2020 tundra transmission cooler upgrade
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- Опубліковано 21 чер 2020
- 2019 and 2020 Tundras with the tow package option no longer have the cooler lines up to the condenser anymore. I put the Toyota parts on and installed the cooler.
Parts:
Toyota: 32970-34030 Thermostat Unit
Amazon: Hayden 689 Rapid Cool Plate and Fin Transmission Cooler
Amazon: 3/8" ID Derale Transmission/Engine Oil Hose
Scan Gauge codes:
Transmission Temperature 1 - pan
TXD: 07E02182
RXF: 046105820000
RXD: 2808
MTH: 00090005FFD8
NAM: TF1
Transmission Temperature 2 - Torque Converter output
TXD: 07E02182
RXF: 046105820000
RXD: 3808
MTH: 00090005FFD8
NAM: TF2
Thank you very much for sharing the knowledge and taking the time to post.
I just installed this on Sequoia 2020 . I went with a B&M cooler , for no specific reason, but the rest is identical. I am waiting for the Scangauge to be delivered tomorrow and hopefully the codes that you posted are going to work.
I have a 2016 GX460 that I installed an additional cooler after the oem one that is on top of the condenser. I never touch the thermostat.
I have also a 2010 Tundra that has only the oem cooler on top of the condenser but the thermostat is pined all the time.
Both trucks are been driven very much the same way.
At 75k miles, I asked the dealer to drop the fluid from the pan only and I witness the flush on both. They both dropped about 4,5 quarts.
The Tundra that has the Thermostat open all the times has the oil like new.
The GX oil looks like it had 300 k's, very dark. I decided to ask the dealer drop the pan few more times till will turn into a better color.
The dealer had no explanation why such difference in oil color when both of these trucks are driven very similarly.
I learn and see it with my own eyes that the pined thermostat makes a difference.
Please ignore the "Engineer know it all " comments and please share with us any other mods.
Thank you again.
You're a hero for posting this my dude...
Thanks for the video, I am needing to do this on my 2019. It doesn't make sense why they didn't keep the cooler.
Good video, I still have my 07 5.7 Tundra. I didn't know Toyota stopped putting the cooler in the Tundras.
Did my 2020 today. Put all Factory parts “Use to work for Toyota so I got a deal” except for the external cooler. Runs like a champ. Was getting 215-220 pan temps just cruising along on the freeway. Did fluid exchange at the same time. Leaving it “unpinned”, 188 all the way home. Outside temps 95’ Feel a lot better now. Thanks for the video.
Brother!! Thank you for this video, it helped me a lot. I installed my cooler about a week ago and my trans sits happy at 191.8 now. With NO LOAD it got to 242 in just a 40 min drive before. Oh and with only 12k miles, my ATF was very dark already. Did a fluid drain, fill, dulce, drain, fill too. Thanks again. Subed
Toyota engineers responded to the question of why they chose to remove the trans cooler by saying that in all of their towing test that temps were still within safe operation range. But I would still rather have a cooler as an added benefit to ensure the transmission stays healthy.
The question is why in the world were they out looking to remove something as functional as a trans cooler?!
They lie. That’s why people all over are getting over temp warnings
@@DirtE30 $$$
Likely in sake of EPA and fuel efficiency, hotter fluid is less viscous.
Its a chickenshit answer
THANKS FOR THE VIDEO, I DID IT THE SAME JOB, IN MY 2015 LEXUS GX460 THE HAS NO TRANSMISSION COOLER, NICE VIDEO.
For nearly 50 Grand $$ Toyota should have this on the truck as standard equipment.....period
I believe TOYOTA comes with a new trans oil which can withstand more extreme temperatures and thus avoiding the need for external oil cooler.I watch the same thing in TFL channel as well
@@jasleenkaur3543 For nearly 50 grand per unit the truck should be equipped with a auxiliary tranny cooler, and engine oil cooler, they also stopped offering a locking rear diff......Toyota is making a huge mistake.
@@dennisschmidt975 they do not need more than what they have. There's an integrated heating/cooling system, as well as a wider range of operating specs (advanced synthetic fluid).
No reports of trans failures owing to high temps.
@@PaulSter If I'm paying 50K for a truck? it's going to have a $100 trans cooler already installed or they can shove it up their (__!__)
@@dennisschmidt975 OK Dennis.
Sadly, I suppose Toyota will have to somehow find a way to carry on without your business.
Amsoil signature series ATF. Likely add a remote derale screw on transmission filter as well
Thanks for the informative video. I have a 2020 Land Cruiser with the same 5.7 engine. However, it has the 8-speed transmission and has a trans Cooler mounted in front of the ac condenser - upper right side and calls for ATF WS. I would be concerned about high temp also with out a dedicated cooler.
