been on kbm since the start of Halo Infinite. Love it to bits....but it is frustrating to get caught up in close range fights. The aim friction is a slight help. Love the movement like crazy. It feels a bunch more free. Settings are 2150 DPI... 0.255 sensi... vertical 1.7 horizontal 1.6
I love there is just so much similarity and sentiments I can share with you in this video. I always felt MnK was a calling to me. I just always felt so restricted on the controller. I feel like I have this mentality block when using the controller. Also it just feels so empty after a hard and especially competitive match cuz it felt like I made no progress in terms of consistency. This feeling of "producing and even progressing my ever evolving consistency" is a feeling I've never felt until I started using MnK. I don't know, I just feel so....free when using MnK. And damn. Is it a good feeling....
Never played ranked but i grind social pretty hard, there’s one huge advantage of controller players in social: the sidekick. Whenever i touch a controller i just destroy people with the sidekick, the bullet magnetism on controller negates any amount of bloom so you pretty much just need to spam it as fast as possible. I haven’t been able to fully make to switch to mnk because the sidekick on mnk feels so bad in comparison
I’m mouse and keyboard since the start. I get so frustrated on a few things and hoping for some of your feedback on it. 1. What can I do to increase my chances on winning a close range gun fight? I seem to always loose them. Sucks!! 2. What mouse sensitivity settings do you suggest? I’ve tried everything. 3. I always play solo que. how can I get onto a fire team? I’m what you call an old timer, no spring chicken here. I’m 50 years old but I’m a bad ass at the game since the beginning of time. Appreciate any feedback. 😊
Yo! 1. MnK needs to relay heavily on movement/hard cover when fighting cqb, diving in and out of cover and taken pop shots rather than a straight flat 1v1, and dont be scared to back down and reposition if you feel your self loosing the 1v1 2. Mouse dpi: 2000 In game mouse sens 1.100, 1.6 vertical, 1.6 horizontal, 106 FoV 3. Open mic. 90% of the people on my friends list are gamers I met in ranked using open mic, just keep at it and eventually you will find someone you vibe with!
1. What can I do to increase my chances on winning a close range gun fight? I seem to always loose them. Sucks!! >>>> Like Noble7en said, using cover and jiggle-peaking works best. Pick and choose your fights. You don't always have to commit. 2. What mouse sensitivity settings do you suggest? I’ve tried everything. >>>> what's your set up? Do you use a full mouse mat? Or using the standard square mousepad? Settings can heavily affect your playstyle. But your playstyle will also rely on the physical restrictions you have when using MnK. 3. I always play solo que. how can I get onto a fire team? I’m what you call an old timer, no spring chicken here. I’m 50 years old but I’m a bad ass at the game since the beginning of time. >>>> If you need a fireteam, there are a bunch of places you can look into starting up a fireteam... LFG in the XBox gamebar might help, but it's really bugged. You can join Facebook Groups. Discord is also a great resource to find players to run with. If you ever wanna run matches, you can join me and my crew....but we're in the Philippines. So...that might mess up ping and server latency for any of us. I'm used to the higher ping and delays...but....alot of players in the USA prefer lower ping. (nothing over 40 based on who I've talked to). But playing with my crew might give you 200+ ping...which is a nightmare for many I've played with XD. I know... a little too long to read....but thanks for your time hahaha.
Remember that what little aim assist MnK does get is only activated when you're moving. I use a strafe pattern, not to avoid getting shot (although it helps a little...) but to activate aim assist on MnK when using a BR. If you find aim challenging, less is more to get consistent. FOV between 97 and 110 so your enemies are nice and fat... mouse 400dpi so you're not twitchy and maybe 0.8 to 1.2 in game mouse sens... That's SLOW but it's a baseline and if it's frustrating... you can start pushing the sens up. For the scopes, I recently started using 1.6 and it's been great. I took that from Scoobmeister one of the best MnK halo players and it feels good. Just take that into academy and tweak till it feels good. And definitely what Noble said. Use Cover. Use all the power ups and try to make it as unfair as possible. Go with teammates and get assists and wins. Clean up kills. Halo is so team based compared to other FPS. Also if you are looking for teams to play with, if you use Discord the AbvAvgCody and Vanadam voice lobbies are usually populated. Nice guys just looking to get better. They even have coaches in there to help.
