WREN KITCHEN - WATCH BEFORE YOU BUY PART 1

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  • Опубліковано 30 вер 2024
  • In this video we start to fit our first Wren kitchen but will it be our last one?
    This is the utility room cabinet fit out prior to starting the kitchen so we can give the customer a working sink and their washing back up and running.

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  • @mrfpv
    @mrfpv Рік тому +24

    Great video i have been a kitchen fitter for 42 years and have fitted every kitchen from hand built to mass produced and the only kitchen i fitted and would never go near again was an ikea kitchen most manufactures try to keep to a standard method of fitting but ikea like to do it there way which never allowed for our old buildings in the uk so my advice is always get them to fit it and stay well clear

    • @kyam3331
      @kyam3331 Рік тому +2

      Lol i add 3 days for an ikea kitchen

    • @HumansAreShitFactories
      @HumansAreShitFactories Рік тому

      *their

    • @nickwake5484
      @nickwake5484 Рік тому +2

      I had a project with 350+ Ikea kitchens to be fitted into new flats, we had to include additianal dwarf/sacrafical walls to every one just to allow Ikea's preferred fitter to install the dammed things to an already plumb wall and get the services in. Despite this I had to termainte their contract after less than 30. So Ikea's fitters are as bad as their kitchens, even in a space designed for them...

    • @HumansAreShitFactories
      @HumansAreShitFactories Рік тому

      @@nickwake5484 *sacrificial and terminate

    • @nigelsmith1198
      @nigelsmith1198 Рік тому +1

      IKEA kitchens are the worst.!!!! I refuse to fit them.!!

  • @OliverWalker-f6j
    @OliverWalker-f6j Рік тому +12

    Should’ve built the units off the wall 45mm when using 650mm worktop, that overhang looks terrible.

    • @mrabuilders6723
      @mrabuilders6723  Рік тому +1

      Wouldn’t have worked but I suppose unless your there on site having all the discussions and sorting issues you wouldn’t know 👍🏻

    • @Mee10792
      @Mee10792 Рік тому +1

      With 650mm worktops, I set the base units forward, checking that decor panel widths allow. Sometimes door casings etc.. don't allow 650mm worktops, so I slice the worktops down to a better width to avoid a big overhang.
      I have had one customer that wanted the bigger overhang, it was on compact laminate, but the look wasn't my cup of tea.
      At the end of the day, it's up to the client on the look.

    • @mrabuilders6723
      @mrabuilders6723  Рік тому +4

      Your right mate. If the client wants it in their house who are we to challenge that. We can give them the options but it’s their decision 👍🏻

    • @norwood8888
      @norwood8888 8 місяців тому

      @@mrabuilders6723 You said it wouldn’t have worked.. it clearly would have! Now you’re shifting the blame to the client. If true, it was your ‘job’ to persuade them what would look best, this looks bloody awful!

  • @Nodrog269
    @Nodrog269 Рік тому +16

    Been watching you guys from day one, your experience and knowledge shines through. True school is old school, young or experienced builders should be watching this channel without a doubt. Thanks for your time and hard work putting all what you do to help us Newbies or experienced guys do it as it says on the tin. Carry on building.....

  • @munteanvld
    @munteanvld Рік тому +2

    The base units in utility were supposed to have a 50mm void at the back . The sink and that overhang doesn’t look right to me 🧐

  • @donlunn792
    @donlunn792 Рік тому +4

    Wren Kitchens? I wish to God I had never walked into their showroom. The kitchen designer was great,she did a lovely job on the design. But! The first fitter allocated decided he couldn’t start because of personal reasons,this could mean anything! OK, Wren said they had found me another fitter. He came looked around said he would want £5000 for the extra work. I agreed to it the kitchen was a mess. He came, ripped the Kitchen apart,and I found out on the Thursday that he had pulled out!! He was there and could have told me,but no I had a call from Wrens saying they had found me another fitter!!! I knew nothing about this even though he was there on site. OK he had obviously bitten off more than he could chew. He fitted the false ceiling and his Dad did a lovely job on the plastering. Thank God. I then had another fitter who did a half reasonable job. He said he would paint the Kitchen,which I agreed to,and then regretted it. Wrens? Didn’t want to know,they were worse than useless. So! I had to do all of the remedial work myself. At least it now looks good. Thanks to me being able to do the small detail work. Wren Kitchens ? Never in a million years would I recommend them. As for this comment about them.I have said this to them in an email. So if they would like to take this up with me great,I’ll see them in court.

  • @woody8942
    @woody8942 Рік тому +9

    Yet again a great video showing all aspects of fitting a kitchen plus helping me get through my cancer treatments so carry on top marks. Love to all woody

    • @mrabuilders6723
      @mrabuilders6723  Рік тому

      Glad we can help albeit only for entertainment purposes. Thanks for watching 👍🏻

  • @stuartandrews4344
    @stuartandrews4344 Рік тому +7

    I'm a fan of DIY Kitchens, South Kirkby, West Yorkshire, superb products, fitted a few of them over the years,so easy compared to others like Wren, Howdens which gave me much grief, hassle, & Ikea are a nightmare to install.
    Old chippie I worked with, always told me to use metal cabinet legs on larder units & other tall units,they can't bend like the plastic ones.

