Yes! We have a 15 foot by 8 foot kitchen open into dining room and 8x8 pantry. It was originally for a laundry room but we moved the laundry room. We do cook most of the time (never ever bake) but I don't like cooking so I cheat a lot with Dutch oven, crockpot and cuisines, so we stick to one pot meals. Low effort, easy to clean up and I don't have to hang out any longer in the kitchen than it takes to chop up veg and chuck the rest of the ingredients in. We know how we'll lay out the kitchen, not so sure about the pantry. Teens and toddlers will be accessing it. So snacks drawer for littles, toaster, microwave, bulk storage for kitchen, maybe a sink? It has water from the original laundry room. I don't know, every time I go over it, I'm really not sure.
Hoi, Mark, I have saved some of your videos in a 'folder' to show later to the person from a Total Concept Company that we would like to hire for all the work that will need to be done: veranda (ice cold in winter and much too hot in the summer) removed and new built part instead. Close off the current kitchen door and create an opening to the newly built part that will connect the kitchen and dining area. Reorganize the kitchen and dining area + create built-in cupboards in the dining area. I want to use many ideas to make our kitchen and dining area the way I would like it (as far as possible of course). In the kitchen itself there will be a smaller refrigerator where all cooking utensils can be stored and in the dining area we will have a side-by-side (fridge & freezer). The kitchen should contain cupboards, maybe pantry pull out units (or something else) and deep (dubble) drawers: to put in everything related to cooking & baking and all supplies and food (cans, jars, etc.). The fitted cupboards in the dining area would then contain cutlery, crockery, etc. In the dining area I would like a bench with a backrest and storage space in the bench (folding seat) and the bench should form a corner. Table and two easy chairs with backrests. The new building should be much less high than the veranda that is now there, but still have floor-to-ceiling glass sliding doors to let in a lot of light and air. And possibly a skylight that can be opened (electrically). We have already had one thing done as a start and that is solar panels with storage capacity and also air conditioning. Because the son (especially him) and I sweat very hard due to constant pain (due to our muscle- and connective tissue- disease), it was unbearably hot for us in the summer. For the time being there is only air conditioning upstairs in the two bedrooms. But I think that makes sleeping easier. Downstairs will only come airco after the renovation work. In any case, there is still a lot to do and perhaps I will contact you to present the plans of the person who makes it, to know your thoughts and ideas about it, if that is okay? Lots of thanks and all the best for you and the family from old Pinkie
2:11....that's how cookware should be stored to avoid becoming dust magnets. A suspended pot rack hung from the ceiling is great for fast access, but leaving items hanging out all the time inevitably collects particles from the air, necessitating a rinse before every use.
Oh, how i'd love to have some of these pantries on here, or even the one i have in our current house., in our next house. That house doesn't have a pantry in the kitchen (there is one in the dining room, but i'll use that for dishes), so i'm going to create one out of a bookcase because i'm scared to cut into the wall and a bookcase will fit beside the refrigerator.
Great content as always. I'm thinking of a design that will put a pantry on the end of a run (open to the dining room) beside the refrigerator. Since the refrigerator is ridiculously deep, I am thinking that building the structure to place the pantry out from the wall would look much better. Now, the thought occurred to me that a narrow pull out behind the pantry, pulling towards the dining room, would be a great spot for broom/mop cabinet. Hmmm...that might work. I've been trying to figure out a spot for that. Again, thanks Mark! You rock! (My son says nobody says that anymore, but you do anyway!🕺🕺)
by the time we have kids old enough to critique our vernacular, we're old enough to tell someone they rock when they do - even if the kids disapprove. I like your idea for the broom cupboard. I'm still struggling with where to put mine. I want the base of my mop cupboard built like a deep shower recess so I can tip out mop buckets there because lifting them doesn't agree with my back, but I don't have space anywhere that would make sense.
I screwed up when I got my fridge. The bowed handles on the freezer doors (french door fridge) hit the pantry door so that the pull outs don't slide all the way out. It sucks but I'm not buying a new fridge anytime soon (I hope). The pantry was a bit of an after thought and I'm happy to have the extra storage but if I had given it a little more thought I could have avoided the issue. I don't know how I could fix it without spending way too much money.
Oh no. I'm not sure if you can fix that without changing something major. You might have to take the good with the bad on this one. Or see if there is another a=handle option for the fridge like mentioned by Hilary.
