How to Identify Carbonates in the Field

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  • A brief introduction on how to identify some carbonate rocks and minerals in the field, including some that might not react to 10% HCl.
    The full video is available in the Fieldcraft for Geologists on-line course here:
    geologyupskill.thinkific.com/...
    Index:
    0:00 Why identify carbonates?
    0:40 Carbonate rocks. Karst topography.
    0:52 Surface pits.
    1:16 "V" shaped fracture traces.
    1:51 Porous rind.
    2:49 Mosaic fracture pattern
    3:19 Recessive layers.
    3:47 Palisade texture.
    4:13 Carbonatye minerals. Calcite.
    5:12 Iron bearing carbonates.
    5:24 Siderite
    5:55 Ankerite
    6:23 Carbonate gossans.
    Credits:
    Siderite crystal photo: upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...
    Author: Didier Descouens
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  • @SuperMisawo
    @SuperMisawo Рік тому +4

    Very informative video. The introduction of carbonates that do not react with dilute hydrochloric acid and rocks that were originally carbonates is especially useful.

  • @secretstreamsandfeverdreams
    @secretstreamsandfeverdreams Рік тому +4

    Wow.. that outcrop at 3.45 was stunning, so beautiful. I grew up climbing barefoot up the local jagged limestone cliffs and I tell you that toughens your feet!

  • @akshayverma-ue8jl
    @akshayverma-ue8jl Рік тому +19

    Field based study is the best part of the Geology.👍

    • @GeologyUpSkill
      @GeologyUpSkill  Рік тому +2

      Agreed. And now video can share that experience far more effectively than ever before.

  • @mohs7234
    @mohs7234 Рік тому +1

    Hi Pal From Arizona.
    Think you just answered my question I asked in the secondary copper about a yellow stone I polished.
    That distinctive mustard yellow shade.
    Thanks for you informative knowledge!

    • @GeologyUpSkill
      @GeologyUpSkill  Рік тому +1

      There are a few secondary minerals of value with yellow ochre coulours (bismuth, antimony and molybdenum in particular), but the vast majority of mustard-brown powdery secondary minerals are goethite and jarosite after carbonate minerals.

  • @leonardomascarenhas9107
    @leonardomascarenhas9107 6 місяців тому +1

    Thaks for posting this video, excelent!!

    • @GeologyUpSkill
      @GeologyUpSkill  6 місяців тому

      Thanks very much. Glad you found it useful.

  • @rhcpalex93
    @rhcpalex93 Рік тому

    One of your best yet Nick!

  • @nuel19
    @nuel19 Рік тому +1

    Thanks you mister

  • @nathanbailey3810
    @nathanbailey3810 Рік тому +3

    awesome video nick! im studying geology at uwa at the moment, keen to see u out in the field in a couple years!

  • @johnnytarponds9292
    @johnnytarponds9292 Рік тому +1

    Fantastic! Thanks for this!

  • @AleksPetrovProspecting
    @AleksPetrovProspecting 4 місяці тому +1

    Hey Nick, can you please explain how identifying carbonate rocks can be beneficial for Gold prospecting?

    • @GeologyUpSkill
      @GeologyUpSkill  4 місяці тому +1

      The host skarns, mantos and carlin style deposits. They are some of the best gold deposits :)

  • @tectonicrxs
    @tectonicrxs Рік тому +1

    Excellent video

  • @Coltbreath
    @Coltbreath Рік тому +2

    Thanks Again! Cheers!

  • @crohkorthreetoes3821
    @crohkorthreetoes3821 2 місяці тому +1

    Learning fast enough to almost make my brain hurt, lol

  • @phaithoonvongsinery893
    @phaithoonvongsinery893 3 місяці тому

    Very good explain​sir

  • @user-pw5sk4sr8c
    @user-pw5sk4sr8c Рік тому +1

    I found large-scale molten limestone, which is deposited limestone melted at high temperature, and then cooled and solidified limestone. I judged that it was formed by asteroid impact, and there are the impact breccia on the hills near the limestone.Would love to share my discovery of these rocks with others, you can see pictures of these rocks in the community thread on my channel.

    • @GeologyUpSkill
      @GeologyUpSkill  Рік тому

      Great way to start making your own videos. I have a video on how to do that here: ua-cam.com/video/ENOslkR0BwI/v-deo.html

    • @user-pw5sk4sr8c
      @user-pw5sk4sr8c Рік тому

      @@GeologyUpSkill OK,I will try.

  • @muzikhed
    @muzikhed Рік тому

    That last rock looked like a volcanic scoria rock to me. ....Interesting video, you sure know your stuff.

    • @GeologyUpSkill
      @GeologyUpSkill  Рік тому +2

      Thanks. The weathering surface of sandy carbonates can closely resemble scoria, particularly when the carbonate has some iron or manganese to stain everything dark brown or black. The sudden transition to a grey core is a giveaway for carbonate.

  • @infinitygeospatial1972
    @infinitygeospatial1972 3 місяці тому +1

    Thank you

    • @GeologyUpSkill
      @GeologyUpSkill  2 місяці тому

      You're welcome. I hope it helps to improve your field observations.

  • @BWowed
    @BWowed Рік тому +1

    Fantastic video. I have found something in Wyoming that nobody has Been able to identify. Do you have any suggestions on how I can find out what it is?

    • @GeologyUpSkill
      @GeologyUpSkill  Рік тому

      If it is a mineral, I recommend mindat.org their website has an excellent gallery of images for almost every mineral.

