As a die hard Seahawks fan, I can say that Dave Kreig could be extremely effective as a QB. Conversely, he could be easily rattled. & when he was rattled, he was tough to watch at times.
Yes he did, but, he also had Pro bowler Dwight Clark and the very capable Freddie Solomon receiving along with a very strong defense that was led by the machine .... Ronnie Lott. Joe Montana won 4 Superbowls with the San Francisco 49ers, but, it must be pointed out that he had some serious talent playing with him for all 4 games and that is why I see him as the 2nd best ever.
@@SportZFan4L1fe - Indeed, Belichick v Walsh .... they are both fantastic coaches. The other important point is salary caps, the Patriots and Tom Brady have had to draft and trade on a budget as apposed to having the financial freedom that Montana's 49ers had when they wanted to bring someone expensive to the team
Thank you. Folks either don’t know or pretend to not know that Montana came onto a TRASH Niners team in ‘79-they went 3-13 that year and 6-10 in ‘80. Nobody saw the ‘81 team coming, going 13-3 and winning the SB. To pretend that Montana only won because he had a great supporting cast, is disingenuous as hell and ignores Montana’s individual greatness. Montana had the best intangibles of any QB since Unitas/Staubach-he could bring a team back from nowhere. He also won SBs with essentially 2 different rosters (the ‘81 and ‘84 SB teams were much different than the ‘88 and ‘89 teams. He didn’t “need” Rice, Taylor, etc to win
Dave Craig getting sacked by the Rams and then smacking the defender who sacked him in the hand to make him drop the ball recovering it and throwing a touchdown is one of the best plays I've ever seen
“Dan Marino isn’t a great quarterback because he never won a super bowl” True that must mean Randy Moss wasn’t an all time great receiver. Genius logic
Each of these talking heads contradict themselves over and over. Whoever Craig Carton is he say’s about Boomer “he’s #6, he shouldn’t be in the top10 never won a Super Bowl.” Not 5 min later “ # 6 is good shouldn’t be in top 5 “ it took him less then 5 minutes to back away from his Hot Take. Waffling idiots each and every one of them.
Jim Plunkett led the Oakland Raiders to two rings in the early 80s Plunkett was the NFL’s 1980 comeback player of the year & most valuable player of super bowl XV (Eagles-10 Raiders-28) He led his team to upset over Washington who had the NFL’s number one offense (SBXVIII Redskins-9 LA Raiders-38) Only quarterback in the AFC to win a championship in the decade
I'd put him in over Fouts. He was a winner, but never compiled great stats. He's a lot like Bradshaw. He had some terrible seasons when his team didn't have him as the starter. He never had a great season, but he had some hella good playoff runs.
Ken Anderson led the NFL in passing twice in the 80s. Joe montana-twice Jim Mcmahaon-zero Bernie Kosar-zero Dave Kreig-zero Joe theisman-zero Boomer esiason-once Phil Simms-zero John Elway-zero Dan Marino-once Dan Fouts-zero
Aside from 81 and the strike shortened 82 season, Anderson was a sub par QB in the 80's. He had three seasons in the 80's where he threw more INT's than TD's.
Look at the team Montana had even when the told Montana he was done and young stepped in they said the best qb not best team bcos number 3 Montana went to KC played with Marcus _Allen thogh the got better Montana couldn't get to the Super bowl with Kc so what does that say
Tom Brady has more super bowl wins but each one was a squeaker. Montana soundly beat Marino in their superbowl, then Montana annihilated Elway in theirs.
I remember that game, and for the rest of the season, I thought to myself, "Man, I hope they don't play the Dolphins again!" Yeah, he just tore apart the defense that year. All credit to him for that.
The bittersweet part of that is they were VERY close to a Super Bowl rematch. But they blew it against the Patriots in the AFC Championship then NE put up no fight whatsoever in New Orleans.
@Harry Engel Yes, but Plunkett was a Super Bowl MVP and Comeback Player of the Year. He could win big games. I always liked White but he could never win the big games. And McMahon was iconic and flashy but except for 1985, generally undependable.
@devildog1982z yeah I'm a Steeler fan and hated Plunkett because he beat my Steelers in 80 and 83. This argument that "he had a great team" doesn't hold water. Show me a 2 time SB winning QB who didn't have a great team.
Top 10 quarterbacks of the 1980's? More like the top 9 quarterbacks after Joe Montana. I mean, come on...anybody with half a brain knows who was at the top of this list.
I have to admit that Joe Montana was the very first name that popped into my head when you think QBs and the 1980s. Montana is the first name that comes to mind because he’s was a winner. Not really concerned with the stats or numbers except for the number in the win column. Otherwise, Dan Marino was the second name that came to mind after Joe. Marino was the best pure passer of the 1980s and maybe of all time. Dan just never had a running game to offset the passing game. Everyone knew Miami had to pass, because they couldn’t do anything else, but still couldn’t stop him from making the completion. Montana knew how to win. No one was calmer or more in control of the offense in tight situations than Montana. All of the other great QBs of the 80s are similar to Marino, they put up big numbers, but unlike Joe, they couldn’t win the big games. Marino, Elway and Jim Kelly made Super Bowl appearances, some of them made multiple appearances, but couldn’t come away with a win, in fact, Elway took miserable loses in the Super Bowls, setting records for being beat so bad. Elway was finally able to get a couple of Super Bowl wins, but that was in the 1990s and with Shanahan as head coach, rather than Dan Reeves.
@@RoarOfWolverine I have Elway only because I believe talent wise he was the best. I wiffed on Jim Kelly on my list. I would've included him but I always thought of him as a doing his best in the '90s. Hell I'll kick Simms off my list and put Jim at 9. He was way better than Philop.
Montana, the man who couldn't throw the ball over 25 yards but did less with more who happened to have the 3 best receivers in the league. Totally overrated; he would've been the best of the above-average QBs on a lesser team.
Dan Marino lost to one of the most balanced teams of all time. The '84 49ers not only had one of the great offenses of all time, they had one of the all-time great defenses. That team gets overshadowed by the '85 Bears and the '86 Giants, but really that '84 49er defense was nasty!
Fans actually would have been treated to a better game if that SB was between the '84 Seahawks vs '84 49ers... That Seattle secondary back then was the original LOB!
Exactly. And even in Niners history of the 80s, they get overshadowed by the teams that won in ‘88 and ‘89 that had the media darlings like Rice, Young, etc on that team....and “The Drive”. The ‘84 Niners are one of the best teams ever IMO, and I’m a lifelong NY Giants fan
Yeah, George Seifert is the most underrated coach in NFL history. Those 80's 49er defenses were amazing. They had like seven playoff games where they held opponents to 10 points or less, and 12 games they held teams under 20.
What about the '89 NINERS D ? They outscored there opponents 126-16 in the playoffs. Pretty comparable to the '85 Bears who outscored theirs 95 -10 I think. The 95 points could be wrong though. I know the 10 points given up is right. But I do know it's in the 90's and not more than 100...
Phil Simms is underrated and that is coming from a Cowboys fan that hated Simms in the 80's-90's. Randall Cunningham and Warren Moon should have been on this list.
Wait what! They didn't include Warren Moon?!?!?!?! I have him #2 on my list between Montana and Marino. I'm done here, I'm not even finishing this video.
@@philipwujr.4786 - People often forget that Simms was having a great year and possible MVP year in 1990. I totally agree with you, he had no HOF receivers but he did have one very good TE in Mark Bavaro but still. I don't think he gets nearly the credit he deserves and again, I'm a Cowboys fan. I still think Simms should be in the HOF.
@@nates9029 Good to hear coming from a Cowboys fan the East was full of classic rivalry games. Cowboys, Redskins, Eagles no matter the rosters It was must see football.
@@philipwujr.4786 - I grew up watching the NFC East from the early 80's on. I loved it when the Super Bowl came through the NFC East from 90-93 and 95...except for the Eagles. I respected teams like the Redskins of the early to mid 80's, the Giants from the late 80's and the Eagles from the late 80's. That was football as I grew up watching it. When the Giants won in 86, they were the best team in football. When the Skins won in 87, they were the best team in football. The Cowboys weren't very good then but the games were always interesting and tough. Even when the Giants won their most recent Super Bowls, I wasn't overly pissed - partially because they beat the Patriots but also because I respect the Giants and their fans. The team and fans I don't respect are the Eagles. Their fans acted like they had won a dozen Super Bowls before they even won one. I miss those teams from the 80's and early 90's. People always talk about the LT's and players like him but they forget players like Randall Cunningham, Gary Clark, Charles Mann, Carl Banks, Mark Bavaro , Joe Morris, Phil Simms and many others.
No love for Danny White, eh? Taking over for the #1 QB of the 70s, 3 straight NFC Championships, setting team records all over the place, winning games in classic style, etc. Come on man!
You don't want to be the man, that REPLACES the Man... I loved Danny White he never GOT the RESPECT that he deserves. Yes QB/ Punters don't happen once in a 100 yrs NFL wise.
Life long 2nd generation Cowboys fan. He was on talented teams that always got beat in the games that mattered the most. Good stats just not successful. Could have been at the bottom as only Plunkett, Montana, Theismann, Williams, Simms, and McMahon won it all in the eighties. Four other slots for non Superbowl winning qb's. Marino, Elway, and Boomer. Looking at Kreig on this one or Kosar but I like Kosar. Tough. Tough one.
Why does a guy have to win a Super Bowl to be considered a great QB!? There were plenty of guys like Moon, Kosar, Boomer, Marino, and Jurgensen who were great QBs who didn’t win championships but still need to be remembered as great QBs.
Hey, I'm a Montana guy, but you are right. Kosar especially. I liked him. Its just that like Boomer said..Joe made it look easy..it is not. Montana saw the play and defenses before the snap, saw 4 targets in 3 steps, and never hung a receiver out to dry..like Young did later. Yards after catch are huge, and ball being thrown to in-stride receiver, in front of him, is the key. Dan Marino was a great qb. Another Western PA guy like Joe. Elway whined too much. To me, that 55-10 loss is too much to overcome in my opinion. And they had a top secondary with Atwater and company..yet Joe destroyed them. Just like Miami's "killer B" defense, which I still laugh at because I won a lot of money in that SB...and I gave Miami 20 points and still won.lmao
Fouts has the most badass dropback/ throwing motion it was like he was throwing those bolts from his uni ./ Take out Dave Kreig insert Danny White 3 straight NFC Championship games on a huge stage .
