RESTORING A CROSSCUT SAW

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  • @mountainmanwilliams
    @mountainmanwilliams 6 років тому +42

    I love watching your videos. It makes me feel like I'm not the only one who loves the ways of past times. I have been called crazy for using nothing but old handtools and insane for taking care of them. I love history and I love living history. Nice video Mr. Chickadee and love to see more.

    • @MrChickadee
      @MrChickadee  6 років тому +23

      A wise man once told me, if you are going to work, you might as well work the way you enjoy!

    • @garyw5627
      @garyw5627 4 роки тому +2

      Couldn’t have said it better. The old ways work and keep working.

  • @jamesstanlake4064
    @jamesstanlake4064 6 років тому +37

    Love to see the old neglected tools placed back in service. The steel is better and holds the cutting edge longer as well. Nice job!

    • @metaspencer
      @metaspencer 6 років тому +2

      agreed. excellent in every way

  • @WoodsmokeSelf-Reliance
    @WoodsmokeSelf-Reliance 3 роки тому

    I have many old hand tools passed down from my Great-Great Uncle to my Uncle and then to me. Every one is special as I know the history of what each tool has built, and many of those tools worked to restore the historic homes that my Great-Great Uncle originally built.
    Modern hand tools pale in comparison to Vintage hand tools that were employed every day to build the homes of yesteryear, and I proudly own, cherish and use those tools to this day.
    Not only do I have my Great-Great Uncle’s tools, but I have acquired many additional hand tools of which I know the history from the previous craftsman who wielded them. It is a satisfying and humbling feeling to be able to carry on the tradition that those hand tools have carved out through history.

  • @johnhammack12
    @johnhammack12 6 років тому +36

    Glad to see you are doing ok... we miss you and your family... more..we need more... LoL.. nice job on the saw...

    • @marktidwell5154
      @marktidwell5154 6 років тому

      nice! bet it would make short work on wet sweetgum.love these saws when they are right. makes a man feel like a man.

    • @MrChickadee
      @MrChickadee  6 років тому +8

      Thank you, more is on the way!

  • @ormmeford2204
    @ormmeford2204 6 років тому +1

    IO really appreciate everything you do because you use the "old" way of doing things. What would most of this country do if we were without power?You have been and are preserving the old art of doing things. More power to you!

  • @tikitavi7120
    @tikitavi7120 4 роки тому +1

    Well done. I found a similar saw today in a thrift store. It is actually in excellent condition with just a little surface rust. Very sharp and a homemade wooden scabbard. Someone loved this tool, and so will I.

  • @lailgrant5904
    @lailgrant5904 4 роки тому +1

    Mr. C, I would like to thank you for the pace and quiet of your offerings. It is a calming part of days I need to slow down and take time. I found myself talking to myself about the sharpening and setting of the blade's teeth and then searching out what I didn't understand. Thank you for the inspiration.

  • @pebblesthecat3625
    @pebblesthecat3625 5 років тому

    What a beautiful restoration on a worthwhile tool. Restored back to use for another generation and yet another lifetime.

  • @bent7119
    @bent7119 4 роки тому

    Thank you so much for the crosscut saw manual! Now to restore the one idlely sitting in the garage

  • @jolujo5842
    @jolujo5842 5 років тому +6

    Great video and nice job on setting the teeth and rakers. 👍👍👍👍👍
    One suggestion tho....
    I think you should have soaked the whole wooden handle in warm oil before installing it to the saw blade.
    That would keep moisture from building up in the inside of the blade slot and reduce future rusting at the blades handle surface area.
    I use a mixture of boiled linseed oil and turpentine for helping the oil penetrate further into the wood grain. An old trick my grandpa taught me.

  • @ThirdCoastCraftsman
    @ThirdCoastCraftsman 6 років тому +4

    SO GLAD TO SEE A NEW VIDEO!!!! Still my favorite channel on UA-cam! Hope you are doing well brother and that there is more amazing video coming our way!

    • @MrChickadee
      @MrChickadee  6 років тому

      Thank you so much for the kind words! We have been very busy, but have some stuff coming out soon!

    • @marvinostman522
      @marvinostman522 6 років тому +2

      I just came across some of “Third Coast Craftsman” videos. Now I here he is sending kudos to you. That’s one of the things I like about the people who really have the “chops.” They appreciate each other’s work instead of looking to find something to pick at
      My vote too is don’t talk. You do such a good job demonstrating you don’t need the words and you always find the time answer our questions.

