This Is HORRIBLE
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- Опубліковано 9 жов 2024
- New UFC antitrust settlement news with some sad fighter declarations from Shane Carwin, Wanderlei Silva, and Spencer Fisher. They all have CTE and/or TBI.
If the new settlement is approved, the UFC put the $375 million in a settlement fund and payments will be made in three installments. $125 million paid within three days of the court's preliminary approval, the next by $125 million upon final approval, and the last $125 million by June 30th of next year.
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I remember that Shane had a job in mechanical engineering, and the UFC wanted him to quit his job. He said no because that job included health insurance for him ans his family
@hulkman245 wow that's great to hear!
Does the health insurance is valid if Carwin was a fighter?
@@crazypato3752 there are too many variables. For all we know, Carwin could have been doing headbutt contests with his neighbour in his spare time.
@@mamster233 but I wonder wether his enginering job respects his health care right when he was also an active pro MMA fighter
@@hulkman245 water treatment plant
Meanwhile Dana given millions to influencers you're trash Dana
You're about to make the ufc bootlickers cry 😂
Spot on, that clown is nefarious.
Im not aware of what you are saying, can you elobarate ?
Health care, especially mental health care is liberal communism!!!!
d dump and the gop
Dana wife beater White gambles with more than that in a weekend.
Conor should sue the UFC. He has all the symptoms
but also all the money, sooo...
(And the coke adds to it)
Major chunk made outside UFC
Promotion and brand endorsement
Sale of whiskey brand
Movie
🥊 Boxing
He’s been tkod one time, if he has CTE it’s from training, in reality he’s just a junkie
@@uuuuu9313 wow, what a fangirl response 🤣
You need to call it... I can't call it for you.
They lived by the sword but they should not die by the sword. All past fighters should at least have medical coverage for the rest of their lives.
Lol.... You probably think social security is a good idea too, huh?
@@runman85why isn't it?
NFL couldn’t get lifetime health insurance. Stop it.
brandynmancinas8346 8t's too much to expect the UFC to provide healthcare forever for every fighter..
That's not fair tho. Imagine how bs it would be if you could sign up for the UFC, fight once and they have to pay you for the rest of your life.
Man Silva got that from training at his own gym, those guys use to KO eachother for sport 😂
Ok still part of it tho?
Rampage: Enters the room
@@DarkPsyde721 doesn't really help when he's fighting chael randomly outta the cage
Exactly I’ve seen some chutebox videos during the pride era and they were fucking savages.
Doctors: Heavy, repeated blows to the head can cause traumatic brain injuries that have symptons which get progressively worse over time.
Dana: That's not necessarily true.
Dana: Powerslap!!
Dana denied that PowerSlap causes concussions in a press conference a couple days ago
@@Shifytee123 Also Dana: Health insurance!? what? That's for people like Ariel Helwani. Now sign the damn contract!
Dana has always laughed this off as, "Brain damage comes with the job." Yet he's against a fighters' union. Dude's a bald Vince McMahon.
I can see the Slap league slappers saying the same thing in a few years.
*months
@@wrestler-kickboxer2524 remember when Dana would get mad at the UFC refs for not stopping the fights early because he was concern for their brain damage and safety? 🤣🤣🤣
One of the biggest jokes of all time 🤪 the slap 👋 league is just plan stupid 🥴🤪🥴
mood swings, addiction, depression, anxiety, irritability, sleep problems, fear... wow sounds like over half the people in the western world suffer from TBI/CTE!
@bidenonabender5903 that's true as well. These guys MIGHT just be getting older... Carwin literally fought twice since 2010... Wanderlei was much younger in PRIDE as well. You can't expect to be at your mental peak forever.
@@mamster233 and let's not forget a lot of gyms like Chute Boxe Academy where wanderlei, shogun and charles olives are from are well known to go really hard in training, no head gear, full power punches, wanderlei got KOed more often just in sparring than most MMA fighters get KOed over their entire carrer.
heck wanderlei got KOed by crazy horse/felony bennett backstage and still walked out to fight the same evening...
Crazy, cus I think of Carwin as causing CTE, not receiving it. Fighters should be paid more, but how many of those concussions were delivered in training? Wanderlei is the last guy you want speaking for it because the gym wars he had are insane. He KO'd Shogun at Chute Boxe for a dog if I remember correctly.
a dog??