In my kitchen, the builder created a pantry 'room' but not really. The pantry is behind a regular width door, and only has counter depth shelves. Basically the pantry is 32" x 21". Any suggestions on better options for a space like this?
I’m helping my parents design their kitchen remodel and they have a closet that serves as a broom closet, pots and pan storage, and pantry. It’s in a very awkward spot though, stuck between an end lower cabinet and the oven/stove top in the corner of the kitchen. I’ve suggested first to install a pocket door to replace the existing traditional swing hinge door for ease of access. I feel like the pantry is still in the wrong spot because it’s as you said, “stuck in the workflow of the kitchen”😢
I think the pocket door idea would help too. It might make the pantry a little easier to access due to its less then ideal location. One thing I've done in a closet is just install an actual cabinet pantry. It makes it easier to use overall, so that might be an option too.
Hate pullouts that also have a door that you have to open first. Generally when accessing panties is your hands are full so opening a door and then pulling out a shelf is not convenient.
I HATE a pull out pantry with a wire base and no individual drawers- ❌❌❌Also hate a corner cupboard with a 3/4 lazy Susan. Dear god, beam me up Scotty!!
Don't build appliances such as the microwave or oven into your pantry if you can avoid it. Heat and steam are the enemies of shelf-stable stored foods. If you have to fit appliances there, at least make it something like your electric mixer that isn't releasing heat and steam into your stored foods. Even the fridge isn't a good neighbour for the pantry because of the amount of heat it releases.
Not gonna lie the advice to use hardware in these pantries seems wrong to me, maybe the example clips were just awful but each one seemed horribly wasteful with space. Honestly all examples would of just benefitted much more from either unifying the space into a larger than standard or double sized cabinet and giving a couple inches more clearance over the top to just be able to see and reach in or maybe using a larder style door with slightly shallower shelving and contained shelves in the doors.
Our kitchen pantry was designed and built under the stairs. This design allowed for long pull out drawers featuring the length and depth of the steps . Wonderful storage for all the small appliances that you do not use everyday. hidden panelled doors looks like a decorative wall . This was custom make cabinetry but so worth it .!!
You skipped a step-in closet pantry, but maybe you consider that a "room" because it has framed walls with installed shelves instead of cabinetry. The closet door may or may not offer additional storage. I tend to think of a pantry "room" as a space large enough for cabinetry and/or counter space, and a pantry closet as lacking those 2 elements.
I'm thinking of a walk in pantry design that fits my family. We love our pebble/nugget ice, and our countertop ice machine. It's reliable, but an eyesore on the counter. It's also very heavy and needs to be next to the sink for drainage and cleaning. So in my future pantry, I'd need at least a small sink and small counter top. Additionally, I 've always found that having a second fridge (particularly around the holidays) is a god-send. But I'm wondering if it's wise to keep appliances that put off heat in a closed-off space with the food stores. Would you recommend planning on a minimum size so that this is doable? Should I plan on a window or fan or transom on the door for ventilation? Or just put the second fridge elsewhere, like the garage? Thank you!
I have a walk in pantry with 2nd fridge, always have my extra ingridnets when I buy bulk, my pantry has vent and lots shelves space, don‘t have counter space or sink, i have many baskets with labels to organized it, shelves for all small appliances . I would ’t have another house without walk in pantry and 2nd fridge. i love it.
Yes! Do walk-in pantries 🙂 I am trying to design mine as we are restoring our 1946 house? Cottage?
Great timing on this video, looking forward to one on Butler’s pantry also. Thank you & have a great day 🙏
Yes! We have a 15 foot by 8 foot kitchen open into dining room and 8x8 pantry. It was originally for a laundry room but we moved the laundry room. We do cook most of the time (never ever bake) but I don't like cooking so I cheat a lot with Dutch oven, crockpot and cuisines, so we stick to one pot meals. Low effort, easy to clean up and I don't have to hang out any longer in the kitchen than it takes to chop up veg and chuck the rest of the ingredients in. We know how we'll lay out the kitchen, not so sure about the pantry. Teens and toddlers will be accessing it. So snacks drawer for littles, toaster, microwave, bulk storage for kitchen, maybe a sink? It has water from the original laundry room.
I don't know, every time I go over it, I'm really not sure.
Great topic, great video! 👍
Love this content. Sums up this topic and answers so many questions in an easily digestible format!