  • @ronitsingh85
    @ronitsingh85 2 роки тому

    beautiful restoeation, very therapeutic to watch! Thank you

  • @gregwilkins7649
    @gregwilkins7649 6 місяців тому

    Great restoration of a beautiful old saw. Your videos are top notch and always relaxing to watch and inspiring.

  • @deyvidfernandes8763
    @deyvidfernandes8763 6 років тому

    Hello Mr. Chickadee, thank you for sharing with us so much wisdom regarding hand tools. I am passionate about everything that is done manually, and his talent always inspires me. Thank you!!!

  • @williamlott7612
    @williamlott7612 2 роки тому

    I’ll never look at an old saw again without seeing potential. Darlington, South Carolina

  • @johnburens3395
    @johnburens3395 4 роки тому

    I found that pumice works great for removing rust on sheet metal. I cleaned up a swap meet Disston saw I found for five dollars. It works OK, but now I want to sharpen it and see how well it will cut. Your videos are inspiration!

  • @mtmchenry
    @mtmchenry 6 років тому

    Great seeing an old tool brought back to life.

  • @c.wombatz
    @c.wombatz 6 років тому +28

    This is something which has always fascinated me - the history, or heritage, if you will, of old tools. That saw, for example... How many homes have been built from timber shaped by it? How many fires have been lit which were fueled by logs it cut to length? How many of its cuttings have been turned into chair legs or frames for cradles? If those tools could talk, imagine the stories they could tell. I for one would love to listen.

    • @MrChickadee
      @MrChickadee  6 років тому +11

      Exactly my thoughts as I brought it home!

    • @neilmarshall5087
      @neilmarshall5087 6 років тому +4

      I think they would be wooden conversationalists. Or worse, pining for the past.
      Make sure you get a straight talker, not a side splitting comedian. Or a rake. Otherwise you will have to iron out those cutting problems before you sink your teeth into a job.
      "Watt are hew doing"
      "I saw what you did there"
      "Hes a chip off the old block"
      "The first cut is the deepest"

  • @phxtonash
    @phxtonash 6 років тому +2

    I watch and enjoy all of your videos! Thank you for the things I have learned. The most important thing I think is the slow and methodical way you work. With your constant pace you get a lot done without wearing yourself out. I tried to practice this in all of the things I do now. Thanks!

  • @kevintulak9987
    @kevintulak9987 6 років тому

    That was great thank you. I have a few old saws to refurbish, both single and two man saws. I have collected some antique saw sharpening tools to work with so the timing is good. Thanks for sharing.

  • @matthewbaker1157
    @matthewbaker1157 6 років тому

    A+ work as usual. Carefully filmed to clearly convey the 'how' and 'what' of the craft without the distraction of spoken words (the cat's meow being the exception). This also allows the audience to really soak up the subtle sounds made from working the different tools.

  • @snort455
    @snort455 Рік тому

    this is what youtube is good for. i always feel better after watching mr.c. btw i have a saw just like this one that hasnt been sharpened sine i was 12. bout time!

  • @Chr.U.Cas1622
    @Chr.U.Cas1622 5 років тому

    And a simply fantastic Mr. Chicadee video again. Thank you very much for saving restoring using taping editing uploading and sharing.
    Best regards luck and health to you all.
    Postscriptum: Please please do longer and more of your very special and fantastic quiet, inspirational, instructive, meditational/meditative videos. I'm addicted to them.

  • @raynoladominguez4730
    @raynoladominguez4730 6 років тому +3

    Beautiful job. I really appreciate the care and work that you put into the handle, it sure helps to make the sawing smoother and rasping of the knuckles. Great video as always.

  • @hillbillynick2000
    @hillbillynick2000 6 років тому +2

    Always glad to see a new video from you! Great job on the saw. I've been sharpening them for years. Had to learn as a kid in the farm. My father just couldn't grasp it and it fell to me. We cut thousands of fence posts to fill orders one year when both chainsaws were in the shop. My buddy and I won a lot of beer money betting a two man was faster than a chainsaw.

    • @MrChickadee
      @MrChickadee  6 років тому +1

      Sounds like you could teach me a few things!