    • @mrabuilders6723
      @mrabuilders6723  Рік тому +1

      The old chippie isn’t wrong and if metal was still an option for them I wouldn’t hesitate to recommend to customers to have them. 👍🏻

    • @JimmyTheMower
      @JimmyTheMower 10 місяців тому +1

      Just ordered a DIY kitchen after extensive research and a trip to their showroom.
      They seem like great kitchens, fingers crossed I can get it in before Christmas 🎄

  • @paulcocker
    @paulcocker Рік тому +2

    Wren , rubbish kitchens B&Q much much better

  • @davewalker-hf1wg
    @davewalker-hf1wg 5 місяців тому +1

    Wren kitchens I wouldn't trust them breeding wild wren birds honestly

  • @VsUK
    @VsUK Рік тому +7

    I spent £12,000 on a Wren Kitching fit of a newly refurbished house. They had very clear instructions having worked out what we needed, what went where & so on. There wasn't a screw not accounted for in the planning. When the units arrived, we were a little concerned because the van had a different company name. Apparently Wren sub contract work out so they don't actually do it themselves. Well, to put it lightly, it was a bloody shambles. Units installed on a slant. Unit for the built in oven had no rear access to the socket terminal. The built in dryer was also the same & they put the washing machine space in the wrong spot, meaning the pipe & drainage was hidden away behind the units somewhere. Work surface was not level, there was at least a 2mm step up on the joining they tried to hide with some black silicone. Damaged door fixings, scratches to the doors themselves & they had the audacity to drill into the wall & hit a mains wire & the central heating pipe that was clearly marked on the wall to avoid & should have been avoided had they stuck to the designs.
    In the end, it went to an ombudsmen who ruled in our favour . Instructed Wren to fix their mistakes & to compensate us, of which they refused & ended up going to court as they tried to force us to pay up. Judge ruled in our favour & fined Wren on top. The whole thing just ended up being ripped out & we hired a independent family owned ran business to install the same suit we ordered elsewhere & there wasn't so much as a screw out of line.
    We do building contracts for property refurbishments & we decided to try Wren for a change, but never again.

    • @mrabuilders6723
      @mrabuilders6723  Рік тому +1

      Good morning. Thanks for the comment and glad it all went in your favour. I’ve been lucky so far with regards damage but I’m not happy with the quality at all. Enjoy the rest of your weekend 👍🏻

    • @ghunt9146
      @ghunt9146 Рік тому

      Wren. It's the old MFI rebranded. You pays yer money.......

    • @Zeus-kj7nn
      @Zeus-kj7nn Рік тому

      Wren like many other kitchen suppliers really need to be more stringent to who they contract out. As a spread, I've worked for a couple of contractors to skim out in between rip out and installation. I've seen it all! Very good and atrocious. End of the day, if they mess up a project, a no quibble refund etc should be offered immediately. Glad you get there in the end.

    • @nigelsmith1198
      @nigelsmith1198 Рік тому +1

      They obviously were not kitchen fitter’s.!!

    • @marjoriejonas8299
      @marjoriejonas8299 11 місяців тому +1

      Thank you, I’m glad I’m finding out now these issues with Wren before going ahead with my order, which I will now cancel.

  • @breachofthepeace1829
    @breachofthepeace1829 Рік тому +3

    I would have pulled those units forward on the 650 worktop so the overhang at the front would match the rest of the kitchen. Also mid run cut the tall panels inline with the base of the units so the plinth runs through and extend above the top to incorporate the top trims (if having)

  • @neill1200
    @neill1200 Рік тому +6

    Should run your tall and wall panels higher than the cabinets so the cornice butts up , same with pelmet . Cut the bottom of the tall larder decor panels so the plinths can run continuously. The bottom of those tall panels will take a bashing or the years so the continuous plinth run is a better option

    • @kyleaustin3573
      @kyleaustin3573 Рік тому +3

      Unless using traditional cornice of course but I do the same

    • @YoutubeHero666
      @YoutubeHero666 Рік тому +3

      Yeah I always do that. don't see the point of having it go to the floor. also if you have things like robot vacuums/mops they can run straight

    • @mrabuilders6723
      @mrabuilders6723  Рік тому +5

      Everyone has got their own way of doing things but I take mine down to the floor because I like it especially when I have stand alone appliances in the plan but I think not doing it because of a robot vacuum is a 1st world problem 😂😂
      Thanks for the comments everyone we really appreciate your interaction with the channel

    • @dannym670
      @dannym670 Рік тому +2

      ​@@mrabuilders6723 I too take my tall end panels to the floor, I think it looks better, another reason for this is if you have a long run this will sometimes help avoid getting a join in the plinth.
      I personally like to keep the tops of my end panels flush and then return my cornice rather than butt it up, but I do let the wall unit end panels hang down to butt the pelmet into.
      Everyone is different, it's just personal preference really, do what you feel is best.

  • @Lee.Willcox
    @Lee.Willcox Рік тому +3

    I bought a Wren Kitchen. £6000.00 with the same for fitting. I couldn't afford the fitting so I decided to do it myself. It wasn't easy but I am not a professional. It took me 6 months from delivery of all the cupboards already made up and inside them all the fittings. 6 months later I finished installing it all. I also tiled the kitchen floor from wall to wall. I didn't need to do that but I wanted to start with an even footing. I installed the kitchen over the months and 43 years later it is as good as the months I did it. I watched countless videos, I took days off as I thought "What on Earth do I tackle next?". It's in. Everything fitted perfectly, panels worked perfectly, the splash back was somewhat of a nightmare but I did it. I could not be happier. I wonder what the people that buy my house when I am dead will think of it? I took down a perfectly good kitchen that was dated by the dead previous owners that was all pine and put in this contemporary kitchen in. I didn't rush it but over time all the paperwork made sense. I am not a professional, so if I can do it you so can you. Shame professionals charge so much and you are left unhappy. All doors are still working perfectly. The legs are plastic, do don't overload them. I broke a few but I was given spares.