Seeing the Bernie Kosar stuff really takes me back. My family had season tickets a couple of those years and those Sundays were dinner and the Browns with the family. Hell we dressed up in dawg garb and it was an event. It was the best times in my life through those years and Bernie and the Browns were the nucleus
i work with a few 20 somethings who give me shit for saying john elway was the best of all-time. they argue brady, because he has the most rings, and then say say aaron rodgers second best, which completely invalidates their argument for brady. hahaha. if you are going by rings it's brady, montana, bradshaw, etc. but basing it solely off of super bowls or stats, to me, is narrow minded. there are so many factors that go into being a great qb.
The 2000s and 2010s were great times for QBs as well. Tom Brady, Drew Brees, the Manning bros, Aaron Rodgers, Ben Roethlisberger, Russell Wilson, Phillip Rivers, Tony Romo. There are a few more. some great talents breaking out this decade too
I am too. I think a case could be made for a couple of others, but people don't remember just how different the Bears were with him under the center as opposed to without him. Maybe other QBs are just as successful if you put him in McMahon's place? Sure. But he still was the right fit at the right time for the right team.
B/c he didn't consistently start for the Eagles until '87 and he wasn't the Randall we remember until at least '88 or '89. I say this as an Eagles fan who loves Randall. Jaws was the better Philly QB of the 80's tho Randall had the more impressive talent and career.
The real missing guy is Steve Bartkowski. Led the league in passing once. Was top 5 3 or 4 times. Quite possibly the strongest arm in the history of the league.
Only being a top 5 qb 3 times in a decade isn’t deserving of this list. And having a strong arm means jack shit when you’re talking about being a great quarterback
Yeah, nope Steve had a low completion pct, threw almost as many int's as td's and only played until 83 or 84 as a starter. In his last 2 years he started 5 or 6 games each year.
Teams win superbowls not QBs. Most important position, but QBs that have help on both sides of the ball are able to win multiple rings. Marino was better than Montana individually. No disrespect to Joe he was phenomenal in his own right but Marino was something the nfl will never see ever again.
I think xxx is a great QB because he was on a team with a great offense and a great defense is one of the stupidest comments a person can make. There have been some less than stellar quarterbacks who were on championship teams. Riddle me this - how many times has having the leagues highest paid quarterback resulted in a teams winning the Super Bowl? There are studies which show that as the percent of the overall teams salary given to the starting quarterback exceeds 10% their chances of winning a championship go down.
@Harry Engel He was a HEISMAN CANDIDATE coming out of college at Grambling in '78 also a FIRST ROUND CHOICE.He was the FIRST BLACK QB to be a Heisman nominee from a Historically Black College and the second overall joining SANDY STEVENS from Minnesota in the early '60s.
@@dwightlove3704 Not only that but DW was the QB when Tampa had their first real success as a franchise, making it all the way to the NFC championship game before falling to the Rams in a flash flood 😆 😆, IIRC. Tampa had a good D, I realize, and they were shut out at home vs L.A., but the Rams only managed 9 pts, plus the Rams had a heckuva D 8n ‘79. The game was a MESS... but my point is, he helped get TB to within a (very close) a game of the Super Bowl.
Jim Plunkett won two Super Bowls in the 80s. Joe Theisman won one, but he did so with a coach who won two additional Super Bowls with with two other quarterbacks.
Because his statistics and overall play was horrendous. Yes, he had a couple big playoff/SB moments but he won because of his team. He threw 34 more INTs than TDs. Never made a Pro bowl and never threw for 3000 yards. Never threw for 3000 yards once in his entire career. Cmon man….
@@TheToad075 Goat 🐐 Brady 7 rings and 5 sb mvps and 617 td passes and 83 td passes and 14 game winning drives and 15 pro bowl selections all 6 NFL records Lies and more lies that Tom Brady only throws check downs more proof you don't know football 😂
@@TheToad075 Like Joe Montana never threw check downs tp Rodger Craig out backfield 💀 2021 NFC championship Buccaneers 7 Packers 7 Tom Brady 52 yard deep pass to Chris Goodwin on 3rd and 10 to keep drive alive and score Buccaneers 14-7 lead 2021 NFC championship Buccaneers 14 Packers 10 Tom Brady 39 yard deep pass for touchdown to Scotty Miller before half and Buccaneers 21-10 lead Last i checked those arent check downs clown Goat 🐐 Brady 7 rings and 5 sb mvps better all time Quarterback then Montana 4 rings and 3 sb mvps
Robert Paige so Jim McMahon QB’ed a team with the 3rd lowest ranked defense and running game to a SB title (like Eli did in 2011)??? So Jim McMahon threw for 330 yards and multiple TDs in -17 degree wind chill (like Eli did in Green Bay in the 2007 NFC title game)?? So Jim McMahon threw the football 58 times without an INT in muddy conditions against the most back-cracking defense in the NFL (like Eli did in the 2011 NFC title game)??? Oh yeah, McMahon did NONE of those things. To say nothing of Eli’s 240+ consecutive starts, 5,000 yard passing season, multiple 30 TD seasons, etc
People need to chill out a little bit on the "Did he win a SB thing" The Giants, w/ their defense and running game, could win a SB w/ Simms or Hostetler. The '85 Bears just needed a better QB than Steve Fuller to win a SB
As a diehard Bears fan, I will tell you that Simms was substantially better than McMahon. McMahon never came close to throwing for 3000 yards in a season.
@Harry Engel You can write this down for all posterity: Matt Contreras could & would have taken the Bears to the Super Bowl in 1985....AND he would have had the sense ( unlike Mcmahon) to agree with coach Ditka at halftime during the only 1985 loss on that Monday night, screaming at the defense to try a zone to counteract the success my Dolphins were having against the Bears !!! Unfortunately for the Bears, their defensive coordinator was a dense, self-righteous, ignorant failure as a coach who could never admit his own stupidity in continually running the same defense out there drive-after-drive, getting humiliated. Ryan and McMahon were both too dumb to change strategy, even with the whole country watching.
I have Montana ahead of Brady because he played when the quarterbacks and receivers could actually Be Hit. It's flag football now and you get suspended if you hit the star QB.
I count the stats from the time Roger Goodell took over with an *. It's easy to put up numbers where you throw the ball 40-50x a game, and it's a penalty if you spit on the QB. The question is if you take the QB's from the 2000's and put them in the 1980's, would they succeed? We know that the QBs from before would LOVE these new situations
I always thinks that Joe Montana's 1st and 2nd Super Bowls are kinda like Russell Wilson's winning Super Bowl with the Legion Of Boom That 81 and 84 San Fransisco 49ers had a great secondary, great pass rush, solid running game and an underrated receiving corps
Pleasantly surprised to see Dave Krieg on the list. He's typically overlooked by everyone outside Seattle. I'm always surprised that so many people who claim to be NFL fans don't know who he is. Steve Largent is generally considered one of the top 3 WRs of the 80s. Everyone knows who he is, but few people know who threw the ball to him for most of the decade. The most frustrating thing about Krieg was his inconsistency. His career stats show he was a very good QB, but that's what he averaged out to over time. He might have had the greatest standard deviation in his game stats than any other QB. One week he would play like Joe Montana in his prime, and the next week he would look like the worst QB in the league. The highlights in this video demonstrate that. You see him dropping dimes to Largent, and then you see the ball fall out of his hand when he tries to throw it. You never knew which Krieg you would get from week to week.
So would you compare him with today's Ryan Fitzpatrick? I imagine Krieg, on average, is probably a little better (after all, Seattle deemed him good enough to actually keep for quite a while.)
@@thenumberquelve158 That might be a good comparison. I haven't followed Fitzpatrick much, but from what I know about him he is also hot and cold from week to week. As for keeping him, it was different era before free agency. Teams were stuck with their QBs and could only replace them through the draft or trade. Krieg was benched in the middle of the 86 season after Knox grew tired of his streaky play, but his backups were even worse and they lost every game, so he put Krieg back in and he played like Joe Montana for the rest of the season. Krieg seemed to drive Knox crazy with his inconsistency, and I think he might have picked up a different QB in free agency if it was available.
This list probably has the most obvious Top 4 imaginable, and then a really hard toss-up between 5-10. Also 4:42 is a hilarious take and I'm glad they kept that in. xD and so is "hE cAN'T bE oN tHE tOP tEN oF tHE dECADE bECAUSE hE nEVER wON a sUPERBOWL", as if there were more than ten Superbowls played during the 1980s. And hey, the little nods to 1980s programming is kinda cute. Rare instance of NFL Films doing humor right.
no Jim Plunkett? seriously the guy won 2 super bowls and he’s not on the list? only 2 QBs won more them 2 championships (Jim Plunkett and Joe Montana) in the 80s and you got guys on here that never even got to the show shame on you
My top ten NFL QB 1980's were 10.) Ken Anderson 9.) Randall Cunningham 8.) Bernie Kosar 7.) Phil Simms 6.) Boomer Esiason 5.) Joe Theismann 4.) Dan Fouts 3.) Dan Marino 2.) John Elway 1.) Joe Montana Sorry Jim McMahon you had too many injuries sorry Dave Krieg you had too many fumbles and sorry Doug Williams you jumped from the NFL to the USFL
For what? He was only a starter 3 seasons of the 80s, yet he led the league in fumbles twice and, sacks 3 times, and yards lost on sacks 3 times. He even led the league in losing yards on sacks when he only started 5 games.
Absolutely not Ron Jaworski was the better QB for the Eagles played there longer, put up better numbers and actually got to a Super Bowl. Randall Cunningham was nothing but a highlight reel during his time at the Eagles it wasn’t till he got to Minnesota and was surrounded by talented offence that he became a more of a pocket passer and not running around the field thinking its The Randall Cunningham Show that got him so banged up in Philadelphia that forced him to quit in the first place.
These yokels think Boomer didn't belong because he didn't win a Super Bowl? Only 6 QBs won them in the 80s, so if that's the rule, you can't have a top 10 LIST.
