unwelcomed results. Everyone wants to fly in MANUAL mode, then blame DJI for their user error👎
And trust me I have crashed/lost my own drones in the beginning, but EVERY time it was USER ERROR.
@@TEKonTECH I think no one is blaming DJI for the HIT itself but the drone should be able to recover in such situation when you press pause button. This is so called safety feature. But instead drone start flying uncontrolled. I think if pilot is more skilled, he will never use the pause button and will be able to recover by itself. But for a noob like me I will do the same and will crash.
my left ear *LOVED* this video, i just wish my right one could've experienced it...
@@cashdoo 🤣 yeah I messed that up, fair comment
Wow ! I thought I was the only one not hearing the audio correctly.
@@djwak59i heard it correctly. I don’t use headphones
Good thing I only listen in my left ear lol
If it says sensor error don't switch to a mode that needs sensors. Land it asap and inspect it. Clean censors, and do a full calibration on everything. Any problems should show up during calibration.
It happened to me twice to make me understand. After IMU or sensor error detected, NEVER CHANGE MODE TO NORMAL or SPORT mode, fly home and stay in Manual mode until land and restarting the drone to continue flight.
What sim are u using to learn on?
After the first impact, the gyros needed time to reset. If you switch outta manual mode during this time, the avata will go outta control. After minor impacts, fly home shut down, start up and you good.
👍🏼
You think the broken propeller and frame wasn't indication that it may have broken more or perhaps was enough reason to struggle to maintain balance?
The height in minus level also was giving it away besides sensor warning, probably good lesson learned after any bump to land and inspect or fly/hover low to the ground.
Sorry to hear but glad care refresh is painless and saves the investment. 😅
Funny how when they overengineer their products, one little bump will cause the drone to freak out. Great product 💩
which simulator did you use? how did you connect the dji controller to the PC?
In the USB C port, you need to activate the controller before the computer will pick it up as an input device. It will work with any mainstream simulator, I've personally used it with DRL Sim and TrypFPV.
If you have the drone you activate the controller through the goggles. If you buy the controller before buying the drone you can activate it with DJI Assistant 2 For Consumer Series Drones Program.
It happen teh same thing to me, . A crashed, a continue, switch to normal mode, then the drone go away and crash badly. Now I undestand why.
Doubt you’ll see my comment considering this video is 4 months old but can you tell me what the sim is and if you need an actual pc set up or a laptop? I’m still saving to buy the avata 2 but I definitely would like to practice in the mean time I will buy the controller separately to practice before a full purchase of the drone etc.
@@VulcanRedux it’s called LiftOff you can get it on Steam on PC or Laptop 👍🏼
@@CraigPitts thank you sir.
Just wondering, is the crash caused by the "deathroll" issue the same in Avata 1 before?
hey mate were you in Cam / Dursley when you did this!?Yuor next to rednock? no? We should meet up!
Great video. Glad you have Care Refresh. Where did you get your sticks?
Cheers, they're some stick extenders from Amazon
@@CraigPitts Thanks! Ill check them out. stock ones are a little short.
shouldn't the switch from manual to sport mide put the drone in stabilized mode?
Well, for manual mode real fpv, I will continue flying my 5" Tanq and geprc mk5.
And use the Avata for cruising, DJI produckt are brittle thermoplastic things
Thanks for demoing this Craig - I have my manual controller arriving in the next couple of days. How many hours were you on the simulator before your first flight? Which simulator was it? Lift Off?
Cheers for the comment. I did 15hrs in Liftoff before that flight 👍🏼
@@CraigPitts crikey! Ok! Looking forward to your Iceland footage - good luck buddy! 🖖
@@amoktimeflies I just did like 30mins here and there after work and that time soon racked up, enjoy the process! 🤘🏼
Which sim did you use ?
Liftoff
@@CraigPitts cheers 🍻
@@NickHarbornePhotography tryp is alright too, bit more arcade like but good fun 👍🏼
@@CraigPitts So you only have experience lifting off, you should have also used the Touchdown simulator a bit.
I wish you show all the damages on the drone and was it happened from the first impact or second one?
One of the motor arms snapped and a prop broke, from the second impact
I have the Avata 1 and recently had my first crash, I hit a post flying through a picnic pavilion. After that, I tried flying again and got the “infra red sensor error”. It would land but bounce several times before motors would stop.
I was able to fix it myself, I had to, I didn’t buy care refresh ! It turned out that a ribbon cable came loose from the sensor module. Lucky !
