Hey, former anticheat dev here - the check at 1:51 is one of the most basic checks & is likely not skidded. Vanilla MC client will never send a pitch packet with an angle >90 degrees, so if that packet is received, *every anticheat will autoban*. "Skidding" a check that is so simple like this is meaningless.
finally someone to publish something like this, most of the things are known, but the staff was always dirty by always spectating known players and allowing them to autoclick because they bring players and hype to the server, the biggest proof is Hamzee and Sotsi.
I never knew any of these lol, glad this has all been brought to light. mmc also had garbage hitreg and kb after the update, one of the reasons why i stopped playing 1.8 for awhile
This is why I have stopped playing the server seriously. I've known deep down that many players are closet cheating and AntiGamingChair bans everyone except active closet cheaters. In the past 4 years, I have been false-banned 5 or 6 separate times. I even reached out to MMC staff regarding a false ban and one of them said, verbatim, "No one cares kid. Go buy an unban." 1.8 is dead.
They do, 1.8 servers like coldpvp was shut down as well Mojang doesn't care about any 1.8 client side bugs/exploits because they're all fixed in newer versions
goawaynotgg is opps with shoezy, venyo, plosey and literally anyone better than him on as, admins refuse to fix ping on asia for like 2 years at this point
I don't know what to think of this honestly like you got a point or two. But the stuff you have shown isn't something unknown and seems to be very overdramatized. Imma touch on your points: 1. copying plugins - (known thing for quite some time; prolly not cool but rebranding something as long as you paid for it or it's free use is not illegal) 2. selling unbans - (very known thing; I don't personally see a problem with that especially since their ranks are set in a way that you won't buy one unless you played the server for years and even then you don't need to buy it since it only gives a FeW cosmetics, rankcolor and etc.) 3. "dev doesn't care if the anticheat false bans" - (again I don't think this is a crime or smth, every anticheat false bans and I personally would rather play on an anticheat that false bans 5% of the playerbase then have an anticheat that doesn't false ban much but there are like 20 bypasses on every possible cheat) 4. the pedophilia is more tolerated than IP leaks is a pretty shitty point - (pedophilia on it's own is not the same thing as sending a horrible/disgusting message; if we are taking things this far we might as well perm ban people for saying "get f*cked" since that could be taken as serious sexual harassment. 5. AGC is bad - (I don't think this is something worth exposing for but ye their blink checks and scaffold checks are pretty bad but it still is a good anticheat no matter how much we are trying to downgrade it. Overall I don't support what they do like they definitely aren't angels or something but breaking minecraft EULA is not my problem and skidding plugins is a very hot topic which is hard to prove. (developers of plugins can always sue if they feel like somebody stole their work in an illegal way.) Feel free to argue with me in a respectful way.
Yeah, this comment makes sense. The anti cheat is better than Hypixel for sure. We have to remember that the staff actually have lives, and can't be investigating every ban to see if it is false or not.
@@QuantumPlatypus42 ik it's simulation but half of the community doesn't know what "simulation" is + it doesn't change what I meant. Agc does have some basic scaffold checks, however they aren't good.
this doesnt surprise me about the whole vape agc thing because manthe literally is the owner of vape and mmc and EVERYONE has overlooked that, its crazy how much the anticheat/server devs combine with the hacking community. I knew this was gonna happen and alot of mmcs staff do use hacks, and probably own vape
MMC has always been a trash server and everybody knows that. MineHQ and Lunar were made because the community couldn't stand playing on there anymore. The only reason that mmc is so famous is the fact that it is an og server and the kb and overall mechanics are actually really good, but the owners only see the server as a cash grab (which i find a complete waste of potential) I'm not saying that the video is bad, but nothing is gonna change until the community doesn't take action (which is probably not gonna happen and the game is gonna be dead in a year or two)
MineHQ was made before Minemen Club even existed, and Lunar shut down due to Minemen Club taking their playerbase. Sipping copium won't help take their server down
As corrupt as minemen is I sadly will still play on it as no alternative server will compete with minemens playerbase and famous people that play on there daily if there was a server just like minemen and had the same playerbase but not corrupt I would play on it but sadly doesn't exist!