Hell, 23 teams didn't have one. The 49ers won 4 SB in the decade (Montana), Raiders 2 (Plunkett), Redskins 2 (Theismann, Williams), Giants 1 (Simms), and Bears (McMahon). Those are the only teams/QBs to win thosee games that decade, while there were 28 teams in the league at the time.
If you played for an AFC team between the mid eighties to late nineties you’re ass wasn’t winning a super bowl. Let me rephrase that. If you weren’t part of the 49ers, Giants, Redskins, Cowboys or Bears roster during that time you’re not winning a Super Bowl.
Elway should be ahead of Fouts. 3 Superbowls appearances with nothin vs 3 AFC championship games appearances with HOF WR and TE( godfather of modern TE), and pro bowl WR.
I'm old. I grew up in the 80s. I'm playing against huge guys (6'2) and was barely 6'. So I developed "The Bernie Kosar Sidearm". I literally learned how to wing a pass under or over a defender's shoulders on a rope. I would practice every day learning how to throw sidearm because these big huge dudes were in my face all day.
i played corner back in the 80's. Not in college let alone being a prospect or anything, but QBs who could find lanes were SO much more difficult then "big" arms or big guys bc I couldn't get a read or a jump watching you guys. Fun times though.
It's fun to throw a football sidearm, you get tremendous rotation on the ball, it spins like crazy. And I find you can get amazing accuracy throwing sidearm, ala Bernie, Stabler, Steve Young. I remember Brad Johnson used to throw almost straight over the top and the ball had like no spin on it and would always wobble and sputter. Brad was decent, but his passes looked so ugly.
10. John Witkowski 9. Todd Hons 8. Joe Ferguson 7. Rusty Hilger 6. Chuck Long 5. Bob Gagliano 4. Jeff Komlo 3. Eric Hipple 2. Rodney Peete 1. Gary Danielson Lions top 10 of the 80s
Agreed. There's been some teams that won SB's with blah to mediocre QB play; Peyton Manning was abysmal in 2015 but the Broncos won it all anyway. Brad Johnson and Trent Dilfer weren't amazing QBs but got the Ravens and Bucs to Super Bowl W's.
Jim McMahon will always be my favorite QB of all time. I don’t like most cocky shithead types but idk the way McMahon played the position like a FB really impressed me. His passing stats were not great, but combining what he could do passing with how he ran for extra yards… That’s what I would coach up.
Lynn Dickey was a pretty damn good QB. Had he had a team capable of winning anything he would be near the top of this list. I get that he's not on, Green Bay was terrible the entire decade but nonetheless as far as quarterbacking goes, he was damn good.
@@orangeandblackattack Horrible defense but he had Coffman, Jefferson and Loften for recievers and a t,000 yard rusher in Terry Middleton. Hard to say he was worse off than Montana or Fouts.
@@howardcosell2022 We'll have to agree to disagree on that. I admire Dan Reeves as a coach but he was more than the coach and he was quite a failure while wearing his other hats.
@@z1g Reeves was power hungry, but Joe Collier ran the defenses way before the 'Orange Crush' years of the 70's. He always had one of the best defenses in the AFC throughout the 80's. Reeves would have won with a QB like Steve DeBerg
Jim Plunkett Raiders Quarterback (1980-86) Most Valuable Player of SBXV with the 1980 Oakland Raiders (Raiders 27 Eagles 10) 1980 NFL Comeback player of the year Led the 1983 Los Angeles Raiders to a second Super Bowl in four seasons LA Raiders 38 Redskins 9 SBXVIII
As a Charger fan I'll take Fouts at three. Probably overrated but I'll take it ;) Poor Jim plunkett. I'll never understand why that man gets no respect. Him or Tom Flores. I don't like much about the raiders but even I know that Plunkett was a huge part of those Super Bowl wins.
It's Joe Montana and the 9 battling for 2nd place in the 80s. For those complaining about Fouts, Marino, and Elway being the 3 after Joe: San Diego was defense optional under Air Coryell Marino came in when the Dolphins no-name D was aging and the organization didn't replace them or give him a running back to keep defenses honest. Elway took the Broncos with average rosters to 3 Super Bowls in 4 years. In the 90s, he had Terrell Davis to hand off to and a defense to win Super Bowls.
I would put Ken O'Brien on here before Jim McMahon! Way better passer, his shootouts with Marino where legendary...also a 1983 alumnus. Still holds most Jet passing records...they talk about Namath but Ken was the real deal. Bad coaches, drafts and teams, no reliable recievers still was solid.
I’ll say this to constant hater Dan Amendalora. Why didn’t the Bears win it all in 86? The D was almost just as good. What was different? Oh McMahon was out and Flutie played they lost to Skins in playoffs. Not saying McMahon was great but give the man some credit for SB win.
Tad Pole probably Bills Flutie was legit and he got screwed when Wade Phillips got orders from ownership to bench him in playoff game in 99 vs Titans Music City Miracle. Johnson didn’t play bad but maybe Bills r ahead by more if Flutie played so a miracle play wouldn’t matter
It’s a no brainer who #1 would be for the ‘80’s. The real question would be 2-10. Also, Super Bowl wins are a team accomplishment. You can be a amazing QB and not win a Super Bowl
1:08-I was at this game and saw this play from this vantage point. My dad's season tickets were in that endzone in Philly. And if Neil Lomax hadn't been so injury prone he'd be on this list.
Neil Lomax had a great career in St. Louis. He used to get his head handed to him every week like David Carr and he still managed two pro-bowls. If he had a O-line like Jim Hart's of the 70's, he would have been remembered. Phil Simms was consistently the 2nd or 3rd best QB every year in the NFC East
It kinda baffles me that some of these people use Super Bowls as an argument for this list considering Montana won half the Super Bowls this decade...you kinda have to have non Super Bowl winners here
I'm sure you're justifiably proud of Jim Plunkett's Hispanic heritage ( also Joe Kapp ), and and Jaworski's toughness, and so I agree with you. I'll say Mcmahon the clown doesn't even belong on this list...sorry.
@@67marlins81 There heritage has nothing to do with their performance. McMahon benefited from his defense more than anyone. He was Trent Dilfer before Trent Dilfer
I remember watching a game between Joe Montana and the 49ers vs Bobby Hebert and the Saints. At halftime, the Saints were up 21 points. I turned to my buddy and bet him $100 in beer (in installments) that Joe would come back and win. Challenge accepted. Guess what happened. I didn't have to pay for beer for a couple of weeks.
I hate when people call players in any sport compilers. You do what you do. A lot of things are out of your control. Kreig played for a lot of 7-9 to 9-7 teams. You need whole teams to win. He had 1 real weapon and that was Steve Largent.
When he had a great running back it allowed them to be in position to make the playoffs. That wasn't very often. And he still managed to lead them to a then franchise best 12-4 record with a leading rusher David Hughes with 327 yards, a full back. Yeah, a bit underrated. Knox of course is heavily underrated in history at head coach. Man was a fantastic head coach and its a shame he never won the big one.
4:10 Joe Posnanski says that Jim McMahon shouldn't be on the list because he wasn't any good. That worthless blob should consider the fact that the Bears faced Joe Montana and the 49ers with Jim McMahon 4 times. The Bears won 3 out of 4. The two teams faced each other without McMahon during that period 2 times and the Bears got blown out both times. But you are right, Mister Expert, McMahon wasn't any good. He should be fired from SI. I would say that his SPORTS ANALYSIS isn't any good.
Dan Marino had no where near the amount of weapons as Montana. The 49ers defense, running backs, coaching staff blew away the Dolphins. Marino had good receivers but I believe they were good because Marino was the QB. Take Marino away and the Marks brothers were just okay. Marino is obviously the greatest passer of all time. Hands down, without question. It's not even up for debate at this point.
@Fries yeah I remember the Patriots were an extremely run heavy team then. They had the most yards rushing as a team of all-time with ZERO 1k yard rushers! They all just got behind big John Hannah.
Montana is a legend he did it with the Irish, did it with the 49ers, did it with the Chiefs. There are 3 QBs with 4 or more Super Bowls that is Terry Bradshaw, Joe Montana, and Tom Brady I have no idea why people try and make them less of what they are yes they had good teams but so didn't other guys and yet they won a lot of Super Bowls so yeah that tells you something.
Denver always had a better D than Miami. They also had a better running game but nothing special. And like the guy in the video said, Elway put up a lot of bad games. Something that was far less frequent for Marino.
Boomer was a 2nd round pick because he stated that he would not play for the USFL. NFL owners knew they could get him in the 2nd round while they divided up the leftovers from the USFL draft in January.
As a REdskins fan, YES FOUTS should be ahead of Elway. Fouts just had the misfortine of being in the same division of the Raiders and a having a Stinky Defense. I remember making a mental note when The Super Chargers were going to be on Monday night football as a kid in the 70's. Never dreamed I was watching the future of 80's Redskins offensive. He drove the Cowboys nuts in a first half game on Monday night, a few years removed from them winning the Super Bowl (doomsday defense).
Dave Krieg being on this list is a great catch by the Network. I saw a lot of Seattle games on TV during the 1980's and #17 was really good, as long as you could overcome his tendency to fumble.
They had a nickname for him in Seattle called "Soap Dish." It was like the ball just slipped out of his hands. It didn't take away from the magical plays he could make, but it certainly hurt his team overall looking back on it.
80s QBs... man I’m all 80s football. McMahon, Krieg, and Boomer gotta go. To leave Plunkett and Randall Cunningham off is a travesty. You HAVE to add Doug Williams though! Thats an even bigger travesty!!! But not just because of the Super Bowl. He put up very good numbers and was winning games in Tampa Bay... nobody won in Tampa Bay. He got them to the playoffs 3 times! The Super Bowl in 87 was the feather in his cap. When he left for the USFL Tampa didn’t make it back to the playoffs for another 15 seasons. Steve Young didn’t get them there, Vinnie Testaverde didn’t get em there. He also changed the game in the way NFL management views black quarterbacks. Everyone is always a prisoner of now, foolish to not have him on this list.
I am still a fan of Dave Kreig. I was pleasantly surprised to see him on this list. I agree that several who were not on the list but should've been. Many who were overlooked have been named by other "commenters".