    • @Lee.Willcox
      @Lee.Willcox Рік тому

      I wrote my comments above before I had seen your entire video. Silly me. I did the same. I put things in place the realised the gaps could be filled with the separating panels. At the end of my installation I had some offcuts and bits spare so I made a cupboard to house our Microwave. Would you like to see it ? All of it ? I have some old homemade video while I was doing it. I could make a montage albeit boring, but I am really happy with it.

  • @baldyslapnut.
    @baldyslapnut. Рік тому +5

    For worktops in alcoves, take one of the front corners of a fitted unit as datum since its square and measure front and back dimensions from that datum to each reveal wall (or use two lengths of overlapping wood and deduct whatever wiggle room you work to). Obviously, check the reveal walls for bulges/dips before you just make a straight cut, or scribe on cardboard or scrap ply and transfer to worktop.

  • @spacemanwho
    @spacemanwho Рік тому +4

    Excellent video. Kitchens are a big investment and I appericate the time you have taken to make this video. Thanks 👍

  • @frannyp46
    @frannyp46 Рік тому +2

    Sorry to put a dampener on this video, but my friend was a fitter a wren just before pandemic. When pandemic hit, wren fired most of their fitters and then rehired them on lower wages. It ended up in Private Eye magazine.

  • @anthonychackett9662
    @anthonychackett9662 Рік тому +3

    I'm just completing my first ever kitchen installation. I'm not a trades person and not even a DIY enthusiast but I'm pleased with the outcome. Certainly from my perspective the misconception was that it was ready assembled but what I soon learnt was that this is only the start. Overall it's been very good but there is a LOT of headwork involved, checking and re-checking and a lot of important detail missing into how things are achieved as the leaflets that come with the units are universal. The Wren videos help but are not real world scenarios.

  • @outoftownr3906
    @outoftownr3906 Рік тому +2

    We had a wren kitchen.A friend fitted it.We must of had 20 faults on the doors & worktop.Never get a wren kitchen.Shocking quality control to allow ‘seconds’ type quality delivered to customer.

  • @edthompson9337
    @edthompson9337 Рік тому +6

    Fitted loads of Wren kitchens and always found them to be really good, very detailed plan and easy to follow numbered units so they can be correctly placed as they come in. Much better than the junk from Howdens, their products have really gone done in quality.

    • @mrabuilders6723
      @mrabuilders6723  Рік тому

      I can’t knock the plan, delivery being on time, numbering of the cabinets to the plan and the response from their customer service team but after that Ive fitted and used a lot better quality than this and I bet it’s for at least the same money or cheaper. 👍🏻

    • @edthompson9337
      @edthompson9337 Рік тому +1

      @@mrabuilders6723 Would be interested to know which brands they are, I fitted a Magnet kitchen at my own house, it looks great but was a pig to fit. All the units were 2-3mm over size in the width, gained nearly 30mm in the run of units causing loads of issues as it was a tight squeeze anyway.

    • @mrabuilders6723
      @mrabuilders6723  Рік тому +3

      I have been using a company from Brownhills near Walsall called Chase Bedrooms and kitchens for years now. 18mm carcasses including the backs all glued and pocket screwed together. Any colour carcass you want including wood grain, edges to any colour you want and any style door majority of which are 22mm thick. They can also bespoke a cupboard for an odd size opening and have a door blank made of the same colour to match the door colour and the hardware is all Blum. Never once had an issue with their kitchens or been back to one. 👍🏻

    • @Mike_5
      @Mike_5 Рік тому +1

      Howden employ Clowns

  • @danielwi11iams
    @danielwi11iams Рік тому +3

    hope you didnt drill through that socket cable

    • @mrabuilders6723
      @mrabuilders6723  Рік тому +1

      It’s in a void behind the stud wall but yes I did get that sick feeling as soon as I did it cos I’d forgotten it was a stud wall👍🏻

  • @the_judge_8262
    @the_judge_8262 Рік тому +5

    Good to see this vid. We had a wren kitchen a few years back and were also very surprised by the plan and the detail. We had a few problems with cupboards and what was more impressive was how quickly they sent replacement parts, this was in the middle of lockdown1 when nothing was available, but Wren were ace. Right, gonna watch the rest of this vid now, interested to see what issues you had. 3:44

  • @jefftrendell6421
    @jefftrendell6421 Рік тому +2

    Had a wren kitchen 4 or 5 years ago now and it’s ageing badly…for wren read MFI !

  • @davdclarke4670
    @davdclarke4670 Рік тому +1

    How many kitchens you fitted all the gear no idea

  • @Bob-kb5pv
    @Bob-kb5pv Рік тому +4

    Nice to see the customer choosing a practical sink for the utility room.

  • @MelbourneAlan
    @MelbourneAlan Рік тому +2

    i hope poor adam isnt still digging up his floors. he must be going down for a basement at this stage. .
    it is interesting to see how you get on with these kitchens. they dont have a good reputation for giving all the parts and for mis measuring stuff and it then not fitting properly.