Hey thanks. Appreciate the kind comment. Glad the video is helpful.
This was great!! I’m working on the small space I have : thanks for the hot tips!!
I always wanted an old school butler pantry!
We are building a house and plan to have a butler’s pantry. Can’t wait to see that video
Hoi, Mark, I have saved some of your videos in a 'folder' to show later to the person from a Total Concept Company that we would like to hire for all the work that will need to be done: veranda (ice cold in winter and much too hot in the summer) removed and new built part instead. Close off the current kitchen door and create an opening to the newly built part that will connect the kitchen and dining area. Reorganize the kitchen and dining area + create built-in cupboards in the dining area. I want to use many ideas to make our kitchen and dining area the way I would like it (as far as possible of course).
In the kitchen itself there will be a smaller refrigerator where all cooking utensils can be stored and in the dining area we will have a side-by-side (fridge & freezer).
The kitchen should contain cupboards, maybe pantry pull out units (or something else) and deep (dubble) drawers: to put in everything related to cooking & baking and all supplies and food (cans, jars, etc.). The fitted cupboards in the dining area would then contain cutlery, crockery, etc. In the dining area I would like a bench with a backrest and storage space in the bench (folding seat) and the bench should form a corner. Table and two easy chairs with backrests.
The new building should be much less high than the veranda that is now there, but still have floor-to-ceiling glass sliding doors to let in a lot of light and air. And possibly a skylight that can be opened (electrically).
We have already had one thing done as a start and that is solar panels with storage capacity and also air conditioning. Because the son (especially him) and I sweat very hard due to constant pain (due to our muscle- and connective tissue- disease), it was unbearably hot for us in the summer. For the time being there is only air conditioning upstairs in the two bedrooms. But I think that makes sleeping easier. Downstairs will only come airco after the renovation work. In any case, there is still a lot to do and perhaps I will contact you to present the plans of the person who makes it, to know your thoughts and ideas about it, if that is okay?
Lots of thanks and all the best for you and the family from old Pinkie
Hey Pinkie!! Sounds great. Reach out when you need me. Thanks so much for watching my content!
2:11....that's how cookware should be stored to avoid becoming dust magnets. A suspended pot rack hung from the ceiling is great for fast access, but leaving items hanging out all the time inevitably collects particles from the air, necessitating a rinse before every use.
Oh, how i'd love to have some of these pantries on here, or even the one i have in our current house., in our next house. That house doesn't have a pantry in the kitchen (there is one in the dining room, but i'll use that for dishes), so i'm going to create one out of a bookcase because i'm scared to cut into the wall and a bookcase will fit beside the refrigerator.
A bookcase is a great idea. That will look really custom and add character!
@@teri-joscott8279 Thank you, i appreciate the vote of confidence 😁
Yeah, I'm all for the bookcase idea as well.
@@MTKDofficial Thank you 😁
Awesome video. Thank you and when will you be doing one on walk-in pantries? Ours needs a complete renovation.
Thanks so much! The walk-in pantry vid is coming soon!
Great content as always. I'm thinking of a design that will put a pantry on the end of a run (open to the dining room) beside the refrigerator. Since the refrigerator is ridiculously deep, I am thinking that building the structure to place the pantry out from the wall would look much better. Now, the thought occurred to me that a narrow pull out behind the pantry, pulling towards the dining room, would be a great spot for broom/mop cabinet. Hmmm...that might work. I've been trying to figure out a spot for that. Again, thanks Mark! You rock! (My son says nobody says that anymore, but you do anyway!🕺🕺)
haha! Thanks. You Rock as well. Glad I sparked some thoughts about the pantry solution.
by the time we have kids old enough to critique our vernacular, we're old enough to tell someone they rock when they do - even if the kids disapprove.
I like your idea for the broom cupboard. I'm still struggling with where to put mine. I want the base of my mop cupboard built like a deep shower recess so I can tip out mop buckets there because lifting them doesn't agree with my back, but I don't have space anywhere that would make sense.
I screwed up when I got my fridge. The bowed handles on the freezer doors (french door fridge) hit the pantry door so that the pull outs don't slide all the way out. It sucks but I'm not buying a new fridge anytime soon (I hope). The pantry was a bit of an after thought and I'm happy to have the extra storage but if I had given it a little more thought I could have avoided the issue. I don't know how I could fix it without spending way too much money.