Great video man and i noticed the game feeling different on controller today. I thought i was just having a bad day. I even double checked my settings to see of things changed. Extremely weird
I appreciate it! Yea controller is super inconsistent, your settings don’t actually change, but sens/AA/ramping randomly feels off, like your playing a whole different game ( im not sure if this is a controller on pc problem exclusively)
Yea I definitely agree matchmaking should at least be input based, I think its just due to population, throw us all in one queue and we get games faster
@@GoldBean2752 used to play halo CE back in the day with some of the top 10 players in that game. Sniper only and with infinity... it's the game. It's why I'm laughing at what counts on controller cause I've tested both extensively. It's wild.
I wish m&k was the meta of this game, right now with season 5 the game looks fun but ranked with the new weapon feels even more difficult to win 1v1 vs controller guys. Do you know some pro or good players that still play halo in m&k?
Cant think of any pros that are MnK, as for good players, jus me 😅 I dont think I can name another MnK player, I know active use to play MnK but im pretty sure he dropped Halo for CS2, maybe he will come back w new season tho 🤷♂️
Bro I feel you man as the rare few of the PC halo players I just want to say they need to die down that aim assist on controller or even better BRING BACK PC ONLY RANKED !
finally ! when I ask people if it wasn't better to play halo with the mouse I only received insults, I tried the controller but apart from the aim assist there is no comparison. Thank you.
M&KB player here, I feel as I’ve played so much on it now I can’t go back to the controller… and that’s saying alot considering I was basically born with a controller in my hand lol. I know it’s just personal preference though
As an mnk player, having aim assist just feels wrong. It completely lowers the skill ceiling. 343 only kept it so it could be viable against controller which I get. But if they want more mnk players there needs to be support for mnk only tournaments and playlists, at least for ranked playlists w/o aim assist. I’ve hit onyx in arena every time I’ve hopped on infinite with mnk but after that it feels so stale. Controller is just not my thing anymore. After playing halo for years on controller, then switching to PC I have no interest in playing controller. That’s why I’m on PC
As a mouse player and also a control player, in my opinion the movement is much more comfortable with a mouse, how easy it is to react when shooting from one target to another, and something that I notice when playing on control is the difference in aim assist, you have more probability of delivering the coup de grace as a control vs mouse user and also ranged duels are better with control. In my personal taste, although aim assist is an advantage in many situations, I prefer to play with a mouse due to mobility.
MNK player since launch and is not viable. You have to play constantly to your strength (long range) and bail for any other fight. 95% all close medium range fights you are going to lose. Until that is fixed why is any mnk player going to come to the game for being stomped in 80% of the battles in this game? (talking more or less same skilled players in the battle) they removed the MNK only playlist because people left the game, now we are 200 mnk players left and is not worth i guess, but for me is the only solution, play other mnk players exclusively that is the only fair fights i dont have any issue losing, i know i missed and he didnt so all good, versus a controller is like how much more do i have to do to make the cpu miss my character
Its always been viable. Highest I got in ranked was Diamond 3 as solo queue player. I love how you can have faster sensitivity than controller players. So you can ninja a lot easier or out play them.
I dont care what anyone says. Shooters are supposed to be played with MnK but especially without aim assist. Fuck the guy that ever invented aim assist. Its an absurd concept which people see as "normal" now.... Its absolutely mindblowing to me anyone even wants aim assist
I find kbm extremely easy lol, I stomp on every controller I find but maybe thats just me. Aim assist doesn't mess you up if you know how to aim. I recommend playing against Spartan bots in customs to get better, their aim is pretty accurate to controller players.
Sadly no because of the mnk aim assist, which just handcuffs mouse and keyboard's skill ceiling to its skill floor, giving its skill gap very little room to breathe. The mnk aim assist just makes most of the adjustments on mnk straight up impossible or frustrating, and replaces them with having to rely on the unreliable aim assist. The mnk aim assist needs to be reverted for mnk to be viable in Halo Infinite, and controller aim assist needs to be fundamentally reworked to feel more seamless and also more fair to play with and against.
then they add the dmr and now its worse then it ever has been before im missing shots even though im on there head i hear the gun go off do not see there shields flash shits getting out of hand i didnt know they could make the game worse then it was before
MnK is broken with precision weapon + the melee (you can turn around in 0.2 sc, whereas on controller its very very hard). Also they reduced aim assist on controller and added some for the MnK. The only advantage of the controllers on Infinite is close gun combat with Ar or stuff like that. Otherwise MnK is very very strong IMO.
