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  • Опубліковано 9 жов 2024
  • New UFC antitrust settlement news with some sad fighter declarations from Shane Carwin, Wanderlei Silva, and Spencer Fisher. They all have CTE and/or TBI.
    If the new settlement is approved, the UFC put the $375 million in a settlement fund and payments will be made in three installments. $125 million paid within three days of the court's preliminary approval, the next by $125 million upon final approval, and the last $125 million by June 30th of next year.
    Mixed Martial Arts (MMA) / UFC news update.
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КОМЕНТАРІ • 306

  • @hulkman245
    @hulkman245 2 дні тому +149

    I remember that Shane had a job in mechanical engineering, and the UFC wanted him to quit his job. He said no because that job included health insurance for him ans his family

    • @mamster233
      @mamster233 2 дні тому +8

      @hulkman245 wow that's great to hear!

    • @crazypato3752
      @crazypato3752 2 дні тому +2

      Does the health insurance is valid if Carwin was a fighter?

    • @mamster233
      @mamster233 День тому

      @@crazypato3752 there are too many variables. For all we know, Carwin could have been doing headbutt contests with his neighbour in his spare time.

    • @crazypato3752
      @crazypato3752 День тому

      @@mamster233 but I wonder wether his enginering job respects his health care right when he was also an active pro MMA fighter

    • @ChrisF-fx5du
      @ChrisF-fx5du День тому

      @@hulkman245 water treatment plant

  • @bondjames4053
    @bondjames4053 2 дні тому +190

    Meanwhile Dana given millions to influencers you're trash Dana

    • @BTRshow
      @BTRshow 2 дні тому +13

      You're about to make the ufc bootlickers cry 😂

    • @DQuanAlSamirOHoulihan
      @DQuanAlSamirOHoulihan 2 дні тому +7

      Spot on, that clown is nefarious.

    • @37MKE
      @37MKE 2 дні тому +2

      Im not aware of what you are saying, can you elobarate ?

    • @Jeremyramone
      @Jeremyramone 2 дні тому +1

      Health care, especially mental health care is liberal communism!!!!
      d dump and the gop

    • @kodywalkerunfiltered
      @kodywalkerunfiltered 2 дні тому

      Dana wife beater White gambles with more than that in a weekend.

  • @Fossor100
    @Fossor100 2 дні тому +86

    Conor should sue the UFC. He has all the symptoms

    • @Matt_Mosley1983
      @Matt_Mosley1983 2 дні тому +5

      but also all the money, sooo...
      (And the coke adds to it)

    • @uuuuu9313
      @uuuuu9313 2 дні тому +3

      Major chunk made outside UFC
      Promotion and brand endorsement
      Sale of whiskey brand
      Movie
      🥊 Boxing

    • @joehogan8013
      @joehogan8013 2 дні тому

      He’s been tkod one time, if he has CTE it’s from training, in reality he’s just a junkie

    • @Matt_Mosley1983
      @Matt_Mosley1983 2 дні тому +3

      @@uuuuu9313 wow, what a fangirl response 🤣

    • @ACSteph-i4o
      @ACSteph-i4o 2 дні тому +2

      You need to call it... I can't call it for you.

  • @brandynmancinas8346
    @brandynmancinas8346 2 дні тому +117

    They lived by the sword but they should not die by the sword. All past fighters should at least have medical coverage for the rest of their lives.

    • @runman85
      @runman85 2 дні тому +2

      Lol.... You probably think social security is a good idea too, huh?

    • @ipleedafif8033
      @ipleedafif8033 2 дні тому +9

      ​@@runman85why isn't it?

    • @Thunderfist_McBeefcake
      @Thunderfist_McBeefcake 2 дні тому +10

      NFL couldn’t get lifetime health insurance. Stop it.

    • @mamster233
      @mamster233 2 дні тому +2

      brandynmancinas8346 8t's too much to expect the UFC to provide healthcare forever for every fighter..

    • @heavyartillery-qm5hu
      @heavyartillery-qm5hu 2 дні тому +6

      That's not fair tho. Imagine how bs it would be if you could sign up for the UFC, fight once and they have to pay you for the rest of your life.

  • @DarkPsyde721
    @DarkPsyde721 2 дні тому +67

    Man Silva got that from training at his own gym, those guys use to KO eachother for sport 😂

    • @zak5102
      @zak5102 2 дні тому

      Ok still part of it tho?

    • @mrgangsta135
      @mrgangsta135 2 дні тому

      Rampage: Enters the room

    • @ChrisF-fx5du
      @ChrisF-fx5du День тому

      @@DarkPsyde721 doesn't really help when he's fighting chael randomly outta the cage

    • @ibelucrative9920
      @ibelucrative9920 День тому

      Exactly I’ve seen some chutebox videos during the pride era and they were fucking savages.

  • @mosshark
    @mosshark 2 дні тому +41

    Doctors: Heavy, repeated blows to the head can cause traumatic brain injuries that have symptons which get progressively worse over time.
    Dana: That's not necessarily true.

    • @Shifytee123
      @Shifytee123 2 дні тому +6

      Dana: Powerslap!!

    • @evosteff
      @evosteff 2 дні тому

      Dana denied that PowerSlap causes concussions in a press conference a couple days ago

    • @mosshark
      @mosshark 2 дні тому +1

      @@Shifytee123 Also Dana: Health insurance!? what? That's for people like Ariel Helwani. Now sign the damn contract!

  • @sly_tendencies87
    @sly_tendencies87 2 дні тому +14

    Dana has always laughed this off as, "Brain damage comes with the job." Yet he's against a fighters' union. Dude's a bald Vince McMahon.