    • @hillbillynick2000
      @hillbillynick2000 6 років тому +1

      @@MrChickadee looks like you're doing fine! I sure you could teach me a whole lot about timber framing! In fact, you have!

  • @jamesmalott7851
    @jamesmalott7851 6 років тому

    It was a pleasure to be able to watch you restore this Saw! I love to watch true craftsmen working their magic on their crafts.. thank you so much.

  • @Winterlulz
    @Winterlulz 6 років тому +1

    Watching you cut that log was satisfying for me, I bet it was even more so for you! Great stuff.

  • @pmrich7035
    @pmrich7035 6 років тому

    Got to use that saw during the fall timber framing class. Awesome saw that went through the lumber like a hot knife through butter.

  • @riderxl
    @riderxl 5 років тому +4

    amazing shit! this guy shows how it was done .., and probably how it should be

  • @bloodgracet5640
    @bloodgracet5640 5 років тому +1

    In every video Mr. Chickadee does, there is always one thing he cannot do...A bad job. Love your videos

  • @darrelrhame9351
    @darrelrhame9351 6 років тому +1

    Nice job restoring that old beauty, such a sweet sound ,better than listening to a screaming chain saw!

  • @robertbrunston5406
    @robertbrunston5406 6 років тому

    Very good Mr. C your saw cuts very well! Thanks for sharing.

  • @MadRhetorik.
    @MadRhetorik. 5 років тому

    I have one just like this that I picked up for only 10 bucks at a local flea market. I'm looking forward to restoring it when I get my workshop up and going :)

  • @exogencontainment
    @exogencontainment 3 роки тому

    Thank you Sir! You should have millions of subs!!

  • @Banjo-lm2wl
    @Banjo-lm2wl 5 років тому +1

    Love all the things you do on your channel .I always learn allot from you thank you so much.

  • @HomeShowTV
    @HomeShowTV 5 років тому

    I love the tennoned sawbuck. It is super cool.

  • @williammcasey7650
    @williammcasey7650 5 років тому

    Mr C: your video “spoke” to my heart! Like when you read a passage in scripture many times and all of a sudden, you get it!! God bless you and your family!!

  • @JDK45ACP
    @JDK45ACP 3 роки тому

    Great job, great video.

  • @xysix2548
    @xysix2548 6 років тому

    So glad you gave us another video. As always, yours are some of the very best on the web.

  • @marvinostman522
    @marvinostman522 6 років тому

    I grew up in Sandstone MN. Down in the old quarry area there are rock walls close to a hundred feet high. I never once thought to use it as an abrasive. Thanks

  • @ludvigtande1236
    @ludvigtande1236 6 років тому

    Now that’s a restoration!! Thanks for sharing!

  • @jeremythompson7922
    @jeremythompson7922 4 роки тому

    Im from Maine just built a house off grid all by hand wish I come across these videos sooner I'm preparing to build a 30/60 barn same way ..I have seen a lot of things here that will save me time and effort

  • @root7875
    @root7875 3 роки тому

    Вы-Мастер,благодарю за труд !

  • @BlueGamerDude
    @BlueGamerDude 5 років тому +5

    When we bought our new house we got this old barn filled with old tools. Many saws and axe heads. Even parts of sawmills like big circular blades and frame saws

    • @garethbaus5471
      @garethbaus5471 5 років тому +3

      Sounds like an absolute gold mine for anyone who likes using hand tools.

    • @aumann0452
      @aumann0452 4 роки тому

      Are you guys selling some of these?

  • @hansmuller9575
    @hansmuller9575 6 років тому

    Greetings and congratulations from a small village, located near Frankfurt/Germany. We enjoy first of all your spirit of handling matters and of course the working result. Actually it is art what you deliver. Weiter so! Sigue progressar! Continue to enjoy you and us followers!

  • @filmbluff99
    @filmbluff99 6 років тому

    As always you do a good job, and your skill makes the job look easier than it really was. Good practical saw horse too.

  • @TokyoCraftsman
    @TokyoCraftsman 6 років тому

    A very nice restoration that saw should give another 100 years of service!! (if it is that old)
    I was certainly pleases to see a new video up by you, I hope you and yours are well and look forward to the next video.
    Cheers from Tokyo Japan!