I ordered the Genuine cooling kit came with everything, PRicey but came with the thermostat,hard toyota lines and two toyota soft lines and cooler and custom bracket..everything top notch a UA-cam video shows the install.I bought this for my new 21 limited . I intend to tow.
You are smart to upgrade to add a cooler
yes, the way I did it is less than half of the price of that guy's kit. That was my main motivation was how to do it for less than that. It is very nice, but 1000 bucks is a lot when it isn't even installed. The custom machined part is stainless and then powder coated...way to expensive and why would you need to powder coat stainless when its already stainless. If he wants to get a bunch of cost down, change that to aluminum.
@@aprecision4013Agree, I basically copied his design, made the bracket with Aluminum, bought my parts and have a very oem looking installation for $500 less than what he charges. This cooler brought so much peace of mind…lol. I was monitoring my temps and getting into 230 driving by myself on my daily conmute…crazy! Now withe cooler it stays 185-190 at the most.
@@DownloaderVideo Did you also keep the pin pulled?
Great video thanks. I would be concerned that the two lines running to the external cooler are not routed through rubber grommets as in the pre 2019 tundras.
This is one of the reasons I bought the Toyota Platinum extended warranty 6 year/125k miles on my 2021.
Great Video! And Super pissed btw that my 2020 TRD Pro with tow package doesn't have the the sticker stated "Trans Cooler" which explains why my 2000 Tundra with cooler never had a problem hauling heavy loads in the heat of summer for 20 years but my brand new truck has already popped the "Transmission heat warning" light. I'll be following what you did with the exception of using the pair of Toyota oem hard lines aka Cooler Pipe 32941-0C030, Inlet Hose
32942-0C040, Outlet Hose 32907-0C020 and two 90080-10400
@ Mark Drabicki where does the 329070c020 go in relation to the 2 ea cooler pipes(too and from cooler) but not sure where 32907-0c020 connects too? I’m puzzled
Thanks for the video. I think common sense tells us that even though TOYOTA engineers are amazing. The bean counters in TOYOTA want transmissions to fail sooner that way people take their vehicles in to the dealers for service. That way the dealer can sell you a new or rebuilt transmission. Dealers don’t make a lot of money in sales. They make more in selling parts and services to people. There’s a video out on UA-cam where a guy is interviewing TOYOTA chief engineer for Tundra, Tacoma, Sequoia, and I believe 4Runner as well? On why TOYOTA has gone away from outfitting trans coolers on their vehicles. Especially the ones with towing capabilities. Chief Toyota engineer responds with the reasoning behind it was weight savings. 🤯 Really? How much weight is saved on a trans cooler, a small length of rubber hose, and maybe 1 more quart of trans fluid? Install an aftermarket trans cooler yourself and buy a scan gauge if you value your investment people! Oh, and when you do your transmission service use only the best World Standard compatible trans fluid. Use Amsoil 100% synthetic. You’ll be amazed at the smooth shifting because it’s a better made oil.
Well bud.
I just did mine last week on my 2020 as well. I was hitting 230° with no trailer. It's now at 190 !!
Funny thing is, I bought the same cooler , lol.
@Michael Flowers I bought my part from Toyota 350$ Canadian and the cooler was 80 dollars Amazon. Took about 1.5 hrs to install.
Easy enough job !!
Did you add any fluid or just install the parts and fun it?
@@ncurc9766 once i had everything mounted. I filled the cooler up with transmission fluid till it was full ( lines as well ). Then connected lines and clamped it all down !
@@nxtgen2b416 sounds good thanks
does it matter which hose is upper or lower on the cooler?
look at the TFL Truck video testing and talking about the new Tundra's removal of the cooler. Toyota engineers are saying that it's no longer needed.
I am well aware...and I completely disagree. Do what you want to do with the info. an 8 minute tow up a grade is not real world towing...100+ degree outside temp. mountain passes with traffic 100s of miles of up and down hills with unlocked TC. All these other videos are just justifying Toyota, not showing how all these people end up with the over temp light coming on.
I am very intrigued by everyone who puts a trans cooler on their newer tundras. I think it can only help and provided you're doing it yourself, it won't hit your pocket too bad. My final decision on this, at least for now, I'm gonna run my 21 platinum CM until the 100k mile toyota warranty runs out and then I'll let the next owner worry about it. If toyota says it's fine, then I'm willing to call their bet and try it for myself. Don't tow a lot, maybe 5 times a month. Have tons of hills and mountains here in PA though.
Read a post over on Facebook that they removed it because of the new air conditioning requirements. The condenser is much bigger.
aha, yes I figured it had something to do with government
if it makes no sense... you know who s behind it
Good job, thanks for the upload, I'm going to do this upgrade as soon as i get my truck back from the dealer. My transmission on my 2019 exploded towing an 8000lb rv over flagstaff. I hope toyota saved alot of money by deleting this cooler because now they are going to replace mine.