  • @ipleedafif8033
    @ipleedafif8033 2 дні тому +25

    I can see the Slap league slappers saying the same thing in a few years.

    • @wrestler-kickboxer2524
      @wrestler-kickboxer2524 2 дні тому +2

      *months

    • @ipleedafif8033
      @ipleedafif8033 2 дні тому +1

      @@wrestler-kickboxer2524 remember when Dana would get mad at the UFC refs for not stopping the fights early because he was concern for their brain damage and safety? 🤣🤣🤣

    • @larryhernandez76
      @larryhernandez76 День тому +2

      One of the biggest jokes of all time 🤪 the slap 👋 league is just plan stupid 🥴🤪🥴

  • @bidenonabender5903
    @bidenonabender5903 2 дні тому +21

    mood swings, addiction, depression, anxiety, irritability, sleep problems, fear... wow sounds like over half the people in the western world suffer from TBI/CTE!

    • @mamster233
      @mamster233 День тому +1

      @bidenonabender5903 that's true as well. These guys MIGHT just be getting older... Carwin literally fought twice since 2010... Wanderlei was much younger in PRIDE as well. You can't expect to be at your mental peak forever.

    • @bidenonabender5903
      @bidenonabender5903 День тому

      @@mamster233 and let's not forget a lot of gyms like Chute Boxe Academy where wanderlei, shogun and charles olives are from are well known to go really hard in training, no head gear, full power punches, wanderlei got KOed more often just in sparring than most MMA fighters get KOed over their entire carrer.
      heck wanderlei got KOed by crazy horse/felony bennett backstage and still walked out to fight the same evening...

  • @ImageNationProject
    @ImageNationProject 2 дні тому +34

    Crazy, cus I think of Carwin as causing CTE, not receiving it. Fighters should be paid more, but how many of those concussions were delivered in training? Wanderlei is the last guy you want speaking for it because the gym wars he had are insane. He KO'd Shogun at Chute Boxe for a dog if I remember correctly.

    • @mamster233
      @mamster233 2 дні тому +1

      a dog??

    • @hotbutterypopcorn9652
      @hotbutterypopcorn9652 2 дні тому +3

      I mean...you kinda have to train to be able tom compete in the UFC so it's still kind of treading that line.
      If they were getting paid what they're worth then maybe they would've been able to retire earlier and avoid further injury...ever stop to think about that?

    • @ImageNationProject
      @ImageNationProject 2 дні тому +6

      @hotbutterypopcorn9652 I agree, but in a legal sense these dudes could have ended up at Pride, Bellator, Strikeforce, or even nowhere. Many a fighters have left UFC, went to Bellator, only to get KOd repeatedly n beaten worse than they ever did in the UFC. So where's Bellators part to pay?
      If I spend 2 years at Man City n had a few minor injuries, n then 6 years at Arsenal n had more injuries, and my worst injuries were before I played for a team... why should Man City foot the bill.
      Fighters need to be paid more, fact. But Bellator/PFL probably sweating right now, because they were in the business of getting washed up guys with names KO'd.

    • @MMAMonke
      @MMAMonke 2 дні тому +1

      Training should be covered too because it’s covered in all real sports organizations.

    • @ImageNationProject
      @ImageNationProject 2 дні тому +1

      @MMAMonke it is not a team based sport. It's not like you have these NFL teams which are multibillion dollar franchises. With your logic Interscope record should pay for people's piano and singing lessons, just in case they sign them down the line.
      Also, the fighter has the freedom to train wherever they wish. They could join a gym n be like "YEAH ITS 500K A YEAR TO TRAIN THERE, HERES THE BILL UFC"
      WTF 🤣

  • @scottyandell3644
    @scottyandell3644 2 дні тому +13

    Silva didn't think about that when he was soccer kicking people in the head in Pride. LOL

    • @Threelegs94
      @Threelegs94 2 дні тому +2

      He was trying to earn his money tho

    • @scottyandell3644
      @scottyandell3644 2 дні тому +2

      @@Threelegs94 He really did too. He was one of my all time favorites.

    • @charlieluque1262
      @charlieluque1262 2 години тому

      LOL? really? what about this is funny to you?

  • @Lilmanskis
    @Lilmanskis 2 дні тому +14

    Wanderlei is like dude i have a whole different face now thats all.

  • @swiftlee4
    @swiftlee4 2 дні тому +3

    I pray that every single one of them can find peace after this 🙏🏾😭

  • @skies580
    @skies580 2 дні тому +34

    The settlement changed my bum life

  • @gregorysgarrison
    @gregorysgarrison 2 дні тому +35

    I know it sounds cold. But if you're deeply concerned about CTE and the health of cage fighters, you probably shouldn't be a fan of any type of prize fighting. You should advocate for the abolition of those sports. Furthermore, it isn't a job at the mill. It is a chance for gold and glory, like something from the middle ages. You don't sign up as a fighter and get a pension and health insurance. Just like an individual fight, you either win or lose at a fight career. You made it big, became a star, got rich, or you didn't. Why any of you think this is like going to work as a government employee I don't understand.

    • @BTRshow
      @BTRshow 2 дні тому +1

      NFL, NBA, and NHL gives out retirement/life coverage and those are dangerous sports. The UFC and MMA should pay fighters poorly and give no Covereage because it's dangerous? 😂 should linemen who fix power poles not get coverage because it's an absurdly dangerous job? That boot you're looking must taste earthy 😂

    • @santiagodsl
      @santiagodsl 2 дні тому +2

      Exactly this. Nobody is forcing the fighters to do something they don't want and I am pretty sure everybody knows the possible outcome of pursuing physical violence as a way to make a living. Haven't you see how everybody aspires to be in the UFC? I am a big fan but at the end it is all business and it works for some and not so much for others...sadly.