holy shit bro i've been telling people hiitsayz was a fucked up dude for like 3 years even back when he was on hypixel, (no wonder he isnt staff there anymore,) and no one fucking believed me
i found someone scamming people on minemen and i found a bunch of evidence and such, but the staff said they didnt care since it was not their problem if people were getting hacked from their server...
hey its tjxo long time no see what an absolute banger video. i knew theres a huge number of cheaters nowadays but thats crazy. no point in grinding mmc if its just all cheaters
best leak ever 💪💪💪only screenshots and staff chat 🔥🔥🔥 tbh poor leak and wont hurt server whatsoever. everyone has known for ages that they sell staff and unbans and stuff so it actually doesn't change anything. the only way you could really "hurt" the server is if you leaked actual src of production plugins, and even then you aren't doing much lmao
Ive been out of the mc community for an insane amount of time, especially the practice side of things, but the amount of time you've spent collecting this shit is insane, w. always hated mmc
It’s crazy that I still got like top 2 global ELO peak and all of these cheaters were playing and Imlegit ROFL. Also yeah I could provide some more evidence if necessary (might take a while to find but I’ve got some stuff)
So they are getting striked by mojang because of a malfunctionating anticheat and staff abusing their powers? (My english is way too simple to fully understand the video)
The staff on mmc are terrible I reached the leaderboard for ranked nodebuff twice last season completely legit while only fighting blatant cheaters who didn't get banned and then I got banned less than a day after hitting lbs
Lmfao you know I really doubted everyone with rank because I was just simply better in first pvp and fuckin kill then ez but then they message rematch and use idk what hacks and when asked for the footage of the fight they say "OHH I FORGOT TO RECORD!!!"
False banned for butterflying 20, and all those vape, drip, slinky cheaters that dont get banned... also 0:32, i saw this in this guy's vid (forgot name) (was privated) and he promoted the hashtag #screwmmc in his original mmc exposing video. Guys, post you getting banned or just exposing mmc and use #screwmmc (OR ANY OTHER HASHTAG against mmc). Use it here too, and share video, so they actually put their goddam shit together and fix the server. Good video king 🔥
I used both vape and drip. Played 40 games with drip (reach enabled) before getting banned Still using vape from like 5 days (reach not enabled), still not banned
@giancarlol64 lol yea i tried searching u by some videos like "Newgen Stimpy" since i forgot ur name did u get manipulated to back off or did u just change ur perspective
My friend who barley plays mc let alone pvp went on mmc with me and while i was afk he got tpd to a area with hard P*rn, this is how he described it: "there were item frames on the walls with animated p*rn women screaming blood and there was someone flying around the itme frames" i beleve this is true cause he was freaked asf
Idk about that. I don't think they would do that. If the person was recording, the server would get banned for sure. Just doesn't seem to make any sense
@@Rawrl31the literal definition of open source is "denoting software for which the original source code is made freely available and may be redistributed and modified" it's just easier to copy paste something than make it yourself and in this case theres no point in not since its open source.
@@MatthewBeats-t7k I doubt AGC skidded a 90 pitch check, it just seems like Savrien kept throwing garbage in the video to make it as bloated as possible, so nobody actually looks into what he's alleging
Edit: Files up! :D
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WE MOVING TO HYPIXEL WITH THIS ONE ‼‼
Coldpvp better
@@WulcNtf is that
@@lifelessed.shitty p2w hvh server
@@WulcNthey selling unbans too
Agreed , Would rather love to lagback and loose my stats every 2 seconds rather than playing in a clownshow
the amount of effort put in this video is unreal, props to the guys who helped in the making
the amount of glazing put in this comment is unreal, props to this guy who glazed in the making
Thanks for the work, waited this for a long time. Happy new year brother
Happy new year :D
pass that handle
happy new year
Hey, former anticheat dev here - the check at 1:51 is one of the most basic checks & is likely not skidded. Vanilla MC client will never send a pitch packet with an angle >90 degrees, so if that packet is received, *every anticheat will autoban*. "Skidding" a check that is so simple like this is meaningless.