Mu '06 Tundra tranny runs around 140 degrees with the factory cooler. Your 150 temp is perfect and will make that tranny live decades.
Hey, thanks for doing this video. I have a 2020 Limited Crewmax and a Lance 2375 travel trailer which weighs about 6800 loaded. The Tundra pulls this trailer no problem, but it's good to know the transmission is running higher temps than the pre-2019 models. Perhaps Toyota is right and 230+ is no problem, but if the earlier trucks performed reliably with the cooler on board, why should anyone tell you that what you did was unnecessary? I don't want to be the guinea pig and have my truck puke the transmission during a summer vacation. I've always believed in preventative maintenance, so I'm going to do the same thing you did, except I will let the thermostat do it's job. Again, thanks for putting this video up.
Hey, I like your strategy. Install it. Let the thermostat do it's work. Did you ever do this? How did it go? Cheers
Great video thank you.
According to toyota , transmissions temperatures of up to 260 degrees are in the normal range. They claim this makes the cooler not required. The fact that I've not heard of a lot of transmission failures leads me to believe they are correct.
maybe....its only been 19, 20 now 21s so it may not be showing up yet due to lower mileage. Roll the dice, I'm the type where I play it safe.
Great video bud. Really appreciate the hard work you put in. Do you remember how long each rubber line was from the thermostat inlet/outlet to the cooler?
These toyota 6 speed gearbox are insanely reliable with stock trans cooler you can all the way to 700hp with only valvebody upgrade I had mine for 7 years with zero issues.
Great video, thanks for sharing. It doesn't apply to me as I own a 2014 but it's great for the owners of the newer ones.
The boiling point of the Toyota WS fluid is somewhere around 500-600F, this is according to someone a lot smarter than I.
I wouldn't advice running your transmission that cool, the cooler the fluid.. the thicker the flow.
It could be possible that some parts won't be properly lubricated, parts may wear down. I would remove that zip tie.
I agree, Toyota should not have removed those parts. Having said that, after purchasing a 6000lb camper a few years ago I picked my friends brain on the capabilities of my Tundra.
I figured he knows his stuff seeing that he makes a living getting his hands dirty in a transmission shop.
He just laughed and told me "you have nothing to worry about, your truck and that trailer combined is too light for that drivetrain..from the rear diff all the way to the five seven."
I just looked at him, "ok".
That is an excellent point. I never thought of that aspect. I have a 2020 Tundra and according to my dealer...I am Canadian....ALL CANADIAN Tundras have a Transmission cooler. Now some have commented that my dealer lied to me...i am looking deeper into the situation.
@@mikefoehr235 interesting, easy way to find out. Just look at the front of the truck behind the grill on the top right hand corner. If there's hoses there, it has it.
@@louie4316 Thanks
@@mikefoehr235 no problem, sorry I meant to say upper left hand side.
The boiling point of the fluid has nothing to do with how long your transmission will last. 250F the clutches start breaking down, the longer your transmission runs at 250+ the shorter the life of the transmission
I believe TOYOTA comes with a new trans oil which can withstand more extreme temperatures and thus avoiding the need for external oil cooler.I watch the same thing in TFL channel as well.
...guess I will take it all back off my truck then lol!
Same old non-synthetic WS fluid.
Hiya, About how much more Tranny fluid did your cooler take? I'm guessing about 1.5 quarts? Cheers
Have you considered switching to an electric fan to replace the old school mechanical clutch fan. Should help with temps and mpg.
no, aftermarket electric fans are not usually better than the factory fan clutch.
Good thing i bought the last 2018.
Thank you Sir!
Awesome job! Where did you get the aluminum pieces you used to make the brackets? Were you able to mount the other side of the cooler where you said you put a spacer to the lower radiator bracket?
There is a threaded hole on the bottom left that I used a 10mm head bolt with the spacer. Aluminum is just from homedepot or local hardware store. I bent it on my bench vise by eye
@@aprecision4013 Ok. Thanks for the reply!
Great video, thank you. Have ine question, Did you leave the thermostat pinned?
yeah, I left it pinned as I explained in my video. I live in a warm climate normal temps here are almost never below freezing and in the summer are usually above 100F in the day time. If I lived in the great lakes area I would not do that, I would use the thermostat. Living somewhere that never gets down to freezing you don't need a thermostat to warm up the transmission.
Do you happen to know which line is the hot and cold? I am planning to add a transmission temp sensor and a gauge pod inside my truck.
Send this to TOYOTA GOOD JOB 👍🏻 💯
How much is the difference in temp. Before/after??, i think that i want to put a transmission cooler in my xse v6 camry but TFT runs in hot day at 215f and my highlander xle runs tft at 195f
Thanks for the information and video, I'm considering doing the same on a Canadian 2021 if I buy the truck.
