Completely although this is all with hindsight- very understandable that he didn’t want to commit too much to a pretty needless mission that he had t even wanted to carry out
@@Jeffybonbon I'm not too sure. But one man was accused of being a spy so they tied him to a post outside and interrogated him. An argentine officer actually wanted to start killing hostages to stop the British from taking goose green but they couldn't because if they killed the hostages they would be decimated by the British
Thanks for your support back then Ken. My dad was in the Falklands war with the Royal Marines and thankfully survived. I was only 5 years old at the time and barely remember it apart from my dad not being at home for a good few months.
I recall the war, I was in high school, 10th grade. My one uncle was in the US Marine Corps during WW2, Korea and Vietnam. He watched the news every night just to see how the British Marines were doing. He felt as though they were like the cousins of the US Marines. When he heard about the charge against Goose green, he said “That’s it, this war is over. No one in Argentina can stop it now”! It’s like he felt the pride of that unit when their C.O. fell and how resolute they were when you take out a leader. At the time I didn’t understand what he meant. It wasn’t until I joined the Marine Corps in January of 1985, that I realized what he meant. The pride of being a small part of a unit, a part of something more important than yourself. Thanks for sharing this video and best of luck 🍀to you and your family ❤ 🇺🇸🦅🌎⚓️🇺🇸
A friend of mine was in 2 para, he doesn’t like to speak about it, but he knows I’m a military history buff so speaks to me (after I buy him a pint) he speaks really highly of him as a person and a leader!
Sunray is a standard position name for any rank of commander. It means 'commander'. So a lieutenant or a general can be called sunray. This is a result of the UK fixed callsign system. For instance, the QM or equivalent logistics rank is 'squirrel'. There are many position callsigns.
The book, “Not mentioned in Dispatches” is the most honest analysis of Goose Green. Jones’ orders were exceptionally complicated, and likely unachievable. The book lays out the orders, the confusion and the freedom of maneuver achieved once the plan was disregarded. I walked the ground at Goose Green with every surviving member of 2 Para still serving in 2001. The objective was extremely difficult and equally complicated by the complex orders gin to the battalion. I highly recommend the book if one is interested in a full understanding of both the successes and failures of that mission.
The Gurkhas arrived too late to be involved in any battles... However the fact that they had been despatched to the Falklands was publicised by a Spanish language British radio station aimed at the Argentinian army that mixed entertainment with light propaganda. They spread all sorts of outlandish stories about the savagery of the Gurkhas and the Argentines appear to have believed everything they heard, which damaged their morale.
To me, the real hero of Goose Green was Major Keeble. ...... Instead of going at it gung-ho, shedding the blood of his troops, Keeble took time to think, to meditate, and created a great idea, bluffing the Argentines - who greatly outnumbered them - to surrender. Brilliant! ...... A Thinking Soldier! This had always been my impression right from 1982, but it was strengthened through meeting a man claiming to have been Colonel H's bodyguard, and thus an eyewitness to the very circumstances of H's death. ...... What he said certainly stacked up. ...... As I understand it, H advanced alone across open ground, firing his SMG, and stopped to change magazines, standing like a target on a range - at close range. ...... A barn door. My impression is that H was so concerned the attack was stalling, he tunnel-visioned to the role of a badly-trained Lance-Corporal, and paid the price. ...... A Lieutenant-Colonel should be the overall commander of his entire battalion, not clearing trenches. H's VC action was a very human failing - desperation to get the attack under his command rolling forward - but not heroism in it's real sense. ...... Had H succeeded in clearing trenches, and had the battalion surged forward, taking all before it, then with many, many extra deaths and injuries to both sides, one could see it as heroism, but the barn door was hit, and fell, as was probable. Sergeant McKay's VC was heroism of the very highest order - the function for which the VC was intended.
@Darren Clapson Yes - the battalion took a fair number of casualties, and a VC eased their pain. ...... Had the Argentines been seasoned troops, I think their casualties would have been far higher. Given that Goose Green was a far higher nut to crack than anticipated, plus the lack of available support, or sufficient artillery and mortar ammo, Major Keeble could easily have drawn back, and demanded backup. ...... Getting the Argentines to surrender was pure genius on his part.
The BBC said American sources revealed that U.S. aid to Britain during the war included 200 Sidewinder anti-aircraft missiles, eight Stinger anti-aircraft systems, Vulcan air defense systems, Harpoon anti-ship missiles, mortar shells, satellite intelligence, communications facilities and the use of the American air base on Ascension Islan
All those Generals Admirals staffers strategists and analysts, yet Goose Green is decreed a fortunate success. Sounds more like bravery determination and sacrifice - than just a lucky break.