@@Noble7eN I am the aforementionned ennemy ☠ Not even mentionning the out of nowhere ninjas i can receive sometimes 🤣 But you know at least there is a room for MnK now, whereas it was not the case in previous titles so, it's not that enraging to face pc player, but rather quite challenging !
MnK slaps on halo. Its probably better than controler on average. Plus mnk have aim assist now simce season 2 i think. That combined with micro corrections, straffing inertia is almost zero compared to controller, movement is cracked, reaction time is faster, you can 180 turn faster, snipe is more lethal. Pretty much mnk have it over controler to the point where its probably unbalanced.
I think controller dominates the close quarters engagements, but I do 100% agree movement feels INSANELY better, reaction time (especially if they at a higher elevation then you) feels way better, and the snipe (even tho I still need a lot more practice with) seems way more lethal!
I bought a controller for the first time in my life for Halo Infinite Season 1/2, my roller kda, accuracy, damage dealt, beats my mnk which I played my entire life on. Not undermining your opinion, but if you think mnk beats controller on pure shooting especially pre mnk aim assist buff, you are pretty lost.
Real talk. Mnk is a superior input. That’s why I don’t rate mnk players i feel like it’s the easy rout to be good on halo. So many noobs cracked on the game on mnk. That’s why mnk dilutes the skill level of this game.
Idk I think if you’re using controller on halo infinite you at major disadvantage. I’ve tried controller and it feels disgusting. And also when I’m up against a controller player it’s the easiest back smack because it takes them 5 minutes to turn around
Definitely has bullet magnetism, aa is up in the air, some people swear it does some swear it dont, but aa (on MnK) hasnt been hard confirmed by anyone from 343 yet
Hard to say for sure 🤷♂️ feel like it depends on the player, me personally im way better on controller, but I feel like I have higher potential on MnK once I really get it down
If you think close quarters is better on controller its probably that you are using mouse with lowish sensitivity and wrist movements. This means you have good aim at long range but you struggle with fast turns Instead, use a larger mouse pad, still with low sensitivity, but focus on moving your whole arm more. You should be able to do a full 180 by moving your mouse from center to edge of mouse pad for close quarters, but still get to use wrist movements for precise aiming this way
M&k is op… the movement, strafing, tracing, instant flicks, instant turn, 180 ninjas with slight aim assist all capped at 150-200+ fps … crossplay needs to be turned off
I left halo because of just opimization issues and the terrible micro transactions. Came back after a year just to find out they added aim assist to MnK. Absolutely atrocious. In 40ish hours i hit diamond 3 and quit after the issues. Its insane that they have yet to remove aim assist. For the record aim assist is still there. So i dont know what your talking about. The rotational drift is still there.
been on kbm since the start of Halo Infinite. Love it to bits....but it is frustrating to get caught up in close range fights. The aim friction is a slight help. Love the movement like crazy. It feels a bunch more free. Settings are 2150 DPI... 0.255 sensi... vertical 1.7 horizontal 1.6
mouse sensitivity in the game is 0.255? It feels like not moving at all
@@hyperactivepuss I'm glad someone noticed. Hahaha. I tuned my mouse DPI to 2150 to compensate the lower mouse sens.
idk why, but for me, it used to feel good on M&K. These past weeks it feels like a mess. I can't hit headshots anymore
Same here, and all other players are hitting every shot
I've been mouse and keyboard on my laptop since the BETA!! It feels so good now
I love there is just so much similarity and sentiments I can share with you in this video. I always felt MnK was a calling to me. I just always felt so restricted on the controller. I feel like I have this mentality block when using the controller. Also it just feels so empty after a hard and especially competitive match cuz it felt like I made no progress in terms of consistency. This feeling of "producing and even progressing my ever evolving consistency" is a feeling I've never felt until I started using MnK. I don't know, I just feel so....free when using MnK. And damn. Is it a good feeling....