Finally someone with a brain in this comment section LOL
Thank you for having a brain i respect you with all my heart
yea I also commented something similar about that part
We love Fozzie1000 guys
this is true but the staff plugin, so it doesnt matter if the anticheat proof is incorrect, because the staff plugin skid is undeniable
finally someone to publish something like this, most of the things are known, but the staff was always dirty by always spectating known players and allowing them to autoclick because they bring players and hype to the server, the biggest proof is Hamzee and Sotsi.
thanks nkd andrah jewdah put in a spliff 10 potted entropy 4.4
Business is Business brotha that wont stop them
can't believe I've grind 13k wins on this server 💀
Thank you for doing gods work
I never knew any of these lol, glad this has all been brought to light. mmc also had garbage hitreg and kb after the update, one of the reasons why i stopped playing 1.8 for awhile
their hit reg and kb is bad, so everything here sounds like something they would do, in my opinion
They even prevented people from typing *kb*
LMFAO@@Loscalo
@ButterflyClicker_ real
your talking about luconia right?@@fjifj-zs5jk
LOOOOOOOOOOOOOL
everyone knew they did stuff like this but this is just wild
+good song choice
remember me?
what a great server
wonder where we heading now
@@Looopah. maybe duels US? maybe kaiya
@@Looopah. out of the minecraft community LMFAOO
This is why I have stopped playing the server seriously. I've known deep down that many players are closet cheating and AntiGamingChair bans everyone except active closet cheaters. In the past 4 years, I have been false-banned 5 or 6 separate times. I even reached out to MMC staff regarding a false ban and one of them said, verbatim, "No one cares kid. Go buy an unban."
1.8 is dead.
As former MMC staff this is accurate.
LOLLLLL
the profile pic though LMAO
btw whats ur discord
@@iusemeteor kingcastelo but imma just warn u now i havent touched mc in over a year
i quit this comm to peruse making content on designer and such, so glad i did. this is crazy. you've earned a new sub brother. keep up the work.
we out this
guys don't forget that Mojang doesn't care about the -/1.7/1.8 version
They still care about communities.
They do, 1.8 servers like coldpvp was shut down as well Mojang doesn't care about any 1.8 client side bugs/exploits because they're all fixed in newer versions
They do care about EULA terms and conditions, as they are not determined by game version
@@ManLikeVex and coldpvp still is the only server where u can cheat without getting banned
(and 2b2t)
why should they? they have to update the new versions
good work my man, imma spread this faster than covid
good shit savrien its about time a vid like this blows up
Hell yes, it’s here
can't believe everyone forgot about this after like 2 weeks bro this is goated
yeah bro
wow g I love you so much, been waiting for this vid for so longggg
goawaynotgg is opps with shoezy, venyo, plosey and literally anyone better than him on as, admins refuse to fix ping on asia for like 2 years at this point
mmc has been known for being corrupt since like 2019 😭
Dewgs isnt staff
@@rip01 cringe
I don't know what to think of this honestly like you got a point or two. But the stuff you have shown isn't something unknown and seems to be very overdramatized.
Imma touch on your points:
1. copying plugins - (known thing for quite some time; prolly not cool but rebranding something as long as you paid for it or it's free use is not illegal)
2. selling unbans - (very known thing; I don't personally see a problem with that especially since their ranks are set in a way that you won't buy one unless you played the server for years and even then you don't need to buy it since it only gives a FeW cosmetics, rankcolor and etc.)
3. "dev doesn't care if the anticheat false bans" - (again I don't think this is a crime or smth, every anticheat false bans and I personally would rather play on an anticheat that false bans 5% of the playerbase then have an anticheat that doesn't false ban much but there are like 20 bypasses on every possible cheat)
4. the pedophilia is more tolerated than IP leaks is a pretty shitty point - (pedophilia on it's own is not the same thing as sending a horrible/disgusting message; if we are taking things this far we might as well perm ban people for saying "get f*cked" since that could be taken as serious sexual harassment.