  • @Doug....
    @Doug.... Рік тому +3

    Nice one Richard. Ive fitted a small number of kitchens for me and family over time and there are always some little annoying snags along the way no matter how much time you plan your attack out. Enjoyable though when you look back at the finnished product 😁👍

  • @russellgilbert6493
    @russellgilbert6493 Рік тому +3

    Great vid mate love watching them, may b u could of extended the waste pipe and bought it up inside the caucus so u didn’t have to have big cut out , just a thought 😊keep up the good work 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻

    • @mrabuilders6723
      @mrabuilders6723  Рік тому +2

      Hi Russell that did occur to me but I thought I might as well keep it tight to one side instead of pulling it further into the cupboard and taking up more space. Don’t like the look of it at all but the customer wanted a bigger cupboard. What can ya do 🤷🤷😁👍🏻

  • @911HRW
    @911HRW Рік тому +2

    I had a hell of an experience with Wren, so bad almost all of the kitchen doors and drawer fronts were replaced, I had multiple plans that didn’t match, basically I’d like to throw it all out and start again with someone else.

  • @kendibben3179
    @kendibben3179 Рік тому +2

    Hi bud, are you sure the 650 top should have a large overhang, I would of thought the base units should have been brought forward 50mm, just a thought not a criticism, what ever wren designed 👍

    • @mrabuilders6723
      @mrabuilders6723  Рік тому +1

      It’s something I considered but I spoke to the customer and she liked it as it was.

  • @ivecamperbuild_thomas4084
    @ivecamperbuild_thomas4084 Рік тому +2

    They are crop when you find thing missing that is on the list and they say you’ll have to pay for it again ,I would never use Wren ever again

  • @steve.-007
    @steve.-007 Рік тому +1

    I’ll never touch another wren kitchen! Fitted one about 3years ago,the delivery blokes got the ump cos I told them I wanted the worktops laid flat,said they had never heard of that before! Then if I had followed the diagram the hob would have been 60mm out of line with the extractor! And 2years later the client had to get all the cupboard doors changed because they had all warped!😂😂😂😂,jokers!

  • @morganplatt6762
    @morganplatt6762 Рік тому +3

    About 15 mins into this and the quality of production of the video is absolutely great. Well done.👍

    • @mrabuilders6723
      @mrabuilders6723  Рік тому +1

      Thanks Morgan but I don’t think some of our viewers would agree with you. It seems some people don’t like me explaining what I’m doing they just want to see it done. Oh well we can’t keep everyone happy have a good weekend. 👍🏻

  • @davewalker-hf1wg
    @davewalker-hf1wg 5 місяців тому +1

    Are kid just paid 15 grand on a kitchen from wren fitting is a joke I advise you not to waste your money promise

  • @glennsheppard4240
    @glennsheppard4240 Рік тому +1

    We were very pleased with our Wren kitchen, however after 5 years the door coating started to delaminate, they come with a 20 year warranty , they told us that they would replace all the doors but they didn’t do that colour anymore ( chalk white) we would have to change the colour of the doors plus the plinths, architraves, end panels infill panels etc, plus they didn’t do the curved doors anymore 🤬an awful lot of disruption ending up with a kitchen colour that we didn’t want. Very disappointed with this outcome. In the end we had to take a payout for the unused warranty.
    Be aware that the warranty is limited

  • @user-Mikecat0800
    @user-Mikecat0800 Рік тому +8

    Great informative video.
    We had a Wren kitchen fitted 2 years ago and never realised the issues you can have whilst fitting.
    No complaints over our Wren kitchen, well made and certainly not cheap products and plans including a picture were very helpful to the fitters.

  • @smoll.miniatures
    @smoll.miniatures Рік тому +1

    Sponsored by wren 😂

  • @callumBee
    @callumBee Рік тому +2

    Had so many issues with Wren in the past so when I moved houses again I went to the Range of all places for my next and have been blowen away by the quality. Almost 3 years and still looks like new. Wren one started to look tatty within a year. Found out The Range just resell TKC Kitchens which seem to supply just about every kitchen provider haha! Also they arrive as a hybrid flat pack ie all the fiddly bits are done so its just like a huge jigsaw.

    • @Frankie-c5x
      @Frankie-c5x 5 місяців тому +1

      TKC. They in duddley. Blackheath. I had a chat with them once. They supply everyone. Snd everything. Apart from ikea. Lol

  • @rubikasuto
    @rubikasuto Рік тому +2

    When doing a wren kitchen you need an extra cardboard recycling bin 😅

  • @truth3358
    @truth3358 Рік тому +1

    First 18 minutes talking and not showing the work

  • @tracer1127
    @tracer1127 Рік тому +2

    I agree that the Bosch small planer is an awesome bit of kit. I have a full size Makita plane that’s like brand new in my garage that I haven’t used in years because it’s so cumbersome in comparison. Use the Bosch all the time.

  • @johningham99
    @johningham99 Рік тому +1

    Had a large kitchen fitted by Wren. They said 3 weeks to fit. 37 weeks later 2 letters to the CEO as customer service seemed not to exist. Furniture ombudsman involved as well. Out fitters were good but the supply of parts seemed never to be happening. Would not ever consider using this company again. They are know as When around these parts.!

  • @davecharles7040
    @davecharles7040 Рік тому +1

    Would never use wren again. Took them to court and they settled the day before the case. Plinths labeled and described as 3m were 2.4! Drivers arrived with paperwork but had nothing on van???? Wrong parts, doors, cupboards delivered. Took months to get what we ordered. Nice when finished but shame we had to take action through court.