I'd like to point out this list, is based on 80's seasons, 80 through 69, with the Superbowl being played in the new year, but considered as part of previous year season. For the 80's SEASONS Montana had 4 rings, Plunkett 2, McMahon 1, Theismann 1, Simms 1, and Doug Williams 1. To put Plunkett on list just because he won 2 Superbowls, would also mean including Doug williams, Warren Moon on the other hand had his most productive and successful NFL seasons in the 90s. Now had Williams NOT spent 2 years in USFL, (and another recovering from injury,) He most likely would've made this list. However; as far as 80's NFL "Starting QB's" go he misses the list as do Warren Moon and Plunkett. = Jim Plunkett 80's numbers were 53 Starts/38W-19L 12546 yds 79TD/80 Int = Doug William's 80's numbers were 55 Starts/ 24W-30L-1T 13380 yds 75TD/ 61 Int = Warren Moon's 80's numbers were 84 Starts/ 35W-49L 18300yds 101TD/ 99 int = *Jim McMahon 80's numbers 72 Starts/ 50W-22L 13339 yds 77 TD/ 66 Int* McMahon makes list by virtue of more wins, fewer losses, and better TD/Int differential, than other three. (While only one had more starts than him.) Don't think I hate Plunkett, he's one of my all time favorite Raiders, (behind Long, Allen, (FB) Steve Smith, Hayes, Woodson, and Terry McDaniel.) The fact he was a BACK UP for most of 80's, (BEHIND Marc Wilson?!) keeps him off the list. As Desmond Howard and Larry Brown have shown , a Superbowl MVP award does not mean a great player. Brad Johnson was a Superbowl winning QB, but certainly not a top 10 QB of the 2000-2009 era. Nostalgia has a way of clouding judgement.
My top 10 for the 2000-2009 seasons top QB's would be Brees, P Manning, Brady, Roethlisberger, McNabb, Warner, Farve, Rivers, E Manning, and McNair, in no particular order.
You cant go by stats when were talking QBs in that era. It was a running league then, and when most QBs did pass, it was much more down the field ones that had a MUCH higher risk. Plunkett won 2 Superbowls in the decade, period. He should be on the list based soley on that, especially considering how good and huge of a favorite that Washington team was that he beat.
the only reason Plunkett was a back up to Marc Wilson(one of the worst qbs in history) was because Al Davis was stubborn wanted to get his money's worth out of Wilson....and it was not for most of the 80's it was one season...check your facts
Hank Bauer. Was a running back for those Air Coryell Chargers. Not even the best running back on the Chargers. James Brooks was much better. And I agree with you. Montana had a good D. So did Marino. Had the Killer Bs. Fouts didn’t have a good defense tho. Elway had a good defense. Had the #1 defense in 89. Got creamed by the guy at #1. I’d say this list is pretty accurate. I’d rather have Theismann over Simms but o well.
Trace Chmielewski I think of Hank Bauer as more of a Special Teams guy. He was just one of those guys who had to overachieve on the field because he didn’t have the talent to compete with the big boys. I imagine he’s probably just bitter because his team never won anything. He’s always like that, when I see the clips of him on here, haha!
@@tempest20000 The Killer Bs in 1983 were no better than 'good', and no better than average in 1984. In 1984 teams were averaging 4.7yds per carry against Miami. By 1985 the Killer Bs were barely serviceable. By 1986 they flat out sucked. If your argument is that Marino and Elway had defenses just as good as Montana's, that's just not true. Especially in the long term. Montana also benefited by playing on a revolutionary new offense that nobody had figured out yet. I'd still take Joe over Tom though.
@@tempest20000 Chuck Muncie (R.I.P.) also did very well for the Chargers in that era (19 rushing TD's in 1981) before a cocaine problem torpedoed his career.
The 2nd through 10th Best Quarterbacks of the 80s were 3-6 in the Super Bowl with 1 Super Bowl MVP. Jim Plunkett was 2-0 in the Super Bowl and was Super Bowl MVP once.
People disrespect Dave Krieg, man was a tough player, 3time pro bowler and turned Derrick Thomas’s 7 sack record game into a win for the hawks
abizit gill and no super bowls Jim Plunkett deserves to be on this list more than Dave Krieg does he’s got 2
As a die hard Seahawks fan, I can say that Dave Kreig could be extremely effective as a QB. Conversely, he could be easily rattled. & when he was rattled, he was tough to watch at times.
Agreed. The guy NEVER quit on any play. 7 sacks? Whatever, gonna toss this game winning TD so we can go home. I'm sore.
@@Fnoel98356 As a die hard Seahawks fan Frank, I know.
I grew up in that era. The Hawks had lots of talent. They underachieved.
Montana & Marino for sure are the top 2 qbs of the 1980s.
Joe Montana won 2 Superbowls before Jerry Rice was ever drafted.
Yes he did, but, he also had Pro bowler Dwight Clark and the very capable Freddie Solomon receiving along with a very strong defense that was led by the machine .... Ronnie Lott. Joe Montana won 4 Superbowls with the San Francisco 49ers, but, it must be pointed out that he had some serious talent playing with him for all 4 games and that is why I see him as the 2nd best ever.
@@steveTGO he had a GREAT Coach Also.
@@SportZFan4L1fe - Indeed, Belichick v Walsh .... they are both fantastic coaches. The other important point is salary caps, the Patriots and Tom Brady have had to draft and trade on a budget as apposed to having the financial freedom that Montana's 49ers had when they wanted to bring someone expensive to the team
He was still surrounded by hall of famers
Thank you. Folks either don’t know or pretend to not know that Montana came onto a TRASH Niners team in ‘79-they went 3-13 that year and 6-10 in ‘80. Nobody saw the ‘81 team coming, going 13-3 and winning the SB. To pretend that Montana only won because he had a great supporting cast, is disingenuous as hell and ignores Montana’s individual greatness. Montana had the best intangibles of any QB since Unitas/Staubach-he could bring a team back from nowhere. He also won SBs with essentially 2 different rosters (the ‘81 and ‘84 SB teams were much different than the ‘88 and ‘89 teams. He didn’t “need” Rice, Taylor, etc to win
Dave Craig getting sacked by the Rams and then smacking the defender who sacked him in the hand to make him drop the ball recovering it and throwing a touchdown is one of the best plays I've ever seen
“Dan Marino isn’t a great quarterback because he never won a super bowl” True that must mean Randy Moss wasn’t an all time great receiver. Genius logic
Sports writers can be so stupid sometimes. That guy arguing Phil Simms should have been higher? Total clown.
Lmao, right!!! Just like Barry Sanders and Jim Brown must not be great RB's 😂😂😂 they can say some silly stuff
THE BEST to ever play the position
Each of these talking heads contradict themselves over and over. Whoever Craig Carton is he say’s about Boomer “he’s #6, he shouldn’t be in the top10 never won a Super Bowl.” Not 5 min later “ # 6 is good shouldn’t be in top 5 “ it took him less then 5 minutes to back away from his Hot Take. Waffling idiots each and every one of them.
yup and jim plunkett should be #2 then
Jim Plunkett led the Oakland Raiders to two rings in the early 80s
Plunkett was the NFL’s 1980 comeback player of the year & most valuable player of super bowl XV (Eagles-10 Raiders-28)
He led his team to upset over Washington who had the NFL’s number one offense (SBXVIII Redskins-9 LA Raiders-38)
Only quarterback in the AFC to win a championship in the decade
Should be in the hall.
I'd put him in over Fouts. He was a winner, but never compiled great stats. He's a lot like Bradshaw. He had some terrible seasons when his team didn't have him as the starter. He never had a great season, but he had some hella good playoff runs.
sorry, its david kraig..... craig?
@@dodu8281with a K bruh.
@@comfortatsounds like eli manning.
Ken Anderson led the NFL in passing twice in the 80s.
Joe montana-twice
Jim Mcmahaon-zero
Bernie Kosar-zero
Dave Kreig-zero
Joe theisman-zero
Boomer esiason-once
Phil Simms-zero
John Elway-zero
Dan Marino-once
Dan Fouts-zero
Aside from 81 and the strike shortened 82 season, Anderson was a sub par QB in the 80's. He had three seasons in the 80's where he threw more INT's than TD's.
Look at the team Montana had even when the told Montana he was done and young stepped in they said the best qb not best team bcos number 3 Montana went to KC played with Marcus _Allen thogh the got better Montana couldn't get to the Super bowl with Kc so what does that say
F Montana #1 he is not
Marino led the NFL in passing FOUR (4) IV times in the 80's, dumbass!!
Garry Bradley McMahon never even threw for 3000 yards
People forget that Montana won two SBs before he got Rice or Taylor.
I don't forget buddy. True fans remember. He only had a total of 5 wide receivers on the entire '81 team. One being Mike Schuman... Lol
Mike Wilson &
dwight clark(rip)
Tom Brady has more super bowl wins but each one was a squeaker. Montana soundly beat Marino in their superbowl, then Montana annihilated Elway in theirs.
@@mikecally5720 Exactly. Joe was never bailed out by the kicker.
No, he didn't. Every SB involved Jerry Rice, the GOAT
#1 fact about Marino is that he riddled the '85 Bears in a game for the ages. No one else came close to touching them.
That’s a fact!
I remember that game, and for the rest of the season, I thought to myself, "Man, I hope they don't play the Dolphins again!"
Yeah, he just tore apart the defense that year. All credit to him for that.
I'm pretty sure the Bears turning the ball over 4 times didn't help
The bittersweet part of that is they were VERY close to a Super Bowl rematch. But they blew it against the Patriots in the AFC Championship then NE put up no fight whatsoever in New Orleans.
@@jpmnky Bears crushed that human Pez dispenser Steve Grogan.
Jim Plunkett, once again, gets no respect. They didn't even mention him, did they? And he won 2 Super Bowls!
Not with the team that drafted him Patriots he got saved in Oakland
@@sactownsteelers6748 He played with the Pats in the 70s. In the 80s he was with the Raiders.
@Harry Engel Yes, but Plunkett was a Super Bowl MVP and Comeback Player of the Year. He could win big games. I always liked White but he could never win the big games. And McMahon was iconic and flashy but except for 1985, generally undependable.
@devildog1982z yeah I'm a Steeler fan and hated Plunkett because he beat my Steelers in 80 and 83. This argument that "he had a great team" doesn't hold water. Show me a 2 time SB winning QB who didn't have a great team.