    • @wipkpremium5691
      @wipkpremium5691 День тому

      I agree with most of what you're saying. That said this amount of money is nothing to the UFC. I don't even complain about fighter pay either. If you pay them too much they'll stop fighting, but if they're done fighting and need to pay medical bills that's different.

  • @christianadams211
    @christianadams211 2 дні тому +4

    This is prolly the most important video u have done. Thanks for trying to makes these amazing athletes lives better.

  • @upvotecomment2110
    @upvotecomment2110 2 дні тому +13

    Settlement
    1. Pay the past casualties
    2. Settle to destroy the issue now
    3. Don't change the contracts where top fighters gets crippled

    • @BTRshow
      @BTRshow 2 дні тому +5

      Mma fighters are such cowards that they will NEVER unionize, so the ufc will get away with this. Nothing will change besides PPV prices going up 😂

    • @BRAINFxck10
      @BRAINFxck10 2 дні тому +4

      ​​@@BTRshow they're not cowards you're the coward, they're just selfish because of how the competition is structured

    • @heavyartillery-qm5hu
      @heavyartillery-qm5hu 2 дні тому +1

      @@BTRshow Unions would ruin the sport. People fight to be the best, not because they want to help others.

    • @BTRshow
      @BTRshow 2 дні тому +1

      ​@BRAINFxck10 they're scared of messing up their 20k/20k deals by joining a union and getting more money. They're cowards and dumb to boot. Just also great to watch. Cry about it

    • @BTRshow
      @BTRshow 2 дні тому +4

      ​@heavyartillery-qm5hu unions makes the sport legitimate and sustainable for athletes. Fighters having right to health coverage, life insurance, retirement/401k, and a 40/60 minimum revenue split wouldnt ruin the sport. PFL, bellator, and one already have decent splits. Boxing is unionized and we saw usyk vs AJ, Usyk vs Fury, Crawford vs Spence, Davis vs Garcia, Serrano vs Taylor, Garcia vs Haney, Floyd vs Canelo. Bivol vs Beterbiev is happening. The best will fight the best if they want to fight.

  • @robertomunoz3512
    @robertomunoz3512 2 дні тому +1

    Shane Carwin gets forgotten in the history books. He was an undeniable legend, one of the biggest names at the time he was competing.

  • @iagocastelobranco3851
    @iagocastelobranco3851 2 дні тому +3

    Wanderley Silva is a Multi millionare, what life changing money he is talking about? This is a generic lawyer writing. I seriously think that the guys who will receive most are pushing for the settlement to get a new car or something, and hurting people who actually need more money from the agreement.

  • @MMAMonke
    @MMAMonke 2 дні тому +2

    The Fertitas literally structured the UFC after the WWE. This isn’t a real sports organization. This is literally WWE but with real fighting

  • @pimpjoose7747
    @pimpjoose7747 День тому

    I personally believe Carwin's punches carried the scariest amount of power behind them, even more so than Ngannou.

  • @LiraInc-ux4mo
    @LiraInc-ux4mo 2 дні тому +15

    I mean “blunt force” trauma to the head…why did they sign those contracts? Don’t get me wrong it sucks but there was a conscious decision to fight n put your body through this.

    • @BTRshow
      @BTRshow 2 дні тому +15

      Guys in 2010 didn't think their sponsors would be taken away in 2014 after signing a ridiculous 8-12 fight deal. Before 2014, being a ufc fighter paid very well because sponsor money.

    • @youtubeaccount3704
      @youtubeaccount3704 2 дні тому

      🤦‍♂️

    • @BRAINFxck10
      @BRAINFxck10 2 дні тому +4

      That's not what the lawsuit is about numbskull, it's about the UFC suppressing fighter pay, the medical bills just highlight the problem

    • @RedceLL1978
      @RedceLL1978 2 дні тому +4

      This has already been argued in court in so many other compensation cases and the jist of it is, if every company could just say you knew the risk, then there's no such thing as liability to anything, in any capacity whatsoever. Companies have a responsibility to protect their workers and are beholden to the Occupational Safety and Health Act of 1970. UFC doesn't get special treatment and is inexplicably just not beholden to the law while every other company is.

  • @Palestinethegreat
    @Palestinethegreat 2 дні тому +2

    This is insane honestly the fact that no one is even asking about this in any press conference for the ufc. I honestly might stop watching MMA.

  • @PeterFeltersnatch852
    @PeterFeltersnatch852 2 дні тому +5

    I fully agrer with fighters being underpaid... But these fighters knew when they decided this career path that they would be getting kicked, punched, kneed, elbowed etc in the HEAD! What did you expect.. Come on guys!!

    • @SiegfriedLextr
      @SiegfriedLextr 2 дні тому +1

      finally someone making sense.

    • @Georocksf
      @Georocksf 2 дні тому

      I think they expected to be treated like the other major sports athletes when it comes to contracts and health insurance. Unfortunately mma is not even 35 years old yet. I’m sure players were getting shafted just the same as when the nfl was just 35 years old

    • @AlienPsychoPacifist
      @AlienPsychoPacifist 18 годин тому

      Those other sports leagues didn't just hand down players unions because of enlightenment. The players fought for it. So, fighters are fighting for it here.