What a bloke h jones was, his son mush be so proud, there is no better way for a man to go out than in combat against his enemy, brings a tear to my eye
I remember an interview by Brian Hanrahan with a Para after the battle of Goose Green and someone in the background said, what sounded like 'enammer role'. I've always wondered what was said.
Anyone in the Battalion who actually knew Jones knew that he was an intolerant! He prefered to do one thing at a time only. He either made very complicated plans, that could rarely be realistically followed, or he made no plans at all and verbally abused anyone who asked questions regarding what was going on. He verbally abused anyone who offered sensible suggestions. The action which killed him was born of frustration and impotent rage, it did not alter the battle in any way nor change a single thing in the slightest. He was shot in the back from an Argentinian position that he had run past and that he had not spotted. He absolutely did not deserve the VC for that action. The battle was won only by the calm delivery of intelligently applied force under the very capable leadership and direction of Chris Keeble, in concert with the aggression of young Toms channelled by excellent Corporals. That is the truth, that is what really happened. Endex !
This is not the way to speak about the dead. The Paras are a breed apart. The top brass leave them alone to get with stuff, because the job they’re trained for is not what we normal grunts do. I’ve been there ….
One of the worst things about being in the military is when you can plainly see politicians and the hierarchy setting you up to fail. When the hierarchy, that don't care too much about life preservation. Give out orders that trickle down to those you do worry about their lives. On a personal level you need to ask yourself if this is a worthy cause, or your lives are you being used as an expendable pawn. leaving those that love you to ask why. 🤔
@@AtheistOrphan The Gurkha troops did not participate in combat during the re-taking of the Falklands Islands. However they were held in a reserve force.
@@ataxpayer723 They were tasked with taking Mount William and upon approaching it including a delay from Argie Artillery. Mount William surrendered, they chose to surrender to the scots guards because they feared the Ghurkas.
@@MyScubasteve The simple mention of the Ghurkas name was enough to cause less bloodshed. It cannot be understated, one of Britain's greatest allies and asset.
Los usaron de carne de cañón a esos gurkas y literalmente, fueron machacados por la artillería argentina. El soldado que más graves heridas recibió logrando sobrevivir fue un Ghurka
At the end. If you have been affected by any of the subjects in this interview?.......... Ofcourse I have. My eyes are leaking. Pride and rememberance is pouring down my face.
cut out the interview from an eyewitness saying 'he either heard me or ignored me when I said watch your back' - And basically saying that him charging the position was stupid.
Your father will go down in history,he gave his life to save his men and changed the outcome of the war ,RIP to all soldiers who have made the upmost sacrifice,.
Good that the shooting down of the Pucara by a Blowpipe missile was mentioned but it would have been nice if they guy had mentioned that it was a Royal Marine that fired it. Sadly the small contingent of Air Defence Troop Royal Marines seems to have been 'airbrushed' out of the battle in most accounts.
That's probably correct when it comes to most interviews recorded on television. But I would assume the RMs get the credit they deserve in the books written about the battle. "Goose Green: A Battle Is Fought to Be Won" by Mark Adkin is highly recommended.
@@norsetech9416 Will have a read of that. My best mate was a corporal with Air Defence troop at Goose Green so I have heard some of the stories first hand.
Yup fought in less spectacular but equally brutal battles in Angola. I wasn’t at Cueto Carneval when a small South African force inflicted 4400 casualties on invading Cubans. We lost 36. Yanks Chester Crocker injected himself ($ short and day late) to allow Castro to retreat before our boys slaughtered even more. H Jones an awesome leader. My Lt Col Jan Hougaard never got this recognition.
@thegoldeneagle9890 Were they called Scorpion or Scimitar? They had them for the last phase at Port Stanley, but they weren't needed as it all ended abruptly.
This whole thing was dreadful stupidity and only the quality of the servicemen concerned alongside a gallant colonel saved us from disaster. At the outset defenders outnumbered attacker and defenders were reinforced part way through the battle. To attack a position it is rather important to outnumber the defenders, having less attackers then defenders and advancing onto a prepared position….I can say no more.
El video esta extremadamente resumido, los argentinos se rindieron luego de que los Sea Harrier volaron por el buen clima, el mal clima los mantuvo en los portaaviones, despues de 2 dias de batalla extenuante, la tropa argentina recibio un bombardeo directo de los Sea Harrier y fue el fin
Argentina • Didn't exist when the British claimed them • Only ever had a presence on the islands with British permission • Gave up its claim in 1850 and was silent for nearly a century onwards • Started an imperialist war in 1982 • Lost that war Save it.
