I found your chanel yesterday and quickly realize this is what I need to improve my skills. Your tutorials are neat, simple and understandable with enough talking (I don't like the other with too much talking and lack of tips/demonstration). Thank you.
I downloaded this video, burnt it to a DVD, and watch it on my flat screen. It is such a fun shot to hit. When the ball is low and in front of my knees it is possible to hit a ball which stays low and kicks to the opponents right and unexpectedly jumps out of his anticipated strike zone. I always get a little chuckle from this shot. Thanks for the great video.
Hey, can you do a video that explains your slice vs how it was done by someone like Arthur Ashe and Rod Laver? I'm wondering what the fundamental difference is. Is it just swing path? Or is it that your elbow is sort of going across for horizontal speed and theirs is not? Thanks so much.
Nice instruction ; lot of comments on angle of face of the racket actually there are no hard and fast rules it is all about 4 things i.e. trajectory , pace ,height of the incoming ball and finally where you wish to land the slice . Say if someone has hit a pretty fast and deep shot on your backhand corner such that even if you step in the ball is near chest high or higher then if you decide to go down the line it will become a low percentage shot or weaker unless you decide to improvise and play a drop in which case your racket face has to open up , however if you decide to go cross court you can be slightly aggressive and make contact in front of your body and try to get the ball to travel from contact point down to the area where you want slice to land the racket face in such cases will be almost vertical or even slightly downward facing if the ball is too high . Remember in either case time window and slot for right point of contact is very very small . Now if the incoming ball is a sort of a neutral shot that has not much pop then one can be aggressive with the slice and both down the line and cross-court options are relatively high percentage shots which one you choose can then depend on opponent's position and weakness/strengths and of course which comes more natural to you , here too your racket face will be pretty close to vertical like the instructor has shown in this video. The scenario where I see need to open the face is when incoming shot is lets say within a feet or less from the baseline and you like to play on the baseline , in such a case you are now having to slice a ball on the 'rise' and at a point in space which is still lower than the height of the net (remember this is because you are on baseline and point of contact has to be in front of you) in such a case the racket face will have to be opened up and power reduced to prevent the ball from floating out; in short 'slice' is all about the feel.
Hola Ramoncito "Mack the Knife-Slice"...tip top video and very well explained the moves and preparations...congrats. A great weapon for your arsenal and a very effective shot to get you out of trouble. At my club here in Suisse they call me: Mister Slice, I got a Ph.D in slicing, it was our favorite weapon in the 60s...thanks for refreshing our memory with this excellent tutorial, same as your complete catalog. About your crush on Roger, don't worry, we won't tell Mirka and the señora Osa, hahahaha.....salud compadre
Great video. What I find (as a coach) problematic is to learn students is to hold ther head sidsvays long enough .They forget it all the time.Bedst regards from Olaf coach Copenhagen
Great video Ramon. I play a guy who slices everything (I call him "the butcher") and all his slices land on or before the service line, which forces me to play around "no-man's land." How would you recommend approaching a player who never hits with top-spin and only slices?
Thanks man... ahhh the Butcher... he seems to show up pretty regularly on the old tennis courts... You have a few options... and I'll make a video about this in the future... but for now, if you're confident in your net game... take his short slices and see if you can come in on him and make him try to pass you. The other option, depending on your ability to dictate the point with your groundstrokes is move him around and get him to miss... You can also bring HIM with a short ball of your own Personally, I'd be looking for opportunities to come in on the short ball, and cheat if necessary ;)
When I have tried the Federer follow through in the past instead of finishing more in front of my body like I normally do, I get too much sidespin, any tips to avoid this mistake
I notice that your shadow swing is completely different than your actual swing when you are hitting a ball. When you shadow swing you take the racquet out toward the target in an old school fashion (airing the armpit). However, when you actually hit a ball the racquet swing is more parallel to the baseline in a pendulum swing like Roger Federer's slice (new school).