Toyota Canada lists the 2021 Tundra drivetrain in the brochure as having:
TOW/HAUL Mode, Console Mounted Shift Lever,
Lock Up Torque
Converter, Transmission Cooler, Automatic Transmission
Fluid Warmer .
I'm reading Toyota is calling the warmer a cooler yet it seems they are listed separately. Can anyone confirm the CDN model is the same as the US model? One guy below mentioned the dealers say the CDN version is different.
Had a look and a '21 I saw didn't seem to have the Cooler Assembly, Transmission Oil With THERMOSTAT - Toyota (32970-34030) but not 100% sure.
look at the passenger side transmission. If it has the part I installed and the cooler lines going up to the front of the truck, then you have it. If you don't have it, you are just like the rest of the US trucks.
Thank you for posting your video. Question: I just bought a 2021 Tundra and can I replace a transmission oil cooler from a year before because the dealer may not have it yet. Any advice because I plan to tow with my truck and that's one of the reason why I bought it.
these parts will work on a 2021 as well parts are listed in the video description
Meng Song I'd definitely do it. I just had mine done and it literally went down 30 degrees. They put an electric fan on mine and those temps were with the fan off.
How much did it cost to get it done?
Are you still leaving the pin in the thermostat ?? Can you just unscrew the end and remove it ?
Have you tried WITH thermostat, how did it affect temperature? I heard factory setting is 190 deg...
Im doing this soon. Is there parts not listed? Is there bolts i need for the transmission cooler?
GOOD DATA!
I just keep wondering if this new upgrade will fit my 2008 tundra❗
should be on your truck already as long as you have the factory tow package, other wise it should have parts out there that will work to add it for your year.
Can you provide the codes from scangauge. I’m only reading Torque converter on my 2020.
they are listed in the video description
how were the temps over the winter? did up unpin it? do a video update!!
just posted an update video
@APrecision
your video lists Toyota thermostat PN 32970 34030 and I saw a video right after from DirtE30 that does everything else the same, but lists Toyota thermostat PN 32971 34030
Do you know the difference?
no I don't, I just know this part worked for my 2020 you can see the box in my video of the PN so it is correct. I have no idea about other channels and what they post
Do you know if u need a heat shield on the catalytic converters next to it they store mine and I had replace it but but the coolant is leaking. The sealant from the coolant are getting shrivel of the heat and the thing that I can think of is the catalytic converters is next to it
I would say that is most likely the reason. I did work to zip tie all my lines as far from the exhaust as possible. I have had this on my truck since mid June and I have had no leaks or melting issues with all of the factory heat shielding in place.
Pull the pin... the thermostat is there for a reason, the pin is there for when you want to change the fluid at the cooler.
no thanks
Thank you for the helpful video. Was 1QT enough to replace what was lost, plus compensating for the lines/cooler? Also how many feet of hose did you need? Thank you.
1qt was too much I would say probably half a qt came back out when I performed the check routine. I didn't use the hose that came with the kit. You basically need two 6' sections of hose so 15' to be safe.
How do you do the check routine to know your ATF level is correct after this mod?
@@aprecision4013 How do you do the check routine to know your ATF level is correct after this mod?
@@fatboyslim6830 best to just look up a video separate from here
@@aprecision4013 You ordered a 3/8" ID cooler, are the Transmission hoses 11/32" (from what I have read, I could be wrong).
I didn’t read all the comments but I’d love to know how’s your experience with pin the thermostat?
just posted an update video
Hi. Nice! If I want the thermostat to operate I pull the pin right?
that's right.
I got one with the tow package.
Im tweeting at Toyota usa everyday to add back the transmission cooler and to keep a V8 optionfor the next gen. #maketoyotagreatagain #maketundragreatagain hopefully if enough people complain they will listen
where do I write ?
Idk if there is an official place but i have been tweeting to toyotausa account and emailing toyota directly. Supposedly they are keeping the emails according to one person i talked too. Maybe if enough people complain they will bring it back on a next gen refresh. That hastag is used on tweeter
I forgot to mention that i also ask Toyota to put the transmission cooler back on tundras and sequoias (removed them in 2019+)
I would like toyota to lend a 2019 or later model tundra to a Texas rancher and let him use it for 100,000 miles, get it back, and deconstruct it to see how it holds up like they have previously done in the toyota deconstructed video series
👍👍💯
I still can't believe the took it off to save a few bucks. Seems too risky and ridiculous. Also, I noticed you are running michelin defenders (used to be MS/2's) how many miles are you getting out of those tires?
came with the truck brand new, I have 7k miles on them. They are a highway tire in my opinion and seem to wear slowly so I would guess they will go 60kmi +
Do you need longer bolts for the housing? Saw on another post.
no, the housing is the same thickness as the spacer plate that they put in place of the cooler plate
I believe there is a lawsuit pending for Tundras being sold with the tow package on the sticker that includes trans cooler. Hopefully toyota will be forced to make good on this. I want to do this upgrade but feel like a sucker spending more money on top of a brand new truck that costs 50k.