I mean...you kinda have to train to be able tom compete in the UFC so it's still kind of treading that line.
If they were getting paid what they're worth then maybe they would've been able to retire earlier and avoid further injury...ever stop to think about that?
@hotbutterypopcorn9652 I agree, but in a legal sense these dudes could have ended up at Pride, Bellator, Strikeforce, or even nowhere. Many a fighters have left UFC, went to Bellator, only to get KOd repeatedly n beaten worse than they ever did in the UFC. So where's Bellators part to pay?
If I spend 2 years at Man City n had a few minor injuries, n then 6 years at Arsenal n had more injuries, and my worst injuries were before I played for a team... why should Man City foot the bill.
Fighters need to be paid more, fact. But Bellator/PFL probably sweating right now, because they were in the business of getting washed up guys with names KO'd.
Training should be covered too because it’s covered in all real sports organizations.
@MMAMonke it is not a team based sport. It's not like you have these NFL teams which are multibillion dollar franchises. With your logic Interscope record should pay for people's piano and singing lessons, just in case they sign them down the line.
Also, the fighter has the freedom to train wherever they wish. They could join a gym n be like "YEAH ITS 500K A YEAR TO TRAIN THERE, HERES THE BILL UFC"
WTF 🤣
Silva didn't think about that when he was soccer kicking people in the head in Pride. LOL
He was trying to earn his money tho
@@Threelegs94 He really did too. He was one of my all time favorites.
LOL? really? what about this is funny to you?
Wanderlei is like dude i have a whole different face now thats all.
I pray that every single one of them can find peace after this 🙏🏾😭
The settlement changed my bum life
I know it sounds cold. But if you're deeply concerned about CTE and the health of cage fighters, you probably shouldn't be a fan of any type of prize fighting. You should advocate for the abolition of those sports. Furthermore, it isn't a job at the mill. It is a chance for gold and glory, like something from the middle ages. You don't sign up as a fighter and get a pension and health insurance. Just like an individual fight, you either win or lose at a fight career. You made it big, became a star, got rich, or you didn't. Why any of you think this is like going to work as a government employee I don't understand.
NFL, NBA, and NHL gives out retirement/life coverage and those are dangerous sports. The UFC and MMA should pay fighters poorly and give no Covereage because it's dangerous? 😂 should linemen who fix power poles not get coverage because it's an absurdly dangerous job? That boot you're looking must taste earthy 😂
Exactly this. Nobody is forcing the fighters to do something they don't want and I am pretty sure everybody knows the possible outcome of pursuing physical violence as a way to make a living. Haven't you see how everybody aspires to be in the UFC? I am a big fan but at the end it is all business and it works for some and not so much for others...sadly.
I agree with most of what you're saying. That said this amount of money is nothing to the UFC. I don't even complain about fighter pay either. If you pay them too much they'll stop fighting, but if they're done fighting and need to pay medical bills that's different.
This is prolly the most important video u have done. Thanks for trying to makes these amazing athletes lives better.
Settlement
1. Pay the past casualties
2. Settle to destroy the issue now
3. Don't change the contracts where top fighters gets crippled
Mma fighters are such cowards that they will NEVER unionize, so the ufc will get away with this. Nothing will change besides PPV prices going up 😂
@@BTRshow they're not cowards you're the coward, they're just selfish because of how the competition is structured
@@BTRshow Unions would ruin the sport. People fight to be the best, not because they want to help others.
@BRAINFxck10 they're scared of messing up their 20k/20k deals by joining a union and getting more money. They're cowards and dumb to boot. Just also great to watch. Cry about it
@heavyartillery-qm5hu unions makes the sport legitimate and sustainable for athletes. Fighters having right to health coverage, life insurance, retirement/401k, and a 40/60 minimum revenue split wouldnt ruin the sport. PFL, bellator, and one already have decent splits. Boxing is unionized and we saw usyk vs AJ, Usyk vs Fury, Crawford vs Spence, Davis vs Garcia, Serrano vs Taylor, Garcia vs Haney, Floyd vs Canelo. Bivol vs Beterbiev is happening. The best will fight the best if they want to fight.
Shane Carwin gets forgotten in the history books. He was an undeniable legend, one of the biggest names at the time he was competing.
Wanderley Silva is a Multi millionare, what life changing money he is talking about? This is a generic lawyer writing. I seriously think that the guys who will receive most are pushing for the settlement to get a new car or something, and hurting people who actually need more money from the agreement.