Same thing happened to me just a few days ago. I had a minor crash and then when switching the drone to normal mode the drone tipped forward all of a sudden and crashed into a tree. What I think happened was an "IMU Error" which meant the drone didn't know how to level itself and instead kept it tipped forward uncontrollably. From now on whenever I see an error like that pop up, I'll always fly back and land in manual mode.
What simulator do you recommend? I never been flying any drone but i want to buy avata 2 this year and maybe mini 4.
Liftoff or Tryp are quite good 👍🏼
If you get a *real* FPV drone with carbon frame then a crash like that would have been nothing, perhaps just the broken prop. The Avata is so fragile in comparison to regular FPV drones that once you're able to fly manually you'd be far better off buying a propper FPV drone than wasting your money on care refresh replacements for the Avata each time you have a decent crash.
That's the plan!
What is an example of a real FPV drone with carbon frame ?
@@jurnet9 GepRC Mk 5 is one example.
@@xjetI agree the gep rc mark 5 is a excellent drone .
With the RC3 can you invert right stick in mode 3 does anyone know please? So pulling back ascends and pushing forwards descends.
Yes you can do this super easy on any real fpv drone using the betaflight software. Too bad dji doesn't care about what you want 😂 you're locked into how dji wants you to fly their garbage.
@@serenestateofbeing1062 oh come on now dji drones are a long way from garbage .
Thanks for the video. I appreciate your honesty. I've yet to find the stones to go manual...
Thank you! It’ll come in time, keep it up 👍🏼
Pleased I didn't go the DJI route. I am flying analogue ELRS. If it makes you feel any better, I changed controllers and my muscle memory from the old controller to put into air mode was where the disarm button is on the new controller... Disarmed it a fair few meters up and crashed. Interestingly I have crashed my DarwinFPV Cine25 twice now fairly hard and only had to replace a rubbing motor. I think if you hadn't had DJI you wouldn't have crashed so bad, as the safety net made this crash happen. Weird it broke so badly just on grass!
Yeah rather annoying, I think I’ll build my own 5” down the road once I get into it a bit more! Cheers for the comment
You can get a fairly affordable drone and use your DJI goggles and controller, which is a small win.
@@Sk8WineMedia as it stands the new goggles and controller are not compatible with the O3 air unit, so I’m a bit stuck until they make them compatible or release the O4 air unit
Ah yeah! DJI 🙃 I am sure they will… you would hope… it is only one generation. Forgot about that.
How difficult was the care refresh process? I've heard stories of DJI Acting like an insurance agent, finding any reason they can not to honor their coverage.
Of course I hear these things after paying for the service. But I've not yet needed to use it. Any pitfalls? Or ways you need to worry about getting screwed? What if I'm not recording video at the time of a crash?
Couldn’t have been easier, they sent a label, I sent it off and received a new drone a week later no questions asked
@@CraigPitts good to hear!
mono track for voice ? its only on the right channel
Sensor error… you switched to using sensors…. Doh.
Wish I hadn’t watched this. Haven’t flown FPV since around 2015, and don’t want to again, but it’s very tempting…
Hope the care refresh is painless
Fair point but it seems rather crazy that the fail safes won’t work with the slightest of bumps, I’ve heard this happening even with the emergency stop button! Granted I shouldn’t have had a small bump but it’s meant to be designed to take them 🤷🏼
Haha it’s great fun, I really just got back into it for Iceland, I want to get some of that dive action. Cheers for the comment mate
@@CraigPitts I think you just got unlucky that the sensors malfunctioned after your minor crash. I've definitely had similar and harder crashes than yours and never got that error. The most I've had was an IMU error for a short period after a bump, but I just waited a bit in manual mode before switching back to normal and it was fine.
I felt every second of your flight and it made me stressed as much as you ! You did quite well for a 1st full manual flight in real life. After flying Mavic Air, M3P and M4P, I got the Avata 2 and started learning on uncrashed simulator.... I have not flown it yet in real world in accro mode.... That's why I was feel fully empathic with the way you did it. My learning curve is not that fast and I always feel astonished whenever I see freestylers or racers going at full speed with such an incredible virtuosity. Anyhow, care refresh is here to repair our noobs mistakes. I really found that you managed quite smoothly with nice turns and keeping steady low. After repair, you'll be good for many other go ! Happy flying and thumbs up to you !
Thanks so much, appreciate the comment 🤘🏼
Cool video, mate.
@@paulgolden8183 thank you
I appreciate you sharing your experience. Sorry that it ended the way it did, but fingers are crossed for a nicer time of things in future! Cheers!
Cheers for the comment!
It was a really good first flight in manual mode.
If only you had landed after the first impact directly tho.