Never played ranked but i grind social pretty hard, there’s one huge advantage of controller players in social: the sidekick. Whenever i touch a controller i just destroy people with the sidekick, the bullet magnetism on controller negates any amount of bloom so you pretty much just need to spam it as fast as possible. I haven’t been able to fully make to switch to mnk because the sidekick on mnk feels so bad in comparison
Tru, when ever I pick up the side kick I just miss controller 😂
I’m mouse and keyboard since the start. I get so frustrated on a few things and hoping for some of your feedback on it.
1. What can I do to increase my chances on winning a close range gun fight? I seem to always loose them. Sucks!!
2. What mouse sensitivity settings do you suggest? I’ve tried everything.
3. I always play solo que. how can I get onto a fire team? I’m what you call an old timer, no spring chicken here. I’m 50 years old but I’m a bad ass at the game since the beginning of time.
Appreciate any feedback. 😊
Yo!
1. MnK needs to relay heavily on movement/hard cover when fighting cqb, diving in and out of cover and taken pop shots rather than a straight flat 1v1, and dont be scared to back down and reposition if you feel your self loosing the 1v1
2. Mouse dpi: 2000
In game mouse sens 1.100, 1.6 vertical, 1.6 horizontal, 106 FoV
3. Open mic. 90% of the people on my friends list are gamers I met in ranked using open mic, just keep at it and eventually you will find someone you vibe with!
1. What can I do to increase my chances on winning a close range gun fight? I seem to always loose them. Sucks!!
>>>> Like Noble7en said, using cover and jiggle-peaking works best. Pick and choose your fights. You don't always have to commit.
2. What mouse sensitivity settings do you suggest? I’ve tried everything.
>>>> what's your set up? Do you use a full mouse mat? Or using the standard square mousepad? Settings can heavily affect your playstyle. But your playstyle will also rely on the physical restrictions you have when using MnK.
3. I always play solo que. how can I get onto a fire team? I’m what you call an old timer, no spring chicken here. I’m 50 years old but I’m a bad ass at the game since the beginning of time.
>>>> If you need a fireteam, there are a bunch of places you can look into starting up a fireteam... LFG in the XBox gamebar might help, but it's really bugged. You can join Facebook Groups. Discord is also a great resource to find players to run with. If you ever wanna run matches, you can join me and my crew....but we're in the Philippines. So...that might mess up ping and server latency for any of us. I'm used to the higher ping and delays...but....alot of players in the USA prefer lower ping. (nothing over 40 based on who I've talked to). But playing with my crew might give you 200+ ping...which is a nightmare for many I've played with XD.
I know... a little too long to read....but thanks for your time hahaha.
Remember that what little aim assist MnK does get is only activated when you're moving. I use a strafe pattern, not to avoid getting shot (although it helps a little...) but to activate aim assist on MnK when using a BR. If you find aim challenging, less is more to get consistent. FOV between 97 and 110 so your enemies are nice and fat... mouse 400dpi so you're not twitchy and maybe 0.8 to 1.2 in game mouse sens... That's SLOW but it's a baseline and if it's frustrating... you can start pushing the sens up. For the scopes, I recently started using 1.6 and it's been great. I took that from Scoobmeister one of the best MnK halo players and it feels good. Just take that into academy and tweak till it feels good. And definitely what Noble said. Use Cover. Use all the power ups and try to make it as unfair as possible. Go with teammates and get assists and wins. Clean up kills. Halo is so team based compared to other FPS.
Also if you are looking for teams to play with, if you use Discord the AbvAvgCody and Vanadam voice lobbies are usually populated. Nice guys just looking to get better. They even have coaches in there to help.
The mnk aim assist means that there is no good sensitivity choice
Great video man and i noticed the game feeling different on controller today. I thought i was just having a bad day. I even double checked my settings to see of things changed. Extremely weird
I appreciate it!
Yea controller is super inconsistent, your settings don’t actually change, but sens/AA/ramping randomly feels off, like your playing a whole different game ( im not sure if this is a controller on pc problem exclusively)
Everything you outlined is why Console players want the option to turn Crossplay OFF
Yea I definitely agree matchmaking should at least be input based, I think its just due to population, throw us all in one queue and we get games faster
Console has the edge against Mouse and Keyboard... so...