The Fertitas literally structured the UFC after the WWE. This isn’t a real sports organization. This is literally WWE but with real fighting
I personally believe Carwin's punches carried the scariest amount of power behind them, even more so than Ngannou.
I mean “blunt force” trauma to the head…why did they sign those contracts? Don’t get me wrong it sucks but there was a conscious decision to fight n put your body through this.
Guys in 2010 didn't think their sponsors would be taken away in 2014 after signing a ridiculous 8-12 fight deal. Before 2014, being a ufc fighter paid very well because sponsor money.
🤦♂️
That's not what the lawsuit is about numbskull, it's about the UFC suppressing fighter pay, the medical bills just highlight the problem
This has already been argued in court in so many other compensation cases and the jist of it is, if every company could just say you knew the risk, then there's no such thing as liability to anything, in any capacity whatsoever. Companies have a responsibility to protect their workers and are beholden to the Occupational Safety and Health Act of 1970. UFC doesn't get special treatment and is inexplicably just not beholden to the law while every other company is.
This is insane honestly the fact that no one is even asking about this in any press conference for the ufc. I honestly might stop watching MMA.
I fully agrer with fighters being underpaid... But these fighters knew when they decided this career path that they would be getting kicked, punched, kneed, elbowed etc in the HEAD! What did you expect.. Come on guys!!
finally someone making sense.
I think they expected to be treated like the other major sports athletes when it comes to contracts and health insurance. Unfortunately mma is not even 35 years old yet. I’m sure players were getting shafted just the same as when the nfl was just 35 years old
Those other sports leagues didn't just hand down players unions because of enlightenment. The players fought for it. So, fighters are fighting for it here.
Devil's advocate here: " I am a victim of TBI in MMA. Which I of course received SPECIFICALLY and ONLY in the UFC. A sport I willingly, actively and vehemently pursued knowing the consequences. (generic list of symptoms - depression, mood swings and irritability) So anyway, pay me UFC. Oh and I'd like the funds now if you don't mind, not later. "
The Fertitta brothers are laughing all the way back around to the bank right now. lol. Boy did they ever sell at the right time; and bought at the right time. Bought it for only 2 million and sold most for 4 billion, then sold the rest a year later. "The Fertitta brothers sold the UFC for an estimated $4 billion in July 2016 to WME-IMG, along with private equity firms Silver Lake Partners and Kohlberg Kravis Roberts (KKR). The brothers, Lorenzo and Frank, had purchased the UFC in 2001 for $2 million.
The Fertitta brothers sold their remaining stakes in the UFC in August 2017 for $5 billion. The sale was at the time considered the largest deal in professional sports history, but has since been surpassed by the $8 billion sale of Formula One."
Stout vs Fisher on spike tv was a banger, one of the first mma fights I ever remember watching. Sad to see what fisher is going through.
I have never been more glad that I gave up my fighting career to pursue and normal one
That was super dark and depressing but I needed to hear it. Dana White is a fucking monster.
This is ridiculous... These fighters get TBI & CTE from fighting each other, so they should sue each other instead of UFC.
And these fighters also fights in other organizations, not just UFC. And some fighters do hard sparring, the causes is plenty.
Truly sad to hear this. At the same time all the fighters know what they are and are not getting with benefits. Believe me, they deserve it all but until UFC changes then it's a decision the fighters need to decide of this path is worth it or not 🙏
I do belive all of those fighters have cte an other injuries, but I also believe a lot of it happened during training, old school fighters just went at it like there was no tomorrow in the gym, tomorrow has come, I hope they get that money, and all of Health insurance and best practices gets sorted out for the current and upcoming guys, I love mma, but it destroys everybody, nobody walks away unscathed, mma takes its pound of flesh every time
"Do you wanna be a f***in' fighter?!"
Dana White
Boxing has a few hundred years history of fighters who end up punch drunk(CTE). MMA in the public eyes is around 31yrs old so unfortunately we are going to see more stories like these pop up. It’s hard being a fan sometimes knowing this is could be the future for most fighters.
@bigman6781 society has been aware of brain damage since the 70's when Ali retired. It's not something new
@@mamster233 since before that. 1928 was the first time it was observed for boxing. Mma is relatively young and it was always touted as being safer than boxing so we’re definitely bound to see more fighters going through this.