Great observation, Michael! And thank you for likening a part of my game to Federer. That may be the first and only time that happens. I'll think about that for the next video!
+Michael- yes! and i've seen many teaching pros shadow this same way AND use the phrase, "like skimming a sliver of butter", but THEY don't actually produce it that way. i observed this while learning the slice, but being a beginner, i followed what my pro and fellow slicers told me and it yielded an inconsistent, floaty ball. it was 2yrs later that i learned i was hitting it incorrectly w/ that open face AND incorrect "skimming" swing path. for beginners, (non-Fed regular type) the face needs to be close to vertical, and the swing should move INTO the ball (elbow awaaaay from the ribs, NOT chopping down near them), as if u were almost going to hit an old school flat bkhand drive. if ur elbow has a lot of bend.....u're chopping and not swinging ;) good luck!
Wow you really demonstrate a great slice like Federer but like many comments indicate below when you do a shadow slice it is old school. But my question is can you further explain concepts on how to make contact at the 45 degree line. For someone who is older brought up on old school concepts this 45 degree angle is difficult to get my mind around. On the forehand it appears the hips lines up on the 45 line but as part of stroke they open up before contact, while the head, arm and shoulder hold the 45 line at contact and then of course rotate around as part of finish. On backhand slice it looks like hips also hold the 45 degree line at contact? Am I way off base??
why when you just drop a ball and hit a forehand or backhand the stroke is better than when you rally is that due to the position or height of the dropped ball?
Great question Stuart... and the short answer is it depends. It could have something to do with recognizing the oncoming ball early enough, so you're in perfect position to hit it...
So, Ramon, shoulder high ball coming to your backhand side at the baseline, e.g. kick serve. I hate this shot. Do you try topspin, backspin, flat, or step into the ball's path and brush across the ball from left to right. None of these shots is easy for me, but I have been experimenting with the last. Please help. What do you think?
Hey Michael... the short answer is, it depends! Depends on 1. What shot you're most confident in 2. Where you are on the court 3. What gives your opponent the most problems 4. Conditions... and more other actors... If I were you, I'd practice each of them independently with total focus on the process... the fundamentals... master them, and then deploy them as you see fit on your unsuspecting opponent!
I would say use the slice, Michael... and ask your opponent "ya feeling' lucky, punk?" in-between service games. Guaranteed to win a few more points that way :).
OK, but as a infamous philosopher (Dirty Harry) once said, "A man should know his limitations." Even Pistol Pete had problems with this shot. Like most men I am monophasic. I can only really focus on one at a time. What is the best shot to focus on, assuming that it is a return of a kick serve from near the baseline?
At 3.14 you start to demonstrate the slice and not doing the same as you did in a real slice !! You showed a few magnificent slices where your arm finished parallel with the baseline which is perfect like Federer . So if you demonstrate be sure to do it Wright , for the rest a good video
Thanks give me some good advices、 with it. Actually it,s nice to get better to do slice , hit net higher or middle of net and get try to make them above Now I can do them various slice make , thanks
I found your chanel yesterday and quickly realize this is what I need to improve my skills. Your tutorials are neat, simple and understandable with enough talking (I don't like the other with too much talking and lack of tips/demonstration). Thank you.
Cool An! Glad they're helping you
Yes, truely a slice for life(particularly in doubles). The slice has kept me in many a match. Thanks for showing it off
so awesomely.
I downloaded this video, burnt it to a DVD, and watch it on my flat screen. It is such a fun shot to hit. When the ball is low and in front of my knees it is possible to hit a ball which stays low and kicks to the opponents right and unexpectedly jumps out of his anticipated strike zone. I always get a little chuckle from this shot. Thanks for the great video.
Awesome, Michael! You and me both ;)
Finally a channel that account helps my game!!!😀😀😀
Glad to hear that Pragalv. What other videos would help your game?
Thanks for another great video and for your enthusiasm and dedication.
Very Nice Court !! I like the Wrigley Field Touch (ivy on fence)
another great vid. *Keep your head still* I think you just saved me hundreds of hours
Thanks Collins... glad to help!
