FrameSaw for carpenter and woodworker
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- Опубліковано 16 вер 2021
- Building a FrameSaw with changeable blades for sawing WetWood, Rip & CrossCut, CurveCut. It can be put in pieces to carry while hiking or to harvest wood in the forest. No power-tools, silent hand-tools only. While building i use my existing saw to demonstrate its functionality. Also my selfmade Workbench was of great help!
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What wood is used?
- It is Rowan, also called Mountain Ash. It grows in our little forest, is quite hard, very flexible and i love the grain. The pieces used are dried for about two years.
What finishing has been applied?
- It is self-made wood finish, mixed with different plant oils like Linseedoil, Tungoil, Poppyseedoil and some Standoil. Later some beeswax will be applied.
What measurements are needed?
- Nothing else, than the length of the blade.
Where to get blades?
- Mine are made in Germany by E.C.E. They are sold by good handtool shops.
Why the handles are not self-made?
- I still had a ready pair in my storage. Only the lack has been removed for oiling.
What parts came from a shop?
- Additional to the handles, also the blades, the saw blade holders and the hempstring came from my tool-shop.
One saw for all - are there situations, where this saw is not good?
- Yes, there are! For very fine cuts, i prefer my small saw or my japanese saw. Even, if japanese blades are available for frame saws, i would prefer a smaller and more handy one. But that is just my own taste...
For any further question or idea, feel free to comment :-) - Навчання та стиль
![Watch me BUILD this beautiful WORKBENCH…[2 Month Timelapse]](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/Ob-nEWnTTWI/mqdefault.jpg)
If you are looking for the hardware to build a similar saw, read this:
Unfortunately only the blades are available. The other hardware and the handles are no longer on sale, the producer stoped selling them. The blades are made in Germany by E.C.E. and should be found in good tool supplie shops.
The hardware should not be too difficult to make yourself. It is just a piece of 2mm thick iron with two wholes. One to put a nail through, one for a small screw.
Hope this was helpful...
Your bow saws classic design will outlast anything you could buy from the store.
Thanks for sharing.
Yes his bow is perfect but where is the arrow?
(Am kiddin' : am a french cabinet maker.
I made mine with intarsia... Swiss made fashion ha ha ha!)
I am so happy that I found your channel. I love quiet woodworking and I'm looking forward to watching more of what you do.
This video, although a couple of years old, was a timely discovery for me. I purchased a craftsman made framesaw a while back and am dissatisfied with it. Today i cit some lovely straight grained ash to make my own frame, and found this video quite instructive. Thanks for sharing.
Oh, that is a nice feedback :-)
You are new but you videos are awesome.
Prime craftmanship and a very useful tool! They will serve you well for decades I am sure.
Very nice, patient, precise work!
Wunderbar! Vielen Dank für's Teilen!
Very fine craftsmanship on a very useful tool for remote wood working. I wish I had one right now! Thank you for the time to make this elegant video of the process.
...лучковая пила!-, была у отца такая-же, правда где сейчас находится- вряд-ли найду, а твоя работа отличная, работаешь по старинке- всё в ручную, безо всякого электрооборудования- молодец, здоровья тебе и удачи во всём!!!
Magnificent work (as always)!
Great video and work, thank you.
Beautiful made & practical classic tool. Bravo.
So imperfect wood has great functions if applying correct.
Great project.
Thanks for teaching Sir.
So wishing I had moved back to Grandpa Jude's farm in the Kentucky Hills.
Very fine craftsmanship 👏
Great saw and enjoyable video.
Thankyou thankyou thankyou so much for be so incredible 🙌 blessings from Chile 🖐
Хорошая работа!)))
Sehr schöne Arbeit! Ich bewundere euch Holzwerker, es ist eine Freude euch zuzusehen.
Rowan is nice wood! Someday I'm gonna steal that idea with the sliding tension thing 😊
The Celtic people thought Rowan trees, were sacred and warded off evil spirits. You couldn’t use any part of the tree other than the berries. Hopefully some bad luck doesn’t come for our guy here
I'm still fine;)
Maybe the trees appreciate, that I take some pieces here and there, but otherwise let the forest grow. In most other forests, the Rowan is cleared away because it has no value for industry...
I like the wood work very much. My grandfather worked with handwrenches like this.I am happy, because I have and can to use they if I need.
Thank's for this wideo. Excellent work!
👍👍👍🤩🤩🤩
Bonjour,
Bravo, c'est du beau travail.
God bless you.