Nobody put a gun to their head, they clearly want money. Carwin saying he's an addict, then "HE need the money NOW" is crazy.. He'd probably OD being an addict with that kind of money.. I don't agree with this. These guys are adults who chose to fight and sign a contract, knew what they were getting into and have had a bunch of fights outside the UFC too.. So how is this UFC fault? Most of these guys have had fights and been KO'd a bunch outside the UFC. Just a bunch of cans who want free money... Remember when this was about "Changing the sport", now it's "I NEED MONEY NOW".. lol
I couldn't agree with you more... These guys knew that they were gonna get punched in the face for a living. This is definitely a money grab
When Dana asks: "Do you wanna be a f***in' fighter?!" Just say no
The UFC completely bought out their competition and kept fighter pay artificially low due to the lack of competition/ other organizations. Regardless, whether you’re a complete free market person or a socialist the one thing they have in common is that government should intervene to break up and fine monopolies just like their doing now.
@@PeterFeltersnatch852 yes and this all started to change the sport, to get the "Muhammad Ali act" in MMA so fighters get paid more, and get insurance. Then UFC threw out some money for a settlement and they ALL immediately jumped on it. They accepted to settle but the JUDGE turned it down because he said this was about changing the sport not money, but all the guys just see dollar signs now.. It's kind of pathetic too they're all adults blaming UFC for their decisions.. Most of them STILL got paid more then a 2-3 year salary each fight. And we're suppose to feel sorry for them? I'd get KO'd by Carwin right now for how much money he got paid in the Lesnar fight... This thing is silly.
@@JD-df3zl Carwin got more money in that 1 Lesnar fight then most of us will get working full time for 10 years.. And he got almost just as much when he KO'd Mir and won the interm belt.. Just cuz he's an addict and wasted it all on drugs doesn't mean the UFC owe him anything..
You accept the consequences when you agree to fight in MMA for a living. Nobody forced them to fight.
So if you get hot oil spilled on you at the burger joint you work at, you aren't entitled to compensation?
mmadigest for life
The thumbs down to thumbs up ratio on this video is crazy! Don't shoot the messenger, guys (and gals). MMA Digest is just reporting on the news, not making it!
These cats are complaining that they got hit and hurt while fighting voluntarily hahha
aye ok then 😂😂😂
So they get 3 easy payments of $200 each?
Carwin was working a regular job so he could obtain insurance at a water treatment plant
I'm struggling, I'm struggling and my wife deserves better and i have little money but yeah we just had our fourth child
It's almost as if fighting in dangerous... The UFC can easily afford health insurance though
You knew wtf you signed up for!
I miss mmadigest 1min videos, 199club, Mir head bumping, wanderlai Silva "job job". I guess the UA-cam algorithm won
Why does mmadigest wanting to make more money with longer videos bother you so much? You get upset about mma on point, itpmma, and theweasle not having 1 minute videos too? Don't let your attention span and nostalgia goggles make you dislike quality content. Not even trolls like lucastracy and mma guru make short content 😂 all big dogs make long content and mmadigest is a big dog
Job is job
I hear lots of complaining for short-term money, but wasn't the settlement refused by the judge because it was too low and unfair for current/future fighters because it didn't stipulate changes in the contracts?
So then, wouldn't it be better for these guys to tough it out so that many more fighters won't have to go through what they are going through now?
Dana’s feelings don’t care about the facts. ❄️
i get it if it's American or Australian football / soccer but a sport where you're trying to punch somebody in the face? If these guys had early stoppages they would of been crying 'let me bang bro'. This wasn't an accident. They knew the risks and knew it was greater than other sports. They could of declined and started their own fighter league and done things differently. They chose not to and chose to fight and chose to bang
You know CTE wasn’t commonly known back when Shane Carwin was fighting right? Also, how would you expect them to just get up and start their own fight league, shit costs millions and they get paid peanuts. May need to get your own head checked out dude
So you're saying the UFC should get special treatment and shouldn't be beholden to the Occupational Safety Act of 1970 while every other company is. Gotcha. Also this argument has been smacked down so many times it's ridiculous and laughable. All jobs have occupational hazards, if every job could just say welp! Sorry that leg got sliced off by our equipment, not our problem, also you're fired and better luck at your next company! Then why have any workplace safety laws at all or any regulations for anything at all. You see how ludicrous you sound. Ok then.