I think it's the other way around, but yeah, crossplay is killing PC gaming.
On controller it feels like my sensitivity is changing from match to match, changing over to m&k. It’s tough going.
the inconsistency on controller was one of the major reasons I made the switch to MnK, that and a new challenge, tryna get back into onyx on MnK
Me on MnK hitting headshots and watching them "miss"
Switches to controller: misses and hits headshots consistently.
Its broken 😂
yep. the sniper especially feels bad on mouse and keyboard, but that might just be that I play on 25-30 fps.
@@GoldBean2752 used to play halo CE back in the day with some of the top 10 players in that game. Sniper only and with infinity... it's the game.
It's why I'm laughing at what counts on controller cause I've tested both extensively. It's wild.
I wish m&k was the meta of this game, right now with season 5 the game looks fun but ranked with the new weapon feels even more difficult to win 1v1 vs controller guys. Do you know some pro or good players that still play halo in m&k?
Cant think of any pros that are MnK, as for good players, jus me 😅 I dont think I can name another MnK player, I know active use to play MnK but im pretty sure he dropped Halo for CS2, maybe he will come back w new season tho 🤷♂️
wow nice... nice video
I appreciate it!
Do a setting vid
All ready did!
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Bro I feel you man as the rare few of the PC halo players I just want to say they need to die down that aim assist on controller or even better BRING BACK PC ONLY RANKED !
I don think theres enough of MnK players to make a pc only playlist 😅
finally ! when I ask people if it wasn't better to play halo with the mouse I only received insults,
I tried the controller but apart from the aim assist there is no comparison. Thank you.
Yessir 🫡🙏
M&KB player here, I feel as I’ve played so much on it now I can’t go back to the controller… and that’s saying alot considering I was basically born with a controller in my hand lol. I know it’s just personal preference though
Same 🫡
As an mnk player, having aim assist just feels wrong. It completely lowers the skill ceiling. 343 only kept it so it could be viable against controller which I get. But if they want more mnk players there needs to be support for mnk only tournaments and playlists, at least for ranked playlists w/o aim assist.
I’ve hit onyx in arena every time I’ve hopped on infinite with mnk but after that it feels so stale. Controller is just not my thing anymore. After playing halo for years on controller, then switching to PC I have no interest in playing controller. That’s why I’m on PC
As a mouse player and also a control player, in my opinion the movement is much more comfortable with a mouse, how easy it is to react when shooting from one target to another, and something that I notice when playing on control is the difference in aim assist, you have more probability of delivering the coup de grace as a control vs mouse user and also ranged duels are better with control. In my personal taste, although aim assist is an advantage in many situations, I prefer to play with a mouse due to mobility.
MNK player since launch and is not viable. You have to play constantly to your strength (long range) and bail for any other fight. 95% all close medium range fights you are going to lose. Until that is fixed why is any mnk player going to come to the game for being stomped in 80% of the battles in this game? (talking more or less same skilled players in the battle) they removed the MNK only playlist because people left the game, now we are 200 mnk players left and is not worth i guess, but for me is the only solution, play other mnk players exclusively that is the only fair fights i dont have any issue losing, i know i missed and he didnt so all good, versus a controller is like how much more do i have to do to make the cpu miss my character
Its always been viable. Highest I got in ranked was Diamond 3 as solo queue player. I love how you can have faster sensitivity than controller players. So you can ninja a lot easier or out play them.
I dont care what anyone says. Shooters are supposed to be played with MnK but especially without aim assist. Fuck the guy that ever invented aim assist. Its an absurd concept which people see as "normal" now.... Its absolutely mindblowing to me anyone even wants aim assist
I find kbm extremely easy lol, I stomp on every controller I find but maybe thats just me. Aim assist doesn't mess you up if you know how to aim. I recommend playing against Spartan bots in customs to get better, their aim is pretty accurate to controller players.