Plunkett never gets the respect he deserves. Jim McMahon wasn't that great. The 85 Bear defense carried them.
Top 10 quarterbacks of the 1980's? More like the top 9 quarterbacks after Joe Montana. I mean, come on...anybody with half a brain knows who was at the top of this list.
100%
I have to admit that Joe Montana was the very first name that popped into my head when you think QBs and the 1980s. Montana is the first name that comes to mind because he’s was a winner. Not really concerned with the stats or numbers except for the number in the win column.
Otherwise, Dan Marino was the second name that came to mind after Joe. Marino was the best pure passer of the 1980s and maybe of all time. Dan just never had a running game to offset the passing game. Everyone knew Miami had to pass, because they couldn’t do anything else, but still couldn’t stop him from making the completion.
Montana knew how to win. No one was calmer or more in control of the offense in tight situations than Montana. All of the other great QBs of the 80s are similar to Marino, they put up big numbers, but unlike Joe, they couldn’t win the big games.
Marino, Elway and Jim Kelly made Super Bowl appearances, some of them made multiple appearances, but couldn’t come away with a win, in fact, Elway took miserable loses in the Super Bowls, setting records for being beat so bad. Elway was finally able to get a couple of Super Bowl wins, but that was in the 1990s and with Shanahan as head coach, rather than Dan Reeves.
@@RoarOfWolverine I have Elway only because I believe talent wise he was the best. I wiffed on Jim Kelly on my list. I would've included him but I always thought of him as a doing his best in the '90s. Hell I'll kick Simms off my list and put Jim at 9. He was way better than Philop.
Montana, the man who couldn't throw the ball over 25 yards but did less with more who happened to have the 3 best receivers in the league. Totally overrated; he would've been the best of the above-average QBs on a lesser team.
Well yeah, anyone who watched football in the 80's pretty much knew, but it's still cool watching the other nine. Isn't it?
Dan Marino lost to one of the most balanced teams of all time. The '84 49ers not only had one of the great offenses of all time, they had one of the all-time great defenses. That team gets overshadowed by the '85 Bears and the '86 Giants, but really that '84 49er defense was nasty!
Fans actually would have been treated to a better game if that SB was between the '84 Seahawks vs '84 49ers... That Seattle secondary back then was the original LOB!
Exactly. And even in Niners history of the 80s, they get overshadowed by the teams that won in ‘88 and ‘89 that had the media darlings like Rice, Young, etc on that team....and “The Drive”. The ‘84 Niners are one of the best teams ever IMO, and I’m a lifelong NY Giants fan
Yeah, George Seifert is the most underrated coach in NFL history. Those 80's 49er defenses were amazing. They had like seven playoff games where they held opponents to 10 points or less, and 12 games they held teams under 20.
What about the '89 NINERS D ? They outscored there opponents 126-16 in the playoffs. Pretty comparable to the '85 Bears who outscored theirs 95 -10 I think. The 95 points could be wrong though. I know the 10 points given up is right. But I do know it's in the 90's and not more than 100...
The 49ers also had home field advantage essentially by playing in Stanford Stadium.
Warren moon should have been on that list.
Old School Curt Only Marino had better numbers than Moon in the '80s
@Randall Denison Granted but his numbers was just as good as anyone else in the '80s.
Moon's best years was in the 90's
To omit Moon, but waste a space on jim McMahon is utterly stupid.
@Randall Denison Moon was a better QB than McMahon for sure
Do we have to see Theismann's leg get shattered every time we talk about him?!!
Warren moon, most underrated...
Phil Simms is underrated and that is coming from a Cowboys fan that hated Simms in the 80's-90's. Randall Cunningham and Warren Moon should have been on this list.
Wait what! They didn't include Warren Moon?!?!?!?! I have him #2 on my list between Montana and Marino. I'm done here, I'm not even finishing this video.
Truth.
Phil Simms didn't have the weapons that Marino, Elway, Theismann or Fouts had. All had HOF receivers even Krieg had Largent.
@@philipwujr.4786 - People often forget that Simms was having a great year and possible MVP year in 1990. I totally agree with you, he had no HOF receivers but he did have one very good TE in Mark Bavaro but still. I don't think he gets nearly the credit he deserves and again, I'm a Cowboys fan. I still think Simms should be in the HOF.
@@nates9029 Good to hear coming from a Cowboys fan the East was full of classic rivalry games. Cowboys, Redskins, Eagles no matter the rosters It was must see football.
@@philipwujr.4786 - I grew up watching the NFC East from the early 80's on. I loved it when the Super Bowl came through the NFC East from 90-93 and 95...except for the Eagles. I respected teams like the Redskins of the early to mid 80's, the Giants from the late 80's and the Eagles from the late 80's. That was football as I grew up watching it. When the Giants won in 86, they were the best team in football. When the Skins won in 87, they were the best team in football. The Cowboys weren't very good then but the games were always interesting and tough. Even when the Giants won their most recent Super Bowls, I wasn't overly pissed - partially because they beat the Patriots but also because I respect the Giants and their fans. The team and fans I don't respect are the Eagles. Their fans acted like they had won a dozen Super Bowls before they even won one. I miss those teams from the 80's and early 90's. People always talk about the LT's and players like him but they forget players like Randall Cunningham, Gary Clark, Charles Mann, Carl Banks, Mark Bavaro , Joe Morris, Phil Simms and many others.
That Dave Kreig Fumble saved for a TD was crazy!
No love for Danny White, eh? Taking over for the #1 QB of the 70s, 3 straight NFC Championships, setting team records all over the place, winning games in classic style, etc. Come on man!
Probably the last Punter/QB in NFL history. Loved Danny White, but with only ten slots, its tough to put him on this list.
I agree. This list is kind of crazy.
You don't want to be the man, that REPLACES the Man... I loved Danny White he never GOT the RESPECT that he deserves. Yes QB/ Punters don't happen once in a 100 yrs NFL wise.
Life long 2nd generation Cowboys fan. He was on talented teams that always got beat in the games that mattered the most. Good stats just not successful. Could have been at the bottom as only Plunkett, Montana, Theismann, Williams, Simms, and McMahon won it all in the eighties. Four other slots for non Superbowl winning qb's. Marino, Elway, and Boomer. Looking at Kreig on this one or Kosar but I like Kosar. Tough. Tough one.
They should've just called this one the Top 9 quarterbacks of the 80s after Joe Montana.
Yup… truth!
Why does a guy have to win a Super Bowl to be considered a great QB!? There were plenty of guys like Moon, Kosar, Boomer, Marino, and Jurgensen who were great QBs who didn’t win championships but still need to be remembered as great QBs.
Hey, I'm a Montana guy, but you are right. Kosar especially. I liked him. Its just that like Boomer said..Joe made it look easy..it is not. Montana saw the play and defenses before the snap, saw 4 targets in 3 steps, and never hung a receiver out to dry..like Young did later. Yards after catch are huge, and ball being thrown to in-stride receiver, in front of him, is the key.
Dan Marino was a great qb. Another Western PA guy like Joe.
Elway whined too much. To me, that 55-10 loss is too much to overcome in my opinion. And they had a top secondary with Atwater and company..yet Joe destroyed them. Just like Miami's "killer B" defense, which I still laugh at because I won a lot of money in that SB...and I gave Miami 20 points and still won.lmao
They put Kosar on this list. They put Marino. They put fucking Dave Kreig on. So its obviously not all about SBs...
Boomer. Half the list is without SBs.
No Plunkett. And he has 2 SBs...
Elway didn't win one in the 80s, Dan Fours. More guys on the list without a SB then guys with one. So your statement doesn't really apply here.
Fouts has the most badass dropback/ throwing motion it was like he was throwing those bolts from his uni ./ Take out Dave Kreig insert Danny White 3 straight NFC Championship games on a huge stage .
How is Ken Anderson not on the list? 1981 NFL MVP!
Branden武蘭伝 yea but Sipe had his 1 good year. After that didn’t do as well and went to the USFL.
NOOOO DAMN DOUBT!!!🤬
Actually, he was on the 70's list.
Probably due to the fact he only he had 1 good year in the 80s
he is on the 70s all time list
Warren Moon should be in the top 10
He was a better QB in the 90s than the 80s.
@@isaacgreen3273 I think he was underappreciated back in the 80's cause he put up some good numbers in the 80's
I love Moon but he kinda straddled the 80s and 90s, and his peak years were in the early 90s.
@@isaacgreen3273 can you upload the top 10 quarterbacks of the 90s? an the top 10 things we miss about football?
I will try to find them.
The 80s was the decade that made me fall in love with football!
As a lifelong, 2nd generation Cowboys fan, the greatest disappointment in NFL history was Marino not winning a Super Bowl.
Do not forget, there was 21 other starters that contributed to the team not winning those Super Bowl's
Naw. It's Bernie Kosar fella. He took it to the broncos, Bengals, and Raiders.
@@edfisher387 Everyone knows how QBs are judged in this league. It's not fair, but it's the way it is.
Seeing the Bernie Kosar stuff really takes me back. My family had season tickets a couple of those years and those Sundays were dinner and the Browns with the family. Hell we dressed up in dawg garb and it was an event. It was the best times in my life through those years and Bernie and the Browns were the nucleus
Kids don't even know, great time for QBs.
Heck yea
i work with a few 20 somethings who give me shit for saying john elway was the best of all-time. they argue brady, because he has the most rings, and then say say aaron rodgers second best, which completely invalidates their argument for brady. hahaha. if you are going by rings it's brady, montana, bradshaw, etc. but basing it solely off of super bowls or stats, to me, is narrow minded. there are so many factors that go into being a great qb.
@Jack Me-Hoff Ok child. Bye.
The 2000s and 2010s were great times for QBs as well. Tom Brady, Drew Brees, the Manning bros, Aaron Rodgers, Ben Roethlisberger, Russell Wilson, Phillip Rivers, Tony Romo. There are a few more. some great talents breaking out this decade too
As a Chicago Bears fan, I'm glad Jim McMahon made this list.
I am too. I think a case could be made for a couple of others, but people don't remember just how different the Bears were with him under the center as opposed to without him.
Maybe other QBs are just as successful if you put him in McMahon's place? Sure. But he still was the right fit at the right time for the right team.
