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The "XX System": How MI5 Made Fools of the Nazis
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- Опубліковано 12 лис 2023
- Uncover the astonishing tale of WWII's most ingenious maneuver in our latest video! From British spies turning Nazis into assets to the elaborate Operation Fortitude, witness the deception that changed history. Don't miss this captivating journey into the world of espionage!
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Agent Garbo... the highest decorated agent on both the Axis side and Allied side. He was one heck of a character.
underrated comment. he fooled tf out the nazis .
@@thatsnaya7575 so good even the British had trouble finding him after the war
Iron Cross 1st Class and an MBE. His story is insane
"MI5's very real reliance on puns" sounds like a fantastic topic for a Today I Found Out video.
I would definitely watch that 😆
But Simon isn’t doing that channel anymore! So, how about an end into the shadows?
@@BallisticDamagestoo bad that isn't a channel Simon hosts anymore. It would make a better Brain Blaze anyway.
@@vickiewallace415nah, Brain Blaze. Gotta have the unhinged rants and tangents on that one.
I mean, the Brits have always had a love of wordplay.
I have a book on Agent Garbo, his life and work are fascinating, the XX system didn't merely manage the double agents but helped them to fabricate and 'manage' whole networks of imaginary informants, providing scraps of fake intel such as falsified sightings of ships in docks, troop movements, "the newspapers say General Adams is inspecting several regiments in Portsmouth" etc. Characters had to be carefully kept on-script and little pieces of life drama like deaths, marriages, etc were woven into an almost soap opera narrative which was then fed to the Nazi's hungry intelligence apparatus.
I would recommend read 'Es muss nicht immer Kaviar sein'.
Great ready and history!
@@sebastiend.5335 I enjoyed that book.
@@andrewallen9993 Nice!
The best thing about Garbo is the British didn't want him at first, so he became a Nazi agent and then went back. They then took him on as he had something to offer. He was that desperate to help he became a Nazi spy.
The year is 2024. Simon Whistler is 65% of youtube.
If anyone here is interested in a deeper dive on some of the individual spies that were part of this and other WWII capers, I wholeheartedly recommend the Spies and Ties series by Timeghost History, makers of the World War Two Week by Week series. They're a great way of getting a bit more detail on some of these crazy events.
I once saw drawings of a lot of the ideas put forward that were rejected in the end and my absolute favourite and extremely British was a sketch of a man sitting on a deck chair sunbathing but this deckchair was on stilts in deep water to make it look shallow the idea being that the German landing craft would let all the soldiers out too early where they would sink, I believe the flaw was along the lines of who in their right mind would be sitting on a deckchair with a knotted hanky on their head in the midst of a full on invasion.
I cannot remember where I saw these sketches and after this video reminded me I even went on a brief Google search but could not find anything if anyone knows where I can find them please let me know.
The idea was to fool interpreters of reconnaissance photographs.
@@davidelliott5843 That makes so much sense
The sheer level of genius that British secret intelligence had with tradecraft always boggles my mind, they were mostly 4 steps ahead
Edit for the editor: the audio and video is out of synch
Well I need to apologize to my headphones for calling them shit
I think they fixed it cuz I’m getting it fine?
Lmao, genius or generations of practice?
@@danielcurtis1434it changes part way through
Yes, British Intelligence had some high points during the war. But they also dropped the ball severely at others, like the spies that were sent into occupied France. For example; Despite using code words that indicated capture the British just assumed the radio operator was being careless.
I need a video about MI5's extensive and very very real reliance on puns
A follow up video about what happened to the double agents post-war would be interesting.
Probably they either were allowed to citizenship....or sorts (Brits are subjects, not citizens) or were allowed to return home.
Bletchley Park's breaking of the Enigma Code was also hugely important to shortening WWII by several years. An enormous debt is owed to British Intelligence in general.
And by British Intelligence to the Polish codebreakers for their work on Enigma that was the foundation for the Beitush codebreakers
Absolutely fantastic video, now begins my journey to see just how much of an effect spies had in WW2, always assumed they played a huge role but never knew any specifics
Safe to say I was amazed! The course of the Second World War in Europe really was guided by their diligent work and the sacrifices of the soldiers and the spies alike to defeat the Third Reich
Many thanks to you Simon and the Into the Shadows team
Its harder to spy in wartime.
Funny you should post this after I recently started reading Defence of the Realm. Highly recommend for those interested in the history of British intelligence.
1:20 - Chapter 1 - The backdrop
4:50 - Chapter 2 - Learning the hard way
10:05 - Chapter 3 - Spycraft & tactics
14:35 - Chapter 4 - Operation fortitude
18:35 - Chapter 5 - V1 ; V2 & VE Day
Simon can we get a pin? 📍
Hey Simon and your team. I don't usually comment on your videos. Just wanted to thank you for your videos on Pilocki, the Polish soldier who volunteered to infiltrate Auschwitz. I read the book and it was a great experience. Thank you for your extensive research.
I can't seem to find a video from Simon on Pilocki, do you know what channel it was on?
@@evanblake5252 Warographics. Episode about Inmate 4859
@@Chris18o0 Thanks.