I loved the video it helped me in my backhand slice
Glad it helped you S!
Hey, can you do a video that explains your slice vs how it was done by someone like Arthur Ashe and Rod Laver? I'm wondering what the fundamental difference is. Is it just swing path? Or is it that your elbow is sort of going across for horizontal speed and theirs is not? Thanks so much.
Hi Ramon, thanks for your video's any video's for the dropshot with sidespin?
Another great video !!
Nice instruction ; lot of comments on angle of face of the racket actually there are no hard and fast rules it is all about 4 things i.e. trajectory , pace ,height of the incoming ball and finally where you wish to land the slice . Say if someone has hit a pretty fast and deep shot on your backhand corner such that even if you step in the ball is near chest high or higher then if you decide to go down the line it will become a low percentage shot or weaker unless you decide to improvise and play a drop in which case your racket face has to open up , however if you decide to go cross court you can be slightly aggressive and make contact in front of your body and try to get the ball to travel from contact point down to the area where you want slice to land the racket face in such cases will be almost vertical or even slightly downward facing if the ball is too high . Remember in either case time window and slot for right point of contact is very very small . Now if the incoming ball is a sort of a neutral shot that has not much pop then one can be aggressive with the slice and both down the line and cross-court options are relatively high percentage shots which one you choose can then depend on opponent's position and weakness/strengths and of course which comes more natural to you , here too your racket face will be pretty close to vertical like the instructor has shown in this video. The scenario where I see need to open the face is when incoming shot is lets say within a feet or less from the baseline and you like to play on the baseline , in such a case you are now having to slice a ball on the 'rise' and at a point in space which is still lower than the height of the net (remember this is because you are on baseline and point of contact has to be in front of you) in such a case the racket face will have to be opened up and power reduced to prevent the ball from floating out; in short 'slice' is all about the feel.
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Hola Ramoncito "Mack the Knife-Slice"...tip top video and very well explained the moves and preparations...congrats. A great weapon for your arsenal and a very effective shot to get you out of trouble. At my club here in Suisse they call me: Mister Slice, I got a Ph.D in slicing, it was our favorite weapon in the 60s...thanks for refreshing our memory with this excellent tutorial, same as your complete catalog. About your crush on Roger, don't worry, we won't tell Mirka and the señora Osa, hahahaha.....salud compadre
Erny, thank you! I'm glad my secret is "safe" with you. lol!!!
Great video. What I find (as a coach) problematic is to learn students is to hold ther head sidsvays long enough .They forget it all the time.Bedst regards from Olaf coach Copenhagen
good video!
Great video and also quite funny (for an American...)
Great video Ramon. I play a guy who slices everything (I call him "the butcher") and all his slices land on or before the service line, which forces me to play around "no-man's land." How would you recommend approaching a player who never hits with top-spin and only slices?
Thanks man... ahhh the Butcher... he seems to show up pretty regularly on the old tennis courts...
You have a few options... and I'll make a video about this in the future... but for now, if you're confident in your net game... take his short slices and see if you can come in on him and make him try to pass you.
The other option, depending on your ability to dictate the point with your groundstrokes is move him around and get him to miss...
You can also bring HIM with a short ball of your own
Personally, I'd be looking for opportunities to come in on the short ball, and cheat if necessary ;)
Love it, thanks
Thanks, Kon. You're welcome :)
When I have tried the Federer follow through in the past instead of finishing more in front of my body like I normally do, I get too much sidespin, any tips to avoid this mistake
I notice that your shadow swing is completely different than your actual swing when you are hitting a ball. When you shadow swing you take the racquet out toward the target in an old school fashion (airing the armpit). However, when you actually hit a ball the racquet swing is more parallel to the baseline in a pendulum swing like Roger Federer's slice (new school).
Great observation, Michael! And thank you for likening a part of my game to Federer. That may be the first and only time that happens. I'll think about that for the next video!