@@DaDitka fuller. Tomszak was hurt later i believe
They won with him in there in 86till that stupid packer game
How is Randall NOT on this list?
B/c he didn't consistently start for the Eagles until '87 and he wasn't the Randall we remember until at least '88 or '89. I say this as an Eagles fan who loves Randall. Jaws was the better Philly QB of the 80's tho Randall had the more impressive talent and career.
The real missing guy is Steve Bartkowski. Led the league in passing once. Was top 5 3 or 4 times. Quite possibly the strongest arm in the history of the league.
The 1980 & 1981 teams were fun to watch
Only being a top 5 qb 3 times in a decade isn’t deserving of this list. And having a strong arm means jack shit when you’re talking about being a great quarterback
Yeah, nope
Steve had a low completion pct, threw almost as many int's as td's and only played until 83 or 84 as a starter. In his last 2 years he started 5 or 6 games each year.
@@bigpapi6688 How would you know fat boy?
@@kendallevans4079 ooo good one
Teams win superbowls not QBs. Most important position, but QBs that have help on both sides of the ball are able to win multiple rings. Marino was better than Montana individually. No disrespect to Joe he was phenomenal in his own right but Marino was something the nfl will never see ever again.
I think xxx is a great QB because he was on a team with a great offense and a great defense is one of the stupidest comments a person can make. There have been some less than stellar quarterbacks who were on championship teams.
Riddle me this - how many times has having the leagues highest paid quarterback resulted in a teams winning the Super Bowl?
There are studies which show that as the percent of the overall teams salary given to the starting quarterback exceeds 10% their chances of winning a championship go down.
Doug Williams if he had played with a more stable organization or owner other than Hugh Culverhouse he would have made this list in his sleep.
Good point, make sure a solid line is keeping guys off him also.
@Hector Rodriguez He was replaced by Rypien he wasn't given a chance to win his job back by Gibbs so he left.
@Harry Engel He was a HEISMAN CANDIDATE coming out of college at Grambling in '78 also a FIRST ROUND CHOICE.He was the FIRST BLACK QB to be a Heisman nominee from a Historically Black College and the second overall joining SANDY STEVENS from Minnesota in the early '60s.
@@67marlins81 There were some instances in which his lineman in Tampa played very well while he starting.
@@dwightlove3704 Not only that but DW was the QB when Tampa had their first real success as a franchise, making it all the way to the NFC championship game before falling to the Rams in a flash flood 😆 😆, IIRC. Tampa had a good D, I realize, and they were shut out at home vs L.A., but the Rams only managed 9 pts, plus the Rams had a heckuva D 8n ‘79. The game was a MESS... but my point is, he helped get TB to within a (very close) a game of the Super Bowl.
Jim Plunkett won two Super Bowls in the 80s. Joe Theisman won one, but he did so with a coach who won two additional Super Bowls with with two other quarterbacks.
Plunkett had 2 or 3 good seasons and other than that he sucked. The '83 Raiders were all about their defense and Marcus Allen.
Because his statistics and overall play was horrendous. Yes, he had a couple big playoff/SB moments but he won because of his team. He threw 34 more INTs than TDs. Never made a Pro bowl and never threw for 3000 yards. Never threw for 3000 yards once in his entire career. Cmon man….
Jim was perfect for the team he played for in the end. Great student of the game.
imagine winning 4 super bowls and still having doubters. joe is the goat.
People think Tom Brady is the GOAT even though he's a glorified check down merchant
@@TheToad075
Goat 🐐 Brady 7 rings and 5 sb mvps and 617 td passes and 83 td passes and 14 game winning drives and 15 pro bowl selections all 6 NFL records
Lies and more lies that Tom Brady only throws check downs more proof you don't know football 😂
@Fries he won three super bowls playing like a backup
@Fries Merry Christmas man
@@TheToad075
Like Joe Montana never threw check downs tp Rodger Craig out backfield 💀
2021 NFC championship
Buccaneers 7 Packers 7
Tom Brady 52 yard deep pass to Chris Goodwin on 3rd and 10 to keep drive alive and score Buccaneers 14-7 lead
2021 NFC championship
Buccaneers 14 Packers 10
Tom Brady 39 yard deep pass for touchdown to Scotty Miller before half and Buccaneers 21-10 lead
Last i checked those arent check downs clown
Goat 🐐 Brady 7 rings and 5 sb mvps better all time Quarterback then Montana 4 rings and 3 sb mvps
Joe Namath threw for 4,007 yards in the late 1960’s in 14 games 🏈💎...@42:11 love how Bernie says what he says 🤩
Without the 1985 season, Jim McMahon isn't in the top 20. He was the Eli Manning of the 1980s.
Robert Paige so Jim McMahon QB’ed a team with the 3rd lowest ranked defense and running game to a SB title (like Eli did in 2011)??? So Jim McMahon threw for 330 yards and multiple TDs in -17 degree wind chill (like Eli did in Green Bay in the 2007 NFC title game)?? So Jim McMahon threw the football 58 times without an INT in muddy conditions against the most back-cracking defense in the NFL (like Eli did in the 2011 NFC title game)??? Oh yeah, McMahon did NONE of those things. To say nothing of Eli’s 240+ consecutive starts, 5,000 yard passing season, multiple 30 TD seasons, etc
@@nujeru99 Dude... Chill.
I'd say that he's more like Bradshaw
Eli Manning has the skills and intelligence to lead a good team. Mcmahon never demonstrated either, period.
Eli is a hall of famer Jim McMahon is a glorified draft whiff
People need to chill out a little bit on the "Did he win a SB thing" The Giants, w/ their defense and running game, could win a SB w/ Simms or Hostetler. The '85 Bears just needed a better QB than Steve Fuller to win a SB
As a diehard Bears fan, I will tell you that Simms was substantially better than McMahon. McMahon never came close to throwing for 3000 yards in a season.
@Harry Engel You can write this down for all posterity: Matt Contreras could & would have taken the Bears to the Super Bowl in 1985....AND he would have had the sense ( unlike Mcmahon) to agree with coach Ditka at halftime during the only 1985 loss on that Monday night, screaming at the defense to try a zone to counteract the success my Dolphins were having against the Bears !!! Unfortunately for the Bears, their defensive coordinator was a dense, self-righteous, ignorant failure as a coach who could never admit his own stupidity in continually running the same defense out there drive-after-drive, getting humiliated. Ryan and McMahon were both too dumb to change strategy, even with the whole country watching.
Sid Luckman at 68 in ‘85 could’ve won a Super Bowl with the 85 bears defense and Sweetness
I have Montana ahead of Brady because he played when the quarterbacks and receivers could actually Be Hit. It's flag football now and you get suspended if you hit the star QB.
I count the stats from the time Roger Goodell took over with an *. It's easy to put up numbers where you throw the ball 40-50x a game, and it's a penalty if you spit on the QB. The question is if you take the QB's from the 2000's and put them in the 1980's, would they succeed? We know that the QBs from before would LOVE these new situations
I always thinks that Joe Montana's 1st and 2nd Super Bowls are kinda like Russell Wilson's winning Super Bowl with the Legion Of Boom
That 81 and 84 San Fransisco 49ers had a great secondary, great pass rush, solid running game and an underrated receiving corps
Pleasantly surprised to see Dave Krieg on the list. He's typically overlooked by everyone outside Seattle. I'm always surprised that so many people who claim to be NFL fans don't know who he is. Steve Largent is generally considered one of the top 3 WRs of the 80s. Everyone knows who he is, but few people know who threw the ball to him for most of the decade. The most frustrating thing about Krieg was his inconsistency. His career stats show he was a very good QB, but that's what he averaged out to over time. He might have had the greatest standard deviation in his game stats than any other QB. One week he would play like Joe Montana in his prime, and the next week he would look like the worst QB in the league. The highlights in this video demonstrate that. You see him dropping dimes to Largent, and then you see the ball fall out of his hand when he tries to throw it. You never knew which Krieg you would get from week to week.
So would you compare him with today's Ryan Fitzpatrick? I imagine Krieg, on average, is probably a little better (after all, Seattle deemed him good enough to actually keep for quite a while.)
@@thenumberquelve158 That might be a good comparison. I haven't followed Fitzpatrick much, but from what I know about him he is also hot and cold from week to week. As for keeping him, it was different era before free agency. Teams were stuck with their QBs and could only replace them through the draft or trade. Krieg was benched in the middle of the 86 season after Knox grew tired of his streaky play, but his backups were even worse and they lost every game, so he put Krieg back in and he played like Joe Montana for the rest of the season. Krieg seemed to drive Knox crazy with his inconsistency, and I think he might have picked up a different QB in free agency if it was available.
Long live Zorn
This list probably has the most obvious Top 4 imaginable, and then a really hard toss-up between 5-10.
Also 4:42 is a hilarious take and I'm glad they kept that in. xD
and so is "hE cAN'T bE oN tHE tOP tEN oF tHE dECADE bECAUSE hE nEVER wON a sUPERBOWL", as if there were more than ten Superbowls played during the 1980s.
And hey, the little nods to 1980s programming is kinda cute. Rare instance of NFL Films doing humor right.
I love Boomer. It’s a shame he didn’t have better teams. Love his play style.
no Jim Plunkett? seriously the guy won 2 super bowls and he’s not on the list? only 2 QBs won more them 2 championships (Jim Plunkett and Joe Montana) in the 80s and you got guys on here that never even got to the show shame on you
Lol.
Any "Average" fan that thinks Dan doesn't deserve to be ranked second shouldn't be a football fan. Average, OR otherwise.
My top ten NFL QB 1980's were
10.) Ken Anderson
9.) Randall Cunningham
8.) Bernie Kosar
7.) Phil Simms
6.) Boomer Esiason
5.) Joe Theismann
4.) Dan Fouts
3.) Dan Marino
2.) John Elway
1.) Joe Montana
Sorry Jim McMahon you had too many injuries sorry Dave Krieg you had too many fumbles and sorry Doug Williams you jumped from the NFL to the USFL
Warren moon?...
Jim Plunkett fucked over again.
Randell Cunningham should've been on here
For what? He was only a starter 3 seasons of the 80s, yet he led the league in fumbles twice and, sacks 3 times, and yards lost on sacks 3 times. He even led the league in losing yards on sacks when he only started 5 games.