  • @antondb7934
    @antondb7934 2 дні тому +1

    Devil's advocate here: " I am a victim of TBI in MMA. Which I of course received SPECIFICALLY and ONLY in the UFC. A sport I willingly, actively and vehemently pursued knowing the consequences. (generic list of symptoms - depression, mood swings and irritability) So anyway, pay me UFC. Oh and I'd like the funds now if you don't mind, not later. "

  • @calholli
    @calholli День тому +1

    The Fertitta brothers are laughing all the way back around to the bank right now. lol. Boy did they ever sell at the right time; and bought at the right time. Bought it for only 2 million and sold most for 4 billion, then sold the rest a year later. "The Fertitta brothers sold the UFC for an estimated $4 billion in July 2016 to WME-IMG, along with private equity firms Silver Lake Partners and Kohlberg Kravis Roberts (KKR). The brothers, Lorenzo and Frank, had purchased the UFC in 2001 for $2 million.
    The Fertitta brothers sold their remaining stakes in the UFC in August 2017 for $5 billion. The sale was at the time considered the largest deal in professional sports history, but has since been surpassed by the $8 billion sale of Formula One."

  • @yloez6532
    @yloez6532 2 дні тому

    Stout vs Fisher on spike tv was a banger, one of the first mma fights I ever remember watching. Sad to see what fisher is going through.

  • @nicorepetto5781
    @nicorepetto5781 2 дні тому +1

    I have never been more glad that I gave up my fighting career to pursue and normal one

  • @Zescapespj
    @Zescapespj День тому +1

    That was super dark and depressing but I needed to hear it. Dana White is a fucking monster.

  • @angryzombie8088
    @angryzombie8088 2 дні тому +1

    This is ridiculous... These fighters get TBI & CTE from fighting each other, so they should sue each other instead of UFC.
    And these fighters also fights in other organizations, not just UFC. And some fighters do hard sparring, the causes is plenty.

  • @ramonruiz6253
    @ramonruiz6253 2 дні тому +1

    Truly sad to hear this. At the same time all the fighters know what they are and are not getting with benefits. Believe me, they deserve it all but until UFC changes then it's a decision the fighters need to decide of this path is worth it or not 🙏

  • @WalterGalindo
    @WalterGalindo 2 дні тому +2

    I do belive all of those fighters have cte an other injuries, but I also believe a lot of it happened during training, old school fighters just went at it like there was no tomorrow in the gym, tomorrow has come, I hope they get that money, and all of Health insurance and best practices gets sorted out for the current and upcoming guys, I love mma, but it destroys everybody, nobody walks away unscathed, mma takes its pound of flesh every time

  • @JD-df3zl
    @JD-df3zl 2 дні тому +1

    "Do you wanna be a f***in' fighter?!"
    Dana White

  • @bigman6781
    @bigman6781 2 дні тому +2

    Boxing has a few hundred years history of fighters who end up punch drunk(CTE). MMA in the public eyes is around 31yrs old so unfortunately we are going to see more stories like these pop up. It’s hard being a fan sometimes knowing this is could be the future for most fighters.

    • @mamster233
      @mamster233 День тому

      @bigman6781 society has been aware of brain damage since the 70's when Ali retired. It's not something new

    • @bigman6781
      @bigman6781 День тому

      @@mamster233 since before that. 1928 was the first time it was observed for boxing. Mma is relatively young and it was always touted as being safer than boxing so we’re definitely bound to see more fighters going through this.

  • @EKk8819
    @EKk8819 2 дні тому +9

    Nobody put a gun to their head, they clearly want money. Carwin saying he's an addict, then "HE need the money NOW" is crazy.. He'd probably OD being an addict with that kind of money.. I don't agree with this. These guys are adults who chose to fight and sign a contract, knew what they were getting into and have had a bunch of fights outside the UFC too.. So how is this UFC fault? Most of these guys have had fights and been KO'd a bunch outside the UFC. Just a bunch of cans who want free money... Remember when this was about "Changing the sport", now it's "I NEED MONEY NOW".. lol

    • @PeterFeltersnatch852
      @PeterFeltersnatch852 2 дні тому +2

      I couldn't agree with you more... These guys knew that they were gonna get punched in the face for a living. This is definitely a money grab

    • @JD-df3zl
      @JD-df3zl 2 дні тому +1

      When Dana asks: "Do you wanna be a f***in' fighter?!" Just say no

    • @kayvons5142
      @kayvons5142 2 дні тому

      The UFC completely bought out their competition and kept fighter pay artificially low due to the lack of competition/ other organizations. Regardless, whether you’re a complete free market person or a socialist the one thing they have in common is that government should intervene to break up and fine monopolies just like their doing now.

    • @EKk8819
      @EKk8819 2 дні тому

      @@PeterFeltersnatch852 yes and this all started to change the sport, to get the "Muhammad Ali act" in MMA so fighters get paid more, and get insurance. Then UFC threw out some money for a settlement and they ALL immediately jumped on it. They accepted to settle but the JUDGE turned it down because he said this was about changing the sport not money, but all the guys just see dollar signs now.. It's kind of pathetic too they're all adults blaming UFC for their decisions.. Most of them STILL got paid more then a 2-3 year salary each fight. And we're suppose to feel sorry for them? I'd get KO'd by Carwin right now for how much money he got paid in the Lesnar fight... This thing is silly.

    • @EKk8819
      @EKk8819 2 дні тому

      @@JD-df3zl Carwin got more money in that 1 Lesnar fight then most of us will get working full time for 10 years.. And he got almost just as much when he KO'd Mir and won the interm belt.. Just cuz he's an addict and wasted it all on drugs doesn't mean the UFC owe him anything..

  • @tokiburoak7457
    @tokiburoak7457 День тому +1

    You accept the consequences when you agree to fight in MMA for a living. Nobody forced them to fight.

    • @GWFHegel-ms7gz
      @GWFHegel-ms7gz День тому +1

      So if you get hot oil spilled on you at the burger joint you work at, you aren't entitled to compensation?