@C Parkerz......I'm feeling the same way and it is the very reason I won't buy a cooler and put it on myself. I'm hoping that this will happen soon as I don't want to run my truck much longer without the cooler.
I feel the same way and will gladly let Toyota put their parts on it if they ever recall. In the mean time I am not willing to drive it around knowing that it will damage the transmission in the long run. I put it on under 4k mi and I never towed in those first 4k mi so I don't think I did any damage to it. I was more concerned that the transmission will fail somewhere out of warranty like 100k mi (way too early but will out of warranty and probably 7 yrs into my owning it) and by that time it will just be on me to replace it
Toyota needs to be Sued for this my 2019 Trd Pro is the same way. Installed everything a week ago.
Bought a 2020 tundra used from the dealer. Transmission blew up within a month. Toyota is replacing it under warranty. Only 47,000 miles on the truck. The previous owner towed a fish house with it. I’ll be adding one after I get the truck back.
Don’t forget that Chevy removed their coolers back in 2014 for the same reason. They can run “hot” on synthetic but I’m sure all of us UA-cam-ers know more than the people who test and build the trucks.
WS is not a synthetic, it was designed 20 years ago so it's not even "modern" The transmission has evolved some but is basically a 2007 design (along with the engine) . If anything I am only relying on their previous engineering (and reliability of those years) that from 2007 to 2018 (11yrs) had a cooler on the same hardware as my 2020. I am not re-inventing the system, I am installing their own parts.
I like to see 220 max, anything over is not going to last long.
I'm a truck newbie so pardon the dumb question, but does this issue only pertain to Tundras involved in towing heavy loads?
no, I was seeing 230 degrees around town, I believe I stated that in the beginning of my video...
Transmission color no longer needed on 2019 and up, its normal temperature around 200f-280f while towing 😁, things has changed.
the transmission over temp light is still set at 300...nothing fundamentally has changed. If 300 is cooking your trans, so is 280.
Any tempature over 220 is cooking your transmission oil and will reduce the life of you trans fluid. Make no mistake this is bad for your transmission, there is no special sauce or any changes to the transmission to make it handle these temperatures.
Did you consider using the Automatic Transmission Oil Cooler Tube - Toyota (32907-0C020) hard lines or not required for a clean install?
they were expensive so I decided to keep it cheaper. There isn't any need for it. I have the rubber hose there for a year with 10,000mi on it and no issues.
@@aprecision4013 Perfect, thanks. Only concern was wear points on the hose but it sounds like you have it covered. Helpful video.
Good video but toyota has proven their transmission temp reliability (they are stupid for removing the part), so i would use the pump as toyota says to.
So I wonder is my 15 has one?
Does anyone know of an OBD2 scanner that will monitor and display the trans oil temps? If we're going to install a cooler, it would be nice to be able to see the temps, and know its working.
I put one in this video, scan gauge II
@@aprecision4013ok, thank you. Ordering one today.
Any update? I'm planning to doing this setup on my truck too
I have an update video on my channel that I did a month or so ago. I actually just pulled a 9000lb trailer 1000mi from the bay area up to Coeur D'Alene Idaho and I never got it over 200 and that was in the hills and it was 110F air temp outside in Redding. I think it works really well.
Will this fit on the 4.6 tundra? Thinking about doin this. Did a drain and fill at 40k and the fluid was black.
I don't know for certain, but I think they are the same transmission. The 5.7 is just a stroked 4.6 from what I have read but I don't know that for certain.
@@aprecision4013 thank you for the reply. Turns out the 4.6 is different. It doesn't have same spacer. There is a bracket holding heater instead of that spacer with o rings. It has 2 hoses coming from transmission to heater. I just installed an aftermarket coil and bypassed heater. 200 degree down to 160 degree. Well worth it. Thank you for the help!
Hello what is the name of the obd2 scanner you have there? Thx
scangauge2
There should be a class action lawsuit because it's is listed on the Moroney (sic) sticker. Had I known I would have requested one installed as part of the purchase price. My 3rd tundra and 6th Toyota. They lost my next vehicle purchase. Really shady of them to do this.
How do you know what’s the inlet and outlet for flow on the new part ?
It doesn't matter, the cooler plate doesn't have a directional flow so there isn't a wrong way to hook it up. The thermostat open it flows through the cooler and then back to the return. No matter how you hook it up it will alway work like that.