Excelente trabajo felicitaciones
Hallo kleiner Wald. In der Beschreibung zu Deinem Kanal lese ich, das Du au Finnland kommst, die Detaillierte Videobeschreibung ist aber auf deutsch, deshalb schreibe ich jetzt auch in deutsch. Seit einigen Jahren übe ich mich in der Kunst des Drechselns, mit mehr oder weniger grossem Erfolg. Hunderte von Videos habe ich gesehen, die damit in direktem oder indirektem Zusammenhang stehen, alle aber den selben Protagonisten haben: Das Holz. Dabei stosse ich auch oft auf Videos von Menschen, die nahezu gänzlich auf Maschinen verzichten. Auch ich muss mir für mein Hobby mein Holz organisieren und zurecht machen, habe aber bei weitem nicht das Geschick und erst recht nicht die Ausdauer und Geduld, die Du an den Tag legst. Daher benutze ich viele Maschinen zum sägen, hobeln, fräsen, schleifen und schnitzen. Selten habe ich ein Video dieser Art gesehen, das mich so in den Bann gezogen hat wie Deines jetzt. Die ruhige Art mit der Du mit Erfahrenem Könnerblick und unglaublichem Geschick, besonders mit dem Messer, zu Werke gehst, ist unglaublich schön und wirkt sehr beruhigend. Und obwohl ich weiss oder zumindest stark ahne, welche körperliche Anstrengung dies benötigt, strahlt Deine Arbeit etwas meditatives aus, und nähert sich, nein, es überschreitet sogar die Grenze zur Kunst. Es hat mir aussergewöhnlich gut gefallen, und in der Hoffnung mehr davon erleben zu können, lasse ich ein hoffnungsfrohes Abo da. Der Daumen hoch ist sowieso klar. Zeige bitte noch vieles in der Art, pass auf Dich auf und bleib gesund. Liebe Grüsse aus dem hohen Norden von Deutschland, Schorschi.
Wow.Beautifull.😊
Wunderbare Arbeit, ich liebe die Maserung des Holzes - und dass Du die Säge nach traditionellem Muster mit drehbaren Griffen ausgestattet hast, was sie erst richtig unversell macht. Oftmals wird das Sägeblatt nur durch Schlitze in den Armen geführt.
Eine Gestellsäge ist das einzige Sägen-Design, dass für Rechts- wie Linkshänder, für Stoß- und Zug-Betrieb sowie für Quer- und Längsschnitte gleichermaßen geeignet ist, solange man das richtige Sägeblatt aufzieht.
Einige Anmerkungen seien mir bitte gestattet - keine Kritik, eher aus der Kategorie Tipps&Tricks aus meiner eigenen Praxis:
@0:35 - wenn man die Sägeblätter mit Schrauben befestigt, sollte man ein Taschentuch, Shemagh, Müllsack o.ä. unterlegen, damit die Schrauben und Scheiben nicht verloren gehen - selbst bei Arbeiten im eigenen Garten ist es ärgerlich, wenn man neue aus der Werkstatt holen muss, weil man sie im Rasen, Laub oder Gestrüpp nicht wiederfindet.
@7:40 Die Verwendung von Schlitz und Zapfen für das Verbinden der Arme mit dem Steg schwächt unnötig die Stabilität des Gestells - ein Verdrehen der Arme kann genausogut unterbunden werden, wenn man nur schmale Schlitze von 2-3mm Breite einsägt und auf beiden Seiten je eine ovale (Edel-) Stahlplatte einsetzt, die mit einer Bohrung und einem Nagel im Steg gegen Verlust gesichert werden kann.
@14:00 - ich sehe zum ersten Mal, dass jemand ein Gleitstück für den Knebel verwendet, hat das einen besonderen Grund? Meiner Meinung nach ist das unnötig, ein sauber gerundeter Knebel allein tut es auch. Für häufigen Gebrauch im Wald könnte man eine Nut unterm oberen Ende machen und dort die Enden der Schnur enden lassen (doppelter Spierenstich, Knebel zwischen beide einklemmen) - so ist der Knebel gegen Verlust geschützt. Zum Spannen muss der Knebel etwas zur Seite gedreht werden.
@17:40 Besser, als eine schwache Schnur sechsmal einzeln um die Sägearme zu führen, ist es, zunächst drei Schnüre miteinander zu verdrillen und an den Enden je einen Augspleiß zu arbeiten.