  • @madhatter61
    @madhatter61 Рік тому +1

    This is why IKEA wall mount base units just do not work it's impossible to get the plumb without battening out most of the time.

  • @darrenwilliams7741
    @darrenwilliams7741 Рік тому +1

    Wren always parts missing and the cupboard carcass are only about 15mm thick 😂 Howdens 25mm

  • @1sostatic
    @1sostatic 8 місяців тому +1

    Hats off ... I dunno how you do it... I hated building my kitchen... in the end I dropped tools and called peeps in who dont mind gunking themselves up with tile adhesives, paint, sealant...etc.. arrgh I sooooooo hate it.

  • @therealdojj
    @therealdojj Рік тому +2

    our old kitchen had a wall put in the middle, the side walls were parallel but the outside wall was way out of square by 5mm on the counter top so it's good to measure top middle and bottom

  • @Prhbuild
    @Prhbuild Рік тому +1

    Fitted a few Wrens kitchens .Basic units are pretty good .Fitted wickes ,RUBBISH

  • @jeremycanning8934
    @jeremycanning8934 Рік тому +1

    Installed a customer supplied Wren kitchen. Biggest pile of crap ever

  • @m0nk3yl0v3r
    @m0nk3yl0v3r Рік тому +2

    We got a Wren kitchen... plan was ok, builders we great... but we had to reorder 16 doors... twice.

    • @mrabuilders6723
      @mrabuilders6723  Рік тому

      New doors oh dear I hope our customer doesn’t suffer that even though after only 4 weeks fitted one of the hinges on a door is bosted. It’s not looking good 🙄

  • @gordyminiman
    @gordyminiman Рік тому +2

    Love the series and have been watching for ages!! With regard to the washing machine and dryer,where are they going to plug them in> We(my wife and me) couldnt see any plugs under the units and wondered where they would plug in? When we did our kitchen,we had the electrician put the switches up on the wall but the plugs went down below the worktop on the back wall to keep it tidy!!! We put our own kitchen in our bungalow ourselves,not a bad job but we took a lot of time planning the usits to make sure we could get them in without any issues so we can sympathise with you!!!! To be fair we didnt use Wren but B+Q units!!! I know they have not the best reputation but the ones we had were to be fair,good and apart from recieveing 2 extra doors we didnt order we didnt have any issues!!!!!!

    • @mrabuilders6723
      @mrabuilders6723  Рік тому +1

      Hi Mr and Mrs Gordon. There was a cable on the floor for the dryer which was fed into the cupboard next to it where the dryer will plug in. However the sparky forgot the washer one but luckily for us that wall was a stud wall so he just took the face plate off the plug above the worktop level and fed it down into the cupboard below. All sorted now and up and running for the customer. Thanks for watching. 👍🏻

  • @zxxvcc
    @zxxvcc 20 днів тому

    Cool workbench ("torsion box"?) - reminds me of a design by some American guy on UA-cam whose name I forgot.

  • @tonymcfeisty2478
    @tonymcfeisty2478 Рік тому +1

    I was about to comment on why would you use a full depth panel between the tall 800 and the wall in the utility, how using a shallower depth would allow you t close the gap at the front when you discovered the use of a 130mm wide on the plan, I expect for this very reason

  • @unclecoco2082
    @unclecoco2082 Рік тому +1

    A friend of mine got a wren kitchen a few years ago, it was an absolute nightmare and they ended up threatening them with court action, they even delivered half of someone else’s kitchen which was put in their garage and then they didn’t come back for it, a total shit show

  • @rossmale8715
    @rossmale8715 Рік тому +2

    Ive fitted stacks of wren and theyve gone down hill massively. They used to use all blum hardware and now they dont, titus hinges and terrible cheap draw packs. Ive had the laminate peel off doors and off end panels, stacks of missing and damaged items. Refuse to fit them anymore, terrible.

    • @mrabuilders6723
      @mrabuilders6723  Рік тому

      It’s my first and last Ross that’s for sure. 👍🏻

    • @rossmale8715
      @rossmale8715 Рік тому

      @@mrabuilders6723 where are you based, I'm from walsall, you sound very local! Lol

  • @conz078
    @conz078 10 місяців тому

    Hello all, currently fitting the Milano Infiante, the plans show an 18mm standoff from the wall but none of the installation guides show how that standoff is achived, anyone got any experiance with this? I can only find batons provided for what looks like the unit fixing together however they're 22mm not 18mm - It's a Sunday so their helpline is closed. Help!

  • @everestyeti
    @everestyeti Рік тому +2

    I put one of these kitchens in 12 years ago, still looks as good as the day I put it in. I know this because it's mine! 😎

    • @mrabuilders6723
      @mrabuilders6723  Рік тому +1

      The quality of nearly everything we use has gone down in some capacity 🤷Wren seem to have all the structure to be a good company but the build quality and materials they use still needs some work. 👍🏻

  • @shaunian100
    @shaunian100 4 місяці тому

    On a 650 top the base units can be 620 deep or the 570s can set off the wall by by 50mm as an 80mm over hang looks stupid,

  • @michaeldifelice3775
    @michaeldifelice3775 5 місяців тому

    Wren have been an absolute nightmare for us. Those adjustable packets are not unique to wren. You get the from Toolstation I think.

  • @godwor848
    @godwor848 6 місяців тому

    On the right side, where the tall cabinet is, you have a door and architrave! I would not move this cabinet so close to the wall because of its right-hinged door .It might be better to spread the distance equally on both sides ...