  • @BeardedBored
    @BeardedBored 6 років тому +2

    Thanks so much for posting this. We recovered 2 saws from my great grandfather's barn before the property sold. This is really helpful:-)>

  • @badgoy8439
    @badgoy8439 Рік тому

    that's a badass saw!

  • @michelbrunin7005
    @michelbrunin7005 6 років тому

    Superbe Vidéo De Restauration en plus chaque Travaux sont effectuer a la main avec soins , patience ce que je trouve super pas de nuisance , et un travail précis Bravo Mr. Chickadee.
    Michel De Belgique.

  • @steelshade
    @steelshade 6 років тому

    This does my heart good. I have a old jointer plane used by my grandfather that needs attention...

  • @rodrigolino9094
    @rodrigolino9094 6 років тому +3

    Muito bom!
    Com a modernisação das ferramentas,o homem está perdendo suas habilidades,pra mim,esse trabalho manual,artesanal,tem muito valor.
    Parabéns por preservar suas origens!
    Brasil!

  • @imortaldeadead
    @imortaldeadead 6 років тому

    That’s a lot of saw...looking forward to seeing you using it in the future

  • @gunterschone8402
    @gunterschone8402 6 років тому

    Nice video.
    Great and clean work.
    Restored the saw beautifully

  • @olddawgdreaming5715
    @olddawgdreaming5715 6 років тому

    Great video, very inspirational. Thanks for sharing.

  • @JDLarge
    @JDLarge 6 років тому

    You couldn’t buy a finer handle than that! Great job, I’m sure that saw will give you years of use and miles of cuts... Thanks for sharing 👍

  • @charlesloveday9208
    @charlesloveday9208 6 років тому

    Awesome job on the saw...that old saw is a crazy tool. Ur restoration was spot on & it was sure slinging some sawdust. As always...another fine video! Keep up the amazing videos.

  • @battmann678
    @battmann678 6 років тому

    Nice work as usual. Workmanship and a video really enjoyable to watch.

  • @beepseatsfindingfoodtreasu8756
    @beepseatsfindingfoodtreasu8756 5 років тому +1

    A man after my own heart. I also use restored turn of the century tools exclusively. There's something about shaping wood by hand that no machine, although easier. Can give you the feel of the grain and teach us how to best use it to it's full advantage. I've built items using both methods and the hand tooled products are just better. I have a little over 50 Saw's from two man down to fine backsaws. And all needed to be restored and retoothed followed up with setting the teeth. They are superior to modern Saw's. And I've noticed your saw is nibbed, I have only managed to get a hold of five of them. Hang on to that beauty!
    Love your videos, even if you talk too much😋

  • @Rubbernecker
    @Rubbernecker 6 років тому

    And what a beautiful song it is!!

  • @johncasey1020
    @johncasey1020 2 роки тому

    Once restored, an "old tool" is once again a new tool. For example, an old axe used today for splitting a few logs for the stove is not history. Dig it.

  • @joegrimes6485
    @joegrimes6485 5 років тому

    Nice job sir , I have a similar saw which I’m planning a light restoration. I’m thinking of making it a wall hanger for decoration. I don’t do much timber work. But your knowledge put forth in the video will help me greatly. Thank you and keep up the great work .

  • @wellbbq
    @wellbbq 5 років тому

    I love this Mr. C!! If he don't have the tool he will make one!!!

  • @eb282
    @eb282 6 років тому

    wonderful job with the saw and video

  • @barrylitchfield250
    @barrylitchfield250 6 років тому

    I love to see old, neglected tools brought back to life by a person that actually knows what they're doing. Thanks for sharing. One suggestion.... Get a couple of clamp lights at the hardware store to help illuminate your videos. It would improve the look of your video a lot.

  • @lafuite85
    @lafuite85 6 років тому

    Bonjour bon travail encore une fois

  • @shartne
    @shartne 5 років тому

    Very nice saw.

  • @fernandolobaoemoficnadeapt9197
    @fernandolobaoemoficnadeapt9197 6 років тому

    Os vídeos mais originais e melhores que assisto, são produzidos por você, Parabéns!

  • @sethwarner2540
    @sethwarner2540 6 років тому

    Ooooh, nice edge!

  • @carbonitegamorrean8368
    @carbonitegamorrean8368 6 років тому

    wonderful set of rifflers ya have.