Have to give the British credit they had to do something and time was not on their side. They did lose a lot of ships and the Royal Air did a fantastic job with their Harriers and the Argentinean Air Force had a lot of good planes. I don’t think the Arginines ever knew just how small the British army was. I do think if the British had left they would have just came back way better equipped and with the correct numbers and the loss of life on both sides would have been high
As a Yank who watched the Falklands War as it transpired every night on our television screens, I was impressed by the bravery and resourcefulness of the Brits. But I couldn't help thinking that if we Yanks had been there, there wouldn't have been a week's long voyage by the Navy to retake it. We would have had two Carrier groups within days of the islands, and been there in no time. Still our British allies were commendable with their courage and fight! Plus, you could see that the Argies just didn't have their heart into it. As a side note, the QE2 stopped in Boston Harbor on the way home, and I was fortunate to visit her
Fair point, Eric, but our last Fleet Carrier was retired 3 years before and we relied on 2 much smaller decks. There was no comparison, then and our victory frightened the Soviets and ensured Cruise Missiles etc etc, in Britain and Regan's heroic face-down (with us) that ensured the end of Cold War One (we know what's next!).
The BBC said American sources revealed that U.S. aid to Britain during the war included 200 Sidewinder anti-aircraft missiles, eight Stinger anti-aircraft systems, Vulcan air defense systems, Harpoon anti-ship missiles, mortar shells, satellite intelligence, communications facilities and the use of the American air base on Ascension Islan
@@kawagonzo6951 Are you certain of your reference to Harpoon missiles - were the Block D1 batch actually manufactured? Yes, Wideawake Airfield was built by the US, during WW2, but was a joint US/UK SIGINT base; the SAS had the Stinger missiles that you referred to and 3 SATCOM kits, but 81mm mortar rounds??
H Jones' actions was stupid. Brave, but still stupid. Charging a machine gun position is not the job of a battalion commander. His death did not save the lives of his men (trying to evacuate him actually caused more fatalities), nor did it change the outcome of the battle. The fact is that the OCs didn't have a high opinion of Jones. He was a hothead with a bad temper.
Why? It was a war and Goose Green served two valuable purposes, first and foremost it showed the Argentinians what was coming and must have hit their morale hard and, secondly, it prevented any counter attack from the well over 1000 troops they had based there.
E C 1200+ troops, artillery & air power. A fascist (real fascists, not Twitter!) Junta were defeated and democracy restored (you're welcome) to a nation that still fails to live up to its potential :(
Gurkhas have indeed,shed river of blood and fought for free access the globe for the expansion and vested interest of the "British Empire". But when the war ended send me GURKHAS empty hand and bare feet back to Nepal. I am former Gurkha and a first Gulf war veteran,when I return from my duty,my British commander Col Shuttle Wood send me packing home back to Nepal. Without any notice and he also wrote very bad report on my AF108;Army certificate. We the GURKHAS have been facing Superior vs Inferior attitude during and after our service is the British army. Gurkhas are still facing family separation and barred from basic voting and human rights abuses 'etc UK government can find millions of pound to supply arms to Ukraine and Israel. But been penny pinching on the plight of the GURKHAS issues '. Staged two hunger strike and submitted another ultimatum letter to Rishi Shunak to stage 3rd mass hunger strike fast unto death and until the justice is done to the GURKHAS. No justice no peace! No justice no vote! Leveling up between pre and post July 97 British GURKHAS! Equal danger equal reward! Say NO to RACISM! Enough is enough! Support the GURKHAS! Ayo Gurkhali/Here comes the GURKHAS!👍✌️🤞✊🙏🇬🇧🇳🇵
All this nostalgia.......the country was in a Financial mess brought on by decades of miss spending, bailouts and helpful hands.(sound familar today)That when 1982 came by, they had to drag junk out of the scrap bin to use, they rushed the harrier into Service. If the argies had gone 6 months later they would have taken it. By that point the scrap would have been scrapped and winter would have set in down on the islands.
@@darrenowen3338 The local winter was approaching, snow was starting to fall, but it wasn't full winter in May-June. For example read up on how they enlarged the airfield at Stanley after the war ended, in full winter...severe conditions.
What junk? The new carriers? The excellent Harriers that we're perfect for the job? Maybe you're referring to the old Vulcan bombers, but even they did the missions they had to do and even set a record for the longest bombing run in history
Makes me really angry watching this, the men should have been given the resources they needed after all they had gone to give there lifes for their country but are let down by top brass as usual..Disgraceful
English fight well but Drive everyone crazy with appearing to do nothing or taking forever to get moving. World War 11 was the same. Montgomery drive Eisenhower out of his mind. Strange that the British special forces were the exact opposite , no hesitation !