My family emigrated to the US from Poland in the 30s (for obvious reasons) and I’d sadly never heard of him. Always makes me proud to learn about people like Pilecki and Wyszyński.
Simon, I love you and your team's content and infotainment so much, whenever you upload I watch ASAP. I know I am just a dorky college student, but one day I wish to write a script for your series on diseases (kind of a dream haha don't judge me). Just wanted to express my gratitude :) wishing you and your family good health
I wish this video was twice as long so you could go twice as deep Simon. Absolutely fascinating. Also, please do a Blaze on the puns 😂
I just finished binging the "internets biggest mysteries" videos where Kevin (pretty sure it's Kevin, maybe Danny?) writes several stories and leaves it to Simon to decide whether or not it's true. Based on time between the other releases, should be time for another one soon! Fingers crossed, I love that format, commission it Factboi 😂
Yup that is kevin, great series and hope we get more soon.
That would have been on the BrainBlaze channel.
@@danielriley7380pretty sure it's on decoding the unknown
the vibes on your videos are something else, keep it up man
I’m guessing you name’s Peter
@@theblackgreninja2237 i aint no family guy, its closer to thunder/thor but its not thor...scandinavia dont got alot to name you after so big bang it is
Can you please do a story on Nancy Wake who the germans named The White Mouse. She was so revered as a resistance fighter she was awarded medals of honour from 5 different Allied countries, thanks.
11:00 Alright Brain Boy, no worries.
As long as you know that you now have to assign the story of MI5's puns to someone in the basement...lol
This would make a great movie, not just a documentary with a narrative voice, and not with the "Hollywood" embellishment and changing the facts for ticket sales, but a true portrayal of the what we really know is the story. Thank you again Simon for such informative and interesting content
And I think this is where the epic James bond movies came from.
And Simon should be the the producer of course.
Been done several times since the end of WW2
Great video as always and bring on the MI-5 puns
For more info, the World War 2 - channel has an entire show based on espionage during WW2 called Spies and Ties. Very educational and funny.
Am a patreon there. Excellent recommendation
@@archstanton6102 Another recommendation is the podcast World's Greatest Con. They did a season/5 episodes on operation Mincemeat and the 20 committee.
I went on a tour of Bletchley Park, definitely recommended.
The tour guide explained the XX system, X was a spy and XX was a Double Agent, and this led to the term Double Cross, XX
XXX, was the shop next door.
XXXX is an Australian beer. They know their priorities.
Please do a video on Garbo. It’s an insane story.
Going from the Blaze to Into the Shadows and seeing the quality increase and the production value increase I'd have to say good on you Simon. My wife asked if this was 60 minutes and I yelled "Right Peter!" She was not amused.
You should tell the story (also from XX) on how a dog nearly brought down D-Day. (Ben Mcintyre's book, XX is also a good read for those who want more on the D-Day part of the story)
You will find the true story of the dog, Babs, in Peter Winnington's biography "Codename Treasure: the life of D-Day Spy Lily Segueiew", published in July 2023.
It's amazing this guy knows everything about everything.
I DEMAND THE MI5 PUNS EPISODE!!
Excellent presentation. Thank you.
This historical mission should be adapted into movie or television show.
Loved this one ❤
All jokes aside
Very interesting presentation Simon & co.❤
I want to see a video about this reliance on puns.
This needs to be a movie.
1:28 Simon this is how conspiracies are started 😂 leave me and my vibes be
Thanks for the good & informative show.I asked for espionage to be featured & I kind of got it.
Awesome . Haven’t heard a lot about this
Absolutely mind-boggling how complex the operation was.
Nice one.
Thnx for your work im in all of your channels
Evan - I’m swooning, well researched & eloquently written. Simon: thanks for slowing down your pace: taking in information when it’s at the speed of a G&S patter song is frustrating. I really appreciate & enjoy your content. Cheers from Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada 🇨🇦
The head of German intelligence (the adbver) was a man called Wilhelm Canaris. He was working against the Nazis for most of the war in till caught very late on and died in a concentration camp. Hats off to him
"Bending the gun backward" LOL! Best analogy I've heard for a long time! 😂😂
Thoroughly enjoyed this video. Like Simon said there is mountains of information and stories surrounding the intelligence services during WWII. For example, I believe Agent ZigZag (briefly mentioned in this video) ix the only person to ever be awarded both the Victoria Medal AND the Iron Cross! Would it be possible for Simon to do a greater length/in-depth video about this fascinating subject? I gave several books on the subject and would be happy to support with research
Am I right Peter???
I love when TangentBoi gets a wee Brain Blaze reference into his grown up channels
Some AV async is going on here in the 2nd part of this video. Looks the video is a few miliseconds behind the audio😅
last time I was this early, it was World War II
the underlying message of History when it comes to Britain, is do not underestimate them.
You are very good at what you do
Reading Walter Schellenburg's autobiography as head of the SD he recruited forgers to make superb British banknotes and deceiving the British that his operation was in fact Free French resistance, paid for RAF airdrops of especially explosives which he admitted were far better than those of the Germans. Paying for them in forged banknotes...his enthusiasm, humour and sheer professionalism, loving his work shines through. One thinks of the Mad cartoon strip 'Spy versus Spy versus Spy'.