APrecision thank you!
thanks !! I have a 2020 also, and hated that Toyota deleted the trans cooler. do you mind sharing which Scangauge codes you were using? I could only get one of the reading on my Scangauge, not sure how you got 2 of temp readings. I believe Scangauge lists 4, but I only got 1 code working. thanks.
Transmission Temperature 1 - pan
TXD: 07E02182
RXF: 046105820000
RXD: 2808
MTH: 00090005FFD8
NAM: TF1
Transmission Temperature 2 - Torque Converter output
TXD: 07E02182
RXF: 046105820000
RXD: 3808
MTH: 00090005FFD8
NAM: TF2
Did this truck show a factory towing package on the original window sticker/ manifest?
yes
Should have watched more of your video lol.
My 2010 came without the auxiliary cooler as well. I installed it and the factory engine oil cooler.
I always wondered how hot the converter outlet would actually get, thanks to that TFL video we know now. I guess it would live, but I'm with you, over 220 is unacceptable.
does it matter which hose goes to the upper and lower cooler?
It doesn't matter unless you bought a cooler plate that has a directional flow to it. Most of them do not though.
Hello. Just bought a 20 tundra. Planning to tow light trailer 3500 lbs. I was wondering if I can get this installed by a shop or dealer. How much it will cost. I just don't trust myself. Thank you.
I'm sure a shop will do this for you, it took me around 4 hours, so add that to the parts you are probably looking around $800-$1000 at 100-150 an hour labor charges. I don't know if dealerships will do this, but if they do figure double that price.
Any transmission shop will do this.
Why not buy the Toyota cooler radiator and factory lines, make it all factory?
you can, it costs a lot more though
I need this but I don’t trust my self
Everytime i serviced my 2018 tundra i always asked them when should i expect to change the transmission fluid.
Toyota dealer response: 120k miles
ME: WHAT?! IT'LL BE DEAD BY THEN
GOOD THING YOU SAVED YOURSELF THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS AND KEEP US UPDATED ON THE TEMPS.
WILL BE PINNING MY THERMOSTAT AS WELL.
My 06 Sequoia's manual says it is lifetime fluid and not to change it ever unless you tow frequently!
@@aprecision4013 update on my 2018 tundra , pinned the thermostat and now my temps are 160f before they were 195f
Hey did you add those fender flares? If so where did u get them.
Yes I did, bushwhacker OE style. I put them on then used masking tape to outline where they touch. I then installed paint protection 3M film to where they touch the body and then reinstalled the flares so that they won't stratch the paint.
@@aprecision4013 awesome thanks for the reply. I’m thinking of adding them living up north in the rust belt I need to protect from Rock chips.
How did it do in the winter?
It runs between 150 and 160 but its 50 degrees here all winter long. If you live in a below zero climate I wouldn't pin the thermostat. I live were its 50-115 degrees so no need to have a thermostat on it. It still gets up to 200 in the summer when climbing hills out of TC lockup.
Everything tgibg is great but that transmission in conjunction with ws fluid is designed for normal operating temps 180-210f, 150f is too low & will cause just as many issues as overheated fluid so the proper thing to do ia get a cooler with built in bypass that opens up @180f or separate bypass that opens at 180f & if u have at lwast a 24000 btu cooler it ahould run 190f 10%~ best of botg worlds
Sorry, your comment was answered in the video, It has a thermostat on the factory toyota part I added, I pinned it open for now. It runs at 175-180 after 15min of driving, like I show at the end of my video. If I pull the pin on the thermostat it is supposed to run from around 190-220. It is just fine.
@@aprecision4013 hey what size hoses did you emd up using? Diameter wise & fittings
@@ping_me1vp Parts:
Toyota: 32970-34030 Thermostat Unit
Amazon: Hayden 689 Rapid Cool Plate and Fin Transmission Cooler
Amazon: 3/8" ID Derale Transmission/Engine Oil Hose
Was a quart or atf enough? Did some spill out ?
more than enough, I didn't have any spills. most of it came back out of the check port on the pan when I warmed it up and checked the level
@@aprecision4013 hey man one more question what’s a good temp to check the atf level? Will be doing this tomorrow
@@AROD. I think the spec is 180-190
Toyota makes more profit than any auto manufacturer in the world, the problem is you shouldnt have to be doing this shit when it says theres a cooler on the window sticker, I call that false advertising, shame on Toyota and Mike Sweers, if I knew this I would have passed on my 2019 tundra, they can stick their "QDR" up their ass, great video
Definetly pull the pin on the thermostat and use as designed. You might create a whole new set of problems.
The thermostat is there for a reason to keep it at its normal operating temperature. If it runs to cool, it could do harm.