Beside that you did a awesome job flying that avata 2 👍👍
Yeah I wish I’d just tried to land it, we live and learn! Appreciate the comment 🤘🏼
Didn’t he do well! Before the crash 😀 I’m kinda hoping I don’t do that crashy thing !
Geez…I never noticed the gum. I have the original Avata and was wanting to get the new one but after seeing how fragile the new one is, I’m having second thoughts.
you fuk your drone up day one lol lol Well bro you said you want to know what it feels like to fly in real life This is it bro welcome to FPV you made it lol. soon you will go fly and have 6 drones and come home with 0 working lol thats true flying lol
😂😂 "my legs are shaking" couldn't stop laughing when you said that as I know the feel first time flying my avata 2. It got better after a pack or 2 lol.
Haha the adrenaline dump was real 😅
This is pretty much how I crashed mine ! I was under the impression you could switch from M back to Normal and the drone will Stop ! This is obviously not the case because mine did what yours did and smashed in to ground and broke.
Ah that sucks man, yeah it’s pretty annoying, hope you had care refresh!
Lets not be discouraged. FPV = plenty of crashes. Care refresh is a MUST! And we need to keep in mind the emergency pause button, not the switch. After few hours in simulators, have some flights in real life without any stunts because we tend to become over confident. First flight in manual suppose to be a normal flight just to get the feel of how drone react. Then back to sim. So first few days with the Avata, no stunts! Build properly your muscle memory in simulator, you will know when you're ready. Its painful to see professionals in action and not being able to do the same but ask them how many times they crashed or how many times they tried to get the best shot. Its hard but its rewarding! I think patience and resilience is the key here.
Thanks for making me feel better about my progress on the sims! I’m only 3-4 hours in and still SUCK so I’ll reassess at the 15 hour mark 😂
Haha, one day you’ll pick up the controller and it’ll all start to click, keep it up 👍🏼
I am going to fly mine in sport mode for a full year to get my money's worth of fun out my avata 2 before I flip it in manual and crash.
It wasn't your fault honestly. You trained on Liftoff and got used to quads with high power to weight ratio!
Then you attempted a split-S 20 meters above the ground with the Avata and it fell like a brick. I noticed the terrible prop wash due to small props and high weight.
Also: that little impact broke the gyro & gps ? I crashed my 5" quad into a field many times and all I had to do is to blow the mud out of the frame & engines with an air compressor :-)
To be fair I started flying before getting Liftoff and I didn't even knew you're supposed to throttle down while doing a Split-S ;-)
❤I saw a really cool video. 👍
Okay, glad you got to narrate your flight, but when people crash, I never understand why with the struggles, and discomforts you mentioned, why didn’t you just slow down and be more precisely practiced with your moves?
My low buget drone from Aliexpress for 100€ (3inch Cinewhoop) has already seen several crashes that were much worse than yours, but my drone is still intact 🤔🤣
Oh dear mate 😅
🤣
@@CraigPitts What simulato do you used?
@@isaacramirezfpv Liftoff mainly
Bummer..😮
Tasty gum?
Nice video, it's fun to watch you slowly getting better!! I'm currently flying my Avata 2 and am also very unsure.
However, I have something to criticise about your microphone. Unfortunately, it sounds very unpleasant to listen to you smacking your lips while chewing the gum.
It's too bad they produced such a fragile product. Lots of other options out there on the market. And with firmware like Betaflight or Inav you can start out using angle mode which is much easier than acro and progress over time.
Yeah I’ll move into something like a nazgul or chimera at some point
Kind of hysterical and ironic that someone that looks like he could beat the fuk out of whoever he wants to is so worried about his fpv drone flying. Drones bring back the inner child for sure!
The googles that you have are fine but DJI drones are junk one little crash sets you back order a carbon fiber frame racing or freestyle drone that has a compatible DJI Air Unit an get back to flying! Save the Avata 2 for when you get good!!!
The avata 2 is a horrible horrible drone for learning acro for two reasons.
1) It's really fragile
2) It's underpowered.
And so those beginners that wants to do rolls and loops withint 5 minutes they put themselves in a situation they can't get out. But if it would have had more power they would have been able to get out of it.
That's why nobody should learn acro on an avata 2. Just fly in sport mode, that's fun as well. Get something light and repairable to learn manual with.
Get really good first, then slowly explore the limits of the avata 2 in acro.
It brakes so easily like that. Great technology with crap chinese plastic 😅
Nice video but next time pls without the gum💀
Fair point, I totally forgot I was chewing it cos I was so focused on flying
Hearing you chew gum made this unwatchable. Stooooop