  • @alishafipourgeologist4520
    @alishafipourgeologist4520 Рік тому +1

    Excellent

  • @danielsumomba8696
    @danielsumomba8696 Рік тому +2

    Fantastic

  • @mantie7
    @mantie7 Рік тому

    Just wrote my exam about hydrogeology in karst. I think it has to be my favorite field

    • @GeologyUpSkill
      @GeologyUpSkill  Рік тому

      If you love karst topography, you must visit Laos and it's neighboring countries. The karst exposures are spectacular.

  • @matheusviolante8364
    @matheusviolante8364 Рік тому +4

    Excellent video! Really liked the comments on the different carbonate minerals at the end! I have just a few questions.
    Do you use both 10% HCl and concentrated HCl? Because when you pour over calcite it fizzes like crazy. Either you were using more concentrated HCl or the every 10% HCl bottle I ever got to use was crap hahaha
    Also, do you believe Alizarin red to be useful in the field? I tend to overcarry tools, but I feel that chemicals such as HCl and H2O2 are lightweight additions that can help extract much more information when mapping. Wanted to know your opinion, though!

    • @GeologyUpSkill
      @GeologyUpSkill  Рік тому +2

      I only carry 10% HCL. Those little bottles are pretty leak proof, but the occasional escaped drop still wrecks a shirt from time to time. Concentrated HCL is just too dangerous to have in your pocket. The other things are useful if you are on a project with specific needs (for example if you are looking for oxide zinc), but otherwise, the mineral properties are enough for me to raise suspicion and then test for certain at the lab.

    • @mantie7
      @mantie7 Рік тому

      @@GeologyUpSkill I usually use a double or even triple barrier "system" with higher concentrated HCl. But because of that i only use it very occasionally 😅

  • @muhammedsamius9175
    @muhammedsamius9175 Рік тому

    Thanks a lot for the video, if we can add it in the subtitle, it can appeal to a wider area. Best regards.

    • @GeologyUpSkill
      @GeologyUpSkill  Рік тому

      If you turn on "Closed Captions" in UA-cam, you will get auto generated subtitles. They are pretty good despite my Australian accent!

  • @BokandaFrankline
    @BokandaFrankline 10 місяців тому +1

    Professor, thank you so much for sharing this vital knowledge, please if you may help out with Silcretes and silicate rocks in the field

    • @GeologyUpSkill
      @GeologyUpSkill  10 місяців тому

      Next time I see some I will make a video.

  • @rodbhar6522
    @rodbhar6522 Рік тому +1

    I find basalt exhibits similar weathering patterns to these ones you've shown, especially a rind.

    • @GeologyUpSkill
      @GeologyUpSkill  Рік тому

      Better put some acid on it then. Perhaps it is carbonate altered!

    • @rodbhar6522
      @rodbhar6522 Рік тому

      @@GeologyUpSkill Hmmm...never thought about that. The white weathering rind on these basalts from Newfoundland seems to be caused by burial in acidic soil.

  • @rajp9928
    @rajp9928 Рік тому +1

    Geology Msc degree completed l job training Sir Please Help me

  • @iNikhilPant
    @iNikhilPant Рік тому +1

    We call that weathering “ elephant skin weathering “

  • @johnnynephrite6147
    @johnnynephrite6147 Рік тому

    if you don't have a bottle of acid, some vinegar will sometimes do the trick.

    • @GeologyUpSkill
      @GeologyUpSkill  Рік тому

      That will work, particularly if you scratch the carbonate before applying it. And it won't burn a hole in your shirt!

  • @donaldkasper8346
    @donaldkasper8346 Рік тому

    Ankerite is not a common carbonate. I find it exceptionally rare, in very specific locales and rock types, and invariably dark calcite is just calcite in infrared, even black calcite, and is almost never ankerite. Ankerite is not dark, its crystals are pink.

    • @GeologyUpSkill
      @GeologyUpSkill  Рік тому

      Most of the ankerite I have seen is in hydrothermal veins and breccias. I might have a biased view since I tend to work on hydrothermal ore systems most of the time. As you say, colour is a very poor indicator of mineral species, particularly for carbonates. The most useful indicator l find for ankerite is that rapid development of an iron oxide surface stain after cutting.

    • @donaldkasper8346
      @donaldkasper8346 Рік тому

      @@GeologyUpSkill Essentially 100% of my presumed ankerites as very dark scalenohedral structures in geodes and other volcanic rocks scan in reflectance infrared as calcite. I can tell the carbonates apart in infrared. It takes very specific and rare conditions for me to see it. For example, the Moroccan black brecciated nodules. Typically in things like Midwest saddle rhomb structures in sedimentary geodes and no place else.

    • @donaldkasper8346
      @donaldkasper8346 Рік тому

      My interest is volcanic agates, jaspers, and opals. These map into ore occurrences all the time. If it is banded agate with silver then I study it as banded agate. For example, other vein lode outcrops of the Calico silver deposits. Given that, the lack of ankerite was very startling to me, and the absolute lack of dark calcite scalen and rhomb structures being ankerite is nearly absolute. My classification keys are for feldspars, all the silicas, the opals (more silicas of course), sulfates, phyllosilicates, the carbonates such that I see 13 species of opals including species like opal-BC (opal-beta-cristobalite) and mixed species like opal-BC-CT, opal-CTA, and so on. I can see mixed carbonates. The agates I call calcsilica rocks as the silica deposition is strongly related to alkaline conditions set up by carbonate occurrence. And if the acidic rocks are around, they react with carbonates to form sulfates with the silica, so on a fine mm scale still form in alkaline conditions. For me, gossan caprocks are jasper occurrences. They occur in hydrothermal vents, along faults, fault offsets of water entrapment, etc, not dissociated from what ore geologists would hunt for. I just hunt them for specimens, not ore to crush and soak in acid, but the search is the same.