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Those conscripts were well supplemented with professionals and held dug in positions on elevated hilly/rocky terrain with sited machine guns, mortars and artillery. Are you saying that the British soldiers, a lot of whom were also only teenagers, weren't also frightened? The British victory in the Falklands War was perhaps the most righteous victory in modern conflict.
In a defensive position you always have the advantage. Can't blame British troops for tackling what they had in front of them, blame the Junta for putting a bunch of kids on that island and keeping loads of real troops to quell opposition at home...
@@fingmoron I don't really buy the whole kids thing. The fighting for the various strategically important positions was intense and the casualties on both sides are indicative of this. The Argentine force on the islands were motivated and believed in victory. They were simply bested by better men.
Fun fact: In 1982 the British had only had 1 year in the previous 100 years where their forces hadn't been in combat somewhere around the world. The experience and training of professional soldiers won over a conscript army.
There were no conscripts at Top Malo. Only Argentine special forces. I could name other strategic places of battle on the islands where there was only Argentine Marines but the list is too long.
@@JammyDodger45 Argentina trying to wipe out a Non-Native species. Kinda like what Putin is doing to Ukraine and already owns a 3rd of It not including Crimea. Getting rid of western back racist imperialist like he did Azov. I'm pleased those Nazi Azov Junkies were defeated. 🤣
LOL. Where are you from? Southern Ireland? USA? Or some other chippy nation with a complex about Britain, perhaps? The Argentines were well equipped to defeat the task force. They had a similar standard infantry rifle, better night vision goggles, super sonic jets, highly sophisticated anti - ship missiles (Exocet), advanced AA capability (Roland/Grail), air-to-air missiles (Matra) and a host of other ordnance and armament. British soldiers, sailors, airmen and marines were fitter, stronger, braver. End of. Go cry a river.
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Another brainwashed individual hijacking an emotive recollection highlighting the anguish, sorrow, jubilation and sadness of a military campaign. RIP to all the military personnel of GB and Argentina who bravely fought and gave the ultimate sacrifice. I still have no idea what "god" has got to do with this article.
The same merciful god who told his followers to kill women and children because they lived in their "promised land" and commanded that you should be stonned to death because you wear mixed fabrics and ate the wrong kind if food
The Candour of Brigadier Thompson on the mistakes he had made was commendable. He knew he’d messed up.
Completely although this is all with hindsight- very understandable that he didn’t want to commit too much to a pretty needless mission that he had t even wanted to carry out
Top brass clueless as per
Truthmedia silenced by the Deep State/MOD and Forces News.
He was blaming himself in hindsight what happened happened no we don’t have a time machine so we can’t change what happened
My family were held captive at goose green. I can never be thankful enough for the British millitary
Why should anyone believe an anonymous liar?
@@MichaelKingsfordGray a liar? Why would I lie about that.
Can I ask did the Argentina troops do any harm to the civilians at GG
@@Jeffybonbon I'm not too sure. But one man was accused of being a spy so they tied him to a post outside and interrogated him. An argentine officer actually wanted to start killing hostages to stop the British from taking goose green but they couldn't because if they killed the hostages they would be decimated by the British
@@MichaelKingsfordGrayI'm not a liar btw
For what is worth as a young male in Canada I cheered your boys on and cared a lot about this war.
Thanks for your support back then Ken. My dad was in the Falklands war with the Royal Marines and thankfully survived. I was only 5 years old at the time and barely remember it apart from my dad not being at home for a good few months.
I recall the war, I was in high school, 10th grade. My one uncle was in the US Marine Corps during WW2, Korea and Vietnam. He watched the news every night just to see how the British Marines were doing. He felt as though they were like the cousins of the US Marines. When he heard about the charge against Goose green, he said “That’s it, this war is over. No one in Argentina can stop it now”! It’s like he felt the pride of that unit when their C.O. fell and how resolute they were when you take out a leader. At the time I didn’t understand what he meant. It wasn’t until I joined the Marine Corps in January of 1985, that I realized what he meant. The pride of being a small part of a unit, a part of something more important than yourself.
Thanks for sharing this video and best of luck 🍀to you and your family ❤
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A friend of mine was in 2 para, he doesn’t like to speak about it, but he knows I’m a military history buff so speaks to me (after I buy him a pint) he speaks really highly of him as a person and a leader!
Make sure you always support him.