  • @Krezo200
    @Krezo200 2 дні тому +4

    mmadigest for life

  • @Fluoride_Jones
    @Fluoride_Jones День тому +1

    The thumbs down to thumbs up ratio on this video is crazy! Don't shoot the messenger, guys (and gals). MMA Digest is just reporting on the news, not making it!

  • @davem6749
    @davem6749 2 дні тому +2

    These cats are complaining that they got hit and hurt while fighting voluntarily hahha
    aye ok then 😂😂😂

  • @eaglewinnings8003
    @eaglewinnings8003 2 дні тому +1

    So they get 3 easy payments of $200 each?

  • @ChrisF-fx5du
    @ChrisF-fx5du 2 дні тому +1

    Carwin was working a regular job so he could obtain insurance at a water treatment plant

  • @DoubtingThomas333
    @DoubtingThomas333 2 дні тому +1

    I'm struggling, I'm struggling and my wife deserves better and i have little money but yeah we just had our fourth child

  • @nicorepetto5781
    @nicorepetto5781 2 дні тому +1

    It's almost as if fighting in dangerous... The UFC can easily afford health insurance though

  • @trumpforKing808
    @trumpforKing808 2 дні тому +1

    You knew wtf you signed up for!

  • @TheLaird123
    @TheLaird123 2 дні тому +5

    I miss mmadigest 1min videos, 199club, Mir head bumping, wanderlai Silva "job job". I guess the UA-cam algorithm won

    • @BTRshow
      @BTRshow 2 дні тому +5

      Why does mmadigest wanting to make more money with longer videos bother you so much? You get upset about mma on point, itpmma, and theweasle not having 1 minute videos too? Don't let your attention span and nostalgia goggles make you dislike quality content. Not even trolls like lucastracy and mma guru make short content 😂 all big dogs make long content and mmadigest is a big dog

    • @HenricWallmark
      @HenricWallmark 2 дні тому +1

      Job is job

  • @texeltexel2009
    @texeltexel2009 2 дні тому +1

    I hear lots of complaining for short-term money, but wasn't the settlement refused by the judge because it was too low and unfair for current/future fighters because it didn't stipulate changes in the contracts?
    So then, wouldn't it be better for these guys to tough it out so that many more fighters won't have to go through what they are going through now?

  • @usernotfound904
    @usernotfound904 2 дні тому +1

    Dana’s feelings don’t care about the facts. ❄️

  • @jSBEBfipUEWFHy
    @jSBEBfipUEWFHy 2 дні тому +12

    i get it if it's American or Australian football / soccer but a sport where you're trying to punch somebody in the face? If these guys had early stoppages they would of been crying 'let me bang bro'. This wasn't an accident. They knew the risks and knew it was greater than other sports. They could of declined and started their own fighter league and done things differently. They chose not to and chose to fight and chose to bang

    • @joshgrobansdrymouth
      @joshgrobansdrymouth 2 дні тому +5

      You know CTE wasn’t commonly known back when Shane Carwin was fighting right? Also, how would you expect them to just get up and start their own fight league, shit costs millions and they get paid peanuts. May need to get your own head checked out dude

    • @RedceLL1978
      @RedceLL1978 2 дні тому +3

      So you're saying the UFC should get special treatment and shouldn't be beholden to the Occupational Safety Act of 1970 while every other company is. Gotcha. Also this argument has been smacked down so many times it's ridiculous and laughable. All jobs have occupational hazards, if every job could just say welp! Sorry that leg got sliced off by our equipment, not our problem, also you're fired and better luck at your next company! Then why have any workplace safety laws at all or any regulations for anything at all. You see how ludicrous you sound. Ok then.

    • @blackhog42
      @blackhog42 2 дні тому +1

      ​@RedceLL1978 but it's not a traditional "job", right? Aren't the fighters some sort of paid contractors? They're not traditionally employed by the UFC, they only perform a few times per year

    • @carritohmc
      @carritohmc 2 дні тому +2

      Seems people in the comments aren't understanding: the lawsuit is about antitrust laws, saying someone knew the risks is NOT a legal defense, because it's about abusing the market, competition, etc. the issue is NOT that "they knew the risks and signed the contract" but rather, the UFC "allegedly" violated antitrust laws so they were the only buyer in town for the fighters' services, the term for this is monopsony. The CTE was likely brought up in court to highlight impacts of the alleged practices.

    • @BTRshow
      @BTRshow 2 дні тому +3

      Fighters in 2010 who signed 10+ fight contracts didn't know their sponsors were gonna be taken away in 2014. Many guys went from making over $100k a fight to going on a $15k/$15k split almost overnight. They already don't have health coverage, and retirement/401k.

  • @YouGotPropofol
    @YouGotPropofol День тому

    These guys also go under a lot of general anesthesia during their careers. Knees, hips, foot, eye, elbow, etc. probably 5-10 times in a short few years. UFC won’t let them fight after a knockout for a few months but they still go and get surgery with anesthesia so they can heal during their suspension. This gotta add to it.

  • @Cani-Gulah
    @Cani-Gulah 2 дні тому +2

    Wonder-lay soccer kick silva needs to see sit all the way back in his seat

  • @anthonycukier1807
    @anthonycukier1807 2 дні тому +1

    Carwin was known to go hard in camps, I think that's where he probably accumulated the majority of his conditions.

  • @bojiden9830
    @bojiden9830 День тому +1

    Wait til the power slappers file a lawsuit

  • @candycheese3251
    @candycheese3251 День тому +1

    Wanderlei suffered all that agony in Pride mostly. Nose surgery was a choice after it was Pride smashed.

  • @drphil4209
    @drphil4209 2 дні тому +1

    All employment comes with sacrafice.