  • @Mike_5
    @Mike_5 Рік тому +1

    Wren build them in a factory them deliver them carefully and then you are on your own!

  • @darrenmaxwell3108
    @darrenmaxwell3108 9 місяців тому

    As a chippi mate I don’t agree with your installation of the base unit butting it to the wall with the end panel…. There shouldn’t be any gaps down the side regardless if the walls kick in or out there should be compass scribed fillers down the side if that means re jigging the drawing so be it.

  • @m0aze611
    @m0aze611 Рік тому +1

    Great vid that i've watched intensely, I can't comment on Wren quality but from what I've seen in friends homes they look okay. You have hit a major issue however due to a lack of communication between the client and supplier (it happens). I feel for you guys and your customer - BUT no doubt you and Brad (Mick) will overcome because that's what you do. Regards Mike

  • @paulgilliland2992
    @paulgilliland2992 Рік тому +1

    It’s very common in the USA to install upper shells before the base so you’re not fighting the lower boxes . Cabinets are tricky.

  • @jameswebbe
    @jameswebbe Рік тому +2

    Really enjoy watching you all take great pride in your workmanship. I work in a industry where they want productivity over quality

    • @mrabuilders6723
      @mrabuilders6723  Рік тому +2

      Thanks James that’s one of the reasons that I couldn’t work on a building site 👍🏻

  • @riptiz
    @riptiz Рік тому +5

    The orange blocks are called Spaceplugs. Andy thr Gosforth handyman uses them.

  • @stuartbromley3513
    @stuartbromley3513 6 місяців тому

    Why the fk did you make such a large hole for the sink waste pipe? In the side of the cabinet?

  • @garys628
    @garys628 Рік тому +1

    thanks for you and the team brilliant videos. I think reading between lines your thoughts on wren kitchens are coming through. you're not looking too happy. we nearly signed up for one a couple of weeks ago for our renovation. glad we never. our builder said he wouldn't be fitting it 😩😩 .....bad experiences. cheers Richie

  • @terryrobbins4224
    @terryrobbins4224 4 місяці тому

    Regarding end panels good trick is rip them down as you only will see the the panel jutting out

  • @Gangstersdailydose
    @Gangstersdailydose 6 місяців тому

    Every job you do has errors or issues.. maybe the issue isnt with the products or locations? 😂😂😂😂

  • @harrysmith846
    @harrysmith846 Рік тому +1

    You would feel confident in that man’s work. He’s worth paying extra for. 🎉

  • @ped0000
    @ped0000 Рік тому +1

    It doesnt matter how good the plans are if the person creating or proof measuring them doesnt notice the issues. You pay alot for a wren kitchen. That sink unit should have and should still be a 600 with filler panels on either end of the run. Tell them and change it. Especially if your going to put it on social media telling people how to fit a kitchen. You drilled the handle on the wall unit wrong or hinged on wrong side. Looks silly. Interested to see how you rectify the height issues in the main kitchen. Hope that doent get butchered.

    • @mrabuilders6723
      @mrabuilders6723  Рік тому

      I think you’ll find from the start of this series and in all our previous videos on the channel we are not telling people how to do anything we just show how we do it. Your opinion is noted but the customer has the last say on how they want their own kitchen to look and doesn’t matter what the fitter tells them. We can only advise what would and should be done. Regards a handle?? Not sure what your going on about there. Thanks for commenting on the channel look forward to hearing from you again on another video if your still watching. 👍🏻

  • @liveitloveitlife
    @liveitloveitlife Рік тому +1

    WREN are renowned for kitchen issues.
    Their sales process is faultless tbh, we have a Wren kitchen by they way.
    Their cockups are however, are rife. Incorrect items, damaged items, etc etc.
    We nearly had every type of door replaced in the kitchen, a fridge replaced and other items. They must make a fortune on kitchens as they had no problem sending out the replacements and there were tons of them. The fridge was dented and the light wasnt working, they said skip it without hesitation. They didnt question the replacement cabinet doors or worktop, we sent photos anyway. I reckon we had nearly 2k of replacements.
    We asked for a drawer in a cupboard, they sent the wrong sized panels. We advised, they sent out a replacement, again wrong size. I gave up in the end and said refund the cost of the drawer as its clear you cant even pick with right size of your shelves. They refunded us.
    After the palava, we then complained about the service and was given some money back as an apology.
    I do have to say though, we are pleased with the kitchen and the quality, but they clearly are totally useless with everything else, picking items, they must throw items from the ground up onto the shelving or drop kick them around.
    I would assume their profit margin on a kitchen must be 60-70% of the total price, it must be, they sent us that many items, without question, that I could have made another kitchen.

    • @mrabuilders6723
      @mrabuilders6723  Рік тому

      Hi. I certainly can’t fault their customer service but then if they have that many issues all the time I’m not surprised they are so good at it.
      Practice makes perfect 😁👍🏻

  • @dukbud6065
    @dukbud6065 Рік тому +1

    Only every fitted wren twice, had nothing but issues with half kitchen being delivered to wrong carcass delivered and 6week wait for correct one. Would never fit one again or order one myself.