I agree, I watched what he would do to my giants , jumping over 2 players to get in the endzone.
@Harry Engel don't know whether the episode is on here, but I believe he did make the top 10 of the 90s list. Sounds about right.
Absolutely not Ron Jaworski was the better QB for the Eagles played there longer, put up better numbers and actually got to a Super Bowl.
Randall Cunningham was nothing but a highlight reel during his time at the Eagles it wasn’t till he got to Minnesota and was surrounded by talented offence that he became a more of a pocket passer and not running around the field thinking its The Randall Cunningham Show that got him so banged up in Philadelphia that forced him to quit in the first place.
I had Moon over McMahon, other than that, pretty good list. Of course Moon had some pretty good early 90's stuff.
Moon's numbers weren't really that great in the 80's. And his teams stunk in the 80's.
I love the fact that thier agrument for Dave Craig to be higher on this list is he was the man to be sacked more and fumbled more
These yokels think Boomer didn't belong because he didn't win a Super Bowl? Only 6 QBs won them in the 80s, so if that's the rule, you can't have a top 10 LIST.
So 4 teams didn't have one
Hell, 23 teams didn't have one. The 49ers won 4 SB in the decade (Montana), Raiders 2 (Plunkett), Redskins 2 (Theismann, Williams), Giants 1 (Simms), and Bears (McMahon). Those are the only teams/QBs to win thosee games that decade, while there were 28 teams in the league at the time.
If you played for an AFC team between the mid eighties to late nineties you’re ass wasn’t winning a super bowl.
Let me rephrase that. If you weren’t part of the 49ers, Giants, Redskins, Cowboys or Bears roster during that time you’re not winning a Super Bowl.
@devildog1982zWho does, who's not on this list? Name the replacement.
well, in truth, montana should be #1-5...then you have enough...
The dumbest argument in sports well he has a ring so he's the better player
Exactly, using that logic you are saying Mark Rypien is better than Dan Marino🤣
@@SuperBoomshack Yeah, no. That only shows how great a coach Gibbs was, with 3 different QBs.
@@gerberbernstein7360 none of them could sniff marino's jock
NEver let a Michael Jordan stan hear you say that.
Trent Dilfer has a ring. Doesn’t make him great
Elway should be ahead of Fouts. 3 Superbowls appearances with nothin vs 3 AFC championship games appearances with HOF WR and TE( godfather of modern TE), and pro bowl WR.
That opening bit was amazing. "Sorry Rachelle."
I'm old. I grew up in the 80s.
I'm playing against huge guys (6'2) and was barely 6'.
So I developed "The Bernie Kosar Sidearm". I literally learned how to wing a pass under or over a defender's shoulders on a rope. I would practice every day learning how to throw sidearm because these big huge dudes were in my face all day.
i played corner back in the 80's. Not in college let alone being a prospect or anything, but QBs who could find lanes were SO much more difficult then "big" arms or big guys bc I couldn't get a read or a jump watching you guys. Fun times though.
It's fun to throw a football sidearm, you get tremendous rotation on the ball, it spins like crazy. And I find you can get amazing accuracy throwing sidearm, ala Bernie, Stabler, Steve Young. I remember Brad Johnson used to throw almost straight over the top and the ball had like no spin on it and would always wobble and sputter. Brad was decent, but his passes looked so ugly.
10. John Witkowski
9. Todd Hons
8. Joe Ferguson
7. Rusty Hilger
6. Chuck Long
5. Bob Gagliano
4. Jeff Komlo
3. Eric Hipple
2. Rodney Peete
1. Gary Danielson
Lions top 10 of the 80s
I believe, you judge the man on how he played the position. Not how many championships his team won.
championships are highest stress and pressure, therefore the true test...
Agreed. There's been some teams that won SB's with blah to mediocre QB play; Peyton Manning was abysmal in 2015 but the Broncos won it all anyway. Brad Johnson and Trent Dilfer weren't amazing QBs but got the Ravens and Bucs to Super Bowl W's.
Phil Simms was an extension of Parcels on the field this coming from a Cowboys fan
That dude said John elway was the best qb of the 80s. I'll have what he's having
He also said he's the best ever and he's right
same guy said elway was the best all time...keep smoking it...
@@michaeldonovan4793 thats what he said if you look at it again you will hear it. Keep smoking.
I would have Elway in the top three.
Jim McMahon will always be my favorite QB of all time. I don’t like most cocky shithead types but idk the way McMahon played the position like a FB really impressed me. His passing stats were not great, but combining what he could do passing with how he ran for extra yards… That’s what I would coach up.
Lynn Dickey was a pretty damn good QB. Had he had a team capable of winning anything he would be near the top of this list. I get that he's not on, Green Bay was terrible the entire decade but nonetheless as far as quarterbacking goes, he was damn good.
I would agree. Very solid on a bad team.
Didn’t he go hog wild in a shootout against Theismann and the Redskins at home on Monday Night Football?
@@orangeandblackattack Horrible defense but he had Coffman, Jefferson and Loften for recievers and a t,000 yard rusher in Terry Middleton. Hard to say he was worse off than Montana or Fouts.
My top ten. 1. Montana 2. Marino 3. Elway 4. Fouts 5. Boomer 6. Theismann 7. Plunkett 8. Doug Williams 9. Kosar 10. Moon
Elway did more with less than anybody else in the 80"s. I think he was second behind Montana
Elway was very fortunate to have played for Dan Reeves
@@howardcosell2022 Think you got that backwards.
@@z1g Reeves' teams would still be perennial playoff contenders w/o Elway. They don't get to the Super Bowl w/o Elway though
@@howardcosell2022 We'll have to agree to disagree on that. I admire Dan Reeves as a coach but he was more than the coach and he was quite a failure while wearing his other hats.
@@z1g Reeves was power hungry, but Joe Collier ran the defenses way before the 'Orange Crush' years of the 70's. He always had one of the best defenses in the AFC throughout the 80's. Reeves would have won with a QB like Steve DeBerg
Jim Plunkett
Raiders Quarterback (1980-86)
Most Valuable Player of SBXV with the 1980 Oakland Raiders (Raiders 27 Eagles 10)
1980 NFL Comeback player of the year
Led the 1983 Los Angeles Raiders to a second Super Bowl in four seasons
LA Raiders 38 Redskins 9 SBXVIII
I wasn't even alive this decade, and I know Joe was gonna be #1. I'm more interested in the other 9 spots.
Well yeah Montana beat 3 of the QB’s listed in Super Bowls. He beat another one whose listed on the top 10 QB’s of the 1970’s.
Duh. Four Superbowls. My grandma knew
I pretty much knew who the top 3 wrre gunna be before watching this!!
Issac Green Thank you recognizing my comments about Randall Cunningham and Doug Williams.
As a Charger fan I'll take Fouts at three. Probably overrated but I'll take it ;)
Poor Jim plunkett. I'll never understand why that man gets no respect. Him or Tom Flores. I don't like much about the raiders but even I know that Plunkett was a huge part of those Super Bowl wins.
Boom. Number one, no surprise. You just can’t talk about 80’s football and leave out Joe Cool. You just can’t. He and his Niners dominated the decade.
It's Joe Montana and the 9 battling for 2nd place in the 80s. For those complaining about Fouts, Marino, and Elway being the 3 after Joe:
San Diego was defense optional under Air Coryell
Marino came in when the Dolphins no-name D was aging and the organization didn't replace them or give him a running back to keep defenses honest.
Elway took the Broncos with average rosters to 3 Super Bowls in 4 years. In the 90s, he had Terrell Davis to hand off to and a defense to win Super Bowls.
This episode was recorded on my 19th birthday. Good thing I noticed the June 29 category of the news crawl.
I would put Ken O'Brien on here before Jim McMahon! Way better passer, his shootouts with Marino where legendary...also a 1983 alumnus. Still holds most Jet passing records...they talk about Namath but Ken was the real deal. Bad coaches, drafts and teams, no reliable recievers still was solid.
My favorite decade of football!
I’ll say this to constant hater Dan Amendalora. Why didn’t the Bears win it all in 86? The D was almost just as good. What was different? Oh McMahon was out and Flutie played they lost to Skins in playoffs. Not saying McMahon was great but give the man some credit for SB win.
Flutie was young then. Older Flutie would have taken that Bears team to the Super bowl
Tad Pole probably Bills Flutie was legit and he got screwed when Wade Phillips got orders from ownership to bench him in playoff game in 99 vs Titans Music City Miracle. Johnson didn’t play bad but maybe Bills r ahead by more if Flutie played so a miracle play wouldn’t matter
Dan Amendalora hates on everyone and everything on this show. He weirdly has an obsession with Drew Bledsoe though
JM got hurt because the rules didn't protect the QB like they do now. A lot of extra hits on JM because opponents hated him.
It’s a no brainer who #1 would be for the ‘80’s. The real question would be 2-10. Also, Super Bowl wins are a team accomplishment. You can be a amazing QB and not win a Super Bowl
1:08-I was at this game and saw this play from this vantage point. My dad's season tickets were in that endzone in Philly. And if Neil Lomax hadn't been so injury prone he'd be on this list.
Neil Lomax had a great career in St. Louis. He used to get his head handed to him every week like David Carr and he still managed two pro-bowls. If he had a O-line like Jim Hart's of the 70's, he would have been remembered. Phil Simms was consistently the 2nd or 3rd best QB every year in the NFC East
It kinda baffles me that some of these people use Super Bowls as an argument for this list considering Montana won half the Super Bowls this decade...you kinda have to have non Super Bowl winners here
Jim Plunkett and Ron Jaworski should be ranked above McMahon and I'm a Bears
I'm sure you're justifiably proud of Jim Plunkett's Hispanic heritage ( also Joe Kapp ), and and Jaworski's toughness, and so I agree with you. I'll say Mcmahon the clown doesn't even belong on this list...sorry.
@@67marlins81 There heritage has nothing to do with their performance. McMahon benefited from his defense more than anyone. He was Trent Dilfer before Trent Dilfer
@@matthewcontreras6030 Except Trent Dilfer wasn't a first-class jerk. Big difference.