Sunray is a standard position name for any rank of commander. It means 'commander'. So a lieutenant or a general can be called sunray. This is a result of the UK fixed callsign system. For instance, the QM or equivalent logistics rank is 'squirrel'. There are many position callsigns.
The book, “Not mentioned in Dispatches” is the most honest analysis of Goose Green. Jones’ orders were exceptionally complicated, and likely unachievable. The book lays out the orders, the confusion and the freedom of maneuver achieved once the plan was disregarded. I walked the ground at Goose Green with every surviving member of 2 Para still serving in 2001. The objective was extremely difficult and equally complicated by the complex orders gin to the battalion. I highly recommend the book if one is interested in a full understanding of both the successes and failures of that mission.
I remember reading in the newspaper that the Argentinan soldiers were terrified of the Gurkhas because they believed they were cannibals.
As someone who has many Gurkha friends, I find this pretty hilarious 😂😂😂
Not relevant to this battle.
The Gurkhas arrived too late to be involved in any battles... However the fact that they had been despatched to the Falklands was publicised by a Spanish language British radio station aimed at the Argentinian army that mixed entertainment with light propaganda. They spread all sorts of outlandish stories about the savagery of the Gurkhas and the Argentines appear to have believed everything they heard, which damaged their morale.
@@benwilson6145 I know. But rumours had already spread throughout the ranks which was one explanation why they surrendered so unexpectedly.
@@garethjudd5840 The Argentine surrender was not unexpected especially once the Brits had occupied all the high ground on the approach to Stanley.
To me, the real hero of Goose Green was Major Keeble. ...... Instead of going at it gung-ho, shedding the blood of his troops, Keeble took time to think, to meditate, and created a great idea, bluffing the Argentines - who greatly outnumbered them - to surrender.
Brilliant! ...... A Thinking Soldier!
This had always been my impression right from 1982, but it was strengthened through meeting a man claiming to have been Colonel H's bodyguard, and thus an eyewitness to the very circumstances of H's death. ...... What he said certainly stacked up. ...... As I understand it, H advanced alone across open ground, firing his SMG, and stopped to change magazines, standing like a target on a range - at close range. ...... A barn door.
My impression is that H was so concerned the attack was stalling, he tunnel-visioned to the role of a badly-trained Lance-Corporal, and paid the price. ...... A Lieutenant-Colonel should be the overall commander of his entire battalion, not clearing trenches.
H's VC action was a very human failing - desperation to get the attack under his command rolling forward - but not heroism in it's real sense. ...... Had H succeeded in clearing trenches, and had the battalion surged forward, taking all before it, then with many, many extra deaths and injuries to both sides, one could see it as heroism, but the barn door was hit, and fell, as was probable.
Sergeant McKay's VC was heroism of the very highest order - the function for which the VC was intended.
@Darren Clapson Yes - the battalion took a fair number of casualties, and a VC eased their pain. ...... Had the Argentines been seasoned troops, I think their casualties would have been far higher.
Given that Goose Green was a far higher nut to crack than anticipated, plus the lack of available support, or sufficient artillery and mortar ammo, Major Keeble could easily have drawn back, and demanded backup. ...... Getting the Argentines to surrender was pure genius on his part.
The BBC said American sources revealed that U.S. aid to Britain during the war included 200 Sidewinder anti-aircraft missiles, eight Stinger anti-aircraft systems, Vulcan air defense systems, Harpoon anti-ship missiles, mortar shells, satellite intelligence, communications facilities and the use of the American air base on Ascension Islan
the candour of several accounts are amazing but why did chris Keeble not get the vc
All those Generals Admirals staffers strategists and analysts, yet Goose Green is decreed a fortunate success.
Sounds more like bravery determination and sacrifice - than just a lucky break.
Great men doing great things.
What a bloke h jones was, his son mush be so proud, there is no better way for a man to go out than in combat against his enemy, brings a tear to my eye
I'd sooner go out in 'combat' with a pair of stacked women, but whatever you want.
“A lot was asked of the boys..but they stood up to the task”…..WARRIORS
I remember an interview by Brian Hanrahan with a Para after the battle of Goose Green and someone in the background said, what sounded like 'enammer role'. I've always wondered what was said.
Sunray is not specific to Col H Jones, the commander of a unit is called Sunray on the radio. It’s like CO or niner (9).
Or Felix for EOD
There is a pub called the 'Colonel H' in Great Yarmouth.
Anyone in the Battalion who actually knew Jones knew that he was an intolerant!
He prefered to do one thing at a time only.
He either made very complicated plans, that could rarely be realistically followed, or he made no plans at all and verbally abused anyone who asked questions regarding what was going on.
He verbally abused anyone who offered sensible suggestions.