    • @mrabuilders6723
      @mrabuilders6723  Рік тому

      I’m with you on that one. Fitted once and never again. Enjoy your weekend 👍🏻

  • @FPL-LARD
    @FPL-LARD Рік тому +1

    LOL Wren and Plan in the same sentence, I ended up changing so many things, I wouldn't use them but my sister bought it and obviously shouted to her brother to fit it. OMG I thought they were ok until I actually fitted one. There are many better at a better price. And as for assuming they measured top middle and bottom lol lol lol. When you assume you make an ASS out of U and ME

    • @mrabuilders6723
      @mrabuilders6723  Рік тому

      Hi Steve. As you say I cleared presumed too much. I naively believe that if your gonna put your hand out to be paid for doing your job it should be done properly. How wrong was I. 👍🏻

  • @Carl-hl8cr
    @Carl-hl8cr 19 днів тому

    Only reason for a wren kitchen is the 5 year interest, there kitchens are terrible

  • @brooksy1217
    @brooksy1217 5 місяців тому +1

    Love your enthusiasm and professionalism! 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼

  • @memyself7413
    @memyself7413 Рік тому +1

    For me, there's far too much time wasted with all the explanations.
    Anyone experienced enough to do a kitchen install, doesn't need to hear it.
    Anyone without experience, will probably fall victim to the challenges, with or without
    the explanations.

    • @mrabuilders6723
      @mrabuilders6723  Рік тому +1

      It seems every so often we have a viewer that doesn’t like what we do or how we do it. We have tried to adapt to our audience as best we can but it seems we are fighting a loosing battle. We are more than happy to accept suggestions or constructive criticism but I’m afraid If we are not making the type of content you wish to view them then we apologise but there’s only one option for you. Thanks for watching Have a good evening 👍🏻

  • @Gangstersdailydose
    @Gangstersdailydose 6 місяців тому

    Crazy overhang on the front of the sink.. bad error.. better luck next time

  • @allthingsgjd
    @allthingsgjd Рік тому +1

    Hi Boy's, great content as usual. Watching this, you keep referring to work you have done, sorry coming to this after the work is complete, I am having trouble trying to figure out which videos proceed the kitchen fit, is this video the first in the series - "Single Storey Extension Stage One. Digging out, Finding Out and Falling In!"
    I suspect it is, but I am not sure, I love watching these in the correct order, so I will go back to this. I am watching this as I only came to your channel a few months ago - via the Garden room series.
    At present I am watching your "biggest job you have ever done" videos, but I am watching those live, so I am having to wait for each weekly video to drop.
    The single storey could be the prefect series to keep me going between weekly videos. 😁

    • @mrabuilders6723
      @mrabuilders6723  Рік тому

      Hi ya mate and thank you for joining our channel we really appreciate it. If you click on the link below it will take you to the first episode in the loft conversion series which is the job we did first at this house which may then help you when we start referring back to it during the single storey extension series. Happy viewing and thank you for giving our channel your time.
      ua-cam.com/video/MNIu-7gsDCc/v-deo.html

  • @denty32
    @denty32 Рік тому +1

    Great video, I fitted a wren kitchen last year and I must say it was fantastic. Maybe I got lucky

  • @fireblaster9961
    @fireblaster9961 Рік тому

    How many people do you know, that wear a dust mask as well as a dust extractor on their track saw

  • @bluegalaxyvr3442
    @bluegalaxyvr3442 Рік тому +1

    put your taps and waste on sink before fitting to bench instead of struggling inside of cuboard do the job in 10 minutes instead of struggling for2 hours as you making yourself look like a amateur

    • @mrabuilders6723
      @mrabuilders6723  Рік тому

      Can’t disagree with you and I said I’d get comments about it but I did say why I did it in the video. You make yourself look like you don’t listen 😂👍🏻

  • @Tso007
    @Tso007 6 місяців тому +1

    yo aint frum Dudlay ay ya ✊🏻😎

  • @davidroth7586
    @davidroth7586 Рік тому +2

    Well done with a terrible product mate. I sed last week good look withe the ren kitchen as we have stopped fitting them. Was nice to see you sealing the edges of the sink cut out. Your doing a good job mate, especially on your first ren kitchen . Did you have a hard time with clipping the new hinges on and off, also they supply you with a box to stand your doors in that they say is free but really charge the customer £55 for🤯🤮🤯🤮

    • @mrabuilders6723
      @mrabuilders6723  Рік тому +1

      I’m not gonna spoil it by telling you my thoughts and the outcomes of this kitchen but it’s not all positive 😁👍🏻

    • @davidroth7586
      @davidroth7586 Рік тому +1

      I can already imagine mate. In my experience there never seems to be a positive outcome with ren. On another note there very good at reimbursement to your client if you find the need to change them extra for wanting time and revisits for issue's that are there.😉😉😉

    • @juliebrooke6099
      @juliebrooke6099 9 місяців тому

      On my itemised bill the door holder box thing was marked as £0:00 so I don’t know where the £55 comes in.

  • @andrewhaines3259
    @andrewhaines3259 Рік тому +1

    Oops! Someone made a bit of a boob with that socket in the utility room, half covered by the 800mm tall unit.

    • @mrabuilders6723
      @mrabuilders6723  Рік тому

      Yes they did unfortunately. The original design was a 600mm tall unit not an 800mm but no one thought to tell us that it changed so we 1st fixed for a 600mm. Oh well just something else to sort out 🤷👍🏻

  • @aaronhounsome8954
    @aaronhounsome8954 Рік тому +1

    You boys are Gr8.. Really Gr8 tips as guys thank you.

  • @Martin37vg
    @Martin37vg Рік тому +1

    Good design/ fitting will never have and cabinet hard up against a wall . Always a thin facial scribed against wall as they are never perfect. Plus allows the door to open 90 degree without handle hitting wall ..