5. AGC is bad - (I don't think this is something worth exposing for but ye their blink checks and scaffold checks are pretty bad but it still is a good anticheat no matter how much we are trying to downgrade it.
Overall I don't support what they do like they definitely aren't angels or something but breaking minecraft EULA is not my problem and skidding plugins is a very hot topic which is hard to prove. (developers of plugins can always sue if they feel like somebody stole their work in an illegal way.)
Feel free to argue with me in a respectful way.
Shut up
another eprson with a brain thank you, just because sav posts already known stuff doesnt mean hes "ending' mmc like wtf@@-nesco
Yeah, this comment makes sense. The anti cheat is better than Hypixel for sure. We have to remember that the staff actually have lives, and can't be investigating every ban to see if it is false or not.
“blink checks” brother u cannot detect blink its just simulating lag also agc has no scaffold checks
@@QuantumPlatypus42 ik it's simulation but half of the community doesn't know what "simulation" is + it doesn't change what I meant. Agc does have some basic scaffold checks, however they aren't good.
My goodness the Minecraft 1.7/1.8.9 community is falling apart
since years ago
some stuff showed here are 2 years ago or more
its been falling apart ever since they turned off client side ac
WE MOVING TO ANOTHER SERVER WITH THIS ONE!! 🔥🔥 🗣🗣
this doesnt surprise me about the whole vape agc thing because manthe literally is the owner of vape and mmc and EVERYONE has overlooked that, its crazy how much the anticheat/server devs combine with the hacking community. I knew this was gonna happen and alot of mmcs staff do use hacks, and probably own vape
everything was p much already known. hapis was selling staff ranks and rowteh was letting deproved and sotsi cheat and boost to leaderboards.
True, but the leak uncovers quite a lot more.
@@SavrienSEE THIS IS WHY I DONT LIKE ROWTEH
MMC has always been a trash server and everybody knows that. MineHQ and Lunar were made because the community couldn't stand playing on there anymore. The only reason that mmc is so famous is the fact that it is an og server and the kb and overall mechanics are actually really good, but the owners only see the server as a cash grab (which i find a complete waste of potential)
I'm not saying that the video is bad, but nothing is gonna change until the community doesn't take action (which is probably not gonna happen and the game is gonna be dead in a year or two)
MineHQ was made before Minemen Club even existed, and Lunar shut down due to Minemen Club taking their playerbase. Sipping copium won't help take their server down
bro fucking cooked a 5 star meal goddamn
Interesting.
send me ur discord wick wont let me join cus new acc. I got a huge update regarding about a MMC NDA leak. Would be a good video.
Sure - its @blissolic @@skidpolice715
send it to me crossfall_@@skidpolice715
s/o got banned for clicking 11 and the person acing 20 against me is still roaming free 😭
im sorry but accusing skidding then comparing a pitch > 90 check is just fucking HILARIOUS LOOL
Same way to write it, same name
@gatocom3462 deadass i don't really care about any of this i just thought that comparison was funny
As corrupt as minemen is I sadly will still play on it as no alternative server will compete with minemens playerbase and famous people that play on there daily if there was a server just like minemen and had the same playerbase but not corrupt I would play on it but sadly doesn't exist!
holy shit bro i've been telling people hiitsayz was a fucked up dude for like 3 years even back when he was on hypixel, (no wonder he isnt staff there anymore,) and no one fucking believed me
finally som1 to do this im subbing
i found someone scamming people on minemen and i found a bunch of evidence and such, but the staff said they didnt care since it was not their problem if people were getting hacked from their server...