  • @ClarksKentuckyKnives
    @ClarksKentuckyKnives 6 років тому

    Thanks for the video! I bought one a few months ago and it needs restoring. Just need to figure out how to redo the front handle. Looking forward to your video!!!

  • @ahorseman4ever1
    @ahorseman4ever1 6 років тому

    Great video I have so many old saws that were my great grandfather's I just need to have the courage to refurbish them. I'm trying to learn all I can before I tackle them.

    • @MrChickadee
      @MrChickadee  6 років тому +1

      The manual in the descristion is a good read!

    • @ahorseman4ever1
      @ahorseman4ever1 6 років тому

      Mr. Chickadee thank you, i'll be sure and check it out.

    • @1pcfred
      @1pcfred 5 років тому

      Get some junk saws with less sentimental value to practice on first.

  • @drochon6672
    @drochon6672 6 років тому

    I couldn't help but notice that you cut the kerf on your new handle with your left hand and the log with your right hand.
    Nice restoration.

    • @MrChickadee
      @MrChickadee  6 років тому +1

      Yes, well Ive trained myself ambidextrous with most things, still learning to plane lefty though...I find I do it without thinking nowdays

  • @willieboggs7799
    @willieboggs7799 6 років тому

    The magic returns.

  • @craigsudman4556
    @craigsudman4556 5 років тому

    Good stuff, thumbs up.

  • @ChevalSerge
    @ChevalSerge 6 років тому

    Bonjour, il y avait longtemps que l'on ne t'avait vue. Bravo pour la restauration de cette scie.
    Google translation
    Hello, it was a long time since we had seen you. Congratulations for the restoration of this saw.

  • @CharlesSmith-mv4ic
    @CharlesSmith-mv4ic 6 років тому

    Beautiful job. I love your videos keep up the good work

  • @Lemongrasspicker
    @Lemongrasspicker 6 років тому

    Nice work sir, love the saw

  • @garyw5627
    @garyw5627 6 років тому +3

    Beautiful restoration! Is that the Diston 50"? I did a restoration on one a little over a year ago, all except the handle, which was in like new condition. I love the ease with which it cuts. No downward pressure whatsoever. It's weight is enough and with proper set it's a dream to use. Well done, once again. Thank You for posting.

  • @rickholmwood2000
    @rickholmwood2000 6 років тому

    Awesome vid as always. I seem to learn something new in each vid I watch. Now you just need to make a pair of glasses for it and you will have a very nice seesaw

  • @TheVze23sqf
    @TheVze23sqf 6 років тому

    Love your videos.

  • @bigunone
    @bigunone 6 років тому +1

    Now you know why grandpa got so upset when you misused his saw! As always a great video

  • @SuperHurdman
    @SuperHurdman 6 років тому

    A really good rust remover Mr Chickadee is Apple cider vinegar and it is all natural leave it set for a week and take it out and wash it off takes all the rust off. Just letting you know in case you didn't! Another natural rust cleaner is molasses where you mix one part molasses to seven parts water. and submerge the part for a week or so as well. I have used the apple cider before as I don't like any hard acids but cannot say I saw personal evidence for the molasses as I havn't tried it yet. I saw someone doing it with car fenders.

  • @FranksDIY
    @FranksDIY 6 років тому

    Very nice restoration

  • @georgehonk5558
    @georgehonk5558 6 років тому

    What abeauty!

  • @AsriaDurden5558
    @AsriaDurden5558 6 років тому

    Your comment at the beginning of the video made tears come to my eyes. So few people really understand how beautiful the old tools really are. Such a beautiful restoration!
    I recently bought a 2 man 6.5 foot saw that needs new handles, sharpened and some rust removed. I traded my old GE electric double oven for it. So worth the trade! I cant wait to use it with my husband on our new homestead!
    Where do you get the old style tools you use? Are they originals or is there still someplace that makes them?

    • @MrChickadee
      @MrChickadee  6 років тому

      some from ebay, some from the crosscut saw company online

  • @dangilson4036
    @dangilson4036 4 роки тому

    I am surprised that you did not wax the blade. I have seen you do on planes soles. It works good on saws blades too.

  • @williamsnyder740
    @williamsnyder740 6 років тому

    I have watched with great appreciation for your craftsmanship all your videos. Your knowledge and the use of hand tools is admirable to say the least. Where if I might ask have you found all the old hand planes and drills?