Noch besser, nur nicht so traditionell, wäre es, moderne Kunstfasern zu verwenden - eine 4mm-Dyneema-Schnur wäre locker stark genug; einmal um die Sägearme geführt und den Knebel in einen doppelten Spierenstich eingebunden, und eher brechen die Sägearme, als dass die Schnur reißt (Reißfestigkeit bei 4mm ca. 1.000kg).
Du schreibst, dass Du für feine Arbeiten eine Japansäge bevorzugst - wie wär's mit dem Bau eines kleinen Gestells (250-300mm) für ein Japansägeblatt?
Thank you
And those hard to find blades will just appear magically 😁🇨🇦
Tnx for posting . I use frame saws an find them very useful in the shop. I don,t know how popular they are here in N. america, but would guess not so much , as there are only a few suppliers cheers !
good job
Muito obrigado,por dedicar a esse trabalho e nos dar a preciosidade de ver.o Criador contigo.um forte abraço...
As a hobby black smith I built a 2.25" wood chisel much as yours.Big two handle type with push power and great steel
GENIOOOOOOOO ......QUE MAESTRO....
Coisa linda, saudações do Brasil
i have been looking for "curve cut" blades for several years. ECE seems to be the only one to carry them. Thanks for the link.
I’ve wanted to build one for a while for various purposes. Sourcing the blades has been the challenging part intermittently since some suppliers are out of stock at times. I’ve debated making my own out of a bandsaw blade for resawing.
That's nice to hear! Is it not a challenge which often makes us creative and remind us that we can be independent if we want. Now, you'll have a truly selfmade saw. And you'll have the chance to choose how are the teeth and how long you exactly want it to be....
All the best for it :-)
Awesome
Muy bueno!
hermosooo trabajo
Nossa parabéns pelo seu trabalho e top que madeira linda qual tipo de madeira seria esta muito chique
For wood and natural fiber cordage, there's no better finish, imo, than Pine Tar. Often called Stockholm Tar, the pine tar has natural antimicrobial stuff going on in it that keeps the wood lively and helps to stop ropes from rotting through. It was used as a finish for a thousand years before folks pretty much forgot about it. Try it, and you'll fall in love!
Yes, i use pine tar very often. Specially for my wooden boat.
But i would not recommend it for tool handles like my saw. Tar might harden bit, but it does not dry or react with oxigen like linseed or tung oil. It stays sticky, specially when warm.
That is at least my experience.
Do you use it on tool handles? How you get along with tis stickyness?
@@littleforest I use it on tool handles all the time. The way I was taught was to paint it on, let it sit for a minute and then go over the piece with a torch to warm it up and it soaks right into the wood. The heat from the torch is very light, never enough to char the wood, but it bubbles the pine tar very easily and you can watch it soak in, especially on soft woods.
Of course, I'd expect some brands of pine tar are thicker than others, so you might have to thin it down with turpentine to allow it to flow well.
It's all I use for the handles on my blacksmithing hammers, and I've never experienced this stickiness you speak of.
With linseed oil, though, I always have to let it sit and dry for a couple days, and then worry about the mold spores rooting on the wood after the humidity has done its work.
I do know that a lot of nautical folks will blend their pine tar with linseed oil and turpentine to make the pine tar go further. They even add shellac flakes to the mix to give it a higher gloss and more durability, but I've never tried any of that. If the tar is too thick for my liking, I add turpentine, but that's it.
Always meant to do some experiments, but mainly use the tar on my hammer handles and manila/cotton rope.
@@threeriversforge1997
That sounds interesting, i'm going to try it out. Thank you very much for the inspiration!!
@@littleforest I'll look forward to hearing your thoughts.
I tried it out for my floor construction, the under timber - works great! It will not be the last time i used this method. Thanx for it :-)
I never heard of rowan; where do you live? It looks and sounds like Hickory, or Hornbeam, except for the dark heart wood. Hey, you whittle with your spoke shave ; thought I was the only one! ( I guess we humans are quite self centered!). Nicely sharp chisel 8:52!
Rowan is also known as mountain ash (genus Sorbus). Quite small trees, characterised by big bunches of red berries in autumn.
Magnificent! I saw these saws in Hong Kong when I was there many years ago. They built the most beautiful furniture--chairs, tables--out of rosewood, using these saws, the fastest-cutting saws I've ever seen, and they could do just about anything with them, cut circles, perfectly straight lines. Are you a Frenchman?
NAREX chisels?
Hallo,
Wo sind die Sägeblätter her ?
The bladez are made in germany w h putsch ??
Hallo!