They’re just turning into current day Hypixel ngl
oh no guess who just bought a 40$ rank this Christmas
We making it out the false copyright claims from manthe in this one!
ik mmc was alr suspicious, didn't know it was this bad
Finally someone did this video
minecraft pvp community try not to pull this shit for 5 seconds challenge (impossible)
god sent you for this
Imagine if manthe strikes the video LOL
5k views in 18 hours holy shit you deserve it
Fr vid is goin crazy
Yeah glad this video is getting attention@@AshAimm
YOOO GGS
hey its tjxo long time no see what an absolute banger video. i knew theres a huge number of cheaters nowadays but thats crazy. no point in grinding mmc if its just all cheaters
best leak ever 💪💪💪only screenshots and staff chat 🔥🔥🔥
tbh poor leak and wont hurt server whatsoever. everyone has known for ages that they sell staff and unbans and stuff so it actually doesn't change anything. the only way you could really "hurt" the server is if you leaked actual src of production plugins, and even then you aren't doing much lmao
lol, i'm already on that.
if you would look through the staff chats, you'd realize how much there is (you can find their NDA documents LOL)
@@Savrien I guess but that would hurt the staff members more rather than the server itself
It's easier said than done to get your hands on NDA-protected code/plugins 🤷♂
@@PrecedingMC thank you for stating the obvious
Ty for this W SAVRIEN
ma g ma man you did a awesome work great job on this savrien finally someones eyes got on this
this is crazy and idek what im looking at LMFAOO
Almost all the players on this server are suspicious, it is impossible to throw a normal duel. It was like that years ago and it still is like that.
finally
we need a good practice server with asia and eu proxies otherwise people will just continue in mmc (mainly asians and aussies)
I miss the old mmc, i used to miss old minehq back then, but then AGAIN i used to miss soup
Nice
wow who would have guessed the owner of a back door client also has a server thats currupt? mind blowing.
How is vape a backdoor client???
ye explain how vape is a backdoor client pls lol
@@kilersqidnot a back door…kids talking outa his ass
@@Skailed manthe backdoored it ages ago and then the backdoor got removed
@@someskilled not
Ive been out of the mc community for an insane amount of time, especially the practice side of things, but the amount of time you've spent collecting this shit is insane, w. always hated mmc
MY GOAT
when manthe going to see thia rip to your channel cuz manthe strikes lmao RIP
WE BLACKLISTING MINEMEN WITH THIS ONE 🗣🗣🔥🔥🔥
agc anticheat is worse dan watchdog
watchdog has almost all flies patched scaffold patched
t even had velocity and ka for more dan 3 blocks patched
watchdog sucks; flies still exist along with infinite scaffold and 3+ aura idk what you talking about
agc still worse
1k on a mc server is crazy bruh😹
I am gonna bet this video gets striked by manthe soon
Damn this is getting crazy
W video brother, spread that truth 🔥😤
It’s crazy that I still got like top 2 global ELO peak and all of these cheaters were playing and Imlegit ROFL. Also yeah I could provide some more evidence if necessary (might take a while to find but I’ve got some stuff)
Please do. DM Me on Discord @savrien
LOL you play mmc all day go touch grass
also you like them young get exposed
retar@@Infracting_PVP
Wow!😊
❤
WAIT A MINUTE 0:44 THATS MY PAYPAL WHERE'D THAT COME FROM 💀
man change password💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀
nahh bro but Marsanne Florentino is a goofy ahh name though 😭
LOL
@@Laz_RBW thats not mine thats the staff name
if minemen club is deleted then i quit minecraft forever
So they are getting striked by mojang because of a malfunctionating anticheat and staff abusing their powers? (My english is way too simple to fully understand the video)
for selling unbans
holy moly
GG
So, what do you think is gonna happen now?
yea
The staff on mmc are terrible I reached the leaderboard for ranked nodebuff twice last season completely legit while only fighting blatant cheaters who didn't get banned and then I got banned less than a day after hitting lbs
esiw soundclicker
ua-cam.com/video/ACTRiyAf3Kc/v-deo.html
dis crazy but expected
GGs
1:27 imin tha vid ls go
okay but where was the staff mod and half this shit on the staff guide when I was staff 😭😭😭
1:10 no way ppl still think that a verus based ac is reliable and can consistently detect cheaters
sata andagi
AGC is Verus based? How do you know?
