Dagda and Mara can Instakill with Buffs and Debuffs

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  • Опубліковано 8 січ 2025
  • Yes it is true. I will let the video speak for itself
    #smtv #smtvv #smtvvengeance #shinmegamitenseiv #shinmegamitenseivvengeance #shinmegamitensei5 #atlus #mara #dagda
    Credit to ‪@cantthinkofbettername5065‬ for the discovery
    Thumbnail by ‪@TLGR‬

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  • @jaffinator2166
    @jaffinator2166  21 годину тому +40

    Before some asks. Yes. This does work with Charge Effect skills and Healing Skills

  • @josiahball7799
    @josiahball7799 21 годину тому +59

    "Oh, so they have increased odds of their instakills when buffed!"
    "wait what the fu-"

  • @matthaisstupidus
    @matthaisstupidus 11 годин тому +14

    The awkward silence is amazing, its like the characters are taking a moment to comprehend why they feel kinda funny, then boom they suffer a heart attack

    • @jaffinator2166
      @jaffinator2166  11 годин тому +2

      Like that one gif of Trixie’s friend from Fairly Odd Parents on the escalator

  • @Moonshine568
    @Moonshine568 19 годин тому +32

    Nahobino: The power of friendship!-
    Dagda: *Sorry Kid, Friends aren't allowed.*

  • @xigabrelless1980
    @xigabrelless1980 21 годину тому +42

    The more i learn about the game funnier it gets

    • @jaffinator2166
      @jaffinator2166  21 годину тому +1

      @@xigabrelless1980 ditto 🤣

    • @drooprtroopr6969
      @drooprtroopr6969 21 годину тому +7

      The innates can have simple definitions yet still be abused. It's like saying you have power the control water: it doesn't say you can control ice, but it doesn't say you can't.

  • @teatimespooks
    @teatimespooks 21 годину тому +32

    Dagda out here supporting his party to bed or the grave

  • @wishonpleiades6288
    @wishonpleiades6288 20 годин тому +19

    young man: I want to protect my friends!
    dagda:

    • @jaffinator2166
      @jaffinator2166  20 годин тому +5

      @@wishonpleiades6288 Sorry Kid, you don’t need friends

  • @Richterbelmont96
    @Richterbelmont96 17 годин тому +14

    I was going to comment a joke for the first encounter, but dagda killing a party member with buffs is way funnier that anything I could've written

    • @jaffinator2166
      @jaffinator2166  11 годин тому

      @@Richterbelmont96 indeed. I couldn’t stop laughing when I saw it 🤣

  • @Magekhight
    @Magekhight 20 годин тому +17

    "I don't feel so good Mr. Nahobino"

  • @brenden7245
    @brenden7245 21 годину тому +16

    Now only if smt v had the yugioh equivalent to Shien’s last spy could we hypothetically have Demi fiend’s team insta kill themselves.

    • @jaffinator2166
      @jaffinator2166  21 годину тому

      @@brenden7245 true but DF is immune to Bullshit

  • @paulofsurrey4216
    @paulofsurrey4216 9 годин тому +3

    What a discovery. Those of us with Irish relatives have met someone like Dagda.

  • @cantthinkofbettername5065
    @cantthinkofbettername5065 18 годин тому +10

    Something tells me the developers forgot Potential exists while making Vengeance.

    • @jaffinator2166
      @jaffinator2166  11 годин тому +2

      @@cantthinkofbettername5065 to be fair, so did most people.

  • @soulhacker566
    @soulhacker566 17 годин тому +10

    Dagda: *casts Marakukaja*
    (Awkward silence)
    Nahobino: *fucking dies*
    Nothing personal kiddo

    • @jaffinator2166
      @jaffinator2166  11 годин тому +1

      @@soulhacker566 he’ll never be Nanashi in Dagda’s eyes

  • @Arsearis
    @Arsearis 21 годину тому +22

    Smt v vengeance buff and debuff run only when

    • @jaffinator2166
      @jaffinator2166  21 годину тому +4

      If this is what I can expect, never 🤣

  • @General_C
    @General_C 19 годин тому +5

    All that's missing from this is the metal pipe when the Nahobino falls in the Game Over cutscene.
    *Also what the fu-*

  • @JohnYakooza
    @JohnYakooza 12 годин тому +3

    I wish some staff at Atlus actually found this while playtesting and than silently remove the positive Support potential for Dagda

    • @jaffinator2166
      @jaffinator2166  10 годин тому +2

      Honestly Potential is so niche that it doesn’t surprise me this got passed QA

  • @tsyumamatsuthehavenofguard32
    @tsyumamatsuthehavenofguard32 9 годин тому +3

    i guess you can say... mara is hitting his clima-
    *wheeze* goodbye monetization

    • @jaffinator2166
      @jaffinator2166  9 годин тому +1

      @@tsyumamatsuthehavenofguard32 LMAO I’m already risking it with Mara in the thumbnail

  • @wantediscool
    @wantediscool 19 годин тому +5

    this made me laugh way more than it should've

    • @jaffinator2166
      @jaffinator2166  19 годин тому

      @@wantediscool I was laughing for 5 minutes straight!