@RedceLL1978 but it's not a traditional "job", right? Aren't the fighters some sort of paid contractors? They're not traditionally employed by the UFC, they only perform a few times per year
Seems people in the comments aren't understanding: the lawsuit is about antitrust laws, saying someone knew the risks is NOT a legal defense, because it's about abusing the market, competition, etc. the issue is NOT that "they knew the risks and signed the contract" but rather, the UFC "allegedly" violated antitrust laws so they were the only buyer in town for the fighters' services, the term for this is monopsony. The CTE was likely brought up in court to highlight impacts of the alleged practices.
Fighters in 2010 who signed 10+ fight contracts didn't know their sponsors were gonna be taken away in 2014. Many guys went from making over $100k a fight to going on a $15k/$15k split almost overnight. They already don't have health coverage, and retirement/401k.
These guys also go under a lot of general anesthesia during their careers. Knees, hips, foot, eye, elbow, etc. probably 5-10 times in a short few years. UFC won’t let them fight after a knockout for a few months but they still go and get surgery with anesthesia so they can heal during their suspension. This gotta add to it.
Wonder-lay soccer kick silva needs to see sit all the way back in his seat
Carwin was known to go hard in camps, I think that's where he probably accumulated the majority of his conditions.
Wait til the power slappers file a lawsuit
Wanderlei suffered all that agony in Pride mostly. Nose surgery was a choice after it was Pride smashed.
All employment comes with sacrafice.
Who would have thought choosing a sport that requires taking punches and kicks to the head would cause brain trauma. If only they knew of the risk before doing such a risky sport 🙄
Who would of thought that having a business where your athletes get brain damage would cause you to pay for their medical and life changing damages.
Boxers and nfl players also go through brain trauma. The difference is boxing and NFL pays you enough to make it worth it. Dangerous jobs are suppose to pay well. Ufc and mma is the most dangerous sport with the literal worst pay now sponsors are gone. No 401k/retiremet, no medical coverage outside of the cage, family/friends don't get covered in travel expenses, no life insurance, and now no sponsors. Being locked into a contract with sponsors was worth it. They got their sponsors taken away and couldn't leave their contracts. That's why they sued. Don't see how you guys paint the ufc as Saints Academy but Dana has a cult following him 😂 so I'm not surprised
@@Gobando NFL players don’t get lifetime health insurance. Plus fighters are independent contractors, so lifetime health insurance isn’t possible.
Tonight Dana is gonnna be placing $250k blackjack bets. These guys don’t understand, fighting for the ufc is an opportunity.
Thank Dana for the opportunity and move on!
Fuck me he was one of the most level headed fighters we have ever seen.. He got hurt in the gonzaga fight and took a beating against junior dos santos but when you compare that to somebody like Alistair Overeem its only a tiny fraction.. I guess it doesn't take much in some peoples cases
Somehow Overeem is doing just fine CTE-wise.
Shane Carwin has CTE?, he had that undefeated run finishing opponents on the very first round without taking damage…he lost to Brock and JDS but that’s about it.
He took a lot of punches from JDS in their fight
I guess you forget what his face look like when he fought Brock Lesnar
Why even fight. It’s not worth unless you are Mcgregor
2:53 that’s what happens when you fight guys in the UFC and not pride😂
That background music playing was torturous.
poor guys forced into cage fighting
The ufc isn't forced into having a business that causes athletes brain damage but they still in that business so is only fair for them to pay for it.
They could look like you. Id say their lucky.
@@Gobando the real crime is calling powerslap a sport & having cte from that.
@@Gobandoclam down, commie.
No one is forcing you to work at the gay bar down the street. However, if you got hurt at said job, I’m sure you would want to make sure your medical expenses are taken care of. Wouldn’t you?
I dont feel bad for them, they knew the risks
Okay but Wanderlei and Carwin probably got most of their damage from training. Everybody knows Wanderlei’s camp are notorious for KOing each other and Schaub used to say him and Carwin would try to knock each other out all the time in sparring. I get that they should absolutely get paid but some of it is on them due to not training properly.
Fighting can cause significant and permanent damage? Who knew? Hopefully the money helps some of these poor dudes.