  • @AlwaysAtMe
    @AlwaysAtMe 2 дні тому +6

    Who would have thought choosing a sport that requires taking punches and kicks to the head would cause brain trauma. If only they knew of the risk before doing such a risky sport 🙄

    • @Gobando
      @Gobando 2 дні тому +4

      Who would of thought that having a business where your athletes get brain damage would cause you to pay for their medical and life changing damages.

    • @BTRshow
      @BTRshow 2 дні тому +2

      Boxers and nfl players also go through brain trauma. The difference is boxing and NFL pays you enough to make it worth it. Dangerous jobs are suppose to pay well. Ufc and mma is the most dangerous sport with the literal worst pay now sponsors are gone. No 401k/retiremet, no medical coverage outside of the cage, family/friends don't get covered in travel expenses, no life insurance, and now no sponsors. Being locked into a contract with sponsors was worth it. They got their sponsors taken away and couldn't leave their contracts. That's why they sued. Don't see how you guys paint the ufc as Saints Academy but Dana has a cult following him 😂 so I'm not surprised

    • @Thunderfist_McBeefcake
      @Thunderfist_McBeefcake 2 дні тому

      @@Gobando NFL players don’t get lifetime health insurance. Plus fighters are independent contractors, so lifetime health insurance isn’t possible.

  • @Chuck26814
    @Chuck26814 2 дні тому +1

    Tonight Dana is gonnna be placing $250k blackjack bets. These guys don’t understand, fighting for the ufc is an opportunity.
    Thank Dana for the opportunity and move on!

  • @patrickmcdonagh539
    @patrickmcdonagh539 2 дні тому +2

    Fuck me he was one of the most level headed fighters we have ever seen.. He got hurt in the gonzaga fight and took a beating against junior dos santos but when you compare that to somebody like Alistair Overeem its only a tiny fraction.. I guess it doesn't take much in some peoples cases

  • @Josh_Exitcamper
    @Josh_Exitcamper 2 дні тому +1

    Shane Carwin has CTE?, he had that undefeated run finishing opponents on the very first round without taking damage…he lost to Brock and JDS but that’s about it.

    • @PunisherSL99
      @PunisherSL99 2 дні тому

      He took a lot of punches from JDS in their fight

    • @PeterFeltersnatch852
      @PeterFeltersnatch852 2 дні тому

      I guess you forget what his face look like when he fought Brock Lesnar

  • @Ufc12355
    @Ufc12355 2 дні тому +1

    Why even fight. It’s not worth unless you are Mcgregor

  • @teagueroellchen2634
    @teagueroellchen2634 2 дні тому +2

    2:53 that’s what happens when you fight guys in the UFC and not pride😂

  • @deshan79
    @deshan79 2 дні тому

    That background music playing was torturous.

  • @AgtX999
    @AgtX999 2 дні тому +23

    poor guys forced into cage fighting

    • @Gobando
      @Gobando 2 дні тому +7

      The ufc isn't forced into having a business that causes athletes brain damage but they still in that business so is only fair for them to pay for it.

    • @theymockedjesusalso
      @theymockedjesusalso 2 дні тому +6

      They could look like you. Id say their lucky.

    • @AgtX999
      @AgtX999 2 дні тому

      @@Gobando the real crime is calling powerslap a sport & having cte from that.

    • @runman85
      @runman85 2 дні тому

      ​@@Gobandoclam down, commie.

    • @datboifriz366
      @datboifriz366 2 дні тому +6

      No one is forcing you to work at the gay bar down the street. However, if you got hurt at said job, I’m sure you would want to make sure your medical expenses are taken care of. Wouldn’t you?

  • @Arm_Brah
    @Arm_Brah 2 дні тому +1

    I dont feel bad for them, they knew the risks

  • @TheNightmareA7X
    @TheNightmareA7X 2 дні тому +5

    Okay but Wanderlei and Carwin probably got most of their damage from training. Everybody knows Wanderlei’s camp are notorious for KOing each other and Schaub used to say him and Carwin would try to knock each other out all the time in sparring. I get that they should absolutely get paid but some of it is on them due to not training properly.

  • @johnnybear111
    @johnnybear111 День тому

    Fighting can cause significant and permanent damage? Who knew? Hopefully the money helps some of these poor dudes.

  • @pokemonovice9758
    @pokemonovice9758 2 дні тому

    I hope the UFC personally takes cares of Shane, forget about the lawsuit or whatever other political situation

  • @etimani7282
    @etimani7282 2 дні тому

    It sucks but you knew what you were signing...it states all that in writing, the hurt business is tough

  • @joesalyers
    @joesalyers 2 дні тому

    Shane Carwin was only ever hit clean in 2 UFC fights. JDS and Mir & Brock barely touched him, Gonzaga hit his legs, and his total fight time is just under 30 minutes in 6 fights. Only his 2 losses went past 1 round. Only the JDS fight went the distance his average fight time is 2 minutes 40 seconds. So most of his damage came from MMA training, college football and wrestling most likely. I’m not down playing it in any way but when your MMA career is only 14 fights with 12 being first round stoppages in Under 2 minutes then it’s not very likely that your 6 fights in the UFC would even come close to the damage you suffered in 1 football game. When Carwin went into his title fight with Brock he only had 16 minutes total fight time in 12 fights. Let that sink in. That’s an average of 1 minute 20 seconds per fight. The Brock fight was Shane hitting Brock until he gassed and Brock secured a head & arm in round 2. The JDS fight was the only fight Shane ever had that he met any resistance what so ever. So it sad that you can basically have 1 fight where you get hit and it gives you CTE

  • @hayseanward
    @hayseanward 2 дні тому +1

    As a fighter aren’t you aware of the potential danger and consequences of your craft? I think some kind of retirement plan for fighters who have X amount of years would be awesome.