I've bought a 2021 and just ordered the Thermostat Unit 32970-34030 from Sparks. I hope it works out for my '21 and I don't think it'll be an issue as there hasn't been a meaningful update to Tundra in the last 10 years.. What do you think?
it will work
@@aprecision4013 Thanks for the response and I agree. It's just crazy to spend the money on a new truck and have to address this issue. I'll be using your video as my guide. Thanks again -
Did you had to add transmission fluid after install cooler? If so how much fluids
I added 1qt and then warmed it up and checked it and probably half a qt came back out.
@@aprecision4013 where did you put the ATF ? I cannot see a fill point
@@italRotty On the drivers side of the transmission there is a plug that says WS on it. You either have to pump it in or you have to get a long hose and a funnel from the engine compartment. I suggest watching a video on how to fill and check the level.
@@aprecision4013 thank you ! this actually is going to be the hardest part of the job to insure proper fill level. you made a video of the fill ? thanks for your reply !
@@italRotty I didn't make a fill video because there are already plenty of them out there on youtube. Its really not hard at all. you add in the extra qt, warm it up to operating temp, and then open the check plug and let it drain out until it just drips.
You should have told the dealership to put it on before you put your signature on the paperwork.
The paper work shows it has a transmission cooler as part of the tow package when I bought it in January. I had no idea the plate upfront was removed from the 2019-2020 until I saw the @TundraDude34 videos addressing a couple weeks ago. Toyota is now calling the transmission warmer a "cooler" as it does dissipate heat as well. Doubt the dealer will put them on as they aren't an option on any 2020 model.
This is what I plan on doing when I buy a 2021 Tundra TRD Pro double cab 6.5 ft bed, I want a aux cooler installed included in the total price of the vehicle I settle for. Toyota is going to end up with lots of fried transmissions in short order with this mickey mouse setup. I dont' want temps in the trans pan over 210 f . Should run unloaded around 180-190. Not sure What Toyota is thinking here.
@@davidcox2197 TFL used a 2020 Tundra towing in their uphill test in Colorado with the temp in the 30’s and the transmission temp got to 246 degrees. Imagine summertime.
@@Bushy556 Yep, we got ambient summer temps over 100 degree f half the summer here in Calif, And Nevada desert over 100 summers too, 4x4ing low range in Desert you would get some super hot temps. Toyota really screwed up there.
What song is playing at 6:00?
its staind but I don't know which song
Will this upgraded void factory warranty?
No, but if you get a leak in anything you installed and it causes it to lose all of the fluid it wouldn't be covered under warranty. If anything happens to the trans they would have to prove that adding their own factory Toyota parts caused it to fail
@@aprecision4013 Thanks a lot my friend.
Aisin transmissions a toyota company, in Rams rarely go higher than 168 deg.
Hey which one is supply & return on that t-stat top or bottom?
I don't know, but it doesn't matter the system is a loop. There isn't directional flow through the plate cooler so it will work no matter how it is connected.
@@aprecision4013 it certainly matters you want supply going into cooler inlet especially if/when cooler has internal regulating bypass + some coolers are also deffinetly designed to flow one way instead of some others that are bidirectional, than you would have to position cooler either horizontal or vertical inlet & outlets that becomes extremely important since most of cheaper ones don't have check valve type vents to purge air out especially do to expansion & contractions of trans fluid
@@aprecision4013 also there's some coolers that won't even flow correctly if connected backwards due to internal design & especially initial air stock in the coil. All good i gotta find the flow diagram or just do quick function test to find out the flow no biggie
@@aprecision4013 the top goes tp the cooler & the bottom is return for anyone that needs fluid flow for installation of thermostat correctly
@@ping_me1vp it doesn't matter how you hook it up...when the thermostat opens it sends fluid out through the cooler and back to the return. It will either flow clockwise or counter clockwise through the system depending which side of the cooler you hook it up to. Since the cooler plate is not directional it simply doesn't matter you are making a loop.
How much $$ was this?
175 for the toyota part from sparks, 75 for the plate kit from amazon, I already had everything else in my garage so maybe 30 for hose and oil and aluminum.
Tell me about your scan gear please....
what can I tell you that google doesn't?
www.scangauge.com/products/scangauge-ii/
Idk, real world experience.
@@blaised7326 I bought it with the purpose of monitoring the torque converter temps as well as the transmission pan temps, which it does its job. I also have the water temp displayed as well as the ignition timing, I was curious to see how much timing it pulled when I run premium vs regular, haven't been able to tell. I don't usually change the settings I just keep them the same so it works for what I want it to do. There are other apps out there that work through your phone as well that will do the same thing.
I use a ScanGauge2 to monitor trans temps on my 2019 Tundra 4.6L. Works well once you get it set. I bought the 4.6L as gas is expensive in Canada.