+Michael- yes! and i've seen many teaching pros shadow this same way AND use the phrase, "like skimming a sliver of butter", but THEY don't actually produce it that way. i observed this while learning the slice, but being a beginner, i followed what my pro and fellow slicers told me and it yielded an inconsistent, floaty ball. it was 2yrs later that i learned i was hitting it incorrectly w/ that open face AND incorrect "skimming" swing path. for beginners, (non-Fed regular type) the face needs to be close to vertical, and the swing should move INTO the ball (elbow awaaaay from the ribs, NOT chopping down near them), as if u were almost going to hit an old school flat bkhand drive. if ur elbow has a lot of bend.....u're chopping and not swinging ;) good luck!
Federer way is pulling the racquet across really hard
Hi ramon I am tall (1m94) and sliced ball hurt me a lot. Can you make a video to show how to return those shot.
Chess... what grip(s) do you use?
Wow you really demonstrate a great slice like Federer but like many comments indicate below when you do a shadow slice it is old school. But my question is can you further explain concepts on how to make contact at the 45 degree line. For someone who is older brought up on old school concepts this 45 degree angle is difficult to get my mind around. On the forehand it appears the hips lines up on the 45 line but as part of stroke they open up before contact, while the head, arm and shoulder hold the 45 line at contact and then of course rotate around as part of finish. On backhand slice it looks like hips also hold the 45 degree line at contact? Am I way off base??
100% correct Stephen
Hey Ramon congrats body you are so funny and a great profesor like we say ;-)
Thanks Xavier!
why when you just drop a ball and hit a forehand or backhand the stroke is better than when you rally is that due to the position or height of the dropped ball?
Great question Stuart... and the short answer is it depends. It could have something to do with recognizing the oncoming ball early enough, so you're in perfect position to hit it...
Excellent video!!! Xxx
Thanks!
I would like to see a video on How to play like Roger Federer
Praglav, check out my newest video! ua-cam.com/video/abfPM9iv--c/v-deo.html
I pull the racquet really hard to the right. I learned that from Oscar wegner.
Awesome, man!
very good :)
Beautiful court! Where is this?
A bit much with the "call me" bit.
Thanks Bonham! It's a friends house in Los Angeles
So, Ramon, shoulder high ball coming to your backhand side at the baseline, e.g. kick serve. I hate this shot. Do you try topspin, backspin, flat, or step into the ball's path and brush across the ball from left to right. None of these shots is easy for me, but I have been experimenting with the last. Please help. What do you think?
Hey Michael... the short answer is, it depends! Depends on 1. What shot you're most confident in 2. Where you are on the court 3. What gives your opponent the most problems 4. Conditions... and more other actors... If I were you, I'd practice each of them independently with total focus on the process... the fundamentals... master them, and then deploy them as you see fit on your unsuspecting opponent!
I would say use the slice, Michael... and ask your opponent "ya feeling' lucky, punk?" in-between service games. Guaranteed to win a few more points that way :).
OK, but as a infamous philosopher (Dirty Harry) once said, "A man should know his limitations." Even Pistol Pete had problems with this shot. Like most men I am monophasic. I can only really focus on one at a time. What is the best shot to focus on, assuming that it is a return of a kick serve from near the baseline?
Thanks a lot Ramon. I just spit coffee all over my keyboard.
hahaha Roger call me :) so funny this video!
:)
good video funny guy
At 3.14 you start to demonstrate the slice and not doing the same as you did in a real slice !!
You showed a few magnificent slices where your arm finished parallel with the baseline which is perfect like Federer . So if you demonstrate be sure to do it Wright , for the rest a good video
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entertaining haha
:)
And the last point is to maintain the L-shape on ur wrist after hitting the slice.
Dileep, correct. That will come in another video
Thanks give me some good advices、 with it. Actually it,s nice to
get better to do slice , hit net higher or middle of net and get try to make them above
Now I can do them various slice make , thanks
You're welcome!
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