@@FirephoenixX02 step one: have a brain 🤑
@@notanaltiswear2294 ?
ngl bro this a rlly good vid and stuff but imma still hop on mmc lol
bros addicted lol
i didnt seem to know anything more about this server...
minemen time has come 😥
1:05 this is so sad 😭😭😭😭💢💢
Boys we are going back to hypixel
nah most people on minemen play on 1.7 and hypixel is 1.8+
@@mila-d5b it doesent matter hit reg isnt broken on hypixel
@@RealKloggier it’s hella broken, that’s why hypixel is known for having the worst hit reg for years. Btw good luck playing potpvp on hypixel 😭
i swear they used to sell unbans on their store
they did.
@@Savrien They still do secretly , i once cheated on my alt to test agc and they ss'd me and said i could purchase an unban if i like....
dawg did u even watch the video?@@spypath5616
I’ve always known they do this stuff but I don’t have any other pvp server to go to lol 😂😂😂 they’re the same after all these years
Lmfao you know I really doubted everyone with rank because I was just simply better in first pvp and fuckin kill then ez but then they message rematch and use idk what hacks and when asked for the footage of the fight they say "OHH I FORGOT TO RECORD!!!"
im flabbergasted
my ex wife still misses me, but her aim is getting better
WE GOING FOR THE DDOS WITH THIS ONE‼‼🗣🗣
False banned for butterflying 20, and all those vape, drip, slinky cheaters that dont get banned... also 0:32, i saw this in this guy's vid (forgot name) (was privated) and he promoted the hashtag #screwmmc in his original mmc exposing video.
Guys, post you getting banned or just exposing mmc and use #screwmmc (OR ANY OTHER HASHTAG against mmc). Use it here too, and share video, so they actually put their goddam shit together and fix the server.
Good video king 🔥
I used both vape and drip.
Played 40 games with drip (reach enabled) before getting banned
Still using vape from like 5 days (reach not enabled), still not banned
broooo @@leopoldo8682
@@leopoldo8682 bro how. I got banned and im legit, only thing i was doing that could be considered unlegit was double clicking.
@giancarlol64 it sucks but it’s true there’s no other server besides mmc. Are there any servers that are getting popular?
@giancarlol64 lol yea i tried searching u by some videos like "Newgen Stimpy" since i forgot ur name
did u get manipulated to back off or did u just change ur perspective
hiitsayz was an ex hypixel mod
The day we really mmc will end
ty for this
My friend who barley plays mc let alone pvp went on mmc with me and while i was afk he got tpd to a area with hard P*rn, this is how he described it: "there were item frames on the walls with animated p*rn women screaming blood and there was someone flying around the itme frames" i beleve this is true cause he was freaked asf
Idk about that. I don't think they would do that. If the person was recording, the server would get banned for sure. Just doesn't seem to make any sense
😂😂😂@mqtivated
It's true i bet he got tpd
@@RiverHeights trust me they would
@mqtivated ik right
I feel like most of their bans are staff bans considering people can get 10k logs without get autobanned lmaoo
thats crazy
BRUH WHAT dewgs can't even make a pitch check by himself ?! LMFAOO
doesn't matter. he skidded ahm lmfao@@Amaltator489
it also doesn't really matter if ahm is open sourced or not, dewgs still took ahm's code.@@Amaltator489
@@Rawrl31the literal definition of open source is "denoting software for which the original source code is made freely available and may be redistributed and modified" it's just easier to copy paste something than make it yourself and in this case theres no point in not since its open source.
@@MatthewBeats-t7k I doubt AGC skidded a 90 pitch check, it just seems like Savrien kept throwing garbage in the video to make it as bloated as possible, so nobody actually looks into what he's alleging
@@neptune5801lil bro i legit got agc 2.0 src and yes its true they skidded a 90 pitch check LOL