Hopefully the bunch who removed your cooler doesn't void your warranty for putting it back on. I suspect they will to be honest. Ever consider getting a half ton that's not a Toyota since they do things like this? The answer is no right? Good luck.
I think if I went to any other truck in would be a 3/4ton gas either ford or chevy. I am not a fan of turbos, the 4l60e tranny, or dodge products. Smog made diesels unreliable and expensive to maintain. I don't really care if it does void the warranty (even though I have my doubts that it would since I am using Toyota factory parts) I decided to bet on a cooler running transmission and hopefully never need to replace it vs hopefully its still under warranty when its cooked itself. That being said, if you don't tow I wouldn't bother with this mod. I tow 7,000lbs from Bay Area to Tahoe 175mi with 10,000ft elevation change and you go up and down for 75mi with some grades as long as 5mi.
@@aprecision4013 Maybe not in USA with your laws, but in Canada you would be up crap creek for warranty. No consumer protection here. The stock setup shared the AC condenser did it not? That's what my Ram does anyways. The small rad you added is what I was referring to. It's a free country hopefully it works out for you, nice looking work anyways. The commercials keep telling me Toyota reliability is the stuff of legends, so maybe you won't have to find out anyways. Agree that stock set up would have fried itself. Dirty thing for them to do to save 100 per truck.
yeah it originally ran through the AC condenser. In the US there is protection for buyers that says that the failure would need to be proven to be caused by the mod. So if the parts I add cause it to fail then yes it would be my fault and not covered under warranty.
@@aprecision4013 Yes must be nice, no lemon law either here. I'm nearing the end of my powertrain warranty so then I can do what I want here soon.
@@aprecision4013 My ZF is running about 179 to 183 highway. At 35 ambient I believe yesterday. Same idea it runs through the condenser.
It opens at 190
mine is running 175 in the pan consistently. I am going to leave it like that.
It will come up to op temp quicker with the thermostat working. I just installed mine yesterday, it is opening at 190 and seems to stay open until it drops to about 178 or so...
lets face it , every truck manufacturer is in the bussiness for selling trucks ..if it breaks earlier , chances are you'll buy another one earlier
yeah look at the chevy pump rub issues on the transfer cases, 90s-mid 2000s took them 15 years to change the design flaw that could have been fixed with at 10c piece of spring steel. Since it failed around 175k mi they didn't care.
Why Toyota? Why...
Amazon says the Hayden 689 cooling plate doesn't work with a 2020 tundra
....well I showed them wrong
Was the hose that came with the Hayden cooling played enough or did you have to buy extra
@@gibluap no, I bought more.
15' of hose is plenty
@@aprecision4013 I'm sure that seems like a stupid question but what was the quart of fluid that you added
The Tundra has specially formulated transmission fluid.
you mean the same fluid since 2000 WS?
I guess you know more than engineers. Chevy stopped using coolers since 2014.
@@04tundra1 how about addressing what I did with some actual facts about what I have done wrong. How have I done wrong by running my transmission at 175 instead of 230?
Mike Sweers address this issue a year ago. Maybe you should see the video on Pickup Truck Talk on UA-cam. They test the Tundra under extreme conditions. More than what you tow.
@@04tundra1 Saw them before I even did this install. In fact, Mike and TundraDude34 were the first one along with DirtE30 that made me realize after purchasing that there was issues. So far Toyota says its fine I am very well aware, however, they won't give what their target numbers are for temp vs time, or a reason guys are getting overtemp lights turning on while towing, 300F where the overtemp light turns means you need at minimum a complete fluid change. WS fluid is not even a full synthetic, was engineered over 20 years ago and still the same fluid used in these trucks today. An ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure. #1) I spent $275 and I WILL NOT ruin, damage or otherwise hurt this transmission at 175F. I MIGHT ruin it at 250F+ and maybe if I'm lucky Toyota will replace it if it fails, or I am out $4k plus it stranded me somewhere. I trust the DATA not engineers but you do you.
Did you watch my video see the results at the end of my testing or did you just come here to try to put me down, act like Toyota engineers never make mistakes... I own a 95 4runner with a 3.0 3VZE that blows head gaskets every couple years and its in my other videos on this channel. By the way my crappy channel has more views in 2 months on this Tundra transmission cooler than all of my other video put together, people know there is an issue here.
just checked with my Toyota dealer parts guy , I gave him the part # and explained the situation and guess what he said, the part ( #3297134030) was able to fit 2008 to 2014 AND 2021 models ! i wonder if it means they are putting the trans cooler back in the 2021 models ! if so I think we are in for some sort of rebate or upgrade to the 2019 and 2020 models.
Hopefully so but I wish they would hurry up about it as mine has 4000 miles right now.
No cooler on 2021! I just bought one.