The action which killed him was born of frustration and impotent rage, it did not alter the battle in any way nor change a single thing in the slightest. He was shot in the back from an Argentinian position that he had run past and that he had not spotted. He absolutely did not deserve the VC for that action.
The battle was won only by the calm delivery of intelligently applied force under the very capable leadership and direction of Chris Keeble, in concert with the aggression of young Toms channelled by excellent Corporals. That is the truth, that is what really happened. Endex !
This is not the way to speak about the dead. The Paras are a breed apart. The top brass leave them alone to get with stuff, because the job they’re trained for is not what we normal grunts do.
I’ve been there ….
True H Jones acted irresponsibly which not only cost his life, but the men under his command.
One of the worst things about being in the military is when you can plainly see politicians and the hierarchy setting you up to fail.
When the hierarchy, that don't care too much about life preservation. Give out orders that trickle down to those you do worry about their lives. On a personal level you need to ask yourself if this is a worthy cause, or your lives are you being used as an expendable pawn. leaving those that love you to ask why. 🤔
Example?
@@hmq9052 I'm not going into specifics just to create denial..
@@jonathanrussell594 Oh. Ok. That's a shame.
If you join a decent Corps then no one is setting you up to fail.
War:
Old men sending young men to die……
Nepal(Gorkha Soldiers ) help Great Britain to obtain Falkland using Khukuri.
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@@AtheistOrphan The Gurkha troops did not participate in combat during the re-taking of the Falklands Islands. However they were held in a reserve force.
@@ataxpayer723 They were tasked with taking Mount William and upon approaching it including a delay from Argie Artillery. Mount William surrendered, they chose to surrender to the scots guards because they feared the Ghurkas.
@@MyScubasteve The simple mention of the Ghurkas name was enough to cause less bloodshed. It cannot be understated, one of Britain's greatest allies and asset.
Los usaron de carne de cañón a esos gurkas y literalmente, fueron machacados por la artillería argentina. El soldado que más graves heridas recibió logrando sobrevivir fue un Ghurka
Watching Julian Thompson age through the interviews
At the end. If you have been affected by any of the subjects in this interview?.......... Ofcourse I have. My eyes are leaking. Pride and rememberance is pouring down my face.
cut out the interview from an eyewitness saying 'he either heard me or ignored me when I said watch your back' - And basically saying that him charging the position was stupid.
Your father will go down in history,he gave his life to save his men and changed the outcome of the war ,RIP to all soldiers who have made the upmost sacrifice,.
Good that the shooting down of the Pucara by a Blowpipe missile was mentioned but it would have been nice if they guy had mentioned that it was a Royal Marine that fired it. Sadly the small contingent of Air Defence Troop Royal Marines seems to have been 'airbrushed' out of the battle in most accounts.
That's probably correct when it comes to most interviews recorded on television. But I would assume the RMs get the credit they deserve in the books written about the battle. "Goose Green: A Battle Is Fought to Be Won" by Mark Adkin is highly recommended.
@@norsetech9416 Will have a read of that. My best mate was a corporal with Air Defence troop at Goose Green so I have heard some of the stories first hand.
Thompson was right He wanted to avoid GG but was over ruled 3PARA were fantastic Its just a shame it happened the way it did
Yup fought in less spectacular but equally brutal battles in Angola. I wasn’t at Cueto Carneval when a small South African force inflicted 4400 casualties on invading Cubans. We lost 36. Yanks Chester Crocker injected himself ($ short and day late) to allow Castro to retreat before our boys slaughtered even more. H Jones an awesome leader. My Lt Col Jan Hougaard never got this recognition.
lest we forget
Dredful sound track - why do you think it needed it when the story was so compelling?
Imho Steve Illingsworth 2 Para should have been awarded the V.C. also...
After the war commander Thompson was rewarded by the army with an elephant.
Sunray is standard call sign for the commanding officer.
Sunray 2 Para is Lt. Col. Jones.
What light armour was there at the Falklands that 2 para requested for
Light tanks, artillery.
@@paulmckearney4945 what light tanks was the question
@thegoldeneagle9890 I don't remember what they were called but they had a few of them available.
@thegoldeneagle9890 Were they called Scorpion or Scimitar? They had them for the last phase at Port Stanley, but they weren't needed as it all ended abruptly.
@@paulmckearney4945 yeah I know them but did not think it was them still use them you know
This whole thing was dreadful stupidity and only the quality of the servicemen concerned alongside a gallant colonel saved us from disaster. At the outset defenders outnumbered attacker and defenders were reinforced part way through the battle. To attack a position it is rather important to outnumber the defenders, having less attackers then defenders and advancing onto a prepared position….I can say no more.