Sadly no because of the mnk aim assist, which just handcuffs mouse and keyboard's skill ceiling to its skill floor, giving its skill gap very little room to breathe. The mnk aim assist just makes most of the adjustments on mnk straight up impossible or frustrating, and replaces them with having to rely on the unreliable aim assist. The mnk aim assist needs to be reverted for mnk to be viable in Halo Infinite, and controller aim assist needs to be fundamentally reworked to feel more seamless and also more fair to play with and against.
then they add the dmr and now its worse then it ever has been before im missing shots even though im on there head i hear the gun go off do not see there shields flash shits getting out of hand i didnt know they could make the game worse then it was before
Kbm is God to me on Halo
@@XTLCE im enjoying it for sure
MnK is broken with precision weapon + the melee (you can turn around in 0.2 sc, whereas on controller its very very hard). Also they reduced aim assist on controller and added some for the MnK. The only advantage of the controllers on Infinite is close gun combat with Ar or stuff like that. Otherwise MnK is very very strong IMO.
The instant 180 melee are funny af to pull off, I know they enemy raging when I hit him with one lmao
@@Noble7eN I am the aforementionned ennemy ☠ Not even mentionning the out of nowhere ninjas i can receive sometimes 🤣 But you know at least there is a room for MnK now, whereas it was not the case in previous titles so, it's not that enraging to face pc player, but rather quite challenging !
they did not reduce controller aim assist. They reduced aim assist on some guns and that applies to mnk and controller
MnK slaps on halo. Its probably better than controler on average. Plus mnk have aim assist now simce season 2 i think. That combined with micro corrections, straffing inertia is almost zero compared to controller, movement is cracked, reaction time is faster, you can 180 turn faster, snipe is more lethal. Pretty much mnk have it over controler to the point where its probably unbalanced.
I think controller dominates the close quarters engagements, but I do 100% agree movement feels INSANELY better, reaction time (especially if they at a higher elevation then you) feels way better, and the snipe (even tho I still need a lot more practice with) seems way more lethal!
I bought a controller for the first time in my life for Halo Infinite Season 1/2, my roller kda, accuracy, damage dealt, beats my mnk which I played my entire life on.
Not undermining your opinion, but if you think mnk beats controller on pure shooting especially pre mnk aim assist buff, you are pretty lost.
Real talk. Mnk is a superior input. That’s why I don’t rate mnk players i feel like it’s the easy rout to be good on halo. So many noobs cracked on the game on mnk. That’s why mnk dilutes the skill level of this game.
Idk I think if you’re using controller on halo infinite you at major disadvantage. I’ve tried controller and it feels disgusting. And also when I’m up against a controller player it’s the easiest back smack because it takes them 5 minutes to turn around
M & K here. I feel like mouse has aim assist or some kind of bullet magnetism.
Definitely has bullet magnetism, aa is up in the air, some people swear it does some swear it dont, but aa (on MnK) hasnt been hard confirmed by anyone from 343 yet
it will be funny is 343 took off AA for a day like on april fools for example. it would be funny to see whos skill and whos cheating :D
Honestly they should take it off for like 4 weeks at least, and let player feedback dictate if it comes back or not
I feel like mouse players are better than controller
Hard to say for sure 🤷♂️ feel like it depends on the player, me personally im way better on controller, but I feel like I have higher potential on MnK once I really get it down
If you think close quarters is better on controller its probably that you are using mouse with lowish sensitivity and wrist movements.
This means you have good aim at long range but you struggle with fast turns
Instead, use a larger mouse pad, still with low sensitivity, but focus on moving your whole arm more. You should be able to do a full 180 by moving your mouse from center to edge of mouse pad for close quarters, but still get to use wrist movements for precise aiming this way
kbm has aim assist on the contrary
M&k is op… the movement, strafing, tracing, instant flicks, instant turn, 180 ninjas with slight aim assist all capped at 150-200+ fps … crossplay needs to be turned off
Real, until then you can just block any of them you run into
I left halo because of just opimization issues and the terrible micro transactions. Came back after a year just to find out they added aim assist to MnK. Absolutely atrocious. In 40ish hours i hit diamond 3 and quit after the issues. Its insane that they have yet to remove aim assist. For the record aim assist is still there. So i dont know what your talking about. The rotational drift is still there.
"im better than average"
Bro is in the top rank you can boast a bit more 😭
Not tryna be too cocky 😂
Mnk has aim assist feels really bad