  • @WhereIsSchmitty
    @WhereIsSchmitty 2 дні тому +1

    At the end of the day, these grown men signed a contract to be paid what they got paid. Theyre lucky to get what they’re getting

  • @herc20000
    @herc20000 2 дні тому

    Lucky they kept Michael Bisping on in other roles, or he would have been signing it all as well.

  • @damon2772nomad
    @damon2772nomad 2 дні тому +2

    Who could have guessed getting starched would lead to permanent damage?

  • @nastygopher6776
    @nastygopher6776 10 годин тому

    This is why GSP walked away

  • @matthewnewsome8632
    @matthewnewsome8632 День тому +1

    And I guarantee all these statements wasn't their own but from their lawyers smh all their statements have similar if not identical "key point statements" and Silva shouldn't even be in this that dude did that to himself more in training and in pride than the UFC

    • @GWFHegel-ms7gz
      @GWFHegel-ms7gz День тому

      They have years of medical records to back up their claims you silly tw!t

  • @camillo1234
    @camillo1234 2 дні тому

    those slap contracts better be bullet proof

  • @herc20000
    @herc20000 2 дні тому

    Couldn't wrestlers be doing the same thing to WWE?

  • @malpal5825
    @malpal5825 2 дні тому +2

    After he beat Gonzaga I remember one of Shane's coaches in a interview talked about how Shane would just take hits in sparring because they didn't hurt him and he would not feel the punches. A lot of fighters want to blame the UFC for their CTE but take no accountably for their training methods and the fights they had before or after their UFC run. Carwin had 6 fights in the UFC over the course of 4 years and has not been involved with the company in over 13 years.

    • @AlienPsychoPacifist
      @AlienPsychoPacifist 18 годин тому

      I'm sure his health issues is "accountability" enough. He was also training for the UFC, not for a side hustle. The UFC can afford this

    • @malpal5825
      @malpal5825 17 годин тому

      @@AlienPsychoPacifist his health issues is a consequence of the career he chose and the training methods he used. It's not like you can only get brain damage in the UFC. he chose to be a professional athlete. Surprise surprise its really taxing on your body. Boxers, wrestlers, football players and other athletes risk dealing with injuries they sustained during their career even long after they retire. He chose to just trade punches in gym wars instead of sparring light and using proper defense. Now that his actions and choices are catching up to him, he wants a company he only fought for 4 years and has not been working with in nearly 13 years now to pay for all his problems. 0 accountability.

    • @AlienPsychoPacifist
      @AlienPsychoPacifist 17 годин тому

      @@malpal5825 you can say the same about soldiers choosing to sacrifice their bodies and mental health: they get what they signed up for. Just let everyone suffer for all their choices, no worker protection, no safety net, beg on the streets for your choices. ...Or, we could pay for health expenses and Iive in a more civil society. Are fighters the top priority in society? No, but in this case the UFC can afford it, why not ease a bit of suffering rather than treating people as mere commodities to use and discard. You seem to think a bit of compassion for some will steal compassion from others. I think a lack of compassion for some normalizes lack of compassion for everyone else.

    • @malpal5825
      @malpal5825 16 годин тому

      @@AlienPsychoPacifist imagine every fighter who fought for the UFC for a couple of years got a lifetime pass to the UFC's wallet to pay their health expenses. Shane fought more times outside of the UFC than in it, and has not fought there since 2011. As soon as their a chance to make some money though, here he is blaming them for his health. You are free to think what you want though. Peace.

    • @AlienPsychoPacifist
      @AlienPsychoPacifist 16 годин тому

      @@malpal5825 it's sad how you are more concerned about a company that shares much less of its revenue with its workers (pay and coverage) than other sports leagues. Like, is your dream to be the next Dana White? Why do you want to discipline the fighter so much? Weird.

  • @jedibrooks7235
    @jedibrooks7235 2 дні тому +1

    This is what i think happen to Benoit. Cte and tbi over time

    • @calholli
      @calholli День тому

      Same with Cowboy

  • @jowaynejdfcornwall1766
    @jowaynejdfcornwall1766 2 дні тому +1

    The hurt business

  • @charlieluque1262
    @charlieluque1262 2 години тому

    then you have the idiots who scream "Just Bleed"
    they want to see an octagon death for sure.

  • @slyBR1
    @slyBR1 2 дні тому +1

    Love you Shane… but you chose the job !

  • @GeneTickles
    @GeneTickles 2 дні тому +4

    Are the training camps and gyms paying them any money? How about the organizations they participated in before and after the UFC?

    • @AlienPsychoPacifist
      @AlienPsychoPacifist 18 годин тому

      UFC has all these wannabe lawyers backing them up online for free, now that's good business

  • @DanielWilson-k2d
    @DanielWilson-k2d День тому +1

    Ok, but relative to a Palestinian family being literally blown up...

  • @CollectorsFix
    @CollectorsFix 2 дні тому

    I used to enjoy watching slap fights when it was a bunch of amateurs, but now that it’s all heavy hitters I think it’s just stupid to let someone basically punch you directly on the chin. Those guys are gonna suffer in the future and for very little money.

  • @steve12121
    @steve12121 2 дні тому

    You know the risks going into it though, its professional fighting of course there is a big chance your going to get CTE.

  • @Boxer
    @Boxer День тому

    Not sure what grounds these claims stand on.

  • @AntonioAugusto1010
    @AntonioAugusto1010 2 дні тому

    Shouldn't have signed up for fighting
    Also
    F Dana

  • @larryhernandez76
    @larryhernandez76 День тому

    When the announcers make more than fighters 🧐 something is wrong 🥴

  • @amauta5
    @amauta5 День тому +1

    I mean, they target UFC because they got the pockets. How about the previous orgs?