El video esta extremadamente resumido, los argentinos se rindieron luego de que los Sea Harrier volaron por el buen clima, el mal clima los mantuvo en los portaaviones, despues de 2 dias de batalla extenuante, la tropa argentina recibio un bombardeo directo de los Sea Harrier y fue el fin
Las Malvinas son argentinas..
Volveremos..
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Argentina
• Didn't exist when the British claimed them
• Only ever had a presence on the islands with British permission
• Gave up its claim in 1850 and was silent for nearly a century onwards
• Started an imperialist war in 1982
• Lost that war
Save it.
Have to give the British credit they had to do something and time was not on their side. They did lose a lot of ships and the Royal Air did a fantastic job with their Harriers and the Argentinean Air Force had a lot of good planes. I don’t think the Arginines ever knew just how small the British army was. I do think if the British had left they would have just came back way better equipped and with the correct numbers and the loss of life on both sides would have been high
As a Yank who watched the Falklands War as it transpired every night on our television screens, I was impressed by the bravery and resourcefulness of the Brits. But I couldn't help thinking that if we Yanks had been there, there wouldn't have been a week's long voyage by the Navy to retake it. We would have had two Carrier groups within days of the islands, and been there in no time. Still our British allies were commendable with their courage and fight! Plus, you could see that the Argies just didn't have their heart into it. As a side note, the QE2 stopped in Boston Harbor on the way home, and I was fortunate to visit her
Fair point, Eric, but our last Fleet Carrier was retired 3 years before and we relied on 2 much smaller decks. There was no comparison, then and our victory frightened the Soviets and ensured Cruise Missiles etc etc, in Britain and Regan's heroic face-down (with us) that ensured the end of Cold War One (we know what's next!).
The BBC said American sources revealed that U.S. aid to Britain during the war included 200 Sidewinder anti-aircraft missiles, eight Stinger anti-aircraft systems, Vulcan air defense systems, Harpoon anti-ship missiles, mortar shells, satellite intelligence, communications facilities and the use of the American air base on Ascension Islan
@@kawagonzo6951 Are you certain of your reference to Harpoon missiles - were the Block D1 batch actually manufactured?
Yes, Wideawake Airfield was built by the US, during WW2, but was a joint US/UK SIGINT base; the SAS had the Stinger missiles that you referred to and 3 SATCOM kits, but 81mm mortar rounds??
@@kawagonzo6951 every piece of Argentine hardware and ordnance was American French Belgian and British
Shouldn't "H" have been directing the battle instead of doing a solo banzai attack.
the more i read and watch the more i conclude we were " lucky " to win the war of the faulkland islands
Fortune favours the brave my friend.
H Jones' actions was stupid. Brave, but still stupid. Charging a machine gun position is not the job of a battalion commander. His death did not save the lives of his men (trying to evacuate him actually caused more fatalities), nor did it change the outcome of the battle. The fact is that the OCs didn't have a high opinion of Jones. He was a hothead with a bad temper.
How can it be described as a turning point? Disgraceful that so many were sacrificed for a self governing POW camp because we needed a victory.
Why? It was a war and Goose Green served two valuable purposes, first and foremost it showed the Argentinians what was coming and must have hit their morale hard and, secondly, it prevented any counter attack from the well over 1000 troops they had based there.
E C 1200+ troops, artillery & air power. A fascist (real fascists, not Twitter!) Junta were defeated and democracy restored (you're welcome) to a nation that still fails to live up to its potential :(
Can't imagine Soft lad Boris Johnson having the appetite or balls to do this if it happened today .
I think he's one of the only ones that would.
Disagree I think he would have loved the opportunity.
You’re correct. Bumbling Boris didn’t sort out Northern Ireland. The enemy are still holding it hostage.
Gurkhas have indeed,shed river of blood and fought for free access the globe for the expansion and vested interest of the "British Empire".
But when the war ended send me GURKHAS empty hand and bare feet back to Nepal.
I am former Gurkha and a first Gulf war veteran,when I return from my duty,my British commander Col Shuttle Wood send me packing home back to Nepal.
Without any notice and he also wrote very bad report on my AF108;Army certificate.
We the GURKHAS have been facing Superior vs Inferior attitude during and after our service is the British army.
Gurkhas are still facing family separation and barred from basic voting and human rights abuses 'etc
UK government can find millions of pound to supply arms to Ukraine and Israel.
But been penny pinching on the plight of the GURKHAS issues '.
Staged two hunger strike and submitted another ultimatum letter to Rishi Shunak to stage 3rd mass hunger strike fast unto death and until the justice is done to the GURKHAS.