    • @MrChickadee
      @MrChickadee  6 років тому

      oh here and there, lots of flea markets and antique stores

  • @shanek6582
    @shanek6582 6 років тому

    I had a tool to set the teeth on big saws like that for 30 years and never used it so I sold it on eBay a couple years ago, wish I still had it I'd send it up.

  • @michaeldougfir9807
    @michaeldougfir9807 5 років тому

    From what I knew previously about crosscut saw maintenance, it was a joy to watch you work.
    For my modern pruning saw I have ordered a "feather file". We will see how that works.
    Basically I am here to learn. But when you put a title up on the screen, please double the time it is up there. I am very literate. So if the time of the titles is too short for me, imagine how little is read be a younger individual, the way education is nowadays.
    Thanks.

  • @michaelbarrett4776
    @michaelbarrett4776 6 років тому

    I enjoy watching your videos. I'm interested in learning how to do this restoration and where you got all the tools for doing so. I have 3, two single person and a 2 person.

    • @MrChickadee
      @MrChickadee  6 років тому

      you can find the tools at crosscut saw company online

    • @PATCsawyer
      @PATCsawyer 6 років тому

      I would warn against the CC Saw Co. Better to find what you need on eBay.

  • @Drake_4
    @Drake_4 2 роки тому

    The way you cut saved my marriage twice.

  • @luismaza79
    @luismaza79 6 років тому

    Great job again! You were lucky that steel was still in good shape! BTW, could you make a video about how to get planks or boards from logs without using power tools? It's a difficult topic! Thanks a lot!

    • @MrChickadee
      @MrChickadee  6 років тому +2

      That would be either riving with wedge or froe, or sawing with a large rip saw. Of the two, riving is the much easier way, but requires very nice logs...we will have to explore this in vido form!

    • @tommycrabtree8079
      @tommycrabtree8079 2 роки тому

      @@MrChickadee yes please do this video!!!
      I know this is an old thread but lots of us are interested in this.

  • @offpherj7884
    @offpherj7884 6 років тому

    Very nice.

  • @marvinostman522
    @marvinostman522 6 років тому +1

    What are you using with the water? Is it a special stone? Never thought of that combination when I have reconditioned old handsaws. Wouldn’t call what I do as restoring.
    Would like to see how you made your small bow saw. I was surprised to your floats with no handles.
    Have you thought of publishing your Pros and Poetry?

    • @MrChickadee
      @MrChickadee  6 років тому +1

      just an axe stone and old broken scythe stone, could be a piece of sandstone or pumice too, we have a video of making a bowsaw, just larger, someday id like to publish

  • @mattclark5480
    @mattclark5480 6 років тому

    Great video thanks👍

  • @leonardodesverdicio5862
    @leonardodesverdicio5862 6 років тому

    Each video is excellent in every way, I’ve learned so much from watching and practice my own hewing and notching and so on. I’ve also always wanted those pants! Where do you get yours? Thanks so much!

    • @MrChickadee
      @MrChickadee  6 років тому

      search frontier classics brand, and go one size larger than normal

  • @lastingbuild1373
    @lastingbuild1373 6 років тому +2

    Great restoration! Did the blade require straightening? That I’ve always struggled with.

    • @MrChickadee
      @MrChickadee  6 років тому +1

      Normally a 4lb hammer on the anvil does the trick with a few taps, this one did!

    • @lastingbuild1373
      @lastingbuild1373 6 років тому

      Mr. Chickadee it sounds like I need a heavier hammer

  • @MathieuDAVID
    @MathieuDAVID 6 років тому +2

    Awesome! Whats the name of the song at 10:15 please?

  • @wanderlustjake
    @wanderlustjake 6 років тому

    Glad to see another great video! I've been eyeing the two man saws, I think you pushed me towards getting one after seeing how fast they do cut. Curious if you referred to the USDA Crosscut Saw Manual and video to learn how to set up the saw?
    Thank you again for another relaxing video.

    • @MrChickadee
      @MrChickadee  6 років тому +1

      Yes indeed, I linked the manual in the description.

    • @wanderlustjake
      @wanderlustjake 6 років тому

      @@MrChickadee sorry about that, helps if I open things all the way ; )