Real list...1. Montana 2. Marino 3. Elway 4. Fouts 5. Moon 6. Thiesman 7. Simms 8.Plunkett 9. Cunningham 10. Esiason
Replace Boomer with Kozar and you'd have a decent list
Jim plunkett not on the list.. if my memory serves right only Joe Montana won as many or more super bowls in the 80s!!! STUPID LIST!!!
Montana won 3 in the 80's and his 4th Superbowl season started in 89, ended in 90.
@@MrHandsomerob23 technically the 80's decade goes from 81 - 90 (you start counting at 1, not 0), so anyway you slice it, it's 4 in the 80's.
LMFAO Plunkett sucked, I guess Hostetler and Rypien should be on the 90's list, look at Plunketts numbers FFS.
I remember watching a game between Joe Montana and the 49ers vs Bobby Hebert and the Saints. At halftime, the Saints were up 21 points. I turned to my buddy and bet him $100 in beer (in installments) that Joe would come back and win. Challenge accepted.
Guess what happened. I didn't have to pay for beer for a couple of weeks.
I think Joe had something like 40 come from behind victories in college & pros. Didn't even start at Notre Dame until his senior year.
I hate when people call players in any sport compilers. You do what you do. A lot of things are out of your control. Kreig played for a lot of 7-9 to 9-7 teams. You need whole teams to win. He had 1 real weapon and that was Steve Largent.
When he had a great running back it allowed them to be in position to make the playoffs. That wasn't very often. And he still managed to lead them to a then franchise best 12-4 record with a leading rusher David Hughes with 327 yards, a full back. Yeah, a bit underrated. Knox of course is heavily underrated in history at head coach. Man was a fantastic head coach and its a shame he never won the big one.
i love the music sounding close to some popular songs from the 80s
The difference in Marino and Montana was having a good defense
4:10 Joe Posnanski says that Jim McMahon shouldn't be on the list because he wasn't any good. That worthless blob should consider the fact that the Bears faced Joe Montana and the 49ers with Jim McMahon 4 times. The Bears won 3 out of 4. The two teams faced each other without McMahon during that period 2 times and the Bears got blown out both times. But you are right, Mister Expert, McMahon wasn't any good. He should be fired from SI. I would say that his SPORTS ANALYSIS isn't any good.
I predict top two, Montana or Marino
Jonathan Atkinson you sir are correct!
I made a list before I watched, had Krieg at 9, but they put my guy at 8. Sweet! Even better
Dan Marino had no where near the amount of weapons as Montana. The 49ers defense, running backs, coaching staff blew away the Dolphins. Marino had good receivers but I believe they were good because Marino was the QB. Take Marino away and the Marks brothers were just okay. Marino is obviously the greatest passer of all time. Hands down, without question. It's not even up for debate at this point.
Irving Fryar doubled his stats in his 30's playing with Marino. If that don't tell you something!
I don't think he got Flipper Anderson until 1989, did he?
Marino had good weapons. What he didn’t have was a running game or a defense
@Fries yeah I remember the Patriots were an extremely run heavy team then. They had the most yards rushing as a team of all-time with ZERO 1k yard rushers!
They all just got behind big John Hannah.
bullshit
Montana is a legend he did it with the Irish, did it with the 49ers, did it with the Chiefs. There are 3 QBs with 4 or more Super Bowls that is Terry Bradshaw, Joe Montana, and Tom Brady I have no idea why people try and make them less of what they are yes they had good teams but so didn't other guys and yet they won a lot of Super Bowls so yeah that tells you something.
Elway should be # 2 right behind Montana, Elway took three average Broncos teams to Superbowls, without him those teams were 6-10 at best
Denver always had a better D than Miami. They also had a better running game but nothing special. And like the guy in the video said, Elway put up a lot of bad games. Something that was far less frequent for Marino.
Elway was fortunate to play under Dan Reeves
Boomer was a 2nd round pick because he stated that he would not play for the USFL. NFL owners knew they could get him in the 2nd round while they divided up the leftovers from the USFL draft in January.
As a REdskins fan, YES FOUTS should be ahead of Elway. Fouts just had the misfortine of being in the same division of the Raiders and a having a Stinky Defense. I remember making a mental note when The Super Chargers were going to be on Monday night football as a kid in the 70's. Never dreamed I was watching the future of 80's Redskins offensive. He drove the Cowboys nuts in a first half game on Monday night, a few years removed from them winning the Super Bowl (doomsday defense).
Dave Krieg being on this list is a great catch by the Network. I saw a lot of Seattle games on TV during the 1980's and #17 was really good, as long as you could overcome his tendency to fumble.
They had a nickname for him in Seattle called "Soap Dish." It was like the ball just slipped out of his hands. It didn't take away from the magical plays he could make, but it certainly hurt his team overall looking back on it.
Maybe the Eric Dickerson of QB
80s QBs... man I’m all 80s football. McMahon, Krieg, and Boomer gotta go. To leave Plunkett and Randall Cunningham off is a travesty. You HAVE to add Doug Williams though! Thats an even bigger travesty!!!
But not just because of the Super Bowl. He put up very good numbers and was winning games in Tampa Bay... nobody won in Tampa Bay. He got them to the playoffs 3 times! The Super Bowl in 87 was the feather in his cap. When he left for the USFL Tampa didn’t make it back to the playoffs for another 15 seasons. Steve Young didn’t get them there, Vinnie Testaverde didn’t get em there. He also changed the game in the way NFL management views black quarterbacks. Everyone is always a prisoner of now, foolish to not have him on this list.
I am still a fan of Dave Kreig. I was pleasantly surprised to see him on this list. I agree that several who were not on the list but should've been. Many who were overlooked have been named by other "commenters".
Neil Lomax gets no love yet again he was the first good cardinal quarterback
Jim Hart?
Neil Lomax beat out Jim Hart and had a great career in Saint Louis. Phil Simms was consistently the 2nd or 3rd best QB in his own division
I'd like to point out this list, is based on 80's seasons, 80 through 69, with the Superbowl being played in the new year, but considered as part of previous year season. For the 80's SEASONS Montana had 4 rings, Plunkett 2, McMahon 1, Theismann 1, Simms 1, and Doug Williams 1. To put Plunkett on list just because he won 2 Superbowls, would also mean including Doug williams, Warren Moon on the other hand had his most productive and successful NFL seasons in the 90s. Now had Williams NOT spent 2 years in USFL, (and another recovering from injury,) He most likely would've made this list. However; as far as 80's NFL "Starting QB's" go he misses the list as do Warren Moon and Plunkett.
= Jim Plunkett 80's numbers were 53 Starts/38W-19L 12546 yds 79TD/80 Int
= Doug William's 80's numbers were 55 Starts/ 24W-30L-1T 13380 yds 75TD/ 61 Int
= Warren Moon's 80's numbers were 84 Starts/ 35W-49L 18300yds 101TD/ 99 int
= *Jim McMahon 80's numbers 72 Starts/ 50W-22L 13339 yds 77 TD/ 66 Int*
McMahon makes list by virtue of more wins, fewer losses, and better TD/Int differential, than other three. (While only one had more starts than him.)
Don't think I hate Plunkett, he's one of my all time favorite Raiders, (behind Long, Allen, (FB) Steve Smith, Hayes, Woodson, and Terry McDaniel.) The fact he was a BACK UP for most of 80's, (BEHIND Marc Wilson?!) keeps him off the list. As Desmond Howard and Larry Brown have shown , a Superbowl MVP award does not mean a great player. Brad Johnson was a Superbowl winning QB, but certainly not a top 10 QB of the 2000-2009 era. Nostalgia has a way of clouding judgement.
My top 10 for the 2000-2009 seasons top QB's would be Brees, P Manning, Brady, Roethlisberger, McNabb, Warner, Farve, Rivers, E Manning, and McNair, in no particular order.
You cant go by stats when were talking QBs in that era. It was a running league then, and when most QBs did pass, it was much more down the field ones that had a MUCH higher risk.
Plunkett won 2 Superbowls in the decade, period. He should be on the list based soley on that, especially considering how good and huge of a favorite that Washington team was that he beat.
the only reason Plunkett was a back up to Marc Wilson(one of the worst qbs in history) was because Al Davis was stubborn wanted to get his money's worth out of Wilson....and it was not for most of the 80's it was one season...check your facts
"Dave Kraig? Never heard of him" -- Every current seahawks fan
Dave Kraig definitely belongs on this list.
Agreed. Flip flop him and Bernie and that’s the right spot
McMahon could've been an ALL time great if he could've stayed healthy
And if he could see in both eyes...
😂😂😂 naw bruh
@@nickevans6646 how could anyone ever argue with such an intelligent and concrete rebuttal such as "🥴🥴🥴 naw bruh"?!
Love the Fouts segment. Hilarious and he was good.
Who is this clown at the very end? How can you be THAT upset about Joe being named #1?
Hank Bauer. Was a running back for those Air Coryell Chargers. Not even the best running back on the Chargers. James Brooks was much better.
And I agree with you. Montana had a good D. So did Marino. Had the Killer Bs. Fouts didn’t have a good defense tho. Elway had a good defense. Had the #1 defense in 89. Got creamed by the guy at #1.
I’d say this list is pretty accurate. I’d rather have Theismann over Simms but o well.
Trace Chmielewski I think of Hank Bauer as more of a Special Teams guy. He was just one of those guys who had to overachieve on the field because he didn’t have the talent to compete with the big boys. I imagine he’s probably just bitter because his team never won anything. He’s always like that, when I see the clips of him on here, haha!
No doubt. Probably an Elway relative. Whiners..lol
@@tempest20000 The Killer Bs in 1983 were no better than 'good', and no better than average in 1984. In 1984 teams were averaging 4.7yds per carry against Miami. By 1985 the Killer Bs were barely serviceable. By 1986 they flat out sucked. If your argument is that Marino and Elway had defenses just as good as Montana's, that's just not true. Especially in the long term. Montana also benefited by playing on a revolutionary new offense that nobody had figured out yet. I'd still take Joe over Tom though.
@@tempest20000 Chuck Muncie (R.I.P.) also did very well for the Chargers in that era (19 rushing TD's in 1981) before a cocaine problem torpedoed his career.
The 2nd through 10th Best Quarterbacks of the 80s were 3-6 in the Super Bowl with 1 Super Bowl MVP.
Jim Plunkett was 2-0 in the Super Bowl and was Super Bowl MVP once.