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Leveling up between pre and post July 97 British GURKHAS!
Equal danger equal reward!
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With the help of gurkha soldiers
Not on this one buddy
They didn't fight at Goose Green...
All this nostalgia.......the country was in a Financial mess brought on by decades of miss spending, bailouts and helpful hands.(sound familar today)That when 1982 came by, they had to drag junk out of the scrap bin to use, they rushed the harrier into Service. If the argies had gone 6 months later they would have taken it. By that point the scrap would have been scrapped and winter would have set in down on the islands.
Rushed the harrier into service? We had them since '69.
The war took place in the local winter. If you don't understand, why do you comment?
@@darrenowen3338 The local winter was approaching, snow was starting to fall, but it wasn't full winter in May-June.
For example read up on how they enlarged the airfield at Stanley after the war ended, in full winter...severe conditions.
What junk? The new carriers? The excellent Harriers that we're perfect for the job? Maybe you're referring to the old Vulcan bombers, but even they did the missions they had to do and even set a record for the longest bombing run in history
Yes but it didn’t take place 6 months later and we won the war so that’s all that matters.
Makes me really angry watching this, the men should have been given the resources they needed after all they had gone to give there lifes for their country but are let down by top brass as usual..Disgraceful
English fight well but Drive everyone crazy with appearing to do nothing or taking forever to get moving. World War 11 was the same. Montgomery drive Eisenhower out of his mind. Strange that the British special forces were the exact opposite , no hesitation !
Montgomery was actually trying to push faster and further, if anything he was held back
What happened to Monica Lewinsky's blue dress ex Pres Bill Clinton creamed on?
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Professional highly trained troops beat terrified teenage conscripts horror.
Those conscripts were well supplemented with professionals and held dug in positions on elevated hilly/rocky terrain with sited machine guns, mortars and artillery. Are you saying that the British soldiers, a lot of whom were also only teenagers, weren't also frightened?
The British victory in the Falklands War was perhaps the most righteous victory in modern conflict.
In a defensive position you always have the advantage. Can't blame British troops for tackling what they had in front of them, blame the Junta for putting a bunch of kids on that island and keeping loads of real troops to quell opposition at home...
@@fingmoron I don't really buy the whole kids thing. The fighting for the various strategically important positions was intense and the casualties on both sides are indicative of this.
The Argentine force on the islands were motivated and believed in victory.
They were simply bested by better men.
Fun fact: In 1982 the British had only had 1 year in the previous 100 years where their forces hadn't been in combat somewhere around the world.
The experience and training of professional soldiers won over a conscript army.
There were no conscripts at Top Malo. Only Argentine special forces. I could name other strategic places of battle on the islands where there was only Argentine Marines but the list is too long.
But the UK Marines should wear Helmets instead of beretts during that Battle...
They did.
Royal Marines. Not UK Marines.
They weren’t Royal Marines, they were Paras.
Oh shut up
Colonialism.
It was.
Argentina invading and trying to oust a democratic peaceful civilian government was pure colonialism.
I'm pleased they were defeated
@@JammyDodger45 Argentina trying to wipe out a Non-Native species.
Kinda like what Putin is doing to Ukraine and already owns a 3rd of It not including Crimea. Getting rid of western back racist imperialist like he did Azov.
I'm pleased those Nazi Azov Junkies were defeated.
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Fighting a 3rd world country with first world equipment.
Not quite true, Argentina was better equipped arguably. British troops were much better trained in general though
LOL.
Where are you from? Southern Ireland? USA? Or some other chippy nation with a complex about Britain, perhaps?
The Argentines were well equipped to defeat the task force. They had a similar standard infantry rifle, better night vision goggles, super sonic jets, highly sophisticated anti - ship missiles (Exocet), advanced AA capability (Roland/Grail), air-to-air missiles (Matra) and a host of other ordnance and armament.
British soldiers, sailors, airmen and marines were fitter, stronger, braver.
End of.
Go cry a river.
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In that case not true at all.
You' must be confused..
It's Argentina, not Afghanistan.
An ignorant, poorly understood comment
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Turn to Odin the one true god 😀
Another brainwashed individual hijacking an emotive recollection highlighting the anguish, sorrow, jubilation and sadness of a military campaign.
RIP to all the military personnel of GB and Argentina who bravely fought and gave the ultimate sacrifice.
I still have no idea what "god" has got to do with this article.
The same merciful god who told his followers to kill women and children because they lived in their "promised land" and commanded that you should be stonned to death because you wear mixed fabrics and ate the wrong kind if food