  • @WilliamLein
    @WilliamLein 8 годин тому +3

    It’s funny because it also happens to the Nahobino as well

  • @Ziroikabi
    @Ziroikabi 19 годин тому +10

    I have been summoned to do the level 1 crook vs level 999 masa oneshot 🧘‍♀

    • @jaffinator2166
      @jaffinator2166  19 годин тому +2

      @@Ziroikabi 🤣🤣

    • @cantthinkofbettername5065
      @cantthinkofbettername5065 18 годин тому +3

      Unironically that is probably the most practical application of this, since it means the Confusion RNG loop only has to go so far before the loop is guaranteed (to be specific, you need 3 meter refills, one for Conserve, one for Dana's Wisdom #1, one for Potential)

    • @bothdoorscares3878
      @bothdoorscares3878 14 годин тому +1

      Hmmmmm wouldn't just starting with Dis and Norn do the trick?
      What I mean is, do not start with Strategize. Start with Potential and have Dis, Norn and Dagda for the starting setup. And then kill demons. While MC summons in a loop.
      Ideally a press turn was created beforehand via Nuwa. Or even get a dodge with MC for 5 full, 1 half.
      Of course, the first demons used are for Potential and Nahobeeho to start with.

  • @hungergamer4710
    @hungergamer4710 12 годин тому +2

    I dont envy the guy who found that out the hard way

    • @jaffinator2166
      @jaffinator2166  11 годин тому

      @@hungergamer4710 actually it was super easy. Barely an inconvenience

  • @PianoCrab
    @PianoCrab 20 годин тому +5

    This HAS to be an oversight 💀

    • @jaffinator2166
      @jaffinator2166  20 годин тому +4

      @@PianoCrab yup! It’s why Mara and Dagda don’t have healing or support potential

  • @Cheerful_Bliss
    @Cheerful_Bliss 21 годину тому +2

    Dagda has been one of my faves since his debut in smt4a good to know he’s still viable.

    • @jaffinator2166
      @jaffinator2166  21 годину тому +2

      @@Cheerful_Bliss yup that’s definitely one way to put it 🤣
      But in all seriousness he’s really good

  • @ethermeda
    @ethermeda 19 годин тому +3

    I feel like this could definitely be used for some sort of a cheese strat

    • @jaffinator2166
      @jaffinator2166  19 годин тому +1

      The Megaten Datamining server are already hard at work theorycrafting

  • @lemmon_Grove2533
    @lemmon_Grove2533 19 годин тому +5

    Did… did Dagda just fuckin cast eternal rest on us 😭😭

    • @jaffinator2166
      @jaffinator2166  19 годин тому +1

      Essentially

    • @lemmon_Grove2533
      @lemmon_Grove2533 8 годин тому

      @ Good thing he isn’t a natural buffer then 😭✋ Cuz his innate wasn’t built with him playing buffer in mind

  • @Aquasition1
    @Aquasition1 21 годину тому +5

    That is one of the worst ways to die. XD

    • @jaffinator2166
      @jaffinator2166  21 годину тому

      @@Aquasition1 yup 🤣

    • @Aquasition1
      @Aquasition1 21 годину тому

      @@jaffinator2166 I haven't gotten far enough in my own LP of SMT5V to try this, but I should do it once cuz it seems funny.

  • @Ester_Johana
    @Ester_Johana 15 годин тому +1

    Dagda making you kill you friends again

  • @screwtokaiba
    @screwtokaiba 20 годин тому +3

    I was theorycrafting in my head while watching this video since like i thought if you use Charge for example, the IK would be aimed on the opponent
    Then when you casted Marakukaja i was like "OH NO NO NO NO NO"
    Unfortunately the peak meme of using Recarm to revive, then proc 20% IK chance can't happen lul
    Finally the fastest way to set up Arioch!

    • @cantthinkofbettername5065
      @cantthinkofbettername5065 18 годин тому

      That sounds viable actually on paper. Just get Dagda a huge ass luck advantage over the revive target.
      EDIT: the stock gives them protection sadly.