I wonder if you could find other handles for the fridge that don't stick out as much.
Oh no. I'm not sure if you can fix that without changing something major. You might have to take the good with the bad on this one. Or see if there is another a=handle option for the fridge like mentioned by Hilary.
I want a smuggler pantry.
What's a smuggler pantry? 🙂
@@tamaramartin4015 it's also known as a hidden pantry you just push on the door and enter into it
@@carynvanwyk Thank you. i've seen those, and yes, i'd love to have one, too 🤗
In my kitchen, the builder created a pantry 'room' but not really. The pantry is behind a regular width door, and only has counter depth shelves. Basically the pantry is 32" x 21". Any suggestions on better options for a space like this?
I’m helping my parents design their kitchen remodel and they have a closet that serves as a broom closet, pots and pan storage, and pantry. It’s in a very awkward spot though, stuck between an end lower cabinet and the oven/stove top in the corner of the kitchen. I’ve suggested first to install a pocket door to replace the existing traditional swing hinge door for ease of access. I feel like the pantry is still in the wrong spot because it’s as you said, “stuck in the workflow of the kitchen”😢
I think the pocket door idea would help too. It might make the pantry a little easier to access due to its less then ideal location. One thing I've done in a closet is just install an actual cabinet pantry. It makes it easier to use overall, so that might be an option too.
Love that idea @@MTKDofficial thank you!
How wide is too wide for a pantry cabinet? I was planning for two 27" or 30" full height pantries...would those pull outs be too big to be manageable?
Hate pullouts that also have a door that you have to open first. Generally when accessing panties is your hands are full so opening a door and then pulling out a shelf is not convenient.
I HATE a pull out pantry with a wire base and no individual drawers- ❌❌❌Also hate a corner cupboard with a 3/4 lazy Susan. Dear god, beam me up Scotty!!
Don't build appliances such as the microwave or oven into your pantry if you can avoid it. Heat and steam are the enemies of shelf-stable stored foods. If you have to fit appliances there, at least make it something like your electric mixer that isn't releasing heat and steam into your stored foods. Even the fridge isn't a good neighbour for the pantry because of the amount of heat it releases.
Or over a major forced air heat plenum. Even just that heat indirectly heating my pantry is too much.
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Not gonna lie the advice to use hardware in these pantries seems wrong to me, maybe the example clips were just awful but each one seemed horribly wasteful with space.
Honestly all examples would of just benefitted much more from either unifying the space into a larger than standard or double sized cabinet and giving a couple inches more clearance over the top to just be able to see and reach in or maybe using a larder style door with slightly shallower shelving and contained shelves in the doors.
People who put their microwave oven in a pantry behind doors must not use it very much. That seems so impractical.
Our kitchen pantry was designed and built under the stairs. This design allowed for long pull out drawers featuring the length and depth of the steps . Wonderful storage for all the small appliances that you do not use everyday. hidden panelled doors looks like a decorative wall . This was custom make cabinetry but so worth it .!!
You skipped a step-in closet pantry, but maybe you consider that a "room" because it has framed walls with installed shelves instead of cabinetry. The closet door may or may not offer additional storage. I tend to think of a pantry "room" as a space large enough for cabinetry and/or counter space, and a pantry closet as lacking those 2 elements.
I wish that say at 7:30 - you'd show me what you're talking about
I'm thinking of a walk in pantry design that fits my family. We love our pebble/nugget ice, and our countertop ice machine. It's reliable, but an eyesore on the counter. It's also very heavy and needs to be next to the sink for drainage and cleaning. So in my future pantry, I'd need at least a small sink and small counter top. Additionally, I 've always found that having a second fridge (particularly around the holidays) is a god-send. But I'm wondering if it's wise to keep appliances that put off heat in a closed-off space with the food stores. Would you recommend planning on a minimum size so that this is doable? Should I plan on a window or fan or transom on the door for ventilation? Or just put the second fridge elsewhere, like the garage? Thank you!
I see you touched on it a bit in your streamed walk in pantry video! sorry for not investigating first!
I have a walk in pantry with 2nd fridge, always have my extra ingridnets when I buy bulk, my pantry has vent and lots shelves space, don‘t have counter space or sink, i have many baskets with labels to organized it, shelves for all small appliances . I would ’t have another house without walk in pantry and 2nd fridge. i love it.