Marke E.C.E. noch echt hergestellt in Deutschland. Kaufen kannst Du sie im Werkzeughandel. Feine Werkzeuge, Dictum oder Tischlerbedarf z.B.
Very nice work! I have not used Rowan or Mountain Ash, but it looks great!
The small block of wood to allow your tension arm to slide easier is a nice touch. I've seen that in images of some of the finer turning saws. It is something I've been thinking about adding to my saws.
One small suggestion: Your mortice and tenon joint needs to be a little sloppy in the vertical direction to allow the arms to move a little as you tighten up the blade. If you make them too tight, you restrict the movement, and your blade will not tighten up properly. Maybe you did that, and didn't really show it. A shorter tenon also helps. I've made a few turning saws and I've found I only need about the tenon to be about 1/4 inch long. (Approximately 6-7 mm) Granted, a turning saw is the little brother of your saw, used with much finer blades, but the concept still applies.
This video sparks the question, "How do I make a bow saw without a bow saw?" The answer: Make a crude frame with an axe and use that to make the nicer one. For those interested, I think Rex Kruger has a video on making a bow saw without a bow saw. :-)
Nice video.. Do you have any plans for the saw. I have wanting to build one for a long time but Have not found anything that I liked. This design looks perfect!
No, sorry, but just trust yourself, be free and work without plans. So your imagination has more space to bloom :-)
Como se llaman esas hojas que utiliza su herramienta ?
Donde,se venden ?
Donde consigo de esas sierras de metal anchas
Where do you get your saw blades for these from?
Highland Woodworking in the U.S. has them.
I got mine from woodcraft usa. Dont think thdy sell them any more.Tools for working wood. Or traditional woodworker
Я точно такое же нашел на помойке. Вместе со старой пилой. Замечательно пилит!
Всё собираюсь сделать новую пилу, но пока старая прекрасно справляется. Очень полезная конструкция.
@@dmxumrrk332 Я знаю, где найти неплохие подержанные инструменты, поэтому попробую. До сих пор мне очень везло на ebay. Спасибо
J'ai 5 scies a cadre mais avec des systèmes bloqueurs sur fil de métal et non à cordage .
Je voudrais changer 2 paires de poignées mais je vais devoir les fabriquer je n'ai pas trouvé de vendeurs .
Mon père fabriquait les siennes .
Je vais peut être tenter une lame japonaise de 60 cm chez Bordet ou Dictum .
Tu fais du très beau travail , j'ai été admiratif de tes filières et taraudeuse pour vis en bois .
Salut
Salut James :-)
J'ai une fois gouté aux lames japonaises avec ma scie. Oui, elle sont pas mal, mais je n'aime pas trop le fait, que je ne peut les affuter moi mème. Quand les lames allemandes sont bien affuté (elles ne le sont pas venant de l'usine) je ne vois pas grande difference. Pour travail de menuiserie j'utilise la lame pour coupe transversale uniquement.
Tu trouveras differente lames (allemandes et japonaises) plus les poignées en hêtre ici:
www.outils-professionnels.com/gestell.html
Abo und Like dagelassen. Eine Säge mit Baumkante hat Charme.
Sir what brand blade? Made in Japan blade or chinese blade?
made in Germany blade - E.C.E. is the brand
PS. Quelle marque tes ciseaux , l'affuteur je le doute que c'est toi .
Salut James!
Un mélange: Il y a des Kirschen, des MHG, des japonais et des piece dont je ne connais la marque. La plus part viennent des ateliers de mes grands père, le meilleur magasin :-)
J'affute moi mème, oui.
Please post the link to blade supplier who ever have it
They are made in Germany by E.C.E.
You can by them for example in Tischler-bedarf.com
I found an address for the handles. If you're interested....
А что за дерево? Рябина?
Рябина!
Charpenter??
Thank you for sharing your fine craftsmanship
Mistä hankit sahanterät? :)
Suomen kieli :-)
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@@littleforest Kiitos :)
Where can we get the blades and handle hardware?
Unfortunately they are not on slae any more. I dod not know where they can actually be found. Sorry...
In short - how to build an accurate carpentry tool from almost nothing.
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hello! I need to buy blades to make a saw like this but I can't find them in Brazil.
Where do you make or buy your blades? What is the store address so I can order the size I want?
please I need help with this
Hello Claudio.
ECE is the brand who makes them. They are sold in german shops, but the shipping costs to Brazil must be very expensive.
Tischlerbedarf.de
feinewerkzeuge.de
Read the other comments, some have mentioned shops from US selling them.
Hopefully you find what you are looking for!
Thank you