These videos are pretty interesting
1:30 Dang, Brain Boy...
It's starting to feel personal...😂
Fascinating!
Hell yeah. More spy videos!!!!
Double Cross: The True Story of The D-Day Spies by Ben Macintyre is the much more detailed story of this story well worth a read/listen and have done on many occasions
I also highly recommend another book by Ben Macintyre, _Agent Zigzag_. While the book is primarily about Eddie Chapman (the titular Agent Zigzag, second only to Agent Garbo as the most successful British double agent during WW2), it does briefly mention the XX system.
At 13:44 there are single engined jet bombers ? In WW2 ?
Funny use of that Wayne Gretzky footage
This might be the most upbeat Into the Shadows video to date.
Simon, can you do a Megaprojects on the history of computing devices or computers, and did it start with the Bronze Goddaces and the Enigma Machines?
That vibe shade 😂
The audio went out of sync towards the end of the video
The theme tune for 007 kept creeping in my mind while watching this
If you want to know more about the XX Program, read Masterman's book called "The Double Cross System". This was actually a Government report but it was so good and so interesting that it was published as a book. Easily findable even today.
Love the series, note to the editor; there is alot of screen flash fairly frequent making watching uncomfortable. I am talking about the transition with "old film style" from scene to scene. I made this a podcast witch is a bit of a shame of all the editing work done.
The lipsync in the second half of the video is pretty dodgy too...
I always watch Simon's channels as podcasts. Works really well.
Now that I saw this comment I can’t stop noticing the flashes lol.
There’s some very good books about the agents of ww2. Agent ZigZag (real name Eddie Chapman) and Agent Garbo by Ben McIntyre are well worth a read.
Peter finally gets a shout out @1:25
19:28 What I recall from my reading into XX was how agents fedback information that V1s were landing short. Which lead the Nazis to shift aiming point ... beyond central London.
You should do Alan Turing next..
Ah, good ol' Peter. He's always around for the vibe - AM I RIGHT, PETER???
I keep thinking I’ve hit the 2X tab when listening to Simon.
This is the earliest I’ve ever been 😳
How about an into the shadows with MI five puns please!
Brain blaze topic : Puns from the M15
I will now be reading a book or 2 about this operstion.
Can there be a video on mi5’s extensive use of puns?
that caught me so off guard lol, my name is peter 🤣
Excuse me but my name is Peter and you caught me off guard 😆😆😆
My name is Peter, and I know stuff about World War 2, but I still love the vibes :)
Diplomatic immunity😅
Poor Peter... 😂 Ge gets dunked on so much.
Peter is just here for the vibes 😂
the 20 communities - Project mincemeat - was just fascinating to hear about..
How many channels does this guy actually run??
Neat.
It can't be stated enough, that the intelligence services play such key roles in all conflicts, just look at Israel currently. Simon: please ask your competent team of writers to do more deep dives into intelligence operations and their successes or failures throughout modern history. Your teams writes these videos very well.
Bloody hell early only a few channels Remind me
The United States had the OSS in Europe as well. Mrs McMillan was our lady in Lisbon who coordinated operations. Her husband was a PBY pilot who was on hand for inserting and retrieving agents. Mr Stewart made interesting gadgets for threm to use. People like Marlene Dietrich were among their agents and, in-so-far as the American Ornithologist James Bond was involved - and he was involved in some way, according to Queen Elizibeth II - it would have been through this group.
You didn’t tell them why he was called “Tricycle”. 😂. Too spicy?
Last time i was this early WWIII hadn't started yet.
The audio and video are slightly out of sync.
You should tell the story of how the search for Mrs Fergusons tea set led to the greatest single defeat in British Military history (according to Churchill). Or the tale of the Reinhard Gehlen , Project Lena and the Max Network. How these NKVD run XX intelligence operations made Gehlen's reputation and helped him (and the NKVD/KGB) reach the top of post war West German intelligence till 1968. Have you done Adolf Tolkachev yet, or "Steaknife"/Freddie Scappaticci?
I am here for the vibes
Thanks for sharing. Who is Peter???
1 minute 30 seconds in and Simons already taking shots. AM I RIGHT PETER!!!! 🤣
Edit: Anyone willing to ride that Tangent train across the Whistler-verse to find out why he picked out that specific name? What did Peter do to our beloved Facts Boy?
IIRC, Allied Intelligence had General George Patton proclaimed as head of the Third Allied Army which, was due to land on the beaches of Calais on 09/06/1944. This is another reason the Nazi's held one or two armored divisions in reserve in Northern France. One of the most successful agents associated with XX (not sure whom) operated out of Madrid. Weeks before VE day he received an Iron Cross in the post for his sacrifice and service.
For a minute, there, I thought I was listening to Sparty, Indy, and Ingrid!
Chefs kiss for that thumbnail
Quite fitting that "Snow" was an informer...
Simon, the researchers, and writers are doing a great job.
Sadly cannot say the same thing for whoever is selecting the video clips. If they can’t do better than this - constantly using modern video for events that happened eighty years ago - just skip the video entirely.