  • @CyraTheDead
    @CyraTheDead 8 годин тому +1

    Died through aura 💀

  • @Megidolaon999
    @Megidolaon999 Годину тому +1

    One of the only things I like about SMTVV aid the innate skills. This rules. Learn from this ATLUS, as-well as your mistakes.

    • @jaffinator2166
      @jaffinator2166  Годину тому

      Here here!

    • @Megidolaon999
      @Megidolaon999 Годину тому

      @ Feel like the biggest thing holding this game back was the fact it was a remake of SMTV. It’s great for SMTV, because it sucked imo, but it’s terrible for SMTVV because you can’t fix what’s already broke 😑

  • @DiegoG2004
    @DiegoG2004 14 годин тому +2

    By making them good at buffs, the buffs can also instakill. Whoops.

    • @jaffinator2166
      @jaffinator2166  11 годин тому +1

      @@DiegoG2004 dev oversight. It happens

    • @DiegoG2004
      @DiegoG2004 10 годин тому

      @@jaffinator2166 Way too many combos for them to verify everything, it's fine.

  • @viniciuscallefi9055
    @viniciuscallefi9055 3 години тому +1

    HAHHAHAHA, THIS IS SO FUN!!!

  • @DrMDC
    @DrMDC 19 годин тому +3

    What did I just watch

  • @Munogitagaharu
    @Munogitagaharu 16 годин тому +1

    I actually thought this was a fucking mod until I read it carefully, HOW DID THE DEVS MISS THIS?!?

    • @Munogitagaharu
      @Munogitagaharu 16 годин тому

      Actually since Sempiternal has potential instead of critical I wonder if this will occur?? Unless Mara’s and Dagda’s innate changed

    • @jaffinator2166
      @jaffinator2166  11 годин тому

      @@Munogitagaharu it’s probably why they didn’t give either support or healing Potential. Plus Potential is very obscure. Not many people use it

    • @yoso378
      @yoso378 Годину тому

      Maybe they didn't? It's technically doing exactly what the abilities say lol

  • @MisterLG08
    @MisterLG08 14 годин тому +1

    so if just have mara in the party along with dagda and omagatoki: potental i can one shot everything?

    • @jaffinator2166
      @jaffinator2166  11 годин тому

      @@MisterLG08 no. You don’t need both. Either one of them and a Foul-race demon to activate Potential

    • @MisterLG08
      @MisterLG08 2 години тому

      @jaffinator2166 ahhh interesting 🕵

  • @machupichu18
    @machupichu18 15 годин тому +1

    I'm sorry what.

  • @valletas
    @valletas 16 годин тому +2

    WAIT that means they also can kill with ailments

    • @Not_Alanius
      @Not_Alanius 14 годин тому

      Dormina Gaming

    • @valletas
      @valletas 13 годин тому

      @Not_Alanius chaotic dormina gaming

    • @valletas
      @valletas 13 годин тому

      @Not_Alanius give dagda dormina, max his ailment potential and then have a loa be on the field
      Probably gonna be a guaranteed insta kill, i feel like this can be exploited against demi fiend and satan, that is if their minions arent immune to death

    • @jaffinator2166
      @jaffinator2166  11 годин тому

      @@valletas yup. Mara is actually tailor build for this

    • @cantthinkofbettername5065
      @cantthinkofbettername5065 10 годин тому

      Ailment skills aren't affected, the game explicitly checks to make sure the skill used is not an ailment skill.

  • @Kuraihoshi_Tomi
    @Kuraihoshi_Tomi 21 годину тому +3

    Now try this on demi fiend XD

    • @jaffinator2166
      @jaffinator2166  21 годину тому +2

      @@Kuraihoshi_Tomi can’t. Instakill immunity

    • @Kuraihoshi_Tomi
      @Kuraihoshi_Tomi 21 годину тому +1

      ​@@jaffinator2166 damn 😂 Atleast we now have another mitama farming strat

    • @thepurplemudkip9998
      @thepurplemudkip9998 20 годин тому

      @@Kuraihoshi_Tomiloa + yabusame shot matador works better without having to use omagatoki potential

    • @Kuraihoshi_Tomi
      @Kuraihoshi_Tomi 20 годин тому

      ​@@thepurplemudkip9998Yup, that's lineup I went with when farming mitamas tho replace matador with mot

    • @hungergamer4710
      @hungergamer4710 12 годин тому

      ​@@Kuraihoshi_TomiI didnt even think of that

  • @valletas
    @valletas 16 годин тому +1

    The hell