I hope the UFC personally takes cares of Shane, forget about the lawsuit or whatever other political situation
It sucks but you knew what you were signing...it states all that in writing, the hurt business is tough
Shane Carwin was only ever hit clean in 2 UFC fights. JDS and Mir & Brock barely touched him, Gonzaga hit his legs, and his total fight time is just under 30 minutes in 6 fights. Only his 2 losses went past 1 round. Only the JDS fight went the distance his average fight time is 2 minutes 40 seconds. So most of his damage came from MMA training, college football and wrestling most likely. I’m not down playing it in any way but when your MMA career is only 14 fights with 12 being first round stoppages in Under 2 minutes then it’s not very likely that your 6 fights in the UFC would even come close to the damage you suffered in 1 football game. When Carwin went into his title fight with Brock he only had 16 minutes total fight time in 12 fights. Let that sink in. That’s an average of 1 minute 20 seconds per fight. The Brock fight was Shane hitting Brock until he gassed and Brock secured a head & arm in round 2. The JDS fight was the only fight Shane ever had that he met any resistance what so ever. So it sad that you can basically have 1 fight where you get hit and it gives you CTE
As a fighter aren’t you aware of the potential danger and consequences of your craft? I think some kind of retirement plan for fighters who have X amount of years would be awesome.
At the end of the day, these grown men signed a contract to be paid what they got paid. Theyre lucky to get what they’re getting
Lucky they kept Michael Bisping on in other roles, or he would have been signing it all as well.
Who could have guessed getting starched would lead to permanent damage?
This is why GSP walked away
And I guarantee all these statements wasn't their own but from their lawyers smh all their statements have similar if not identical "key point statements" and Silva shouldn't even be in this that dude did that to himself more in training and in pride than the UFC
They have years of medical records to back up their claims you silly tw!t
those slap contracts better be bullet proof
Couldn't wrestlers be doing the same thing to WWE?
After he beat Gonzaga I remember one of Shane's coaches in a interview talked about how Shane would just take hits in sparring because they didn't hurt him and he would not feel the punches. A lot of fighters want to blame the UFC for their CTE but take no accountably for their training methods and the fights they had before or after their UFC run. Carwin had 6 fights in the UFC over the course of 4 years and has not been involved with the company in over 13 years.
I'm sure his health issues is "accountability" enough. He was also training for the UFC, not for a side hustle. The UFC can afford this
@@AlienPsychoPacifist his health issues is a consequence of the career he chose and the training methods he used. It's not like you can only get brain damage in the UFC. he chose to be a professional athlete. Surprise surprise its really taxing on your body. Boxers, wrestlers, football players and other athletes risk dealing with injuries they sustained during their career even long after they retire. He chose to just trade punches in gym wars instead of sparring light and using proper defense. Now that his actions and choices are catching up to him, he wants a company he only fought for 4 years and has not been working with in nearly 13 years now to pay for all his problems. 0 accountability.
@@malpal5825 you can say the same about soldiers choosing to sacrifice their bodies and mental health: they get what they signed up for. Just let everyone suffer for all their choices, no worker protection, no safety net, beg on the streets for your choices. ...Or, we could pay for health expenses and Iive in a more civil society. Are fighters the top priority in society? No, but in this case the UFC can afford it, why not ease a bit of suffering rather than treating people as mere commodities to use and discard. You seem to think a bit of compassion for some will steal compassion from others. I think a lack of compassion for some normalizes lack of compassion for everyone else.
@@AlienPsychoPacifist imagine every fighter who fought for the UFC for a couple of years got a lifetime pass to the UFC's wallet to pay their health expenses. Shane fought more times outside of the UFC than in it, and has not fought there since 2011. As soon as their a chance to make some money though, here he is blaming them for his health. You are free to think what you want though. Peace.
@@malpal5825 it's sad how you are more concerned about a company that shares much less of its revenue with its workers (pay and coverage) than other sports leagues. Like, is your dream to be the next Dana White? Why do you want to discipline the fighter so much? Weird.
This is what i think happen to Benoit. Cte and tbi over time
Same with Cowboy
The hurt business
then you have the idiots who scream "Just Bleed"
they want to see an octagon death for sure.
Love you Shane… but you chose the job !
Are the training camps and gyms paying them any money? How about the organizations they participated in before and after the UFC?
UFC has all these wannabe lawyers backing them up online for free, now that's good business
Ok, but relative to a Palestinian family being literally blown up...