    • @mrabuilders6723
      @mrabuilders6723  Рік тому

      Can’t disagree with that. This is what happens when a designer doesn’t understand the practicalities of fitting and how the finished product is meant to look. 🤷🤷

  • @calvertphoto
    @calvertphoto 6 місяців тому +1

    We've just had a Wren kitchen fitted. Our builders who fitted it said they were very impressed with all the info Wren provided, and the quality of the product was very good.

  • @artjacob5359
    @artjacob5359 Рік тому +1

    Nice job on the kitchen fitting but I don't understand why they've left big holiodays in the paintwork, even if it is behind cabinets, also they could come to regret not tiling under the cabinets the first time the washing machine floods or they get a leak in the pipework and have to rip out the cupboards to fix the subfloor.

    • @mrabuilders6723
      @mrabuilders6723  Рік тому +1

      Customers did paint work themselves and with the price of everything why would you waste your money when you can’t see it so I understand their decision on that.
      The washer and dryer will be pulled out and the flooring will be put under them when they decide to have it done. The floor is concrete so water wouldn’t have an impact on it so all good mate 👍🏻

  • @pulsarbrooke
    @pulsarbrooke Рік тому +1

    I think you have explained the kitchen install very well. Great video 😊

  • @barryford7135
    @barryford7135 Рік тому +1

    DIY kitchens for me lads. 👍

  • @KEIRAN1996
    @KEIRAN1996 Рік тому +1

    Where has adams series gone? Crazy to think I discovered your channel from the drainage video of this extension and now I've watched every video on the channel🤷‍♂️

    • @mrabuilders6723
      @mrabuilders6723  Рік тому

      Nice one Kieran hope we’ve entertained you for a couple of weeks. Thanks for watching mate. Adam is on his way back mate just had other prioritise 👍🏻

  • @tb5269
    @tb5269 Рік тому +1

    How will the customer finish the floor if the decorative end panels are on already? I had to leave mine off until I had tiled the floor and slide in after. Have I missed a pro tip anywhere?

    • @mrabuilders6723
      @mrabuilders6723  Рік тому

      Hi. There is no pro tip here for this one. The ideal scenario would of course do the floor first but if the customer chooses to do there own floor coverings but if they have no intention of doing it to fit in with the fitting of the their kitchen then unfortunately the only option is to fit it as you would a retro floor covering which is to remove end panels where possible ( end of a run of base units for example ) and cut down on site or cut bottom off with a multi tool or floor saw. However, I believe they are having a Karndean flooring so it will only be a couple of mm and I’ve set the panels about 3-5mm off the floor on a packer already as well as setting the plinths with a 10mm gap so there won’t be any trimming of those after either so it should all be fine 🤞🏻👍🏻

  • @andymarriott8150
    @andymarriott8150 Рік тому +1

    I've just subscribed today and I like how you work so I'll will be spending some of this bank holiday binge watching your other videos

  • @Pistol_Knight
    @Pistol_Knight Рік тому +1

    My only problem (working on my own) with Wren kitchens is they come fully assembled ie: the doors are on them! the corner units and Larder units are too heavy to move about so you have to take the doors off and store them somewhere where they wont get damaged which is a pain in the butt most other companies supply the doors separately in the own protection and can be packed out of the way until last thing.

    • @mrabuilders6723
      @mrabuilders6723  Рік тому +1

      The worst one for me was one your haven’t seen yet in the main kitchen build. Tall unit with a big pull out in it. How I didn’t snap the legs off it I’ll never know. 😁👍🏻

  • @calvinbates2786
    @calvinbates2786 Рік тому +1

    Great video as always Rich 👍
    Could I ask where you got that work beach top from cheers

  • @thomascallaghan5988
    @thomascallaghan5988 Рік тому +1

    I think howdens kitchens are far superior especially the customer service side of things

    • @timsmith1292
      @timsmith1292 Рік тому

      😂 your dreaming
      Fitter of 33 years

  • @Dankeenan35
    @Dankeenan35 Рік тому +1

    You on day rate ? Or on price.
    How do you get any work done making so many videos 😅

    • @mrabuilders6723
      @mrabuilders6723  Рік тому

      On a price so we take the hit for the extra time just to try and entertain you guys and girls. Your welcome 😂👍🏻

  • @Richard-gk3kq
    @Richard-gk3kq Рік тому +1

    Hi, was just wondering where the power supply for the washing machine came from.

    • @mrabuilders6723
      @mrabuilders6723  Рік тому

      It will go in the cupboard next to it for access to the plug 👍🏻

  • @Frankie-c5x
    @Frankie-c5x 5 місяців тому

    Good job. Good videos. Clear and understandable. Its hard relating your thoughts on what your doing. Especially when if ur like me, your on autopilot most of the time. Like most tradesmen. Second nature. Good vibes, serious work. I nearly subbed to wren, but something else came up. Spoke to their recruitment lady. (Had Avoided her calls for weeks.). Was working on ikea kitchens. Remedials! Unfinished. Half finished? Half arsed! Lol. Out of town for weeks. Any how. She and i were on rhe same wavelentgh. An she was leaving wren kitchens cus she said they were as bad/ the same as previous companies. Avanti for one. Like ikea etc etc they just farm it out. And they are so busy. They sometimes get bad fitters. Weve all had nightmare jobs. Where stuffs missing or the wrong size. Can be stressfull. At the time i was trying to sell the idea to ikea that they should train their own people. An kit them out. Ah well. The joys of kitchen fitting. 😖