    • @GWFHegel-ms7gz
      @GWFHegel-ms7gz День тому

      How can you target organizations that don't exist anymore, most of which were bought by the UFC?
      Do you think before you comment?

    • @amauta5
      @amauta5 День тому

      @@GWFHegel-ms7gz that’s the point. UFC picks up the blame for any others

    • @GWFHegel-ms7gz
      @GWFHegel-ms7gz День тому

      @@amauta5 Yeah, when you own the others, you are responsible for them. Meanwhile they aren't responsible for other promotions they don't own. Are you slow?

  • @jamesmelissawhite4807
    @jamesmelissawhite4807 2 дні тому +3

    That's really sad. But the ufc didn't hold a gun to their head and force these people to fight they made that decision themselves. They could have chosen a different path, but they didn't. Now, they are facing the consequences for those bad decisions and trying to shift the blame on the ufc. They are just as responsible for their injuries as the ufc.

    • @AlienPsychoPacifist
      @AlienPsychoPacifist 18 годин тому

      UFC can spare the pay. If we always obeyed our contracts as immutable, we would still have children working in mines

  • @ahighshowdownthrowdown6128
    @ahighshowdownthrowdown6128 2 дні тому

    Fighting is like the military. A meat grinder.

  • @Tom-c5m7g
    @Tom-c5m7g 2 дні тому +2

    All the best to them. I heard shroomies can help

  • @rumba6110
    @rumba6110 2 дні тому

    Brendan Schaub talks all the time about the way these guys would kick each other's asses DURING TRAINING. They should be suing their trainers and gyms and sparring partners if that's the case

  • @CraigEmpson
    @CraigEmpson 2 дні тому +14

    I signed a contract to fight, fought and got the expected injuries, now I’m gonna be a greedy goose and try and sue my former employer.

    • @BTRshow
      @BTRshow 2 дні тому +9

      When you signed the contract, the ufc then signs with reebok, making you lose all your sponsors while forcing you to stay in your contract with 4 fights left. You went from a 75k-130k flat fighter to 15k/15 split. They had no control of their sponsor, who they fought, what weight they fight in, where they fight, and how they fought (boring fighters actually got cut back then). They sued because the ufc abused their power and took away the fighters only big revenue. Only issue with the lawsuit is they only want money, they don't want to change the sport to be unionized.

    • @CraigEmpson
      @CraigEmpson 2 дні тому +1

      @@BTRshow So is this whole lawsuit purely from people who lost sponsorship money through the reebok deal? I very much doubt it, UFC is mega rich company so people are jumping on the bandwagon and trying to steal a slice of this lawsuit for themselves. If they were promised healthcare for life but then not been given it, that would be a different story.

    • @ryanb9305
      @ryanb9305 2 дні тому

      @@CraigEmpson I bet you love the taste of dana whites boot 😂

    • @BTRshow
      @BTRshow 2 дні тому +1

      ​@@CraigEmpson the lawsuit is the ufc breaching their on contracts to rip away sponsors and privileges from fighters for their own financial gain 😂 with no consent or notice to the fighters. Then forcefully locking those fighters to crappy contracts for years later while profiting off of the sponsors that was stolen from them 😂 you don't have any clue what you're talking about and just siding with the corporation. If this was a dud case of people wanting money, then why would the ufc settle and not counter sue? 😂 be fr man

  • @nickr.t.7003
    @nickr.t.7003 2 дні тому

    This is soooo fvcking tragic

  • @ADro-sd7lc
    @ADro-sd7lc 19 годин тому

    This is crazy

  • @fernandorojo6207
    @fernandorojo6207 2 дні тому +4

    So you take a job that you know could potentially damage your body and brain. And now you want to act like you never knew the consequences. 🤔

    • @carritohmc
      @carritohmc 2 дні тому +3

      As I stated in an earlier comment, lawsuit is about UFC violating antitrust law, they could've been gardeners, would not have made a difference, the CTE stuff was likely added as a way to highlight the risks and impacts. The video might make it seem like it's about CTE, but it's not.

    • @BTRshow
      @BTRshow 2 дні тому +3

      Fighters in 2010 who signed 10+ fight deals didn't know that in 2014 they were gonna lose all their sponsors and become a $15k/$15k fighter overnight. You don't know what you're talking about at all 😅

  • @joesmith5159
    @joesmith5159 2 дні тому +12

    thats what they signed up for though
    they risk their bodies in fighting
    why should they win anything

    • @HarryLouSassole
      @HarryLouSassole 2 дні тому +10

      🤓☝️

    • @BTRshow
      @BTRshow 2 дні тому +5

      So all dangerous jobs should pay poorly and give no life/retirement coverage because they're dangerous? 😂 that boot must taste earthy

    • @joesmith5159
      @joesmith5159 2 дні тому

      @@BTRshow are they low paying
      low paying and not guaranteeing getting rich are 2 different things
      btw you should be mad at the fertitas
      they hit and ran not caring about the fighters when they could have kept the ufc made money and paid the fighters at the same time yet no one is mad at them it seems
      they were the problem

    • @BTRshow
      @BTRshow 2 дні тому +1

      ​@@joesmith5159 the fertitas were in charge of the ufc when they signed away everyone's rights to sponsors. The ufc and wme doubled down and signed a new deal with venom with even more sponsors only for the ufc. Both heads wrongfully took away fighter sponsors by signing greedy deals. The promotion is being sued because they capitalized on the ability to just strip fighters of their sponsor money. You don't know what you're talking about 😅

  • @shmk1
    @shmk1 2 дні тому

    They should be paid more and be taken care of post career but to sound surprised they were sustaining brain damage … come on.