Good news?
I used to enjoy watching slap fights when it was a bunch of amateurs, but now that it’s all heavy hitters I think it’s just stupid to let someone basically punch you directly on the chin. Those guys are gonna suffer in the future and for very little money.
You know the risks going into it though, its professional fighting of course there is a big chance your going to get CTE.
Not sure what grounds these claims stand on.
Shouldn't have signed up for fighting
Also
F Dana
When the announcers make more than fighters 🧐 something is wrong 🥴
I mean, they target UFC because they got the pockets. How about the previous orgs?
How can you target organizations that don't exist anymore, most of which were bought by the UFC?
Do you think before you comment?
@@GWFHegel-ms7gz that’s the point. UFC picks up the blame for any others
@@amauta5 Yeah, when you own the others, you are responsible for them. Meanwhile they aren't responsible for other promotions they don't own. Are you slow?
That's really sad. But the ufc didn't hold a gun to their head and force these people to fight they made that decision themselves. They could have chosen a different path, but they didn't. Now, they are facing the consequences for those bad decisions and trying to shift the blame on the ufc. They are just as responsible for their injuries as the ufc.
UFC can spare the pay. If we always obeyed our contracts as immutable, we would still have children working in mines
Fighting is like the military. A meat grinder.
All the best to them. I heard shroomies can help
Brendan Schaub talks all the time about the way these guys would kick each other's asses DURING TRAINING. They should be suing their trainers and gyms and sparring partners if that's the case
I signed a contract to fight, fought and got the expected injuries, now I’m gonna be a greedy goose and try and sue my former employer.
When you signed the contract, the ufc then signs with reebok, making you lose all your sponsors while forcing you to stay in your contract with 4 fights left. You went from a 75k-130k flat fighter to 15k/15 split. They had no control of their sponsor, who they fought, what weight they fight in, where they fight, and how they fought (boring fighters actually got cut back then). They sued because the ufc abused their power and took away the fighters only big revenue. Only issue with the lawsuit is they only want money, they don't want to change the sport to be unionized.
@@BTRshow So is this whole lawsuit purely from people who lost sponsorship money through the reebok deal? I very much doubt it, UFC is mega rich company so people are jumping on the bandwagon and trying to steal a slice of this lawsuit for themselves. If they were promised healthcare for life but then not been given it, that would be a different story.
@@CraigEmpson I bet you love the taste of dana whites boot 😂
@@CraigEmpson the lawsuit is the ufc breaching their on contracts to rip away sponsors and privileges from fighters for their own financial gain 😂 with no consent or notice to the fighters. Then forcefully locking those fighters to crappy contracts for years later while profiting off of the sponsors that was stolen from them 😂 you don't have any clue what you're talking about and just siding with the corporation. If this was a dud case of people wanting money, then why would the ufc settle and not counter sue? 😂 be fr man
This is soooo fvcking tragic
This is crazy
So you take a job that you know could potentially damage your body and brain. And now you want to act like you never knew the consequences. 🤔
As I stated in an earlier comment, lawsuit is about UFC violating antitrust law, they could've been gardeners, would not have made a difference, the CTE stuff was likely added as a way to highlight the risks and impacts. The video might make it seem like it's about CTE, but it's not.
Fighters in 2010 who signed 10+ fight deals didn't know that in 2014 they were gonna lose all their sponsors and become a $15k/$15k fighter overnight. You don't know what you're talking about at all 😅
thats what they signed up for though
they risk their bodies in fighting
why should they win anything
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So all dangerous jobs should pay poorly and give no life/retirement coverage because they're dangerous? 😂 that boot must taste earthy
@@BTRshow are they low paying
low paying and not guaranteeing getting rich are 2 different things
btw you should be mad at the fertitas
they hit and ran not caring about the fighters when they could have kept the ufc made money and paid the fighters at the same time yet no one is mad at them it seems
they were the problem
@@joesmith5159 the fertitas were in charge of the ufc when they signed away everyone's rights to sponsors. The ufc and wme doubled down and signed a new deal with venom with even more sponsors only for the ufc. Both heads wrongfully took away fighter sponsors by signing greedy deals. The promotion is being sued because they capitalized on the ability to just strip fighters of their sponsor money. You don't know what you're talking about 😅
They should be paid more and be taken care of post career but to sound surprised they were sustaining brain damage … come on.